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Speaker 1: Chad Millman all of the odds provided by DraftKings. Now
Speaker 1: at the very end, we're going to do about five
Speaker 1: minutes on Michigan Ohio State. So I want you to
Speaker 1: stick around for that Sharper square where I bring in Chad.
Speaker 1: I have feelings about games, and he tells me if
Speaker 1: I'm right or wrong. I don't have a vibe for
Speaker 1: any games this week. I think I like Detroit a lot,
Speaker 1: I like Arizona. I think I would take the command
Speaker 1: The point even though I think Dallas will win. Twelve
Speaker 1: points is a ton I don't feel.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm glad that I don't do a blazing
Speaker 1: five on Thanksgiving. I said last week, I thought I
Speaker 1: really like the numbers. This week I don't, And so
Speaker 1: off of four in one week, I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do a blazing five on on You know,
Speaker 1: short rest underdogs often do very well on Thanksgiving. Like
Speaker 1: I think Dallas is going to beat the Commanders twelve
Speaker 1: twelve and a half points, I can't go there. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring in Chad for some thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: I think it's just one of the best four day
Speaker 1: periods of the year. Right now, I'm thankful for that that.
Speaker 1: You know, we're two thirds through the season, and I
Speaker 1: think if you look up and around, take out Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow's injury, he's out for the season. I think most
Speaker 1: of the teams we thought would be in this space
Speaker 1: are I didn't have the Jets as a playoff team
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. I certainly didn't with Zach Wilson. About
Speaker 1: the only team I feel I've missed on, I thought
Speaker 1: Seattle would be better than this. They have really regressed
Speaker 1: in the last three weeks.
Speaker 2: Really regressed.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is better than I thought, although if you've listened
Speaker 1: to me for years, you know how much respect I
Speaker 1: have for Harbaugh, the owner the GM, Lamar Jackson. But
Speaker 1: I don't think it's been a wildly surprising year. Buffalo, Miami, Philadelphia, Dallas,
Speaker 1: those felt like teams that would be the top of
Speaker 1: their division. San Francisco, a Detroit feel like teams New
Speaker 1: Orleans would be at the top of their division, Kansas
Speaker 1: City top of their division. Now, the Chargers are not
Speaker 1: as good as I thought. I thought they were a
Speaker 1: playoff team, and my guest today is they won't be.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear Chad's thoughts on the Ravens Chargers.
Speaker 1: But I think by and large all of us feel
Speaker 1: this season's turned out largely like we think. Again, I
Speaker 1: don't think Seattle has delivered as much as I thought
Speaker 1: they would. Baltimore's better than I thought they would, but
Speaker 1: I didn't buy into the Jets. I think the league's
Speaker 1: getting easier to predict on a wide level. Take the
Speaker 1: best quarterback if he has a competent coach week to week.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 1: So a Thanksgiving edition Sharper Square at the end. Some
Speaker 1: thoughts on Michigan Ohio State. Let's bring in Chad Milman,
Speaker 1: the CEO of the Action Network. All odds provided again
Speaker 1: by DraftKings. All Right, very good Week four and one.
Speaker 1: Sharper Square. Chad Millman, CEO, Action Network, All odds provided
Speaker 1: by DraftKings. So after you know, a clunky start, a
Speaker 1: lot of turbulence, first two weeks have actually been you know,
Speaker 1: kind of break even or a winning week for a
Speaker 1: couple months. My theory is the gap between really good
Speaker 1: quarterback play and bad quarterback play is wider than ever,
Speaker 1: which makes predicting the NFL on a macro level preseason predictions.
Speaker 1: I'm like eleven or fourteen teams. I feel really good.
Speaker 1: The Burrough injury hurts my Bengals prediction, but so this
Speaker 1: weekend I'm gonna go back and lean again, regardless of
Speaker 1: the lines and the sut I believe in which this
Speaker 1: gap is getting worse, and now offensive lines are beat up,
Speaker 1: so the better quarterbacks have the ability to overcome a
Speaker 1: little bit of that. The bad ones don't at all.
Speaker 2: So here we go.
Speaker 1: I know the numbers bad, but Lions minus seven and
Speaker 1: a half against the Packers. The Chargers lost that game.
