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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty, episode

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Speaker 1: four of Like Guys production of My Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. And it's Thursday, August eighteen. We got

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Speaker 1: a national day, International Day. You know what? You know

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Speaker 1: what time it is? When it's eight one eight, First

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Speaker 1: of all, shout out the motherfucking valley. It's eight one

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Speaker 1: eight in the fucking building. But also, you know, to

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Speaker 1: make that a thing, man, I look, you're right, Actually,

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Speaker 1: why the funk am I not doing that? I literally

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Speaker 1: just put this ship together right now. That's how I

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Speaker 1: saw it. I saw it before my very eyes, just

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Speaker 1: like you know that powerful last area code, you know,

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Speaker 1: celebrate by you know, enjoying some O G cush. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is other things along with that National Fajita Day,

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Speaker 1: National ice Cream Pie Day, and Nation Topedo Noir Day.

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Speaker 1: That was the one that he liked Insideways, right, That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's the closest I ever came to like having any

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Speaker 1: sort of understanding of blind cases. The is the movie Sideways,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like he was like, I'm not drinking

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Speaker 1: my loan, but he was okay with peanut noir. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I forget everything except that I believe wasn't the vineyar

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Speaker 1: called the hitching post. I don't remember that. I only

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Speaker 1: remember like the most inconsequence, and that might not even

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Speaker 1: be right. But yeah, a peanut noyer, if you're into it,

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Speaker 1: get down. What about you talk about? Of course means peanut.

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Speaker 1: I like a good ice cream. I like anything that is. Like,

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Speaker 1: my favorite pie is key Line pie. And then I

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Speaker 1: just had a key Line pie that didn't have Graham

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Speaker 1: cracker cruss, and I realized that my favorite pie is

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Speaker 1: anything with Graham cracker cruss, because yeah, yeah, that that

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Speaker 1: is the key ingredient. And and ice cream pie is

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Speaker 1: want to have a Graham cracker crust, in which case

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Speaker 1: I am fully onboard. I mean, look, this day is

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Speaker 1: advocating for you know, these ice cream pies. They say, hey,

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Speaker 1: why don't you combine a Graham cracker crust with maple

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Speaker 1: pecan ice cream for a mult dreams ice cream top bananas? What? Yes, alright,

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Speaker 1: all means all of the means by all of them. Uh,

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Speaker 1: my name's Jack O'Brien a K. I got my deuce

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Speaker 1: straight from the Baja Blast. That ship I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: turned on my tune subway ship. I'm playing my switch

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Speaker 1: up everywhere. Yeah, gamer bitch, I popped my cast right

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Speaker 1: from the source. Yeah, it's like guy ship. That's court

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Speaker 1: to see of Moss written Void belloware at worldwide Little

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Speaker 1: Peaches by Justin Bieber. Yeah, shout out to Moss Written

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Speaker 1: Void Belloware. That is a hell of a Twitter. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles Grind. Sometimes I feel like I'll never get Lambo.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I pissed my past. I host

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Speaker 1: the podcast in the City of Frangels. My name is

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Speaker 1: Miles Host. Now let's go get high, and I don't

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Speaker 1: ever want to feel how I get Lambeau? America eats

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Speaker 1: it young, So just bomb away. Okay. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: that one under the bridge LOCKARONI on the discord, thank you.

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Speaker 1: How are how are we get Lambeau? How are you

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Speaker 1: get get Lambeau? The great American question? How are you

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Speaker 1: get Lambeau? That's right now, Colonel tattoo Dude, I added

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Speaker 1: it to all the tattoos on my face and across

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Speaker 1: my chest. How are I get Limbo? Well? Miles. We

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined once again in absolutely by

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Speaker 1: an award winning writer for Slate whose words verses on

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Speaker 1: identity and religion. He wrote and produced the amazing video

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Speaker 1: series Who's Afraid of Amen ismail Uh. He's appeared on CNN, MPR,

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Speaker 1: featured in New York Post, ad Week or The Huff

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Speaker 1: and then post Please Welcome Amen is my Yeah, right back,

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Speaker 1: that's a deep cut. That's a deep cut for the

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Speaker 1: Muslims listening. Okay, are we celebrating something or that was

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Speaker 1: just like a good that I feel like we should

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Speaker 1: be We should be. I mean, I've been on this

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Speaker 1: tip when like in the last two years there's been

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Speaker 1: like five new shows on TV, five new series that

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Speaker 1: speak just to Muslims. We're talking about like Ramy, Miss Marvel,

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Speaker 1: Moon Night, and now we have Mo the new show

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Speaker 1: coming out on Netflix, Like you know, am it? It

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Speaker 1: just it feels like there's so much happening in that community,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to feel like a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll just like speak out to them. Hell yeah

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Speaker 1: one time. That's always a beautiful thing. Where like are

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Speaker 1: we are we getting some winds over here happening? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: For real, always a pleasure where you come to us from.

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Speaker 1: I'm still in New k New Jersey, still in Brick City. Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I even want to be here anymore.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I've like wrapped it really hard.

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Speaker 1: I think the first time I was on this show,

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Speaker 1: I had like a Newark hat, and this time I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, ah, man, dude. They're like, they're trying to

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Speaker 1: build another power plant. We have three power plants in

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Speaker 1: this like four square mile community, three, which is more

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Speaker 1: than you'll find any other areas you're a collector, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got like the best power plants for some reason.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time there they just approved a

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Speaker 1: fourth one where they're gonna import the ship, like the

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Speaker 1: actual ship from New York and from other states, human

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Speaker 1: ways to bring it into They're gonna truck it in

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're called bio solids, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: which is, yeah, can we have can we afford that

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Speaker 1: Is that going to somehow produce energy or this is

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Speaker 1: independent of the electrical plant. It's it's so that has

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Speaker 1: like to two prongs, right. The first prong is it's

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Speaker 1: better than leaving it in a landfill. Right. Yeah. Usually

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Speaker 1: with this stuff, what happens to the stuff is that

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Speaker 1: it gets dumped in the water, or it ends up

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Speaker 1: in some lot in Pennsylvania or other parts of New

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Speaker 1: Jersey or whatever. But in this way, they're thinking that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna truck it just across the river to New York,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, and we're gonna use it, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: cut the production of the actual cement, which is way

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Speaker 1: worse for the environment than what they would be doing.

