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Speaker 1: So I'm here with Nancy Glass, host of the show

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Speaker 1: Burden of Guilt. This was one of my favorite podcasts

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Speaker 1: in the last few years. Can you remind us a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the story.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a story of a woman who grew

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Speaker 2: up knowing that her baby brother died when he was

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Speaker 2: four months old and she was two, but never knowing

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Speaker 2: what really happened, and really wanting to learn what happened,

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Speaker 2: but every time she asked her parents, they would punish her,

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Speaker 2: they would beat her, and she grew up in this

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Speaker 2: terrible household. And then finally, as a teenager, she finally

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Speaker 2: gets a hold of the police report from that night

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Speaker 2: when her brother died, and the police report says mother

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Speaker 2: says two year old threw baby out of crib and

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Speaker 2: killed him, And she thinks, did I kill my brother

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Speaker 2: when I was two? Could have really happened? And what

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Speaker 2: happens after that is the most incredible story, all these

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Speaker 2: twists and turns to find out what really happened that

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Speaker 2: night and why she carries this burden and why she

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Speaker 2: no longer does well.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on getting the series turned into a docuseries. Paramount

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Speaker 1: Plus has picked it up for fans of the show.

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Speaker 1: What will people find in the documentary that's a little

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Speaker 1: bit different than the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they will first of all, see the

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Speaker 2: characters involved, and then you will see Tracy Riquel's father,

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Speaker 2: the murderer.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's huge because Tercy Riquel's father was ultimately

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Speaker 1: found guilty of killing her brother, and you guys didn't

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Speaker 1: get him to participate in the podcast. So you're saying,

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Speaker 1: we're actually going to see him in the documentary.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they will. They will see this man who was

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Speaker 2: in his day considered suave, and this person is not

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Speaker 2: how you would have pictured them to look, and the

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Speaker 2: abuse that he heaped on people is unreal.

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Speaker 1: Wolf in Sheep's clothing, for sure.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. The best criminals are the ones who can

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Speaker 2: kind of hide their psychopathology. You know. It's like all

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Speaker 2: these people on Betrayal who just both faced liars, and

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Speaker 2: I always say the scariest part of these people is

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Speaker 2: how normal they can appear. And I think the visuals

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Speaker 2: here will help you understand the entire story a lot better.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so much of this story takes place in

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Speaker 1: the courtroom. I imagine we're going to see some of

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Speaker 1: that in the documentary.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're going to see some incredible courtroom footage,

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Speaker 2: the craziest accusations and testimony. And again, you got to

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Speaker 2: see it to believe it.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was listening to the podcast. You

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Speaker 1: just form a relationship with Racy Raquel in her journey

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Speaker 1: and then to be able to see it on this

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Speaker 1: screen as a whole other experience. So I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: for that. So congratulations.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tracy Raquel is a remarkable person, and she's

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Speaker 2: never thought of herself as a victim, but I think

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Speaker 2: she now sees that in all the things she did,

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Speaker 2: she helped herself as well as her brother. She always

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Speaker 2: had her brother in mine, a four month thought she

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Speaker 2: doesn't even remember. But she has a beautiful family. She

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Speaker 2: is a beautiful person inside and out. And while this

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Speaker 2: has been very hard for her, I think it's been

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Speaker 2: very cathartic for her, and I hope after the documentary

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Speaker 2: airs it will be even better for her. But she's

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Speaker 2: somebody I admire so much.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Beginning February fourth, you can watch The Burden

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Speaker 1: of Guilt docuseries on Paramount Plus