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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live on this Thursday afternoon. We are

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Speaker 1: a week away from training camp. We're here at One

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Speaker 1: Bills Drive today at the right next door to newer Afield,

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Speaker 1: home of the Buffalo Bills. And welcome up to the show.

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Speaker 1: Here until three o'clock. Steve Tasker out a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and we have a special guest in with us today

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Journal Journal Sentinel Sentinel football reporter Tyler Dunn joins

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Speaker 1: us here. Hi, Tyler, Thanks coming in man, Murph. It's

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Speaker 1: great to be here with you today. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: it was great, good time. We missed you, but h

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Speaker 1: news on the Bills and the rest of the afcast teams.

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Speaker 1: Also on the show today. Coming up a little bit

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Speaker 1: the owner, Terry Pagoula's kids went to school with them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the owner has been watching Devin Singletary since

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Speaker 1: he was in eighth grade, ninth grade and knows what

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Speaker 1: he can bring. He knows the person, and I think

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Speaker 1: the stars might have kind of aligned for need for

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Speaker 1: the scouts liking him for him being somebody who's special.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing. The Doug Sosha his name, has said

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Speaker 1: that this is somebody who is special. The scheme and

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Speaker 1: his words will get you three yards, He's gonna get

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Speaker 1: you more than that. He makes guys miss the first

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Speaker 1: halfer can never bring him down. He thinks he has

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Speaker 1: these special characteristics that make him somebody that isn't just

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Speaker 1: a plug and play guy. So I you know, I

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Speaker 1: guess what I'm getting too here, Murph, is you know

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Speaker 1: this offseason they bring in John Brown, Cole Beazy, they

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Speaker 1: brought in some guys, But who really scares you on

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Speaker 1: this offense? I think could be to play Devil's advocate

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Speaker 1: with this Bill's offense, where do they really get better?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's this guy. Maybe it's Steven Singletary that scares you.

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Speaker 1: Could you envision the Bills going into September eighth opening

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Speaker 1: day with Singletary, McCoy gore and yelled in on the roster.

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Speaker 1: I cannot, right, you can't figure that's gonna happen those

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Speaker 1: four plus maybe a fullback too. I can't. I can't,

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm a prolog Shawn McCoy, guy,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of folks watching him last year.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't his fault. I think he is allowed to offer.

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Speaker 1: Still absolutely agree. I mean, with a better offensive line,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be holes there that just weren't there last year.

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Speaker 1: But this doesn't make sense, right, I mean, if Gore

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Speaker 1: and yelled in, are you expect these are players who

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Speaker 1: designing the Obviously they're gonna be there. Sean McCoy would

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Speaker 1: seem to be an odd man out if a market

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Speaker 1: is their for him, which probably wasn't there during the

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Speaker 1: NFL draft, right or off this offseason, you would think

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Speaker 1: whole off season. I think you see if you agree

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Speaker 1: with this, I do think the Bill's personnel department, Brandon

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Speaker 1: being primarily, are pretty good at assessing the timing of

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Speaker 1: a trade like this, Right. They've made some big deals

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Speaker 1: and they made some big moves obviously in the couple

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Speaker 1: of years they've been here. They probably have a price

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Speaker 1: in mind for whether it's well, most likely McCoy and

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Speaker 1: I're gonna wait and see if that comes up here

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Speaker 1: in the next month or two. Right when you think absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean that you probably just hit the nail on

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Speaker 1: the head. I mean, look at two years ago when

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Speaker 1: they dealt Ronald Darby, dealt Sammy Watkins. That wasn't a

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Speaker 1: matter of what a few hours? Yeah, I remember. I

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Speaker 1: mean it happened really fast, and it happened middle of

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Speaker 1: training middle of training camp. When a market developed, needs developed,

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Speaker 1: you find you know a team that's will to part

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Speaker 1: with some assets. I don't know what Lashawn McCoy is

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Speaker 1: gonna be worth, but hey, if you get a mid

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Speaker 1: round pick for somebody you know at that point of

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Speaker 1: his career, at thirty one thirty two, I think you

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Speaker 1: got to pull the trigger. If you're Buffalo, we'll see

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interesting camp, and for Bleacher Report,

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Speaker 1: you'll make visits to a couple of training camps around

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Speaker 1: the league. Right, what do you have in mind where

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Speaker 1: you're going. We'll definitely hope to get out to Saint

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Speaker 1: John Fisher at some point. I want to kind of

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Speaker 1: take a look at the Bills. But yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be heading down to Cleveland out of the shoote as

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of folks are, and the Browns

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Speaker 1: are contenders. You're gonna be elbowing other reporters out of

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Speaker 1: the way, right right, right, It's it's gonna be something

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Speaker 1: else there, But yeah, probably Cleveland, Pittsburgh and work in

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Speaker 1: you know, another team out west at some point. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. I wouldn't they read just this morning? It

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Speaker 1: might be Adam Rank wrote this or no, it was

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Speaker 1: your group at bleacher Report. You picked the division winners,

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Speaker 1: you and a couple of other reporters from bleacher Report,

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Speaker 1: and he had Cleveland also the division where Baltimore was

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Speaker 1: a division winner in playoffs. It's your Pittsburgh is a

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Speaker 1: perennial contender. Bleacher Report buis into the Browns hype. Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're telling me? I did build the line

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Speaker 1: and sinker Man guiltiest charge. I just think the talents

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Speaker 1: there like Odell Beckham, Junior, Jarvis Landry and Tonio Callaway,

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, cream Hunt. At some point, you just have

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Speaker 1: talent all over on offense. And look, if you're bad

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Speaker 1: for as long as the Browns have been bad, you

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Speaker 1: get a lot of high picks, a lot of picks

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Speaker 1: in general. You know, back to Sashi Brown and the

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Speaker 1: whole analytics thing that you know, he's not there anymore,

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Speaker 1: but they've got a lot of assets from all those

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Speaker 1: bad years and all those picks. And I think that

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Speaker 1: really helped the defense, and the defense now is ready

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Speaker 1: to take that next step. First year, first time head

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Speaker 1: coach doesn't matter for the Browns. You think, well, you

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Speaker 1: know he was around last year. I think that they did.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of creative things that that Brian

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Speaker 1: day Ball and Josh Allen are probably trying to do

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Speaker 1: right here in Buffalo. Was the play where Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: just kind of like threw it up to himself. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just just things you don't you don't see around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think that there is probably a little continuity. Do

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Speaker 1: you trust all those um personalities egos to get through

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Speaker 1: a season and uh, you know what I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know him exactly. It means something, it does. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because you've got some huge egos there. There's a reason

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Speaker 1: that Baker Mayfield had the quote unquote red flags coming

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Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma, from the arrest to grabbing you know

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Speaker 1: what you know against Kansas, all of that stuff. I

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Speaker 1: think it could be an issue, but I think what

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Speaker 1: helps the Browns here is Odell Beckham Junior. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, this could be the coldest of takes

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Speaker 1: when we listen back to a year from now, but

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Speaker 1: save at LSU. You know, he had Jarvis Landry there

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Speaker 1: with him, and Jarvis Landry for everybody that saw Hard Knocks,

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Speaker 1: is somebody who embraces that alpha role. He wants to

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Speaker 1: be the loudest voice in the room. He wants to

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Speaker 1: be the guy cussing and swearing in those meetings and

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Speaker 1: taking charge. And that isn't who Odell Beckham is. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you talk to people there at LSU and in

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Speaker 1: New York with the Giants, especially when he got that contract,

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Speaker 1: he was kind of thrown into that role. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he wants that role. I think he prefers to

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Speaker 1: kind of be the robin to Jarvis Landry's batman. And

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Speaker 1: maybe in Cleveland that's the perfect situation for him. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: It could absolutely blow up, but you know, give me

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and all that talent right now. We'll go through

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Speaker 1: that too. You and you're reporting colleagues at Bleacher Report

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Speaker 1: picking division winners for each division, no doubt who they

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Speaker 1: picked in the AFC East. We'll talk about that a

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Speaker 1: little bit as well. Tyler Dunn is with us here today.

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Speaker 1: Until three. We got a pretty good Twitter poll. We

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Speaker 1: wanted to let you know what that's all about. It's simple.

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Speaker 1: It's defense of Bill's second overall in defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Next year or last year? Can they get better? Of

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Speaker 1: course they can, right We've had players sit on the

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Speaker 1: set right here and tell us how they intend on

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Speaker 1: getting better. We want your opinion on this. What will

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Speaker 1: be the Bill's best step forward on defense in twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 1: What can they do that would be the biggest improvement

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Speaker 1: they could make over last year? They were pretty good

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Speaker 1: last year defensively. We know that they had some flaws.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? You can vote either on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at one Bill's Live. We may read your tweets on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. You can give us a call. We

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Speaker 1: got full nines wide open the eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. What will be the Bill's best step

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Speaker 1: forward on defense in twenty nineteen? The Twitter poll is

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Speaker 1: up and running the last twenty five minutes or so,

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Speaker 1: and on the Twitter poll, forty three percent of you

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Speaker 1: say more sacks is the best step forward they can

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Speaker 1: make more pressure, twenty eight percent say creating more takeaways

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Speaker 1: will be the best step forward they could make. Twenty

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Speaker 1: four percent say better red zone defense. Micah Hyde and

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Speaker 1: others on the Bills defense have told us that's their

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Speaker 1: focus going into this season, be better in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: Four percent have something else in mine. Let us know

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Speaker 1: forward they could take in twenty nineteen looking back at

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Speaker 1: the offseason. Get a chance to do that this weekend.

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drives. Team catcher out. Tyler Dunn is

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Speaker 1: in from Bleacher Report. You know him from his work

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Speaker 1: on the Buffalo News. He spent some time at Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Journal Sentinel. Can I ask one more question about your career?

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Speaker 1: I know we were just laughing about everybody's Tyler out right.

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Speaker 1: I have a question the move from a beat reporter

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Speaker 1: people have said that's crazy, but not anymore right. Tell

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Speaker 1: me why that, how that works professionally, and you don't

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Speaker 1: have to get into you know, whatever you wanted, whatever

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Speaker 1: might look at that and say, how can you go

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Speaker 1: everybody's on social media, you know, for better or worse, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, online,

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Speaker 1: and it's just no secret that circulations for all newspapers

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Speaker 1: everywhere are declining. So I think Bleach Reports just ahead

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Speaker 1: of the game in terms of knowing how to reach people.

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Speaker 1: And if I write a story. Yeah, it's on our website,

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Speaker 1: but it's also you know, on the app, it's on

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Speaker 1: you know, it's blasted on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all of that.

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Speaker 1: So it just kind of goes to where everybody is.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't adapt, you die. And so I

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Speaker 1: of newspapers have adapted really well. I mean, obviously the

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Speaker 1: Athletic is is huge as well. I think everybody's pulling

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Speaker 1: that model. Different places are adapting different ways from your

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Speaker 1: your perspective, going from covering one team all the time

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Speaker 1: to cover in thirty two teams, almost picking your spots,

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Speaker 1: who do who do you want to write about today?

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Speaker 1: What player you want to be with? UM, that's got

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Speaker 1: to be an attractive feature of your current job, right, Oh, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean then that was a shock to the system

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Speaker 1: to go from you know, that day to day turnaround,

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Speaker 1: you know, multiple blog post, stories, podcasts, video you know

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Speaker 1: that that being I'm gonna tell you, I mean it

640
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: really is a day to day grind to taking a

641
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: step back and maybe spending several weeks on a story.

642
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers story that we did earlier this

643
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: off season was probably like four or five months in

644
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: the works really, so that it's definitely a change. I'm

645
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: definitely a change. I like, I really do like sinking

646
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: my teeth and do the longer stories and having that time.

647
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: We did not get into the Packers story, which was

648
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: huge this offseason because I was told you talked about

649
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: that a lot a couple of weeks ago when I

650
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: was not here. Right, Yes, yes, we got into it

651
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: with it with Steve's Yeah, but what a big story

652
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: and it's weird and I'm thinking back to the elements

653
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: of that story about the relationship between Mike McCarthy and

654
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, and I have to say it didn't

655
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: surprise me. You can see two strong willed even from

656
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Afar from a distance from an NFL fan like myself,

657
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: watching the Packers, you could see two strong, willed, you know,

658
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: purposeful individuals and wonder, I wonder if they're on the

659
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: same page. And as you pointed out in that story,

660
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: they weren't all the time, right right, I mean we

661
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: see it right. The camera catches Aaron Rodgers staying stupid,

662
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: bleep and call, and it catches these things and then

663
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: you can only imagine what's going on behind the scenes.

664
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: So to talk to people about that was it was interesting.

665
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's part of what makes Aaron Rodgers special.

666
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: It makes them great. It's a grudge who everybody talks

667
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: about the chip on the shoulder. You're never gonna hear

668
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: an athlete say I don't really have a chip on

669
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: my shoulder, but he really does have it. It started

670
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: at a young age and college is looking past him

671
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: going to beute, being the twenty fourth pick in the draft,

672
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: and you better believe that he held a grudge against

673
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: his own head coach because he was a part of

674
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers, because they took Alex Smith.

675
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, even after the story came out, I was

676
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: talking to, you know, players that weren't a part of

677
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: the story and offered a little bit more detail on it.

678
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: So it was interesting. I think I think that, look,

679
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: they won a lot of games together, they won a

680
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Years from now, that's what people will remember.

681
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: But there is also this colossal what if And there

682
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: are players, coaches, scouts, people that were part of those

683
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: teams that think they could have been the New England Patriots.

684
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: They could have won five six rings and they're ticked

685
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: about it, and it all comes back to those Eagles,

686
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: namely at the quarterback and the head coach. We had

687
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: a question yesterday Steve and I on our We're in

688
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: the Packers here a little bit a question in our

689
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: What's for Lunch segment, and it was something long lines

690
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers will be better off with Lafleur than

691
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: he was with with McCarthy, and I answered that, no,

692
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's the case, just because of

693
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Speaker 1: the unknown about Matt Lafleur. I know he's accomplished, you know,

694
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Speaker 1: assistant coach, but I think Rogers is a handful as

695
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: you point out pretty accurately in your thing, right, didn't

696
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: he He's had a lot of latitude to do whatever

697
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: he wants the line of scrimmage. And he was able

698
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: to do it with the Jordy Nelsons and the Randall

699
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: Cobbs and the Greg Jennings and the guys who see

700
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: the same thing that he does out there, and he

701
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: could just call his own shots, you know, change his

702
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: plays as he saw fit. It's not gonna be the

703
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: case with Matt Laflour. He comes from that Sean McVay,

704
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, coaching tree. If Sean mcvayh has a coaching

705
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: tree already of you know what these plays, there's a

706
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: lot that goes into him. Plays are gonna set up

707
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: other plays, run it, stick with the plan and just

708
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: kind of see how it goes from there. I mean,

709
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Jared Goff is an extension of his coach, Jimmy Garoppolo,

710
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: and San Francisco is going to be an extension of

711
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. These these quote unquote mastermind coaches that the

712
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Packers made the decision to go that route. With Matt Lafloor,

713
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to run the ball more or he's

714
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: gonna want to be in charge and call the plays.

715
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: I know they're talking about finding a balance. Maybe they

716
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: do find a balance, but it's not going to be

717
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: easy for Aaron Rodgers to make that adjustment. Diff go

718
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: buy in right for Rogers, I would think so. I mean,

719
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: he's had this freedom his whole career. Two more I

720
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: have two more Packers questions for you, my opinion, and

721
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: you can tell me if I'm off base here, is

722
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: that the Super Bowl Championship window has clothes for the

723
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: Packers or maybe is real close to being over. What

724
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: do you think? I think you're not far off. You know,

725
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: they made a lot of great moves this off season,

726
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Brian Gudikins and what they did with that defense, to

727
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: bring in pass rushers, to bring an injury to Amos.

728
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: Maybe the young guys on offense develop. I mean they've

729
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: got a lot of young receivers. But yeah, Aaron Rodgers

730
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: thirty four going on thirty five. He doesn't play the

731
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: way Tom Brady plays. I think that Brady is kind

732
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: of skewed reality. I mean, he looks like he could

733
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: play till fifty. But he knows how to stay in

734
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: the pocket, maneuver in that pocket. His offensive line is

735
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: always the best in the NFL. He doesn't get hit.

736
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers relies on that extended play. He likes his legs,

737
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, heat better because he's one of the best

738
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: outside of the pocket. It's gonna leave momen and more hits.

739
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: And it's only a matter of time before these hits

740
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: at up. We've seen the collar bones, you know, already

741
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: cut into his career a little bit, the concussions. I

742
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: don't think that he's going to have the longevity that

743
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: Tom Braider even Drew Brees are having right now. Yeah, Tyler,

744
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: let me apologize for going over all this packer stuff.