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Speaker 1: So they actually pitched it as a green project. But

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Speaker 1: same time, this community is mostly black and brown. Historically

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Speaker 1: it's been redlines, so people who were here couldn't leave

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Speaker 1: and buy houses in Millburne or Nutley or other communities

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Speaker 1: they have no power plants, and I wonder why. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like, why why does that

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Speaker 1: need to be. We're in a place where there's already

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Speaker 1: three power plants, right, Can this more pollution? That's the

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Speaker 1: question I have to ask. And as a dad, now

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Speaker 1: I also have to ask that am I comfortable continuing

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Speaker 1: keep adding to the pollution. I have to I have

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Speaker 1: and that's that's why the wait. Are what kind of

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Speaker 1: incinerator where they just straight up lighter on fire. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is innerator is like walking distance from me, and

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Speaker 1: one day it literally turned the sky purple for some reason,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was shooting out from the smoke stack was purple.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, it's fine, it's normal. Yeah, Like we

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Speaker 1: have an a gender reveal at the power plants. Don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it. Congrats today they both out, you know,

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. Sure, sure, And also yeah, you gotta

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Speaker 1: also the way this place is set up. It's almost

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Speaker 1: asking me a lot of hard questions. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: grew up with asthma. Uh yeah, yeah, I actually grew

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Speaker 1: I'm against the fucking forces of capitalism. I'm not having

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Speaker 1: it's it's wild heather. So many ways to make yourself

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Speaker 1: but the way society scide society so fucked up. I'm

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Speaker 1: Starbucks going for the kill on unions. Like I thought,

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Speaker 1: there were so many victories, but they're they're basically being like,

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Speaker 1: the these they're they're just doing what Trump did to

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Speaker 1: ask uric guest, what is something from your search history?

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Speaker 1: I was looking up Starbucks evil actually because I was

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Speaker 1: actually reading about the union thing a second ago, and

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Speaker 1: actually a nod at something evil and satanic, and it's

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Speaker 1: like a whole conspiracy rabbit hole about how Starbucks is

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying those things are true. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I know that it's like it's fun, but that's what

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Speaker 1: I was looking for it so I can remember what

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Speaker 1: exactly about the hidden evil of the Starbucks logo on

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Speaker 1: the Scott Smith blug. I feel like that would make

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Speaker 1: them way cooler than I think they actually are, as

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Speaker 1: him all day with that PSI. Oh, I'm setting it

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Speaker 1: and down. It's probably not good for the gear. So

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Speaker 1: what I do is I just have a camera bag

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Speaker 1: that has easy access, and so when I'm done shooting,

425
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: I just flip it over one on one side of

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Speaker 1: the arms, stuff to camera and keep moving. How angele

427
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Speaker 1: is a camera like that? Like? Is that is that

428
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Speaker 1: something that if it's just fucking flying around on a

429
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: on a strap like that, is it it could break?

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Speaker 1: Or is not? Alright? No, that it's the lens. The

431
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Speaker 1: lens is obviously the Probably the funked that up. Like

432
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Speaker 1: there's a wrap a body you could you could get

433
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Speaker 1: away with some ship if you smash it up a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but the glass you funked out up, it's

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Speaker 1: m m mm hmm. And I've known some people who

436
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Speaker 1: have like the craziest looking bodies and they're proud of it,

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Speaker 1: especially concert photographers, you know, people who shootn't venues. Look

438
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Speaker 1: at their gear. Man, it looks like it seemed battle.

439
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure in a way, it's actually kind of right,

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Speaker 1: like it's I'm worried that Balenciaga, after hearing this, is

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Speaker 1: going to come out with like the raggedy you know.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk list Cheney, we'll talk third parties, and we're back.

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Speaker 1: And Liz Cheney, as predicted, defeated in her primary race

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Speaker 1: against someone whose name I have not committed to memory.

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Speaker 1: But I mean there's just like really really no need

447
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Speaker 1: to It's not it's not that important. The most you

448
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: need to know is that this woman, Harriet Hagman, had

449
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: one of the worst looking like fashion choices I've ever seen.

450
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Speaker 1: Like it really has this like quilt coat that's baffling,

451
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: but anyway sound baffling almost it would work very well

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Speaker 1: as sound. It really would it really would you know,

453
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Speaker 1: it's you know, God got her own magna swag, her

454
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Speaker 1: own swagger. But yeah, she one handle. I think with

455
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Speaker 1: sixty of the vote. She got six percent of the vote,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think if you turn on like

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Speaker 1: CNN or MSNBC, some are like being like, hey, you know,

458
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: it's like almost ereing her like a fallen hero. But

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00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: come on, y'all, like, does she deserve an applause? Like

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00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: she helped elev eight Trump, she voted for night, She

461
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: voted with him nine of the time, and only found

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00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: a backbone after January six, presumably because she hoped that

463
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: an electoral defeat would be a tidy way to get

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Speaker 1: him out the way, which is I just feel like

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the most charity I could give her,

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Speaker 1: So I'll give her, you know what, I'll give her

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Speaker 1: one point because she did draw the line at election theft,

468
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Speaker 1: but not at things like restricting like healthcare or lgbt

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Speaker 1: Q rights or voting rights or human rights like that.

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Speaker 1: So there it is. But really what this says is

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Speaker 1: that this is this is pretty much the as many

472
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Speaker 1: people are saying, it's the purge of anybody who went

473
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Speaker 1: against Trump and the house is pretty much gone off

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Speaker 1: without a hitch, eight out of ten. So yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you said there's two left and they're hanging on by technicalities. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like one like there's a it's just like the way

477
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Speaker 1: the district is set. It's just it's like it's an eventuality.

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Speaker 1: I think the other is a friend of Kevin McCarthy,

479
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: and Kevin McCarthy like begged Trump to not like name him,

480
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Speaker 1: to maybe geek out a win. Yeah, no, seriously, So

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00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: you know it's it's her. Her speech when she conceded

482
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: was sort of like, you know, I could have won

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Speaker 1: this race, but I didn't want to throw the whole boot. Okay,

484
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: I only wanted to lick the tip a little bit

485
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and then I drew the line

486
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: there and that's why I got smashed by somebody who

487
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: was willing to regurgitate any amount of nonsense. So, you know,

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00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: this make this probably, you know, obviously the end of

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Speaker 1: the road for her as a congress person at the moment.

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00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: But there's already a lot of talk and you know,

491
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Speaker 1: saying like, yeah, I might think about running for president too,

492
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Speaker 1: And there's like a new leadership pack that she's like

493
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Speaker 1: shifting her money into it's called like the Great Task

494
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: or some ship, very cryptic, it's something it's some ship

495
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: like that, very very very honest. So and then a

496
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: lot of people think, like, you know that that may

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Speaker 1: that maybe her ultimate aim is to just to be

498
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Speaker 1: a permanent thorn in Trump's side. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: her as a presidential candidate feels very like the wet

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Speaker 1: dream of like CNN Sienna loves that ship. Oh yeah,

501
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: idea of Like, first of all, she's you know, got legacy,

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Speaker 1: she's got the nepotism thing going. She has like, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what when the national news cycle was like, well,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bush is going to be the nominee type ship, Like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that I could see her getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention that way. And if she can somehow

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Speaker 1: rip off the band aid for you know, get getting

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00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: people's mind around third parties, I would be all about that.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. I mean, it looks like a good pedigree though,

510
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, her dad, her dad actually knows how to

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Speaker 1: steal an election. That's true, Like look out, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a feathering about Florida. Yeah, you know

513
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Speaker 1: what I mean. But yeah, we'll see what I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Amy, what do you think you see her

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Speaker 1: being serious, like having a serious political career after a

516
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: lot of people. No, man, I think she's done. I