Speaker 1: Green Bay didn't win it. Austin Eckler fumbling in your
Speaker 1: luck ratings. Green Bay had to be up there. Detroit
Speaker 1: the perfect. Sean Payton told me the best team to
Speaker 1: coach you win and play like crap. Detroit won and
Speaker 1: played like crap. I know the hooks bad news. There
Speaker 1: is a massive gap between these two teams. Packers also
Speaker 1: beat up. I'd swallow it. I think the Lins blow
Speaker 1: out the Packers.
Speaker 2: Sharper square starts are totally with you on this one.
Speaker 2: And what a lot of times what wise guys look
Speaker 2: at is how does a quarterback bounce back? After making
Speaker 2: horrible throws and bad decisions. What did we see from
Speaker 2: Jared Goff three picks? They were out of that game
Speaker 2: seventeen points in the final four minutes twenty seconds. He
Speaker 2: was laser focused. The wise guys are all over the
Speaker 2: Lions here. Also, there are a lot of trends that
Speaker 2: will support backing the big underdog on Thanksgiving Day. And
Speaker 2: one more thing that adds to your idea of Look,
Speaker 2: they've got a great offensive line, they've got a great quarterback,
Speaker 2: they've got really good edge players, really good running backs.
Speaker 2: They are a better team, they're a better coach team.
Speaker 2: But also when you're getting on the short rest, you
Speaker 2: want to go with a team that has more talent.
Speaker 2: We even see it happening on these Thursday games, right,
Speaker 2: You would normally see a Thursday game, you'd see if
Speaker 2: there's a bad line, the underdogs getting a lot of action.
Speaker 2: You don't you see the favorites getting the action. So
Speaker 2: this is a little bit like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is my second favorite pick of the week,
Speaker 1: and I like the Colts minus two and a half
Speaker 1: hosting the Bucks, so really smart offensive coaches off a bye. Now,
Speaker 1: I took Philly over Kansas City because both coaches offensive
Speaker 1: and Sirianni's now four and zero off of Buye, So
Speaker 1: I thought it muted some of the advantage. But I
Speaker 1: get a really sharp offensive coach off of by against
Speaker 1: the defensive coach no buye, Todd Bowles. I thought it
Speaker 1: was one of my stronger plays. I'm going to take
Speaker 1: the Colts minus two and a half at home rested,
Speaker 1: reasonably healthy.
Speaker 2: Sharper Square, no consensus. The early reporting I've heard is
Speaker 2: that wise guys like the Bucks that they've been playing
Speaker 2: better than people are giving them credit for that. Baker
Speaker 2: has been keeping his team in game a lot of times.
Speaker 2: If you look at some of these games, even last
Speaker 2: week against San Francisco, they were a player or two
Speaker 2: away from covering. You look earlier in the year they
Speaker 2: were playing the Eagles, they were six point dogs. They
Speaker 2: were a couple of Mike Evans drops away from covering.
Speaker 2: Like this is a team that has consistently been hanging
Speaker 2: around so and that's with good teams. So now if
Speaker 2: they're going to be playing a mediocre to a bad
Speaker 2: team whose defense is not very good, who are still
Speaker 2: playing Gardner Minshew, It's an odd thing to be backing
Speaker 2: the Colts as a favorite with Gardner Minshew, I feel
Speaker 2: like you are leaning a little bit too much into
Speaker 2: the new coach theme and not necessarily the players on
Speaker 2: the field theme.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Arizona minus one hosting the Rams. So
Speaker 1: it's one thing to play the Rams when Cooper cup
Speaker 1: is hurt in the game, another thing preparing when you're
Speaker 1: not going to face him and you know it. Poka
Speaker 1: NiCoT is a great story, but he doesn't separate. They
Speaker 1: don't have a separate rating receiver. He's a zone beater.
Speaker 1: In the end, Rams are still a rebuilding roster. Arizona
Speaker 1: beat Atlanta tough out played really well at times. Against Houston,
Speaker 1: they're at home. The Rams were completely outplayed for three quarters.
Speaker 1: Seattle just can't get stops on third down. Arizona will
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Arizona Kyler Murray at home sharper score.
