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Speaker 2: We have an emergency fill in the blank, PAULI the
Speaker 2: emergency fill in the blank team and coach.
Speaker 3: Moments ago, minutes ago. Blank has been fired by Blank. Okay,
Speaker 3: Blank has been fired by Blank.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: Girod Mayo had already been fired by the Patriots. Correct, Okay,
Speaker 2: the Giants there, everybody's coming back. Colts, their owner, Jim
Speaker 2: Irsay put out a statement everybody is back. The Jacksonville
Speaker 2: Jaguars have fired Doug Peterson. Okay, all right, well we
Speaker 2: figured that that was going to happen. But uh, I
Speaker 2: guess the biggest news giants keeping their staff, the Patriots
Speaker 2: after one year getting rid of Gerrod Mayo. We'll talk
Speaker 2: a little bit more about that. The Broncos are in,
Speaker 2: Bengals Dolphins out, the Buccaneers are in, the Falcons out,
Speaker 2: and the Lions last night, thanks to their defense, have
Speaker 2: the number one seed in the NFC. That was the
Speaker 2: big surprise last night. I knew the Lions would score.
Speaker 2: The question is how many would they let the Vikings score?
Speaker 2: And they shut him down. They did a great job.
Speaker 2: And Chris collins Worth kind of hinted at this. This
Speaker 2: is where you hear something in a production meeting on
Speaker 2: Friday or Saturday, where maybe Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator
Speaker 2: for the Lion, says, Hey, we're bringing some heat. We're
Speaker 2: going to go after Sam Darnald. We're going to make
Speaker 2: him uncomfortable. You can't just sit back and let him
Speaker 2: have time because their receivers are too good. Because Collins
Speaker 2: were said that at the beginning, he thought they were
Speaker 2: going to go after Sam Darnold, and they did, and
Speaker 2: they had ten quarterback hits last night. I was listening
Speaker 2: to Dan Orlovsky in the ESPN radio earlier and he
Speaker 2: said he thought, that's Sam Darnald left five touchdown passes
Speaker 2: out there on the field. So the Lions did get
Speaker 2: the win, they got the number one seed, You got
Speaker 2: an extra week with your players. Certainly that defense has
Speaker 2: been banged up, but give credit to that defense because
Speaker 2: they did put a lot of pressure on Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: All right, Seaton, what's pole questions? Start out the first hour?
Speaker 2: You got a couple of more surprising pole questions. Okay, uh,
Speaker 2: more surprising This is from Paulie more surprising Broncos are
Speaker 2: in the playoffs or the Bengals are not well. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back Week one and what did
Speaker 2: we say after the Bengals lost to the Patriots. I said,
Speaker 2: there's every team. Those teams that don't make the playoffs,
Speaker 2: you can usually go back to one game and go, hmmm,
Speaker 2: that one's going to hurt you. And that's what I
Speaker 2: said after they lost to the Patriots. I sat on
Speaker 2: that Monday, and you're the Bengals. You're not Tom Brady's
Speaker 2: Patriots where you can use the first month of the
Speaker 2: season as the preseason. This is the problem. They treated
Speaker 2: that game like it was a preseason and the Patriots
Speaker 2: beating the Bengals in Cincinnati. But if you're going to
Speaker 2: lose your first three games, look, would I love to
Speaker 2: see the Bengals in? Yes, I would, But they didn't
Speaker 2: deserve to be in. They played great at the end
Speaker 2: of the regular season. If this was college, we'd probably
Speaker 2: look at them like South Carolina. Man, they're on a roll.
Speaker 2: You don't want to face them. Well, this is in college.
Speaker 2: You lose your first three, you let the Patriots beat
Speaker 2: you in Cincinnati. I would love to have had the
Speaker 2: Bengals in, just esthetically to watch them play and Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow Jamar Chase. But Denver played better, more consistent, the
Speaker 2: defense was good, bo Nicks did a great job, and
Speaker 2: Sean Payton reclaimed his status as one of the great
Speaker 2: coaches in the game. But yeah, Denver to me was
Speaker 2: a better team. Cincinnati might have been a better story
Speaker 2: for the overall picture of you don't want I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody's say it, man, you don't want to face
Speaker 2: the Broncos. I would say that. I mean, you got
Speaker 2: to defense, travels. This is a good, solid team. Now,
Speaker 2: did the Chiefs basically roll over? Yes, they did, But
Speaker 2: I think they were a consistent team, a good team.
Speaker 2: Patrick's er ten is, you know, maybe steals the defensive
Speaker 2: player of the year work and Bonnicks played really well.
Speaker 2: But you know that's one of those where hey, Buffalo
Speaker 2: and they get Denver. Well, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: when you get to this point, it's one game. Are
Speaker 2: the Bills better than Denver? Yes, but it's one game
Speaker 2: and that's all you're asking for. Give me a little
Speaker 2: bit of magic here, Fritzy. Congratulations, your Broncos are going
Speaker 2: to the playoffs.
Speaker 5: How about that? Thirty eight nothing against all of the
Speaker 5: backups now, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Are we convinced that the Bengals would have a much
Speaker 6: more challenge, much better chance of being the Bills in Denver?
Speaker 6: Are we comfortable saying that I wish it was the
Speaker 6: Bengals because that'll be a better game and Denver's gonna
Speaker 6: get rolled?
Speaker 5: Is that what the average person thinks?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Why don't you go around announce the
Speaker 2: average person?
Speaker 5: So I'm going to take a poll outside. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do a kind of walk around with a microphone.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of average people in here, just
Speaker 2: to ask everybody. The poll question is who would you
Speaker 2: rather have in the playoffs? The Bengals or the Broncos?
Speaker 2: Is that the question?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think a lot.
Speaker 2: Who's more threatening?
Speaker 5: Right? Which would be a more competive and.
Speaker 2: The Bengals are more threatening. It's only because they have
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. So you got the leading
Speaker 2: pat when's the last time you had the leading passer
Speaker 2: yardage wise, passing touchdowns, You had I think the leading
Speaker 2: sack guy, and you had a receiver win the triple crowd.
Speaker 2: So Trey Hendrickson, I think he had fifteen sacks this year.
Speaker 2: What was it, Paulie. He finished with seventeen and a half. Okay,
Speaker 2: so seventeen and a half. Quietly seventeen and a half.
Speaker 2: And then you have Joe Burrow and you have mar Chase,
Speaker 2: and then you throw in Ta Higgins. That's exciting. Denver
Speaker 2: doesn't have that. I mean that offense doesn't blow you
Speaker 2: away with name recognition. But I don't think Sean Payton
Speaker 2: cares about that. And uh, you know, I got a
Speaker 2: factor in Sean Payton with his ability to coach as
Speaker 2: well guest hut No, you gotta.
Speaker 6: Love Benito and certain And then you got Vele out
Speaker 6: of the Blues doing some stuff with Sutton.
Speaker 5: They got they got some weapons there. I didn't love
Speaker 5: the fact that they do.
Speaker 2: Those guys are on defense.
Speaker 5: I'm just talking about in general as far as people
Speaker 5: that are like, oh.
Speaker 2: But I was, I was talking about offense fair enough.