517
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: think she also knows that she's done. It's it's like

518
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: that scene at the end of Black Panther where to

519
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Tall at the end is like, you know what, I

520
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: can kind of see things your way now, It still

521
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: doesn't erase everything that the villain has done the whole movie,

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00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean this Cheney is a very

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Speaker 1: staunch conservative and when we're thinking about what's good for

524
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Speaker 1: the country, actually forget what's good for the country, think

525
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: about where the polls are, the national polls, and what

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Speaker 1: people actually want. She's one of those people that's voted

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Speaker 1: regularly against what nationally people in America usually want for

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Speaker 1: this country. And on top of that, if you want

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Speaker 1: to just for a second, talk about her position on waterboarding. Hey,

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00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: she doesn't think that waterboarding is actually tortured. She's on

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00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: record saying that it's not torturing, that it's an interrogative

532
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: interrogation technique that works. And to this day, to this day,

533
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Speaker 1: she still think that that's why in the end we

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Speaker 1: were able to get been leading. Never mind the fact

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Speaker 1: that the CIA, the CIA themselves had their own fact

536
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: finding agency that produced like a six thousand, seven hundred

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00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: page report that Indian concluded that there is no evidence

538
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: saying that any information obtained by any of those two

539
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Speaker 1: interrogation techniques if you want to torture, nothing obtained by

540
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: torture helped us get been leading. But that doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She's still in that realm

542
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: of conservative where her her position matters more than the

543
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Speaker 1: truth when it comes to actually hurting people and hurting

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Speaker 1: the country. I don't know, man, I'm kind of glad

545
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: to see her go. Yeah, it's nice that she at

546
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: the very end grew up conscious, but we would have

547
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: loved to see that conscious. But what I think I'm

548
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: more worried about is where the Conservative and Republican Party

549
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: is going because I think this, in my opinion, what

550
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: was at stake was what power. I think a lot

551
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: of people were talking about Trump as being this tangential

552
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: figure in the Republican Party. Now he's sort of out

553
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: of the way, he's quieter, he's off Twitter, he doesn't

554
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: have that reach. I think he proved a lot of

555
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: people wrong by getting Liz Cheney totally. You know, it's

556
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: it's insane the margin that she was beat out by

557
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: man like just that's insane, incumbent. I don't think that's

558
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: ever happened before ever, So I think it's not a

559
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: good sign if you're someone who's worried about Trump's power

560
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: and at the same time, uh, knowing now that the

561
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Republican Party is is a party that's loyal to a person,

562
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna get hair from here. Is I'm feeling

563
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, bro, I think these

564
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: some of these people think this motherfucker's Jesus. They some

565
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: of these amvangelicals are talking to It's like he's redefining

566
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: religion for some people, with like their adherence to everything

567
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: that he says. I mean, I think one of the

568
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: reasons why they're really energized to is like the Republicans.

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00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: It's easier to be like this, the fucker's a trader

570
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: and turn out against them while being upset at like what,

571
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, Democrats being in power. But for sure, I

572
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: mean like it it shows that that grievance vote was

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00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: very potent there. But I don't know, you know that

574
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: she maybe she'll spoil the party. I don't know. It's like,

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00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know who she takes. It's like those people

576
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: who might be like I can't get with Trump, it's like,

577
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: well don't. I don't know if those are votes for

578
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: anybody else. But anyway, Yeah, I recently ran a piece

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Speaker 1: in Slate about the line between extremism and mainstream Republican

580
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: politics shrinking right. And so I talked to a research

581
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: fellow at the Sufion Center, which is like this far right,

582
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: not not far They they investigate extremism wherever it comes from,

583
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: and they found that that line that's you know, the

584
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: distance that a person has to travel to find crazy

585
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: conspiracies and violent rhetoric has virtually disappeared. And now if

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00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: you go online and you're looking for just running the

587
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: mill conservative ideas, you're pretty much guaranteed to be funneled

588
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: into one of these corners of the Internet where you're

589
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: bounty encounter some of the most hardcore ship you know

590
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so this, I think, like the

591
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: whole this chainey thing is just it's like a symptom

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00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: of a bigger problem, which is that the the person

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00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: who was online looking for conservative ideas now is just

594
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: being thrashed with so much of this crazy extremist ship.

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00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about just like extremism on like

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00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: abortion or you know, I'm talking about we gotta burn

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00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: it down, you know what I mean, like accelerationist. Yeah,

598
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: it's insane. So I think that distinction is important between

599
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: like what Republican ideas are and like the the extremism

600
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: ship that this group is talking about when they're for example,

601
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: trying to kind of tear all of the institutions apart,

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00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: tear try us away from these two institutions so that

603
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: people feel helpless and working with the system, so they

604
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: start looking for solutions outside the system. And those solutions

605
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: are not going to be peaceful. Right now, we're talking

606
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: about subverting the will of American democracy, the will of

607
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: your neighbor. Now you're just trying to enforce it by force.

608
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: And so what does that look like? It looks like

609
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: the dude going and setting his car on fire in

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00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: front of the in Washington, d C. And we're talking

611
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: about the dude who tried to blast through a bulletproof

612
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: glass and an FBI building in Cincinnati with a nailgun.

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00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: You know, that's what that looks like. And so I

614
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: think it's it's not looking good. It's not looking good.

615
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: But do you think like he is more electorally viable

616
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: than like what people are giving him credit? Like it

617
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: it seems to me like he is the presumptive presumptive

618
00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: like winner, not even the nominee primary. I don't like

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00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna be the nominee. Like I feel

620
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: like the amount of energy we're seeing out here in

621
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: like unprecedented wins and you know, granted as Wyoming or

622
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: whatever the funk, but like it just feels like the

623
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: people are once again sleeping on the fact that Trump

624
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: is going to be the president again barring some manner

625
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: of like I don't know charges against him, which is

626
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: also very unlikely. I feel like I don't know, man,

627
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: it's bleak bleak times, and like what does a Trump

628
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: presidency look like? Yeah, but I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's why that's why it's close to pick. Gotta pay

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00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: attention to these mid terms, man, That's you'll see what

631
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Speaker 1: a how much people are like, Oh, do I have

632
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Speaker 1: to vote to keep my rights for the first Like,

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Speaker 1: do I need to go get out to do that.

