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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're on

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Speaker 1: a plane across the Atlantic, not reclining and respecting the

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Speaker 1: personal space of the people sitting behind us. It's Friday,

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Speaker 1: November fifteenth, and on today's show, we'll be talking with

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Speaker 1: North Carolina Field Hockey head coach Aaron Mattson about her

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Speaker 1: unbelievably fast transition for player to coach, being the youngest

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Speaker 1: coach in any sport to win an NCAA championship, and

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Speaker 1: her team's quest for a third straight national title. Plus

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Speaker 1: a hockey what the fact that'll have you shake in

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Speaker 1: your head and a heartbelt. Happy birthday to my real MVP.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this. Welcome back slices,

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Here's what you need to know today. Tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: the day the NWSL semi Finals kick off with the

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Speaker 1: duel between the Washington Spirit and defending champs Got Them

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Speaker 1: FC at twelve pm Eastern on CBS and streaming on

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Speaker 1: Paramount Plus. It'll take place at Audi Field and get this,

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Speaker 1: the Spirit sold out tickets to the matchup in just

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Speaker 1: seventy two hours. Also, legendary DC rapper DJ Cool will

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Speaker 1: be clearing his throat to perform at halftime of that one.

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Speaker 1: Sure to be a great time for all attending. Kind

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Speaker 1: of bummed I can't go because, let me clear, my

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Speaker 1: throat was on every single hype mix that I made

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Speaker 1: for myself for all of high school and college. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't know, you better ask somebody. Well, the

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Speaker 1: Spirit spoiled goth them's repeat chances in that game. Where

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Speaker 1: steal a spot in the championship. We'll have to wait

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Speaker 1: and see then. On Sunday, the Orlando Pride host the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Current at three pm Eastern on ABC. It's

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Speaker 1: the battle of the forwards in the quarterfinals Golden Boot

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Speaker 1: winner ten, which Huwinga scored the winning goal for Case

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Speaker 1: against the Courage and Barbara Banda put two in the

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Speaker 1: back of the net in the Pride win against the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Red Stars. So can ten win team knock off

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Speaker 1: the number one club in the league and earn the

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Speaker 1: or will the Pride and legendary footballer Marta make their

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Speaker 1: way to the championship in KC. If you missed our

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Speaker 1: episodes with Jeff Kasoof and Meglenahan this week two of

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Speaker 1: the most brilliant minds in the soccer media game. Go

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Speaker 1: ahead and take a lista before Saturday so you're all

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Speaker 1: caught up. Also, the NWSL Skills Challenge set to take

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Speaker 1: the show and NWSL and US Women's Nationalist seem legend

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Speaker 1: Sam Ewis. It won't be available to watch live, but

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Speaker 1: it will air on CBS Sunday at three pm or

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Speaker 1: available to stream that day on Paramount Plus. No word

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Speaker 1: yet on whether they've added that river goal competition. Come on, Cowards,

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Speaker 1: do it elsewhere in the NWSL, Angel City FC is

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Speaker 1: moving on up. The club will relocate training sessions to

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Speaker 1: a new performance center for the twenty twenty five season,

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Speaker 1: a nine acre site on the campus of California Lutheran

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Speaker 1: approximately fifty thousand square feet of indoor space. It'll be

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Speaker 1: It'll also include custom lockers for players, coaches, and staff,

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Speaker 1: The space is undergoing a multimillion dollar remodel that'll be

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Speaker 1: as home for acfc's players and first team staff for

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Speaker 1: up to four years. In college soccer, the NCAA College

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Speaker 1: Cup starts today. Number one seeded Florida State begins its

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Speaker 1: title defense against Samford at five pm Eastern down in Tallahassee.

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Speaker 1: We'll link to the full tournament bracket and schedule in

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Speaker 1: our show notes. In college vibs, Niche, We're doing this again, Vibes.