Speaker 2: I was talking about Joe Burrow, Chase fire Path.
Speaker 5: I'm just like shocking.
Speaker 2: You don't usually refer to uh de facto players as weapons.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: When you don't have weapons on offense, you got weapons
Speaker 2: on deeper.
Speaker 6: I just don't like the narrative because we love the
Speaker 6: word the narrative that, oh, Cincinnati, Buffalo would have been great.
Speaker 5: This is gonna be the blowout. I forget this as
Speaker 5: we'll put the Bills into the digital player.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, what are we doing right now? We're not
Speaker 2: going to do this the nobody once says, nobody believed
Speaker 2: in us. We're not doing that. No, are you calling
Speaker 2: for the win in Buffalo?
Speaker 5: You know what? You put me on the spot. The
Speaker 5: Bills should win that game, they should win comfortably. But wait,
Speaker 5: you don't. I believe the Broncos in one game. Anything
Speaker 5: is possible. Buffalo should win that game.
Speaker 2: We know it's possible because they are in the game.
Speaker 2: You know what's not possible. The Bengals can't beat the Bills.
Speaker 2: I just checked.
Speaker 3: Yes, they can't beat them. Yes, the Bills are giving
Speaker 3: nine to the Broncos. I could check with Vegas on
Speaker 3: what the line would have been if the Bengals were
Speaker 3: in the game.
Speaker 5: M I'd be curious about them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bengals would probably be uh five point underdog maybe
Speaker 2: maybe something like that. But are we we or they?
Speaker 5: We are definitely we?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, congratulations, it was a very good year.
Speaker 5: After they lost to the.
Speaker 6: Charge and Bengals, it was more day, but then after
Speaker 6: what happened, Yester, we're back to Wick.
Speaker 2: And you're not a front runner. By the way, one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty one games were decided by seven points
Speaker 2: or less. That's tied with twenty twenty two, the most
Speaker 2: in a season in NFL history. Woo stead of a.
Speaker 7: Day, stand a day stand OUTA day.
Speaker 8: Stand outa day, this is the style of the day.
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Speaker 2: of the Dan Patrick Show. Lamar Jackson finished with forty
Speaker 2: one touchdown passes, four interceptions. That's never happened before in
Speaker 2: NFL history. At least forty and fewer than five interceptions,
Speaker 2: and he may not win the MVPG. The Lions, they
Speaker 2: were extremely balanced, but not as balanced as the Bills.
Speaker 2: They're the first team to have at least thirty passing
Speaker 2: touchdowns and at least thirty rushing touchdowns in the same season.
Speaker 2: Never happened before. The Lions were one rushing touchdown short
Speaker 2: of becoming the second team to do so. I look
Speaker 2: at the Lions. You want to talk about being all
Speaker 2: in because you're gonna lose probably both your coordinators. Aaron
Speaker 2: Glenn defensive coordinator, Ben Johnson offensive coordinator. You're all in.
Speaker 2: I talk about these windows of opportunity, like San Francisco's
Speaker 2: window it might have closed, and it felt like it's
Speaker 2: wide open. You got a you know, mister irrelevant with
Speaker 2: that contract, you got your signing, everybody, you're keeping everybody,
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk, you got McCaffrey, Debo, Trent Williams, you got it, Bosa,
Speaker 2: everything's gonna work. You got a great coach GM and
Speaker 2: then maybe you don't. And this is where you get
Speaker 2: that three to four year run and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden it starts to slip away. Detroit, this is
Speaker 2: the year. This is the year. Considering everything you have now,
Speaker 2: I also look at this team that you got Hutchinson
Speaker 2: coming back, Jamir Gibbs is wonderful on a rookie contract.
Speaker 2: You got Montgomery coming back, Golf is signed, Amon Ross,
Speaker 2: Saint Brown is signed, got a good tight end. You've
Speaker 2: got a culture there with Dan Campbell. So this should
Speaker 2: extend for a couple of seasons. Should And then you
Speaker 2: got Buffalo that I thought their window of opportunity closed,
Speaker 2: and now it just feels like this is a true solid,
Speaker 2: starless team except for the quarterback there, and I think
Speaker 2: that's that's been a benefit for them. They had two
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl players. I think that's a true testament to
Speaker 2: a team playing great football. Yes, marmam, And.
Speaker 9: I think for a franchise like the Lions, all you
Speaker 9: need is one Super Bowl title.
Speaker 4: You don't need to go on a two to three
Speaker 4: year run. All you need is one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Cubs, you win all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's like you've changed the entire national outlook or viewpoint
Speaker 2: of the Lions. You've changed everything. Now it's not hey,
Speaker 2: I'm a Lions fan, It's I'm a Lions fan. All
Speaker 2: it takes is one?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: So is that the poll question? Who would be more
Speaker 2: threatening in the playoffs? Seat and the Broncos of the Bengals? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we could do who would be more threatening? I kind
Speaker 2: of like, who would you want?
Speaker 10: But yeah, there's definitely going to be a Broncos versus
Speaker 10: Bengals poll question for sure.
Speaker 2: But I don't want you. Oh woe is me? Nobody
Speaker 2: thought we'd be here, Todd. We can't do that because
Speaker 2: it's a great story. You didn't think they would be here,
Speaker 2: so you can't go nobody's giving us a Jace.
Speaker 6: That's fair, and most people thought they'd win four or
Speaker 6: five six games maximum.
Speaker 2: They played great, that defense was really good, and yes,
Speaker 2: did the Chiefs roll over. They did, But you know,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have put it out of the realm of
Speaker 2: possibility that the Broncos would have beaten the Chiefs if
Speaker 2: they wanted to or trying to win that game. Yes, see,
Speaker 2: So just.
Speaker 10: So we're clear, Todd also thought that they wouldn't be
Speaker 10: there yes this year, and while he doesn't like the
Speaker 10: narrative that we should just advance the Bills to the
Speaker 10: next round, he too thinks the.
Speaker 2: Bills are going to win.
Speaker 10: Yes, despite the fact that he doesn't like that narrative, yes,
Speaker 10: that you should give the Broncos a chance, he thinks
Speaker 10: the Bills are going to have advance.
Speaker 6: I think the narrative is that they're going to get
Speaker 6: blown out, and it's hard to predict the Broncos to
Speaker 6: win that game, but I think they'll keep it competitive.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you just were saying that nobody thought you
Speaker 2: guys could be there. Nobody's giving you a chance. They'd
Speaker 2: rather have the Bengals. So you're feeding into all of.
Speaker 6: This because I and many saw something in the Broncos
Speaker 6: that we didn't think we would see during the course
Speaker 6: of the season.
Speaker 5: Who would think that bo Nicks would have not gone No?
Speaker 2: But you don't think they're no. You don't think they.
Speaker 5: Have a chance to win. But if if I had
Speaker 5: like bed a million dollars on it or.
Speaker 2: Something, they chance because they're playing the game.
Speaker 5: In one game, anything could happen.
Speaker 6: They almost beat the Chiefs in Mahomes, the great Chiefs
Speaker 6: team trying to win the re Super Bowls and with
Speaker 6: blockfield goal in the last second.
Speaker 2: Reason, you're the one under selling the Broncos.
