1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: You want thatfl experience, and this is the show for you. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Third Law draws with LaVar Airy Tech as a defensive guy. TJ. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Houshman Zana. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm just bringing the viewers into how grown men in 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 2: the locker room, like I don't play with some dude 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: that you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter who it 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: was they was putting hands on you. 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: And Blaxico they are the same person, the same exact quarterback. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: It's a show with three of the best to ever 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: do it on and off the field, and no live 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports radio studios. Here's pro bowler TJ. Hushman, 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: Zanna and Super Bowl champion Blaxicopherus. 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Up on Game. I'm TJ Busch Masada 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: alongside Flexico Burds in the second hour, specifically this first topic, 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: I I really want to discuss this and see where 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: this goes. We gonna get right into it. Kawhi Leonard 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Clippers supposedly reportedly any other adjectives. They tried 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: to circumvent the salary cap. They tried to go around 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: and act like he was given the Clippers a team 20 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: friendly dealer. He took somewhat of a discount, and allegedly 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: they gave him an extra twenty eight million in some 22 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: other investment fund that he actually put up zero dollars. 23 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you saw the interview with 24 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: Steve Balmer and he was like, I was duped. Maybe 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: it's just me. It's hard for somebody that's worth billions, 26 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: one of the richest men in the world, to get 27 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: duped in an investment where your best player invests nothing 28 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: but gets twenty eight million. You got duped. I don't 29 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: one your thoughts to do you believe it should be 30 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: a punishment in what type of punishment? When he was 31 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 2: a free agent leaving Toronto, it was Kawhi Leonard wants 32 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: a house. He wants access to a private jet at 33 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: all times, which was illegal. The Lakers supposedly was like, 34 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: you know what, we're out, I want X amount guaranteed 35 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: and endorsement or the Toronto Raptors. We're trying to find 36 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: companies and businesses in the area that would guarantee Kawhi 37 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: Leonard x amount of money and endorsements. And so the 38 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: NBA knew about this, but it seems as if now 39 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 2: they must do something. Will they and what should the 40 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: punishment be. Man. 41 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, it's so much going on 42 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: with this Steve Bauman Kawhi Leonard deal, that something news 43 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: coming out every day. I guess just you know, the 44 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 3: guy he pleaded guilty wild fraud or whatever the case 45 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: may be. The company doesn't exist, no more bankruptcy and 46 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: all these things, and there's no public information of Kawhi 47 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: Leonard indorsing and endorsing this industry or whatever the case 48 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: may be. But he still was able to make twenty 49 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: eight million dollars for something that he never invested in. 50 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: I just don't know how to untangle it. I believe 51 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: at the end of the day there is going to 52 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: be some reper questions and some consequences moving forward for 53 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard because they will get down 54 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: to the bottom of it. 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Being at this thing is it's. 56 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: Not a state that's been coming up, a federal thing, 57 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: so they will get down to the bottom of it. 58 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: I can't speculate to what h what actually happened, but 59 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: I know this, when there's smoke that's fire and people 60 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: are pleading guilty to certain things, then I think everybody's 61 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: going to be investigated, and I think that you know, 62 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: the NBA is going to wait to see what happens 63 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: with this whole thing. 64 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: I think there's some informationation is going to come out 65 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: that's going to affect Kawhile Leonard and the Clippers and 66 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: the NBA moving forward. But the NBA kind of knew about. 67 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: This thing, and it's all just blowing up now that 68 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: this was a way to keep the Clippers under the 69 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: salary cap. And I'm hearing that people are saying, this 70 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: is not the first time that something like this has 71 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: happened in the NBA, Like these things are going on. Yeah, 72 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: I think the NBA and now it's going to be 73 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: a deeper investigation of other players around the league. And man, 74 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: this thing could get real ugly if they say if 75 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: if it is what they say it is, because if 76 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: it is, the dominoes are getting ready to fall, and 77 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: it's going to be like a league wide investigation on 78 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: contracts with players who are turning down enormous amounts of 79 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: money and giving discounts and friendly. 