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Speaker 1: In college volleyball, we got a bunch of rank matchups

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Speaker 1: show notes. In college hoops, we got a big Top

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Speaker 1: twenty showdown on tap today between two unbeaten teams Number

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Speaker 1: Here's how it'll work. The four teams that didn't make

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Speaker 2: that brings us to twenty nineteen, when Lindsay Vaughn announced

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Speaker 1: Uh Okay, Lindsay, my body is broken. Vaughn announced that

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Speaker 2: that is my dog Leo's knees with pins and my

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Speaker 2: idea that the Daily Mail took X rays from Lindsay Vonn's.

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Speaker 1: Also, can we talk about why Lindsay Von's dogs had

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. I went to one of Lindsay Von's Super

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Speaker 1: Congrats to Lindsay. I cannot wait to see her come back,

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Speaker 1: Is like why she's so great? Like who thinks like that?

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Speaker 1: All right? Good stuff? Alex also dog x rays freaking hilarious.

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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail was trying to say. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: We caught up with her on Thursday ahead of UNC's

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Speaker 1: She's now the North Carolina field hockey head coach and

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Speaker 3: Whoo, except Eric.

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Speaker 4: Not much, It's good to be here. I yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Since this is an audio interview, people will not be

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Speaker 3: So your body of.

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Speaker 1: So careful, girl, you just never know what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: It's like serendipity of her leaving right in that moment,

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Speaker 1: The whole different transition. Yeah, you had to just be like,

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Speaker 1: There have been a lot of conversations, especially in really

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Speaker 1: feels like there's been a pivot. Have you witnessed that

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Speaker 1: in your career, going from being a player for coaches

434
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Speaker 1: like that into a coach yourself and trying to recognize

435
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Speaker 1: which things you want to pull from what you've seen

436
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: and which things you want to be part of a

437
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Speaker 1: new generation of coaches doing.

438
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Speaker 4: Definitely, So this is such an interesting thing for me

439
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: because I, yes, I grew up like being yelled at.

440
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 4: I grew up with like grew up with like extra

441
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 4: high standards. I grew up not like on the field

442
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about obviously in my sport, but like I

443
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 4: had the coach who was so intense and like I

444
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 4: liked that. So even here at Carolina, like I I

445
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: was able to be yelled at, like that's how you

446
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 4: got the most out of me, Like piss me off

447
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: and let me feel like I need to run through

448
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: a brick wall like you know. But that's definitely not everyone.

449
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Speaker 4: And it's been so interesting with me finding and creating

450
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Speaker 4: my coaching philosophy. Like I never I never was like

451
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Speaker 4: that towards my teammates per se, but I responded well

452
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 4: to it. So for me, it's all about striking that

453
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Speaker 4: balance of first off, first and foremost, like who are

454
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 4: the people who like that and lean into that? Because

455
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: I have some of my girls tell me like I

456
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: like when you get on me, I like when you

457
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,959
Speaker 4: like get intense. And then I have other girls who

458
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 4: are like Aaron that freaks me out. I don't we

459
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 4: and like even if some of them don't know, like,

460
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: of course that's our job, and like my job is

461
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: emotional intelligence to like read the room and see how

462
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 4: they need it and stuff, and like there is there

463
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 4: is still a group that likes that old fashion like

464
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Speaker 4: traditional way of coaching, but you have to couple it

465
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: with the soft whether it's right after a drill or

466
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 4: right after practice or being like extra soft off of

467
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 4: the field so that you can be that way because

468
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: they like that on the field. Or there's the group

469
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Speaker 4: that like is very avoidant of it, does not respond

470
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Speaker 4: well to it, shuts down, and like you can't even

471
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: you can't. You just can't. Like you have to control

472
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: your tone, you have to control what you're saying. And

473
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Speaker 4: I I don't know, I I feel I agree with

474
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Speaker 4: you that it used to just be acceptable for everyone,

475
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: whether they responded well to it or not. Now it's

476
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 4: not like it needs to like necessarily go away, but

477
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: it's just it's how you.

478
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Speaker 3: Know, it's one of the tools.