Speaker 6: I don't like that everyone. I don't like that other
Speaker 6: people are undersung. They're all that the Bengals game would
Speaker 6: have been a lot better and want to see Nicks.
Speaker 2: And it would and it would have been. It would
Speaker 2: have been more interesting to have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chasin.
Speaker 6: Maybe interesting, but not necessarily more competitive because it's.
Speaker 2: Okay, make up your mind. If you're all in that,
Speaker 2: you're gonna win, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 5: Twenty seven twenty three.
Speaker 2: It took me fourteen minutes to get there. Twenty seven
Speaker 2: to twenty three.
Speaker 5: The Bills should be ten and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin, that's that was a lot for the first segment.
Speaker 2: Forgive me, Yeah, I can't work this hard, Tod not
Speaker 2: to start the week a lot?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's only fifteen minutes into Monday.
Speaker 10: All week, all week Monday, Todd.
Speaker 2: I know, are we gonna hear this all week long?
Speaker 5: I'll settle down, all right, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker CBS Sports Westwood One and a host of
Speaker 2: the Ross Tuncker Football Podcast. He was on the call
Speaker 2: for the Texans and the Titans yesterday on CBS, and
Speaker 2: he'll be working Steelers Ravens Saturday night and then Sunday
Speaker 2: he's got the Packers in the Eagles. The man is
Speaker 2: always working. Let me start with the Titans here. Is
Speaker 2: there any chance now with the number one overall pick
Speaker 2: that they won't go quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 9: The only way I can see that, Dan, is if
Speaker 9: they really like one of the other options. Maybe that's
Speaker 9: Sam Darnold, and they want to pay for them. I
Speaker 9: think that's tough though. That would surprise me.
Speaker 2: You know, does stay another year?
Speaker 4: Was that Levis?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Would they give him another year?
Speaker 4: No? No, I don't think so, Okay, that would.
Speaker 9: I mean they sat him down at two different times
Speaker 9: this year. He started the year, then they sat him down,
Speaker 9: he had injury whatever for a few weeks, came back,
Speaker 9: had a couple of pretty good games, but then reverted
Speaker 9: back with the turnovers that. I don't think that they
Speaker 9: will do that. I mean, if they did that, if
Speaker 9: Levis came back, there would be a veteran of some significant,
Speaker 9: some consequence on the roster with him, like a Sam Darnold,
Speaker 9: like someone that you could sell to the fan base
Speaker 9: as a legitimate starter. I just think when you get
Speaker 9: that number one overall pick, and we showed it five
Speaker 9: times during the broadcast yesterday, you know how bad teams
Speaker 9: the people put the bags on their head, Dan One
Speaker 9: guy had a bag on his head, but on the
Speaker 9: front of the bag was a picture of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 4: That was what was on the front of the bag.
Speaker 9: So I think you get the number one pick, I
Speaker 9: think people want you to take a quarterback, whether that's
Speaker 9: cam Ward or Shador Sanders or whoever.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean they're going to.
Speaker 9: I think it's really hard not to because the fans
Speaker 9: get so excited about being able to have your pick
Speaker 9: number one guy, despite the fact that people are not
Speaker 9: in love with this quarterback class.
Speaker 2: If you're Dion, do you want will you let your
Speaker 2: son go to an organization like the Titans.
Speaker 4: It's a really good question too.
Speaker 9: You know, they had a pretty good track record and
Speaker 9: history of winning for a long time.
Speaker 4: You know, when I was playing, they were always good.
Speaker 9: Even Vrabel had them going for a couple of years.
Speaker 9: They've been down there, like I think it's three straight
Speaker 9: years with at least ten losses.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I guess the way I look at something like that
Speaker 9: is what's his other alternatives that are so much better?
Speaker 4: The Raiders the Giants? I mean, I guess the answer
Speaker 4: is yes, I don't.
Speaker 9: You know, maybe the Raiders and Giants have bigger fan bases,
Speaker 9: or you know, better tradition over a long stretch, or
Speaker 9: whatever branding.
Speaker 4: Whatever you want to look at.
Speaker 9: But if you look at the way they've been run lately,
Speaker 9: I don't think they're any better than the Titans.
Speaker 2: Well, I was wondering Carolina or the Titans better organization
Speaker 2: moving forward.
Speaker 9: Well, I guess I would say Carolina right now because
Speaker 9: of the way Bryce Young played the.
Speaker 4: Second half of the year.
Speaker 9: I mean, it looks like they have their quarterback, which
Speaker 9: is just fascinating. I mean, he was bad bad as
Speaker 9: a rookie. He wasn't just bad, he was bad bad,
Speaker 9: and then even earlier this year he was still not good.
Speaker 9: I mean they went to Andy Dalton for a reason.
Speaker 9: There's a lesson there. I think that maybe we need
Speaker 9: to have a little bit more patience with these guys,
Speaker 9: Maybe we need to give them more opportunities. I mean,
Speaker 9: just think about Dan Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold. Both
Speaker 9: of those guys are on their fourth team and they
Speaker 9: both are definitely top fifteen, arguably top ten starting quarterbacks
Speaker 9: in the NFL.
Speaker 4: They both had.
Speaker 9: Tremendous, tremendous years with their fourth NFL teams after being
Speaker 9: top five picks. So would that have happened to Baker
Speaker 9: State and Cleveland or Donald's day with the Jets. We
Speaker 9: don't think so, Probably not, But it still should tell
Speaker 9: us something, inform us something about maybe being more patient,
Speaker 9: Maybe you should.
Speaker 4: Give these guys a third and fourth chance.
Speaker 2: Fell in the blank next season Aaron Rodgers will be.
Speaker 9: Starting at quarterback for a disappointing team. I think that
Speaker 9: would be the way I would describe it. I don't
Speaker 9: think anybody wants him to be their quarterback.
Speaker 4: You know, you go down the list.
Speaker 9: I think they'd rather have Donald In free agency, I
Speaker 9: think some of them would rather draft the young guy.
Speaker 9: I think Aaron Rodgers almost becomes like playing c at
Speaker 9: this point, and so a franchise that strikes out in
Speaker 9: free agency and or doesn't have a chance in the
Speaker 9: draft to get the kind of quarterback they really want,
Speaker 9: there will be a a desperate times call for desperate
Speaker 9: measures franchise out there that will bring in Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 9: because they know they have to win this year.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's funny. I don't think they'll.
Speaker 9: Do this, But the first team that came in my
Speaker 9: mind Dan is the Giants, right like Joe Shane and
Speaker 9: Brian da Ball have to win this year. I'm a
Speaker 9: little surprised they're both coming back. I thought Dabell would,
Speaker 9: I didn't think Shane would. But they have to win
Speaker 9: this year. I don't think that the Merra family would
Speaker 9: want them to bring in Aaron Rodgers, but if you
Speaker 9: got to win.
Speaker 4: Where else are they going to get a quarterback.
Speaker 2: He can keep his house, have to move. We're talking
Speaker 2: to Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, west Wood One. He'll be
Speaker 2: working sideline Steelers Ravens. That's Saturday night and then in
Speaker 2: the booth for the Packers and the Eagles on Sunday.
