Speaker 1: Now, the Shotgun Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of setup work that we
Speaker 1: have to do in order to make a tournament work.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how
Speaker 1: we do a shotgun start here. And alright, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: gentle mans, darn your.
Speaker 2: Greetings, and welcome to a Friday edition of The Shotgun Start.
Speaker 2: Late night Friday edition of the Shotgun Start. It is
Speaker 2: August seventh, Andy, how are we doing?
Speaker 1: Brendan doing awesome? What? What a Friday of golf? Who
Speaker 1: would have expected an MLV surge? Who would have expected
Speaker 1: this podcast? Would have expected?
Speaker 2: We've been MLV, you know, apologists fans for a long time. Here,
Speaker 2: we've been trying to tell the stories, sing the song
Speaker 2: of miche Lorenzo Vira, And here he is. It doesn't
Speaker 2: surprise me one bit. What does surprise me? You see
Speaker 2: his caddy? Who's caddy is pepsi? How is he allowed
Speaker 2: on the crowns? He shouldn't even I'm surprised they even
Speaker 2: let him in the gates. Do you have near assaulted people?
Speaker 2: He's a costing citizens, a costing Spaniards. Last time he
Speaker 2: was at this event, Pepsi, little Pepsi boy is allowed
Speaker 2: in there. He's gonna carry the bag for the PGA
Speaker 2: Championship winner at Harding Park.
Speaker 1: It might have endeared Pepsi to MLV. Is his disdain
Speaker 1: for Spaniards.
Speaker 2: How about Miche Lorenzo Vira, He's what do He finished
Speaker 2: sixth under, so he's two shots back. There ended up
Speaker 2: being a glut of guys at six under for a
Speaker 2: while there. MLV was pushing How Tom He's.
Speaker 1: Couldn't get a putt to drop down the stretch. I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna thought he was going to tie
Speaker 1: the lead there.
Speaker 2: This is the benefit of we got Tiger. He's still
Speaker 2: putting on the green, his darkness falls. But benefit of
Speaker 2: having ESPN in this situation. And it's ten twenty eastern
Speaker 2: on a Friday night, and Ta Ronaldi is just fishing,
Speaker 2: throwing multiple lines chum in the waters. Has Miche Lorenzo
Speaker 2: Vira in studio trying to get him to tell the
Speaker 2: story about partying with women, drugs, tax issues like just
Speaker 2: this is not your everyday golf broadcast, just trying to
Speaker 2: get Michael Lorenzo Verra. Now, Mike kept it pretty, he
Speaker 2: kept it probably pretty PG for his whatever went on
Speaker 2: when he went into big debt. But I love that
Speaker 2: they were trying to get him to tell stories.
Speaker 1: Hey, I mean the MLV story time with MLV would
Speaker 1: be an incredible one. I think, you know, he's just
Speaker 1: such a character, such a colorful character and loved by
Speaker 1: players on the euro tour. What's the quote he's like,
Speaker 1: I went four hundred thousand dollars into debt because I
Speaker 1: made bad decisions and partying. So he he wrote a
Speaker 1: player blog for the European tour and it's on that
Speaker 1: so if you search Mike Lorenzo vera EE player blog.
Speaker 1: I almost finished last on the Challenge Tour in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: and I had almost four hundred euro of debt in
Speaker 1: France because of bad decisions, partying and being very generous
Speaker 1: to everybody around me. I had had one good year
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight when I went around three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty euro, but after taxes and expenses, there's
Speaker 1: not much left, and trust me, I spent it really badly.
Speaker 1: I never looked at my bank balance never, and one
Speaker 1: day the card stopped working and I called the banks,
Speaker 1: shouting at them, why isn't it working and they say, well,
Speaker 1: because you've got no money. Then I was trying to
Speaker 1: make cuts and try and bring the cash back in.
Speaker 1: But it was ridiculous. I messed up my taxes as well.
Speaker 1: Believe me, I've made all the mistakes. Unbelievable story.