Speaker 2: So it's a little sharp. And what I mean by
Speaker 2: that is the wise guys started playing Arizona when they
Speaker 2: were underdogs at home. They've been really impressed with Kyler
Speaker 2: Murray in the two games he's been back, especially last week.
Speaker 2: He kept them in that game. They covered that game
Speaker 2: at five and a half, which was a big number.
Speaker 2: The wise guys started betting early in the week on
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray against the Texans. So now you're looking at
Speaker 2: a game in which Kyler Murray and the Cardinals are
Speaker 2: now favorites. Right, So if you think the Cardinals are
Speaker 2: going to win, you're still going to be on the
Speaker 2: right side because you're betting the minus one. I will
Speaker 2: tell you that historically the trend is team flips from
Speaker 2: being an underdog to being a favorite. The numbers work
Speaker 2: against them. So what you really need to be thinking
Speaker 2: about is why didn't I get this number a little
Speaker 2: bit earlier because you would have liked it more at
Speaker 2: plus one. I get you got to like play the
Speaker 2: lines that are in front of you right now, but
Speaker 2: there's a lot of games on the board to play
Speaker 2: where you're not trying to buck some trends.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Saints plus one at the Falcons
Speaker 1: off of Bye. I think they have a much better roster.
Speaker 1: I think there's a little turmoil inside of Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: think Arthur Smith is smart, but he's outspoken, blunt. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure the team loves him. I think this is
Speaker 1: a experienced quarterback better roster off of by older team
Speaker 1: in spots getting a little healthy. Younger teams don't need
Speaker 1: that buy when they're playing well, they want to play
Speaker 1: the next week. Older teams always appreciate time off. I
Speaker 1: think I take the Saints as a one point dog
Speaker 1: Sharper square.
Speaker 2: It's like you're trying to pick the corner TV games.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, I'm picking what I like.
Speaker 2: Well, look, I think New Orleans is the right side.
Speaker 2: I agree Desmond Ritter is not an NFL caliber quarterback.
Speaker 2: They have not been using Jean Robinson in a way
Speaker 2: that anyone thought they would. I mean, this was a
Speaker 2: guy that everyone expected to be a runaway for Offensive
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: And don't you think the guys in the locker room
Speaker 1: are wondering why they're not using him. He's obviously a
Speaker 1: huge house.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's you have to be thinking if you're a
Speaker 2: player in the Falcons right now. Wait a second. Arthur
Speaker 2: Smith was a genius when we were using Corderyl Patterson.
Speaker 2: But we've got a talent who might be once in
Speaker 2: a generation, and we can't figure out how to get
Speaker 2: this guy in space and make him the perfect weapon
Speaker 2: for everything. We want to do when we don't have
Speaker 2: a quarterback who can really throw the ball downfield. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Saints are the right side here because you're getting
Speaker 2: them off of by they're older. You know. The challenge
Speaker 2: here is that Derek Carr has been terrible in the
Speaker 2: red zone, and the reason the Saints have gotten better
Speaker 2: in the red zone and they started to turn their
Speaker 2: season around is because of taste's hell. I will also
Speaker 2: tell you Dennis Allen, the past twenty years one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty something coaches in the NFL, he is one
Speaker 2: of the least profitable against the spread in any capacity.
Speaker 2: So this is kind of a game where if you
Speaker 2: like it, you're still playing with fire.
Speaker 1: All right, Generally I would take the Hook Chargers getting
Speaker 1: three and a half at home, but I've been saying
Speaker 1: this for two months. I think the Ravens are probably
Speaker 1: the most complete team in the league. Mark Andrews won't play,
Speaker 1: but the Chargers defense made Jordan.
Speaker 2: Love look special.
Speaker 1: It's a bad defense. I know, it's the Hook. I'm
Speaker 1: there is no home field advantage for the Chargers. It
Speaker 1: does not exist. I think the Ravens could blow him out.
Speaker 2: Sharper score early square the Ravens have not been the
Speaker 2: side for the wise guys. This week, the number open
Speaker 2: at four and a half got beat down to four.
Speaker 2: Now it's down to three and a half. Look the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Nobody believes in Brandon Staley. We have said it all year.