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Speaker 1: Will they do that? Are people connected enough to what

635
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Speaker 1: the stakes are? Is by virtue of all of the

636
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: talk in my DC really centering around like what's going

637
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: on with Trump? Like is he going to jail? Is

638
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: he getting indicted? Is he getting be charged? Definitely good

639
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: for like the media energy machine. But then like when

640
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: I do see people like Eric Trump being like these

641
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: people were like fighting over giving me dinner. You gotta

642
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: see it, I'm like that did ship didn't happen? Full

643
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: shut up, Like it's not like that, okay, but I

644
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: do understand that it is. This is the absolute position

645
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: Fox Trump the right wing loves to be in, is

646
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: to get into like we got they they're coming for

647
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: us mode. But you know, again, seeing how like ill

648
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: equipped Republicans are when asked to comment on everything are

649
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: like about this situation, then you're like, damn my god,

650
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure these people would again rather be trying to say, like,

651
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: actually following gas prices is bad for Americans because that

652
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I think the lesson from sixteen

653
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: when Hillary lost was that elections aren't won by energizing

654
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: your bay. The elections are won by getting the other

655
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: side to not show up. You know, right, that was

656
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: the issue with Hillary. It's not that Trump's support got

657
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: him over the edge. It was that. But also Hillary

658
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: supporters didn't show up, you know, partly because of you know,

659
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: her her emails and the FBI opening and investigation just

660
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: literally the same month of the election. But at the

661
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: same time it's it's you know, I think we need

662
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: to be thinking about that moving forward a little bit

663
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: more because what is it that's going to get Democrats

664
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Speaker 1: out and to vote? I think the problem is, right,

665
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: we always talk about it. I just saw a headline

666
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: it's like, what can Joe Biden do to bring out

667
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: the youth vote or you know, like what has to

668
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: app happen? And it sounds like this thing where the

669
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: youth vote is this thing that like it's like through

670
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: this alchemy we can energize them. What is the secret recipe?

671
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: When really it's about ken It's not about the youth

672
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: vote waking up. It's about can the party actually appeal

673
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: to people? Stop putting it in the in the hands

674
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: of like can the youth vote wake up? It's like

675
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Speaker 1: are you even are you even espousing policies that interest people?

676
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: Like can you even connect with them? It's not that

677
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: you're trying to prod this like dead fucking body on

678
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: the side of the road, like hey, come on, man,

679
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: wake up. It's about can you even put something in

680
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Speaker 1: the air that people are like, Oh, that's a direction

681
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: that I believe in that we can go for because

682
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times people, you know, here a lot

683
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: of political talking, like there's a bunch of bullshit case

684
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Speaker 1: and point. Fucking Andrew Yang recently out here talking about

685
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Speaker 1: his third party on CNN, and he this guy thinks

686
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: he's so big brain. He's like, no, man, it's the

687
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: fucking it's about. It's about going forward, man, it's about progress.

688
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I know I progressed me and something very

689
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Speaker 1: specific to me. But when he was asked by Jim

690
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Speaker 1: Accost on CNN, this dude, oh my god, it's so

691
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: really you gotta listen to this. But like, this is

692
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: what happens when your people pleasing part of your brain

693
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: is completely blown out because you don't even know what

694
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Speaker 1: to do it, Like, how can anybody these things have

695
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: taken over my body? Okay, here we call please please

696
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: show us, show us the way. On both sides, you're

697
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: gonna have to come up with policies. Yeah, but Andrew,

698
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have policy positions at some point.

699
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Speaker 1: How does the Forward Party feel about ro versus wage

700
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: should have been overturned? Well, I personally think that women's

701
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: reproductive rights are fundamental human rights. But the Forward Party

702
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: has not left or right. But Forward stands on even

703
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: the most divisive and contentious issues. Don't you have to

704
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Speaker 1: take asition. You can't just say, well, you know, this

705
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Speaker 1: is a hot button issue, so I'm not going to

706
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: take a position on you. You know you want to

707
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: run the country, You're gonna have to make some hard decisions, Andrew. Again,

708
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: the Forward Party is about that common sense consensus majority

709
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Speaker 1: of view, which is very clear on abortion, it's clear

710
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: about guns. What about change, It's actually clear on just

711
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: about every issue under the sun. Should year olds were changed?

712
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: Should because of the nature of our system, should eighteen

713
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Speaker 1: year olds be able to buy airt Again, the common

714
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: sense consensus. There should be some rules around background checks

715
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: and access to firearms. But we're not getting any of

716
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Speaker 1: these things, Jim, because the two party system does not

717
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: need to deliver. Okay, it doesn't even sound like you

718
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Speaker 1: can deliver on even having a take on ship this

719
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: is the So the idea that he's pitching is a

720
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Speaker 1: third party that is the center is to the center,

721
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: and that is based on this talking point that was

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Speaker 1: created by the Republicans, that is, the Democrats are too

723
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Speaker 1: far to be left, too extreme, except they're not extreme

724
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: about literally anything like there's not an extreme left position

725
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: that is occupied by the Democratic Party. So like anytime

726
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Speaker 1: you try and ask, like the this new idea for

727
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: a third party to like articulate how their position is

728
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: different from the Democrats in any way, they can't because

729
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: the Democrats are the centrist party. But the issue is

730
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Speaker 1: we don't have a party that is to the left

731
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Speaker 1: or like he says left or right beforeward. Okay, so

732
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Speaker 1: you're talking progress, right, uh huh, that's I think that's

733
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Speaker 1: a rap. Sure, if that's what you're saying, because if

734
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Speaker 1: we're talking progress, inherently we're talking about disrupting the status quo,

735
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Speaker 1: and you should be able to articulate things like rather

736
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Speaker 1: than falling back on a tidy talking point like well

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Speaker 1: they're coming since consensus. Well if your party represents that,

738
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: then fucking say that, right, And what I just at

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Speaker 1: the problems like you just there needs to be a party,

740
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we're not gonna fucking waffle is like

741
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: we need to go hard. Part Like we go hard.

742
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Speaker 1: We're not mincing words about ship like and that. That's

743
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: what the Republicans are right now. But they're just going

744
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Speaker 1: hard for fucking autocracy and the fucking crystal fascism. Well right,

745
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: there's there's a like whole middle like fuzzy middle part

746
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: that is like traditional Democrats and traditional like Republicans, and

747
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: then there is like a fascist thing that is what

748
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: like mega has become. And that's it. That's the entirety

749
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: of like American political thoughts. Like those are your options.

750
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Speaker 1: Nobody has articulated anything else other than you know, like

751
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: a handful of people who are not candidates unless you

752
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: yourself are like reading like about like actually educating yourself

753
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: like socialism and things like that. I mean, yeah, there

754
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: are there are many ways to look at, you know,

755
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: how our country is operating. But I think because the

756
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: ones that, like you're saying, those are the ones that

757
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: are most readily available and overly represented for people are

758
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: just like let me click on this news site, right,

759
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: what do what do you guys think about? Like preferential voting.

760
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: You know, when you like assigned a party in number

761
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Speaker 1: and you say, okay, I kind of like I'll give

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Speaker 1: Democrats to three Republicans at two in the Green Party one,

763
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: and you just like they calculate it that way. I

764
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: think they do that in other countries. Yeah, you do that.