Speaker 2: He didn't go into that detail, but I appreciate Rinaldi
Speaker 2: trying to fish it out of him. And that's part
Speaker 2: of why we love Michael Lorenzo Vera. He's got a
Speaker 2: little color, He's a little character to him. He's not
Speaker 2: some white bread, you know, Robot.
Speaker 1: So I love, generally love the French players like Victor
Speaker 1: Dubuis Son.
Speaker 2: Thomas Levey was great in his time. Yeah, now he
Speaker 2: does the broadcasting, you Douba Son is your mercurial.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he and you.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know that he loves it, loves the spotlight,
Speaker 2: maybe in the way some of the others do.
Speaker 1: I get. I guess some more MLF stuff we could
Speaker 1: save it for later in the show. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: other sand that bunker. By the way, I don't know
Speaker 1: that Damon alluding to that Damon sculled out of that
Speaker 1: kind of too. Eighteen. Duvall was asking about it. How good?
Speaker 1: How good is Daval and SVP?
Speaker 2: They're good, They're good, I think Deval, I don't know
Speaker 2: that Daval he's good.
Speaker 1: He's good at what he does.
Speaker 2: I don't think like he's at his He's ripten a
Speaker 2: lot better calling golf than I think doing the studio
Speaker 2: show or doing like the live front desk show.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Like he's really good getting in and out, popping in
Speaker 2: and out, Like, isn't that where he excels? Is he
Speaker 2: was number one player in the world. He's really good
Speaker 2: at telling you what's hard, what's what's a great shot
Speaker 2: and why? And uh, he's really good at that. I
Speaker 2: think he's much better at this than he is. And
Speaker 2: that's not to say he's bad at the other one,
Speaker 2: but he's he's a lot better I think at this.
Speaker 1: He says. SVP asked him something, Duvall I can't remember
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. But then SVP goes, well, and
Speaker 1: you would know because you're the you were number one
Speaker 1: player in the world, And like it was like a
Speaker 1: very it was a very good piece of insight. Towards
Speaker 1: the end of the telecast, and I thought to.
Speaker 2: Myself, talk about it, like fel though. Yeah, like he
Speaker 2: does these very yeah.
Speaker 1: But the thing with Feldos he never gives us anything
Speaker 1: like that that would infer that he was the best
Speaker 1: player in the world. Sure, sure, he actually gives insight.
Speaker 2: Well, my mother was making fruitcakes. We would That's the
Speaker 2: face I would make too, you know, that's what he says. Okay,
Speaker 2: how Ton Lee is your leader? Eight under sixty seven?
Speaker 2: She's sixty five. Then, like the story of the day
Speaker 2: becomes him just loitering around the range. Apparently people are
Speaker 2: just having a field day with it. He did go
Speaker 2: home though he lived, he's renting a house close and
Speaker 2: came back so that he.
Speaker 1: Did practice for like three straight hours though at least four.
Speaker 1: I mean, what Day said was crazy. He was at
Speaker 1: the Punny Green. I don't know if he had gone
Speaker 1: home in between. Do you think he went home in
Speaker 1: between them? I don't know. He had to have if
Speaker 1: that's when he went out. But he was there forever?
Speaker 1: Why why was he there? I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: get it. He played, he played great, but probably one
Speaker 1: of the best rounds of his career.
Speaker 2: Well, this is just how maybe he operates, and it's
Speaker 2: foreign to the day and nuts of the world that
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe this is what puts him in
Speaker 2: the comfort zone. The problem is he's got all day
Speaker 2: tomorrow too, Like, what's he going to do all day?
Speaker 2: If he just was hitting balls at the he was
Speaker 2: a harding park for fifteen hours.
Speaker 1: Today it's a late tea time sitting around is just
Speaker 1: the absolute worst he plays.
Speaker 2: What a powerful game, you know, he just went low.
Speaker 2: Conditions were supposed to be tarder in the morning.
Speaker 1: But how about how tong getting into the mix. He
Speaker 1: hasn't been like involved in a golf tournament that I've
Speaker 1: like really cared about. Sent into the President's Cup, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I just immediately the first thing I thought
Speaker 1: of was all the shenanigans from the President's.