Speaker 2: We don't think he's a very good coach. The wise
Speaker 2: guys consistently bet against him when he's a favorite. When
Speaker 2: he's an underdog and there's there at home, it's a
Speaker 2: different scenario. And their weapons on offense are just so good.
Speaker 2: And you talk about luck, right, what did the Packers
Speaker 2: have last week? They also had Keenan Allen dropping a
Speaker 2: third down catch near the goal line that would have
Speaker 2: put them in first in goal. He dropped a touchdown pass.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of sort of inconsistencies in the
Speaker 2: way games normally play out that helped the Packers win
Speaker 2: that game, in addition to the Chargers defense just being terrible.
Speaker 2: So the wise guys like the Chargers here with the
Speaker 2: hook because they're dogs and it's the only get right
Speaker 2: spot they're going to find.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Buffalo minus three against Philadelphia. Here's
Speaker 1: the reason why short week just played Kansas City in
Speaker 1: a rematch of the Super Bowl the following week. For Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: it's the San Francisco forty nine ers, a bit of
Speaker 1: a tweener game. The world now is selling all Buffalo stock.
Speaker 1: But if you watch them against the Jets, they were
Speaker 1: more creative, they use more motion. Clearly, Ken Dorsey, right,
Speaker 1: that was seen as a shortcoming within the staff. Buffalo
Speaker 1: minus three they win. It shocks a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But this is a brutal, brutal spot for Philadelphia, the
Speaker 1: classic sandwich game. Bills plus three sharper square.
Speaker 2: Look, it's totally sharp and thank god you brought it up,
Speaker 2: because when we got to the segment where I'm trying
Speaker 2: to convince you of games, I was going to be like,
Speaker 2: how are you not taking Buffalo totally the sharp side.
Speaker 2: The number was at three and a half. It got
Speaker 2: that down to three. You mentioned luck rankings before, right,
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles are one of the three luckiest teams
Speaker 2: in the NFL this year. The Buffalo Bills are one
Speaker 2: of the three most unlucky teams in the NFL this year.
Speaker 2: There is a massive gap. Just look at a couple
Speaker 2: of games that have happened the past few weeks. Right,
Speaker 2: the Eagles what they did on Monday Night Football. They
Speaker 2: won the game because Travis Kelce fumbled a luck play
Speaker 2: and because a player dropped a touchdown pass a luck play.
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills, how do they lose to the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2: They had twelve men on a field on the field
Speaker 2: for a field goal that the Broncos missed. They got
Speaker 2: to do it again. They lost. How do they lose
Speaker 2: to the Patriots? Mac Jones driving down the field? A
Speaker 2: couple of sporadic, inconsistent plays that factors into it. Right, So, yes,
Speaker 2: the wise guys are on the Bills in this spot.
Speaker 2: It's a good spot for them to get healthy. One
Speaker 2: of the things that you have to consider, and we
Speaker 2: started to see it a little bit this past week.
Speaker 2: The Bills traded for Rasoul Douglas at the trade deadline
Speaker 2: in October thirty. First, the Bills started doing horribly this
Speaker 2: year and going on their roller coaster ride of inconsistency
Speaker 2: when they lost to Davius White against Miami in early October.
Speaker 2: Then they lost Matt Malono the next week in a
Speaker 2: loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars in London. Right, so, the
Speaker 2: defense has been struggling because they don't have any playmakers.
Speaker 2: They traded for Rasoulo Douglas. Last week was his first,
Speaker 2: was his third game, his first big game. Two picks,
Speaker 2: one fumble, recovery, and he started to look like the
Speaker 2: playmaker of the Bill's need in the secondary. When you
Speaker 2: are going against Devonte Smith, when you're going against aj Brown,
Speaker 2: you're going to need someone who is physical, who can
Speaker 2: play on those receivers and make plays in the secondary.
Speaker 2: So that's one thing that I think could be an
Speaker 2: X factor in this game.