80 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: Deals and all. Like I say, man, where there's. 81 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: Smoke, death fire, I hope that you know that Kwalin 82 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: is not involved or part of it, this thing moving forward, 83 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: but I guess we're just gonna have to sit back 84 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: and see what they come up with. 85 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Man, this is interesting because when you really look into it. 86 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: And twenty twenty one, the Clippers announced a three hundred 87 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: million dollar partnership with Aspiration. So it included spot ships 88 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: and the team arena, a patch on the jerseys, and 89 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 2: they supposedly wanted the into It Dome to be called 90 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: the Aspiration Dome, but they had already made the agreement 91 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: with into It and so that wasn't happening. But the 92 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: co founder of Aspiration God by the name of Joe Sandberg, 93 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: he pleaded guilty to two counts of wire fraud. He 94 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: defrauded investors almost two hundred and fifty million. 95 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: And well, if he had defrauded investors, I think that's 96 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: you know, when he says he got duped, I guess 97 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: there is some belief behind it. If he invested in 98 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 3: the company, and you know, if he defrauded the investors 99 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: out of two hundred and fifty million dollars, maybe Steve 100 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: Bauma telling him the truth. 101 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: But where does Kawhi Leonard's twenty eight million dollar investment 102 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: come from? That's the thing where does it come from. 103 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: Kawhi didn't put any million, any millions up, He didn't 104 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: put any money up. So if he didn't put any 105 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: money up, how does he have a twenty eight million 106 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: dollar investment in and he put up no money? So 107 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: did somebody put the money up for him? So that's where, Yeah, 108 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: you may have been duped, mister Balmer, you may have 109 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: been conned, not that I'm thinking about it, that may 110 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: have happened. But if Kawhi put up no money, who 111 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: put it up for him? Who put the money up 112 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: for him? So did you put it up for Kawhi 113 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: thinking the company would take off and it didn't? So, yes, 114 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: you were duped. But who put up Kawhi Leonard's money? 115 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: That is going to be the big question that is 116 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: going to have to be answered, and somebody's going to 117 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: have to come up with it. 118 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: As and if it's found that the Clippers and Bamber 119 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: did indeed try to circumvent the cap, what's the punishment 120 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: they call him for a lifetime man for who both? So, okay, 121 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: the Clippers get in trouble, Okay, do you void Kawhi 122 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: Leonard's contract? 123 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that the NBA can do that. But 124 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: if this was going on, the people in the front 125 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: office knew, they knew that this was going on, so 126 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: everybody should suffer some consequences. But they if this, if 127 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: that is exactly what happened, then they're calling from a 128 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: band for Obama and Kawhi Leonard, which would be very sad. 129 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: But we have to we have to wait and see 130 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: what information it's true in false. 131 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: I don't think I truly, truly don't believe Steve Balmer 132 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: will get banned I don't believe that will happen at all. 133 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: I believe he will be fined and he needs to 134 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: be fined. 135 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: No, this has the amount. This is very serious. This 136 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: is very serious because it's basically it's cheating. 137 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it is cheating, but they're not They're not going 138 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: to force him to sell the Clippers. What they're gonna do. 139 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: This is a why I think that huge amount. This 140 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: is an n b A. He is. 141 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: Paying Kawhi Leonard under the table. That's what that's what 142 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: What's what it gets them because he can get yeah, 143 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: he can get other players on the team to win 144 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: basketball games and pay Kawhi Leonard under the table and 145 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: under the salary cap. 146 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: That is serious business. Yeah, I don't believe they're gonna 147 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: force him to sell, but he gonna be hit with 148 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: a heavy fine. Man, What do you think the. 149 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: Other owners are gonna if the other owners, if they 150 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 3: give the other owners a vote to where. 151 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: He can't keep, they're gonna they're gonna stick together because 152 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: I guarantee if Steve Farmer his than is doing this, 153 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: others are. And I'll just give you another one. Think 154 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: about this. You remember when you remember, and obviously I'm 155 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: just you know, just looking at stuff. When Jalen Brunson 156 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 2: signed this deal, what everybody say, you recall, I'll tell 157 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: you what everybody said, why do you sign that? Why 158 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: do he sign that? When Jalen Brunton signed his deal, 159 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: everybody said, why did he sign that? He left over 160 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars on the table. And I don't 161 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: know the exact number. I don't know the exact time. 162 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: A million dollars. How much one hundred and thirteen million 163 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: dollars he left on the table. 