Speaker 2: This game for the Steelers. How important is this?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: I know Mike Tomlin, they never have whispers or rumors
Speaker 2: that he could be fired or they move on from him.
Speaker 2: But if they're one and done again in the postseason,
Speaker 2: and this is a Hall of Fame coach, but when's
Speaker 2: the last time they won a playoff game? Twenty seventeen
Speaker 2: and Russell Wilson's future, what hinges on this outcome this weekend?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's gigantic. I think it could impact.
Speaker 9: Both guys, certainly Russell Wilson more than Mike Tomlin. And
Speaker 9: I'll say this too, if Zay Flowers can't play for
Speaker 9: the Ravens, that is significant. I think it sounds weird
Speaker 9: to say this. Dan the Steelers at least to need
Speaker 9: to make it competitive. I mean, they were non competitive
Speaker 9: three games in a row there during that streat where
Speaker 9: they had to play the Ravens, the Eagles, the Chiefs,
Speaker 9: it was clear that they were nowhere near that level
Speaker 9: of those teams. I don't think they need to necessarily
Speaker 9: beat the Ravens, but it's got to be a classic
Speaker 9: Steelers Ravens game that comes down to the end. I'll
Speaker 9: say this too because I live in central Pennsylvania now,
Speaker 9: Dan like Hershey, right, So there's a lot of Steelers
Speaker 9: fans here, and I talked with them in Pittsburgh too.
Speaker 9: There is no greater disconnect in the NFL than how
Speaker 9: people feel nationally about Mike Tomlin versus how Steelers fans
Speaker 9: feel about Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2: A lot of.
Speaker 9: Steelers fans want him gone. They've won him gone for
Speaker 9: a while. They do not think he's nearly what the
Speaker 9: rest of us all seem to think he is. It's
Speaker 9: really fascinating because, and you can say about a lot
Speaker 9: of fan bases not like this. I mean, it's like
Speaker 9: whole are opposites when you talk to Steelers fans about
Speaker 9: Mike Tomlin versus any other person about Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the national conversation and analysts are very
Speaker 2: careful what they say about Mike Tomlin Nationally you know,
Speaker 2: it's always great respect. You know, he wins, they always
Speaker 2: have winning records, they make the you know all of
Speaker 2: these things. But if you're a Pittsburgh fan and you
Speaker 2: have another one and done, as much as you may
Speaker 2: love his demeanor and his approach and tough guy and
Speaker 2: he won a super Bowl, and you know they don't fire,
Speaker 2: I mean, after a while, you know, I got to start.
Speaker 2: I have to at least question that you know.
Speaker 4: That, well, look, the streak of winning records is impressive.
Speaker 9: And the two things that he gets a lot of
Speaker 9: credit for, and rightfully so, we love hearing him talk.
Speaker 4: We just all like, we just love his quotes. We
Speaker 4: love hearing him talk.
Speaker 9: And he's won a lot of games with quarterbacks that
Speaker 9: are not not elite, not even close to elite. But
Speaker 9: even think about like the playoffs, right, you go right
Speaker 9: down the line, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, even CJ. Shutt,
Speaker 9: Russell Wilson is not in that category that they have
Speaker 9: not had a guy in that category to go toe
Speaker 9: to toe with, even a Justin Herbert obviously Joe Burrow.
Speaker 9: They don't have that guy and they haven't since been
Speaker 9: with it was healthy and in his.
Speaker 2: Prime, what are the Patriots doing.
Speaker 9: That's a little bit of a head scratcher to me
Speaker 9: on multiple levels, right, because think about the conviction you
Speaker 9: have to have in a guy to name him the successor,
Speaker 9: put that in his contract to put him out there
Speaker 9: for a year. And it's funny because most fan bases
Speaker 9: Dan when you say bad things about their team, they
Speaker 9: don't like it. But when I did the NFL Network
Speaker 9: game last week when they played the Chargers, I said
Speaker 9: the truth, which is they probably have the word roster
Speaker 9: in the NFL.
Speaker 4: They probably have the worst O line, probably the worst.
Speaker 9: Receiving corps, And even if you want a nitpick, they're
Speaker 9: at least in the conversation there. So when you start
Speaker 9: with that, I'm a little surprised that Mayo would only
Speaker 9: get one year. I actually would would probably have made
Speaker 9: a change with the guys making the personnel decisions before
Speaker 9: I would Mayo.
Speaker 4: And here's the thing that's really they need to be very.
Speaker 9: Careful of, right Drake may looks really good and made
Speaker 9: a lot of progress that year under Alex Van Pelt,
Speaker 9: their offensive coordinator, despite the fact that they might have
Speaker 9: the worst O line in the worst receiving corps. Yea,
Speaker 9: So now you might be stunning his progress.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: It's it'll be interesting to see who.
Speaker 9: They hire, who is calling the offense, because I really
Speaker 9: think they're at a point right now where everything decision
Speaker 9: you make should be what's best for Drake May because
Speaker 9: he is the franchise. I'm not sure moving on from
Speaker 9: Van Pelt, movie on from the coaching staff is what
Speaker 9: will end up being best for Drake May, but it
Speaker 9: looks like it's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Can the Lions replicate what they did defensively last night
Speaker 2: against Minnesota when they get to the postseason.
Speaker 4: Man, I hope. So that was awesome. I am so
Speaker 4: happy for them and their fans.
Speaker 9: You know, with all these injuries, I probably said to
Speaker 9: you a couple times over the last couple of months,
Speaker 9: and I thought it's just too much for them to overcome.
Speaker 9: And I think if they had lost last night, it
Speaker 9: would be right. Three road playoff games. I don't see
Speaker 9: that happening. But now now they only need to win
Speaker 9: two home home playoff games. That is different. Getting ANZELONEI
Speaker 9: back was gigantic. They have excellent safeties Kirby Joseph and Branch,
Speaker 9: who they now moved to Nickel. Aaron Glenn called an
Speaker 9: incredible game and they have a legitimate chance now to
Speaker 9: get to the first Super Bowl in franchise history with
Speaker 9: the way they played on defense last night. No wonder
Speaker 9: Aaron Glenn is getting all these head coaching interviews.
Speaker 4: That was masterful last night.
Speaker 2: How was it locally? The reaction was Saquon Barkley not
Speaker 2: playing in this regular season finale with a chance to
Speaker 2: become the all time single season rushing leader.
Speaker 9: Well, this will probably surprise you then that this would
Speaker 9: be the case in the city of Philadelphia. But it
Speaker 9: was very polarizing, very polarizing, right. I mean they talked
Speaker 9: about it on the local radio all week, and you know,
Speaker 9: the interesting thing was the quotes from some of the guys.
Speaker 9: You know, even if you felt one way or the other,
Speaker 9: when Saquon said, you know, my dad was the most
Speaker 9: upset because it would have meant a lot for us
Speaker 9: to have our name in the record books forever, you know,
Speaker 9: when you heard them talk a little bit, but then
Speaker 9: he kind of backed off of that a little bit.
Speaker 4: The problem is, you know, and I realized the other.
Speaker 9: Guys would love to be a part of the record too,
Speaker 9: but you're not gonna put them out there with the
Speaker 9: second string offense line, and so then you got to
Speaker 9: have Lane Johnson at like thirty four to thirty five.