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Speaker 1: DAK has not been a great home favorite during Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I'd take Commanders plus twelve and a half. It's a
Speaker 1: division rivalry game. Both are you know we know who
Speaker 1: the better team is. That's an egregiously high number. I
Speaker 1: think Sam Hall. If you look at who the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have beaten, Giants, Jets, Rams, when Stafford got hurt, Carolina,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of bad quarterbacks. I don't think Sam
Speaker 1: Hall's bad. I think he deserves another year with an
Speaker 1: off minded coach. I think Sam Howl's actually okay in spots.
Speaker 1: I watch them against Philadelphia. He can make all the
Speaker 1: big boy throws. I watch them against Denver. He can
Speaker 1: make all the big boy throws. I think this is
Speaker 1: actually a pretty competitive game. I take the twelve and
Speaker 1: a half Sharper score totally sharp.
Speaker 2: When you're talking about division matchups like this, the road
Speaker 2: team that is the underdog has a fifty three percent
Speaker 2: cover rate the past five years. So that's on the
Speaker 2: edge of where you want to be. But then you
Speaker 2: put in the factor that it's such a big number
Speaker 2: in a division game. That raises the factors a little
Speaker 2: bit more. There's a lot of things going your way
Speaker 2: when you want to bet on the Commanders here. Dak
Speaker 2: not being a good quarterback against the spread on Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: is another big factor. There is some hesitancy, like this
Speaker 2: line was at eleven. You would have thought professional betters
Speaker 2: would have hammered this line at eleven. Over the last
Speaker 2: twenty four to thirty six hours, it's going up twelve
Speaker 2: and a half. It's trending towards thirteen. You're going to
Speaker 2: see the buyback. Wise, guys want to bet on the
Speaker 2: Commanders at this bigger number, but it is It is
Speaker 2: not as much of a consensus as you would think.
Speaker 2: But I'm with you, all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we always do a talk me into a game.
Speaker 1: I kind of think the Jaguars got doused by the Texans.
Speaker 1: I'd probably take him here as a one and a
Speaker 1: half point favorite. Don't love it. Texans are better and consistent.
Speaker 1: They didn't play particularly well against Arizona.
Speaker 2: Still one.
Speaker 1: That's a really good trend and trait when you can
Speaker 1: play poorly and win. My guess is the Sharps are
Speaker 1: on CJ Stroud, but Jacksonville got doused two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: so I'd probably take him because I like Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Talk me into the side.
Speaker 2: Wise, guys are on CJ Shroud. They're just consistently seeing
Speaker 2: something in him that they, frankly haven't seen in Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 2: who has been inconsistent. Who missus throws? You watch CJ Shroud.
Speaker 2: There was a play last week the guy got leveled
Speaker 2: completely level Yes, had to come out for a play.
Speaker 2: The next play it was third and seventeen. They didn't
Speaker 2: even hesitate. He gets the ball, runs out of the pocket,
Speaker 2: he's got someone chasing it. He can make one throw
Speaker 2: to one guy and it's a rope to tank down
Speaker 2: on the sideline to go third and seventeen. The guy
Speaker 2: just knows how to play quarterback and has been proving it.
Speaker 2: He's preternaturally good, right, talk about MVP, as this guy
Speaker 2: was at two hundred and one before the season, now
Speaker 2: he's less than twenty to one. It's actually weird to
Speaker 2: me that this team is an underdog at home where
Speaker 2: he's five and zero against the spread, by the way,
Speaker 2: And I think that part of the problem is when
Speaker 2: you get a team like the Texans that is power
Speaker 2: rated so low when the season begins, every book maker
Speaker 2: will tell you, we can't just automatically jump the number
Speaker 2: by ten points, like they need to gradually do it, right.
Speaker 2: It's like coming off of a of bad medicine, right,
Speaker 2: Like you need to gradually come off it a little bit.
Speaker 2: So they have not fully changed their power rating on
Speaker 2: the Texans. Because it's weird to me that there are
Speaker 2: dogs at home right now and you're getting hook.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's always a game I completely miss on. I,
Speaker 1: you know, I the Denver Broncos game fascinates me, and
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that's it. I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like Denver keeps kind of winning the same way
Speaker 1: where I'm not sure that the better team. And then
Speaker 1: Russell makes a play. But then I look at their
Speaker 1: defense and it's really young and hyper aggressive. Simmons now
Speaker 1: is making instrumental plays. I already liked their top corner
Speaker 1: of Patrick's artan can Denver win again? Is that the
Speaker 1: dumpster dive I missed?