164 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: So when you see that, that don't raise a red 165 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: flag to you. What human being on earth will leave 166 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: one hundred open? Well, human being on earth only maybe 167 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: I was on table maybe thirteen by one hundred. Yeah, 168 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: you don't leave a hundred and thirteen million and so 169 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: on it. Now, that's if the owners say we want 170 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: Steve Balmer removed. Now you open up Pandora's box, because 171 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: now we're gonna theyre gonna start looking at all these 172 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: contracts as make your saying it's been going on, but 173 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: Jalen Brynce's is the first one. Ain't been no investigation. 174 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: Now you start investigating it, now you might uncover some things. 175 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: So I don't believe the owners want Steve Bamer banned. 176 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: They want him fined and punished. The biggest thing is 177 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard. If his contract is deemed null and void 178 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: and they tear that up, does he start talking because 179 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: now he loses out on one hundred and fifty million. 180 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: I'm not losing out on one hundred. 181 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: Fifty You understand that paying somebody under the table is fraud, 182 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: is illegal, it's a course of course, it's a crime becauz. 183 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: But if they void Kawhi Leonard's contract, that is a 184 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars contract gone, So he don't 185 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: receive that. He no long That's what I'm saying. You 186 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: think he wants that. So now does he get the talking. 187 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: Does he talk about he was doing it? He got 188 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: caught and if he knew what he was doing? Does 189 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: he say about now does he in turn say Bomber 190 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 2: knew what he was doing? 191 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, they both got caught. This good both been caught. 192 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: This nothing else for them to say. 193 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: Anybody, everybody else may have been doing it. 194 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: It may have happened once or twice in the league, 195 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: but you know what, but they got caught. There's nothing 196 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: else for quality for him to come forward and say. 197 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: All he's gonna do is is further damage himself. 198 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: He's gonna need a lawyer. You he was getting paid 199 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: under the table. This is gonna get real. This will 200 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 2: be very interesting to see how Adam Silver navigates this, 201 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: because that's what it's gonna come down. And this guy 202 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: an already plead the guilty the wild fraud. Adam Silver, 203 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: how how will ugly respond and handle this situation because 204 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: there's gonna be so much pressure on him to handle 205 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: this the correct way, not not just from the owner. 206 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: You got to get cuffs on her to talk about 207 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: this and this from the media. Yes, hey, we will 208 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: labor further elaborate on the seriousness of what has just 209 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: taken place. This ain't just no slap on the wrist 210 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: like a state thing. This thing is getting ugly, real, bro, 211 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: real that real is gonna be And there's not too 212 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: many people talking about it because they kind of it 213 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: seems like they want to sweep it under the rug. 214 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: But no, this ain't going nowhere. Steve Bomber is gonna 215 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: get a hefty fine. But Steve Balmer is so rich 216 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: that half defined is nothing. He just e jo I 217 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: invested fifty million and I got duped. He invested fifty million. 218 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: He he acting like fifty million is one thousand dollars, Like, oh, well, 219 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: I lost fifty million in man. That that there. But 220 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard stands to lose one hundred and fifty million 221 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: dollars if his contract is voided, and that that that's 222 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: a ripple effect on what he gonna say, was his 223 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: uncle involved in this? Are you gonna start investigating everybody's 224 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: contract that it may have taken less? This thing, specifically 225 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: that one hundred million that that fella in New York 226 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: took less? That blew everybody's mind, like why would he 227 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: do this when all he had to do was wait 228 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: and he would have received this contract. So I don't know, 229 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: but time will tell. 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If you're looking at Heisman best player, 266 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: it's what we're talking about. 267 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: I think he's the best college football player in America. 268 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: Your team's to your college football coverage. 