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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever

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Speaker 1: you are listening, I hope that you had a great weekend,

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Speaker 1: whether or not that was influenced by the Speedway Classic.

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Speaker 1: I hope that you had many many other things that

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Speaker 1: at least were better than whatever experienced a Speedway Classic was.

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Speaker 1: Can't thank you for joining us here on the Hammer

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Speaker 1: Territory Podcast, part of the Foul Territory family of podcasts

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Speaker 1: and is always it is a pleasure to be with

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Speaker 1: my podcast partner, the one and only Stephen Tolbert In

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Speaker 1: Stephen Man, we are past the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: Yay, Yeah, what's a buddy.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's been a weird feeling the last

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Speaker 3: couple of days because we kind of we've known for

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Speaker 3: a while the season was over, but we still had

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Speaker 3: the trade deadline to look forward to. We still had

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Speaker 3: the Speedway Classic thing to look forward to. Now we're

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Speaker 3: on the other side of both of those things, and

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Speaker 3: neither one of them turned out to be much to

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Speaker 3: look forward to, if we're being honest, and it really

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Speaker 3: kind of feels like this season's not over. But it

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Speaker 3: does feel like the things to be excited about are

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Speaker 3: kind of over. We're still gonna watch and we're still

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Speaker 3: gonna talk about the game, and there's a lot, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot to talk about it in terms of

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Speaker 3: getting ready for twenty twenty six. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: we're very much to the point of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: And you know, tonight's game, the Braves lost three to

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Speaker 3: one tonight to the Brewers. Watching that game, you know,

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Speaker 3: looking at how few people were in attendance, like it

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Speaker 3: really does feel like we're just now in the like

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Speaker 3: you know, the drolls of being bad in August, where

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Speaker 3: just like none of this really, you know, none of

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Speaker 3: the stuff that's happening on the field matters, and so

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have to talk about stuff not really on

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Speaker 3: the field until we get to the off season where

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Speaker 3: we can start hopefully making some improvements for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Brad and Scott did a wonderful job breaking

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Speaker 1: down the trade deadline. Of course, as many know now,

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Speaker 1: the big storyline from the Braves trade deadline is what

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Speaker 1: they didn't do versus what they actually did. They were

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Speaker 1: be around next year. But the point that I wanted

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Speaker 1: but disappointment, I feel is a fair reaction to what

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Speaker 1: the Braves did not do because when we at the

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Speaker 1: start of July's the injuries occurred to Chris Sale, and

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Speaker 1: they occurred to Spencer Swellenbach, and the offense just never

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Speaker 1: but not only that, making decisions that would allow for

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Speaker 1: six and beyond, and the draft was a good start.

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Speaker 1: The Braves used common sense a draft clear areas of need.

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Speaker 1: I felt good coming out of the draft, and I

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Speaker 1: just going to trade to Shed's salary, and that's fine,

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Speaker 1: But to me, the biggest thing of all is this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I want to start, first of all by

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Speaker 3: plugging the show that Brad and Scott did immediately the day,

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Speaker 3: as soon as the trade deadline was over at six pm,

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Speaker 3: was a really good show. If you missed it, it's

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Speaker 3: still relevant, go listen to the show. My main takeaways

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Speaker 2: I think the Braves and Alex has talked about this.

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Speaker 3: They have rules in place where they don't do player options,

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Speaker 3: but I've heard that they have a rule about dead money,

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Speaker 3: about not having any dead money on the books. And obviously,

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Speaker 3: if you're paying down the contract, that is paying the

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Speaker 3: of dead money. And quite honestly, with the seasons that

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Speaker 3: we talked about this at nauseum leading up to it,

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Speaker 3: Alex kept saying we weren't just gonna salary dump these

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Speaker 3: And so that's my theory is that is that ownership

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Speaker 3: Thing, you know that that's kind of their theory is

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Speaker 3: what's kind of the only theory that makes sense, honestly,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no reason we've talked about this spot there.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's sometimes there's scenarios where you have a

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Speaker 3: draft pick, compensation, qualifying offers. None of that existed with

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Speaker 2: I thought Brad. It was Brad.