Speaker 2: Now the wise guys are on Cleveland in this game.
Speaker 2: The line open two and a half, it's been bet
Speaker 2: down to one and a half. There's a difference. And
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago we talked about Cleveland and Baltimore,
Speaker 2: and I think I try to convince you that Cleveland
Speaker 2: was the side in this game, and they ended up
Speaker 2: covering in this game. And the reason why I like
Speaker 2: Cleveland in this in that game was because their defense
Speaker 2: is offensive. And what I mean by that is they
Speaker 2: have playmakers at every single level of the defense. It's
Speaker 2: not just Miles Garrett, who might be one of the
Speaker 2: best players in the NFL right now, but it's guys
Speaker 2: like Grant Delpit who are leading that team in tackles
Speaker 2: right and he is playing in the box, but he
Speaker 2: is also playing in coverage. They make plays that put
Speaker 2: the Browns offense in a position to score. They don't
Speaker 2: always have to be feel getting a kickoff, going down
Speaker 2: seventy five hours or getting a punt from deep in
Speaker 2: their territory. The Browns defense puts them in a good position.
Speaker 2: I can't say the same about the Broncos. They're better,
Speaker 2: they're making team, they're holding teams to fewer points. Their
Speaker 2: tackling is still really bad. We saw that against Minnesota.
Speaker 2: They could not tackle anybody. And the Browns are a
Speaker 2: heavy rush team with Now and Dorian Thompson Robinson a
Speaker 2: very mobile quarterback. So the wise guys like the Browns here.
Speaker 2: The only caveat I would say is that the number
Speaker 2: is moved, and so it's becoming harder and harder to
Speaker 2: bet on it. You're essentially betting on the Browns to
Speaker 2: win at this point.
Speaker 1: Any other dumpster diving?
Speaker 2: Can I interest you in? The Las Vegas Raiders as
Speaker 2: eight and a half eight or nine, depending on where
Speaker 2: you're looking point underdogs hosting the Kansas City Chiefs. So look, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They have been virtually unbeatable, and I like
Speaker 2: the Eagles to this past week. I think we made
Speaker 2: the Eagles last week an executive decision, and the second
Speaker 2: half in games, it's almost like Andy Reid recognizes that
Speaker 2: his receivers are not playmakers, and so he's immediately playing
Speaker 2: the clock in the second half. They scored what two
Speaker 2: touchdowns in the second half. In the past five games,
Speaker 2: they had seventeen points at halftime. This past week ended
Speaker 2: the game with seventeen points. There's a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: to unpack for this team. So now you're asking in
Speaker 2: a division game for them to go on the road
Speaker 2: and beat a team in the Raiders that still has
Speaker 2: a very aggressive defense in a very good pass rush
Speaker 2: and obviously one of the best defensive ends and edge
Speaker 2: rushers in Max Crosby. So and Aidan O'Connell has shown
Speaker 2: stuff right like he's throwing the ball down field. He's
Speaker 2: not afraid, he's very active.
Speaker 1: He can make throws. He's not mobile, but he can.
Speaker 2: He can totally make throws. So it's a big number.
Speaker 2: And Patrick Mahomes, for all his success when he's favored
Speaker 2: by three or less, other than this past week when
Speaker 2: you and I decided to take the Eagles generally covers
Speaker 2: three and a half or more, he is way under
Speaker 2: five hundred against the spread. So this is a spot
Speaker 2: where you want to fade Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a smart pick. Also, Antonio
Speaker 1: Piers is fighting and that staff is fighting for seven
Speaker 1: figure contract. Yes, right, Like Mark Davis probably wants to
Speaker 1: hire this staff because he's paying Gruden and he's paying
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. He would love to get a coach on
Speaker 1: the cheap. So this knows they've got probably a sixty
Speaker 1: five thirty five seventy thirty chance to land these jobs.
Speaker 1: Just show effort. I don't even think you have to win.