Speaker 2: Cup, Ernie telling him to hit not hit driver. He
Speaker 2: didn't know the rules, didn't know like playing out order,
Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff just.
Speaker 1: Because his cat, his caddy, the strength coach or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, train physio, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Was a mess. Uh yea, I'm in the mix. He's
Speaker 1: a young talent.
Speaker 2: He's done a lot of damage on the euro Tour
Speaker 2: in the last four or five years.
Speaker 1: Oh, I wanted to talk about this now that you
Speaker 1: brought it up doing damage on the euro Tour. If
Speaker 1: this was a PGA Tour event and we did career
Speaker 1: wins and ran down the career wins list, if you know,
Speaker 1: obviously since they ignore PGA or anything that doesn't happen
Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, the leader would in a major
Speaker 1: would have zero wins. The second place, you know, Fleetwood
Speaker 1: zero wins, day would have wins, Burger Kopka, Rose would
Speaker 1: have wins MLVSERO wins. But he has zero wins on
Speaker 1: the euro Tour and it's just zero wins. He has
Speaker 1: a lot of LNGE Tour wins, and then you'd have
Speaker 1: like Paul Casey two wins or whatever, he's got three wins. Sure, sure, Sure.
Speaker 2: Brendan Dodd had a big protect the points kind of day.
Speaker 2: I just steered the ship in, guided it in at
Speaker 2: even par really trying to protect the points, get it
Speaker 2: to get to the weekend, because make sure he has
Speaker 2: those extra that extra bucket of thundred extra points or
Speaker 2: whatever it is.
Speaker 1: What are your reactions from the day. It's a long day.
Speaker 1: It was a great day, great day.
Speaker 2: Do you got I expected a little bit more out
Speaker 2: of the afternoon group than I got a little hot
Speaker 2: at the end with Brooksy's Brooksy's bunker shot on eighteen
Speaker 2: just left me kind of panting, that was so good.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 2: And then he makes a pot too on top of it.
Speaker 2: Like I slowed down a little bit with that Marquee trio.
Speaker 2: They weren't all that great. They were kind of all
Speaker 2: over the place. Rory's you know, charging then booting it away.
Speaker 2: But the Brooks bunker shot really was like, all right,
Speaker 2: oll this guy, he's gonna win the tournament, He's gonna
Speaker 2: win the championship.
Speaker 1: What's going on with his his body, his hip?
Speaker 2: He says, it's fine.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's rolling around on the ground.
Speaker 1: And Nike garb too. He's so eerily similar today, rolling
Speaker 1: around on the ground.
Speaker 2: Day, kind of letting it slip, Freud and sleep that
Speaker 2: he'd be on the ground while watching how Ton. He's like,
Speaker 2: I'd be on the ground. But I bet that amused
Speaker 2: you quite a bit.
Speaker 1: In his interview, I was I was doing something and
Speaker 1: then you know, he's got the interview going and I
Speaker 1: heard that and I immediately perked up. I was like,
Speaker 1: what he saying.
Speaker 2: Uh, Brooks is the favorite, right still the favorite. He's
Speaker 2: six He's in the group at six under. I thought,
Speaker 2: how tongue was you think? So he just played balls
Speaker 2: for seven and a half hours. It seems like a
Speaker 2: bad omen. What'suff going off in the background.
Speaker 1: I don't, I would say, I'd say Brooks. I kind
Speaker 1: of love Daniel Berger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him in a one and done league.
Speaker 2: Like I had to like a Paulie. I was like
Speaker 2: down the list, I need to make a charge, So
Speaker 2: I took a Burger.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he you like him more as a favorite? No? No,
Speaker 1: but I mean Brooks has to be the favorite.
Speaker 2: How Burger's swing is? I have no swing coach, I
Speaker 2: have no eye for this. Like I just it looks
Speaker 2: very different, That's all I'll say. It's it's almost like
Speaker 2: he's just trying to, like, you know, throw it up there.