269 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller, 270 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 5: with mean a lot to have you join us on 271 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 5: our weekly auditory journey. You're asking what in God's name 272 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 5: is the Fifth Hour. I'll tell you it's a spin 273 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 5: off of that Ben Mather show, a Colt hit overnights 274 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 5: on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture if you will, 275 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 5: a world where we chat with captains of industry in media, 276 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 5: sports and more every week explore some amazing facts about 277 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 5: human nature and more. Listen to The Fifth Hour with 278 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 5: Ben Maller on the iHeartRadio app podcast or wherever you 279 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 5: get your podcast. 280 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back in up on Game DJ. Who's Mosada alongside 281 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: Plexico Barris? 282 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: Heyo tj yo. I just want to say something right quick. 283 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: I just want to reiterate right now that the number 284 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 3: two team in the nation, that Penn State and in. 285 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: The Lions are in a dog fight with FIU. Right now. 286 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: What's the score, Well, they just kicked the field goal. 287 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: It's ten to zero, but Joel eight yards passing, it's 288 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: a second quarter. Man, Listen Listen, they can't over to football. 289 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: Penn State. 290 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: They're really good on defense, really good on defense. They 291 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: that's just what they do to me. Their offense is 292 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: not good enough, has not been good enough, will not 293 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: be good enough to be what. I just want to 294 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: put that out there. I'm just saying, and I wish 295 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: LeVar was here. Like last year, they couldn't move the ball. 296 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: I mean it was Tyler Warren or bust. Yeah, I 297 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: don't believe Penn State. Penn State. They'll finish, then they'll 298 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: make the college Football Playoff and then I'll run into 299 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: somebody that's going to force them to just be one 300 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: dimensional and then they'll knock the Nickney Lions out. We're 301 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: not hating on the Niitney Lions. We're just State. We're not. 302 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: We're not We're not. We can play it back fu 303 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 3: LeVar next week when it gets back. But I did, Yeah, 304 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: that's what we'll do. But yeah, they are struggling. Yeah, 305 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 3: that's that is a struggle for sure. That is a 306 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: struggle for sure. Now this may be a struggle for 307 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: the players. I don't know if I like it. You 308 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: have a son that plays college football. 309 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: Danca has voted to have a single football transfer window. Now, 310 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: just because they voted doesn't mean it's going to go 311 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: into effect or it's a rule. But that's what they 312 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: are trying to do, and I do understand some of it. 313 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: December transfer portal, when it's season is technically still going 314 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: to College Football Playoff. You got guys transferring when technically 315 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: the season is still going on. I don't like that. 316 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: You can't just leave in the school that you're at 317 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: it's still playing games, but to have to what they're 318 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: trying to do is they're trying to have the transfer 319 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: the transfer window and opens up January tewod but the 320 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: teams in the College Football Playoff they're still playing. So 321 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't understand that part of it, but it is 322 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: another window open. It is December. It is now the 323 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: spring game. It's December, and then it's in the spring. 324 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: That's how it is now. So it's December ninth, after 325 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: the twenty eighth, and then it's April sixteenth through the 326 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 2: twenty fifth. That's when Nitho transferred from Tennessee to UCLA. 327 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: I do recall that us. 328 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: Because because because what is starting to happening now a 329 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: few of these programs are not having spring games because 330 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 3: they don't want their players to go out there and 331 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 3: look great on film or in the spring game and 332 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: another school comes in and offers them a whole bunch 333 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: of money and then they leave to go to that 334 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: school after they perform in the spring game. 335 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: See, this was a big part of it. Play This 336 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: was a really big part of it. So last season, 337 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: Penn State and that SMU, they lost their backup quarterbacks 338 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: to the portal while they were still in the College 339 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: Football Playoff. But the biggest thing was Marshall opted out 340 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: of a bowl game because we don't have enough players. Like, really, 341 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: your whole damn team transferred out. But they didn't have 342 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 2: enough players to plan a ball game. But you know 343 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: why they didn't have enough players? You know why? Well, 344 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: supposedly because a coach took another job. So my thing 345 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: is this what happened? What happened to me? Hold up, 346 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: hold up lex. If a coach can take another job 347 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: whenever the hell he wants, then why can't a player 348 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: transfer whenever the hell he wants? Like, if it's good 349 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: for him, it's good for me. And so the players 350 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: that Marshall entered the portal because the coach took another job. 351 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: If a coach can take a job in December, then 352 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: the players should be able to transfer in December. Very simple, 353 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: like they these archaic rules of it's gonna the players 354 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: can't get played, but the coach is gonna make generational 355 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: wealth on the back of the players. They finally did 356 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: away with that. Now the players can get paid. And 357 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: you got these dumb ass coaches talking about, Oh man, 358 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: the players are making so much money. So were you 359 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: on the backs of the players go to one of 360 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: these weak schools and make a hundred million and win games? 361 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: Oh you can't, you can't. And so I get. I 362 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: am for some type of reform to this, but don't 363 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: try to keep handicapping the players. You've done this long enough. 364 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: You did this to us, You did it to us. 365 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: But now that it's on the even playing ground, if 366 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: a coach can take a job, a player should be 367 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: able to transfer. I do believe it should just be 368 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: one window. But if a coach is gonna leave, a 369 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: player gotta look after himself because we a lot of 370 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: times we don't go to the school for the school. 371 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 2: We go to the school for the coaches. We go 372 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: to the school because of the relationship we build with 373 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: a coach, and if he leaves and I need to 374 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: be able to leave, I don't care what the portal 375 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: and the transfer window says. What say you. 376 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: Man, this and none that I've listened to, you know, 377 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: everything that you just said and everything that's going on 378 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 3: with the n c A, n I L and giving 379 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: them one window on one window to transfer or in 380 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 3: I L or whatever. This happened to me years ago. 381 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: This happened to me back in nineteen ninety nine and 382 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: a great coach, boy the name of Nick Saban left 383 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: us while the season was still going on. And as 384 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: a kid, you really understand he's like, man, like we 385 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: still we had a bowl game to go to and 386 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: it was just up in the middle of the night 387 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: and he was gone. So it's been going on for 388 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: quite some time. But I think there's just been so 389 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: much turnover with this transfer portal, and the parody in 390 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: college football right now is at all time high. And 391 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: Alabama's no longer Alabama. The Clipsons of the world. In 392 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: these top tier, top five programs, Oklahomas and the Texas 393 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: and all of those, I mean, they're good now, but 394 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: the consistency of what these program MS brought to college 395 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: football and how great they were those times, those days 396 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: no longer exists because you know, you have you know, 397 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: the SMUs and you have you know, Florida State coming 398 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: back into dominance. You have you know, uh, you have, 399 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: you have great skill these smaller schools now playing on 400 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: a national scale, which you didn't have, you know, fifteen 401 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: twenty years ago. And I think that that's what they 402 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: really want to get back to. They want to get 403 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: back to the Miamis and the Texas and the Oklahomas 404 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 3: and the us Seas and the UCLA's and the Tennessee's. 405 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: They want to get back to those those big programs 406 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: and giving these giving the guys one one chance or 407 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: one opportunity to to make a decision. Because if I'm 408 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: a player and you know, we don't we don't have 409 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: the season that I think we're going to have, and 410 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: my coach Leeds and you can you can make a 411 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 3: decision in January to leave the coach Leeves like that, 412 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: that gives me, you know, a lot of leverage and 413 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: an opportunity to make our decisions. 414 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: You know, well, you know what, I'm not going to stay. 415 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 3: I'm not going to transfer right now, because I know 416 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: I have a window in April, and I think that's 417 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: what the NBC Double A is is trying to limit. 418 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 2: Have a full have a roster. 419 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: That the n C double as that they know where 420 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: the players are going to be going into the spring. 421 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: And I think that's what they're trying to do, because 422 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: these rosters are flip flopping like crazy. And I'm gonna 423 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: just be honest with you. I don't even know half 424 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: the guys on my team and skaped, I just root 425 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: for my school. 