Speaker 1: What's the family. It's your girl. To mek A D. Mallory,
Speaker 1: it's your boy my son, and we are your hosts
Speaker 1: and street politicians the place via the streets and politics me.
Speaker 1: I want you to address me going forward as grandma tea.
Speaker 1: That's my teeth, teeth and my teeth. Well, thank you.
Speaker 1: I was saying grandma, and it just was falling flat
Speaker 1: like grandma. You know, people say grandma, they say this
Speaker 1: and that, but I want to stick with grandma. It
Speaker 1: was falling flat, and then I just came up with
Speaker 1: it literally in this second. Is grandma te grandma? Te grandma.
Speaker 1: I don't want grandma, I want grandma. What's what's your
Speaker 1: granddaughter's name? And hand? What his name is? Blair? And
Speaker 1: she is we are in bliss with there because she
Speaker 1: is abused at Oh dope, man. Congratulations to his son.
Speaker 1: Ye he's a little he's a little half grown man
Speaker 1: there man, he got him a little he gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna step up now. Yeah, I got to step up.
Speaker 1: And her mom's name is Nia, and she's also incredible.
Speaker 1: They're really good parents, you know. I I even watch
Speaker 1: your grand your grandson's parents. So Nassan and Cindy. They're
Speaker 1: really good parents. These young people are incredible parents. Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know what it is. I think I think
Speaker 1: we gave him a lot of a foundation. You know,
Speaker 1: they had a way different kind of foundation because we
Speaker 1: had parents says like, listen, you're gonna that's your kid.
Speaker 1: You're gonna figure it out. I love him and gonna come,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna you're gonna do the initial work. The
Speaker 1: first six or eight months is on you. I'm gonna come,
Speaker 1: buy my hug him, and I'm gonna do that. But
Speaker 1: we don't think I don't think we're parented in that fashion.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We gave a lot of
Speaker 1: a cushion. You know my son's mother, I saw him.
Speaker 1: She's very hands on with you know, her grandson. So
Speaker 1: they didn't really have to to really do my I mean,
Speaker 1: they do, they what they have to do, but the
Speaker 1: foundation is really set for them. So yeah, it's true
Speaker 1: when you well, first of all, even though yes we
Speaker 1: are working as parents, I'm as grandparents, we are working,
Speaker 1: but we have a lot more flexibility to be able
Speaker 1: to support Our parents didn't have that. Their jobs were
Speaker 1: pretty much nine to five once they get home. They've
Speaker 1: got to get ready for bed, because every day, you know,
Speaker 1: they were on that that when you call it the
Speaker 1: the the wheel, you know, going my parents they got
Speaker 1: home at a certain time of day, six o'clock or whatever.
Speaker 1: They didn't have time to watch my son afterwards, even
Speaker 1: though they still helped out way more than they should
Speaker 1: have ever been required to. But nonetheless, it was just
Speaker 1: a different thing, you right, It's it's just different. We
Speaker 1: are more involved in shifting things and you know, but
Speaker 1: then I don't know, because other grandparents have damn they
Speaker 1: are taken over in terms of how they supported their
Speaker 1: grandchildren and the parents. I don't know, it just was different.
Speaker 1: I was just not as good as a parent as
Speaker 1: these kids. What I see in them doing is just
Speaker 1: over the top. So I'm happy to be a part
Speaker 1: of that. And it's fering. I'm grandma, te grandma. T
Speaker 1: what's in the news? Um? Oh? So Biden in the
Speaker 1: marijuana offenses. First of all, the White House is like, yo,
Speaker 1: we gotta do some stuffs because we only had what
Speaker 1: is it now? They're less than thirty days, Yeah, November
Speaker 1: five is less than thirty days for the mentorm elections.
Speaker 1: They need people to turn out, and they have to
Speaker 1: figure out what to do in a short period of
Speaker 1: time to try to make sure that the messaging is
Speaker 1: not just flat. They need to be able to give
Speaker 1: it some you know, some some highs and lows and
Speaker 1: put some color up in there around what they have
Speaker 1: been able to accomplish. In my judgment, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you agree, it's not um like you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: it's not. I can't say it's flat because we can't
Speaker 1: do that. We have to give credit. We are credit
Speaker 1: is due, but certainly the type of change we need.
Speaker 1: Forget about what they promised and all of that, because
Speaker 1: we could get into that and be here all day,
Speaker 1: but just the type of so it's the type of
Speaker 1: change we need, the type of support people of color,
Speaker 1: but black folks specifically that we need in this country.
Speaker 1: I don't know that the government has ever going to
Speaker 1: do that. I just don't. I just don't know that
Speaker 1: we will ever have a government that will give us
Speaker 1: what we need as a people. Just don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I don't think, like I
Speaker 1: said all the time, to give black people marginalized communities
Speaker 1: which they actually need to be successful and progressive means
Speaker 1: the fall of capitalism. Right, Capitalism cannot function if everybody
Speaker 1: is financially stable, Right, there has to be a lower class.
Speaker 1: That's what it is, built off, is built off somebody
Speaker 1: has nothing, and and and some people have a lot,
Speaker 1: you know. So to actually give marginalized people who who's
Speaker 1: actually are black people in this continent communities, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, those equal opportunities and options is the
Speaker 1: fall of capitalists. But when we look at this bill,
Speaker 1: it's two things, right that I say, And I'm critical
Speaker 1: about it, always critical about it. But as as the president,
Speaker 1: there only you have limited ability to just make laws. Right,
Speaker 1: there's there's a process. And the only thing you actually
Speaker 1: can control our federal as federal legislation gets held the states. Yo,
Speaker 1: every state, y'all gotta do this. They don't have to
Speaker 1: buy buy those rules. So the only thing he's he
Speaker 1: has the ability to do is make federal law and
Speaker 1: and give the states who want to help buy But
Speaker 1: not at that point, it's for us to push our
Speaker 1: state legislators, you know, and I the people that control
Speaker 1: our states to adopt those things, you know, And and
Speaker 1: and it's a fun up system it's it's it's sucked
Speaker 1: up and I want to be I want to say
Speaker 1: by ain't doing ship. But I see them past a
Speaker 1: couple of things that I gotta says. It's more than
Speaker 1: I've seen anybody else. Do you know, It's more than
Speaker 1: I've seen people doing a long time. And I'm definitely critical.
Speaker 1: We should be getting way more ship. We should be
Speaker 1: doing all these things, all these bills that we should get.
Speaker 1: But I understand that there's a process, and I understand
Speaker 1: there's some people who don't want that process to go.
Speaker 1: They don't want to see marginalized communities, black and brown
Speaker 1: communities actually grow. They just don't want to see it,
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, I don't. I don't know,
Speaker 1: and that's why I don't know if it's it's possible
Speaker 1: for us to actually get equity in this country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think what you said is a d
Speaker 1: true that you know the States is now where it
Speaker 1: goes because seven thousand people is great, but we know
Speaker 1: that the system is full of and that incarceration is
Speaker 1: is really um populated, if you will, if you will,
Speaker 1: by our people, many of them black folks with criminal
Speaker 1: backgrounds based upon marijuana conviction. So we know that you know,
Speaker 1: seven thousand is a good number. We want to see
Speaker 1: everybody at every level to cut you in. The seven
Speaker 1: thousand represents the amount of people who would be affected
Speaker 1: by INDI federal system by the that I'm saying, seven
Speaker 1: thousand people potentially potentially being freed under this um, you know,
Speaker 1: new law. However, this states it does fall back on
Speaker 1: the states to handle the masses and sort of the
Speaker 1: magnitude of the problem around marijuana convictions. And I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna be honest in saying that this is why you
Speaker 1: have to go to the polls, because first of all, anyway,
Speaker 1: I was getting ready get into a whole thing that
Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about today, because you know, I
Speaker 1: just want to know which one of your Republican buddies, Um,
Speaker 1: these all these people who are out here that folks
Speaker 1: are like, well, it's good people on both sides, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: which one of them, Which one of those individuals is
Speaker 1: pushing for legislation that we're free a bunch of people
Speaker 1: at once under a new law, um and a new statute.
Speaker 1: I don't know what, you know, whatever, the point is
Speaker 1: that this is why we have to make sure that
Speaker 1: we vote for governors and others um in state office
Speaker 1: and your state legislature who will help to ensure that
Speaker 1: what Biden has done is modeled on the state level,
Speaker 1: because that's where we have most of our people dealing
Speaker 1: with marijuana convictions and incarceration and um, you know, and
Speaker 1: and if you are unwilling to be participate in the process,
Speaker 1: you won't show up at the post. You're not, you know,
Speaker 1: making sure because this is like a rubber meets the
Speaker 1: road situation. This is not just some theoretical ship that's
Speaker 1: just in the air. This is like, literally, you make
Speaker 1: sure you put somebody in office who will look at
Speaker 1: what Biden is doing the same. This state wants to
Speaker 1: be a part of that. It's that simple. It's either
Speaker 1: your legislature, your your It's either your governors and those
Speaker 1: people who are in elected office in your state supported
Speaker 1: or they don't. And by the way, where is Kathy
Speaker 1: hok Or in New York? Because I ain't I don't
Speaker 1: know if I heard that she or Or has already
Speaker 1: signed a bill that is aligned with that. So I'm
Speaker 1: over here talking about the Democrats. But hey, which one
Speaker 1: of those states? But I don't know I need to
Speaker 1: do some more research, so I'm checking myself. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: heard you say black and brown coalition, um or you
Speaker 1: said black and brown people, and that that term has
Speaker 1: been challenged greatly over the last few days based upon
Speaker 1: the uh, the the situation in Los Angeles County where
Speaker 1: the council president she's now the former council president, nor Martinez,
Speaker 1: was caught on tape saying a bunch of nasty, vile,
Speaker 1: racist things um about us black people and particularly a
Speaker 1: black child, calling him a monkey, talking about violence against
Speaker 1: the kid. Just a bunch of nasty things that she
Speaker 1: should not have been saying, and she got caught, and
Speaker 1: it has caused people to start talking about an issue
Speaker 1: that comes up often, is this idea of a black
Speaker 1: and brown coalition and what and not it really exists?
Speaker 1: And this is what I want to say. First of all,
Speaker 1: she has resigned from the council completely. But her two
Speaker 1: colleagues who were also in the conversation, who not one
Speaker 1: of them pitched the fit and said, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: this is nasty, this is not right. What the hell
Speaker 1: are you talking about. I refused to participate in this.
Speaker 1: They didn't one of them. I think didn't do that,
Speaker 1: and the other one actually participated in the conversation for real,
Speaker 1: for real, Um, you know, neither one of them did
Speaker 1: anything to stop it. And those two people have not resigned,
Speaker 1: so there's still pressure on. And so the question becomes,
Speaker 1: you know, people talk, they hear sometimes even you know,
Speaker 1: we say black and brown, um, and folks are like,
Speaker 1: is their real black and brown coalition? Because we know
Speaker 1: that there are Latino individuals out there who do not
Speaker 1: identify with our communities, and in fact, they want to
Speaker 1: see themselves as a step above us. They want to
Speaker 1: be disassociated completely with anything that has to do with
Speaker 1: even being brown. They want to be as close to
Speaker 1: white as possible. They are trying to gain access to
Speaker 1: the white community, and they will throw us under the
Speaker 1: bus and sometimes harm us in order to be there.