745
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: I know you did it on this show a couple

746
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I wasn't here, but I got questioned and

747
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: here's my last one. I wondered that story and come

748
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: out March right the first week at April, I believe April.

749
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: It was a great story, probably the you know, your

750
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: signature story of the offseason, and you caught a lot

751
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: of flat particularly from Aaron Rodgers. How do you weather

752
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: that storm? I guess the reaction was was no reaction,

753
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: to be honest. You know, listen to it live and

754
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: it was expected that Aaron Rodgers would go where he

755
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: went to and talk to who he talked to. And

756
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: I think if you read this story and how he

757
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: was portrayed by all of these you know folks that

758
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: I talked to. I think one scout the knew him

759
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: pretty well. Um was in the personnel department for a while. Said, look,

760
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: any anything negative hurts him to his core, bothers him.

761
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you're Aaron Rodgers. Relax right, take your

762
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: own advice. Relax. Yeah, And that's just that's just not him.

763
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: I mean he he is very aware of the narrative

764
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers and I knew that, Yeah, that he

765
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: would absolutely respond the way he responded. H And I

766
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: to be honest, I didn't have a reaction. I didn't

767
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: really feel the need to say anything. The story can

768
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: stand for itself. Yeah, Tyler Dunn is with us. We're

769
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: talking about the Packers and we're going to talk about

770
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: the Bills. Um, you've worked in both markets, and of

771
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: course go back and did you went back and did

772
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: that Rogers McCarthy story. Um, are there similarities between the

773
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: way the Packers are perceived among their fan base and

774
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: covered there and the Buffalo Bills. I mean they're both

775
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: smaller markets, two smallest in the league that kind of

776
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: dominate the sports landscape in their markets. I tell you what,

777
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: it makes the fun when the fans care as much

778
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: as they do. I mean, granted, some of the fan

779
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: reaction after that story wasn't necessarily the fast, you know,

780
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: the log off of Twitter for a little bit, but uh,

781
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, it makes it fun when when they are

782
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: almost your boss. I mean, the desire for anything and

783
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: everything every day is just rare. You're not going to

784
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: get that in other markets because they are the number

785
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: one show in town. I mean, when the Packers losing Wisconsin,

786
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: you can feel a palpable depression. I mean, you go

787
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: to Starbucks. Sound everybody's in a bad right. I mean,

788
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: it's the same thing here in Western New York. And

789
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: when when they win, it's you know, it's unbelievable. I

790
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: can't imagine what's going to happen here in Western New

791
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: York whenever the Bills do win a Super Bowl. I'm

792
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: a little worried to see what's going to happen. To

793
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: be honest, who knows. So I think that that they're

794
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: very similar and to tie it kind of into the

795
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: search current situation with the Bills in a stadium and

796
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: where do they go? I mean they probably can look

797
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: to the Packers for a little direction there, and Mark Murphy,

798
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, a Western York native himself, can probably give

799
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: the Pagoula some advice. I mean, can you can play

800
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: off that in that tradition and maybe just expand on

801
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: what you have an Orchard Park. Who knows what the

802
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Bills do, but I think that there are benefits to

803
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: having a Rabbit fan base like that that Hey, maybe

804
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: you don't have all the corporate sponsors and the luxury

805
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: suites and all that, but you got something special here

806
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: in Buffalo that the Packers having Green Bay. Tyler Dunn

807
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: from Bleacher Report our co host today tomorrow, all Right,

808
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: Bill's Talk. Our Twitter poll what will be the Bill's

809
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: best step forward on defense in twenty nineteen? They were

810
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: pretty good on defense last year, But player after player

811
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: have come in here, Tyler in the last couple of

812
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: months and said, we got to be better in the

813
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: red zone. We weren't good in the red zone. So

814
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: I would pick that they need to be a better

815
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: red zone defense, you know, the second overall on defense,

816
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: But they gave up points, and they gave up points

817
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: at critical times. I think on a defense it is

818
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: pretty good, and you can probably name ten at least

819
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: starters for this defense. I still think there's room for improvement,

820
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: and it would be in the red zone. What about you,

821
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: what do you think? That's a great point. And I

822
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: didn't really know the numbers there, and probably Tremaine Emmons

823
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: in year two. That's where you see the improvement there,

824
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: just kind of knowing what to expect when the space

825
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: is tighter there and reacting a lot faster. I'll go

826
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: with the sacks. I mean I think that, yeah, sacks

827
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: can be a little overrated at times. I mean, if

828
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: you're getting pressure and that pressure is coming with regularity,

829
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: and it's coming from all angles, whether it's linebackers, DB's

830
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: ideally just your front force so you can cover on

831
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: the back end, then you're in good shape. But sax

832
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: change games too. I mean, that's where you get the

833
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: forced fumbles, that's where you get teams in third and

834
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: long and the bills were I think I have it

835
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: up here. I mean, what twenty sixth in the league

836
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: in sacks For as good as that defense was, that

837
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: seems like a place where they can make a jump.

838
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: Where would the sacks come from? We had this question,

839
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: Steve and I did the other day. Is it more

840
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: from Jerry Hughes or does an Oliver make that much

841
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: of a difference or somebody else. It'd be really interesting

842
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: to see what they do with at Oliver, right, I mean,

843
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: do you work him in slowly with Jordan Phillips kind

844
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: of being the top guy there? Is he a rotational guy?

845
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: Probably that that is his role initially, I would think,

846
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: and being more of a rotational guy, maybe not like

847
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: a three down player right away. He's not the biggest guy,

848
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: so you don't want to wear him down. But he

849
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: does have rare burst, rare explosion. That's why they took

850
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: him in the top ten. Probably comes from him. I

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Speaker 1: would think annahealthy Trent Murphy to go a long ways.

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Speaker 1: I see you can agree or disagree with this. I

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Speaker 1: happen to think that Ed Oliver kind of represents maybe

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Speaker 1: a new prototype of defensive line play. As you said, smaller.

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Speaker 1: He's not a big guy, an interior defensive lineman who

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Speaker 1: uses quickness and technique to make plays instead of a big,

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Speaker 1: space eating huge guy in the middle. There. I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills may be in the cusp of like a

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Speaker 1: new trend in the NFL with a guy like Ed

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Speaker 1: Oliver quite crazy boy, they hope. So. I mean Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald is the best player of football right right, And

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Speaker 1: that's the comparison that gets thrown around, probably a little

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Speaker 1: too much. I don't think we want to be no

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Speaker 1: I would annointing him the next Aaron Donald. But maybe

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Speaker 1: you are onto something. I think that the trend for

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Speaker 1: sure is having more than just four D lineman. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you need to keep those bodies fresh. I mean you're

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Speaker 1: talking about what seventy plays a game. Teams want to run.

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Speaker 1: You need to keep those three hundred pounders up there

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Speaker 1: cycling through to keep those legs fresh. He's definitely gonna

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Speaker 1: help there. Now, I don't, I don't know, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe you're right. Maybe this is the next

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Speaker 1: trend and teams are looking for that that smaller D tackle,

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Speaker 1: who who's going to penetrate in stuff. But we've also

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Speaker 1: seen smaller D tackles kind of get get swallowed up

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Speaker 1: at this level and unable to just rag doll lineman

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Speaker 1: like they did in college and at Oliver, absolutely ragdal

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Speaker 1: guys at Houston lay Hi, it's different. Do you ever

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Speaker 1: look at and this is not a test, but when

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Speaker 1: you look at last year's snap percentages for Bill's defensive linement.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty there's six guys one almost seven guys who

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Speaker 1: have at least a third of the defensive snaps, including

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Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips who had thirty eight percent. Shack Lawson had

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Speaker 1: forty three percent of the defensive snaps, Trent Murphy had

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Speaker 1: forty three percent, Starlotula Day had forty seven percent. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of guy secting through there already. Last year

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Speaker 1: Kyle had sixty five percent, Jerry Us had sixty six percent.

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Speaker 1: So those are two thirds of the snaps, but nobody

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Speaker 1: had more than that, right, Nobody played more than two

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Speaker 1: thirds of the snaps on the defensive line. I think

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Speaker 1: they're looking for more of that this year, probably right

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Speaker 1: out of the gate, including with the at Oliver, I

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Speaker 1: would think. And just a few years ago, how often

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Speaker 1: did it look like, you know, a Mario Williams was

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Speaker 1: just kind of worn down out there. Maybe there was

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Speaker 1: more going on, but he just looked tired a lot

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Speaker 1: of games, and the pressure's got to come from more

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Speaker 1: think that that Sean McDermott definitely is onto something with

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Speaker 1: all that look, whether it's McDermott, Brandon, Bean, Joe, Shane,

901
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Speaker 1: Dan Morgan. We saw the video footage right on Buffalo

902
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Speaker 1: bills dot com when they made that pick, or when

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Speaker 1: before they made that pick? Really when the when the

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Speaker 1: Lions didn't take at Oliver. There's a lot of joy

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Speaker 1: in that real sure so he sure is out. Hecker

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Speaker 1: expected him to be a stud. Yeah, all right, what

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Speaker 1: do you think of us? A call? We got phone

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five. Where will the

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Speaker 1: Bills take the biggest step forward on defense in twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? You can send in a tweet?

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Speaker 1: You can vote on the Twitter poll or give us

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Speaker 1: a call. I'd love to hear your voice. Come on back.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn is with us here today in place of

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. One Goes Live presented by Collada Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, One

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Speaker 1: goes Live. Genre If you with Tyler Dunn from Bleacher

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Speaker 1: Report talking about a lot of things, including the Packers

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Speaker 1: and a little bit about the Bills. Want to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Bills and what the defense can

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Speaker 1: do to get better. It's our question of the day

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Speaker 1: where the Bills take the biggest step forward on defense

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Let's go to the tweet sheet. It

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Speaker 1: is brought to you by Carrigan Moving Systems, the official

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Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills. Here's a tweet from our

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Speaker 1: very own Chris Brown listening to the show today. Apparently

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Speaker 1: Brownie Brownie voting in the Twitter poll. He said, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's eligible as a Bill's employee. Can

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown vote in the Twitter poll? I've never voted

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Speaker 1: in one of our Twitter bowls. I believe this is

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Speaker 1: our very own Chris Brownie. He goes, I voted for

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Speaker 1: more sacks. The Bills actually had more takeaways in twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen than twenty seventeen, but it didn't have the same

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Speaker 1: impact because the offense could not cash in on them

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Speaker 1: and had the second most giveaways in the league. Very

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Speaker 1: good points from a guy you would expect good points

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Speaker 1: from Chris Brown Bills. So he voted more sacks. I

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Speaker 1: get it. I think that's a good observation from Brownie.

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Speaker 1: The takeaways, as you mentioned, a lot of interceptions by

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Speaker 1: the very good Buffalo secondary last year, right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean you're talking about one of the best safety tandems

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Speaker 1: in all the NFL. I mean, Michae Hi, Jordan Poyer

943
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Speaker 1: been around the block for a while. They know what

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Speaker 1: to expect, probably watch as much film as anybody. They're

945
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Speaker 1: going to have those instincts to gamble, take a risk,

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Speaker 1: you know where other players wouldn't. And give me your

947
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Speaker 1: thoughts because a lot of talk about Tardavious White and

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Speaker 1: maybe being overlooked in the league. And an interesting guest

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Speaker 1: on was it yesterday? I believe it was oh Clint

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Speaker 1: Oldenberg who did the man in ratings many of the

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Speaker 1: Madden twenty ratings, and he pointed out how with a

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Speaker 1: strong start to the twenty eighteen season Tredevious White hand

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Speaker 1: and how he tailed off at the end. And I thought,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really, I wasn't aware that I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: back and look at that. But do you have any

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Tredevious White and mary where he ranks among

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Speaker 1: the top corners in the game. Why? And it's it's

958
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Speaker 1: always interesting every offseason because it seems like cornerbacks are

959
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Speaker 1: constantly stating their case why they're the best. Yeah, you

960
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Speaker 1: get the best personalities and egos really at that position,

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Speaker 1: and you've got to have somebody that's gonna get into

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Speaker 1: a receiver's face and somehow navigate through the impossible landscape

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Speaker 1: to navigate through him. In the NFL, every off season,

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Speaker 1: it's going to implement more rules and make your job tougher.

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Speaker 1: But they've got a keeper in Trey White. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I could add that anybody else

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Speaker 1: hasn't said already. I mean, the guy is one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the NFL. I don't know if he

969
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Speaker 1: is the best cornerback in the NFL, but right up there,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be paid very soon, as I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: Bills are well aware. Yeah, it's gonna be tough this year, though, Murph.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can you can review past interference now.

973
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Speaker 1: I mean, his job is going to be dissected to

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Speaker 1: the split second. It's gonna be really tough for every cornerback.

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Speaker 1: But I think the way that Tredevious White plays the position,

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Speaker 1: he should be able to adapt pretty well. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: just maul guys off the line of scrimmage like you

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Speaker 1: know the Legion of Boomers did a few years back.

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Speaker 1: It seems like he kind of plays from his feet up,

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Speaker 1: which is what you're gonna have to do to survive. Hey,

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Speaker 1: one cornerback question I have for you, and especially with

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Speaker 1: your league wide perspective. I mentioned this on the show

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Speaker 1: This Show the other day. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: popular Buffalo opinion, but I do think Stefan Gilmore is

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Speaker 1: one of the top three corners in the game right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you agree? What do you think? No

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. He played more man to man coverage.

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Speaker 1: I should say the Patriots as a team er and

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Speaker 1: more man and man coverage than any team in the

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Speaker 1: league pretty much, and it starts with Stefan Gilmour. Look,

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Speaker 1: I get it, Brandon Bean and Sean McDermot had to

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Speaker 1: get rid of a lot of bad contracts. They wanted

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Speaker 1: to tear this thing down build it back up in

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Speaker 1: their vision. That's probably probably one player that they would

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Speaker 1: love to keep around a lot of money, a lot

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Speaker 1: of money, a lot of money, but worth every penny.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about what a two time Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champ now played a big part in both wins,

999
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Speaker 1: just can totally eliminate whoever he's playing and has a

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Speaker 1: nose for the ball. Yeah, hindsight is twenty twenty for sure.

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Speaker 1: And it's not like cornerback is even that we could

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Speaker 1: But absolutely, I'd say he's the best cornerback in the game,

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Speaker 1: the best. Well, Doug Ferrar had a good list top

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Speaker 1: one hundred over at USA today. Gosh, I think it

1006
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Speaker 1: came out yesterday. He watches as much film as where

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Speaker 1: anybody have ever in. I think he was his number

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Speaker 1: one corner and the tenth best player overall in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We had Dug on the show Monday. I wish you

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Speaker 1: would have held up or put that out on Monday.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't talk about that. Tyler Dunn is here here

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Speaker 1: until three o'clock. We got the one hour of the

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Speaker 1: books two to go, and when we come back, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the Bills and the state of

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Speaker 1: the Bills. Adam Rank, who covers the NFL for NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com, will join us when we come back. Come

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Speaker 1: on back with us, talk more about the Bills defense,

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Speaker 1: what would be the biggest set forward they could take,

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Speaker 1: And of course we welcome your phone calls. At eight

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, Bufalo Hills Radio Network Stories Update You

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Speaker 1: Update from One Bill's Drive. The Sports World focused on

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Speaker 1: Northern Ireland as Round one of the British openers Underwey.

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Speaker 1: A remarkable first half of a round so far for

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Speaker 1: John Ram in his first full season or his third

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Speaker 1: full season as a professional. He made his Ryder Cup

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Speaker 1: debut a couple of years ago. He's had a great

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Speaker 1: front nine at the British Open. So far. He is

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Speaker 1: five hunderd par through the front nine. John Ram, playing

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Speaker 1: as an exempted player at yal Port Rush this week

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Speaker 1: five hundred par. He holds the lead as in round

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Speaker 1: one of the British Open. Roy McElroy start to the

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Speaker 1: Open in his native country couldn't been much worse. The

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Speaker 1: In his first te shot out of bounds ended up

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Speaker 1: with the quadruple bogie number eight on the first hold.

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Speaker 1: His opening drive hit a woman in the gallery and

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Speaker 1: cracked the screen of her mobile phone. In her pocket.

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Speaker 1: Roy McElroy finished at eight over par for the day

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Speaker 1: around one of the British Open underway. NFL news, a

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Speaker 1: three eight three day negotiation session between the league and

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Speaker 1: the players Union ended after a single day, according to ESPN,

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Speaker 1: to a joint statement issued by both sides yesterday's saying

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Speaker 1: today's meeting was productive, constructive, and beneficial and the meetings

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Speaker 1: will continue. The meetings were originally scheduled to run for

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Speaker 1: a couple of days through Friday, ended early because they

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Speaker 1: wanted to take information back and discuss further with other owners.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Falcons have reached a four year contract

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Speaker 1: extension with star linebacker Dion Jones. It's four years, fifty

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars length of the deal announced by the team.