479
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and like you super intentional, I think, and honestly,

480
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: it is way less like it's way I've noticed. I

481
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: mean even with our incoming freshmen, like, they are a

482
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 4: different group as a whole group than are our fifthier seniors, Like,

483
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 4: and that's expected, that's fine, that's why we love a

484
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Speaker 4: team sport. But I mean, overall the traditional like yellingness

485
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Speaker 4: and that that's not how you're going to get through

486
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 4: to kids anymore. But if it is someone who like

487
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: likes that intensity when they're playing, then you've got to

488
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Speaker 4: make sure you're hitting it from a different angle at

489
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Speaker 4: other times. Because I definitely have noticed, like I have

490
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Speaker 4: to be so intentional and purposeful with my choice of

491
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Speaker 4: words with I mean, they listen to everything. They take

492
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Speaker 4: every thing to heart. They pay attention to every action,

493
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: so like it's not even just what you're talking and

494
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 4: saying during practice. It's the environment you're creating here in

495
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: our hockey house. It's the environment you create in the

496
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Speaker 4: film room. It's the environment they feel, you know, the

497
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: alums feel. So then when they come back, our kids

498
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 4: lean into what they feel. Like It's crazy how many

499
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: things intertwine and I think you can use that old fashioned,

500
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: like intense style of coaching in the right moment. But

501
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: it's just there's more layers to it now, and there's

502
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Speaker 4: more There's just there's got to be more intention.

503
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this squad, because you mentioned the number

504
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Speaker 1: of players last year that you had played alongside. You're

505
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Speaker 1: going for a three peat here. How many players now

506
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Speaker 1: on this team are back from last year's championship team.

507
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Speaker 4: We only graduated four girls last year, so we have

508
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the other beauty in this This is

509
00:25:54,920 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 4: the last like COVID year two, so we have like

510
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 4: fifth years who weren't redshirted for a year or injured

511
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: for a year like we've had girls who have played

512
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 4: for five years. We have three time national champions like

513
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Speaker 4: as our leaders, as our captain, So there's just a

514
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 4: lot of maturity and experience and veteran leadership going on

515
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 4: in general because of this backlog of COVID, but also

516
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: because we've been winning. People have fun here, they like

517
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: what we're doing. We don't want to leave, so we've

518
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Speaker 4: like retained a lot.

519
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Speaker 1: Tell me about a player or two that have been

520
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Speaker 1: really key to your successes.

521
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Speaker 3: You're eighteen and zero.

522
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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I mean there's so many of them. I

523
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: think we are. We're really unique and lucky in terms

524
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Speaker 4: of being a team that has a ton of star

525
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: power but not getting clouded by that or leaning into that.

526
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Speaker 4: Like we play as a team, so it's actually really

527
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Speaker 4: hard and you're not the first person, like I said,

528
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Speaker 4: and obviously interviews and postgame talks and pregame things and

529
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: it's always like, yeah, like who are your stars And

530
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Speaker 4: I'm like, guys.

531
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Speaker 1: Like I, we don't.

532
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Speaker 4: We have a couple like Stock, But honestly, our entire

533
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 4: team like could lean into that star power. We just

534
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: we try to keep it all grounded and we really

535
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Speaker 4: I think we're a team with the most star power,

536
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: but who plays most like a team, which is a

537
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: hard balance to hit. But you know, two of our

538
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: attacking just forces out there this year are forwards. Are

539
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 4: Charlie Bruder and Riley Heck. And Charlie's a sophomore, Riley's

540
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: a junior, and they both just are gamers. They're finishers,

541
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Speaker 4: they know how to score. Charlie is one of the

542
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: most competitive people I know and has that edge and

543
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: brings that fire out there. And then Riley is just

544
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 4: you don't even have to know field hockey, but you

545
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: know she's at a different level and the game slows

546
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: down for her and what she does and the passes

547
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 4: she makes and the skills she she is able to

548
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: execute like it's it's unworldly. So it's really fun. And

549
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: I relate to them because I was the forward, the

550
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: goal scorer. I like doing the tricky, fancy things, and yeah,

551
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: it's fun to coach them. And then our defense is

552
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: honestly just rock solid. We have a lineup back there

553
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: of veterans and just people who apply what we talk

554
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 4: about and are like so like, which is like, okay,

555
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: that's the that should be the standard, but they really

556
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 4: do it and it's so underrated. And you know, there's

557
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: there's just a good attacking mindset on the team, but

558
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: defensive mindset as well, and it's a really good coupling

559
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: right now.