Speaker 1: It's not aesthetically pleasing, like an out of Scott's way.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. You always wonder, like where the ball, how
Speaker 2: it's going to get close? But you think I think
Speaker 2: he and Brooks the are the two rose is somehow
Speaker 2: on my not another not another good poor week for
Speaker 2: for Ama. If he's in a major championship and their
Speaker 2: first major, big major chance, and there's roses out of
Speaker 2: his ama.
Speaker 1: So he's not hitting the ball great either. No, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the US Open. He's hitting it a
Speaker 1: little bit better than he was there, but but he's
Speaker 1: he's kind of doing it with chipping and putting, which
Speaker 1: is not usually his amo. Speaking of putting mc.
Speaker 2: Zach sixty six, seventy six. See yeah, how about Martin
Speaker 2: Marty Kaimer.
Speaker 1: Well that was that was that was.
Speaker 2: Seventy six he would have taken, I think, but Zach,
Speaker 2: you know, I was watching the end. Is Mike Lorenzo
Speaker 2: walking off?
Speaker 1: Or maybe his chez Chimer shot eighty two? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: sixty six eighty two?
Speaker 2: Why does why does the club Pro have to do
Speaker 2: the middle initial and not Zach?
Speaker 1: Why don't they Why don't they both have to do it?
Speaker 2: Well, you would think, you know, Zach be a Zach,
Speaker 2: being from Iowa, he'd be a little magnanimous about it
Speaker 2: and let the club Pro have the name. But there
Speaker 2: is I'm watching the Caddy bid. The other one's got
Speaker 2: to be Zach J. Johnson.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't.
Speaker 2: Understand, just because he wanted, but here'n that's not very
Speaker 2: you know magnanimous.
Speaker 1: If you saw Zack J. Johnson, you wouldn't know if
Speaker 1: that was Zach Johnsoner different Zach Johnson. Like nobody knows
Speaker 1: Zack Johnson's middle name. Sure, I guess, like if you
Speaker 1: saw Zach J. Johns, I would think of Zach Johnson
Speaker 1: any other week. Uh. Tough tay for Martin Kaimer.
Speaker 2: He had the triple and then just decided to pack
Speaker 2: it up and get the hell out.
Speaker 1: Of Dodge Bogey Bogey Bogy. But it's your boy, Juwe
Speaker 1: Young Kim, the husky boy.
Speaker 2: He missed the cut. Some good players missed the cut.
Speaker 2: But we have a great leaderboard. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: How far down the leaderboard would you go? I'd go
Speaker 1: down all the way to the bottom of the Big Bill,
Speaker 1: the bottom of h Yeah. Just because he battled, I
Speaker 1: really thought I was losing the bet to you with
Speaker 1: the speef big Bill that you know he was. He
Speaker 1: was four over at one point he was three outside
Speaker 1: the cut line. I was about to stop tracking Big
Speaker 1: Bill and uh, and then he had Birdie Barrage on
Speaker 1: the back nine. But all realistically I was I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Some my some of my buddies were
Speaker 1: texting me about best that I liked, and I said,
Speaker 1: I liked every I liked everybody from three up.
Speaker 2: Okay, because Tiger says somebody can go really low on
Speaker 2: this course. He says, he's still very much in it.
Speaker 2: You know if I drive it and hit it like
Speaker 2: I just did. Uh, you know he didn't put well,
Speaker 2: but he goes, he goes. Can I still win?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, golf course. You know there are going to be
Speaker 2: some big swings on the weekend, is what he said.
Speaker 1: So last year Brooks led by seven after two routes
Speaker 1: over over DJ and speed. This year we've got forty
Speaker 1: three players within seven shots of the leader. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I would I would agree that. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: thing is somebody could go out and shoot sixty three
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning and just come out of nowhere and be
Speaker 1: two shots off the lead. I think ten under leads
Speaker 1: it tomorrow. Hey, ten under? Okay, what do you think
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a I.
Speaker 2: Think, yeah, there's a there's a lot of guys at six.
Speaker 2: You'd have to imagine like another one of them has
Speaker 2: a sixty six.