Speaker 1: I think if they're consistently showing effort, I mean they
Speaker 1: overachieved last weekend. They lost. That was a good loss
Speaker 1: for an interim coach as a big dog. As a
Speaker 1: good loss, think about how about a twenty four to
Speaker 1: twenty lost Kansas City. He may get an extension right there.
Speaker 2: Think about this. Think about the Chargers who have had
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, who has underperformed the defense that he is
Speaker 2: supposed to be a specialist in. Has been terrible. He
Speaker 2: has not gotten the best out of an unbelievably talented offense.
Speaker 2: The Chargers won't fire him, probably because the Chargers are
Speaker 2: cheap and don't want to turn over the staff and
Speaker 2: have to pay two coaches at the same time. The
Speaker 2: flip side is you've got a Raiders team that is
Speaker 2: as consistently bad as the Chargers, but Mark Davis is
Speaker 2: willing to turn that staff over and pay hundreds of
Speaker 2: millions of dollars in excess coaching fees to try to
Speaker 2: find the winner. That's admirable either way, like you're getting losers,
Speaker 2: but at least one guy is willing to spend to
Speaker 2: try to find the formula to win.
Speaker 1: Okay, Michigan Ohio State twenty one straight times in this meeting.
Speaker 1: The team that has rushed for more has won, and
Speaker 1: Michigan is a better rush team. Ohio State is eight
Speaker 1: than the Big Ten rushing better in the last three
Speaker 1: to four weeks, but Michigan is the better run team.
Speaker 1: I think they have the better offensive line. They're at home.
Speaker 1: I think they have the better quarterback with CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 1: The Buck guys were blown out the last two years.
Speaker 1: I think Michigan wins. If Harball was on the sideline,
Speaker 1: I think it would be convincing. I think without him
Speaker 1: it does matter. It's closer. It's three and a half
Speaker 1: for the Buck guys, all odds provided by DraftKings. I'm
Speaker 1: interested where the Sharps would go on this, I like
Speaker 1: Michigan With Harbaugh. I think it would be like plus
Speaker 1: five plus four, and I would absolutely take Michigan. It's
Speaker 1: a stay away for me. Without Harbaugh, what are the
Speaker 1: wise guys think?
Speaker 2: Well, Michigan is the side, And think about this when
Speaker 2: you're coaching during the game as a head coach, and
Speaker 2: Chuck No used to say this all the time, right,
Speaker 2: his job is Monday to Friday, and when he's on
Speaker 2: the sideline on Sunday, it's up to the players and
Speaker 2: what they've been doing and how they've been practicing and
Speaker 2: how they are executing based on what they did and
Speaker 2: what they learn from his coaching during the week. What's
Speaker 2: Jim Harbough doing on the sidelines fourth down? Calls timeouts? Right,
Speaker 2: this is obviously a heightened example that his coaching staff
Speaker 2: is going to have to manage. But this team is
Speaker 2: in a different place mentally, like they feel aggrieved. Right
Speaker 2: remember Ryan Day getting mocked Ohio against the world when
Speaker 2: they needed a miracle to beat Notre Dame. This really
Speaker 2: does feel like to the Michigan players and the Michigan
Speaker 2: coaching staff Misschig against the world. The guy has been suspended.
Speaker 2: The guy's been suspended multiple times this year, and like
Speaker 2: they keep winning, people keep coming after them. I like
Speaker 2: Michigan here.
Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to the Action Network you Chad Millman, four
Speaker 1: days of football. Can't wait. Such a good time of
Speaker 1: the year. This is I'm not a big fan of
Speaker 1: wearing sweaters and sitting into in a hot kitchen, so
Speaker 1: I don't love Thanksgiving. But I'll say this, I think
Speaker 1: the Michigan Ohio State game may get eighteen million viewers.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a college football regular season game that
Speaker 1: felt like this. There was a Georgia Bama game a
Speaker 1: few years ago that was close. Georgia hadn't won a
Speaker 1: title yet, and we kind of felt like, yes was
Speaker 1: their team. But it's weird being on the Michigan side
Speaker 1: because if you're on the Michigan side, you are labeled
Speaker 1: as a cheater. And of course I have always been
Speaker 1: morally flexible, like all of us are, I just acknowledge it. Yes,
Speaker 1: so we we all speed. We've all written off a
Speaker 1: glass of wine that really wasn't supposed to be on
Speaker 1: our taxes. We've all we've all, you know, shoplifted major appliances.