560
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: I was also the goal scorer and the one who

561
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: like to do the tricky things. And you also mentioned

562
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Speaker 1: you don't have to know field hockey to know the

563
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: scroll is great. Oftentimes when people would come to my

564
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: field hockey.

565
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: Games, they would get confused.

566
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Speaker 1: What's the number one thing people tell you if they're

567
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: checking out a game for the first time, or your

568
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: friends that are coming to support you that aren't familiar

569
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: with the sport.

570
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the one of the biggest hurdles

571
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 4: for us is our sport is so niche, Like it's

572
00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: so different and honestly tactically wise, like it's not crazy

573
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: different from soccer, from lacrosse from I mean all sports

574
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: with the back yeah, exactly have some element of the

575
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: same tactic behind it. So like it's not that, but

576
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: it's more like, yeah, why are the whistles being blown here?

577
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: The whistles exactly what I knew you were gonna say.

578
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: Why do you only want substruction?

579
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

580
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: Why can you only score in the circle?

581
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: Like?

582
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: Why can't you shoot it from anywhere? Why?

583
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: Like?

584
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: So there's all these things, but honestly, the I mean,

585
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: we make it really exciting and the atmosphere that Carolina creates,

586
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 4: like we don't we set the standard in America for

587
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: game day environment everything. So we find people who even

588
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on, are enjoying themselves. And then

589
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: if that's good, then we'll worry about the rule explaining.

590
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: There we go, there we go, Okay.

591
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: Twelve team NCA attorney. It started this week. You got

592
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: a first round by you get going this weekend. You're

593
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: the number one seed playing Delaware. People can watch eleven

594
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: am Eastern Friday on ESPN Plus. What needs to go

595
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: right for you to get to win?

596
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: Honestly, we just need to play our game. And it's

597
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: funny because I think this is another interesting conversation, but well,

598
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: one everybody we like won when I was a freshman

599
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: and we were undefeated, and it was like, okay, you

600
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: did it, and it was like, no, we want to

601
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: do it again. So we did it again, undefeated again,

602
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: and they were like, Okay, you're probably sick of that now, No,

603
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: let's win another Natty in a row. So like people

604
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: think that like we just win and it just happens,

605
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: But it's actually so underrated how hard it is to

606
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: be at the top and one not get complacent with

607
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: that and take that for granted, but like actually look

608
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: to continue to push the standard. Like so this year

609
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: it's been very interesting, Like with the eighteen and oh record,

610
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: it's easy to like get complacent and be like we're

611
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: good enough. We can't do that. We always talk about

612
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: like no matter who we're playing, you know, we are

613
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: we're keeping possession, we're dominating every game. I'm not saying

614
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: we are hands down better than everybody in the country

615
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: like that is a that's not the mindset we have,

616
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: but it is the mindset of like, we have to

617
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: play the standard we set last game, and if we

618
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: do that, we'll be in a good spot to compete

619
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: with anybody. So for us, like Delaware is gonna come out,

620
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: They're going to give us fired, They're going to give

621
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 4: us their best game. We're used to getting anybody's best game.

622
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: But in our mind it's like, Okay, let's take into

623
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: account their threats and their strength and everything. But if

624
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: if we just beat the standard we set and beat

625
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: ourselves hypothetically, you're good.

626
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: We'll be fine.

627
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's kind of just striking that balance of

628
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: taking into account what they're going to throw at us,

629
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: and it's going to be I mean, from here on out,

630
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: it's survive in advance, do whatever you can. But at

631
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: the same time, like just keep doing what we're doing

632
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: and try to get a little bit better at what

633
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: we're doing.

634
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: Who's your toughest competition and tournament?