Speaker 1: There you're just discounting that. How Ton can't shoot sixty eight?
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, yeah, I think he's gone like seventy
Speaker 2: one or something like that. Uh, we got to give
Speaker 2: a nod to speak too. You're talking about Rev battling speek.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's getting their shots off last night because
Speaker 2: he's on the range. Lady shot sixty eight. He got
Speaker 2: on the right side of the cut line. He gets in.
Speaker 2: I tweeted this, but watching Brooksy like just you know,
Speaker 2: sweep that ball out of bunker on eighteen to the
Speaker 2: top ridge, have it like kind of take a look
Speaker 2: at the hole and then make the putt, and then
Speaker 2: you have DJ and speed like moments later going the
Speaker 2: bunker on the right side and just short side themselves
Speaker 2: in the rough like not hopelessly like.
Speaker 1: Nowhere near the green.
Speaker 2: It was very sort of a snapshot of how these
Speaker 2: majors have gone, all elite talents at one point or another.
Speaker 1: But Brooks this is where he shows up. He gets
Speaker 1: it done.
Speaker 2: I know that's extrapolating probably too much, but it was
Speaker 2: a very stark contrast.
Speaker 1: Just you know, back to back groups. There just seemed
Speaker 1: to be putts in moments where you're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: like yesterday's round when he had he had like a
Speaker 1: ten foot around one for bogie. Yeah, and you're like, ah,
Speaker 1: this could be really bad if he makes double. Here
Speaker 1: he makes it. And then today even like on hold
Speaker 1: nine he had like a fifteen foot putt for par
Speaker 1: he makes it that, he goes to ten, he hits
Speaker 1: it to twenty feet for eagle, he makes another birdie
Speaker 1: and you're just, oh, he's rolling. He never loses seemingly
Speaker 1: loses momentum. He always is picking it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dovetailing off that rory. It's just like he starts
Speaker 2: throwing darts, you know, the drives, hit, find a couple
Speaker 2: of fairways, he makes three in a row, and then
Speaker 2: he just boots one up around the green, you know,
Speaker 2: ping pond. He put himself in a bad position to start.
Speaker 2: Then he has to you know the club rough grabs
Speaker 2: a club on his approach and he makes a triple
Speaker 2: and that's it, Like he's he's just not gonna You're
Speaker 2: not gonna win majors with triples, never anywhere, at any time,
Speaker 2: at any round. So it felt like he was sort
Speaker 2: of making a charge. He could have been in that
Speaker 2: like three four under group and then he just tumbles.
Speaker 2: So what other comments you got, yeah, are you worried
Speaker 2: about Brooks his health, By the.
Speaker 1: Way, I don't think so. I mean it's a little concerning, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think it's I think he'll be fine. I
Speaker 1: really like Jason Day, okare as long as he can
Speaker 1: hit enough fairways. That if Jason Day hits enough fairways,
Speaker 1: he's got such a good chance. His short game of
Speaker 1: putting is just so good and it's such a good
Speaker 1: Major championship. I was looking up Jason Day numbers and
Speaker 1: he's at that ten year mark right now of when
Speaker 1: he kind of started, and it's pretty unbelievable. His major record,
Speaker 1: he's he's got four runner ups, he's one to one,
Speaker 1: He's finished in the top top twenty five, top ten
Speaker 1: of major, forty of the.
Speaker 2: Time, bucket at Augusta, you know, blaunch at Augusta PGA
Speaker 2: seems like a place he always does well. He could
Speaker 2: have won a balt to throw, could have knocked off
Speaker 2: backstopper there. He was like, really the only thing that
Speaker 2: the only person that made that interesting. So uh, but
Speaker 2: I think people he's just kind of been forgotten about
Speaker 2: and he's not, you know, he doesn't get the publicity
Speaker 2: that it's more fun to talk about speed. It's more
Speaker 2: fun to talk about jt Ricky all these other players.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know DJ even day just sort
Speaker 2: of gets lost lost in the shuffle there.