Speaker 1: And here's what I think, because people look at us
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you know, why do y'all say
Speaker 1: black and brown? Even with the conversation around fat Joe
Speaker 1: using the word the N word. Um, you know, people
Speaker 1: people are like, Tamika, you know, why haven't you said anything?
Speaker 1: And I do think that being a New Yorker, especially
Speaker 1: a New Yorker from the hood is very different. I'm
Speaker 1: sure in l A there's some places like that as well,
Speaker 1: where black and Latino people grow up so close together
Speaker 1: that you don't even Because when I lived in the projects,
Speaker 1: it was a black family, a Latino family, a black family.
Speaker 1: Like we ate food together, we did everything together. I
Speaker 1: don't know a life without those individuals who I grew
Speaker 1: up with. Now, when I went to school the Catholic church, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: and because I went to a Catholic school, the nun
Speaker 1: who ran the church and the school, she's the one
Speaker 1: who put in us sort of a racial dynamic or
Speaker 1: made me feel like I was less than as an
Speaker 1: African American or a black girl. When I was next
Speaker 1: to Mariel and Marciel, who are our two sisters, right,
Speaker 1: there are two twins who are beautiful, beautiful Latino sisters,
Speaker 1: and they are my girls. We are super cool. Loved
Speaker 1: them down. But when I was young, there were people
Speaker 1: who tried to pit us against one another. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I feel like I hate to say it,
Speaker 1: but the people who introduced the racial dynamics was the
Speaker 1: white folks in the school, because otherwise we didn't know
Speaker 1: nothing about that. Because you know, what it is. Would
Speaker 1: there's a proximity to whiteness with Latinos, right because this
Speaker 1: trade hair lighter skin, so they're identified closer to them,
Speaker 1: and those people who want to identify closer to the
Speaker 1: white people are able to. And there are those who
Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, they don't want to be
Speaker 1: involved in this, this racial dynamic. They want you know,
Speaker 1: they want to stand for equity. So it's always been
Speaker 1: that situation. Like like you said, we grew I grew
Speaker 1: up in the Bronx where my next door, everybody on
Speaker 1: my floor except me was Puerto Rican or Dominican. You know.
Speaker 1: The next to the neighbor was Dominican, the guy next
Speaker 1: to me, Jose, They re Puerto Rican, and then I
Speaker 1: guess the other person over here was Puerto Rican. So
Speaker 1: we and we grew up like family. We was ind
Speaker 1: and out of each other's house every day, you know,
Speaker 1: So the dynamic there we didn't know, you yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and then you know, people start
Speaker 1: making you see the divide every now and then there
Speaker 1: would be these little racial things that happened before the
Speaker 1: most part, we grew up as family, you know, and
Speaker 1: so you know, not everybody has that because there's certain
Speaker 1: things like in Alabama, where my mother is from, there
Speaker 1: are no Latinos. The Mexican community has just moved in
Speaker 1: with the like a Mexican restaurant, but other than that,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know where they live because I
Speaker 1: sure I've never seen them walking up and down the
Speaker 1: past of my grandmother's community, you know. So I'm sure
Speaker 1: that there are certain places around the nation where there
Speaker 1: is no The only thing they know is white and black, right,
Speaker 1: and most of the time there's literally no relationship to
Speaker 1: the white people. So I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know anyway we should move on. I just we're
Speaker 1: trying to figure this out, this conversation around the Black
Speaker 1: and Brown coalition. When I think of somebode like Carmen
Speaker 1: perez Um, you know, and I think of other Latino
Speaker 1: sisters and brothers who are in this movement with us,
Speaker 1: it is very difficult for me to leave them behind
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about issues, because I know they face
Speaker 1: some the same things that we face. But I also
Speaker 1: know that there's a lot more work that has to
Speaker 1: be done by our Latino brothers and sisters to show
Speaker 1: up for us as Black people and to make sure
Speaker 1: that you know we we we can keep it clear
Speaker 1: that we're one family. So I guess, on one hand,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a little bit of hypocrisy that exists
Speaker 1: in all of us because we all we talk about
Speaker 1: For me, fatiates from the Bronx, like every quarto Rican
Speaker 1: I know, up until I got into this movement, being honest,
Speaker 1: the word nigga only have made us angry coming from
Speaker 1: white people, right me and my my spinish tyr, My
Speaker 1: nigga was good. This is just how we talk like
Speaker 1: every day, my nigga nigga. That is a community that
Speaker 1: is a everyday communication for us in the Bronx. Black
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican people communicate with each other like that. When
Speaker 1: it was a racial slur, when we heard a Hispanic
Speaker 1: person call you a monkey, then that's when we we
Speaker 1: now use trying to be racist. We knew we heard
Speaker 1: more no or we heard monkey is something. You know.
Speaker 1: This was a direct ratio intention. But the word nigga
Speaker 1: was just our regular dialogue with each other. It's also
Speaker 1: how people say it. White people can't say at all period,
Speaker 1: not now, But it's also how people say it when
Speaker 1: some people some Latinos do use it in a derogatory way.
Speaker 1: I'm not I've never heard it inside of our community,
Speaker 1: like I've never heard uh, Hispanic or Latino person say
Speaker 1: the word nigga. And it made me feel like yeah,
Speaker 1: because even in a fight, the Latinos in our communities
Speaker 1: might be like, nigga, what's up? Like And just so again,
Speaker 1: I recognized the hypocrisy, recognized hypocrisy, and recognized it's like anything.
Speaker 1: If I got my friend, the things that offend don't
Speaker 1: offend me about my friend, don't mean it. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna offend somebody else when they do it. The reality
Speaker 1: we need to we need to to move on and
Speaker 1: talk about our topic for today. But I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought that up because that takes that takes us to
Speaker 1: the conversation that has been viral about coach Stormy and
Speaker 1: Tammy who when I showed up a day late to
Speaker 1: their conference after which is called girl hold my hand, um.
Speaker 1: But by the time I got there, they were already
Speaker 1: viral about something that happened the day before. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about it a little bit later on. But it is
Speaker 1: very true that what the way that you may speak
Speaker 1: to your friend's cool with y'all, but when other people
Speaker 1: hear it, they are gonna be they may be offended
Speaker 1: by what they hear, which is why sometimes people don't
Speaker 1: need to hear everything, because the Internet needs to be unplugged.
Speaker 1: But we gotta get to our topic. But I forgot
Speaker 1: that I have to make sure today I do my
Speaker 1: thought of the thing, because my thought of the day
Speaker 1: today is so durn, like just it's not so much
Speaker 1: good because it's actually not good, but it's more so important.
Speaker 1: You know that people watch people more than they work,
Speaker 1: Like this is something that you what was you gonna say?
Speaker 1: People watch people more than they work? And you know
Speaker 1: I was. I posted something last week where p Diddy Puffy,
Speaker 1: I still call him Puffy, y'all. You know, everybody got
Speaker 1: their own thing, love Love brother, where he was talking
Speaker 1: about how difficult success is, like how hard you have
Speaker 1: to go to be successful. And you know, some people
Speaker 1: will say, well that is you know, you're killing yourself,
Speaker 1: you're working too hard. And I get that. I'm not
Speaker 1: sitting here advocating for you know, not taking care of
Speaker 1: your family or vacation or resting, so just working so hard.
Speaker 1: But what I do know is that if you'll spend
Speaker 1: more of your time watching other people and wanting to
Speaker 1: figure out how to diminish their value and or call
Speaker 1: them out, and you know, sit up and and and
Speaker 1: and really be motivated by jealousy and envy. And you
Speaker 1: will never say that like most people, they will never say,
Speaker 1: I'm being motivated by the jealousy and envy in my heart.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna say. They're gonna say, nah, it's because
Speaker 1: things ain't the way it's supposed to be. And somebody
Speaker 1: should have gave me this, and somebody should have did
Speaker 1: this for me, and somebody should have liked because that's
Speaker 1: what we love to do, is to complain about other
Speaker 1: people and try to figure out ways to expose them,
Speaker 1: deny them, disrespect them. Even people who disguise themselves as
Speaker 1: your friend, they're the main ones to do it. And
Speaker 1: and I think people don't realize that the hate that's
Speaker 1: in you is what's stopping you. It's not who is
Speaker 1: in your way. It's not to me, Mallory is your problem.
Speaker 1: It's not my son is the problem. It's the hate
Speaker 1: that's in you that's stopping you from getting where you're gonna.
Speaker 1: We used to have a saying in my old job
Speaker 1: that you can't be big and little at the same time.
Speaker 1: You have to choose one or the other. Because if
Speaker 1: you little, everything you touch is gonna be just as
Speaker 1: little as you are. You're never going to accomplish your
Speaker 1: goals and be and and fulfill the greatness that God
Speaker 1: has placed within you. If you're busy watching other people
Speaker 1: and having a why not need and I why them mentality,
Speaker 1: especially when you sit around and and claim, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: i'm I'm real, I'm for the people, I'm this and that,
Speaker 1: and all you do all the time is trying to
Speaker 1: tear down people, and particularly tear down black women. It's
Speaker 1: not then you you're a hater, that's what that is
Speaker 1: the only thing in your way. Because I know people.
Speaker 1: I know people who are brilliant, they're smart, they are um,
Speaker 1: they have all the things. But the little bit of hate,
Speaker 1: that little envious behavior at jealousy that you carry, that's
Speaker 1: blocking you from your greatness. It's blocking you from getting
Speaker 1: what you want to go. And I always say, you
Speaker 1: know when you if you look at me, because I
Speaker 1: know that I am I don't know all the things right,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not the most politically educated. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to use all the big words. Sometimes it takes
Speaker 1: me longer to catch concepts and understand things. But somehow
Speaker 1: I have been successful, and I'm in a position where
Speaker 1: I have influence right, where people respect me, where there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people out here who have been
Speaker 1: impacted by not And I'm not talking about our work
Speaker 1: on a big scale. I'm talking about just me and
Speaker 1: my peer to peer relationships that I have with people
Speaker 1: who have helped to put them in position. And I
Speaker 1: am blessed in that way. And I really truly do
Speaker 1: attribute a large part of that to the fact that
Speaker 1: I don't walk around watching other people and hating on
Speaker 1: who ain't got what, and who's over there, and who's
Speaker 1: over there and I don't like this person, and trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to take shots against people who
Speaker 1: I have once sat and broke bread with. That's not
Speaker 1: my personality. That's just not who I am. So when
Speaker 1: I sit and look at the difference between me and
Speaker 1: some of the other individuals who people watch me and
Speaker 1: who have so much ship to say about me, I
Speaker 1: realized that the difference between you and me is hate.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that's different. I say that I
Speaker 1: say all the time, if you pay attention to somebody
Speaker 1: long enough, you'll realize why they're not successful. Because I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people who are talented, they're smart,
Speaker 1: they have skills, all these things, and you'd be like, damn,
Speaker 1: why this person ain't got this and this and that,
Speaker 1: and if you you stay around them long enough, especially
Speaker 1: if they're not really young, so they just have matured
Speaker 1: into a certain space. But if you hang around um,
Speaker 1: grown adult people who have yet to have reached a
Speaker 1: level of success, you'll be able to tell why it's
Speaker 1: it's it's certain things, character flaws that they have, And
Speaker 1: that's a character flow. When when you you know, like
Speaker 1: I have no problem right when I think somebody is detrimental,
Speaker 1: completely detrimental to what it is that we represent or
Speaker 1: we to our culture, I don't have a problem calling
Speaker 1: that out of I think you are complete sucker, then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call that. That's something that I need to
Speaker 1: save these babies from you. I need to save the
Speaker 1: culture from you, because you've done nothing to add to
Speaker 1: this culture. But there are people that I have fundamental
Speaker 1: differences with, right. We have different ideologies, we have different
Speaker 1: ways of going about things. And even though I don't
Speaker 1: agree with your your path to UM, you know, to
Speaker 1: our salvation and to the evolution of our culture. Even
Speaker 1: though we may have different paths, I don't need to
Speaker 1: call you out because we do it differently. I know
Speaker 1: that you add some value to this culture. If I
Speaker 1: know that you add value, I don't have to talk
Speaker 1: bad about you just because you might be in in
Speaker 1: the competition. People might try to pit us against each
Speaker 1: other because they see us in the same way. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't see that as an issue. I believe that
Speaker 1: was for me. I'm gonna get so I don't see
Speaker 1: myself having to do anything to pull you down for
Speaker 1: me to get higher. But some people feel that. People
Speaker 1: feel that somebody who's who is influence you in their space,
Speaker 1: who does something and it takes away from them. Nobody
Speaker 1: can't dem in my life. And that's what people don't understand.