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Speaker 1: It includes thirty four million guarantee for the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: performer Dan Jones. Former second round pick from LSU Melvin

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Speaker 1: Gordon's contract in Passes reached its the end of its

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Speaker 1: first week. The Los Angeles Chargers running back says teammates

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Speaker 1: and running backs around the league support him. He said

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Speaker 1: he gave some teammates a heads up he would threatened

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Speaker 1: to hold on if he didn't get a new deal

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Speaker 1: and he says, they got my back. They're all behind me.

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon twenty six years of age, directed fifteenth overall

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Speaker 1: by the Chargers in twenty fifteen, and the Bidsen's Homestain

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Speaker 1: continues tonight. They wrap up their series with Charlotte seven

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Speaker 1: o'clock at Salon Field tonight. Right ender Sean Reid Foley

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Speaker 1: on the mound for the Herd. That's the update from

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Speaker 1: One Bill Drive. John Murphy and Tyler Dunn from Bleacher

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00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: Report co hosting today. He's in for Steve Tasker. I'm

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00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Bills a little bit now and

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Speaker 1: some of the rest of the AFC East. Joining us

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Speaker 1: on the line is an NFL dot Com columnist, NFL

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Speaker 1: Network fantasy analysts, the host of the Adam Rank podcast.

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Speaker 1: Adam Rank is on the Limit us. Hello Adam, John

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Speaker 1: Murphy and Tyler up here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us,

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00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Tyler, what's going on? Guys? Thrilled to be

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00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: on with you. It's an honor, so thank you so

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00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: much for having me. All the honor is you've completed

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Speaker 1: the state of the franchise outlook of most of the league,

1078
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Speaker 1: including the AFC. He's including the Bills, and you say

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Speaker 1: the Bills. The headline says, and I know I've read

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00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: your piece are viable playoff contenders. What do you see

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00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: there at him? You know, one of the things that

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00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: I really like about this team is that they're taking

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00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: the trajectory that a lot of some of the more

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00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: recent successful teams who've not come out of nowhere but

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00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: have kind of had a slow build. What they've done

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00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: where they start with the with the you know, the

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00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: solid defense, build that up, and then they have these

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00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks who come in and have to take that

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00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: next step in season two. Now we've seen that in

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00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Jared Goff did it out

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00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, and of course Mitch Drubisky did

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00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: it with the Bears. And so if I'm a Bills fan,

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00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the way the rosters constructed, I'm looking

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00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: at the way that Josh Allen finished last season, and

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00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I should feel pretty encouraged. Now. It's

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Speaker 1: daunting because you always have the Patriots in the division,

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00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: but I think as a team, the Bills can do

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00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: it well. First Off, Adam, you do an awesome job.

1099
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: I was just telling John Man you tune in NFL

1100
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: Network whenever you're on, it just takes that energy level

1101
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: to the next level. I love it. You're too kind. No, no, no, don't.

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00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm already gonna do the gig. It's fine, you don't

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00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: have to. But I guess just to kind of tie

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00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: in that that fantasy perspective that you have, I think

1105
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: you know, to play Devil's Advocate with this Bill's team.

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00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: If you're a defense and you're looking at that offense,

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00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, like who scares you? Like? Who is

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00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: that weapon that you really have to game plan for

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00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: at running back, tight end, receiver, anybody? I mean, who

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00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: is that to you? Is there somebody that that scares

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00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: you that you know, hey, it's gonna be drafted high

1112
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: in fantasy? Well, that is one of the things that

1113
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: I have to admit that a lot of times when

1114
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, I will be swayed by my fantasy bias.

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00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: And I had Josh Allen on a lot of fantasy

1116
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: teams last year, and he's a viable out in commodity

1117
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: because of his rushing ability, and that's what makes him

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00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: so attractive, but it also makes them so difficult to

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00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: him in as an NFL quarterback. You know, we see

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00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: the way the league is going now that these quarterbacks

1121
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: who you don't have to necessarily be the one hundred

1122
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: yard rushing type, but somebody who can extend plays, allow

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00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: the guys around him to go out there and do

1124
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: their things, buy them a little bit time, maybe masks

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00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: some of the problems that you have on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are very valuable, and what we saw out

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen at the end of last year is

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00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: that he's really starting to grow. I really do believe

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00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: he can throw the football. I know a lot of

1130
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: people make the jokes. They make the same jokes for

1131
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: him as they make for Lamar Jackson with like, oh,

1132
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: this guy's just a running back. You're like, but this

1133
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: is kind of the way football's played now. And when

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00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: if I'm a defensive coordinator, I look at Josh Allen,

1135
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: I look at his athleticism and it's a very daunting task.

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00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: It's these guys are hard to defend it. I think

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00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen brings out and I think that what

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00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: they did in the offseason with the players that they

1139
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: brought in, but I think that just adding to it,

1140
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: they didn't have the big splash, they didn't have Odell

1141
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: Becker Junior. But I thought they made some nice news

1142
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: and I think this offense is going to definitely be

1143
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: better on the line. With Adam Rank from NFL dot Com,

1144
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: he has written stated the franchise says the Bills are

1145
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: viable playoff contenders, and you list three VIPs for the Bills,

1146
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, Josh Allen, and Tremine Edmonds. Tell me about McDermott,

1147
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: and maybe I guess I'm interested in the national profile

1148
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott might have after a couple of years

1149
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: in a sub five hundred records head coach of Buffalo. Wow,

1150
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: let's be realistic about what's going on there. And I

1151
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: even mentioned this in the piece that anytime you see

1152
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: a bald coach like I'm in, you've never seen my profile.

1153
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm a bald Americans. I always identify with those Tyler

1154
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Tyler's on board with as well. I think that Sean

1155
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: McDermott is a pretty striking figure if you ask me.

1156
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: But you look what he did in his first season

1157
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: when he took over that gig. Not a lot of

1158
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: people expected anything out of the Bills in that first

1159
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: season and lo and behold, they were nine and seven,

1160
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: made the playoffs and was pretty impressive. And last year,

1161
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: even though they won, won six games, doing it with

1162
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback who's learning on the job. To me,

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00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: that is pretty impressive. Like he's he's not being equipped

1164
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: with this full arsenal yet, like he's halfway there. It's

1165
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: kind of like if you if you play Madden. I know,

1166
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago we were giving out data

1167
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: codes for the Madden game. It's like a video game

1168
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: in progress. It's like this is gonna be good at

1169
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: some point down the road. Right now, it's not great,

1170
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: but he's getting the most out of it. And sometimes

1171
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: when you have that degree of difficulty being in division

1172
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: with the Patriots having it like basically starting with two

1173
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: losses but still finding a way to be competitive with

1174
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: that club and what they went through last season, I

1175
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: thought that it's pretty good. And if Sean McDermott was

1176
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: ever available on the coaching market, he would not be

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00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: unemployed for long. It's like that scene for that that

1178
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: that gag and How I Met Your Mother where Ted's

1179
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: kind of waiting for that girl to break up with

1180
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: a boyfriend, because every time she does, she has a

1181
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: new boyfriend in like three seconds. That's what it would

1182
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: be like if Sean McDermott was ever relieved of his duties,

1183
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: which I don't anticipate because I think he's a great coach.

1184
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: I think a lot of talk here right now. Anyways,

1185
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: it's that running back and who do you see as

1186
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: the number just starting week one? We should say, I mean,

1187
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: who's gonna be the number one back week one for Buffalo? Yeah,

1188
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: it really is. It's it's interesting because I have these

1189
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: three veteran guys. It's obviously the Shawn McCoy's there have

1190
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: been there for a while. They bring in Frank Gore, who,

1191
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: while he's thirty six, I don't think that that matters.

1192
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: I think he's going to go out there and perform

1193
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: to the best of his abilities, and I think he's

1194
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: a solid running back. And of course they brought in

1195
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: t J. Yelden, who I always thought was pretty good

1196
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: coming out of Alabama. But the guy that I'm most

1197
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: excited about is Devin Singletarret. I mean, he watched his

1198
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: tape and you watched this film. I didn't watch him

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Speaker 1: a lot when he was in college, but then going

1200
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: through the draft process, I really liked him. I thought

1201
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: that he was going to be a good asset for

1202
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: whatever team got him. And I make this point in

1203
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: our in our State of the Franchise series that this

1204
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: will be one of those things, one of these storylines

1205
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: where we've looked back on his career and will be like,

1206
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I forgot them. When he started, there

1207
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: were all these veteran guys ahead of him, but he

1208
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: ended up emerging and being the superstar. And I think

1209
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: that he kind of he kind of has the skill

1210
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: set that's going to play very well with Josh Allen,

1211
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see how they're going to work

1212
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: this out. So right now, the headliners are out there,

1213
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: they're doing their thing, but I think that Devin Singletary

1214
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: is the guy you definitely have to watch out for.

1215
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com column is sandem rank on the line

1216
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: with us? He wrote the Bills, stated the franchise. This

1217
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 1: line intrigues me. M in the column that arrote the bills,

1218
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: the one storyline people are overlooking. You write the bills

1219
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: receivers are pretty good. Make that case for me. What

1220
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: do you see? Yeah, listen. I kind of like what

1221
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: they got going on. I thought that John Brown was

1222
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: a perfect pickup for them. I mean, obviously, one of

1223
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: the strengths of Josh Allen is his arm and throwing

1224
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: the football a long way down the field. And Smoky

1225
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Brown has been one of the best deep route runners

1226
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL for quite some time, going back to

1227
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: his days with the Arizona Cardinals. Last year he was

1228
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of miscast with the Baltimore Ravens where they weren't

1229
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: really gonna they weren't really going to take advantage of

1230
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: his skills. It's like if you if you gave My

1231
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: Toddler a BMW, like it's cool, Like it's nice. I'm

1232
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: sure she had appreciate it, but she can't drive it.

1233
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: She's not gonna be able to do that for twelve years,

1234
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: so what uses it? So now you put him in

1235
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: a team that can actually use a player like him.

1236
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: So you got him stretching the field. You go out

1237
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: and you get Cold Beasley, a guy who can work

1238
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: the work the slot. I think that that's a pretty great,

1239
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: low key pickup. And I don't want to I don't

1240
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: want to put this kind of kind of expectation on

1241
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: him or anything. But it's very similar to what we've

1242
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: seen New England do all these years when they get

1243
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: those slot receiver types, when they get West Welker, you know,

1244
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: they get players in like that, Wes Welker, A Mendola,

1245
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Julian Adelman, I even Brandon Cooks when you mixed them

1246
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: into like, those guys go out there and they can

1247
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: have a very good role. And then of course my guy,

1248
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: Robert Foster. Foster's my guy, and I will die on

1249
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: this hill. I thought that he was great at Alabama.

1250
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be a good pro. He

1251
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: came out, he ran what was he he was fifth?

1252
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: I think in the forty when he was going through

1253
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: the combine, he was invited. I'm like, Okay, this guy's

1254
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: got some skills. I love these SEC guys. I think

1255
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: they just they just translates well to the to the

1256
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: NFL game. And last year it kind of, you know,

1257
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: didn't work out. I know that I'm preaching to the

1258
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: choir with this one, but obviously didn't start off well.

1259
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: But sometimes, you know, getting cut and getting humbled and

1260
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: getting refocused is exactly what a player needs. And what

1261
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: we saw at the end of the season. I think

1262
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: is going to help make him a big star in

1263
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: this league. And when you have guys like John Brown

1264
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 1: and Cole Beasley who are established veterans who will draw

1265
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: some of that heat. We talked about it just a

1266
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: moment ago, like who on this team scares defensive coordinators.

1267
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: Obviously they're gonna be looking at Josh Allen. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be looking at stopping the deep passes with John Brown.

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00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: And you know what, Robert Foster can get loose down

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00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: the field as well. And as long as Josh Allen

1271
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: starts working on his accuracy a little bit. I know

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00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: there's there's some things you go back, you look at

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00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: the film, We've seen some breakdowns, like there's some things

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00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: he can work on. But I think that Foster has

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00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: the ability to do it. And again, it's it's not

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00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: a headline thing. It's not getting Odell Beckham's junior, it's

1277
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: not trading for Antonio Brown. But you know what, sometimes

1278
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: these low key moves are the ones that payoffs. New

1279
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: England's been doing it for the last what twenty years,

1280
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: and I think the Bill has made a nice I

1281
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: think they made a nice pivot when the whole thing

1282
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown didn't work out, and I think the

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: guys that they got are going to be valuable contributors.

1284
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: And I liked this offense. All right, Adam, we got

1285
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: to talk a little fantasy football. Hit me with your

1286
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: big board. Can take it as long as you want,

1287
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: give me, give me five your top five overall. Mock

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00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: him out here. Well, the easiest thing about fantasy this

1289
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: season is at running backs are now the prominent position

1290
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: once again. There was a proliferation of drafting wide receivers

1291
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Speaker 1: over the last number years. But I think that you

1292
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: go back kind of old school where you're going with

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: running backs. And obviously sae Quon Barkley's the number one

1294
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: guy for me, and people will not want to draft

1295
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: him because what about the talent around him? And I

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01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: understand that, but remember when we had peak Adrian Peterson

1297
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: in his second season. He had that breakout rookie year.

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01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: His second season, he rushed for eighteen hundred yards. His

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01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks were Gus Barratt and Cavaris Jackson. I don't

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01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: even remember who the receivers were. Adrian Peterson was the

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Speaker 1: only person on that offense, and he went out there

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01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: and did well. Now you look at sae Quon Barkley.

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01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: He has the ability to rush for eighteen hundred yards.

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01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: They might not be in enough of positive game scripts

1305
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: that will call for it, but he's easily their top

1306
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: receiver as well. He had ninety one a season ago.

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01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: He could get one hundred receptions. He could go one

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: thousand and one thousand. So Sequon Barkley is very easy.

1309
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: It's an easy pick for me. Followed by Alvin Kamara

1310
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: for the same reasons that I was just talking about

1311
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: a second ago. Kamara has been crushing it, even though

1312
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: he's had to split some time with mark Ingram. But

1313
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: now that he's gone, you put Latavius Murray in there

1314
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: and let Damas. Murray's fine, but he's not the receiver

1315
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: that mark Ingram was, which means more receiving opportunities for

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01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara. So if you wanted to slide him into

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Speaker 1: number one, I'm not going to argue. I'm not going

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01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: to stop you. But he's my number two guy, followed

1319
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: by Christian McCaffrey. Then we have Ezekiel Elliott, and then

1320
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Speaker 1: at number five. This might surprise a lot of people.

1321
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: I love leveyon Bell. This season, and one of the

1322
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: reasons is Adam Gates. They fired the GM. They were

1323
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: upset with the money that they spent on Leveon Bell,

1324
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: and this seems to me like this is gonna be

1325
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: a one and done situation, Like they're not gonna want

1326
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: to pay him that long term money. So they're like,

1327
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: you know what, They're probably already thinking about their next

1328
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: spend next year, so they're like, you know what, for

1329
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: the coming season, we're gonna run Leveon Bell into the

1330
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: ground because we don't have a long term plan for him.

1331
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: And again, like Saquon Barkley, he's probably the best receiver

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: on that team. He's going to touch the ball at

1333
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: least four hundred times. I think he's out to prove

1334
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: something as well. So I really do believe as long

1335
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: as long as Adam Gas doesn't give him the business

1336
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: like when he was ignoring Kenyan Drake last year, I

1337
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: think that Lavyon Bell could be a solid number five,

1338
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: followed by David Johnson, who I think is going to

1339
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: have a rebound this season in Cliff Kingsbury's offense. I

1340
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are worried about the offensive

1341
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: line in Arizona, but they had some injury problem. But

1342
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: the one way that you overcome any sort of injuries

1343
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: or ineffectiveness of the offensive line is to get the

1344
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: ball out of the quarterback's hand very quickly, and you

1345
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: do that with short passes, which is what Kingsbury did

1346
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: at Texas Tech. So those are my top six right now,

1347
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: and then you start with the wide receivers like DeAndre

1348
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: Hopkins and go on from that. And I'm on the

1349
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: topic of running back. You did an interesting Twitter poll

1350
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: asking your followers the other day who would you rather have?

1351
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara or Christian McCaffrey. How did you set all

1352
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: on those two and how did that poll turn out? Yeah,

1353
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, it was running I have him checked recently,

1354
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: but for most of the day yesterday it was running

1355
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: about fifty to fifty. I think that the conversation of

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01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: which one is more effective, it's very close. It really

1357
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: is hard to really choose between one or the other.