765
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Speaker 1: I mean, anything better than the two party system that

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Speaker 1: we have right now, like that the current like winner

767
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: take all thing and the current like entrenched Republican Democrat

768
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Speaker 1: are not you know, the like they make it impossible

769
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Speaker 1: for a third party, So like, yeah, that that would

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Speaker 1: be great. I feel like the only way we see

771
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Speaker 1: any third party is it is if Trump is prevented

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Speaker 1: from being the Republican nominee, then like comes through as

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Speaker 1: a third party candidate and like something extreme and accidental

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Speaker 1: and you know, something that neither of the two major

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00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: parties can deal with because right out, like there's so

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00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 1: the whole that they are the entire system Republican Democratic Party,

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Speaker 1: So like there you can't you really can't do anything

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Speaker 1: unless you already like have built in a majority of

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Speaker 1: like you know, just insane numbers or energy or or

780
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Speaker 1: something like that. I mean I feel like the energy

781
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: right now is with fucking organized labor. That's something that

782
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: is becoming increasingly more at the front of mind for

783
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Speaker 1: American people, especially working people, and we see a lot

784
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Speaker 1: of people who are you know, fighting to try and

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Speaker 1: get equitable wages and benefits and things like that. And

786
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: again we always, you know, you always see like, oh,

787
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Speaker 1: these these talking points work when you're like, hey man,

788
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: you should be able to fucking live off a one

789
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: job and ship like that. But again, the issue is

790
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: you always have you're always going to go up against

791
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: the donor class, which are the people who cut the

792
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Speaker 1: checks for the people whose vote you're trying to get,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, hey man, don't don't talk that ship

794
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: like you're gonna fucking raise my taxes. Man, funk out

795
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Speaker 1: of here, fucking I'll wreck your whole ship with fucking

796
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: with attack ads. Come on, now, you know what I've

797
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of hate the way that it's

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Speaker 1: set up right now because it will split the vote

799
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Speaker 1: like crazy. You know what I mean by splitting the vote,

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00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: Like if we have people who are going to be

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Speaker 1: looking at this long list of parties and they're going

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Speaker 1: to be thinking, oh, well, I kind of I am

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Speaker 1: not sure if I'm gonna go left or super left

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00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: or even more left then that that will split the vote.

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Speaker 1: So I'm Egyptian and I was paying really close attention,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was when you just had like

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Speaker 1: the first democratic election ever in its history, right, going

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00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: all the way back to Phonic times even, and the

809
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: way that they did their election was kind of like

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Speaker 1: what we do here where everybody is invited to make

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Speaker 1: their own parties, right, But there were these two existing

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Speaker 1: parties that were already they had already a ton of support.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Muslim Brotherhood, which is like the

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Speaker 1: theocratic conservative party. But then they also had the Military,

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Speaker 1: which is sort of the old regime, which was also

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00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: like a super hardcore conservative party. So everybody who wanted

817
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: to vote progressive or liberal, which when I was down

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Speaker 1: there and was interviewing people into her square was most people, right.

819
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Speaker 1: Nobody wanted the Muslim Brotherhood and nobody wanted the old

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Speaker 1: government that they just revolted against, and so they were

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Speaker 1: just during to argue over like who was the better

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Speaker 1: of these three different liberal parties. And so what happened

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Speaker 1: in the end, the Conservatives voted for the Muslim group

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Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood, the Military people voted for the military group

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Speaker 1: and they were all in line there was, they had

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Speaker 1: their support. And then all the people voted for liberals,

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Speaker 1: which if you added up all those talies they would

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Speaker 1: have won. They weren't even on the runoff. They weren't

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Speaker 1: even in the top two, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It was like split between a hundred different parties in Canada.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so all of the people

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Speaker 1: that I when I was there, when they were talking

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Speaker 1: about who are you gonna vote for this person of

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Speaker 1: that person, neither of them were ever hurt from again,

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Speaker 1: you know, because they didn't have that kind of support

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Speaker 1: to compete with the government or compete with the government,

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Speaker 1: compete with the military, or compete with the Muslim brotherhood.

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Speaker 1: So I'm almost like, I think we need to make

839
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Speaker 1: up our mind. Do we want just the two parties.

840
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Speaker 1: Are we're gonna vote fascism yes or no? Or do

841
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: we want that kind of tiered system where we can

842
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Speaker 1: say I'm gonna give this one three points, this one

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00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: two points, this one five points, and that way there's

844
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Speaker 1: sort of at least like a second choice, you know. Yeah,

845
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Speaker 1: It's like and at the end of the day, like

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Speaker 1: whenever I think of I'm like, yeah, that would work.

847
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, but the second you give people

848
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: the option to take a bite out of a corporation's

849
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: ass and that's popular, like the amount of money that's

850
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: spent to like defeat policies like that, I'm like, what's first, Like,

851
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: do we just need to get the money out of

852
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: politics first? You know, to even to even have some

853
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: semblance of a process that isn't completely tampered with moneyed interest.

854
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: But on some level it always we always be because

855
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: you know, our reliance on like the media and things

856
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: like that. But it's, uh, it's yeah, a complex problem,

857
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, at the moment, I think we're just stuck

858
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: with Hey, you want which old guy you want? You

859
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: want like kind oh yeah, exactly, pick a old guy.

860
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: Which one you want the one who's like, you know,

861
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: kind of chill or the one who's definitely a fascist? Uh?

862
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: And then you're like, what about like someone fascist or fascist?

863
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Light one? Right? Exactly right, sugar free Fascist Citizens United

864
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: has been like a flashpoint on the left that I've

865
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: seen at least some people rallying behind. I know, the

866
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders crowd was very in favor of repealing that.

867
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: I would love to see more energy behind that. I

868
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: think you're right, I think, and I do some some

869
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: of my own monitoring of the right wing extremists, and

870
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: they hate money in politics just as much as a

871
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders supporter would, you know. And in fact, they

872
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: some of them of Trump so much because they see

873
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: him as the anti establishment candidate. And right now they're

874
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: doing a victory lap over this Cheney because they see

875
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: him as old as the as the person that can

876
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: get rid of some of these establishment types, you know.

877
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: So it's I think one of the tweets that I

878
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: saw from like this hardcore right person was, you know,

879
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: because of Trump, we won't have a Bush or a

880
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Cheney in politics right now, right, and and that they

881
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: see him as like that that kind of politics Vanquisher,

882
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: And so I think if we can find a way

883
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: to bring that to the forefront, I think that would

884
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: be a strong united I think you're on one. It's

885
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: just the one. It's like the answer to every question

886
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: we have, you know, Like we talk about like, well

887
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: how come it still being so hard for the unit,

888
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: Like this Starbucks union push right now, It's like, well,

889
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: the fucking and like the National Labor Relations Board is

890
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: severely underfunded and they can't keep up with helping like

891
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: workers organized, when like that's the federal agency tasked with it.

892
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: And you get why people will drag their heels as

893
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: representatives of Congress to not fund certain things because of

894
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: how how the money flows. And I'm like, it answers

895
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: so many questions. And I remember when I was working

896
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: in politics, I was like, damn, it's this fucking just

897
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: in front of your faceward. It's like this motherfucker signs

898
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: your biggest check. So now all of your fucking energy

899
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: goes into protecting this person's fucking business interests. And then

900
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: like meanwhile, you said, go you glad hand in your

901
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: district and be like yeah, man, we'll build this community

902
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: center and ship. But no, you're not. You're gonna go

903
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: because you've been paid to like vote a certain way

904
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: on these like like ten bills every year that really

905
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: matter most of your donors. And then you fucking go

906
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: on with it and you don't, and you you you

907
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: save your time from having to actually fundraise like small

908
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: dollar donations because lobbyists come in with huge packaged donations

909
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: from other moneyed interests and now you're like, oh, Ship,

910
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm set, I got more noe who's gonna try and

911
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: step to me in a prime Mary, I'll blow them

912
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: out with the amount of cash I have because I'm

913
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: backed by all this money. And I think that's the

914
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: one that's the only that's like, I feel like without

915
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: that piece being taken out, there's absolutely no fucking way.