426 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah to me, doorway with the December window. I don't 427 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: believe kids should be transferring when your team is playing 428 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: Doorway with the December window. If your team is in 429 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 2: a college football playoff, you can't transfer, but open the 430 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: window January to whatever date. You should still have two 431 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: windows January to whatever date, and then again in the spring. 432 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: Because you may be thinking about transferring, you talk to 433 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: your coaches, they tell you it's going to be X, 434 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: Y and Z, and then you get to spring ball 435 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: you realize it's not X Y and Z. Oh I'm transferring. 436 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 2: You lie to me, but they'll lie to you because 437 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: then they know you locked in for a year. And 438 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: so that to me would be the next best thing. 439 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: But these coaches in these administration, man, y'all been taking 440 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: advantage of US players for decades. Decades. You coaches have 441 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: made millions upon millions upon millions of dollars on the 442 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: back of us for decades. Stop crying and complaining and 443 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: do what's best for the kids. Always trying to do 444 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: what's best for you, and then tell you we student athletes. No, no, no, no, no, 445 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: the majority is are athletes students. Let's just call it 446 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: what it is. 447 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 3: Every coach, you know, it comes to saying, now, well, 448 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 3: the kids are trying to do the best thing for me, 449 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: so I gotta do the best thing for myself. 450 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: Exactly playing now, exactly. Sorry, it used to be the 451 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: other way around, used to and we need to keep 452 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: it how it is because it's fair for all parties. 453 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: It's fair for all parties. Alo, man, What you got 454 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: for us? Man with the updates? Man, we went a 455 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: little long. We sorry about that. 456 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 6: What you get both only ten push up seats? 457 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 7: No, I'm just kidding, it's fine. 458 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 6: Number two Penn State guys has a ten nothing lead 459 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 6: over Florida International at halftime. 460 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: Lamar Rington has not really been a factor so far. 461 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 6: But there's I'm so mean. 462 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: Number seven. 463 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 6: Number seven, Texas up twenty eight to seven over San 464 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 6: Jose A State three minutes and fifty seconds left to 465 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 6: play in the second quarter. Longhorn quarterback Arch Manning eleven 466 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 6: of fifteen for one eighty four touchdown passes, including this 467 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: one courtesy of Craig way On kV et shotten. 468 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 5: Stamps Manning off books forty deep up for what pounder 469 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 5: living should Blida Cats in forty took big deal Dena 470 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: sevenns for forty for thardon say. 471 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 4: To this one p. 472 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 5: Livingston, but cats and Rodin and a past fort eighty 473 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: three yard touchdown. 474 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: Number eleven Illinois as a fourteen to six lead at 475 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 6: Duke with two to eighteen left in the second quarter. Elsewhere, 476 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 6: with forty eight seconds left in the second quarter, Fourteenth 477 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: ranked Florida State leads East Texas A and M forty 478 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 6: nine to nothing. Florida State quarterback Tommy Castellato seven of 479 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 6: ten for two hundred and thirty yards and touchdown passes 480 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 6: of forty two yards, fifty three yards and eighty two yards. 481 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 6: Sixteenth ranked Iowa State ahead of Iowa thirteen to three 482 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 6: with one forty six left in the second quarter, and 483 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 6: at least one Iowa fan has seen enough at Cato 484 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 6: Hawk posting on a message board quote time to go 485 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 6: pull weeds and sweep the garage unquote. Number seventeen SMU 486 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 6: ahead of Baylor twenty four to twenty one late in 487 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 6: the second quarter. Number twenty three Indiana up twenty one 488 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 6: to six at halftime over Kansas State. Twenty fourth Rngth 489 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 6: Texas Tech leading Kent State forty one to nothing with 490 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 6: thirty seconds left on the first half. Number nineteen Texas 491 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: A and M meanwhile holding just a ten to six 492 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 6: lead over Utah State early in the second quarter, and 493 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 6: a lot of Aggie fans are not amused. These courtesy 494 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 6: of the social media site message board geniuses at AG 495 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 6: five one two posting quote Mike Elko is worse than 496 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 6: Jimbo Fisher at Buckmaster adding seven and five at best 497 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 6: with this bleep defense, and finally at hoss ag commenting 498 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 6: simply quote, we are dog bleep. Now back to two 499 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 6: guys who definitely are not dog bleep. 500 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Wow he Jan Plex, Hey, Hey, no Texas, No fans 501 00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 2: a pissed. 502 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: That's what we got next week Texas and him in 503 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: South Ben I hope that that looked. 