1358
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: It's like when you're debating whether you like Star Wars

1359
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: episode four if you like Empire. They're both great. I

1360
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: can hear the arguments for each of them. I will,

1361
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: of course side with Empire, but that's just me, and

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01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to. I'm not going to besmirche and I'm

1363
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: not going to disparage anybody who wants to talk about

1364
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: New Hope. That's fine, that's that's your call for the

1365
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: reasons I talk about Kamara a moment ago without mark

1366
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: ingram there with an offense that's really been leaning on

1367
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: the on the run over the last couple of years.

1368
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: Drew Brees didn't get four thousand passing yards last season. Now,

1369
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: obviously he did take Week seventeen off. He could have

1370
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: reached it if he was really involved and really inspired

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Speaker 1: to get that milestone. But what we've seen over the

1372
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Speaker 1: last couple of years is that Drew Brees is throwing

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01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: the ball last, the running the ball more, which means

1374
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: more opportunity for kim Era, more opportunities to catch the football,

1375
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: even though my Thomas is there. But I still like that.

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01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's interesting too, because you know they he's again,

1377
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: they're probably their top receiver, although Djay Moore is starting

1378
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: to come on in Carolina, but Christian McCaffrey's one of

1379
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: their top receivers. He runs the ball all both all three.

1380
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw Barkley into this, but all three

1381
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: of those guys are candidates to go one thousand and

1382
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: one thousand and almost. In some respects, I almost wish

1383
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: that I'm picking third, because then I don't have to

1384
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: make the decision, and he's just like, Okay, well, I

1385
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: had to listen. I had to settle for Kamara or McCaffrey,

1386
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: and I would be happy with either one of them.

1387
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: But it's it's interesting to see how it's shaking out.

1388
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: I think the quarterback situation in Carolina also worries people

1389
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: if Cam's going to be able to steal health or

1390
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: excuse me, stay healthy. And when Cam is healthy, he

1391
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: also steals some of those goal line touchdowns that Drew

1392
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Brees doesn't, so that's also another factor in there. But

1393
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: we're splitting hairs at this point. We're trying to make

1394
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: a case for guys who are excellence. But you know,

1395
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: I guess there can be only one, So I guess

1396
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: I do go Kamara. I guess the answer A long

1397
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: winded way to answer that question. I could have just

1398
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: answered it, but I had to go through fifty five

1399
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: minutes of that and take take up your whole show.

1400
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: But I apologize for that. And how many fantasy leagues,

1401
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: are you in ninety six? No? You know what I

1402
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: always well, I always get asked and I do. I'll

1403
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: do dumb things, and like people will ask them, I'll

1404
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay, you know, and I don't really

1405
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: know because I always use the NFL dot Com or

1406
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy App. It's all right there. And if

1407
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: I can give a small plug for our app, they're

1408
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: redoing it right now and all the programmers and the

1409
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: engineers and all these guys are doing such a great job. Listen,

1410
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. The app wasn't great a

1411
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, but it's really getting good. I'm

1412
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: gonna keep it real with you. It's really getting good.

1413
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: And so I'm always happy to like jump out. As

1414
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: long as everybody plays on NFL dot Com and the

1415
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy App, I'm happy to jump in. I believe

1416
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: the total right now, which I don't think is that

1417
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: bad eighteen. That's man, it iss, it's my job. It's

1418
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: not like my boss is gonna come and look over

1419
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: my shoulder and say, what are you doing spending all

1420
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: this time on your fantasy team. In fact, it goes

1421
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: the other way, like you're not spending enough time. You

1422
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: go in there and worked the way for a while,

1423
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: so I'm already in that space anyways, so it's like,

1424
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? So it's a lot of fun.

1425
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: It's it actually makes you. It's like when you were

1426
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: in college and those semesters where you took extra classes.

1427
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: You can't afford the splack. It actually makes me more

1428
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: in tune because I can't. I can't fall behind for

1429
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: a second. And it's still easier than doing fantasy baseball.

1430
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: So I think that it's okay, and I I want

1431
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: more for you. Non fantasy question because you have written

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01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: the State of the Franchise for several NFL teams, including

1433
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: the AFC's Bills and Jets, both with second your quarterbacks

1434
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: first round draft picks a year ago. In what way

1435
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: are they similar and how do you differentiate between those

1436
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: two because many of us having to think that's maybe

1437
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: the Bill's rivals now in the AFC East in terms

1438
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: of kind of replacing the Patriots Bills, I mean the

1439
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: Jets this year. How do you see that shaken out? Yeah? Well,

1440
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, I will point out that I wrote all

1441
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: thirty two State of the Franchise pieces that was about

1442
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: well seventy five thousand words or whatever. Who the guy now.

1443
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: But it's not a lot of fun, like it's my

1444
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: job is not difficult, Like let's be realistic, like I'm

1445
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: writing about football. Oh my whoe is me? Yeah, please

1446
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: feel sorry for me. But it's one of those things.

1447
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: I look at the Jets, and like you said, they're

1448
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: very similar. I like Sam Darnold's an awful lot. He's

1449
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: a local kid. I'm out here in southern California, so

1450
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: I've seen him since high school, going all the way

1451
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: on through the USC, so I've had a keen interest

1452
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: in his career. We both hate the Soil High School,

1453
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: which was his rival, so we both kind of bonded

1454
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 1: over that. And I love that they have lea beyond Bell.

1455
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: The receivers. You know, they got nice receivers too. They

1456
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: got kind of an underrated receiving corps similar to the Jets.

1457
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: I think when Chris Herndon comes back, I think we

1458
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: have a little bit of the edge of the tight

1459
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: end position, but I think the Bills have better receivers,

1460
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: even though Robbie Anderson is pretty nice. The defense for

1461
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: the Bills, to me, like that's the runaway. I think

1462
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are much better off defensively. That's not even

1463
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: I don't even think that's worth discussing because we didn't

1464
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: even mention them. We got at all of her, like

1465
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: what a great draft pick for the Bills, Like how

1466
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: this hat well? Thankfully the Giants were doing dumb things,

1467
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: but such a great draft picks to the defense for

1468
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: the Bills. Cut cutting away its way better, way better.

1469
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: But the thing is we talked about Sean McDermott. The

1470
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: one thing that scares me about the Jets is that

1471
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: they went for Adam Gaze And I'm trying to figure

1472
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: it out, Like what what were they doing? Like why

1473
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: were they Why did what happened in those last three

1474
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 1: years down in Miami that the Jets brass were watching

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01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: and they're like, we gotta have this guy as our coach.

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: Like were they watching it? They're like, if we had

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze, we would do Like I don't understand dan

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01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: what it was. And I know that Adam Gays has

1479
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: been living off this reputation for he was the offensive

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01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: coordinator for the for the Broncos when Paid Manning through

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01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: fifty five touchdowns. He also had Jay Cutler have one

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01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: of his best seasons uh in the NFL when he

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01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator. And I'm like, okay, let me

1484
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: see if i can get this straight. You're billing this guy.

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: What he did. He was he was able to coach

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks of all times, one of

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: the all time great quarterbacks. And he also coached Peyton Manning.

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: And that is what you're saying is driving this is

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01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: this is a guy of course, like a lot of

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: people would have great success was Cutler and Manning. So

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01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't understand where a lot of that is coming from,

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: but maybe you know, whatever it is, and maybe he

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01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: is good, and then all that would be great. But

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01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: what they really need to do is they need to

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: take dal Logan's keycard and hide it from him and

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: not let him in to the building, because that's the guy.

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01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: That's the one thing. Like every Jets fan that comes

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01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: up and I you know, I do predictions, and I'm like,

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01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are going to have a better

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01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: record than the Jets. They're like why, and I'm like, dialalogue,

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01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: I just no, I just I'm not. I'm more sold

1502
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: on the Bills defense and the Bills coaching staff than

1503
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: I am the Jets. I thought there was a questionable move,

1504
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, the I don't know. I maybe they saw something,

1505
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. They saw something that I didn't. Maybe

1506
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: he didn't get a full affair shake in Miami. But

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01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: I saw the way that he used Kenyan Drake, which

1508
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: was frustrating. And again this comes from a fantasy perspective,

1509
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I didn't see that offense really take

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: a step forward. I didn't see that he helped out

1511
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill all that much. So to me, it just

1512
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: it really, I don't know, it just and it looks

1513
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: like the kind of situation too. And I even wrote

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01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: this in the piece that when you bring in an

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: Adam Gas and a Greg Williams's like, you must think

1516
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: that you can win right now. And if it does

1517
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: not start working out, who's gonna start paying the price

1518
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: for that? Who is going to be the scapegoat? Zal

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01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: Logan's gonna get fired? Is Adam Gates gonna be a

1520
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: one and done? Like there's so many things going on

1521
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: with that team that I think that it's easy to

1522
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: see them inflowed and kind of actually not be as

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01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: good as they were last year. Where I see the Bills.

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01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: The Bills are just building and ascending, and to me,

1525
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: that seems like a team that's on the rise. All

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01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: their moves make sense. I'm like, I'm down with everything

1527
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 1: that they're doing so to me, and I know that

1528
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: I'm again preaching to the choir and I should face

1529
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: the congregation, but I think the Bills are in a

1530
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: much much better spot than the Jets right now. Adam,

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01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: thanks for this. We enjoy your perspective. Keep up with

1532
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: good work with your desert and the fantasy teams. Oh,

1533
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you well. No, I appreciate coming on.

1534
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: I hope I didn't make everybody turn the radio off.

1535
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: I know that I'm obnoxious, but that's okay. I'm used

1536
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: to it. But I appreciate the opportunity to spend some

1537
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: times with you and talk about a team that I'm

1538
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: I kind of like. I think this is a fun team.

1539
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be look forward to see what the Bill's

1540
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: got going. And I know the fans out there are amazing.

1541
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: Every time I go out the Canton or do anything

1542
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: like that, the Bills fans are always some of the best.

1543
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: So kudos do you, guys. I hope it works out

1544
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: for you. I hope you can challenge the Patriots this year.

1545
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: But I really do believe, I sincerely believe that you

1546
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: guys are going to be in that playoff on excellent

1547
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: Thanks Adam Adam Rank, NFL Network Fantasy Analysts, NFL dot

1548
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: Com columnist. He's written stated the franchise on all thirty

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: two teams, including the Bills. He says the Bills are

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: viable playoff contenders in twenty nineteen. We'll talk about that.

1551
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn as our co host. Today, we'll come back

1552
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll talk about the Buffalo defense. Where

1553
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: will the Bills take the biggest step forward on defense

1554
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: this year? We got phone lines open if you'd like

1555
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: to discuss eight oh three five fifty and toll free

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01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. John

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01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: Murphy with Tyler Dunn Here until three o'clock today. It's

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01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

1559
01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back. In is one Bills Live. We

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: are midway through the show, John Murphy with Tyler Dunn

1561
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: from Bleacher Report. He is co hosting today and tomorrow

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01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: in place of Steve Tasker. Why don't over you won't

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: be the Bill's best step forward on defense this year.

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01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: We know they're pretty good defensively, but what would be

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01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: the best thing they could do to get better on defense?

1566
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 1: We got full lines open eight three five fifty toll

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01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty,

1568
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: or you can vote on our Twitter poll. On the

1569
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: Twitter poll get an interesting response from those who are

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: engaged in our Twitter poll. Forty one percent say the

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: best thing the Bills can do is to get more sacks.

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: Twenty nine percent say more turnovers, twenty six percent say

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01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: better red zone defense, five percent have something else in mind.

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01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: So give us a call, vote on Twitter sending a tweeter,

1575
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: or give us a call eight three five fifty toll

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01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Tyler,

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01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: Steve's been teaching me this game. We play a new

1578
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: game here now called What's for Lunch? Who are you ready?

1579
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: Let's do it? Because if I'm round what's for lunch?

1580
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: You pick good and bad? Chicken wings good, a piece

1581
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: of a car found between two slices of wonderbread apparently

1582
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: represent bad for lunch. So that's we're gonna play, right, now,

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01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: what's for lunch? What would you rather have? That's we're

1584
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: asking here. Let's go through a couple of NFL issues.

1585
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: What's for lunch? What would you rather have? What's for lunch?

1586
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Baker Mayfield? Is he cocky or is he confident? Man,

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01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you are not easy. I'm giving you

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01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: a warning right now. Yeah, I'm gonna say cocky. But

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. I mean, this is

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: a team, a franchise that's just lived in miseries since

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01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: they returned to ninety nine. They need this just shot,

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01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: this jolt of adrenaline, of energy. They haven't had that

1593
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: at the position, really anywhere on their team since then.

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01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: So Baker Mayfield will give you that. I mean, hey,

1595
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: he's staring down Hugh Jackson on the sideline's week to week.

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01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna get. But he backs

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01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: it up. He backs it up. I mean he's he

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 1: kind of like just thrives off of it. It's almost

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01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: like it's his oxygen. It gets him going out there

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01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: on the field. Um. Yeah, I think cocky, and I

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01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a good thing. I think

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01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: it's what the Browns needs. I think he's cocky. I

1603
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: think you're right about that. I have to say I

1604
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: didn't watch as much as Baker Mayfield as many did

1605
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: last year, but I will this year because they are

1606
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: a much more interesting team in the builds playing amount

1607
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: November tenth as a matter of fact. But I'll go

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: with cocky. I think he's cocky. Here's what worries me

1609
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: about him, and I don't. I don't lay up, you know,

1610
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: in bed at night worry about this. But Jarvis Landry

1611
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: can go off the reservation, Odell Beckham can get loose

1612
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: once in a while. How does Baker Mayfield Cocky Baker

1613
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 1: Mayfield handle that? That would concern me if I were

1614
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: concerned at all about the Browns, right, I mean, it's

1615
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: inevitable They're they're gonna butt heads at some point. I

1616
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: mean Baker Mayfield, Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham Jr. It's at

1617
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: some point this season they're not gonna see eye to eye.

1618
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna get ugly. But I mean, I'm sure you

1619
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: talked to uh, you know the quote unquote bickering. I

1620
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: mean that can be a good thing for a team

1621
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: to work through something like that. I mean long term,

1622
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: but not immediately. That wasn't good in eighty nine to

1623
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: have that disruption eruption. But it was good to have

1624
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: those personalities. It was good to have those egos. It

1625
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: was good to have that talent. The Browns have all

1626
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 1: of that, and it's it's going to come to a

1627
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: head at some point and they're probably just have to

1628
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: work through it like that team. And I'm not portraying

1629
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: myself as an expert on the eighty nine bickering bills,

1630
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: but that wasn't necessarily guaranteed that they would have that eruption,

1631
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: they'd work through it and be good after that. That

1632
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: could have torn the team apart. There were strong, strong

1633
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: personalities in the coaching office, Marv Levy and Bill Polian

1634
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: who kind of rode that and made sure that they

1635
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: continued on with that group and got things in order.

1636
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a guarantee though, and maybe maybe

1637
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: it's less likely now in the current social media era,

1638
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: and you know, there's so much more money, it's say,

1639
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: less likely to get through that successfully now than there

1640
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: was back in nineteen eighty nine. I would make that

1641
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: argument too. It definitely took Jim Kelly swallowing a little

1642
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: bit of his ego at that time, right, I mean,

1643
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: you know better than me. But he definitely had to

1644
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: look himself in the mirror at that moment and kind

1645
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: of put a little blame on himself, and he did

1646
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: and things worked out. So there's gonna be that come

1647
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: to Jesus moment at some point, I think for these Browns.

1648
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: But it's to compare them to what four Hall of

1649
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: Famers is a little bit much right now. But they've

1650
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: got more talent on offense, I think than anybody in

1651
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: that division for sure, maybe anybody in the AFC. All right,

1652
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: what's for lunch? What do you prefer? What do you want?

1653
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: Here's your choice now, Tyler not twenty nineteen season. Who

1654
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 1: will have a better record the Cincinnati Bengals or the

1655
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers? Better record than twenty nine Bengals or Steelers? Boy,

1656
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: I think this is easy. It's the Steelers, you know

1657
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: they I get it. You let Bell walk, You'll let

1658
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown walk. That's that's not good to lose that.

1659
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: But they've got ju Juice, Miss Schuster, They've got James Connor.

1660
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: They're really high on James Washington and Ben Roethlisberger's not

1661
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I think the Steelers are the Steelers. And

1662
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: like I was out at Cincinnati's training camp last summer,

1663
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: John and I mean I took that hook line and sinker,

1664
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: kind of like doing the Browns now. I thought the

1665
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 1: Bengals were a playoff team. If they stayed healthy, maybe

1666
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: they would have competed for a spot. But you know,

1667
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: AJ Green wasn't Aj Green. Andy Dalton was Andy Dalton.

1668
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: So I don't think you can expect the Bengals to

1669
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: make any kind of jump. They are what they are

1670
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: at this point, all right. I would say the Steelers

1671
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: for sure. I think that's an easy one. What do

1672
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: you have what's for lunch? Kirk Cousins or Derek Carr?