916
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: Because they are they're always able to put their fingers

917
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: and Ship, let's take a quick break, we'll come back,

918
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: We'll we'll keep talking about this. Then what's happening with Starbucks?

919
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: And we're back, and yeah, so let's talk about what

920
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: what's going on in Starbucks because we we've then kind

921
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: of covering the steady drip of like positive victories for

922
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: unionization of various Starbucks stores across the country. Over two

923
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: locations have voted to unionize. But Big Howie Schultz is

924
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: coming through and is just trying to, you know, flip

925
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: the table basically and be like those votes don't count.

926
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta redo the vote. No fair is

927
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: It's like playing a board game with a four year

928
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: old and except the four year olds aloud to just

929
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: flip the table over and be like all right, we

930
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: gotta start over again, right, and then fire you too,

931
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: like I'm fired how But yeah, I mean, like you know,

932
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: those those those those votes to unionize are obviously just

933
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: like a first step, right, And like you're saying, sucking

934
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: Starbucks is like doing everything they can to like violate

935
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: every conceivable conceivable labor law as they try to bust

936
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: all these unions. Like that means spying on pro union

937
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: Parista's firing them, closing down the stores, or denying raises

938
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: to those workers. Basically, you know, it's all intimidation. And again,

939
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: so like once it's once any you know, group of

940
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: people they decided to unionize, the next step is to

941
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: have a first contract, right is you have to ratify

942
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 1: your first contract. That's the moment when the east line

943
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: is set where you've agreed. Okay, as this is these

944
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: are this is the foundation of our agreement. These are

945
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: the Here are the wages. Here's a structure, here the benefits.

946
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: There's a structure. But unfortunately, there's no real legal obligation

947
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: for a corporation to begin talks once a store has

948
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: decided to unionize, like within a defined period of time.

949
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: I think the lodge is something of like as long

950
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: as it's in good faith quote unquote, but we all

951
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: know the corporation and got no good fucking faith. So

952
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: this allows for the funury since the goal of the

953
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: corporation is to basically never agree to a first contract.

954
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: That's like they're like, fuck, all right, well maybe they

955
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: voted unionized, but let's try and do everything we can

956
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: to make it be like you know, this shi ain't

957
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: worth it, the ship ain't worth it, the ain't worth it.

958
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: Abandon it. And there there's a rite up in Jacobin

959
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: just kind of like chronicling all this like multi pronged

960
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: issue right now with a lot of these workers unionizing

961
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: and the push from Starbucks to you know, essentially try

962
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: and kill the movement. So like, you know, the average

963
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: time it takes between voting to unionize and the first

964
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: contract is like fifteen months. That's not right. So it's

965
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: within the that time that's when a lot of ship

966
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: can they start violating you to try and be like okay,

967
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: so you want to do that. Huh here comes retaliation

968
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: straight up breaking laws. Yeah, Starbucks has only began talks

969
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: with three of those over two hundred and twenty stores

970
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: that have voted to unionize and and like again they're

971
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: now they're sending their lawyers out, like they've hired like

972
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: the fucking like you know, Michael Jordan's of union busting law,

973
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: for law firms to come through with all kinds of

974
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: like legal delaying tactics or again, like I'm saying, like

975
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: firing people, closing down their stores and doing all that. Ship. Luckily,

976
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: workers know how to fight back through the strikes. You know,

977
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: they're really there. They've i think right now they said

978
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: they've held over fifty five short term strikes. There's one

979
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: that's like I think indefinite in Boston that's been going

980
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: on since mid July. And like this is all in

981
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: response to being like, yo, you want a union bus,

982
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: watch this ship like we won't even work. And apparently

983
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: that caused around almost four thousand dollars and like lost

984
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: revenue with these like little things popping up here and there.

985
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: But the thing is for in order for that to

986
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: do that, I think more American people need to realize

987
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: that we have to support, we have to be in

988
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: solidarity with all of these workers who are trying to

989
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: unionize right now, because right now, the stakes are people

990
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: at Chipotle, fucking medieval times, you name it. There are

991
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: there are many many places that are doing this, but

992
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: the pushback from the corporations is is is massive because

993
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people saw Starbucks as like one of

994
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: those first dominoes. They have so many stores that if

995
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: people started unionizing there, that means a lot of other

996
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: companies are gonna have to be like ship Now, we

997
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: gotta do humane treatment. And you know, when you put

998
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: dominoes in the mind of a capitalists, that that that's

999
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: bad news if you're annoyed with a rationale for for

1000
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: for Vietnam, or the no idea, of course, the nooid.

1001
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: But when they when they talk about something being a domino,

1002
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: they tend to take it very seriously. And yeah, man

1003
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: it there's like a National Labor Relations Board that is

1004
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to enforce some of these laws,

1005
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, it's like the f d A,

1006
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: it's like any of the you know, things that are

1007
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: supposed to look at nutrition in our country and like

1008
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: enforced nutritional standards that like they don't have any funding.

1009
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: They're funded in the like hundreds of thousands of dollars,

1010
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: and they're going up against multibillion dollar corporations. Like that's

1011
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: how the thing has been built. Budget has not been

1012
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: increased since right you you put inflation in their running

1013
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: at like they're like a three force of their capacity

1014
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: at this point. And not to mention right like all there,

1015
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: and again, Starbucks is flooding the fucking zone with ship

1016
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: like Steve Bannon does. They're they're they're doing so many

1017
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: violations that just in like that Buffalo area where that

1018
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: first store decided to unionize, that got over two hundred

1019
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: legal violations. They gotta fucking sort of through just in

1020
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: that area alone because they're like, yeah, watching deal with that.

1021
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't got enough people to do all

1022
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: this ship, and they gotta handle like Trader Joe's, Amazon, Apple,

1023
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: ri E I, all these other like private employers that

1024
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: are like also contending with union movements inside. So because

1025
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: of that too, there's not even a mechanism that is

1026
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: even dissuading a company like starbroocks Starbucks from being like, yeah, man,

1027
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: this ship do whatever we want what they're gonna do

1028
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: with their three people. So I mean we need to

1029
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: for reil be boycotting Starbucks right like straight up, like

1030
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah, I mean that that's that's step one,

1031
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, if you you gotta,

1032
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: if you really want to, if you really want to

1033
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: support these people, there are uh there is a like

1034
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: a pledge you can sign, but again it's really about

1035
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: like if you have you know, the ability to educate

1036
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: people and ship like that and know what the stakes are.