504 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: Good for y'all. They got all this talent. They have 505 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: all this talent every year and it's like, Uh, what 506 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: are they doing with all the talent? Absolutely nothing? But 507 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: what what is this? We we gotta be quick on 508 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: this and we're gonna touch on this is we have 509 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: about what's up with Bill Belichick? Bro? Like North Carolina 510 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: your squirrel opening touchdown on your first drive to start 511 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: the season, and then it was just nothing the rest 512 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: of the way to the end of the game. But 513 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: why are you banning Patriots scouting staff members from your 514 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: program from coming to watch practice? Why are you doing this? Like, 515 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: Bill Bell, do you realize how this makes you look? Like? 516 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: What is wrong with this dude? Man? 517 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: I have no idea. Man, he's in a position of power. 518 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: He's always been in the position power. But college is 519 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: more than pro We know that. And I don't know 520 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: what the what he's hiding or what he doesn't want 521 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 3: the Patriots regime to see, But there's definitely something behind 522 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: him not allowing the Patriots the Scouts players. It doesn't 523 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: even make sense. So it just tells me that there's 524 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: something going on in New England. Nah, you know what 525 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: it is plex to me. 526 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: You know what it tells me he's still bitter about 527 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: the way his exit went from the Patriots, because you're 528 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: not banning nobody else. You're not banning other teams. You 529 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: just banning the Patriots. It's you're not banning the Jets, 530 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: you banning the Cowboys, Scouts, You not banning the Chief Scouts. 531 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: It's just the Patriots. So you're bitter about how things 532 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: went with Robert Kraft when he decided to let you go? 533 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: H can he really? Can he do that? Though he 534 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: munch can't. He's doing it. He's doing it. 535 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: I just think that some of the things that he 536 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: was doing in New England he doesn't want them to 537 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: see or experience. There's something going on other than him 538 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: being fired the way that he was. I really believe 539 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: that there's two separate things going on internally when he 540 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: was in New England and now that he's in North Carolina. 541 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: Is bigger than him being fired from the organization. 542 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: I just that's just something. I believe. It's some personal 543 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: we don't know, but he better win some games. If 544 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna act the way he acted in New England, 545 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: he was able to be rude to people and treat people, 546 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: at least it seems from the outside looking in the media, 547 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: a certain type of way, players, a certain type of way. 548 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: He was able to do that because he was winning. 549 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: He was able to do it because he was winning. 550 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: He won so many Super Bowls. He had Tom Brady. 551 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: But without mister Brady, Bill Belichick has shown to be 552 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: a below not an average, a below average coach. I 553 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: think Sante Say said it best, So he better start winning, 554 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: because to me, the longer he coaches, the more you 555 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: start to question, damn, it really was all Brady, it 556 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 2: really was. The longer he coaches, the more he exposes himself, 557 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: at least in my eyes. And I know the people 558 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: that play for him, they love him. He's a great 559 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: coach and he probably is a really great teacher. But 560 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: without twelve you are below average. 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With 612 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. You can stream us wherever you happen to be. 613 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 2: Catch us and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows 614 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 2: live twenty four to seven and the new and approved 615 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio app to stream 616 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: us live all day, every day, and be sure to 617 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 2: select Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in 618 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: the iHeart app, so it will always pop up at 619 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: the top of your screen and without further ado. I'm 620 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 2: not sure how I did, but I know I did 621 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: great or let me say I have no idea. We 622 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 2: go see. Uh, let's see what mister Burris did. And 623 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: we know LeVar is always the basement lab, whether he's 624 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: here or he is n't. We're getting ready from up 625 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: on Game down on Game, and let's get last week's results. 626 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: Time for some picks. 627 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: Are you up on game, Let's crack this up. Let's 628 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: break it up. 629 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: Down on Game. 630 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 7: Yes, that's right up on game down game. Last week's results, 631 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 7: LeVar three and three, TJ, you went three and three plaques, 632 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 7: you went one in five go. 633 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: You gotta be kidding me. 634 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 7: So there's there is room for improvement. And it was 635 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 7: the first week, so we're getting used to it. 636 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: You know what, plex is out here like Bill Belichick 637 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: without breaking. 