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Speaker 3: I think it was Brad and Scott actually both made

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Speaker 2: It wasn't necessarily even about the return.

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Speaker 3: It was just to get him off the roster so

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Speaker 2: And so they didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: So now, yeah, I mean, it was just just it

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Speaker 2: I don't blame you. That's kind of where we were too.

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Speaker 3: And that's you know again, I thought the tone that

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Speaker 3: So make sure you go back and listen to that show.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that theory makes sense. You know,

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Speaker 1: when I talk, you want to talk about they don't

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Speaker 1: want to set make this very clear. I think Alex

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Speaker 1: and Thoptless has clearly done much more good than bad

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Speaker 1: when it comes to being the Braves general manager. It's

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Speaker 1: just unfortunately right now, some of his more significant misses

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Speaker 3: And listen, if they're already having money troubles, if that

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Speaker 3: Then go to a Braves game. Now, the Braves will

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Speaker 3: still draw. Okay, there's still you know, there's still kind

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Speaker 3: But when football starts, school really gets going, attendance is

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Speaker 3: they have zero, you know, flexibility to do anything to

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Speaker 3: this roster in the off season. It's still too early

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Speaker 2: To a you know, a great sign.

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Speaker 1: And of course, while there will be a sharp eye

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Speaker 1: Go for it, so, of course, Stephen, There plenty of

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Speaker 1: possible is Austin Riley regaining his form as well. Steven

436
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Speaker 1: also want to talk about the fact that there were

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Speaker 1: some notable updates when it came to the pitching side

438
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Speaker 1: of things. Chris Sale has been throwing bullpens. He could

439
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Speaker 1: be back sooner rather than later. He was also updated

440
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Speaker 1: that Renaldo Lopez actually through played catch as well. There

441
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Speaker 1: could be a possibility he could be back. I don't

442
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Speaker 1: necessarily know if that's the case. But when it comes

443
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Speaker 1: to those veteran starters who likely will be back at

444
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Speaker 1: some point this year, potentially, it's good to hear that

445
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Speaker 1: both Sale and Lopez are both at least going through

446
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Speaker 1: some baseball activities. Be interesting to see what third development

447
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Speaker 1: will be as we move forward to the rest of

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Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I put these in different camps. Sale I was

450
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Speaker 3: never really I mean, he broke a rib. It's not

451
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Speaker 3: like an arm injury where you're like, once the long

452
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Speaker 3: term prognosis, he just broke a rib. I mean, once

453
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Speaker 3: the bone heels and you know, the pain goes away,

454
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Speaker 3: he's fine. So the fact that he's progressing is good.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure he wants to get back out

456
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Speaker 3: there before the season's over. I'm sure to give the

457
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Speaker 3: Braves some clarity going into twenty twenty six to see

458
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Speaker 3: him pitch.

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Speaker 2: So him, I'm not really worried about him.

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Speaker 3: Lopez I'm worried about because you know, obviously it was

461
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Speaker 3: a shoulder. He was shut down for like three or

462
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Speaker 3: four months. Still not back to pitching. I think he's

463
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Speaker 3: just throwing. I think he's just playing catch at this point.

464
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Speaker 3: Was the update today.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the Braves owe him a decent chunk

466
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Speaker 2: of change over the next few years.

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Speaker 3: And again we've already talked about they don't have the

468
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Speaker 3: largest payroll in the world, and it's it's been getting smaller,

469
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Speaker 3: and you know, they really can't afford to have low

470
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Speaker 3: I think Lopez makes fourteen or fifteen million dollars next year,

471
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Speaker 3: Like they need him to be productive, and a productive

472
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Speaker 3: member of the rotation would be great. But even it's

473
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Speaker 3: just a productive member of the bullpen, just productive, just

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Speaker 3: helping the team win games.

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Speaker 2: And so obviously anytime you.

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Speaker 3: See a shoulder, you worry about it. We'll see how

477
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Speaker 3: he can, you know, we'll see. I don't know if

478
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Speaker 3: he's actually gonna make it all the way back this year.