Speaker 1: I think that's what we are. We're in an error
Speaker 1: right now where when you look at just look at
Speaker 1: the whole, it's so many different people in the movement.
Speaker 1: This in the movement, I want to call out BLM
Speaker 1: right and it's like for me, even if for you
Speaker 1: to call out BLM where we where we can actually
Speaker 1: say it is the biggest civil rights movement. In his
Speaker 1: read it's document social justice. So I would say social Well,
Speaker 1: there can be a difference. It's argument. Some people put
Speaker 1: it that sem right, some people say, Joseph, social justice.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, we've known that there's so much good
Speaker 1: that's come out of it. We know that they are
Speaker 1: historical things that have never happened in history that black
Speaker 1: people were able to benefit from. Right, So for us
Speaker 1: to try to tear that down, knowing that it was
Speaker 1: beneficial to a lot of different things, We've seen you know,
Speaker 1: historical um judgments. We've seen laws being changed, we've seen
Speaker 1: convictions that never had, We seen finances go into black
Speaker 1: community that we've never seen. We've seen people be exalted
Speaker 1: into different you know, areas based on the fact that
Speaker 1: we said that black lives matter. We've watched those things
Speaker 1: that we cannot deny those things happen. So for you
Speaker 1: to want to tear down something that did that instead
Speaker 1: of saying, okay, let me figure out what they did
Speaker 1: wrong or this and that, let me fill that gap,
Speaker 1: let me because I don't have to tear that down
Speaker 1: in order for what it is that I'm doing to
Speaker 1: be successful. I don't even have to do that, but
Speaker 1: that See. But the problem because there are different types
Speaker 1: of people. There are some people who are critiquing Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter and not realizing or at least I feel
Speaker 1: like they don't realize that they're lending their voice too
Speaker 1: a larger movement that is trying to destroy our coming
Speaker 1: together around a particular theory. So there's those people who
Speaker 1: I think they just don't really they think they're just
Speaker 1: one person speaking, or two people or tend people speaking,
Speaker 1: and they don't know that that is exactly what the
Speaker 1: enemy needs to fuel its opportunity to say. Ain't none
Speaker 1: of them people that was out there saying Black lives
Speaker 1: matter ship not just three women or or one woman
Speaker 1: or however you want to boil it down. But the
Speaker 1: whole movement is trash, right, So that's that's one thing.
Speaker 1: Then there are people who, because they're in the process
Speaker 1: of a money grab, they all they want is money.
Speaker 1: They're thinking about the money, they want, the money they
Speaker 1: should have got the money they need, the money, money, money, money, money.
Speaker 1: They're motivated solely by that they know what black lives
Speaker 1: matter as a movement has done to bring black people
Speaker 1: together and the benefits that have come from it, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that there are things the organization could have
Speaker 1: done much better and you know, different and much better,
Speaker 1: and they know the value because some of them were involved,
Speaker 1: but because of the money grab, they have lost the
Speaker 1: sense of understanding that, Hey, even though I'm pissed about
Speaker 1: this thing, I know, I know that these folks, this
Speaker 1: larger world does not want us to even believe that
Speaker 1: our lives matter, and therefore I have to be smart
Speaker 1: and how I move. But but money is the root
Speaker 1: of people. It's the route of people's evil or evil
Speaker 1: or whatever. And what happens is that first they coming
Speaker 1: after after they go after BLM, then it's after me,
Speaker 1: then it's after so and so, because all along people
Speaker 1: are looking at somebody else's ship, their life there, whatever
Speaker 1: they got going on, and they're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how do I tear that person down or try to
Speaker 1: to try to um to try to put a a
Speaker 1: damper on their credibility so that they are no longer
Speaker 1: able to have access to what they have because I
Speaker 1: don't have it, and so I I can't speak to
Speaker 1: what it is, you know, with these with other folks.
Speaker 1: I can't speak to the BLM know. But but what
Speaker 1: let me just finish. I can't speak to the BLM
Speaker 1: space in terms of who they are, where they come from,
Speaker 1: and all of that, because I only know very limited
Speaker 1: information about all of them. Right and by the way,
Speaker 1: I know these three different women in very different ways,
Speaker 1: and I could tell you positive things about each one
Speaker 1: of them. So this is not about that. I can
Speaker 1: only speak on until freedom first. But right now I'm
Speaker 1: not even talking about until freedom. I'm talking about Tamika Mallory.
Speaker 1: And I would like to say, for the record again
Speaker 1: for all the haters who are watching and listening, thirty
Speaker 1: years of my life, I have worked my ass or okay,
Speaker 1: I have sat in rooms where I was not allowed
Speaker 1: to speak, where I was not allowed to even have
Speaker 1: an opinion, where my job was to serve coffee and
Speaker 1: tea and to and to be there to serve other individuals.
Speaker 1: I have moved up the ranks of the movement. I
Speaker 1: have supported other people. I've supported other organizations. I have
Speaker 1: trucked my ass back and forth on trains, buses and
Speaker 1: wherever is necessary to be there to be a part
Speaker 1: of to lend my voice, my skills and my services
Speaker 1: two different aspects of our movement. I have put into work.
Speaker 1: And what I want to tell people is if I
Speaker 1: swear to you that my model, it is a model
Speaker 1: that is what's good for the goose, is good for
Speaker 1: the gander. Work and stop hating so much work, and
Speaker 1: stop sitting around looking at other people and people watching
Speaker 1: and feeling like, why not me? Why not me? Because
Speaker 1: that's the problem, because you can well surpass me in
Speaker 1: what you know and how you speak and all the
Speaker 1: things that you have that I may not be blessed with.
Speaker 1: But the thing that is is about me. I have
Speaker 1: been humbled, and I have been in service, and I
Speaker 1: have not participated in tearing the people down for my
Speaker 1: own success. That is what I think is the secret
Speaker 1: source to the Tamika Mallory story. And I suggest that
Speaker 1: people get them a story that looks similar business. It's sad,
Speaker 1: we understand time, but you know we're used to it though.
Speaker 1: But you know what, here's my shade. They say that
Speaker 1: if you was watching chapter two, chapter three is gonna
Speaker 1: blow your mind because I am on my way to
Speaker 1: the next level. And it's nothing that you and your
Speaker 1: haten masks can do to stop me from where what
Speaker 1: it is that God has for me and my life.
Speaker 1: Just know you can't stop period, if you kill me,
Speaker 1: if you took my life today, my legacy is still
Speaker 1: gonna be greater than yours. So talking about moving on,
Speaker 1: moving on, moving on from the haters, now we should.
Speaker 1: Now we could go to the topic. I was gonna
Speaker 1: talk about Coach Stormy and Tammy Price, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put that in another episode because you know it's just
Speaker 1: you said it. I mean, anyway, you already summed it up.
Speaker 1: The point is that the way you speak to your
Speaker 1: friends sometime it's not necessarily good for the world to
Speaker 1: hear because people won't won't understand it. And me being
Speaker 1: there in the space with them the next day after
Speaker 1: the situation went viral, you know, Tammy is not oppressed,
Speaker 1: she's not embarrassed, she's not being stripped of her womanhood,
Speaker 1: none of that. Actually, she's a very strong young woman.
Speaker 1: They have a wonderful relationship. They treated me well and
Speaker 1: they treated one another well. But I do know I
Speaker 1: and first of all, and by the way, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have used the word hood rat. I wouldn't have used it.
Speaker 1: I know, I say it. I say it, but I
Speaker 1: probably would not have used it to talk to my
Speaker 1: friend in front of a camera. Right, So I get that,
Speaker 1: I get what has struck a nerve than some people.
Speaker 1: But I also know that the way in which they
Speaker 1: were communicating is the way that they're comfortable talking to
Speaker 1: one another. And not every friend, not every conversation with
Speaker 1: your friends. It's going to sound good to a person
Speaker 1: who's listening, and so that is you know, that's just
Speaker 1: something again, it's the hypocrisy of life. Right. We could
Speaker 1: sit with Joe and talk and say words and then
Speaker 1: and the in word and whatever, but we're not going
Speaker 1: to be okay with other people using the word. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I just thought I would weighing on that. Now on
Speaker 1: this other topic, those on a serious topic today, this
Speaker 1: issue of women's health. We have a guest coming up
Speaker 1: today that is going to, UM, I think, give us
Speaker 1: a lot of clarity on things that we kind of
Speaker 1: throw out in the world. Everybody does men, women, Everybody
Speaker 1: throws out these concepts around how to take kid ourselves.
Speaker 1: We're always talking about um you know. Now we're talking
Speaker 1: more about how women are literally dying more black women
Speaker 1: are dying more than any other group of women based
Speaker 1: upon you know, the lack of care, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it is just a self a self awareness issue
Speaker 1: and are in our communities we just haven't talked about
Speaker 1: certain things. And I always you know, it's so many
Speaker 1: different think ways that you can address this topic. First
Speaker 1: of all, we've talked about many times the fact that
Speaker 1: most women, most women not some most not. They may
Speaker 1: not all agree in public, but most women have a
Speaker 1: very difficult time having orgasms. They're faking it during sex. Often.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of women who are dealing with
Speaker 1: physical challenges or or vaginal challenges that they don't even
Speaker 1: talk about. A lot of men who don't even know
Speaker 1: how to help a woman take care of her vagina.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like, yo, the COUCHI business is
Speaker 1: a real serious business. The business of the couchie. It's
Speaker 1: a it is it is a very precious place. It's
Speaker 1: almost like a new born baby all every day. You know,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, now that I have my
Speaker 1: grand baby, I realized how precious he is. And you
Speaker 1: you know, you're holding her and did it. A couchie
Speaker 1: is just that precious as a newborn every single day.