1673
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: Who will have a better bounce back year In twenty nineteen,

1674
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: Derek Carr were the Raiders. Kirk Cousins with the Minnesota

1675
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. It's a tough one, Uncle Kirk Cousins.

1676
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: You know he's got the weapons dealon Stefan Diggs. They're

1677
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball more. You know, they got a

1678
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: little too pass happy at times. I think they'll set

1679
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: up those big plays better this year with a little

1680
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: bit more direction on offense with the Raiders. I know

1681
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: they made all the flash and Tonio Brown for sure,

1682
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: but I'm still not sold on John Gruden. I don't

1683
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: know if if he really can coach in this era.

1684
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he was away from the game, and maybe

1685
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: not the game. He was up in the booth, but

1686
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: schematically x's and knows whys away from it for a

1687
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: long time. And I didn't see anything last year that

1688
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: suggested he's really adapted quite yet. I'll give you that

1689
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: the coaching part, but I do think Derek Carr has

1690
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: a better skill set and it's just better equipped to

1691
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 1: play the position than cousins. I really do. He's had

1692
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: a couple of less than stellar years coming off the

1693
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: injury from now what three years ago, I guess it

1694
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: would be three seasons ago. But I think Carr has

1695
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: a lot more to give. I'm not writing him off

1696
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 1: as a bonified big time NFL quarterback. I agree with you.

1697
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: I see what you see on Gruden, but I think

1698
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: there are good weapons around him, and I think I

1699
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if car is kind of feeling the pressure, like, oh,

1700
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: I got to get back to where I was a

1701
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I was one of the top

1702
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: ones in the game, and now I've I've dropped off.

1703
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: We'll see lastly on what's for lunch? Which would rather have?

1704
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: This goes to kind of your John Gruden analogy there too.

1705
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning could have been a better broadcaster or general manager.

1706
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: Remember they were talking about him as a potential general

1707
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: manager or at least somebody. Were the Jets gonna bring

1708
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: a man or somebody. Yeah, somebody's gonna bring us, right,

1709
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: what do you bet a better He's neither neither a

1710
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: general manager or a broadcaster. Which would he be better

1711
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: suited for? Man? You know, I don't overthink this, Skyler,

1712
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: don't overthink I'm gonna say he'd make a better GM

1713
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: just because I think that we always think these players

1714
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: would just be Oh he'd be great in the booth.

1715
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: He'd be great in the booth and paid. Manning kind

1716
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: of was was honest and said I wouldn't be able

1717
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: to be honest in the booth like I should be

1718
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: in that position. I mean, look how bad Jason Witten was.

1719
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: I think everybody thought Witten would be would be great.

1720
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 1: He never said anything really week to week it was.

1721
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: It was a yawn fest. So uh, I mean, who

1722
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: knows what kind of GM paid man it would be.

1723
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: But I think that self awareness. As a broadcaster, he

1724
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: would have been a pretty bad broadcasting. He's a great

1725
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: commercial spokesman, right, You've seen him in commercials. He's hilarious,

1726
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: But that's very you know, he should could prepare for

1727
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: that scripted. It's it's a tough position up in the booth.

1728
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: I think I think you're overthinking it. It's not that

1729
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: probably been booth for a while and it's only local radio,

1730
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: but it's not that hard. It's gotta be no. You

1731
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: gotta be on top of it. To be a general manager.

1732
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: You gotta know what's going on with your team, every

1733
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: other team. You gotta know about scouting. You gotta have

1734
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: kind of a contacts throughout the scouting world. No way,

1735
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: he'd be a much better It's a much easier job,

1736
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. Come on, being a

1737
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: broadcasting and being a general manager, if you're doing it right,

1738
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: it's a much easier job. I'm gonna try to talk

1739
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: myself into this one. He made everybody better in Indianapolis

1740
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: already had to have all the talent around him all

1741
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: the time. But hey, let's get back to the Bills

1742
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: when we return, and who'll take where we're the biggest

1743
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: step forward be on defense. Give us a call, we'll discuss.

1744
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: We'll read from the tweet. Cheet. I want to remind

1745
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: you that you know we're going to training camp a

1746
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: week from today. Our first show, Steve and I will

1747
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: be a Bills training camp on Thursday, July twenty fifth,

1748
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: a week from today, and a week after that, eight

1749
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: days after that, it's the Return of the Blue and

1750
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: the Red. The Bills Night practice coming up Friday, August second,

1751
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: six fifteen right here in New Airfield. Gates open at

1752
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: five fifteen. They'll be interactive games. I'll have photo opportunities

1753
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: for you and players and coaches much more. You get

1754
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: to watch practice. It is Friday, August second, two weeks

1755
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: from tomorrow, six to fifteen. Return of the Blue and Red.

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Speaker 1: voucher there and then you can get a ticket on

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Speaker 1: your phone. You can come to see practice. The Return

1764
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 1: of the Blue and the Red coming up Friday, August second,

1765
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: six fifteen at New Airfield. Tyler Dun and I return

1766
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: after this One Bill's Live presented by Kalaida Health from

1767
01:22:47,600 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio back One

1768
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Steve is out and

1769
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn is in from Bleacher Report here until three

1770
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: o'clock today. Tyler will be back with us tomorrow. Got

1771
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: a pretty good topic on the table. What area would

1772
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 1: the Bills take the biggest step forward on defense in

1773
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 1: this year? What do you think about that? You can

1774
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 1: tweet in a response, You can vote in a Twitter poll.

1775
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: You can give us a call eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two fifty.

1777
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,839
Speaker 1: Let's take a call about another topic. Jerry calling from Montana.

1778
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: Hello Jerry, thanks for listening. How you doing good? How

1779
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: are you doing excellent? I love you guys. I watch

1780
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: you out here all the time. Thanks, Jerry. I'm an

1781
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: old Wyoming corridor back. I've called in before, but your

1782
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: question was, what do you think it's the most important

1783
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 1: thing for the Bills to get going this year. Yeah,

1784
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about defense, but you've got something else you

1785
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: want to talk about. Go ahead. Well, I thought, since

1786
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: they've got some new guys coming in on the line,

1787
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: it would be to get that solidified, hitting on all

1788
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: cylinders so Josh doesn't have to be in the eye

1789
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: of whirlwind, and that they can get their offense going,

1790
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: hold the ball, stay on the field and make other

1791
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: teams pay. That would be great. Are you, Jerry? Are

1792
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: you telling you played quarterback at University of Wyoming? Is

1793
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: that what you told us? Is that what you're saying? Yes, sir,

1794
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: give me your thoughts on Josh Allen. What you thought

1795
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: of him when he was with Wyoming and what do

1796
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: you think of him after one year in the league. Well,

1797
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: it's like when I called in last ball. I called

1798
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: in because at the time it was before he had

1799
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 1: made a resurgence with the Bills, and I said, he

1800
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: was so fresh, so inexperienced. He really only played at

1801
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: the time. I thought it was seven team games. I

1802
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: can't remember what it was now, but he didn't have

1803
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: a lot of game time in college, only two years,

1804
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: and he had a couple of games he was hurt.

1805
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 1: And these quarterbacking skills like clock management, getting the ball

1806
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: out of bounds, staying in the pocket, moving up in

1807
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: the pocket, throwing straight up the field, those things he

1808
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: was really lacking. And he had a habit to always

1809
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 1: throw deep to the right trying to run. And he

1810
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: started out with the Bills doing that same thing. So

1811
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: I thought he really came on. He really looked good

1812
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: and I didn't see those old habits at his surface.

1813
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: One more question I have for you, Jerry, what would

1814
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: be the best area of improvement for Josh Allen in

1815
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: his second year in the league. What do you think?

1816
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: What are you looking for? I think he needs to

1817
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: figure out a way to keep calm, yes, to be

1818
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: mentally prepared, Yes, to visualize what he's going to do

1819
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: on every play, and quit the old fashioned dai lean

1820
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: out of the pocket to the right, try to step

1821
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: up in the pocket, and if he can't do that,

1822
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: throw the ball away into the ground. Sounds good, Jerry. Thanks,

1823
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: you got another call on the line here, Tom and

1824
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: West Seneca. Go ahead, Tom, you're on the air of this,

1825
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: John Tyler, thank you so much for having me. I

1826
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Sure, I couldn't agree more with what Eda

1827
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: Brant had to say about Josh Hellen and our bid

1828
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. I couldn't agree more one hundred and

1829
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: ten percent. And I must say that when you mentioned

1830
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: when he talked about a short passing game, which in

1831
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: his essence, the West Coast offense, I think the West

1832
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: Coast offense could also. It just got to be a

1833
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 1: mix of it. Don't forget Joe Montana did the West

1834
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Coast offense to perfection, but Joe Montana doesn't have the

1835
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: arm that Josh Hallen has. That being said, an improvement

1836
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: in our zone defense would be tremendous. I think we

1837
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: could do much better there. And these short passing games

1838
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: the West Coast offense in essence is a good thing,

1839
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: and I think it would also open up our running game.

1840
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: And what I would like to see use more is

1841
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: not all the time, just once in a while. As

1842
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: a little surprise is the no huddle. And I think

1843
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Josh Hallen is if he did his homework in the offseason,

1844
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: he's going to come back a much better quarterback, and

1845
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was bad last year for his

1846
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: first year and that gentleman, I think it's pretty much it,

1847
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: and thank you very much for having me. Thank you, Tom.

1848
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't look for I don't think it'll look anything

1849
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: like a West Coast offensive Bills. What do you think

1850
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: I agree with you? Or if I guess in theory,

1851
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: on paper like, it sounds great, right, that rhythmic passing

1852
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: game and incorporate some no huddle, keep defenses on their toes,

1853
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 1: death by a million paper cuts, whatever you want to

1854
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: call it. But that's just not Josh Allen's strengths. I mean,

1855
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: maybe he does kind of develop into this West Coast

1856
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 1: you know surgeon out there, but what he does really

1857
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: well is throw a deep run, uses athleticism. He has

1858
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: gifts that other quarterbacks don't have. I from the Bills,

1859
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: I want to accentuate those gifts and play to his

1860
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: strengths instead of, you know, try to force that square

1861
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: pag into a round hole. I do think they'll be

1862
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: a different I don't know focus, but at least a

1863
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 1: different element. I'm hoping there's a different element to the

1864
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 1: Bills passing game in terms of short passes right thrown

1865
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: underneath coverage, not having to force the ball downfield all

1866
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: the time. But I don't think it'll be you know,

1867
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: three step drop balls coming out quick passes exclusively. I

1868
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: don't think it will look like that at all. What

1869
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: do you think? I don't think so either. And you know,

1870
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 1: whatever really interested to see two is are they gonna

1871
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: try to like newterway he does best? I mean he's

1872
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: a thousand yard runner. Really yeah, that's he can keep

1873
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 1: defenses on their toes and keep defensive coordinators up at

1874
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: night with his legs. Now, do you want him to

1875
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: play it safe? Do you want him to slide more?

1876
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Do you understand the pocket more? That's gonna be really

1877
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: interesting this training camp to see kind of what the

1878
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: coaching staff wants him to do. If if I'm the Bills, heck,

1879
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm giving him the green light to go, and I'm

1880
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: risking risking all. Yeah, yeah, he might get hurt, but

1881
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: this is what he does well, this is how you

1882
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: can beat teams, and you have a weapon that other

1883
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: teams don't have. Baker Mayfield, you know, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold,

1884
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: they're not doing this kind of stuff. Maybe Lamar Jackson

1885
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: isn't in Baltimore, but you know, I would try to

1886
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: accentuate that that ability that Josh Allen has in every

1887
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Speaker 1: way possible me too. All Right, Tyler Dunn is with us.

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Speaker 1: One hour to gone. When we come back, we're gonna

1889
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Senior Bowl. I know

1890
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Speaker 1: it's in January, but they had a recent scouting seminar

1891
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Speaker 1: for NFL players former NFL players at the Senior Bowl.

1892
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that with our guests. To Jim Nagee,

1893
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Speaker 1: he's executive director of the Senior Bowl. We'll talk with

1894
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Speaker 1: him about some of the Buffalo Bills rookies who are

1895
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: at his game in Mobile last January. Come on back

1896
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Speaker 1: for that. Also, let's get your phone calls. Let's talk

1897
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Speaker 1: more maybe about the Buffalo defense. That's our Twitter poll

1898
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Speaker 1: today where where the Bills take the biggest step forward

1899
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Speaker 1: on defense in twenty nineteen. Let us know what you think.

1900
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Speaker 1: An hour ago, One Bill's Live presented by Kalidah Health

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio

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Speaker 1: Balo Bills Radio Network Stories Update. The update starts with

1903
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Speaker 1: the British Open Round one underway, continuing right now a

1904
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 1: three way tie at the top of the leaderboard. Spaniard

1905
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: John rom Is four under par through thirteen holes at

1906
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Speaker 1: the British Open, Irishman Sean Lowry in the clubhouse at

1907
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: four under he shot at sixty seven today, and US

1908
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Speaker 1: product JB. Holmes four under threw sixteen holes or in

1909
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Speaker 1: the first round of the Open. Rory mckles rory start

1910
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: in his native Northern Ireland couldn't have gone much worse.

1911
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Speaker 1: He went into the tournament as the favorite to win

1912
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Speaker 1: the one hundred forty eight British Open. He eat his

1913
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Speaker 1: t shot on the first hole out of bounds hit

1914
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Speaker 1: a woman cracked the screen of her mobile phone in

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Speaker 1: her pocket. He took a quadruple bogie eight on the

1916
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Speaker 1: first hole, par four four under twenty one yarder Rory

1917
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Speaker 1: McElroy with an inauspicious start Round one of the British Open.

1918
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Speaker 1: NFL News three eight negotiation session was on the schedule

1919
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Speaker 1: for the league in the NFLPA and it ended after

1920
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Speaker 1: a single day according to ESPN, but it's all good.

1921
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Speaker 1: The NFL and the association sent it a joint statement.

1922
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Speaker 1: Today's meeting was productive, constructive and beneficial for both sides. Meetings.

1923
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Speaker 1: Originally we're going to go through Friday. They put it

1924
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Speaker 1: on the table for now, thinking they've got more work

1925
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 1: to do. They'll be back at the bargaining table on

1926
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: July twenty nine. In the league, the Falcons have reached

1927
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: the four year extension with star linebacker Dean Jones, four years,

1928
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: fifty seven million, thirty four million guaranteed. He's a former

1929
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Speaker 1: second round pick from LSU. Deon Jones. Melvin Gordon's comp

1930
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Speaker 1: tract impasses reached a week now, and the Charges running

1931
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: back says teammates and running backs around the league support him.

1932
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: He said he gave some teammates that heads up he

1933
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Speaker 1: threatened to hold out. Says they're all behind me. They've

1934
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Speaker 1: got my back. And the Bison's homestand continues tonight. They're

1935
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Speaker 1: home tonight at seven o'clock against the Charlotte Knights, final

1936
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Speaker 1: game of their four game series. Right in and pitcher

1937
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Speaker 1: Sean Reid Foley puts his three and three record down

1938
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Speaker 1: the mound for the Bisons against Charlotte tonight. And that's

1939
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Speaker 1: the update from One Bill Drive. John Murphy and Tyler

1940
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Speaker 1: Dunn here in studio with us in place of Steve tasker.

1941
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Speaker 1: Steve will be back on Monday. Happy to have you

1942
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Speaker 1: with us, the audience. Happy to have our next guest

1943
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Speaker 1: on the line. We've talked to him before, way back

1944
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Speaker 1: in January. He is the executive director of the Reese's

1945
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl ESPN NFL draft analysts and eighteen years in

1946
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Is a scout with teams like the Patriots

1947
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Speaker 1: in the Seattle Seahawks. Happy to have Jim Nagy on

1948
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Speaker 1: the line with us. Hello, Jim, John Murphy and Tyler

1949
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Speaker 1: down up here in Buffalo. Thank you for joining us today. Yeah, yeah,

1950
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Speaker 1: John and Tyler, thanks for having me on today. We've

1951
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Speaker 1: got a lot to talk to you about. I want

1952
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Speaker 1: to start with the concept that I think it's been

1953
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Speaker 1: going on for a couple of years now, scout school

1954
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Speaker 1: for former NFL players that you run at the Senior Bowl.

1955
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Speaker 1: Tell me what that's all about. You just finished it

1956
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Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks ago, right, Yeah, we sure did,

1957
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Speaker 1: beginning of June. So Phil Savage, my producessors the Senior Bowl,

1958
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Speaker 1: who's now with the Jets. He started this about four

1959
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: or five years ago, and I was living in Mobile

1960
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: at the time, scouting for the Seahawks. And he'd have

1961
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: me come down and speak, and really it drew a

1962
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: lot of guys that were working at the college level

1963
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Speaker 1: on the guy on the recruiting side of things. And

1964
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Speaker 1: I just thought, you during my time in the NFL,

1965
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Speaker 1: I didn't see enough former players, uh, you know, and

1966
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Speaker 1: really minorities getting into the into the profession, and so

1967
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to create something where where you know, really

1968
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 1: start that pipeline. And so this year we we stuck

1969
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: with the same concept, but just open it up to

1970
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: former players and uh it was great, you know, we

1971
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: had we had fifteen guys come down. I actually reached

1972
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 1: out to Dan Morgan, who was a good friend of

1973
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: mine that works up there with with the bills um

1974
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: to come down and speak, but he had something going on.