635
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's another hard one because it is it's

636
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: a tough tournament this year, and then also the way

637
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 4: the brackets fell, like there are two really competitive first

638
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: and second round brackets, like not even looking ahead to

639
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 4: the final four and what those teams will look like,

640
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: but it's really competitive right off the bat. We'll play

641
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: Delaware Friday if we win that game and are able

642
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: to have a good performance. The other side of our

643
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: side is Maryland versus Duke, who are like top ranked

644
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 4: teams really hard. And then the other side of the bracket,

645
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: you know, Michigan and Northwestern, UVA, Syracuse, they're all they're

646
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: all in it. So a couple of these teams we've

647
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: faced and we've you know, played well and had the

648
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: ability to come out on top. But there's also other

649
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: teams that we haven't faced who are doing really well.

650
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: There's teams who, of course, at this point in the season,

651
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: you know, maybe they didn't have a hot start, but

652
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: now they're peaking at the right time. So it's all

653
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: of the exciting things that you want in a tournament.

654
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: But all of the team's Northwestern, Michigan, Syracuse, I mean.

655
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Said wisely, like a coach, don't circle any of them.

656
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: They're all tough competitors.

657
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: Bark Delaware.

658
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: Delawarre's right, don't look past Delaware.

659
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: No, no, So I want to talk.

660
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: About Aaron the player first.

661
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: The iconic recreation of the Michael Jordan photo with the

662
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: scar holding her fingers up showing off your titles. That

663
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: is insanely epic. I'm such a huge Jordan fan too,

664
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: and that just in the Carolina Blue you know, all

665
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: that's so good? Whose idea was that?

666
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: That was our Go Heels productions team? I forget what year?

667
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: With what years are to keep track of which year

668
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: it was when you won the title? You know?

669
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: Isn't that a horrible problem to have?

670
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 1: It was?

671
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: I believe it was at stores Connecticut after we won

672
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: the last one, but anyway, they we had our media

673
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: conference after the game, you know the I was up

674
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: there with two of my teammates and coach Shelton and

675
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: we did our interview and everything, and then we stepped

676
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: off the stage and Jeff Cameratti are one of our

677
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 4: production Go Hills production people. He had a couple of

678
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: his teammates with him and he showed me the picture

679
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 4: and he's like, all right. We brought a chair off

680
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 4: to the side, like we want to recreate this and

681
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: he showed it and I was like, this is sick,

682
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: Like okay, but I really was like ha ha, Like

683
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 4: do you have a cigar? And he was like yep,

684
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: and he whipped it out of his pocket and I

685
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, we're really doing.

686
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: This amazing, that's so cool. Yeah, I mean, just an

687
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: incredible career. And it didn't seamlessly transition from player to coach.

688
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: It's sort of still this amorphous thing. You're one of

689
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: only two players to be selected to the US national

690
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: team at age sixteen. You're one of the country's greatest players,

691
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: but you weren't on the team that went to Paris

692
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: for the Olympics. USA field Dockey says it invited you

693
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: to try out early twenty twenty three when they were

694
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: establishing that main pool of candidates for selection, and when

695
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: you weren't able to attend that camp, they refused to

696
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: make other accommodations for you, even after you said, you know,

697
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: coaching season ends, I want to turn my focus to playing.

698
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: Tell me about the emotions that you had when they

699
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: rejected your attempt to try out.

700
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I guess again, backtracking, when I took this job,

701
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: and you know, it was time to focus and like

702
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 4: I had to prioritize my life literally, I mean everyone

703
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: here at Carolina, everyone, all of my support system, Like

704
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 4: no one wanted to have me choose between continuing to

705
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: play us and this, but I just I felt in

706
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: my heart, I was like, I can't. I can't give

707
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: one hundred percent to both. Like either I'm going to

708
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 4: coach really hard and my play is going to take

709
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: a hit, which knowing now since I've been through it,

710
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: like I didn't have a normal workout schedule and routine,

711
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 4: let alone able to you know, train and give it

712
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: my Also, I was like, that's going to be unfair

713
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: to my play, my career, my teammates or okay, let

714
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: me try to balance this and play and do it.