Speaker 1: It has to be clean properly, it has to be
Speaker 1: treated properly. You have to fill yourself with the right things.
Speaker 1: It's a lot to taking care of a COUCHI and
Speaker 1: and and you know, and I don't know that men
Speaker 1: are even taught any of the stuff. We are also
Speaker 1: taught incorrectly, but I don't I don't feel like men
Speaker 1: know ship about how to take care of vagina most man,
Speaker 1: I'm sure something do. I mean, we were you know,
Speaker 1: my mother told my sister how to take care of vagina.
Speaker 1: She ain't never come to me and said, boy, this
Speaker 1: is how you take care a woman's with gina. That's
Speaker 1: not like really a conversation that we have is what
Speaker 1: is the need for it? Right, what's the need for it?
Speaker 1: Somebody to come. I mean, I hear what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but I think I think maybe that's something that you
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't do. Did you ever sit down me, Did
Speaker 1: you ever sit down with Tarik and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is how you take care of your women's coaching,
Speaker 1: and these are the things you need to know. What
Speaker 1: did you ever have that conversation? Now, when he was young,
Speaker 1: I messed that up, but as he got older, I
Speaker 1: would tell him things about washing his hands, brushing his teeth,
Speaker 1: making sure that he's taking care of a woman's vagina,
Speaker 1: or taking care of himself by the way, right, like
Speaker 1: because washing your hands, rushing yountee, taking care of your
Speaker 1: own hygiene, that's not so much just about somebody else,
Speaker 1: but it's it's really about take care of yourself. And
Speaker 1: as you take care of you, it helps the woman's volga,
Speaker 1: I guess is what they call it. And I think
Speaker 1: it's volga. Let me go look that word up, um
Speaker 1: to be healthy. So you know, I feel like we
Speaker 1: do need to teach that, and there is a purpose
Speaker 1: for it, and it's certainly a purpose for men to
Speaker 1: learn that. Half the time they think they're doing something
Speaker 1: sexually that they're not doing because it's not working that well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I guess I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta thought about that. We're talking. I want to talk
Speaker 1: to our expert and get her opinion about what I
Speaker 1: thought about. Okay, I can imagine what you will say.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid for this conversation. I don't know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna say, but um, I will say, I am I'm
Speaker 1: happy to have a woman come on the show today
Speaker 1: that I know. She deals with all the aspects, not
Speaker 1: just the couchie, but also the body, and she talks
Speaker 1: about help and men as well. Her name is Coach
Speaker 1: Jesse and her company is called the Detox Now, the
Speaker 1: Detox Down. You see everything, Penophora. Everyone is basically telling
Speaker 1: us it all connects back to your health. Yeah, health
Speaker 1: is wealth. I tell people all the time, you can't
Speaker 1: get a dumb I don't care how much money you got.
Speaker 1: If you ain't healthy, you ain't gonna live to spend it.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, the Detox Now. She's a woman's health activist,
Speaker 1: so that means that she's actively doing things every day.
Speaker 1: Not just a woman's hold expert, but she's an activist.
Speaker 1: And she also is a fibroid survivor who dealt with
Speaker 1: some issues. I'll let her talk about her issues. And
Speaker 1: she's turned to be a nutritionist because she believes that
Speaker 1: food is directly connected. And you know, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: that Coach Jesse is gonna come to educate us and
Speaker 1: talk about what he is that's going on with the Coach. So,
Speaker 1: Coach Jesse, I'm so excited you are here. I'm always
Speaker 1: having to fight and defend women and our health, women's
Speaker 1: health by myself. So it's so good to have you
Speaker 1: on today. Thank you for being a guest on Street Politicians.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Listen, you gotta
Speaker 1: circle with you. You're not you by yourself. We got
Speaker 1: we got your back, got your back. I don't understand
Speaker 1: this because I'm always outnumbered on this show. Is we
Speaker 1: got woman producers, we got her. She's like five women alone,
Speaker 1: so she like she needs you, I need to help. No,
Speaker 1: we haven't been on this show often, by the way.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, okay, I guess it's getting more balanced.
Speaker 1: It's getting there. We're getting appreciate you. Thanks you for
Speaker 1: coming on, Coach Jesse, Thank you for having me. I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful, so grateful, So Coach Jesse. Before you came on,
Speaker 1: we were talking about women's coaches, right, she was talking
Speaker 1: about it covered things. Let's make it clear because I
Speaker 1: not need she and you know it's such taboo, right,
Speaker 1: it's such tabool. It's not taboo because everyone is using
Speaker 1: one or or some way, one in one way or
Speaker 1: the other either coming here like how you are born
Speaker 1: into the world and or um you know, or and
Speaker 1: or actually in having sexual interactions or whatever, you're using
Speaker 1: it as a woman's on your body, but we don't
Speaker 1: like to talk about it. It's taboo to discuss the topics.
Speaker 1: And I think that because it's taboo, you have so
Speaker 1: many things going wrong and ways in which we are
Speaker 1: not taking care of the health of our vaginas because
Speaker 1: we don't talk about it. And I was the conversation
Speaker 1: that we were having. I was asking my son, like
Speaker 1: who taught you what? And like what did they say?
Speaker 1: What's the words they used? And where did you get
Speaker 1: most of your information growing up? Because I feel like
Speaker 1: so many young men, even my own son, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I had the right conversations with him. So
Speaker 1: what's your take on that topic? Well, I love what
Speaker 1: you said about you know, when people don't talk about things,
Speaker 1: you know, things go wrong. And you know I heard
Speaker 1: you know, Grandma used to say bad things happen in
Speaker 1: the dark. You know what I'm saying, And the dark
Speaker 1: is really it's ignorance, um, And I think we do,
Speaker 1: you know, we have to come out of that that
Speaker 1: time in our lives where it was like, well this
Speaker 1: is taboo, because taboo is what made it shameful. It's
Speaker 1: what made it something that we we remained ignorant about
Speaker 1: and we didn't communicate where we had issues. I think
Speaker 1: it's very important that sexual education, menstrual education, UM, sexual
Speaker 1: health education, and anatomy is taught with your sons and
Speaker 1: your daughters the same. Okay, because we are our community,
Speaker 1: our family, our family unit, whether it's father and mother,
Speaker 1: who ever is having those conversations, we need to know that. Um,
Speaker 1: it needs to be brought into the light, right because
Speaker 1: when we bring things to the light, then we can
Speaker 1: see what's really happening. We can feel open about having conversations.
Speaker 1: It's like when people see a little girl save vagina, like, yes,
Speaker 1: let her say vagina, thank you. She has not so
Speaker 1: you're not you don't think the JJ and poll pone
Speaker 1: and two two and all of that, we shouldn't be
Speaker 1: using those terms. There's a lot of debate around that, right. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't mind saying that JJ because it's
Speaker 1: like we have a cute nickname for a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Right However, but she should always know vagina and she
Speaker 1: should not feel ashamed of saying vagina, right because it
Speaker 1: needs to be taken care of just like every other
Speaker 1: part of us. And because there's so much that, so
Speaker 1: much havoc that can be ripped, whether it's conditioned disease, infections,
Speaker 1: if we are not really intentional about care, intentional about
Speaker 1: how we talk about it and making sure that the
Speaker 1: awareness and the education is accurate. Yeah, yeah, yeah for me,
Speaker 1: you know, and I appreciate this conversation, But as as
Speaker 1: a man throughout years, you know, I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of women are aware of the hygiene of the
Speaker 1: vagan vagina, the vagina like a lot of there's there
Speaker 1: are there are a lot more women who don't smell
Speaker 1: fresh than actually do. And I'm just trying to figure
Speaker 1: out like why, what like what does that come from?
Speaker 1: What is what does that mean? And do they even know?
Speaker 1: It's like for me, I think a lot of them,
Speaker 1: and they don't seem to be aware, you know. And
Speaker 1: it's not like they shore these are grown women. They
Speaker 1: don't really seem to be aware. So I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, like what does that come from? How do
Speaker 1: we combat it? Like, what what is what's going on?
Speaker 1: From men everywhere? We want to know. But that's what
Speaker 1: that takes us to what you were talking about the
Speaker 1: care because you see things like men that don't realize
Speaker 1: that before they have oral sex with a woman, they
Speaker 1: need to brush the they need to wash their hands after,
Speaker 1: like things get annoying. But if you're holding your cell
Speaker 1: phone and you're handling your keys, so after you wash
Speaker 1: your hands, if you pick up your cell phone that
Speaker 1: hasn't been clean and then you want to put your
Speaker 1: hand in a woman's vagina, that's how these odors and
Speaker 1: other things happen. So it's gotta be if you're having
Speaker 1: sex with people or a person, that person has to
Speaker 1: be as informed. I would think about things that they
Speaker 1: need to do so that you're helping one another. But
Speaker 1: there are other reasons. So you go ahead for me.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to say one thing for me. Sorry guest,
Speaker 1: we don't have a guest on this show. I'm looking
Speaker 1: to that, but I just want to say just to
Speaker 1: combat that, because I have all of those things you're
Speaker 1: talking about thing my life. I didn't do it with
Speaker 1: certain women right, and they still weren't They didn't smell,
Speaker 1: like I didn't wash my hand every time, I didn't
Speaker 1: resh my I didn't do all of those things and
Speaker 1: they still didn't smell so I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if that is the direct correlation to little yes. And
Speaker 1: then I got something to say, Well, I have one
Speaker 1: word that's very important. Well, two of them actually food
Speaker 1: and stress. Okay, so two things that really impact our
Speaker 1: pH balance. Um, and pH balance affects what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: my brother and my son, okay, my son, when you're
Speaker 1: talking about everything from the the odor, the stickiness, the texture, um,
Speaker 1: these things are affected by our food what we consume,
Speaker 1: and our stress is affected by what we consume mentally
Speaker 1: and emotionally. Right, So think about that, um, when you
Speaker 1: are having high cortisol levels. And I say this because
Speaker 1: a lot of brothers are why a lot of women
Speaker 1: are stressed. Okay, A right, some of these toxic relationships,
Speaker 1: all right, so let's look at both sides of the
Speaker 1: of course, you know, and we have to love ourselves
Speaker 1: enough to keep toxic relationships out. Um. But then there's
Speaker 1: also what we're consuming food wise, it can throw off
Speaker 1: our pH balance. That's a big thing, okay. And a
Speaker 1: sugar is a big deal because it causes an overgrowth
Speaker 1: of candida. All right. A lot of times we're going
Speaker 1: back to the stress thing. What we eat to try
Speaker 1: to comfort ourselves. You eat things that are bad for us,
Speaker 1: things that are bad for our bodies. And then the
Speaker 1: other thing are the soaps. Okay, it's very important that
Speaker 1: we use things that are friendly to the cookie, friendly
Speaker 1: to the cookie. All right. Um. I say that because
Speaker 1: I have a daughter, she's eleven, and I'm already having
Speaker 1: your say no, no no, no, we don't use soap. If
Speaker 1: you don't have soap, you don't have a good a
Speaker 1: good wash that is um that supports your overall body. pH.