1975
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Speaker 1: But ended up bringing Bucky Brooks from the NFL Network

1976
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Speaker 1: who was a college scout for a long time, and

1977
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Speaker 1: Tim Tim Terry who was the pro director in Kansas City,

1978
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Speaker 1: and just had a good couple of days, you know,

1979
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Speaker 1: trying to uh, you know, educate the players on on

1980
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Speaker 1: what that next phase of their life could look like,

1981
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: because again, a lot of them get done playing and

1982
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: they a lot of them think coaching and a lot

1983
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: think broadcasting, but um, for whatever reason, a lot don't

1984
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 1: think the personneltside or the front office, uh that front

1985
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: office track. So just just trying to help out there

1986
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Speaker 1: and U you know, hopefully, like I said, great that pipeline. Hey,

1987
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Speaker 1: great to chat with you, Jim, Thanks for coming on. Um,

1988
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Speaker 1: first off, how many Marriott points do you have? Eighteen

1989
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: years of Scott? I am lifetime platinum Elee and uh so, yeah,

1990
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Speaker 1: when I took the Senior Bowl gig, I've been in

1991
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Speaker 1: eighteen years and I looked on my Marriott profile. I've

1992
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Speaker 1: been in just in Marriott hotels over nine of those years.

1993
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh. When people ask me why I you know,

1994
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Speaker 1: I jumped to the Senior Bowl job, and I can

1995
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Speaker 1: just kind of point to my Marriott profile. So yeah,

1996
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Speaker 1: I'm like, and they can't take it away, Like I've

1997
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Speaker 1: I'm the top two percent of the of the Marriott

1998
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: people and I got that. I got that for life now,

1999
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: because I imagine that's that's probably the eye opener for

2000
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 1: these these players, right the lifestyle. But you can just

2001
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 1: kind of give us a look into the life of

2002
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 1: a scout that I mean, I think maybe a lot

2003
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: of folks don't really understand just the commitment that really

2004
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 1: goes into this profession. It's unlike anything. Yeah, not real glamorous,

2005
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of people do. And again,

2006
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: working in the NFL is great, don't get me wrong,

2007
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: but it is a lot of sacrifice. And again, I

2008
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, I knew I wanted to scout from the

2009
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 1: time I was a little kid. But when you think

2010
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: about it, you're thinking about it through you know, a

2011
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 1: twelve year old's eyes or an eighteen year old eyes,

2012
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: and then in college, but you don't really think of it.

2013
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: You're in your forties and you have a wife and

2014
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: two kids, and you're you're gone all the time, and um,

2015
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of sacrifice involved in it. And again, uh,

2016
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Speaker 1: you know, you're staying in a lot of courtyards and

2017
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 1: fair fields, and you know, typically you're out for a

2018
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks at a time, at home for two

2019
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: or three days, and and that's kind of your cycle

2020
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 1: through the fall. And then uh, you know, in January

2021
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 1: it's the All Star circuit, and then February is combined

2022
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 1: and marches Pro Days and you know April is leading

2023
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: up to the draft. So it's uh, it's a hectic,

2024
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 1: year long schedule. Um. And you know, people used to

2025
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: ask me, oh, you know, do you love what you do?

2026
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: And I used to tell you you definitely love what

2027
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: you do, because if you didn't, it wouldn't be worth doing.

2028
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, I would think that that

2029
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: that schedule, that lifestyle might turn off some former players, right,

2030
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean they might not be interested to being a

2031
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: scout when they hear about that. Yeah, And and truly

2032
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: that depends on really how long they've played and how

2033
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: much money they put away. Because again, I know, if

2034
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: I know, if I played, you know, a bunch of

2035
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: years in the league and I had a nice nest egg,

2036
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd do it either. But um, well,

2037
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of guys, a lot of former

2038
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: players tend to more go on the pro side of things,

2039
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: so that the travel and that is less, um far

2040
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,560
Speaker 1: less actually, and you know, you're in the building, so

2041
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: those guys are used to being around it. And you know,

2042
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 1: if if you're a pro scout like Dan Morgan came

2043
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 1: up on the pro side and uh not, those jobs

2044
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: are are labor intensive as well, Don't get me wrong.

2045
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're in the office, you know, late late,

2046
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: late at night, a lot of nights a week. But

2047
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: uh yeah, just being in your car and driving around

2048
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: the country. That's uh. You don't see as many former

2049
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: players on the college side. Yeah, because I was gonna say,

2050
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: like bashing your bodies for you know, years and years.

2051
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are probably ready to settle down

2052
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: with their families a little bit and and get into

2053
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: a more regular schedule. Is that kind of maybe the

2054
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: big leap that former players have to have to make

2055
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: to become scouts. And on the flip side, you know,

2056
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: what kind of advantage does a former player really have

2057
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: as a scout? Yeah, I think you're right. I think

2058
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: that I think there's an assumption on the team from

2059
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: the team's perspective. A lot is that you know, these

2060
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: guys have played and they're used to live in a

2061
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: certain lifestyle. Now, will they you know, drop down and

2062
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: take the money, will take to you know, accept the

2063
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 1: money that it would take to be become an entry

2064
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: level scout and work your way up. And that's why,

2065
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, my hat's always off to do. A guy

2066
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: like dan Is not only did he play in the league,

2067
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,799
Speaker 1: he was one he was one of the best players

2068
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: in the league. He was, you know, a first round pick.

2069
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: And I mean one year when I was working for

2070
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots, we played the Panthers in the Super Bowl

2071
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: and Dan had twenty three tackles in that game. And

2072
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 1: had they had they won the game, he probably would

2073
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: have been the VP. And here he has taken an

2074
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 1: entry level pro scouting gig and working his way up

2075
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: from the bottom. So, um, you'll always have a ton

2076
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: of respect for Dan for doing that. But UM, you know,

2077
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: the one advantage I would say that they've you know,

2078
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: one of the advantages is that you know that they've

2079
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: been around the game. They know the sacrifice it takes.

2080
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: So like if you were a former player, um, and

2081
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 1: you were a cole on the college side of things,

2082
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: m one, it's it's you know, the grind that those

2083
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 1: kids are putting in. I mean, it's really easy for

2084
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:23,560
Speaker 1: people that have never played to sit back and be

2085
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 1: critical of of college players at times, and you know,

2086
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: the whole talk about them being paid or not. Would

2087
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: you really understand what these kids and the sacrifice they're making,

2088
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: especially at these you know, at these big time football programs. Um,

2089
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,599
Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's a lot, and you know, it's

2090
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 1: so you know, they've all been there, and then when

2091
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: you get down to after the draft and you get

2092
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: into the whole um. You know, really the only element

2093
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: of recruiting in the NFL is when you recruit those

2094
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 1: undrafted college free agents, and those guys can end up.

2095
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean in Seattle, we Doug Balls was, Doug Baldon

2096
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 1: was an undrafted free agents. Sometimes those guys really make

2097
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 1: your roster, and uh, you know, to be a former player,

2098
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's easy for those guys to

2099
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 1: make those relationships sometimes. So I see a lot of

2100
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: benefit in it. I hope that I hope we can

2101
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 1: start making some strides with the Scout School. Jim, we're

2102
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,679
Speaker 1: talking about a little bit about Dan Morgan, the Bill's

2103
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Scout now and I had a conversation with him about

2104
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: those early days in Seattle. In fact, I know where

2105
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: we were. We were in Mobile at the Senior Bowl

2106
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: back in January, and it struck me then how there's

2107
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: a certain selflessness that you have to have when you

2108
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: get started right. And look, he was fortunate coming off

2109
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: the field as a player. He had obviously some money,

2110
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 1: didn't have to make money right away. But you also

2111
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 1: have to be ready to kind of surrender your ego

2112
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: and take people to the airport, as you said, and

2113
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,759
Speaker 1: do all the you know, grab coffee for the other scouts.

2114
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: It didn't seem to bother him. He almost intuitively knew

2115
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: that that's what he was going to have to do

2116
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 1: at first to get into that business. Huh. Yeah, there's

2117
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, you come in at that level

2118
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: and you are you're doing a lot of the quote

2119
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: unquote menial tasks. But it's it's again that's where I

2120
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: think player understand that because even as a player, you know,

2121
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, unless you're a first round pick or second

2122
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,560
Speaker 1: round pick and you're coming in with a little fanfare,

2123
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, all those rookies start at the bottom. You know.

2124
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 1: It's a humbling deal to come in as a rookie,

2125
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: and it doesn't take place as much as it used

2126
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: to um with the hazing and anything. I don't even

2127
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: know if any team to do that anymore. But there's

2128
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: still the little stuff, you know, carrying the guy's pads

2129
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 1: off the practice field and bringing donuts, you know, to

2130
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 1: to your position meetings, you know, every day. So I mean,

2131
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: you do you start at the bottom at that level,

2132
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 1: so they know, but it is it's a lot of

2133
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: kind of got to check the ego. And again, if

2134
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: if you're getting into scouting to think it's some glamorous thing,

2135
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're you're just parking up the wrong tree,

2136
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: because um, you know it's it's it's it's really not

2137
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: about that. Again, if you're in scouting that you don't

2138
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: want credit, right, I mean, it's they're they're all group efforts.

2139
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: When you make draft picks or you sign free agents,

2140
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: it's really a group effort. So I think I think

2141
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: where it would appeal to former players is they're all

2142
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: used to being part of a team and they're all

2143
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 1: used to having that camaraderie of the of being around

2144
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 1: the guys. And if you worked for the right team

2145
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: and your your GM's the right kind of guy, and

2146
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: like a culture center like John Schneider is in Seattle,

2147
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: like you do. It's nothing will ever compare to the

2148
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: locker room. But there is a camaraderie in a brotherhood,

2149
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, in the scouting ranks. That's pretty cool. But

2150
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,719
Speaker 1: Jim Nagi is executive director of the Senior Bowl. Eighteen

2151
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 1: years as a scout in the National Football League talking

2152
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 1: about his annual scout school at the Senior Bowl in Mobile.

2153
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 1: I would imagine you are right now almost midway through

2154
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: your offseason, right, because just like the NFL teams, once

2155
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: the colleges get going again, Jim, the Senior Bowl scouts

2156
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,759
Speaker 1: get going again. You included, right, Yeah, we're we're cranking

2157
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 1: back up. So, um, I had a pretty flawed business

2158
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: model last year with my first year in the UH

2159
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 1: is sitting at the Senior Bowl chair, we uh, you know,

2160
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 1: I hired four former NFL scouts in this past offseason

2161
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 1: for the first time. They've never really done it that way.

2162
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: And there's there are guys that I trusted that I

2163
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: know they know what they're looking at and they can

2164
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: find players, and they're they're well connected, and they're guys

2165
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 1: that got let go by their teams last year after

2166
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 1: the draft, you know, kind of got caught in the

2167
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 1: cross airs of a regime change. And that's going to happen.

2168
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're not good at what they do.

2169
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 1: So you know, we brought them into the fold last

2170
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 1: year and help to help us out, and they all

2171
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 1: got jobs back in the NFL. And the two guys

2172
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 1: that had were two young guys in the office got

2173
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 1: jobs in the NFL, so I've had to completely restaffed

2174
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: this offseason. But the nice thing is this was last

2175
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 1: year we didn't I got hired in June, so we

2176
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: really didn't even have an off season. So we're we're

2177
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 1: way further ahead than we were a year ago. And yeah,

2178
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm just leaving. I'm driving home from SEC Media Days

2179
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: right now, and it's it's amazing. Got some recruiting in,

2180
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 1: went up there and met with all the players that

2181
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,839
Speaker 1: were up there and kind of did a little recruiting.

2182
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: So we're much further ahead than we were a year ago.

2183
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 1: Did you can I ask you about some of the

2184
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 1: players the Bills have on the roster who participated in

2185
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl last year. We saw some of them

2186
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: down there when we were doing coverage of the Senior Bowl.

2187
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: But Bill's got a seventh round pick tight end from

2188
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Boston College, Tommy Sweeney, who had he was at the

2189
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Um, what do you recall about him going

2190
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 1: in and that week down there in Mobile? Yeah, Tommy,

2191
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: Tommy's a really solid, really solid player. So like for

2192
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick, he's really safe. Sometimes those guys

2193
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 1: are on the you know, they're a little bit on

2194
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: the borderline. And I think Tommy is a great pick

2195
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: because I think he's got a ceiling to be a

2196
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: really good number two tight end in the league. And

2197
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 1: usually a lot of times those guys, those guys going

2198
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,640
Speaker 1: like the fourth or fifth. So I think they got

2199
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 1: really good value in Tommy. You know what you're gonna

2200
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: get from him. He's really mister deependable. He can block

2201
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: and you know, and he's really an underrated pass catcher.

2202
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 1: So the biggest thing for him is finding tight ends

2203
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: to come out of the college game right now that

2204
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: can actually put their hand in the dirt and movie

2205
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 1: with the line of scrimmage. They're getting really, really hard

2206
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: to find. So that's why I thought Tommy would be

2207
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: more of a you know, fourth or fifth round type

2208
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 1: of player. So for the Bills to sit there in

2209
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: the seventh and and take Tommy there, I think that

2210
01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: if he comes in as the third tight end to

2211
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 1: year um, you know, I think it's only a matter

2212
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: of time before you know, just his dependability and the

2213
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: type of kiddy is, he's really an awesome guy. I

2214
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 1: think that'll win that staff over and they'll feel really

2215
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: comfortable moving forward with him as their as their number two.

2216
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, and do I have this right?

2217
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 1: I think I recall this. Dawson Knox Buffalo's a third

2218
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 1: round tight end. He was scheduling over of the Senior Bowl, right,

2219
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: but got hurt. He couldn't he couldn't practice or play

2220
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: down there, right. Yeah, So Dawson was a junior, um

2221
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: and we can bring juniors to the Senior Bowl now

2222
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 1: if they have their if they have their diploma by December,

2223
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: which Dawson did. And uh, you know, we we had

2224
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 1: some we'd had some talk to Dawson and uh through

2225
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 1: some agents and whatnot, and uh, we were we would

2226
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 1: have loved to have him. He was one of my

2227
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: favorite guys in last year's draft, and then he had

2228
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: to have the hernia surgery. So that was a that

2229
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 1: was a big time bummer for us, because, um, I'm

2230
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: a huge believer in Dawson's ability. You know. T J.

2231
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 1: Hopkinson went I think number eight over all the Detroit Lions,

2232
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 1: and I didn't seem very much difference between the two players,

2233
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 1: and you got your guy in the third round. In

2234
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 1: the line spent a top ten pick on Theirs and

2235
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 1: I think Hawkinson's a great player, So I'm not knocking

2236
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 1: that pick, but I'm just saying I think Golfson knocks

2237
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 1: has the ability to be of, you know, pretty much

2238
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: the same guy at the next level. That's really interesting.

2239
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 1: You know, I definitely wanted to ask you, Jim about

2240
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson. I mean, just being here in Western New York,

2241
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: A lot of us watched him at UB I mean

2242
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 1: the size, the arm, the running ability, I mean, all

2243
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: these raw gifts, raw tools. It just seemed like he

2244
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 1: was somebody that would get drafted, you know, maybe even

2245
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 1: in the mid rounds. I don't know, like why how

2246
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: did he go undrafted? I mean, what are some knocks,

2247
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: what are some potential issues you see with him? And

2248
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: and how does he project in the NFL. He's here

2249
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: in Buffalo again, Yeah, he was. That was one of

2250
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 1: the biggest head scratchers for me. So, just like anything,

2251
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, you try to self scout yourself and you know,

2252
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: evaluate where you're at after the draft. You know, we

2253
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 1: had ninety three players drafted this year, which was ended

2254
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 1: up being like thirty seven percent of the draft came

2255
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: through Mobile this year's which were a number. We're very

2256
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: proud of and Tyree's one of the only ones that

2257
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 1: didn't go. So when he you know, he kind of

2258
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 1: took us off guard last year when he when he declared,

2259
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 1: when he declared to come out, and we'd already invited

2260
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: eight quarterbacks. But you know, I looked at his tape

2261
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: and I thought he's gonna be a mid round guy,

2262
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 1: really intriguing with all the fiscal talent. And again, part

2263
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: of it is, you know, these rosters aren't for the

2264
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 1: NFL teams. It's not for us. You know, I'm just

2265
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,680
Speaker 1: trying to give the NFL the players they want to see.