1037
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: Is really getting engaged with that. But yeah, what were saying.

1038
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: I was saying, like I love that defense, being like, well,

1039
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: if we treat these people like humans that we can't

1040
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: be profitable. It's like all right, well your business models

1041
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: flawed then, right, I mean, isn't that how we should

1042
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: be thinking about it? I would love I would love

1043
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: for some people, so maybe you can put some political

1044
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: pressure on it. They like have like a baseline. I

1045
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: know it's not going to work. It's just like a fantasy.

1046
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: But how amazing would it be if there was like

1047
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: a national push to get the federal government involved to

1048
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: regulate some of these business practices. You know, it's insane.

1049
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: Or put a sexier number up for minimum wage, right,

1050
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: say minimum wage is twenty eight dollars an hour, Yeah,

1051
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: that's minimum or any if you're making less than that

1052
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: there's some sort of like there's some tax credit that

1053
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: you can get where they can help you get to

1054
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: that number, you know what I mean, like say, yeah,

1055
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: like I would love for there to be some kind

1056
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Speaker 1: of way for the federal government to get involved and

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Speaker 1: not just trying to shut these businesses down because we

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00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: don't want that either. We want these jobs. At the

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00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: same time, we also want them to provide a their

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Speaker 1: their basic function, which is to help these people live

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Speaker 1: a life. It's not fair that many people have to

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00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: have like at least two three jobs. Man, it's not fair. Yeah,

1063
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: it's I mean, you know then that's the constant thing, right,

1064
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: Like the government could mandate something, but the people that

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00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: are elected to do it, you know, if they're coming

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00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: from the Washington area, a lot of Bucks money, a

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00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: lot of Bucks bucks going through their coffers, and then

1068
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: it ends up muddying everything and muddies the process. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it. You know, we're we're just constantly being

1070
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: like kind of going back and forth. We're trying to

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00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: figure out like what is humane for us, what isn't

1072
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Speaker 1: And to your point, aimn Like Amazon, they at one

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Speaker 1: of their where houses they were trying to shut down

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01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: a union drive the money they spent, if they just

1075
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: invested that in the workforce, the people would have been complaining.

1076
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: But again because they see it as like, well, long term,

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Speaker 1: if I got to start paying people a lot of

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01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: money or you know, quote unquote, it eats into the

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01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: bottom line. That means there's less less money for us

1080
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Speaker 1: to come up with demonic facial recognition technology or whatever

1081
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: the funk we're trying to sell to the Pentagon. It's

1082
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, what is the counter argument, right,

1083
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: The kind of argument is if we pay people here

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Speaker 1: decent enough to survive, then those businesses will just go

1085
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Speaker 1: overseas where labor is cheaper. Right. I think there should

1086
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: be some penalties for doing stuff like that. I think

1087
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: there should just be ways for the government where it's

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01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: I see this as the government's job. It shouldn't be

1089
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Speaker 1: on the workers to have to fight throwing employers because

1090
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: it's an unfair fight. Right, what they're doing is amazing,

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01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: but that's it's not shouldn't be on them to get

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01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: the bare minimum, you know, And sadly that's but I

1093
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: think that's the reality we've been in since time immemorial

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01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: in this place. You know what, I mean, like it's

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be like the robber bearing class who

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01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: doesn't give a fuck there, you know, lighting cigars with

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Speaker 1: stacks of money, and you know it's meanwhile working people

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01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: toil and are stuck in this like really fucked up cycle.

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Speaker 1: But it's the I guess the one interesting thing or

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: the one heartening thing, is that you see how many

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01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: people are beginning to get in touch with the fact

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Speaker 1: that this is an option, that there is something they

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01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: can do. There is a way to organize again. Whether

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01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: or not that's the be all, end all solution, that's

1105
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: to be determined, but I think that's why it's really

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01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: important for many people who if you have the same feeling,

1107
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: like you look at the world and you feel it's

1108
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Speaker 1: unjust and people aren't paid right like a decent wage

1109
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: because you see, everything is about protecting the profits and

1110
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 1: shareholder value, then you've got to really, you know, really

1111
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: look at this moment right now and figure out how

1112
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: you can support them, because if this, if they're able

1113
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: to blunt this momentum, that would be mean. It took deck,

1114
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: Like you know, this is like revival and organized labor.

1115
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: It was a long time coming and a lot of

1116
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: people felt very relieved, but again they're spending a lot

1117
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: of money to ensure that it's no more than just

1118
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: like these couple hundred stores and they can, you know,

1119
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: flip the switch right back. Yeah, it's these gen zers. Man,

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna blunt that. Dude. There's no way like

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Speaker 1: the fact that there's a labor shortage. No, man, these

1122
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: these kids ain't playing I know. That's what I'm saying.

1123
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: That like their their whole ship of like the quiet quitting.

1124
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: We were talking about that on the Trends episode the

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Speaker 1: other day of just like where they're like, yeah, my

1126
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: whole thing is like I'm not I'm not busting my

1127
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: ass more than I have to fuck that Yeah, nothing

1128
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Speaker 1: like but why would Yeah, but I was like indoctrinated

1129
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: with the idea like you do that to show your

1130
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: value to them, and then maybe they will give you

1131
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: a little lick of a nutrient bar right to sustain

1132
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: your life. Then they treat you in humanely and then

1133
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: you work even harder. Yeah, And I think that's the

1134
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: thing is like slowly rationally taking that ship out of

1135
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: your head. Because again, we still look at this relationship

1136
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: between employer and employee have been like, oh my god,

1137
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: thank you so much for even giving me a job. Yeah. Yeah,

1138
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: we're just happy to be in the room when that's

1139
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: just not even okay. You know, my cousin just quit

1140
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Speaker 1: his job. He used to work at a pharmacy, and

1141
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: we were all like proud of him, you know, I

1142
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: mean for being a pharmacist or for quitting his job.

1143
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: I was proud of him for getting a job in pharmacy.

1144
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: You got I got it because before that he was

1145
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: doing like weird. You know, I was working at McDonald's

1146
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: for a while and nothing, there's anything wrong with it.

1147
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: We just he had a college degree, so we were like,

1148
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: you should be doing something. We wanted him to think

1149
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: about a career, you know, but for him, again, nothing

1150
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: wrong with a career McDonald's either. I'm not saying that.

1151
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we we're putting pressure on him to

1152
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: to get a job in pharmacy. What do you think

1153
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: that's healthy or not? I don't know, but that's what

1154
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: we did. And when he didn't get a job in pharmacy,

1155
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: he was like, funk, this man, we have to like

1156
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: show up and they say if we show up like

1157
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: three minutes late, like three times in a row. That's

1158
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: three strikes and were fired. And so he just stopped

1159
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: going and he was like, funk this. I quit. And

1160
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: I was like confused. I was like, what the hell

1161
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: is wrong with you? Man? Like you need to you

1162
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: need to be disciplined. You gotta if they need to

1163
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: show up three minutes, you got to show up. And

1164
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: he was like nah. And he moved to South Carolina

1165
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: and he just had got a bunch of roommates and

1166
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: he's he got another job doing something else and he's

1167
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: I've seen him on Instagram. He's living his life. And

1168
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, fun, man, I want to do that for him. Yeah,

1169
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's like he just went, he just like

1170
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: left the country twice. You still let him know that

1171
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: he brought shame on the family, right, Still still make

1172
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: sure you let him know like that he fucked up.