Speaker 1: Just use water, right because the soap will create all
Speaker 1: kinds of other habit right. So, and gut health is
Speaker 1: very connected to it as well with my song. So
Speaker 1: that goes back to the food because if your microbiome
Speaker 1: is in balance, which is your gut health, it will
Speaker 1: read havoca and that's where you have things like b
Speaker 1: V and yeast and all those things. I hope that helps.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say though, that it showed that
Speaker 1: some people you don't have to do with, some people
Speaker 1: don't have those issues, will do. But I think also
Speaker 1: the thing that and maybe the odor is one part,
Speaker 1: but one thing that we were already talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: My son is a lot of women don't even tell
Speaker 1: you about the discomfort that they're experiencing. I don't even
Speaker 1: know that something is going on, except if there is
Speaker 1: an older like that's at the point that it's at
Speaker 1: its worse when you will actually hear about it. But
Speaker 1: the burning sensation, the itchyness, and other things, you don't
Speaker 1: even know what's going on, and we will just hide
Speaker 1: it because in our minds, we're wired to think we
Speaker 1: have to please our man and have sex even when
Speaker 1: we're uncomfortable. Preach. I think, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: very unfortunate because just listening to me, and I don't
Speaker 1: even understand how women enjoy these like this mind state
Speaker 1: that a lot of women go into relationships with it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't even seem enjoyable, Like you saying we you
Speaker 1: told about you gotta please the man, you gotta have
Speaker 1: sex when you're uncomfortable. You you can't say things about this.
Speaker 1: You you're not really like she she was expressed earlier
Speaker 1: that a lot of women aren't having organsts on like
Speaker 1: I don't even know why somebody if if if sex
Speaker 1: was like that to me, if it was taught that
Speaker 1: to me, and I had to deal I just don't
Speaker 1: even want to do it because I don't even I
Speaker 1: don't even for me, It's like, what is what? How
Speaker 1: do you enjoy it? When you have all of these
Speaker 1: things that you're actually dealing with that actually take you
Speaker 1: away from you not even clim maximums of the time.
Speaker 1: You're not comfortable, you're going through this, Well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like what what is? What is the good part about it? Well?
Speaker 1: That presupposes that you're able to have a healthy relationship. Right,
Speaker 1: So if we have a healthy relationship, then you can
Speaker 1: talk about these things. Right, I have a safe relationship
Speaker 1: where I'm able to be vulnerable. I am healthy and
Speaker 1: in our our communicationless level is healthy where we can
Speaker 1: talk about those things that we kind of feel very
Speaker 1: very insecure about. But now take it on the flip
Speaker 1: side where a woman is really just hungering for security. Um,
Speaker 1: what's on the flip side of what you talked about
Speaker 1: my song? Right? So if I say I'm uncomfortable, if
Speaker 1: i say I'm not happy, if I say all these things,
Speaker 1: there's a culture out there that somebody's gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I'm going onto the next person. Are you too much
Speaker 1: to handle? Right? Or this is too much drama um,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of fear that's connected
Speaker 1: to it, and that to me goes back to the
Speaker 1: toxicity of wait a minute. You know, my intimacy is
Speaker 1: very special, and that means I only want to have
Speaker 1: it in a relationship where somebody is is safe enough
Speaker 1: where I can say this is cool, this is not cool.
Speaker 1: I'm going through something. I'm going through a health challenge
Speaker 1: and you're I'm not afraid that you're gonna walk away.
Speaker 1: And that starts with valuing ourselves enough to say that
Speaker 1: I deserve that right. How much of this do you
Speaker 1: think is like Grandmama and them faults and you know,
Speaker 1: great Grandmama's fault because we have been taught to please
Speaker 1: our man and don't worry about you getting pleased because
Speaker 1: that's not important. Sex is really about a woman giving
Speaker 1: a man what he needs. So how much of it
Speaker 1: do you think is just what we've been taught being
Speaker 1: You know, it's just wrong, like something And I know
Speaker 1: it because I heard plenty of that as a young
Speaker 1: person growing up. And the sad part about it, Coach Jesse,
Speaker 1: is you hardly heard anything because it was all the
Speaker 1: secrets going on in the room when they closed the
Speaker 1: door and they sat and then talked. The women and
Speaker 1: the men definitely didn't bring it up because if they
Speaker 1: talk to you about anything sexually related, that was a
Speaker 1: family crisis. So the only time you did hear something
Speaker 1: was when a person was telling you what you need
Speaker 1: to do for your man or how you that's it,
Speaker 1: Like you didn't really get any real sex education until
Speaker 1: you had your mentor that's it. And of course the
Speaker 1: soap thing, Yes, we learned about soap because all of
Speaker 1: us use the wrong soap at least once, and it
Speaker 1: set you on the only So what do you think
Speaker 1: how how much of it is our training from our
Speaker 1: older you know, grandparents specifically grandmother's absolutely, Um, you hit
Speaker 1: the nail right on the head, okay, because generationally, you know,
Speaker 1: think about even in the church, we were taught that
Speaker 1: you know that men need sex, but women, you know
Speaker 1: you need affection, right, and affection is not that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you need you need sexual pleasure. And that sets
Speaker 1: you apart me thinking like, okay, so it's not really
Speaker 1: about me being happy sexually, it's about him being happy sexually.
Speaker 1: That's the wrong path, right, And then it was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta plead Like you said, grandma, you
Speaker 1: gotta please your man, you gotta please your spouse, you
Speaker 1: gotta please your partner. But what about my needs? So
Speaker 1: we have been conditioned and correct we've been conditioned to
Speaker 1: not even think about that our needs in that regard
Speaker 1: and how they need to be met, and how we
Speaker 1: need to actually have a value for our own sexual
Speaker 1: pleasure and health are in our own enjoyment. Right, that's
Speaker 1: a big deal. So when we were growing up, like
Speaker 1: you just said, only talk. Oh, oh, you're getting to
Speaker 1: be a woman. Now you got your cycle. What does
Speaker 1: that mean? Oh, that's because you could get pregnant. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: So it was not about you know, what that journey
Speaker 1: looks like, what that journey can look like. It was
Speaker 1: about what to protect you from. That was the condition, right.
Speaker 1: So it was very fear based. It wasn't based around possibility.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't based around you know, the kind
Speaker 1: of life you want to build and you want to
Speaker 1: actually create for yourself and it being a duality of
Speaker 1: both sides. So I think it's time out, like you know,
Speaker 1: it is time out for those kinds. There are things
Speaker 1: that traditions that are great, and then there are traditions
Speaker 1: that we need to throw out, just like the hamhocks.
Speaker 1: But we'll get to that later. So we skipped straight
Speaker 1: into this. We didn't even you know, we didn't get
Speaker 1: into you, like what what made you want to become
Speaker 1: a woman's health activists? Like what was your journey? Oh? Um,
Speaker 1: I like to say, I, you know, I became a
Speaker 1: women's health activists because I went through my own crisis. Um.
Speaker 1: I you know, at the age of thirty, I, UM,
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. I wanted to um, yeah, she's awesome
Speaker 1: as yeah. And he likes to say if you take
Speaker 1: care of it though, Um, so Hobby and I, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll be married four years and we were like, it's
Speaker 1: time to to to grow our family. And um, thirty
Speaker 1: years old, I was like, I'm feeling right, this is good.
Speaker 1: And we tried to conceive. Six months down the road,
Speaker 1: nothing's happening. Um. And I learned at that point when
Speaker 1: I went to the g y N that I was
Speaker 1: one of the of black women battling fibroids by age fifty. Now,
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was a pandemic. I just happen
Speaker 1: to know. I had five boards at that time, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what that meant, but that precipitated a journey
Speaker 1: of UM what I called my million dollar baby journey,
Speaker 1: because those fibroids that I battled for fourteen years actually
Speaker 1: caused infertility for ten years. Okay, infertility for ten years,
Speaker 1: which required me to have five IVF cycles. I know
Speaker 1: you hear the cash registering and when I say in
Speaker 1: vitro fertilization, because that's like dollars a pop right easily.
Speaker 1: And UM. In the middle of that a miscarriage which
Speaker 1: was devastating UM and being hospitalized for more than a
Speaker 1: hundred plus days combined UM. And even when we finally
Speaker 1: were con you conceived with the fifth IBF cycle, UM,
Speaker 1: we thought everything was fantastic. It was rate. This was
Speaker 1: if God had answered our prayers. UM. At twenty one weeks,
Speaker 1: I find out that the five boards have returned. And
Speaker 1: I had just had a myomectomy six months before this,
Speaker 1: not even UM which was my third five words surgery.
Speaker 1: The fibers had returned, and now where my baby was
Speaker 1: fighting for her life for the fire boards. And they
Speaker 1: told me that literally, the doctor said to me, you
Speaker 1: might want to consider terminating this pregnancy. That took us
Speaker 1: ten years to get okay, ten years to get to
Speaker 1: that point and you know, uh to make I know,
Speaker 1: you know, I said, uh, you know, we're people of
Speaker 1: faith and we're not giving up on this pregnancy and said, no, no,
Speaker 1: we it took us right there quit an important question
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to stop your story, but this
Speaker 1: is no Please. Did you have a moment of feeling
Speaker 1: like you're gonna lose your husband because you couldn't make
Speaker 1: this happen? Did you go through that or were you good? Solid?
Speaker 1: So great question? Um at the fourth IVF cycle after it, now,
Speaker 1: my husband is incredibly supportive. Shout out Mark Thompson, um uh.
Speaker 1: And he was always, you know, man of faith, very
Speaker 1: supportive always there. After our fourth IBS cycle, which was
Speaker 1: a failure, like I hit a wall and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what am I gonna do? I I
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. And he doubled down on the
Speaker 1: supporting opposite. He was like listen and he didn't because
Speaker 1: I felt at that need to me because you know
Speaker 1: what you were saying, like I have to give him
Speaker 1: a child, like you know that pressure. He was like no, no,
Speaker 1: I said, what do you I said, I said, let's pray.
Speaker 1: What what is God telling you? Because right now I
Speaker 1: don't even want another surgery. I don't want to like.
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to adopt. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because if I have another surgery, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be all kinds of complications. And he was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: he said, baby, I'm not gonna tell you what guy
Speaker 1: said to me. He said, because this is your body,
Speaker 1: I want you to pray and you decide whatever you choose.
Speaker 1: I'm rolling with that because this is your life that's
Speaker 1: on the line. And you know, I'm that That level
Speaker 1: of support and respect for me was huge, and I
Speaker 1: needed it because at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: needed to know that that decision was not because I
Speaker 1: was trying to please him, right that I knew that
Speaker 1: it was part of my destiny. So grateful, But I
Speaker 1: know I have a lot of clients, though, who have
Speaker 1: lost their spouses in the infertility journey. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of clients who have you know, have have been
Speaker 1: down that road and struggled in it. You know. I
Speaker 1: literally just had a client tell me the other day
Speaker 1: she's having her third miracle baby, and right now the
Speaker 1: marriages in crisis. Mhm, So continue on you you you
Speaker 1: went through so but fay so you know, so we
Speaker 1: went through the process of you know, I said no,
Speaker 1: we're not giving up, and they hospitalized me. I was
Speaker 1: in the hospital and they said, oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna make it seventy two hours. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do an emergency C section. This is this is
Speaker 1: this is a harbor because it went worse. Long story short,
Speaker 1: eight weeks later to the tune of eight weeks later
Speaker 1: because of a god, a Miracle's God, miraculous God that
Speaker 1: I served right that I was on the operating table
Speaker 1: because they said, we're gonna do a C section, this
Speaker 1: is time. Now the baby is actually healthy enough to
Speaker 1: come out. And um my heart stopped on the operating
Speaker 1: table and all I know I heard them say, Mrs Thompson,
Speaker 1: you're you know, we have to put you under because
Speaker 1: something's wrong. And I met. I learned the next day
Speaker 1: that I had a little girl. Thank god, I live
Speaker 1: to see it. Um. I was what you call a
Speaker 1: near miss, not immortality in black maternal health. Thank god. Um.