2266
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: So I made a bunch of calls around the league,

2267
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 1: and you know, really the consensus on Tyree was as

2268
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: high as the third round and you know, fourth or

2269
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: fifth usually um was the numbers I was getting back.

2270
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: So I don't think Tyree made a bad decision on

2271
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 1: the feedback he was probably getting. And I really thought

2272
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 1: he had a nice spring, Like that's the thing. If

2273
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 1: he would have come to the Senior Bowl and just

2274
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 1: bombed or you know, but he didn't. He he had

2275
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: a good week. I mean, he was MVP for his

2276
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 1: team in the game. He did some really nice things

2277
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: in the game and then he goes to the combine

2278
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: and runs fast and as you guys know, he's got

2279
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 1: a host for an arm. So I just and he's

2280
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 1: a great kid. You know, he's got he's got a

2281
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 1: ton of personality and he's really a good guy off

2282
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: the field. So that one I still don't know. I still,

2283
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, haven't got a real clear answer on why.

2284
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 1: But I think once you get past like the fourth

2285
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,839
Speaker 1: and fifth round, there's just not a lot of quarterback

2286
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 1: to go. I think a lot of teams just wait

2287
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 1: and you know, roll the dice and those guys the

2288
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 1: last the free agency, and you know, I'm kind of

2289
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: happy for Tyree that he that, you know, once it

2290
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 1: got to the sixth or seven, kind of happy for

2291
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 1: him that he didn't get drafted because then he can,

2292
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, he could determine his own fate and to

2293
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: stay in Buffalo and uh, you know, work with Brian

2294
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Dayball and the Bills and backing up Josh Allen. I

2295
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 1: think they're very similar players. You know, they're both big

2296
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: athletic guys that can run and have some really strong arms.

2297
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:43,919
Speaker 1: So I know, when I was working for the Seahawks,

2298
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,560
Speaker 1: we always had trouble finding a backup that kind of

2299
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: mirrored Russell Wilson's skill set. You you always want that

2300
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:51,520
Speaker 1: as a team so you don't have to change offensively

2301
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 1: if if the starter goes down. And I think that

2302
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 1: over time, as Tyreek and you know, earn that number

2303
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 1: two job, whether it's this year or next year, that's

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01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: a great situation for Buffalo to be in because he

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01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: and Josh are pretty similar. I wonder as a scout

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01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 1: Jim is a number two as a backup? Is that

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01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: the ceiling for Tyree Jackson or could there be more

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01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: for him in his NFL career? Well, anyone that Scott

2309
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: though his physical talents um you never want to you

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01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: never want to put a limit on it because again

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01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: he is a big athletic. What did you run four

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01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 1: or five nine or something for a big six six

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01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 1: six seven guy? And again he can throw it through

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01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: a wall. So you know, Tyree's thing is everything. Thing

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01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 1: that I noticed when they came down to Mobile and

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01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 1: played in a Duller General Bowl, Buffalo did and the

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01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 1: thing that I noticed is he really was a one

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01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 1: pitch guy. He threw a lot of fastballs and so

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01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: what Tyree, and that's not that's not atypical. There's a

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01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 1: lot of college quarterbacks that you know that that's what

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01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 1: they've gotten their arsenal. I remember a friend of mine

2322
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: was playing tight end and filly years ago when Dono

2323
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: McNabb got drafted, and I remember talking to him on

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01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: the phone and he said, Man, this rookie all he

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01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 1: just throws. He just you know, throws lasers at me

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01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: all the time. So I think that if Tyree can

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01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: learn some of the touch throws and taking something off

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01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 1: it and then just you know, tighten up the accuracy

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01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, there's no telling how good he can be.

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01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 1: Because he does. He's got a lot of things that

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01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 1: you can't coach, and that's why I thought he'd get drafted,

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01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 1: because he just has some of those things that no

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: matter how much time you spend with him, I mean,

2334
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 1: you can't develop him in the size and the arm.

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01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 1: A couple of minutes left with Jim Naggi, executive director

2336
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl. Bill's had another Day three draft

2337
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: pick who spent time in mobile with you at the

2338
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Jakwan Johnson, the safety from Miami. What do

2339
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: you recall about him going into that game and how

2340
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: did he fare in the week of practices down there, Yeah,

2341
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 1: he Jaquan did really well. Really good football player, So

2342
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 1: he was one of the He was one of the

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01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 1: guys that his safety's coach at Miami actually reached out

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01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 1: to me when we were putting the rosters together and

2345
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 1: was like like pleading, pleading for us to take the

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01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Quan because he says he's his favorite player he'd ever coached,

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01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 1: said he was the best practice player he'd ever coached.

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01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: So I knew that the entail jibles were there, you know,

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01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 1: and you put on the tape. He's got a lot

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01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,879
Speaker 1: of playmaking ability. He's kind of a new wave safety

2351
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 1: in the sense that you always used to get corners,

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01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, corners that had some nickel flexibility where they

2353
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 1: could move inside, and over the last four or five years,

2354
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot more free safeties now that can actually

2355
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: come down and cover that slot. And I think that's

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01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: where Jaquan is most comfortable is in that nickel role.

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01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: And again, if he were like a six two, two

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01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen pound guy, he would be a heck

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01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 1: of a strong safety because that's where he does a

2360
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 1: lot of good work. Even in run support. The closer

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01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmagey is he has. I think

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01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:36,679
Speaker 1: he had eight tackles in the Senior Bowl game last

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01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: year and it was all him, just like because he's

2364
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 1: got really good eyes. So it's him like diagnosing plays

2365
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 1: and just starting behind the line of scrimmage and making plays.

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01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: So you know, they've got a guy that's going to

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01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 1: play on special teams. They've got a guy that can

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01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 1: back up at nickel and safety, and you know, and

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01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: he's a high, high character guy. So again to me,

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01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 1: where they got him, that's a really safe pick. You

2371
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 1: get into those later rounds sometimes it's oh, you know,

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01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 1: he might be a practice squad guy. But like with

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01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: Tommy and Jaquan, I'd be shocked if those guys weren't

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01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 1: on their fifty three men roster. Yeah. One more for

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01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: you here too. I mean, David Sills, you're talking what

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01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 1: thirty three touchdowns the last last two years in college.

2377
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: I know it's West Virginia, and you know, sometimes those

2378
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: numbers get skewed. I think back to Geno Smith. I mean,

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01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 1: what do you throw for like eighty ninety touchdowns in

2380
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: a season? I felt like, but uh, you know, how

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01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 1: do he kind of go undraft. It seems like he

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01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:28,599
Speaker 1: could be somebody maybe that's a dark horse to make

2383
01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 1: the team here and and factor into things. Yeah, no

2384
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 1: question that David. David had really good tape at the

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01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Like you talked about the touchdowns, you

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01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 1: really you really did have a nice knack of converting

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01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: when they got close. And I think the reason like

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01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 1: calling around the teams, you know, doing my homework, trying

2389
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: to trying to make my make us get better at

2390
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, like why didn't this gig get picked?

2391
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,560
Speaker 1: And it made sense once they said it. You know,

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01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: if you look at it from a team's perspective, you know,

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01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,559
Speaker 1: if a guy projects to be a fourth or fifth

2394
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 1: receiver in the league, he's really got to play in

2395
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 1: the kicking game. And I think the team's just had

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01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 1: a hard time envisioning David where his body's at right now,

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01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: going out there and running down on punt team or

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01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: run down on kickoff coverage. So I think there's a

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01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 1: little more there's a little more developmental aspect to David

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01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 1: just from a physical stature standpoint. You know, he's just

2401
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 1: get in the weight room, get thicker, gets stronger again.

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01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Receivers aren't really asked to play special teams in college,

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01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: especially when you're as good as David was. But that's

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01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of his game moving forward.

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01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to prove to the Bills that, you know,

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01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 1: if they bring into the game on Sundays, that he

2407
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 1: can that he can run down and tackle people. You know.

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01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: So it had nothing to do with his receiver skill set.

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01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: It had everything to do with special teams. Hey, Jim,

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01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: thanks for this. I know we kept you a while today,

2411
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 1: but Senior Bowls one of the my favorite events on

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01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: the NFL Canada. It's only six months away and we'll

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01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 1: be there before we know it. Thanks for spending a

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01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 1: few minutes with us here today. No, I appreciate you

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01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 1: guys having me on. And I know that Buffalo is

2416
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: such an awesome fan base, and I just want to

2417
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: tell the people out there that, you know, in terms

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01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: of if you're a diehard football fan, it is it

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01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 1: is truly an awesome week in terms of our practice

2420
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 1: week and our players being accessible and you really get

2421
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 1: immersed in the NFL culture for a week. I mean,

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01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 1: it's a small town environment. You've got nine hundred NFL

2423
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 1: dudes in town. So, um, you know, I don't know

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01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: if we've marketed our game to the fans enough, and

2425
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: I really want to start doing that because it should

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01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 1: be like the ultimate guys weekend if you're if you're

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01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 1: a diehard football fan, it's a great week I like that.

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01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,759
Speaker 1: In fact, I used to tell your predecessor, Phil Savage,

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01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 1: how I love the Senior Bowl for the fact that

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01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 1: it turns the page from last season to the next season.

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01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 1: That's where it starts right there. It's it's perfect for that. Yeah, well, thanks, guys,

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01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: I'll come on anytime. Thanks. Jim Jim Nagi is executive

2433
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: director of the Reese's Senior Bowl and a NFL draft

2434
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: analysts on ESPN eighteen years. Is an NFL scout as

2435
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: pretty good handle on the players he's got there at

2436
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and man Dawson Knox comparable to Hockinson

2437
01:54:55,560 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 1: to out. Yeah that whoa look good in the mini

2438
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 1: camp so far. But that's good. That gives us something

2439
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 1: to look for a training camp. Now the Bills getting

2440
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 1: set for training camp. We'll be there a week from today.

2441
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: First practices a week from today and a couple of

2442
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 1: weeks after that. It is the first preseason game, So

2443
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 1: that makes it three weeks from today. The first preseason

2444
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: game Thursday, August eight, preseason matchup against the Indianapolis Colts,

2445
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 1: and the Bills announced that that's going to be the

2446
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 1: eighteenth Kids' Day game for the Buffalo Bills. They'll kick

2447
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 1: it off against the Colts at seven o'clock. Special ticket

2448
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 1: pricing starts at just seventeen dollars. Going to have food trucks,

2449
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: activities for kids and everyone to enjoy before the game.

2450
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: So go to our website Buffalo Bills dot com for

2451
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 1: more information Kids Day, the Kids' Day game, special Kids

2452
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 1: Day tailgate in Lot six coming up that day too.

2453
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August eight, when the Bills line up

2454
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 1: and open up the preseason against the Colts. Tyler dunn

2455
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 1: is with us here for the rest of the hour.

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01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: Come on back One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

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01:55:50,880 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live from

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01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. John Murphy with Tyler Dunne from Bleacher Report.

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01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: What year were you on the Bills beat? Tyler, refresh

2460
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: my memory if you will, Rex Ryan's first year. There's

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01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot going on that year. Yeah, that was fun.

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01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: For a while. Well, it was fun at our job.

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01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: You ever knew what was going to happen week to week? Yeah,

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01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah. Do you think Rex will be coaching

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01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: again some day in the NFL? Who I think he'd

2466
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 1: like to I don't think he will ever. Really, I

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01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think I ran its course, but

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01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Who knows to be a coordinator? First? Right? Yeah,

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01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 1: that would be the first step. Tyler Dunn is with

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01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 1: us in place of Steve. We got our topic. Let's

2471
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 1: recheck the Twitter pole, which we haven't done in a while.

2472
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 1: We're asking about the Buffalo defense, which always you can appreciate,

2473
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 1: this always gets about one fifth the amount of attention

2474
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 1: as a Twitter pole question as anything anything having to

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01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 1: do with quarterback Josh Allen. Another words, the easy play

2476
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: here is do you think Josh Allen can jump over

2477
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 1: tall buildings? We'd get thousands of responses today, what's the

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01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 1: bill's best step forward on defense? In twenty nineteen we

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01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 1: got about a thousand responses. We're looking for phone calls

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01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight

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01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty, looking for tweets. We'll

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01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 1: get back to the tweet sheet. In a moment on

2483
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 1: the Twitter Pole, to simple vote the Bill's best step

2484
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:23,760
Speaker 1: forward on defense this year. Forty two percent say more sacks,

2485
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 1: twenty nine percent say more turnovers, twenty five percent say

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01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 1: better in the red zone, four percent say something else. Actually,

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01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 1: by Twitter Pole standards, Tyler's that's pretty balanced. That's not

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01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 1: two one sided, which is good. I like when people

2489
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 1: think about it a little bit, maybe go a little

2490
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: bit off off topic. Tweet sheet brought to you by

2491
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills.

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01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 1: They were out here today. I think getting ready to

2493
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 1: move the team down to Rochester next week. Jeremiah tweets

2494
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 1: this and more sacks, Trent Oliver, Trent Murphy, Oliver and

2495
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: Hughes are going to be impossible to stop in twenty nineteen.

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01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 1: Well we'll see there you have it, Yeah, Jeremiah thinks.

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01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 1: Steve tweets this and I voted other. I think playing

2498
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 1: better against the run will be their biggest step. I'm

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01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 1: hoping that last year's Colts game is not the blueprint

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01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 1: teams use against us, because they gashed us big time

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01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 1: with the run game. Yeah, I remember that. I saw

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01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 1: that that was a disappointing game maybe one of the

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01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 1: low lights for the Bills that game at Indianapolis. And finally,

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01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet from Jack says, they didn't get

2505
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 1: many sacks last season. Pressure was there, but they struggled

2506
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 1: to get home. Growth in the secondary from number two

2507
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 1: and a nickel cornerback, more experience from Milano and Edmonds

2508
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 1: will help in coverage and allow more time for defensive

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01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: linemen to get to the quarterback. Hopefully Oliver provides better

2510
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: interior your pass rush. Also, I said earlier Tyler, and

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01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 1: I know you don't have the roster in front of

2512
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 1: you or the depth chart, but is there any spot

2513
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 1: defensively that you would look at as who's going to

2514
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 1: play for the Bills going into the training camp next week?

2515
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean, where's the opening? Is there an opening on defense?

2516
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: Easy one is that Oliver? But I think I think

2517
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 1: he'll play and he'll be part of the rotation point.

2518
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 1: When was the last time you could really say that,

2519
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's second cornerback opposite probably that probably that

2520
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 1: second corner which I mean, that's the strength of this team,

2521
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: the strength of this head coach. I mean he can

2522
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 1: coach up cornerbacks, probably as well as anybody in the NFL.

2523
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look what Levi Wallace did last year and

2524
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 1: an undrafted guy that nobody wanted, so I guess that position.

2525
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 1: But I mean the defense shouldn't be a problem wherever

2526
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 1: you look for this team. I mean, there really aren't

2527
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: any glaring holes, glaring weaknesses. They really did kind of

2528
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 1: tear it down to build it back up with the

2529
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 1: players and their image for their defense year three of

2530
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 1: the regime, and now this is when you even want

2531
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 1: to see another step. That's why I liked this question.

2532
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they were really good last year defensively, but

2533
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 1: if to win the way that Sean McDermott wants to win,

2534
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: they have to be great, right, I mean, they have

2535
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 1: to be next level. They have to lean on their defense.

2536
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 1: Even with improvements and additions on offense, with a better

2537
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 1: receiving corps, with the second year for Josh, with obviously

2538
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 1: a stacked running back room, let's face it, they're going

2539
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 1: to lean on their defense, right. I would think that's

2540
02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 1: the strength of the team totally. And you know, I

2541
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 1: think the players just understand the scheme you mentioned Rex

2542
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 1: Ryan earlier a lot better than the players ever understood

2543
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 1: the scheme with Rex Ryan. I mean to the last day.

2544
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, people didn't know if Rob Ryan was running it,

2545
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:19,800
Speaker 1: if Rex Ryan was running it, and issues all over

2546
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 1: the place. You know, players on running on and off

2547
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 1: the field, too much, thinking, too much overthinking going on

2548
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 1: out there. This is a defense that doesn't require that overthinking.

2549
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 1: And now you have players that have been in the

2550
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 1: scheme for a little while bringing in some young guys

2551
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, they should absolutely take the next step.

2552
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 1: That should be the expectation anyways, to be a top

2553
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:41,920
Speaker 1: five defense, maybe a top three defense, and to get

2554
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. As Adam Rank was saying earlier, I

2555
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:48,040
Speaker 1: mean that's probably what they need. Yeah, Tyler Down is

2556
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 1: with us until three o'clock today, back tomorrow for more

2557
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 1: of the show. I want to ask you how this

2558
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 1: item in the news today and we've had it on

2559
02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:56,760
Speaker 1: our updates the meetings. It was supposed to be a

2560
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: three and negotiation between the league and the players Association.