Speaker 1: Him and DJ's major numbers are almost identical, which you'd
Speaker 1: never believe.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: Days are just a little bit better. Actually, he's got
Speaker 1: more top fives, more top ten.
Speaker 2: Do you like watching him play? Do you like this style?
Speaker 2: Like the aesthetic and all that.
Speaker 1: Right, it's slow, he kind of he hits it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he hits lots of great shots, but he doesn't it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily it's not beautiful like when Rory's going you know,
Speaker 1: it's yuh, he'll hit it into the rough here Chip.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost like a mixture. He's like he's like
Speaker 1: Spieth and DJ to get combined, but like a lesser
Speaker 1: DJ and probably around the same part of speeth around
Speaker 1: the greens. You know, yep, yep. I love the.
Speaker 2: There's such an odd mix. It's an odd mix. Leaderboard,
Speaker 2: you got Cam Cameron, don't.
Speaker 1: Call me cham. How about this?
Speaker 2: Is this the kind of place he could win?
Speaker 1: This? He hits to dry, He's picked up already four
Speaker 1: and a half shots off the tee.
Speaker 2: Shot sixty four. That's a good number today, real good number.
Speaker 1: He drives, he's driving at three point fifty and straight
Speaker 1: and if he's long as he's not just dysfunctional in
Speaker 1: any other aspect, it's gonna be a good week. He's
Speaker 1: hitting wedgend every great.
Speaker 2: Uh Tony Finales kind of mixed it in the mix there.
Speaker 2: He was, you know, sort of a feature in the
Speaker 2: late afternoon. He's potting is so bad. Did you see
Speaker 2: a put on eleven around halfway there?
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the worst part of
Speaker 1: the day. Yes, who was it? Ricky? Oh yeah, I've got.
Speaker 2: In the notes. Yeah, he misses the cut off of.
Speaker 1: That and his streak and just made cut streak.
Speaker 2: Do you think he did it in purpose on purpose? No,
Speaker 2: he's just done with this. He's done with like finishing
Speaker 2: Tea twenty five at Majors.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's sticking around at the house that
Speaker 1: he rented for the week and did with his buddies
Speaker 1: And we'll be hanging around the eighteenth Green on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Just gonna go like do some activations at the Golden
Speaker 2: Gate Bridge, get some pay some bills, doing that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. I saw someone tweet like he just cost
Speaker 2: himself twenty thousand dollars with that stub. I was like,
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars. That's like the wine at dinner? What
Speaker 2: is he talking about? Rocket mortgage? Just didn't they just
Speaker 2: go public like he's raking it in, like, oh, he
Speaker 2: just cost himself twenty grand. He doesn't even you know,
Speaker 2: he wipes his ass with twenty grand, So, uh, what
Speaker 2: do you make of that?
Speaker 1: It just was preposterous. It's so funny to see, Like
Speaker 1: the shot tracker, he hit a putt from six inches
Speaker 1: one inch to five.
Speaker 2: Inches, so he seemed perturbed by the first putt. Right
Speaker 2: he goes and he's like tapping down.
Speaker 1: A mark And I don't understand this, tapping down Marx.
Speaker 1: It's legal to tap down Marx.
Speaker 2: So he was fussing around. He seemed discombobulated, out of
Speaker 2: sorts off of that one, and he like trips over
Speaker 2: himself and then he stubs the putter and that's it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't and he's Ricky because he's so
Speaker 2: he's always on Ricky Tour Live. Everybody's gonna see it,
Speaker 2: everybody's pouncing on it, and you're not saying he wouldn't
Speaker 2: be a man of integrity and admit it, and Joe
Speaker 2: was Scavron was looking right at him, but like, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's the difference.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about the integrity thing with Rory, the
Speaker 2: overaction about him, like, look, ry seems like a man
Speaker 2: of great character. But the way we have an aggregation,
Speaker 2: there was an aggregation, there was a class aggregation. There's
Speaker 2: an aggregation of class comments about how he was so classy.