479
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Speaker 3: If he's not even throwing bullpens yet, he's been out

480
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Speaker 3: for so long, I don't I would be surprised, I

481
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: guess at this point if he actually pitched in twenty

482
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Speaker 3: twenty five. But maybe we'll see how. We'll see that

483
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: they do. But that's a big storyline for twenty twenty

484
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Speaker 3: six as well, because you know, the Braves they renegotiate

485
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 3: his contract in the off season to free up some

486
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Speaker 3: money and add in an additional year on top of it,

487
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: so again they owe him a chunk of change and

488
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Speaker 3: shoulder injuries are terrifying, So that's a big storyline in

489
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Speaker 3: the off season.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But of course when it comes to pitching, names

491
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Speaker 1: Sell hopefully back this year or an auto low PiZZ

492
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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But with as much as is

493
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Speaker 1: owed to those two, you need to get production from

494
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Speaker 1: cheaper sources. And then the Braves Thopa they had that

495
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Speaker 1: as well in Spencer swelling Bock and Grant Holmes. Now

496
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Speaker 1: Spencer swelling Bock of course coming off the slight elbow fracture,

497
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Speaker 1: you know, it seems like that there's a good chance

498
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Speaker 1: that we've seen the last of Spencer Swelling Boch this

499
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Speaker 1: year because there's not really any activity from him. And

500
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Speaker 1: then of course when it comes to Grant Homes, there

501
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: also is the update that he actually is opting to

502
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Speaker 1: rehab instead of undergoing surgery right now, some interesting developments,

503
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Speaker 1: but and unfortunately not only were not going to see

504
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Speaker 1: either one the deal blackly for the rest of this season,

505
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Speaker 1: it again could be quite a while before we see

506
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Speaker 1: homes on the mountain for the Braves again.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let's be honest, this rarely ever works

508
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Speaker 3: where a guy avoids surgery. It's usually just a way

509
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Speaker 3: to prolong what is it eventually a surgery. The logic

510
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Speaker 3: behind it is if he had the surgery right now,

511
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Speaker 3: he would miss all of twenty twenty six and be

512
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Speaker 3: ready for twenty twenty seven. If he tries to rehabit

513
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Speaker 3: for a couple of months and then has to have

514
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Speaker 3: the surgery, he would be out for all of.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six and be ready for twenty twenty seven.

516
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Speaker 3: So like where it is in the calendar, it does

517
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Speaker 3: make some sense to at least try it. It's not

518
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Speaker 3: going to add any more significant, you know, miss time

519
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Speaker 3: to his schedule. He would miss all of twenty twenty

520
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Speaker 3: six and be ready for twenty twenty seven. Either way,

521
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Speaker 3: my guess is just because of how it normally goes

522
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Speaker 3: with any other picture you hear about this when they

523
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Speaker 3: try to rehabit, just you know, in a couple of months,

524
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Speaker 3: it'll be confirmed that it's still not where it needs

525
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: to be and he'll have the surgery and miss all

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I don't say that to be pessimistic. I've just we

528
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Speaker 2: this happens. You know.

529
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Speaker 3: Obviously, arm injuries like this happen all over baseball all

530
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Speaker 3: the time, and there's been a number of situations where

531
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Speaker 3: guys try this and it just usually doesn't work. So

532
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Speaker 3: maybe Grant will be the exception with the Braves injury. Look,

533
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't put much money on that. I would guess

534
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Speaker 3: that in a couple of months he'll get re examined again.

535
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Speaker 3: They'll be like, listen, you know, the best thing you

536
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Speaker 3: can do is probably just go and have the surgery

537
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Speaker 3: and miss twenty six and be back for twenty seven

538
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Speaker 3: until I hear otherwise. That's kind of the mindset I'm

539
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Speaker 3: gonna go with with Grant. As far as Grant Homes goes,

540
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Speaker 3: I don't think if you're the Braves, you can count

541
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Speaker 3: on him for anything next year, and if you do

542
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Speaker 3: get something, then you.