Speaker 1: I mean those kind of things. I tend to think
Speaker 1: with Harbaugh, Like Pete Carroll at SC He's always been
Speaker 1: a push the envelope guy. And I think College Sports
Speaker 1: Bill self falls into this. Remember the remember the claims.
Speaker 1: I think Jim Beaheim, I think I think the NFL
Speaker 1: would be far more punitive and they police you more arduously.
Speaker 1: But the nc double A is this fuzzy, nebulous bureaucracy
Speaker 1: where everybody suspects their neighbor is cheating a little, So
Speaker 1: I think it it promotes pushed the envelope among staffs.
Speaker 1: So I don't view myself as a morally this is
Speaker 1: not a morally conclusive stand that I'm backing a cheater.
Speaker 1: It is a push the envelope industry on Wall Street.
Speaker 1: You don't think guys go to lunch and share information.
Speaker 1: It's called insider trading. You think Martha Stewart was the
Speaker 1: last one to really do it, of note, And I
Speaker 1: think there are industries. I remember when I worked at ESPN,
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to leave a window open for rivals
Speaker 1: to compete for contracts. So if you have the NBA,
Speaker 1: you can't renegotiate that there's a window where Fox or
Speaker 1: NBC or CBS could come in. I really think that's
Speaker 1: how it works. I really think presidents aren't going to
Speaker 1: dinner with commissioners stop and buy for cigars some cognac.
Speaker 1: So I just think there are industries. Tech is another one.
Speaker 1: You read the Steve Jobs Walter Isaacson biography. It's day
Speaker 1: to day you're pushing stuff. It's it's poker playing, it's bluffs.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a grift, and so I think
Speaker 1: college sports almost promotes it with this fuzzy bureaucracy that
Speaker 1: gives unequal punitive punishment to certain programs. It's the old
Speaker 1: tark joke. The NCAA was so mad at Kentucky they
Speaker 1: put Cleveland State on probation.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think I'm backing a cheater. I think he went
Speaker 1: over the line. Instead of going seventy eight on the freeway,
Speaker 1: it was ninety four with his middle finger out of
Speaker 1: the conference. But I'm not deeply bothered by it.
Speaker 2: So look, Colin, we've all crushed up sleeping pills, put
Speaker 2: it in our parents' food, and then used their hand
Speaker 2: to sign the will that used to be going to
Speaker 2: your sister and now it's going to you. That's totally fine.
Speaker 2: I never understood what the big deal was with this
Speaker 2: particular scandal because the saying goes, if he ain't ain't cheating,
Speaker 2: you ain't trying. Like we're going up in arms about
Speaker 2: sign stealing. Every single coach covers their mouth when they
Speaker 2: are putting the play into the game. You know why
Speaker 2: they do that because they know somebody's watching and is
Speaker 2: going to try to steal the sign.
Speaker 1: Like Also, also, everybody changes their signs and signals for
Speaker 1: big games. You know, Super Bowl, playoff games, Rose Bowl,
Speaker 1: Auburn Alabama. Those are the games you change. Ask Peyton Manning,
Speaker 1: you change the signs for those games? Now you can
Speaker 1: use them back to back if you're hosting Rutgers in Maryland. Okay,
Speaker 1: those games aren't on national TV. But the reality is
Speaker 1: these big spot games, Peyton Manning isn't doing the same
Speaker 1: signals that these guys change for playoff games, division rivalry game.
Speaker 1: When you're playing the Ravens the second time, if you're
Speaker 1: the Steelers, you're not using the same signs, same audibles.
Speaker 1: Stuff changes constantly.
Speaker 2: Collan, We've all broken into We've all broken into a
Speaker 2: colleagues email to send really inappropriate comments to your boss
Speaker 2: when you're both going for the same promotion. It's totally fine.
Speaker 2: That's what people do in the game of life, in
Speaker 2: the game of professional media, and in the game of football.
Speaker 2: You steal signs.
Speaker 1: Hoppy Thanksgiving to you, brother.
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