Speaker 1: But I had a little girl named Nia Thompson, who
Speaker 1: was born at two and a half pounds incredible. So
Speaker 1: my journey, I I like to say, when when I
Speaker 1: birthed her, she birthed me into this work. She burnt
Speaker 1: me into this purpose because I had no idea. God
Speaker 1: turned my test into a testimony. Because Essence published a
Speaker 1: profile of my story, it went viral and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, women all around the world telling me, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, your story has given me hope. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in this phase of the cycle. So that
Speaker 1: now made me say, wait a minute. I thought this
Speaker 1: was my help, my own personal health. But then I
Speaker 1: learned it was a pandemic. I learned it literally was
Speaker 1: affecting up to nine percent of black women and UM,
Speaker 1: and then I became UM an advocate and an activist
Speaker 1: because I said, wait a minute, you know, we can't
Speaker 1: be alone. I started off saying, God, we just can't
Speaker 1: be alone. We can't be uh silent and um, you know,
Speaker 1: suffering and silent. And that's really what sparked me on
Speaker 1: this journey to becoming an author and eventually founding our
Speaker 1: our online women's help platform called the detox now dot com.
Speaker 1: Tell us, you know, we we talked about one aspect
Speaker 1: of you know the big thing that I think everybody
Speaker 1: can enjoy that conversation and learn something from it. When
Speaker 1: we talk about women's couches. Absolutely, there's so many other
Speaker 1: things happening with us from a health perspective. What would
Speaker 1: you say as some of the what are you talking
Speaker 1: to your clients about the most, especially in our age demographic,
Speaker 1: which would be somewhere probably from maybe twenty five to
Speaker 1: fifty in there. What are some of the things that
Speaker 1: you're talking to us about. Yeah, I love that question.
Speaker 1: So you know, first of all, you know, first given
Speaker 1: on it, Tonka Mallory, because I have to say you
Speaker 1: inspired us, UM. You know, you know your book State
Speaker 1: of Emergency, UM really inspired my current campaign that we
Speaker 1: just launched. It's a p s A called you Know
Speaker 1: My Estrogen, My Body, My Choice, and it's all about
Speaker 1: the Black women's health, Black women's health State of Emergency,
Speaker 1: And the reason we're focusing on that is because we
Speaker 1: need to know what's going on with our estrogen. Estrogen
Speaker 1: is connected to if estrogen is too high or it's
Speaker 1: too low, It's connected to so many conditions and how
Speaker 1: it's affecting our body, and then what choices we have
Speaker 1: available to us because black women's health is in a
Speaker 1: state of emergency. We are suffering, we are infertile. As
Speaker 1: I mentioned, we are dying, especially specifically black women. You
Speaker 1: have women who are dealing with when I talk about
Speaker 1: the suffering, you know, women's pain. We just talked about
Speaker 1: it from women being little girls where our pain is normalized,
Speaker 1: all right, Our pain is normalized, and we're taught that
Speaker 1: it's you're you're bleeding heavy, you're having heavy cramping, you're heavy,
Speaker 1: heavy pain. Um, that's normal. And because we're told it's normal,
Speaker 1: and there's so many studies that say are pain is dismissed,
Speaker 1: which is why it leads to um, women dying all right,
Speaker 1: women being diagnosed too too late. Right, um. And so
Speaker 1: we're talking about the fact that, hey, if you're in pain,
Speaker 1: you're suffering. That's not okay. Right. Let us first of all,
Speaker 1: let's turn around and say, you know what the echo
Speaker 1: chamber that says from the dominant voices of the physicians
Speaker 1: and the family members that say it's okay that you're
Speaker 1: in pain, that is normal for black women to be
Speaker 1: in pain. Let's counter that echo chamber and say no,
Speaker 1: let's actually normalize balance. Let's normalize health. Let's normalize normalize healing.
Speaker 1: And that starts by saying, wait a minute, what is
Speaker 1: my pain telling me? Right? When we look at the
Speaker 1: statistics specifically of black women, as I mentioned up to women,
Speaker 1: black women have five words by age fifty, right, you
Speaker 1: know the symptoms that are associated with that. Then you
Speaker 1: have of black women are dealing with infertility. Leading causes
Speaker 1: of infertility are fibords, right, and then you have endomesriosis
Speaker 1: and pey costs. Um. Black women are i mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: three times more likely okay to have five words and
Speaker 1: up to ninety percent dealing with them um, dealing with infertility.
Speaker 1: And then when it comes to cancer, African American women,
Speaker 1: we have the highest mortality rate. Okay, so we're suffering,
Speaker 1: we're infertile, and we're dying and it's time to stop.
Speaker 1: So for us, it's you know what, let's first of all,
Speaker 1: expose the fact that it's not okay, a right, because
Speaker 1: it's we're told it's normal. Just shut up if you
Speaker 1: you go to the doctor, Oh, your pain is normal,
Speaker 1: it's just menstrual pain. No. But you know what, fast forward,
Speaker 1: do you know that that cycles that are that are heavy,
Speaker 1: very painful if they are unnoumed, untreated um and you're
Speaker 1: not dealing with the root issue. Their studies now they're
Speaker 1: even indicating that when women get into peri perimenopause, and
Speaker 1: you talked about that age, that those fibroids can actually
Speaker 1: lead to other cancers or actually become cancerous. And I've
Speaker 1: never heard them. It is a I've never heard. I well,
Speaker 1: I know now, but when I was young, no one
Speaker 1: ever told us that the menstrual cycle was a cleansing period.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything, but I just thought we had
Speaker 1: the curse of death that you just bled and it
Speaker 1: was basically associated with you're getting pregnant and that's it.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know anything about the fact that your
Speaker 1: body was actually cleansing itself and pumping out that was
Speaker 1: you know, no good. Oh, I guess the oxygen in
Speaker 1: the blood something about that. I heard something, and I
Speaker 1: still don't know all the details that I know you
Speaker 1: didn't clean that. So what's happening is your body prepares
Speaker 1: for once you have your cycle. Your body prepares for
Speaker 1: the ability to conceive every month, okay, and if you
Speaker 1: don't conceive, then it tears down, it sheds that lining
Speaker 1: every month. Okay, so that is a cleansing. And what's
Speaker 1: happening though, is when there is irregular cycles, there is
Speaker 1: a When I talked about estrogen being imbalanced, and what
Speaker 1: that means is estrogen is either too high or it's
Speaker 1: too low. Okay. If estrogen is dominant, it leads to
Speaker 1: conditions like fibroids, like p costs. It's it's um. It's
Speaker 1: instrumental in terms of setting the stage for the development
Speaker 1: of these conditions as well as even infertility issues, UM,
Speaker 1: thyroid issues, weight gain. A lot of women see weight
Speaker 1: gain and they just think. They don't realize it's actually
Speaker 1: connected to a hormone balance. Okay, they don't realize that
Speaker 1: it's telling them something. So we're wanting to educate women
Speaker 1: that you're pain, your symptoms are actually telling you something,
Speaker 1: and you know it's time to actually listen to them
Speaker 1: because otherwise you're now going to be having these conditions
Speaker 1: and at more advanced levels. And then when estrogen is
Speaker 1: too low, it's associated with things like osteoporosis and heart
Speaker 1: and heart issues. Right. Um. For my women who are
Speaker 1: in paramenopause stage or women who have had are in
Speaker 1: menopause where their estrogen is even low. Were right? Because
Speaker 1: of that, they're at high risk of osteoporosis. How do
Speaker 1: you check your estrogen level? It's a blood test, you
Speaker 1: get your doctors. But then remember, so there's the blood test,
Speaker 1: but your body is the first test. That's what we
Speaker 1: want to equip our women to know, right, what is
Speaker 1: my body telling me? All right? So the first education
Speaker 1: is your cycle is supposed to be normal. That means
Speaker 1: three what is a normal cycle? Three to five days
Speaker 1: of bleeding? All right? You're supposed to according to the
Speaker 1: Office of Women's Health, the National Institute of Health, you're
Speaker 1: only supposed to bleed about three to five tablespoons of blood, okay.
Speaker 1: And it's supposed to be just discomfort, not heavy pain. Okay.
Speaker 1: So and I know we see this our clients when
Speaker 1: they're on the other side, we see the happy period,
Speaker 1: all right, they live. So there are the clocks, not
Speaker 1: not that's you're not supposed to have plotting. That's only
Speaker 1: if your body is going through something. It's telling you something.
Speaker 1: There's either an abundance of estrogen your body is it's
Speaker 1: absolutely not art of a normal cycle, right, So that's
Speaker 1: telling you something. See you just said is clouding not normal. No,
Speaker 1: it's not part of a normal cycle. Right, So understanding
Speaker 1: if it's abnormal, let's look at and let's value our
Speaker 1: voices because something inside is used telling you this ain't right.
Speaker 1: You know when when? But but you're being countered. Remember
Speaker 1: those that echo chamber I talked about, You're being countered
Speaker 1: by echo chamber that says it's not bothering, you don't
Speaker 1: bother it, or no, that you just you know, black
Speaker 1: women just bleed heavy or no, you just have painful cycles,
Speaker 1: so you ignore it. And I like to say, if
Speaker 1: we don't listen to our our pain when it is
Speaker 1: a whisper, it will become a screen that literally uproots
Speaker 1: and it disrupts our lives. Right, So that's really important
Speaker 1: for us to become educated about it, and when we
Speaker 1: become educated about it, to know that we have solutions.
Speaker 1: Because the other thing we're told, why are black women
Speaker 1: the first three we are the highest recipients of HYS
Speaker 1: directories three to four times more likely. I was talking
Speaker 1: to a young woman twenty five years old, right, she's
Speaker 1: her testimonies incredible. And the other thing we did as
Speaker 1: part as candidate this campaign, we did an audit of
Speaker 1: several testimonies and oh my god, I can't wait. You know,
Speaker 1: we're posting them on the way they're actually on the website.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be amazing in terms of supporting women, because
Speaker 1: what we said is we have to put out stories
Speaker 1: that for people to actually hear that possibility of having
Speaker 1: a balanced life, that there's something possible outside of the
Speaker 1: hy directory you're told you're supposed to have, or the
Speaker 1: birth control they tell they tell you have to be
Speaker 1: on for non contraceptive reasons that actually lead to these
Speaker 1: other conditions because they caused estrogen dominance. Right, We're not
Speaker 1: told these things. Right. So she was told at twenty
Speaker 1: five years old, she was very small, but all all
Speaker 1: five big fire boards, she had a fire word, the
Speaker 1: chad fire words, with a belly about six months and
Speaker 1: size of a six months pregnancy. And they were like,
Speaker 1: you know what, you can't do anything to it. They
Speaker 1: didn't tell her any lifestyle changes, they didn't tell her
Speaker 1: anything she had in her power to do with it.