Speaker 9: You got to have those guys out there, And I
Speaker 9: think Sirianni made the right decision. The only way you
Speaker 9: really look dumb. And I love history, and I love
Speaker 9: Saquon and all that stuff. The only way you really
Speaker 9: look dumb is if you lose one of your best
Speaker 9: players in a game that has no significance whatsoever. You're
Speaker 9: locked in as the number two seed, and then you
Speaker 9: don't have those guys when you're playing the Packers on Sunday,
Speaker 9: who are one of the better teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Good to catch up with you, safe travels. Thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 4: Of course, Thank you, Dan appreciate it, Ross Tucker.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am
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Speaker 2: W app Let's bring in Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback,
Speaker 2: who joins us on the program. Well, let me start
Speaker 2: with the Patriots. You've been close to this situation. Why
Speaker 2: are they moving on from their coach who was a
Speaker 2: coach in waiting for good five years.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think, you know, really it kind
Speaker 7: of relates back to the end of the Belichick era,
Speaker 7: the state the roster was, in the climate in the
Speaker 7: building when they fired Bill, and you know, like how
Speaker 7: you know, there were factions, and you know, like the
Speaker 7: the fact that they put that clause in his contract,
Speaker 7: the succession plan in his contract, I don't think made
Speaker 7: anything better. So like it forced the Patriots to go
Speaker 7: to Girod Mao probably a good two three years before
Speaker 7: he was ready, certainly before they intended to. And I
Speaker 7: think the where the building was in twenty twenty two
Speaker 7: and twenty twenty three made it so Belichick wasn't going
Speaker 7: to help mentor Mayo and help him fill in the
Speaker 7: gaps that that would be created by his lack of experience.
Speaker 7: And so, you know, I still think the Crafts really
Speaker 7: liked Girod Mail. What Mail thinks of the Crafts anymore,
Speaker 7: But I do think they still really like him and
Speaker 7: think that he'd have a bright future in coaching. But
Speaker 7: it just like based on the way they're set up,
Speaker 7: and they're set up for a coach to have a
Speaker 7: very strong voice in so many different areas. Because the
Speaker 7: way it was set up under Bill for so long,
Speaker 7: they weren't able to support him with the roster, they
Speaker 7: weren't able to support them with the infrastructure, and I
Speaker 7: think that led to a disorganized mess over the last
Speaker 7: couple of months, which led them down the road where
Speaker 7: you know, there were a couple of games there at
Speaker 7: the end where you just could not see the light
Speaker 7: at the end of the tunnel. I think the lost
Speaker 7: Arizona a couple of weeks ago, always won, and then
Speaker 7: obviously that Saturday loss and a standalone game to the
Speaker 7: Chargers might have been the flashpoint because clearly, going into
Speaker 7: the game yesterday they knew what they were doing, or
Speaker 7: else they wouldn't have had a statement, you know, ready
Speaker 7: to go less than an hour and a half after
Speaker 7: the Bills game ended.
Speaker 2: But you're also not going to make this move unless
Speaker 2: you know who you're coaching waiting is I would have.
Speaker 7: So no, I see, I think they'd be I think
Speaker 7: they'd be making a mistake if they if they approached
Speaker 7: it that way. And here's why I say that, Dan,
Speaker 7: I think last year they really cost themselves the chance
Speaker 7: to take a look at the way the rest of
Speaker 7: football works, and they hadn't had the chance to do
Speaker 7: that and so long because they haven't conducted a coaching
Speaker 7: search in so long, you know, And so you know,
Speaker 7: really if you look at it for over twenty five years,
Speaker 7: as all these other teams that were stumbling all over
Speaker 7: themselves got a chance to interview people left and right
Speaker 7: and see the way the best organizations in football were
Speaker 7: doing it. The Patriots were really insular. They didn't really
Speaker 7: bring in a lot of people from the outside, and
Speaker 7: they didn't have the opportunity to see inside other organizations
Speaker 7: through an interview process. And then last year, I mean,
Speaker 7: they rushed Drodmeo into that role, and the same thing
Speaker 7: with Elliott Wolf after the draft, into the EVP of
Speaker 7: player personnel role, and you know, I think they really
Speaker 7: cost themselves a chance to lay across the league. And
Speaker 7: you say, like, Okay, maybe you do know who it's
Speaker 7: going to be and you don't want to go through
Speaker 7: a sham of a process. Well, you can't tell me.
Speaker 7: The Chargers didn't know in November or December that they
Speaker 7: were going to target Jim Harbaugh, yet they still looked
Speaker 7: at what was at twelve fifteen head coach and candidates,
Speaker 7: ten general manager candidates. So they went through a full
Speaker 7: process and got to learn a lot of stuff about
Speaker 7: things worked with other teams, the way things worked with
Speaker 7: other teams, and Jim Harbaugh and Joe Ortiz, who are
Speaker 7: running the team now benefit from the team having gone
Speaker 7: through that. So I do think they're going to run
Speaker 7: a full process. Frabil is obviously a name that's going
Speaker 7: to be at or near the top of their.
Speaker 2: List to begin with.
Speaker 7: But I would think that the Crafts are going to
Speaker 7: let the process take take them where it goes, you know,
Speaker 7: and you know, we've been down this road before. I mean,
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh's a great example from two thousand and seven when
Speaker 7: they move off the Bill Cower era era. You know,
Speaker 7: caw Or retires, and I think everybody everybody thought at
Speaker 7: that point it was either going to be Ken wizen
Speaker 7: Hunt or Russ Graham, who had a ton of background
Speaker 7: with the organization. But they go through a full process,
Speaker 7: they meant to it, and they wind up falling in
Speaker 7: love with Mike Tomlin. I wouldn't rule out something like
Speaker 7: that happening here, although I think clearly Vrabel is the
Speaker 7: the the leader in the Clubhouse, and you know, I
Speaker 7: think that it would behoove them even if it does
Speaker 7: wind up being able to go through that full process.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: You got the Raiders situation, yep, and you got the
Speaker 2: Cowboys situation. Do you see changes in either of those locations.
Speaker 7: I think the Raiders are still up in the air.
Speaker 7: There's been a lot of momentum going in the wrong
Speaker 7: direction over the last couple of months, you know, and
Speaker 7: and and where they are and what sort of voice
Speaker 7: is Tom Brady gonna have in this? You know, the
Speaker 7: opportunity maybe to get somebody like Rable because of Brady,
Speaker 7: you know, I think would entice ownership there. And you
Speaker 7: know I I I think that they they they've had
Speaker 7: to look at the last couple of years and the
Speaker 7: way things are gone, and now with some of the
Speaker 7: changes in ownership, is their influence on on Mark Daves
Speaker 7: to do one thing or another?
Speaker 4: You know, I think we'll find.