1173
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: But it's coming out of a place of jealousy. But

1174
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: you're not playing man. They are connected to each other

1175
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: into their own personal lives and well beings and ways

1176
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: that I just don't even understand. And you know, like

1177
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: they I hate to general I'm just keep talking about

1178
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: my cousin. He understands that life is bigger than money,

1179
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: and life is bigger than housing, and all he wants

1180
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: to do is like travel, And so he got this

1181
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: raggedy ASCAR and he's just driving from place to place

1182
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: doing like you know, I think he does, like tutoring online,

1183
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: doing like just a couple of jobs here and there,

1184
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: just to pay for gas and for the minimum foods,

1185
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: and he's happy as hell. Yeah, I'm thinking over here

1186
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: is like, oh what about your four oh one k?

1187
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: What about retirement? What about all this? You know, And

1188
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: it's not even on his mind. And I feel like

1189
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: a lot of Gen's ears are like that. So these

1190
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: corporations are there, they might think that they might have

1191
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: the upper hand, but I don't know if that's true. Man,

1192
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: if I could just get five minutes to talk to

1193
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: him about all the good things that Wall Street and

1194
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: the four oh one K and all that should have done,

1195
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: oh man. But yeah, I mean it's just shows like right,

1196
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: like every generation, right, we look at our parents and

1197
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: go trying doing that, you know what I mean. That's

1198
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: just that's just the way life works. Like you're like

1199
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: that is too much, right, Like what y'all were doing?

1200
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: Hell no, And I think that's why people obviously be

1201
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: in to you know, like we'd were, We're happier, obviously

1202
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: technologically our lives are easier. But I'm sure with every

1203
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: subsequent generation they look at something that is normal to

1204
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: the previous generations and they're like, that is the most

1205
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: absurd shout I've ever heard of. The funk are y'all

1206
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: talking about? And I know, like me growing up, you know,

1207
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: the eighties baby, in the nineties and ship like that,

1208
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: I was very much like, yeah, man, you gotta go

1209
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: to college, get your job and doing your thing and

1210
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and life is like that and it'll

1211
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: be fair. Then I graduate when the recession hits and

1212
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this is none of this ship makes sense.

1213
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: But I'm still like using this like mindset of the

1214
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, worker like in America ship, and I'm like,

1215
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: it took me on a wild journey to the point

1216
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: where I'm like, maybe I just want to be creative.

1217
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: And that's where I landed. My parents didn't even spend

1218
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: thirty percent of their annual budget on avocado toast. You

1219
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: believe that what I'm like, what is wrong with you?

1220
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: Such a pleasure having you? As always? You know, this

1221
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: is so much fun. Man, Where can people find you?

1222
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff? Well, they could find

1223
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: me on the block. I brought a market in Ork,

1224
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: New Jersey anytime and he plays. But you can also

1225
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Speaker 1: find me online on on Twitter. I'm at aman dot

1226
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Speaker 1: com spelled out d O T C O M. My

1227
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: first name is hard to spell. But if you just

1228
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Speaker 1: Google it and put slate, I'm sure you will find it.

1229
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Speaker 1: But yeah, say hello, reach out you can. You can

1230
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: also send me comments judging me for being an asshole

1231
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: older cousin, but you know that's welcome to Yeah, hit

1232
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Speaker 1: me up if you want to box ps five box

1233
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Speaker 1: full of rocks. And is there a tweet or some

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah,

1235
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: I was scrambling. I was scrambling while we were talking,

1236
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: trying to find a funny one, and I think I did.

1237
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Speaker 1: I think I did. Hold up, Let me let me fine,

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Speaker 1: hold on, let me look for one real quick. I

1239
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Speaker 1: he real Chief says. Imagine in while putting on an outfit,

1240
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: you find a mask in your pocket and then you

1241
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: say to yourself, what do your that was? And you smile.

1242
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: Then you put on your gas mask, loads your shotguns

1243
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: and go kill some zombies on the way to go

1244
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: get some milk at the grocery store. Ship Those are

1245
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: the good old days. What if this is as good

1246
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: as it gets? Miles, where can people find you? What

1247
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: is the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me at Miles

1248
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. Check out the latest

1249
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: episode of Miles and Jack got mad Boosties. It was

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Speaker 1: a great one. Also, come check me out on four

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Speaker 1: fiance if you like fiance and you know A one

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Speaker 1: eight If you in the valley or you in l

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Speaker 1: a catch me live. I'm doing a live show with

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Speaker 1: the eight one eights and Heartbreak podcast this Saturday, August.

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Speaker 1: Hit me up or you know, check check my bios

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Speaker 1: or their bios for that information to come check. Battles

1257
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Speaker 1: gonna be fun. Let's see a tweet that I like.

1258
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Speaker 1: First one is from um Sam Salisbury at Samuel Salisbury tweeted,

1259
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Speaker 1: oh the Sopranos cut to black at the end when

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 1: you watched it, that's weird. Mine into it, Tony Soprano

1261
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Speaker 1: congratulating me personally for understanding the show better than anyone

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Speaker 1: else did. And then Sarah Dutcher, it's at it's Sarah

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Speaker 1: Dutcher tweeted, first draft of email please fuck all the

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Speaker 1: way off email sent. I apologize for any confusion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of switch it up. Sometimes you've been there.

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Speaker 1: You've been there. Eddie Peppertone tweeted, you've hit Boden, You've

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Speaker 1: tried pilates. You joined a book club, you joined a

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Speaker 1: hate group. You micro dosed LSD, you took cold plunges,

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Speaker 1: you read Truman Capodis in cold Blood. You cut out sugar.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it time you drove a Ford forward? You'll be

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Speaker 1: dead soon. It's pretty good. It's pretty good that coffee.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were

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Speaker 1: off the information that we talked about today's episode, as

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Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy? I think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy this track from the Shaolin afro Knots.

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Speaker 1: This is a group of very, very very talented musicians.

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Speaker 1: I think they improvise a like a lot of their songs,

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Speaker 1: but I think maybe they start off improvising and then,

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Speaker 1: you know, sort of whittle down the tracks from there.

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Speaker 1: But they are man, it's just got good. You know.

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Speaker 1: If you like jazz, you like afrobe, do you like

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Speaker 1: people who are just killing on their instruments? Uh, this

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Speaker 1: is a great track. It's called kill him on Jarro

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Speaker 1: from the Shallon Afro Knots. Just a mild mash up

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Speaker 1: right there, but yeah, check this one out kill Himan

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Speaker 1: Are Yeah, that sounds very cool. Well. The Daily zeygeis

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Speaker 1: do it for us this morning when we're back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will

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Speaker 1: talk to you all of them by bye.