715
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: And if I was giving all of my energy there,

716
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 4: this would have taken a hit. And like again looking

717
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: back now, I couldn't have learned at the speed I did,

718
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: done what we did, like it wouldn't have worked. So

719
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: even though no one and I was grateful no one

720
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: wanted me to choose, I felt like I had to

721
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: and this was just an opportunity that I was like,

722
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 4: this isn't going to come around in another year or two,

723
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: like this is this is the stars aligned. Everything was circled, highlighted,

724
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: exclamation point like take this, go after your dream. So

725
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: the message I said to us and everyone was kind

726
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: of just like let me get settled. Like I'm I

727
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: don't want to stop playing. I you know, my whole life,

728
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: I've dreamed of being an Olympian, being an Olympian and

729
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 4: representing my country and everything, and like trust me, Sarah,

730
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: like I still hop out at practice and like keep

731
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 4: the girls honest, like I can dangle up like I'm not.

732
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: I'm not too far removed, but I don't know it

733
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: was time to come around yet to like okay, wait,

734
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 4: I got settled way quicker than I expected. We like

735
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 4: the national teams now in Charlotte, which is an easier, way,

736
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: easier trip for me to get there. So again, kind

737
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 4: of all these things started settling. My staff was set,

738
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: like I finally was in a really good place with

739
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 4: my staff, and like they were on board with taking

740
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 4: on some more things, and like I mapped out my

741
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: whole calendar, but like I guess, I don't know, they

742
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: just didn't. They didn't lean into it as much as

743
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: I did. And you know, I my entire career has

744
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: been built behind inspiration and growing our sport. And I've

745
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: you know, built a loyal following and a platform that

746
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 4: has brought field hockey into rooms that it wasn't in before,

747
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: you know, and we're successful here in the story and

748
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: this and that, and you know, I can confidently like

749
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: by my head hits the pillow at night and I

750
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 4: can fall asleep because I know that hasn't waivered and

751
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: it will never waiver. But yeah, like, would I have

752
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 4: loved to be in Paris playing, Yes, what I you know,

753
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: have wished that was shaken out differently? Yes, But you know,

754
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: I also I understand how fortunate I am to be

755
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: where I am here and to have the opportunities I

756
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: have here, And you.

757
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: Know, and they were cool with it, right, I mean,

758
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: I know I listened to Julie Foudy's interview with you,

759
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: and when you took the UNC job, you were asked

760
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: by them if you were really truly comfortable saying go

761
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: out to your playing career and potential Olympic opportunities to

762
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: take the job. And I'm curious how you broke the

763
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: topic with them of returning to play once you decided

764
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: to make the effort towards towards making the team.

765
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to Bubba again R R A D.

766
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: And I mean he's he's on the Olympic Committee. You know,

767
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: he's involved with a lot of He cares heavily, I

768
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: mean Carolina with the Olympic Sports bring home championships. He

769
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: wants as many tar Heels as possible to be Olympians.

770
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 4: And then that's what he told me. He was like, Aaron,

771
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: I don't care if they're student athletes or coaches. Like

772
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: maybe we've never had to really like navigate this one before,

773
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: but like I want as many of Tarios to be

774
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 4: Olympians as possible.

775
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

776
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 4: That includes you. So he was very willing to make

777
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: it work. He gave me the green light to basically

778
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: like start the conversation with USC field Hockey because I

779
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: went to him first. So he's amazing every I mean,

780
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: our executive team here are again my staff like was

781
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: willing to do it. Like it's good for it was

782
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 4: good for the sport. It checked all the boxes, you know,

783
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: it was good.

784
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing is, you know, it is such

786
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: an obvious miss not only one of the greatest players

787
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: of all time, but a name that people know, a

788
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: story that people know. You know, and that's not how

789
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: you pick an Olympic team. We had this discussion on

790
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: our show about Caitlin Clark. It's not eyeballs. It's about

791
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: who deserves to be there. But you did deserve to

792
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: be there talent wise, you were the best. Is the

793
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: door still open for twenty twenty eight and La is

794
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: there a potential softening of their stance or is there

795
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: something you could do in advance of that camp to

796
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: make sure that you're qualified and eligible?