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Speaker 2: Know it's it's just a bonus. So it was notable

544
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Speaker 2: that he's gonna try it. We'll see if it works.

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Speaker 1: So, of course, with all these injuries that are going on,

546
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Speaker 1: especially on the pitching side, it's good to hear some

547
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Speaker 1: positive updates, but it's unfortunate to hear that there is

548
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Speaker 1: some concern on Grant Holmes potentially not being available next year,

549
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Speaker 1: spinder Swallabat being out.

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Speaker 2: For this year.

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Speaker 1: So if you're going to lose the ability to see

552
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Speaker 1: some of your more promising potential rotation pieces in the

553
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Speaker 1: present of the future, it's always a good thing to

554
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Speaker 1: see some good production from potential future parts of your rotation.

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Speaker 1: So, of course, Steven again we talk about Spencer Swollenbach

583
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: likely being out for the rest of this year, Grant

584
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Speaker 1: Holmes probably being out through the rest of next year.

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Speaker 1: Three have doesn't go well. Ag Smith Shower already is

586
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: on the shelf for next year as well. So when

587
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Speaker 1: you mentioned all those names that you felt could play

588
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Speaker 1: big roles in the brace rotation for this year and

589
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Speaker 1: beyond not being available, you hope that maybe the Braves

590
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: young depth when it comes to their pictures could step up,

591
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Speaker 1: and that, thankfully is what we have the ability to

592
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Speaker 1: talk about. Joey Wentz what in those plans, But he

593
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: has looked pretty good. I don't mean that that means

594
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be a part of the Braves feature.

595
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: It at the very least means that he makes it

596
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Speaker 1: worth the conversation. Hurst and Waldrop made a great impression

597
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: yesterday in his first twenty twenty five appearance for the Braves,

598
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Speaker 1: potentially earning him a longer look in the Majors. And

599
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Speaker 1: then you've got so many names down in the miners.

600
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Speaker 1: Nidia Frontez has bounced back after his struggles in the Majors. Jr.

601
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Speaker 1: Richie Owen Murphy's back, to name a few. The Braves

602
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: pitching deck. We talked about it a few weeks ago.

603
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: If there's one thing to look forward to, keeping up

604
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Speaker 1: with the miners and several of the Braves more intriguing

605
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: arms stepping up and being productive, that could be a

606
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Speaker 1: great development this year. I think I think we're off

607
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Speaker 1: to a good start from that perspective.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean That's the one good thing about next

609
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Speaker 3: year is that we finally have We're finally gonna have

610
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Speaker 3: a Triple A team full of like top prospect level

611
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Speaker 3: pitchers versus the last couple of years where you've just

612
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Speaker 3: had a bunch of like Darius Vines, Alan Winan's no

613
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Speaker 3: offense to Bryce Elder, but Bryce Elder type guys who

614
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: are much more just like Quad A seventh eighth kind

615
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Speaker 3: of organizational filler arms. You're actually gonna have some top prospects,

616
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Speaker 3: like some guys with real upside in your Triple A

617
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: rotation next year that you can call on to help

618
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Speaker 3: out when inevitably guys get hurt and listen with the

619
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Speaker 3: Braves with a Braves rotation, with Sale, with Lopez, with Strider.

620
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Speaker 3: I mean, there is some inherent injury risk already built

621
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Speaker 3: into the Brad's rotation. There just is add on top

622
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Speaker 3: of the fact that it doesn't matter who they have

623
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Speaker 3: in the rotation. They've had a hard time keeping them

624
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Speaker 3: healthy all season for the last four years. So who

625
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: you have in Triple A in that rotation matters quite

626
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Speaker 3: a bit, especially matters for the Braves, And like you

627
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Speaker 3: just said, they've got some They've got some top prospects,

628
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Speaker 3: some high upside, some high draft picks, like they got

629
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Speaker 3: real down there for next year, and a lot of

630
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: those guys have come back from injury and throwing well. So,

631
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, the Braves have spent so much draft capital

632
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: the last seven eight years on pitching and we really

633
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: haven't seen it come through the Miners yet. A lot

634
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: of it got hurt early on. I know, Schwellenbach came

635
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: through and Schreider came through, but other than those two guys,

636
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: we haven't really seen it like the waves come and

637
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: starting next year, we're actually going to see that where

638
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: like there are waves of really good pitching prospects in

639
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: the miners and the upper Miners ready to help in

640
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: Atlanta at a moment's notice, and so that will help

641
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: next year. That will be an improvement on where they've

642
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: been the last couple of years.