638 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 7: We are going to start this week, uh, Camboard making 639 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 7: his debut in the NFL on the road against the 640 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 7: Denver Broncos. Denver an eight and a half point favorite here. 641 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 7: The total has currently said that forty two and a 642 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 7: half and TJ, we're gonna start with you here. 643 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: Too, total forty two. Man. I just remember being in 644 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: meeting rooms and a head coach will get up and say, 645 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: we only get to face a RICKI one time and 646 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 2: as his first start ever in the National Football League, 647 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: and we gonna make it hell for him. That's what 648 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 2: I believe the Denver Broncos will do for cam Ward. 649 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: They gonna make it tough. It's gonna be an uphill battle. 650 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Denver Broncos. I'm gonna give up 651 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: the eight points. 652 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 7: What was the over under forty two and a half. 653 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: And I'll say it will go over. I like it 654 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 2: to be about a thirty eight to fifteen type score. 655 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: I take the Denver Broncos, oh Man, going to Mount 656 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: Hi Stadium. 657 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: I am a lifetime oh and two, So I'm gonna 658 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 3: go under the forty two points. Just like TJ said, 659 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 3: I believe Denver Broncos are gonna get after cam Mood 660 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 3: in this first start. Historically the Tennessee does not put 661 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: up a lot of points, So I'm going under the 662 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: forty two and I'm gonna take the oval on for 663 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: the Broncos at eight and a half. 664 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take the oval on the eight. 665 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 7: And a half, all right? Next up Sunday Night, the 666 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 7: Baltimore Ravens head to Buffalo Baltimore one and a half 667 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 7: point road favorite in this one. The total is currently 668 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 7: fifty and a half. Complax will start. 669 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 3: With you man, I'm going under the fifteen and a half. 670 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a battle. Lamar Jackson is the real 671 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: MVP with a real MVP stand up. Josh Allen was 672 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 3: not the real MVP. We know how that story goes. 673 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: So I'm taking the Baltimore Ravens plus one and a half. 674 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: I believe that the Baltimore Ravens will redeem themselves. It's 675 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 3: gonna be a defensive game. So I'm going under the 676 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 3: fifty and I'm taking Baltimore. 677 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting. Josh Allen was a right for MVP, 678 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the Baltimore Ravens. 679 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: They're really good in the regular season. They blew the 680 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: Bills out last year in the regular season. But I 681 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: believe points will come, and points will come fast and curious. 682 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: So I will take the over with the points. But 683 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 2: I like the Baltimore Ravens. 684 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 7: Also, all right. And to round it out, Monday nights, 685 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 7: the Minnesota Vikings head to Chicago to take on Ben 686 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 7: Johnson and Caleb Williams. The Vikings they wanted to have 687 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 7: a point road favorite here. The total is currently at 688 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 7: forty three. 689 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: And a half. Man, I'm gonna go under on the points. 690 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: Don't ask me why. That really makes no sense, but 691 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. But I actually like the Chicago Bears. Sure, 692 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna get out of JJ 693 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: McCarthy this first start in the National Football League. But 694 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna get out of Ben 695 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 2: Johnson and Kayler Williams. Johnson, but it's something that tells 696 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: me they gonna figure this out. I like the Chicago Bears, 697 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: and I'm going you. 698 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 3: Know what, I'm not a firm believing Kayler Williams as 699 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 3: of yet Ben Johnson and his first head coaching job 700 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 3: against his former divisional opponent. I'm gonna take the Minnesota Vikings. 701 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 2: I really do. Chicago Bears. No Keenan Allen, no safety blanket. 702 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 2: So I'm going to go over on the point stire 703 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: will be no defense being played, and I'm taking the 704 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings to start off on one under the news 705 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: starting quarterback JJ McCarthy. All right, to see if Brian 706 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: Flores can confuse him. Can Brian Flores confused? Kayler Williams, 707 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: he will that that will be to me the kid 708 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 2: the game viewers listening, thank you for locking in with 709 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: us these past couple hours. Make sure you stay locked in. 710 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: Jonas Knocks's next. That's Plexicico Baris. I'm tj Housh Mazada. 711 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radio up on game. Y'all stay locked in. 712 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 2: Jonas Snacks is next. 713 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 6: Pece