797
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: Definitely the door is not closed at all. It's I've

798
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: I've had certain conversations. I've also been waiting to get

799
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: through the season to have certain conversations and and everything.

800
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: But you know, I I've made it clear that there

801
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 4: there needs to be change in order for me to

802
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: do that, you know, in the way the selection policies written,

803
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 4: in the way certain you know, decisions are are are made,

804
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: and just there needs to be changed. And that's abroad.

805
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: That's where I'll leave it. But definitely not it's not

806
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 4: closed at all.

807
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: Like I awesome, I'm so happy to hear that. I

808
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: would I would love to see it. Just it it'd

809
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: be really cool. Aaron, thank you so much for joining us.

810
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: Just love your story. I find it so fascinating, it's

811
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: so interesting, and we'll really be excited to watch as

812
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: your team tries to go for that three pieze.

813
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: So good luck in the game tomorrow.

814
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 4: Thank you. I know we'll keep it exciting for you guys,

815
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: but I appreciate it. Sarah, it's always great to talk

816
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: to you.

817
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: Hopefully not too exciting on your behalf. You'd rather just

818
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: like blow right through them on.

819
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's actually try to keep it really boring. Actually,

820
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: you're right, we have to take another break.

821
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: When we come back, time to blow your minds with

822
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: another edition of What the Fact? Keep it locked? Welcome

823
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: back slices. With PWHL camps underway and all the buzz

824
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: about women's hockey that's growing, I was thinking about this

825
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: unbelievable fact from a few years ago that still really

826
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: chaps my ass. So it's time once again for What

827
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: the Fact. Let's go back to twenty fourteen. USA Hockey

828
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: is hyping the unveiling of the Nike design jerseys that

829
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: the men's and women's hockey teams will wear at the

830
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: upcoming Sochi Olympics and Paralympics, and in a press release

831
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: and in a press conference with men's players, they didn't

832
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: invite anyone from the women's team. USA Hockey excitedly announces

833
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: some of the details on the jersey, including the fact

834
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 1: that they had paid homage to pass USA gold medal

835
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: winning teams by stitching the years nineteen sixty and nineteen

836
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: eighty inside the collar. So cool, right, Only problem they

837
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: didn't include the year nineteen ninety eight, the year the

838
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: women won gold in Nagano, Japan. Incidental, Accidental, doesn't matter.

839
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: What matters is that a whole room of people at

840
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: USA Hockey, a whole other room full of designers at Nike,

841
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: and god knows how many other rooms of pr people

842
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: and marketing and everyone else simply did not consider the

843
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: women's team. These were the jerseys that they would be wearing,

844
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: jerseys that they would put on to represent their country

845
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: and to realize the accomplishment of their life stream, and

846
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: they were forgotten about entirely. The sled hockey team that

847
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: won gold in two thousand and two and twenty ten,

848
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: they would be wearing those jerseys at the Paralympics without

849
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: their accomplishments honored either. This is just part of a

850
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: long pattern from USA Hockey, and this slight was one

851
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: of many that inspired the twenty seventeen women's team to

852
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: threaten a boycott. Just two weeks ahead of the World

853
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: Championships that were set to take place on home soil

854
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: in Michigan, the players announced they were boycott and quote

855
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: unless significant progress has been made on the year long

856
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: negotiations with USA Hockey over fair wages and equitable support

857
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: end quote. USA Hockey tried to get scabs, it didn't work,

858
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: and ultimately the women got a four year contract with

859
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: most of their demands met, and went on to win

860
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: not just those World Championships in Michigan, but gold the

861
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: next year at the twenty eighteen Olympics. They shouldn't have

862
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: needed to fight so hard for basic respect and acknowledgment. Truly,

863
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: what the fact? And here's another fact. Ninety two percent

864
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: of women say music boosts their spirits while getting ready.

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