Speaker 1: And then the conversely, I have I have clients who
Speaker 1: right away they look at you said, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: you're in your forties, just go ahead and have HYS directory,
Speaker 1: don't care if you're you have planning, and it's not
Speaker 1: even just about having a baby, Tamka, it's because that
Speaker 1: organ is vital to your hormonal health, your uterus. Let's
Speaker 1: dismiss this idea that if you don't want to have children,
Speaker 1: it's okay to remove your uterus, because your uterus is
Speaker 1: so critical to your your body's overall hormonal health, which
Speaker 1: literally triggers and controls everything going on in your body,
Speaker 1: that it will literally disrupt everything and then you're trying
Speaker 1: to play catch up. Right, So for us, it's educating
Speaker 1: women that you don't have to live like that. You
Speaker 1: don't have to live like that. There are other options
Speaker 1: or surgery, you don't have to If you want to
Speaker 1: have surgery, that's up to you. But you also want
Speaker 1: to think about the root things that are in your control.
Speaker 1: I think it's up to seven percent of conditions and diseases,
Speaker 1: only seven percent are actually um driven by genetics. That
Speaker 1: means like nine per cent we have control of because
Speaker 1: it's social determinants. It is things like our nutrition, it's
Speaker 1: things like our stressed levels, right, our safety, our security,
Speaker 1: it's those things. Access to care. Access to health care, okay,
Speaker 1: those are things that affect our our overall health in
Speaker 1: our conditions. So it's it's providing solutions, providing education. That's
Speaker 1: the conversation we're having. That's the conversation. We're looking to
Speaker 1: normalize balance. We're looking to normalize balance. So just listening
Speaker 1: to you, you know, it's it's so much that we
Speaker 1: just don't know, right, Yeah, So, like, what are the
Speaker 1: what are the foods? Like, I know, I know that
Speaker 1: you're vegan, So what do you think the dangerous foods
Speaker 1: that intake that women are in taking that are detrimental
Speaker 1: to their bodies and to their health. Okay, great question,
Speaker 1: because I think that's one of the biggest um hurdles
Speaker 1: is the food. Right, food will be your medicine or
Speaker 1: it will be your poison. Um. And I want to
Speaker 1: start by dismissing the idea that the only way you
Speaker 1: can have a healthy diet is to be vegan, all right,
Speaker 1: or to be plant based, because it really is it
Speaker 1: depends on the severity of your condition. It depends on
Speaker 1: what your condition is. Right, And then there's this is
Speaker 1: for me, it's take steps towards help. So there are
Speaker 1: things that the them when you talk about like the
Speaker 1: biggest culprits. The biggest culprits are going to be UM
Speaker 1: things that are like soy based, UM, meat that are
Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna have meat, you want to
Speaker 1: make sure it's grass beed organic UM if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have me. But then if you're dealing with five words, understand,
Speaker 1: it's gonna fuel them, okay. Um. Then there's dairy. Dairy
Speaker 1: is a huge one because of how it it feeds
Speaker 1: um inflammation, it fuels information, it fuels and that that
Speaker 1: fibers and those kind of conditions are inflammatory conditions. UM.
Speaker 1: Alcohol is a big one. Uh. It's it's a big
Speaker 1: one because a lot of people that's their panacea. It's
Speaker 1: how it's it's what they sue themselves with, so minimizing
Speaker 1: that UM. And then so I said Darius and me
Speaker 1: I said alcohol. Uh. And the other thing is gluten.
Speaker 1: Gluten is huge and gluten is in so many things
Speaker 1: from breads to postas. It's a it's an ingredient that
Speaker 1: a lot of people are learning about now because it's
Speaker 1: this whole gluten free movement. But gluten is is it
Speaker 1: really disrupts our gut health and our gut is like
Speaker 1: the center of our overall health. Okay, so when you
Speaker 1: talk about like things that are will help, cucifers, vegetables
Speaker 1: are really important. So I say to people, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not about doing everything all at once. Un us
Speaker 1: you're in a crisis. So the people that come to us,
Speaker 1: my son, they're in a crisis. They're like, I need
Speaker 1: help right now. I'm really I'm really culturkey, literally help
Speaker 1: me because I'm drowning. Right then they'll do like our waterfast,
Speaker 1: they'll do our balance program. And that's fine. But some
Speaker 1: people who was like that's just looking to try to
Speaker 1: make changes because it's more of a of a gradual thing.
Speaker 1: Adding more cruciferous vegetables into your diet, like Bob Joy,
Speaker 1: like broccoli right, like um, you know, purple cabbage and
Speaker 1: and kale and um, these things. Having more of them
Speaker 1: and not you know, drowned in Greece and devoid of nutrients.
Speaker 1: But having those more in your diet will help. And
Speaker 1: and and if you're gonna have me, make it a
Speaker 1: smaller proportion of your food and more of the vegetables, right,
Speaker 1: more of the fruits and vegetables that are gonna help overall,
Speaker 1: and then making sure that, Um, when it comes to
Speaker 1: your you know, caffeine levels. People, some people love coffee,
Speaker 1: but caffeine is one of those things that fuels estra
Speaker 1: and as well it's highly estrogenic, so maybe for you.
Speaker 1: There have been people who they said me, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it felt like my fire birds went you know, they
Speaker 1: grew like on steroids recently. And we said, okay, so
Speaker 1: let's take a look at what's what's what have you
Speaker 1: been consuming? Oh my god, I've been working so hard.
Speaker 1: I've been drinking a lot of coffee because I need
Speaker 1: to stay up or whatever it may be that's been
Speaker 1: going on their lifestyle, and it's been traced to that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, because caffeine can be so it
Speaker 1: can it has some health benefits. However, it also if
Speaker 1: you're esgen dominant with your estrogen level is too high,
Speaker 1: it can cause um that the fueling of those conditions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: last night I had a terrible eat night, Like I
Speaker 1: had some what was it, steaking cheese, egg row things
Speaker 1: so good, so good. Um, And so it was just
Speaker 1: a bad night because I'm not supposed to be eating
Speaker 1: much cheese and to stick to like feta and other
Speaker 1: So the cheese is like that, but I'm not allowed
Speaker 1: to have like cheddar and that nature because of cholesterol.
Speaker 1: And the food is hard, you know, the food is hard,
Speaker 1: especially for us, because I've watched especially my son, he
Speaker 1: only eats um. What is your thing? Are you a
Speaker 1: vegetarian or a prestian? I tried every now and then
Speaker 1: I might eat a little bit of chicken, but I
Speaker 1: don't eat beef. For any other media, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: but it's hard to find things like I watch him
Speaker 1: struggle wanting to do right, like trying. He doesn't. He
Speaker 1: would never eat any trash at all, period, except the
Speaker 1: fact that you're somewhere and there's nothing, and it's like
Speaker 1: what do you eat especially when you're arriving at ten
Speaker 1: o'clock at night and the only thing that's available is
Speaker 1: like the you know, the the the what you call
Speaker 1: those wings, the hot wings, you know like that. It's
Speaker 1: just like all this and now that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: eat better since I got this really bad cholesterol report
Speaker 1: back from my physical is, I find myself really struggling,
Speaker 1: like Okay, there's pizza, there's you know, there's there are
Speaker 1: things with all the things that I'm not supposed to
Speaker 1: be eating everywhere. Butter. Butter is in everything. It's used,
Speaker 1: you know, so often. Um, you know, just like all
Speaker 1: the stuff, you know, the things, so I don't have
Speaker 1: to explain it. And it is really hard. And I
Speaker 1: try to eat because Quani Food told us have two
Speaker 1: salads per day, so I'm like trying to get into
Speaker 1: the salad thing. But even finding a good salad can
Speaker 1: be difficult. Yeah, it's I'm not gonna it's so part
Speaker 1: of it is, you know, this is why you know,
Speaker 1: the number one thing you can do is obviously prepare
Speaker 1: your meals at home. However, everybody doesn't have that, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm not somebody who just loves to cook all
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Speaker 1: this idea that if it doesn't have meat or or
Speaker 1: uh these other conditions that it's not food because a
Speaker 1: lot of times you can find Like for me, if
Speaker 1: I go somewhere, I'm looking for the fruits, I'm looking
Speaker 1: for the veggies, um and and my concept is that
Speaker 1: is a meal. Right, So if I if I think
Speaker 1: about it that way, if you go to eat at
Speaker 1: a restaurant, they're gonna have some real veggies, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have steam, They're gonna have something available, right, um something?
Speaker 1: Then are you hungry afterwards? I mean, listen, we gotta
Speaker 1: let you go because we were just gonna keep talking
Speaker 1: and talking and talking. But are you hungry? Do you
Speaker 1: find yourself still being hungry after or you're not? No?
Speaker 1: So Number one. The other thing is steam, brown rice.
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Speaker 1: that's a good source of proteins. So you want to
Speaker 1: make sure you have a good source of protein like
Speaker 1: something like a brown rice like keenoa. There are foods available.
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing is this that if we're looking
Speaker 1: for it, and if we decide that, you know what,
Speaker 1: my health let's go back to that state of emergency.
Speaker 1: Right when we say balance is possible, it starts by
Speaker 1: saying prioritizing my health. I'm not gonna get I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get balanced until I prioritize my health. Right those
Speaker 1: who are in the dominant culture are not gonna give
Speaker 1: up power until they understand that, you know what, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be taken from me. I don't want my life
Speaker 1: taken from me because I'm not taking care of my health.
Speaker 1: So I have to decide that, you know what, come,
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Speaker 1: Making sure you're getting the right supplements is really important.
Speaker 1: Maybe you can't deep everything with your diet, but let's
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Speaker 1: we have We've seen women who because they were starting
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Speaker 1: like to feel amazing that, you know, they'll be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, now I am willing to go that extramount.
Speaker 1: Like when they do our water fast right, which may
Speaker 1: be a part of they may start their balance that far.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, I can't eat for fourteen days.
Speaker 1: It's a water fast. And I say this because a
Speaker 1: lot of times we think we're about to die to
Speaker 1: Maka and my son, but the truth is we're really
Speaker 1: just thirsty. We think we're so hungry, but our bodies
Speaker 1: are saying, no, you know what, you're really just thirsty
Speaker 1: because the body it experiences dehydration and hunger the same.
Speaker 1: And I say that because sometimes we'll reach for something
Speaker 1: that's bad for us to eat because we think we're
Speaker 1: about to pass out. But with the body is actually
Speaker 1: telling you, Oh, you really just need some coconut water.
Speaker 1: Oh you really just need some water. And you would
Speaker 1: be surprised if you took yourself less off your water.
Speaker 1: You may have you may have time to get to
Speaker 1: that next spot, or have a little bit more planning
Speaker 1: time to say, let me get something that's healthier to eat.
Speaker 1: That's a critical piece. But if you don't have the
Speaker 1: support and the understanding of the education, knowledge, then knowledge. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you so much for your
Speaker 1: time and you're you're so clear. You know, oftentimes people
Speaker 1: say they are experts in certain areas and it's difficult
Speaker 1: to understand what they're Um, you know what they know.