Speaker 7: Out over the next three or four hours what will
Speaker 7: happen there. The Cowboys are fascinating because we all went
Speaker 7: through it, you know, five years ago, and the way
Speaker 7: they dragged their feet on Jason Garrett, it was that
Speaker 7: was so weird. You remember that damn like the way
Speaker 7: all that worked where Garrett was employed, but like they're
Speaker 7: really gonna move on, and so Garrett's still working there,
Speaker 7: but they're interviewing people. The same thing could happen here
Speaker 7: because you know, Mike McCarthy's contracts up the same way
Speaker 7: Garrett's was. He's got relationships in the Saints organization for example,
Speaker 7: right like he and and McKey Loomis were together there
Speaker 7: I think it was five years and mackey Willmas's first
Speaker 7: five years with the Saints when McCarthy was there working
Speaker 7: for Jim Haslett. So there could be opportunity outside that
Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy wants to take a look at the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: could take a look on their you know as well.
Speaker 7: And I think one thing that complicates the whole thing is,
Speaker 7: you know, not only do you have to drop a
Speaker 7: new contract for Mike McCarthy, so it's not like you
Speaker 7: can just kick the can down the road for another year.
Speaker 7: That's also the I'm told with their entire coaching staff,
Speaker 7: everyone is up, so you've got to read you got
Speaker 7: to drop new contracts for the entire coaching staff as well.
Speaker 7: So that's gonna be an interesting one. That's you know
Speaker 7: as as you might expect from America's team, a little complicated,
Speaker 7: a little complex. And that's another one. You need to
Speaker 7: hear Rabel's name a lot. But that's another one that
Speaker 7: I have heard Rabel connected to.
Speaker 2: Tough to handicap Aaron Rodgers. But if you were going
Speaker 2: to if I said, Aaron Rodgers next year will be blank,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: Think he knows.
Speaker 7: I don't think the Jets can tell you what their
Speaker 7: plan is until there's a head coach and general manager
Speaker 7: in place.
Speaker 2: You know, would there be a market for Rogers outside
Speaker 2: of the Jets.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think somebody, somebody would take a look at it,
Speaker 7: like I look like, do I think he is what
Speaker 7: he was three or four years ago?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 7: Do I think there's a possibility that you'd be getting
Speaker 7: a very motivated Aaron Rodgers if the Jets wound up
Speaker 7: dumping him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean I can remember talking to Aaron about this
Speaker 7: in July and August, right, and he said to me,
Speaker 7: I didn't like part of my reasoning for coming back
Speaker 7: and going through everything that that it takes to go
Speaker 7: through to get to the point where you can play
Speaker 7: quarterback in the NFL. In twenty twenty four was coming
Speaker 7: off the Achilles, and I didn't want to go out
Speaker 7: like that. Dan, do you think he wants to go
Speaker 7: out like this? Like this is worse than the Achilles,
Speaker 7: isn't it? Like if like everybody would understand if you're
Speaker 7: going if you're forty years old, you're going out with
Speaker 7: the Achilles, Like everybody understand that like this, this is
Speaker 7: like going out like this is worse. So you know,
Speaker 7: I don't think he knows what he's gonna do, but
Speaker 7: I I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what what would you say? Okay, now
Speaker 2: I can go out, Like if you're Rogers, I know,
Speaker 2: Hey we went to nine and eight and we didn't
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Now I can go out.
Speaker 7: Look, there could be there's the possibility that he goes
Speaker 7: through the contemplation of you know, all of this, and
Speaker 7: he he comes out of it and says, you know what,
Speaker 7: I just can't put my body through it again. I
Speaker 7: don't want to go through what it's going to take
Speaker 7: the next six months to position myself to play football
Speaker 7: at forty one years old. That's certainly possible. I think
Speaker 7: it's also possible that, like he has a Brett Farv
Speaker 7: hair across has asked the way that Farv did when
Speaker 7: the Packers let him go, and and and you could
Speaker 7: see like a Vikings year for far from from from
Speaker 7: Rogers somewhere else, Like I don't think that that's impossible,
Speaker 7: that you know, like maybe one last time he wants
Speaker 7: to come back and put everything into it and say,
Speaker 7: this is my last year and I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 7: do everything I can to be in position to play.
Speaker 7: And some team out there looks at it and says,
Speaker 7: this guy could be a bridge. How would he look
Speaker 7: at Pittsburgh? I don't, I mean serious?
Speaker 2: Okay, how would Mike Tomlin deal with that?
Speaker 7: David? But how would he deal with Russell Wilson? He
Speaker 7: dealt with Russell Wilson?
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, But I don't think Russ is as much
Speaker 2: a diva as Aaron Rodgers is.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean, I think people that have
Speaker 7: coached the two, that have coached those two might disagree.
Speaker 2: Russ gott Humbolt. Russ truly got humiliated in Denver.
Speaker 7: Right and and I think to some degree Rogers has
Speaker 7: been with the Jets too. I look, here's the way
Speaker 7: I look at it. I think this there's going to
Speaker 7: be an environment out there with quarterbacks, right, I mean
Speaker 7: he go to Cleveland too. I look at like this
Speaker 7: as like, if you're a team that needs a quarterback
Speaker 7: right now, and you know you're looking at the draft,
Speaker 7: are you do you love Schador Sanders? Do you love
Speaker 7: cam Ward?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 7: I feel like this year's class and the draft is
Speaker 7: closer to the twenty two class, the picket class than
Speaker 7: it is.
Speaker 2: The last team.
Speaker 7: So if you're a team that says, like, okay, like
Speaker 7: we want to get a young quarterback, but we need
Speaker 7: something to get us by for one year, wouldn't Rogers
Speaker 7: appeal to you, like just the chance of what it
Speaker 7: could be was a motivated Rogers is going to come
Speaker 7: back and show everybody like I don't think it's the
Speaker 7: worst idea in the world, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: And I will say this for Tomlin and Pittsburgh, like
Speaker 7: he showed a remarkable ability to deal with whatever personality
Speaker 7: comes his way. I mean, we didn't know that Antonio
Speaker 7: Brown was a problem until like the very in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7: Think about that, you know what I mean, Like we
Speaker 7: didn't know who he had in that receiver room, you know,
Speaker 7: like at the time he had Antonio Brown and Mike
Speaker 7: Wallace and Emmanuel State's big personality's Le'Veon Bell at running back,
Speaker 7: Like I mean, how he's managed George Pickens over the
Speaker 7: last few years. I'm not willing him to Pittsburgh, but
Speaker 7: I'm just telling you, like, I don't think that part
Speaker 7: of it would be as big a problem for Tomlin
Speaker 7: as it might be for another coach.
Speaker 2: Right final thirty seconds, rock Perty's yearly contract will start
Speaker 2: with the number blank.
Speaker 7: Four or I think they will find a happy medium.
Speaker 7: And I think I think like Brock is Brock's a
Speaker 7: team guy. Now, I have heard some stuff that his
Speaker 7: dad's experience as an athlete might affect the way he
Speaker 7: approaches this a little bit. The Niners are a really
Speaker 7: smart organization, and they're going to be turning the page
Speaker 7: in a lot of different ways, and they're gonna have
Speaker 7: to make some tough decisions on some veteran players like
Speaker 7: Deebo Samuel over the next few months. So I would
Speaker 7: expect the Niners to take an early swing of getting
Speaker 7: this done. Remember when they resigned Jimmy Garoppolo. That happened
Speaker 7: in January, so they were very aggressive with Garoppolo. I
Speaker 7: don't know if they'll be quite that aggressive with perty.