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00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you want to talk about arms that are

644
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's great to see and are kind of

645
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: taking the league by storm. You know, one of those

646
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: this year that has truly stepped up was a member

647
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Speaker 1: of the team that the Braves are facing right now,

648
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brewers, and that of course is Jacob Mazerowski.

649
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: Who unfortunately has run into a bit of an injury snag.

650
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Speaker 1: I believe he'll be out to at least mid August,

651
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Speaker 1: but there was you know, real you know hype behind

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Speaker 1: him and his performance so far this year being something

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Speaker 1: that could make him the favorite for the Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Year race in the National League. Now think in

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Speaker 1: the America League gets pretty much you know that that

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Speaker 1: whole discussions to bed Nick Kurtz obviously is going to

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Speaker 1: be the AL Rookie of the Year. But in the

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Speaker 1: National League, the Braves obviously, this probably is the one

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Speaker 1: storyline that I think most people, if they're not already

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Speaker 1: tuned into it, they're going to be as time goes on.

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Speaker 1: Drake Baldwin is and clearly deserves to be the favorite

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Speaker 1: in the National League Rookie of the race right now,

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Speaker 1: And of course there's a double meaning there for the Braves,

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Speaker 1: and only would it be great to see him win

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, but if he does, there's that

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Speaker 1: extra draft pick in what could be a very good

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six draft, where the Braves already are likely

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Speaker 1: going to have a high pick. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: with this injury to the Miz that this race is

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Speaker 1: all but wrapped up because the Brewers themselves have a

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Speaker 1: few guys who could play a part in that. Isaac Collins,

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Speaker 1: just one NL Rookie of the Month. This phrased by

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Speaker 1: no means is over. Baldwin has stayed pretty consistent. But

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Speaker 1: the thing is is that I feel like now is

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Speaker 1: really the time for Baldwin to step on the gas.

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Speaker 1: I give the Braves credit. They're playing nearly every day.

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Speaker 1: They're putting Hi in the mod of the order, They're

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Speaker 1: giving him every opportunity. Now's the time for Drake Baldwin

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Speaker 1: to step up, and if he can, that'll be another

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Speaker 1: wonderful development for this year and beyond.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah, the thing you hope doesn't happen is that

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Speaker 3: he starts getting knocked because the team isn't very good

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Speaker 3: and the Brewers have some guys that are contributing to

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Speaker 3: a team that's going to the playoffs. Mate when the division.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not Drake Baldwin's fault that the team sucks.

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Speaker 3: He's done everything you can expect of him. It is

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Speaker 3: a very good sign that Snick came out the other

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Speaker 3: day and said Baldwin's gonna play most days. I think

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Speaker 3: that's what everybody's been looking for. And listen, now it's

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Speaker 3: on Drake to go out and and you know, wrap

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Speaker 3: this reward up. He probably needs another, like really hot

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Speaker 3: streak to solidify it. I mean, he's the favorite right now,

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Speaker 3: especially like you said, with miss Rosky going out for Milwaukee, he.

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Speaker 2: Was kind of the guy that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say it was chasing Drake, but

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Speaker 3: I think had the best chance outside of him. You

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Speaker 3: kind of have to have a little buzz about your

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Speaker 3: name for Rookie of the year, you know, like you

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Speaker 3: just said, Isaac Collins just one rookie of the month.