Speaker 1: But it's not that way with you. You're very, very clear.
Speaker 1: And I feel I definitely learned from this conversation. And
Speaker 1: I think the main thing that is so important is
Speaker 1: talking about these issues from nuts to bolts and not
Speaker 1: making it a backroom conversation between a few women, but
Speaker 1: ensuring that our men are a part of it, because hey,
Speaker 1: when we're out to eat, a man can look over
Speaker 1: at his wife and say, hey, you've had four drinks
Speaker 1: this week or you know tonight, maybe you know, we
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that because we need to preserve your health.
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Speaker 1: your health journey with you. Um, so you know it
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Speaker 1: you know, if this is all you're gonna eat, this
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Speaker 1: supporting and saying, you know what, our health is going
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Speaker 1: We need you? Thank you so much. UM. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: give me one to thank you. You have been very informative.
Speaker 1: You do not look a day over thirty one. Hopefully
Speaker 1: what I'm saying so fifty one is amazing. But just
Speaker 1: continue to do what you do. You know, hopefully somebody's
Speaker 1: couchie might be saved based on this conversation. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, life, life might be saved. A brother's
Speaker 1: need listen, brothers, man get it because sometimes the women
Speaker 1: don't know about it, like the lady. The woman just said,
Speaker 1: the brothers bring introduced to him. So brothers, sometimes you
Speaker 1: might have to reach out to Coach Jesse because a
Speaker 1: lot of them don't know or these sometimes they end
Speaker 1: to now, so you might have to give a little
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, pushing over there. So we
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Coach Jesse, and we support the men too.
Speaker 1: You know, there's d and a lot of other things
Speaker 1: that there were help them to I blood pressure. But
Speaker 1: the sisters they got my heart. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: Coach Jesse. Please go back to your day. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for breaking into your schedule to be a
Speaker 1: guest on Street Politicians. We can't wait to have you back.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me um. It's true blessing.
Speaker 1: I think Coach Jesse and and the things that she's
Speaker 1: talking about, and I mean she she knows so much.
Speaker 1: You could just get sort of caught up in listening
Speaker 1: to all of the details. And it's good. You know,
Speaker 1: we we had Queen of Four. We've had several opportunities
Speaker 1: to talk about this. I feel like, you know, we
Speaker 1: all no matter who you are, where you come from,
Speaker 1: you got to come through a woman. There's no other
Speaker 1: way to get here than through a woman's body. So
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we are in a
Speaker 1: place where, you know where, I feel like we can
Speaker 1: finally break down the barry years of misinformation or lack
Speaker 1: of information because we're doing it in so many other areas,
Speaker 1: and we need to take care of our women, all
Speaker 1: of us, so that we can continue to procreate. So
Speaker 1: I think it's a real simple concept. We don't gotta
Speaker 1: make a chance of difficult long debate. It just is
Speaker 1: what it is. We want to continue to appropriate. We
Speaker 1: want to make sure that our race is strong, that
Speaker 1: we have more children and more life. And that's how
Speaker 1: you get that's how you get it done. Take care
Speaker 1: of your bodies. You know, I'm I'm I'm happy to
Speaker 1: have these conversations because I got a lot of friends
Speaker 1: and they all come back with the you know, I've
Speaker 1: been blessed not to really have to deal with that
Speaker 1: in my later life, but a lot of my friends
Speaker 1: and younger guys talk about, you know, women not smelling good.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm pushing more over the coach jesse
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta because if you're in a relationship,
Speaker 1: you gotta kid care enough about the women and care
Speaker 1: about yourself to try to do something better for it. So,
Speaker 1: you know, the older justice every man in the world
Speaker 1: is most afraid. It's like, I don't want to smell
Speaker 1: that stinking thing. Nobody what noet of that. So shout
Speaker 1: out to coach jesse Man and the wealth of knowledge
Speaker 1: she has. So hold another topic. You know, as we
Speaker 1: talked about women, black women, you know, brings me to mind.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I was in the courthouse, we
Speaker 1: were in the courthouse in Houston, Texas a few days
Speaker 1: ago where the verdict for the officer who killed Pam
Speaker 1: Turner was read, and you know, it was one I
Speaker 1: think it was one of the most disappointing things I've
Speaker 1: ever experienced. Man. We because this was this was one
Speaker 1: of those times there was instances where it wasn't speculation,
Speaker 1: where we didn't think something happened. We literally watched this
Speaker 1: woman being executed on tape. To see a verdict come
Speaker 1: back and say that the officer it was not guilty.
Speaker 1: It just it hurt me. It hurt me seeing her daughter,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing her sister, seeing her family, you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was painful for me, you know. And
Speaker 1: unfortunately when that, you know, we hadn't been in the
Speaker 1: courtroom prior to that, we hadn't heard the whole case.
Speaker 1: You know, we wanted to go out there to support
Speaker 1: the family, you know, So we flew out there that
Speaker 1: day to support the family and be with them and
Speaker 1: let people know because unfortunately, there wasn't enough people there.
Speaker 1: There was I didn't see people outside, I didn't see anything,
Speaker 1: So there was no real support for this black woman
Speaker 1: who was literally murdered, you know, you know, so we
Speaker 1: wanted to go and be support to the family and
Speaker 1: to you know, Ben Crump, who is the civil attorney
Speaker 1: on the case. And unfortunately, when we did go into
Speaker 1: the courtroom and I watched the jury come back into
Speaker 1: the room, spirit told me, you know that it wasn't right.
Speaker 1: You know, it was three black jurors. And I know
Speaker 1: we say that, and I don't know why we think that,
Speaker 1: but you know, they say a lot of your skin
Speaker 1: folk as your kin folks, and and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that about them because I don't know what their circumstances are.
Speaker 1: I know from understanding, you know what I've heard. I've
Speaker 1: never actually been in the jury, but I met my
Speaker 1: grandmother being in a jury and afterwards explaining to me
Speaker 1: what the process was her being the sole black woman
Speaker 1: in the room where it was white men and all
Speaker 1: types of other people trying to tell her to change
Speaker 1: what she felt, you know, and and how. And my
Speaker 1: grandmother was the strongest person I ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: And to know that it was times when she was
Speaker 1: like she was getting a little frustrated, but she said
Speaker 1: she just she went with her heart, you know, and
Speaker 1: she wasn't gonna allow anybody to change because that's just
Speaker 1: who she was. But you know, to see those black
Speaker 1: will come out there, and they seemed like there was
Speaker 1: a fight for a while, just based off the fact
Speaker 1: that they were there a couple of days. I know
Speaker 1: that they went through things in there, and the fact
Speaker 1: that they didn't come back and ask any questions. It
Speaker 1: was in a deliberation for over two days, showed that
Speaker 1: there was a back and forth and it was just
Speaker 1: we think you're innocent. And they were probably one or
Speaker 1: two people who were fighting, you know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: think he's guilty. I mean, we think he's innocent, and
Speaker 1: one or two people probably fighting because they felt that
Speaker 1: he was guilty, and it just fell apart at one
Speaker 1: point and it's like they probably got beat down. But
Speaker 1: I just wish that we have more strength beyond whether
Speaker 1: or not they should have held the line or not,
Speaker 1: which I think they should have. And I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: when when you said earlier that you don't want to
Speaker 1: say all for all, all knight and is not in
Speaker 1: this situation, no but all skinfolking chickenfolks, right, but no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. But what I'm saying is I don't think
Speaker 1: we can give them a pass because there have been
Speaker 1: other jury decisions where when the jurors, when when the
Speaker 1: jury uh does not come back with what we believe
Speaker 1: we saw in front of our eyes, right, we know
Speaker 1: the truth. Right, we have said and we've called those
Speaker 1: jurys out, and we've said this is some bullshit, and
Speaker 1: and we've talked about how those jurors we feel fell
Speaker 1: victim to the system and or some of them were
Speaker 1: racists as well. And I think it's okay for us
Speaker 1: to say that the same not the same exact words,
Speaker 1: of course, but to chastise and or or maybe that's
Speaker 1: not the right word, but to critique at least the
Speaker 1: three black jurors that no good and damn well the
Speaker 1: judge was being biased and that the the entire case
Speaker 1: was corrupted by the judge's behavior. They know it happened.
Speaker 1: They know it happened more than we do because they
Speaker 1: sat there and they saw it. We heard about his
Speaker 1: second hand, but they watched in real time a judge
Speaker 1: sit right in front of them and do everything possible
Speaker 1: to lend support to the defense, knowing that all the
Speaker 1: things that we needed, that that that that jury should
Speaker 1: have been hearing about, because by the way, the only
Speaker 1: way a jury, the only way a judge gets to
Speaker 1: block information about mental health and things like that. The
Speaker 1: jury is not stupid. They hear you bring it up
Speaker 1: as a prosecutor, and then it's what you call it, um,
Speaker 1: it's it's subjected or but you heard it, and then
Speaker 1: what they tell you is that you can't use that
Speaker 1: information at all. And I'm not in Listen, nobody is saying,
Speaker 1: first of all, fine, I get it, jury instructions are
Speaker 1: what they are. You can't use it. That's whatever, Because
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm sure that the other way around, plenty
Speaker 1: of people are using their biases and their opinions about
Speaker 1: black people when they are making decisions in court rooms
Speaker 1: that even if even if certain things is supposed to
Speaker 1: be thrown out, they still have decided that the black
Speaker 1: man or the black woman, but particularly the black man
Speaker 1: is a criminal and they are going to find the
Speaker 1: motherfucker guilty. I don't they don't care about the instructions
Speaker 1: and the right way to do whatever they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: That happens all the time. We're the ones that we're
Speaker 1: trying to do it the right way. Fine, I'm with that.
Speaker 1: I support it. If that's what we're doing. We should
Speaker 1: do that. Let's try to do do things the right way.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, they knew that if they
Speaker 1: decided that things were not being done properly, they could
Speaker 1: at least hang the jury or hung make a hung jury.
Speaker 1: Why didn't they do that? Why didn't they at least
Speaker 1: do that? Now I refused. I would love to interview them.
Speaker 1: I would I would love to I would love to
Speaker 1: sit down and interview if we can find those three jurors,
Speaker 1: I would love to interview them, and just understood everybody else.
Speaker 1: I get they you know, but I want to know
Speaker 1: what what was going through the minds of those three jurors.
Speaker 1: It's and particularly this one black young she was kind
Speaker 1: of younger girl that she's kind of younger, and she
Speaker 1: looked like she was having some discomfort. She looked like
Speaker 1: she was having some disc I want to know. I
Speaker 1: really just want to understand, man. So I really just
Speaker 1: don't get how we watched the women get executed and
Speaker 1: there was no justice for her. So yeah, she was executed,
Speaker 1: and she was executed on the streets by the officer
Speaker 1: and in the courtroom by the judge. And it's just
Speaker 1: disgusting and that's that. So I'm done for today. You
Speaker 1: you you you, you have your I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Has ended the show for me, r P. The Pam Turner,
Speaker 1: my condoles is and everything goes out to the family,
Speaker 1: you know, but we're still trying to get justice at
Speaker 1: the federal level. They don't the fight. Don't give up man,
Speaker 1: r P to them. Once again, we appreciate you all
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