Speaker 7: But if it's going to get done early, I think
Speaker 7: it'll get done at something that's a little less than
Speaker 7: the top of the market.
Speaker 2: Tyreek Kill next year will be back with the Dolphins or.
Speaker 7: It doesn't sound like it, right, It doesn't sound.
Speaker 2: Sounds like he wants to move on Chiefs. Oh they
Speaker 2: bring him back?
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean that would be that that would
Speaker 7: be the classic move, right The Chiefs have already started.
Speaker 7: I have already done these things that they brought Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: Juju Smith Schuster was gone for a while, Kareem Hunt. Right, Like,
Speaker 7: it's like what the Patriots used to do. You remember
Speaker 7: they they lost, They traded away to Dion Branch and
Speaker 7: brought him back. Bill loved that, like was like, all right,
Speaker 7: we're gonna get all these assets for this player, and
Speaker 7: then three years later he's going to come back home
Speaker 7: and play for me again. Wouldn't it totally make sense
Speaker 7: if Tyreek Hill wound up back on the Chiefs next.
Speaker 2: Year, Kareem Hunt, they brought him back, yep.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean like they've got the sort of
Speaker 7: program that can absorb it, and god, can you imagine,
Speaker 7: you know, Tyreek Hill and Xavier Worthy running downfield for
Speaker 7: homes next year. I know Hill may not be exactly
Speaker 7: what he was, you know, even last year, but the
Speaker 7: idea of bringing him back at a little bit of
Speaker 7: a discount I think would probably appeal to some people
Speaker 7: in the Chiefs organization, and I'd imagine for Hill. For
Speaker 7: Hill himself, it might put a nice capstone on his career.
Speaker 2: I know you're busy. Thanks for making time, you got it.
Speaker 7: Thanks DP, and I appreciate the flexibility today too.
Speaker 2: Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2: Tom Kerrn, NBC Sports Boston Insider, Hey, Tom, how are
Speaker 2: you today?
Speaker 12: A little bit feel a little bit like Casey casem
Speaker 12: here with that longest dedication.
Speaker 2: Of my dad a dog named Snuggles.
Speaker 12: I hope he finds peace with both his dog.
Speaker 2: You know what, that's gonna That's gonna fix it right there, Tom,
Speaker 2: thank you for helping well.
Speaker 12: You think you gave neither thoughts nor prayers, which is
Speaker 12: to be expected.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Dan, Hey, Happy new Year.
Speaker 4: You let me go.
Speaker 12: I thought it was January fifth.
Speaker 2: I let you go because I think you're trying to
Speaker 2: find happiness because of what's going on with the Patriots there.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Jirobmeo was truly safe until December began, and it
Speaker 12: was such a rapid decline, and it was an on
Speaker 12: all fronts decline. You know, the Crafts beginning the season
Speaker 12: said we expect to struggle. I hope we don't struggle.
Speaker 12: We expect we're going to struggle, and they ended up
Speaker 12: with four wins, which I think if you said, on
Speaker 12: the face of it, Okay, it's gonna be a tough year,
Speaker 12: you're gonna win four games, they wouldn't have boked. But
Speaker 12: the nature of these last four games, the embarrassing loss
Speaker 12: coming off about Arizona followed by a decent representative effort
Speaker 12: against the Bills, followed by what could have been a
Speaker 12: fifty to nothing loss to the Chargers really kind of
Speaker 12: sealed Jirodd's fate. And it was also the messaging around
Speaker 12: those games where a postgame press conferences were sometimes disjointed
Speaker 12: with you'd come out of them with more questions than
Speaker 12: you went in. So he was strapped to him, he
Speaker 12: was strapped to a runaway train, I think with this
Speaker 12: roster in this team, so they the move.
Speaker 2: But we just talked to Albert Breer and he brought
Speaker 2: up something interesting I had not thought of. Is they
Speaker 2: put this language in Drod Mayo's contract, so he was
Speaker 2: the coach in waiting, and then maybe they realized that
Speaker 2: he might be the coach in waiting, but he shouldn't
Speaker 2: be our coach now, maybe that the job was a
Speaker 2: little too big for him. What do you think of that?
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was hope against hope. And I think that
Speaker 12: the Patriots have operated really and I've said some people
Speaker 12: block and they say they won the Super Bowl with
Speaker 12: twenty seventeen. They have operated with a lack of urgencies
Speaker 12: for the better part of six seasons.
Speaker 4: And there has been very.
Speaker 12: Much a tendency that Bill fostered and oftentimes it worked
Speaker 12: and then towards the end it didn't. And the Crafts
Speaker 12: have followed suit with we'll see how it works out.
Speaker 12: We're gonna try this. We'll see how it works out.
Speaker 12: You know it happened with with Brady. Well, he's moving on.
Speaker 12: I mean, we're pretty smart here. We'll see how it
Speaker 12: works out. Didn't work out he won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 12: You know, McDaniels leaves, We're going to elevate these two guys.
Speaker 12: What pretty smart people. You know a lot about football.
Speaker 12: Patricia and Judge will be fine. I'm still here. We'll
Speaker 12: see how it works out. Didn't work out, and then
Speaker 12: the Crafts I think in moving on from Bill a
Speaker 12: year earlier than they wanted to because he had a
Speaker 12: two year deal. They wanted to continue. They wanted him
Speaker 12: to set the record here, but it became so untenable
Speaker 12: with him that they moved on. And I think with
Speaker 12: Girod they saw a terrific leader, a smart guy.
Speaker 4: Who needed seasoning.
Speaker 12: He was put into the position before he got the seasoning,
Speaker 12: and the tenor of the season was we'll see how
Speaker 12: it works out. So they need to be more urgent.
Speaker 12: I really think Dan that making a move within an
Speaker 12: hour of the games end, when there was so much
Speaker 12: uncertainty whether or not a move would even be made,
Speaker 12: shows the urgency.
Speaker 4: I think that they're feeling.
Speaker 2: Do you make this move if you don't have that
Speaker 2: coach in waiting. Granted you have to go through the
Speaker 2: process here, but do you think that they made that
Speaker 2: move knowing who they're going to hire.
Speaker 4: I think they.
Speaker 12: Made that move knowing who they are going to pursue
Speaker 12: and feeling safe enough that the interest will be reciprocated.
Speaker 4: That they might be able to move on.
Speaker 12: You can't just move on and then hire Bobby Slowick.
Speaker 12: Not that Bobby Slowick isn't a good candidate, but what
Speaker 12: ties does Bobby Slowek as an offensive coordinator in Houston
Speaker 12: havefter the New England Patriots. The Patriots, it's very important
Speaker 12: to them they have somebody who has ties. So the
Speaker 12: most obvious candidate would be Mike Vrabel. Rabel has always
Speaker 12: shown great deference to the Crafts in terms of what
Speaker 12: they built here, what this team's all about, and he would.
Speaker 4: Be the antidote.