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Speaker 3: But listen, he's a twenty eight year old outfielder from

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Speaker 3: Milwaukee that most people have never heard of before. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if he's going to be a serious contender

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Speaker 3: against Drake Baldwin, but maybe you know, you don't want

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Speaker 3: to leave it to chance. It would be lovely to

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Speaker 3: watch Drake Balwin go on a crazy streak here the

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Speaker 3: last you know, two months and just put this thing

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Speaker 3: on ice. Getting an extra draft pick, not just an

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Speaker 3: extra draft pick, but a pretty high draft pick, which

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Speaker 3: adds to your bonus pool, which is a massive part

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Speaker 3: of all of this MLB draft is very different than

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Speaker 3: other drafts. How much money you have in that bonus

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Speaker 3: pool is almost as important as the number of picks

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Speaker 3: you have, so you get more money. I looked at it.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at tankethon today. Listen, that's where we

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Speaker 3: are in the Brave season. We're kind of looking at tankethon.

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Speaker 3: The Braves I think have the second or third best

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Speaker 3: odds for the number one overall pick, So I mean

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Speaker 3: it could be a very significant draft for them next July.

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Speaker 3: And if Drake wins the Rookie of the Year, they'll

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Speaker 3: have another pick and that much more money to spend.

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Speaker 2: And so this is a big deal. This is not

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Speaker 2: just vanity. This is not just.

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Speaker 3: Wanting the Brave to win a Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 3: It's partly that, but there is real world, actual on

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Speaker 3: the field value to Drake winning this award that can

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Speaker 3: help the Braves in the future.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And the more he plays, you know, the more

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Speaker 1: he plays will what does it mean for a potential

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Speaker 1: feature of him and Sean Murphy together. There are several

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Speaker 1: frectors that can go into that. So that's why we

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Speaker 1: I know that it seems like that we talk about

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Speaker 1: this rookie of the year where you erase and Drake

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Speaker 1: Baldwin more often than many had anticipated we were this

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Speaker 1: time of year, but right now it's the major storyline,

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Speaker 1: a big it's a big deal. Yeah, that's probably the

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Speaker 1: positive yet also important storyline for the remainder of this

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Speaker 1: season for the Braves is the performance of Drake Baldwin.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in any way, shape or form meaning that

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Speaker 1: more pressure should be put on the kid. He's done

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Speaker 1: excellent and the pressure that he's already faced. But if

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Speaker 1: he can get the job done, that not only could

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Speaker 1: mean a lot for him, but also the team as well.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be quite interesting to see, certainly something we're

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Speaker 1: following as time goes on. Steven, do you have any

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Speaker 1: more for us as a wrap up this edition of

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Speaker 1: The Hammer Territory Podcast?

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Speaker 2: No, just what we I want to say. I really,

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Speaker 2: we really appreciate the support.

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Speaker 3: It's obviously been a disappointing year, and we're gonna cover

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Speaker 3: it all the way through the end no matter what happens.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get it all the way to the end season.

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Speaker 3: Then we're gonna cover the off season, and then it's

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Speaker 3: on to twenty twenty six. But the support that you

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Speaker 3: guys have showed the show has really maintained itself through

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Speaker 3: the entire year. We're just very very appreciative of that,

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Speaker 3: and we try to pay that back by being consistent,

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Speaker 3: you know, consistently putting out content that is not going

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Speaker 3: to We are still gonna put out four shows a week.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have stuff to talk about. We have the

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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year race.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of guys that are playing on

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Speaker 3: the team right now that are big storylines for twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six, So how they finished the year, Michael Harris, Ozzy,

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Speaker 3: you know, Jerks and Profar. There's a lot of storylines

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Speaker 3: that affect next year that we're gonna constantly cover. So

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Speaker 3: just a big shout out to you guys for the support,

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Speaker 3: and the content will be here just.

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Speaker 1: Like normal, absolutely, and of course we can't thank you

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Speaker 1: terms of listening, but also watching you know, YouTube, you know, Spotify, Apple,

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Speaker 2: You have been.

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Speaker 1: Supportive every step of the way. Can't thank you enough

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Speaker 1: and certainly look forward to continuing that content, even if

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Speaker 1: on the field it may not be the best of results.

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Speaker 1: You're always gonna get consistent results here on the Hammer

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