2561
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 1: They did one day. They put big topics on the table,

2562
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,360
Speaker 1: more work to be done, sources say. The next set

2563
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 1: of negotiations schedule to start July twenty ninth, which is

2564
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 1: what a week and a half a day away. That'll

2565
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: be another three day session. They broke after one day

2566
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 1: because they said there was information they needed to take

2567
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:20,960
Speaker 1: back and discuss further with owners. The collective Bargaining Agreement

2568
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 1: doesn't expire, not after this season, but after the twenty

2569
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 1: twenty season. Maybe I'm naive here. I think this is

2570
02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 1: a good sign that they're talking now about it now.

2571
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:33,960
Speaker 1: Well let's start with that. Isn't this a good sign

2572
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 1: they're not waiting until the guns that everybody's had to

2573
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 1: get talks going on the CBA right right deadline spur action,

2574
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 1: as Andrew Brann always says, So this will go to

2575
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 1: the end one way or another. But I mean, it

2576
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 1: has to be a good sign that they're at least

2577
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,240
Speaker 1: sitting out at the table and talking about these things.

2578
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 1: They be They better start now because there's gonna be

2579
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: a lot of issues to discuss, and the players I've

2580
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 1: talked to around the NFL that they want to get

2581
02:01:57,240 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 1: these discussions going soon. It's like, why, I would you

2582
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 1: just wait if you can start trying to get the

2583
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 1: ball rolling one way or another. Now, there's going to

2584
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 1: be some postering. I think we saw that last week

2585
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:11,720
Speaker 1: with this U I think insane idea for an eighteen

2586
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 1: game schedule where players would play sixteen games. I mean,

2587
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: the season, pretty bad quarterback play out there, and fantasy

2588
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:22,200
Speaker 1: football owners might be, you know, jumping in niagrapha we

2589
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 1: called at the Tasker plan. On the show Steven and

2590
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 1: a year ago started talking about that. I did, I

2591
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:29,080
Speaker 1: think it's insane. It's it's I think it's a slap

2592
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:31,480
Speaker 1: in the face to any ticket purchase. It is a really,

2593
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, absolutely more than a slap in the face.

2594
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 1: I think it'd be I think it'd be awful. But

2595
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: the NFL probably knows that too. But they can say, now,

2596
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 1: all right, well we'll take that off the table, but

2597
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 1: you got to give us this. So there's gonna be

2598
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of this game's been shipped from here on out. Um.

2599
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 1: One thing that may or may not be on the table,

2600
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 1: which we talked about briefly this morning we were talking

2601
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 1: with you, is we were talking about what, look, the

2602
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 1: players have leverage their leverages to withhold their services, which

2603
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:01,880
Speaker 1: could happen not next offseason, but the following off season,

2604
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 1: so other it doesn't really behoove them. You would think

2605
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:08,720
Speaker 1: to rush towards an agreement unless they get something big.

2606
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 1: That's something big could be guaranteed contracts. Talking to Steve

2607
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,120
Speaker 1: Tasker over the last week or so, he said something

2608
02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:16,320
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he even said it on

2609
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:17,880
Speaker 1: the air, but he said that would be the one

2610
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 1: thing that might force players into saying, Okay, we'll do

2611
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:23,520
Speaker 1: a deal now. Guaranteed contracts. Is that and crazy to

2612
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:26,360
Speaker 1: think they could ever get that. I mean, you're having

2613
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 1: another sports. This isn't a league where everybody gets hurt.

2614
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:34,200
Speaker 1: There's plenty of money to do it. But I don't know,

2615
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 1: what do you think that might be a deal breaker

2616
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:39,400
Speaker 1: right for players? Oh? Shoot, guaranteed contracts will take that right,

2617
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I would think that the handshake, the

2618
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: hand would be out for the handshake, Yeah, instantly, and

2619
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:46,840
Speaker 1: it would be good as done. I mean, I just

2620
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 1: can't see that happening. I just cannot see guarantee contracts

2621
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:52,720
Speaker 1: because it's never happened. That is just h yeah. That,

2622
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 1: but it's it's a different game than that, than basketball,

2623
02:03:56,680 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 1: than baseball. And it's just the physicality, the injuries all

2624
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 1: of that. In football, I think the teams and owners

2625
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 1: don't want to give that leverage to the players. Where, Okay,

2626
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 1: this guaranteed contract, where's there's the incentive to just play

2627
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 1: on an ankle that hurts. Everybody's hurt during the football season,

2628
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,600
Speaker 1: right one way or another. You're hurt, you're hurt, you're injured,

2629
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 1: you're something. And if that money is guaranteed, you're going

2630
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 1: to see a lot more nursing of injuries. It's human nature.

2631
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 1: I just think that that's something that the owners, absolutely,

2632
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 1: I think, something to look into. And again I see

2633
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: how owners wouldn't would fight it at first. But if look,

2634
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 1: they're making so much money, and if you guarantee those

2635
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:35,800
Speaker 1: owners no workstoppage, No, you don't have to do a lockout,

2636
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 1: and we're not going to strike, and you can negotiate

2637
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 1: your TV deals and rake in more money, give us

2638
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 1: guaranteed contracts. That's pretty compelling and argument to at least

2639
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 1: look at it. They should get it. I mean, I

2640
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: think that they should get guaranteed contracts and the sport absolutely.

2641
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,720
Speaker 1: I just I can't see the owner's budget. All right,

2642
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: I hope you're wrong. Hey, time now for NFL two

2643
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 1: or False Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

2644
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:58,600
Speaker 1: artists and Cheese we go through a couple of topics

2645
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 1: on the table in the NFL. Here's the proposal from

2646
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:06,400
Speaker 1: the Ringer dot Com, a competitor a bleacher report clearly

2647
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 1: not nearly in their league. So it's the sixteen game

2648
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:13,760
Speaker 1: play eighteen game schedule that's been thrown out there by

2649
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 1: the commissioner. How about this, instead of adding games, the

2650
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:19,720
Speaker 1: NFL should have two bye weeks? True? False? What do

2651
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:23,320
Speaker 1: you think I'm gonna say? True? I'm gonna says two

2652
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:26,520
Speaker 1: bye weeks. This is a brutal game that as we

2653
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:28,760
Speaker 1: just we're talking about, I mean, you can you can

2654
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: bang up every part of your body, your brain being

2655
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 1: number one that I mean you need, you need time

2656
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:36,800
Speaker 1: to recover. It's these quick turnarounds, especially these Thursday night games.

2657
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 1: It's it's an abomination. A lot of players think too,

2658
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, stress players safety and tout player safety, and

2659
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 1: then you give guys a couple days in between games.

2660
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 1: I think that another bye week would be huge. Yeah. Now,

2661
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 1: initially I thought false, because I think bye weeks are

2662
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: painting the neck. But if the object is to provide

2663
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 1: an more revenue for the league, which obviously they're dying

2664
02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 1: without it. No, But if the optic is more revenue

2665
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 1: and maybe a longer TV schedule. This makes sense, right,

2666
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 1: It makes sense an eighteen week rather than a seventeen

2667
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 1: week regular season schedule, an extra week of football, Well,

2668
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:14,840
Speaker 1: are you deluding the product with more games played note

2669
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:16,920
Speaker 1: which I think is important and I think that would

2670
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 1: happen in an eighteen game schedule, but a sixteen game

2671
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 1: schedule with an extra bye week. I'm going to go

2672
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 1: true with this. I can see how that might be

2673
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 1: a benefit. I agree with it. True or false. Number two,

2674
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans are the NFL team under the most

2675
02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:33,280
Speaker 1: pressure to win this season. True or false. Gonna go false.

2676
02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 1: And we talked about Green Bay earlier. They're right up there.

2677
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:38,680
Speaker 1: But I'll say the Dallas Cowboys just because there's always

2678
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,640
Speaker 1: pressure on the Dallas Cowboys for one, but they've got

2679
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 1: a core of young players that are all up for

2680
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:49,200
Speaker 1: their contracts, like almost now, Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, Mark Cooper,

2681
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith. On the other side of the ball Layton

2682
02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 1: band Rush at some point, I mean, you have this,

2683
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 1: this core that can contend you better win now. Let

2684
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 1: alone the fact that Jason Garrett's you know, it's been

2685
02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 1: a lame Duckets seems like the last decade there, so

2686
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 1: he's always under pressure. I think the Cowboys they've got

2687
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:06,960
Speaker 1: to win now because it's gonna get tough after this season,

2688
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: and I think they will. I think they'll contend for sure,

2689
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: Really I do. In a week NFC East, right, is

2690
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 1: that why they'll contend? Because I mean, do you consider

2691
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles world beaters? What do you think? I just think,

2692
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott gets a lot of heat, but

2693
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:24,760
Speaker 1: a full summer, a full offseason, full training camp with

2694
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper, I mean, they had something special last year.

2695
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:29,800
Speaker 1: He just took Prescott's came to a different level. And

2696
02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like Dak Prescott with Zeke Elliott

2697
02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 1: behind him in that offensive line, it's not like he

2698
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 1: really has to thread the needle and you know, just

2699
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:40,440
Speaker 1: and dissect the defense away that other quarterbacks might have to.

2700
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 1: They can lean on the run, they can work off

2701
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,520
Speaker 1: play action, and they're gonna have those one on one matchups.

2702
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 1: So no Cole Beasley obviously huge part of the offense,

2703
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:51,040
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I like Dallas Tyler. I'm gonna

2704
02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 1: go false as well. For the reasons you specify. I

2705
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 1: do think there's pressure in Dallas. However, the Texans now

2706
02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 1: are looking at the Indianapolis Colts, who have become some

2707
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 1: of the dominant team and what's you know, almost a

2708
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 1: tradition now been a week division. I think the Texans. Look,

2709
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm no fan of coach O'Brien at all, but I

2710
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:12,560
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna feel some heat this year. You know,

2711
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 1: he's got Watson entering into the prime of his career, right,

2712
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:18,000
Speaker 1: He's got Hopkins who is deep into the prime of

2713
02:08:18,120 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 1: his career, and yet and J. J. Watt healthy after

2714
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 1: last year, you would think they're gonna expect results down there. Right,

2715
02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna be under some heat. And they've got a

2716
02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:29,640
Speaker 1: pretty good division rival, not to mention Jacksonville, whom some

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Speaker 1: people think is pretty decent also, and they don't even

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Speaker 1: have a GM, right, I mean, who who's in charge? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess O'Brien. It's just it's kind of odd and

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Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson was running for his life last year,

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Speaker 1: and I know they drafted some linemen they're hoping to

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Speaker 1: shore that up. But to have a stud like that

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, you got to protect him, all right. Finally,

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Speaker 1: NFL true or false. This is interesting Broncos quarterback Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco and Drew Locke will solve their quarterback problems. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with this one. That's false. And look, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of we were talking off air with some

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Speaker 1: of the production crew today. I think Joe Flacco is okay.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a decent, if not better than average

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, but solved their quarterback problems. What long term,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say false as well. And you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I know, John Elway. They won a Super Bowl with

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, so you know you gotta give him credit there.

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Speaker 1: But since then, they really have failed to take advantage

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Speaker 1: of one of the best defenses of this generation. I

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02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 1: mean really, with Von Miller and everything they have, their

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02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,800
Speaker 1: secondary has been maybe the best in the NFL, just

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02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:37,320
Speaker 1: having been able to take advantage of it because they

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02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:40,280
Speaker 1: can't navigate the most important position. You draft Paxton Lynch,

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02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 1: you roll the dice on case Keenum. I like Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 1: I hear you. I think he's better than the most

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Speaker 1: most people think. I mean, they were off to a

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02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 1: pretty good starting Balltimore or last season, But no, I

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02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's really solves anything now that defense is

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02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 1: even getting a little older and wasn't what it was

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02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:58,839
Speaker 1: just a few years. What do you think of Joe Flacco?

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Speaker 1: I mean you I like him? You like him? I agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he is anywhere near elite level. I

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02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:06,840
Speaker 1: don't think he's I don't think Joe Flacco's elite. That's

2751
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 1: the age old question, right, I don't even know if.

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02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's top ten quarterback in the league,

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02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 1: but he's top half of the league. I think in

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Speaker 1: terms of talent and ability. What do you think? Yeah,

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02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:17,920
Speaker 1: I agreed. I mean, he's kind one of the strongest

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02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 1: arms in the NFL. Doesn't move a lot, but it

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02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 1: hasn't really needed to. I mean that postseason run, it's

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02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:25,920
Speaker 1: been a long time since then, but twenty twelve is

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02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:29,080
Speaker 1: just a historic postseason, right, maybe one of the best

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02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 1: playoff runs we've ever seen out of the position. Hey,

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02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 1: you can hang his head on that forever. But I

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02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:37,200
Speaker 1: don't think in that division with Patrick Mahomes, Philip Rivers,

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02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:40,720
Speaker 1: even Derek Carr, who you like, he's the fourth best, right? Yeah? Yeah? Probably?

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go NFL True or False brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's Artist in Cheese

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Speaker 1: Tie and I coming back in a moment. To wrap

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Speaker 1: things up, One Goes Live presented by Collat of Health

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Okay, here

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Speaker 1: we go. What have we learned from today's show? Presented

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Speaker 1: by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York homes and businesses

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Speaker 1: with the finest and security and home theater, the preferred

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Speaker 1: alarm and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. We

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Speaker 1: had Adam Rankin from NFL Network. He has done thirty

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02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 1: two State of the Team pieces for NFL dot Com

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02:11:22,440 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 1: and he says the Bills are viable playoff contenders this year.

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Speaker 1: You Know, one of the things that I really like

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02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,480
Speaker 1: about this team is that they're taking the trajectory that

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02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:36,040
Speaker 1: a lot of some of the more recent successful teams

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02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:38,000
Speaker 1: who've not come out of nowhere but have kind of

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02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:40,200
Speaker 1: had a slow build. What they've done where they start

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02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:44,520
Speaker 1: with the with the you know, the solid defense, build

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02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:46,880
Speaker 1: that up, and then they have these young quarterbacks who

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02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 1: come in and have to take that next step. In

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02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 1: season two, now we've seen that in the last couple

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02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:54,400
Speaker 1: of years. Jared Goff did it out here in Los Angeles,

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02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:57,360
Speaker 1: and of course Mitch Terrbisky did it with the Bears.

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02:11:57,560 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 1: And so if I'm a Bill fan, I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: the way the rosters constructed, I'm looking at the way

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02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:05,280
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen finished last season, and I'm like, hey,

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02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:08,680
Speaker 1: I should feel pretty encouraged. Now. It's daunting because you

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02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:11,320
Speaker 1: always have the Patriots in the division, but I think

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Speaker 1: for as a playoff team, the Bills can do it.

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02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:17,280
Speaker 1: Worth reading Adam Rank on the NFL dot Com on

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02:12:17,680 --> 02:12:20,240
Speaker 1: the Bills State of the franchise. We had Jim Nage

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02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:23,320
Speaker 1: on earlier this hour, executive director of the Reese's Senior Bowl,

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02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,080
Speaker 1: and he had words of praise. I didn't even play

2797
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:28,480
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl for him last year. Tight End

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox, Buffalo's third round draft pick. We can bring

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Speaker 1: juniors to the Senior Bowl now if they have their

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Speaker 1: if they have their diploma by December, which Dawson did.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we we had some we'd had

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Speaker 1: some talk to Dawson and through some agents and whatnot,

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Speaker 1: and uh, we were we would have loved to have him.

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Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite guys in last year's draft,

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02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:50,400
Speaker 1: and then he had to have the hernia surgery, so

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02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 1: that was a that was a big time bumber for

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Speaker 1: us because I'm a huge believer in Dawson's ability. You know.

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Speaker 1: T J. Hopkinson went i think number eight overall the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, and I didn't seem very much difference between

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Speaker 1: the two players, and you got your guy in the

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Speaker 1: third round, and the line spent a top ten pick

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Speaker 1: on theirs, and I think Hawkinson's a great player, So

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Speaker 1: I'm not knocking that pick, but I'm just saying I

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Speaker 1: think golf and Knocks has the ability to be a,

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Speaker 1: you know, pretty much the same guy for the next level.

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Speaker 1: Jim Nagie the Senior Bowl. Tyler, Thanks, You're back with

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow, right absolutely, man, looking forward to it a

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Speaker 1: good time Today. We're back tomorrow with the show with

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Speaker 1: noon production assistance from George Blast, Jeff Colt, Nick Thomas,

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Speaker 1: honald Or, Kelly Rude, j J Turto, Kevin Cargis, James robell,

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Speaker 1: Our producer Jay Harris. Seeing himorrow noon, Tylan, and I'll

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Speaker 1: be back for another installment of One Bill's Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's radio