Speaker 12: It was funny I heard Rex Ryan talking about why
Speaker 12: he would be a good candidate for the Jets today,
Speaker 12: and in saying so, he said, you need somebody to
Speaker 12: understand that fan base and connect with that fan base
Speaker 12: was taught. I'm not talking about x's and o's, but
Speaker 12: that's exactly what Rabel would do. In a way, I
Speaker 12: think that that Buil didn't like Rabel was excuse me,
Speaker 12: Mayo was the antithesis of Bill in some ways. They
Speaker 12: need somebody to split the difference.
Speaker 2: Talking to Tom current NBC Sports Boston insider, knowing what
Speaker 2: you know of Tom Brady, there was a report that
Speaker 2: came out Andrew Marshawn that Tom's probably going to be
Speaker 2: one and done, which would not surprise me, and maybe
Speaker 2: get more involved in the Raiders situation. But knowing Brady
Speaker 2: and how much involvement do you see him with the Raiders?
Speaker 2: And can you see a coaching change here?
Speaker 12: Well, that's a good question. I think Antonio, Pearson Gerard
Speaker 12: have similar styles. I am not close enough to know
Speaker 12: exactly how the ins and outs.
Speaker 4: Are working there.
Speaker 12: I think if they did make a coaching change, what's
Speaker 12: jermaine to me? And this I love you is the
Speaker 12: word Jermaine is that it immediately makes me think When
Speaker 12: you mentioned Brady, I thought you were going to say, well,
Speaker 12: they're going to go after Rabel, and I wonder if
Speaker 12: that would be the case. In the case of Rabel,
Speaker 12: I would think that Brady would see him as the
Speaker 12: best candidate out there. I think the Brabel is the
Speaker 12: best candidate out there for a variety of reasons, the
Speaker 12: main one being experienced. Durrod failed in large part because
Speaker 12: he didn't have podium experience and couldn't anticipate what he
Speaker 12: was going to deal with. Rabel is incredibly astute of
Speaker 12: dealing with that and being one person at the podium,
Speaker 12: being one person behind the scenes with the media being
Speaker 12: a certain way with everyone. So would Brady pursue Rabel
Speaker 12: if he could get him. Would a bidding war ensue
Speaker 12: coast to coast for the services of Brabel? I think
Speaker 12: that would be interesting to see. But I still think
Speaker 12: Rabel would be more amenable to New England just because
Speaker 12: he was here for ten years and understands this area
Speaker 12: as supposed to going all the way out to San
Speaker 12: Francisco and not knowing if Aidan O'Connell was his quarterback
Speaker 12: or Gardner Minshew, whereas Drake may is such a draw here.
Speaker 2: But I wonder if the Crafts are kind of.
Speaker 4: Doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, they've slowed the progress. Everybody's a genius. When you
Speaker 2: got the greatest coaching quarterback of all time, then when
Speaker 2: you don't, then all of a sudden, we're looking for
Speaker 2: answers here, And I like, you have complete trust in
Speaker 2: the Crafts that they'll figure this out, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden you guys, restore the dignity here.
Speaker 12: No, I don't. And I've said that a number of times,
Speaker 12: and I spoke to somebody high up in the organization
Speaker 12: today and I said it very much reminds me of
Speaker 12: nineteen ninety seven when they moved on from Parcels. I
Speaker 12: hired Pete Carroll because he was the antithesis of Parcels
Speaker 12: and that team went from the Super Bowl out of
Speaker 12: the playoffs in three years. And then they brought in
Speaker 12: a major domo type in Bill Belichick, and it went beautifully.
Speaker 12: The Crafts, I think we're out of practice football wise.
Speaker 12: Bill had taken a hold of everything.
Speaker 4: So this is my stuff. I do this.
Speaker 12: This is my football team. You guys run the organization.
Speaker 12: That's your franchise, my football team. And people like to
Speaker 12: think of the Crafts as puppet masters, and I just
Speaker 12: don't think that that's true. They ask questions and they
Speaker 12: register their disappointment if things don't go well. But I
Speaker 12: don't think they're making football decisions and they don't want to.
Speaker 12: They need to get somebody at that friggin' level band
Speaker 12: who's making the football decisions. How do they know if
Speaker 12: their director of West Coast scouting is good or their
Speaker 12: SEC evaluations are good.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 12: So they need somebody above those personnel, people who can
Speaker 12: make those decisions, who can look at a wide receivers
Speaker 12: coach and say, my god, what are you telling these guys?
Speaker 12: We got three catches from our rookies this year.
Speaker 4: What are we doing?
Speaker 12: So they need that, I think. So they're in the
Speaker 12: wilderness right now. But the notion that they're cheap or
Speaker 12: don't care about winning, I think is bizarre. Given and
Speaker 12: that's pretty prevalent around here in New England. I think
Speaker 12: they care incredibly about winning.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't want jirod Meyo to be fired, but
Speaker 2: if it meant that I could have you back on
Speaker 2: the show, then he had to pay the price. There's
Speaker 2: an upside. Yeah, there's an upside to then.
Speaker 4: So Albert was in performing huh.
Speaker 2: Well, Fritzy, do you want to answer that with Tom Kerrn?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a change of plans at the last minutes.
Speaker 6: You know, sometimes someone's available at one time and then
Speaker 6: it's got to shift to another time. There's really no
Speaker 6: specific rhyme or reasons when everyone's available. It's not a
Speaker 6: list of top to bottom who's most important?
Speaker 12: Yeah, No, sounds sounds kind of like what the Patriots
Speaker 12: went through. Albert was available.
Speaker 2: You're our girod mal Hey, great to talk to you,
Speaker 2: all right, Dan, thank you, Bunny, thank you, buddy. Uh,
Speaker 2: all right, I could ask you about Bill Belichick. By
Speaker 2: the way, are you are you expecting Bill Belichick to
Speaker 2: be there for Wait? Why are you shaking your head?
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't wait.
Speaker 12: I don't think he's gonna be there very long.
Speaker 2: Where's he going?
Speaker 8: I don't think it's gonna go great either. It's not
Speaker 8: gonna it's not gonna go the way people think it's
Speaker 8: gonna go. He's not gonna wave a magic bell of
Speaker 8: Chickie in one and have everybody. The portal was a
Speaker 8: real thing. There's no portal in the NFL. Those guys
Speaker 8: are gonna get yelled at one time.
Speaker 12: We're told they don't know where they're asked from their
Speaker 12: elbow and they're gonna be portal in Lake Maniacs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't have to, you know, be uh,
Speaker 2: you know, stuck with the salary cap or the draft.
Speaker 2: You know you can go out, you do though, No,
Speaker 2: there's no draft.
Speaker 12: Well, they want twenty million dollars for spending on these players.
Speaker 12: So you have to figure out how are we gonna
Speaker 12: spend money on these players? Who gets allocated the most
Speaker 12: money and.
Speaker 2: His That's what Michae Lombardi does for him.
Speaker 12: His eyes are going to be rolling like hidden balls
Speaker 12: when he sees over under one and a half years
Speaker 12: at North Carolina. Oh, that's a great one. I would
Speaker 12: say I would take the over, but if the odds
Speaker 12: are good enough, I would The smart bet would be over.
Speaker 12: But I could say under. I mean he's got an
Speaker 12: out next June. No, he's basically announcing if something better
Speaker 12: comes along, see at Chapel Hill.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Tom, thank you, goodbye.