Speaker 2: It's like Pope Francis is gonna canonize Rory for saying,
Speaker 2: I don't think it was down that far. I don't
Speaker 2: think it was fluffed up that high. Now, I get
Speaker 2: it in the contrast to what we've seen recently from
Speaker 2: Bryson trying to get you know, create dangerous situations out
Speaker 2: of nothing to get a better lie, and you know,
Speaker 2: talking about the out of bounds line.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it that it looked it was a significant
Speaker 2: departure from recent weeks. But just the rush to shower
Speaker 2: him with such a class move, amazing move, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: He got a good lie out of it, and he
Speaker 1: flopped it on the green GoF favorite favorite thing to
Speaker 1: celebrate as gentleman.
Speaker 2: And I know, Yeah, it's at the professional level, it's overdone.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's always a bad thing, by the way,
Speaker 2: but I think we've kind of made it a cliche
Speaker 2: and that has no meaning anymore. We lean on that
Speaker 2: for no reason. But it was ridiculous the way that
Speaker 2: one article is just about people who tweeted about how
Speaker 2: classy it was.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. What else you got? What else do I got?
Speaker 1: We're you know, we could talk about what's the worst
Speaker 1: case scenario here? Tomorrow? Worst leaderboard?
Speaker 2: Is that what you're by the Kim Trengali d Q
Speaker 2: texting with somebody on site or who had had insight
Speaker 2: into what happened, and he was playing with the assassin
Speaker 2: and they just on the Assassin, got him, threw him
Speaker 2: in Lake versa beside the run shortcard. So the assassin
Speaker 2: nickname is out there. No, what's the worst case scenario?
Speaker 1: Yeah, tomorrow one player just separates and his four shots ahead.
Speaker 2: Camp Champ airmailing it and just separate himself, crushing you know, uh,
Speaker 2: the beating the course into submission with another He shot
Speaker 2: sixty four today?
Speaker 1: Man? Is that out there again for him? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so simple when you hit it three fifty and straight.
Speaker 1: If he's just hitting it, if he's hitting it three
Speaker 1: fiftieth straight all weekend, it's hard for him not to win.
Speaker 2: You know, well, what's the worst case scenario for everybody else?
Speaker 2: But the best case scenario for us? Would it be
Speaker 2: Todd Lanto?
Speaker 1: I think it's m l V Yeah, M Todd Todd
Speaker 1: would be That would be amazing. Do you think Todd
Speaker 1: sticks around?
Speaker 2: What do you mean lingers on the first page of Leader, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do. I think he had his protect the points,
Speaker 2: get get over the cut line, which he did, and
Speaker 2: uh yeah, why wouldn't he not stick around because he's
Speaker 2: slapping it?
Speaker 1: You know, he would be a good burnt cheeseburger making
Speaker 1: a run Tomorrow would be eleven. He's played in the
Speaker 1: final around a final group Sunday pairing Vala. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: played in darkness. It was kind of the marker. He
Speaker 1: was like a playing marker that that day. Didn't he
Speaker 1: make like a triple on the first hole or something
Speaker 1: something like that? Everybody was a ricky Phil and Roy. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think it's just crazy, is how open it is,
Speaker 1: how anybody has a chance really, you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just such a difference from the years before. So anybody
Speaker 1: you're disappointed in today.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on with JT? He just wins Memphis.
Speaker 2: I love that stiner he hit on was at sixteen
Speaker 2: the driver able par four. That was really cool. I
Speaker 2: think sometimes JT gets sort of type cast as like
Speaker 2: the American bomber golfer. You know, he hits at high
Speaker 2: on soft courses. But that was a pre creative shot there.
Speaker 2: Tiger wasn't going at it. Tiger laid up out to
Speaker 2: the left. It was a really cool shot. But otherwise
Speaker 2: I think it's it's been disappointing. He seems to not
Speaker 2: have like distance control going at all. Like he seems short,
Speaker 2: it seems long, and we just watched him win Memphis
Speaker 2: and now he's struggling. Ry just I don't want to
Speaker 2: pound on him too much. He's the prince at this point.
Speaker 2: He should be in this He should be in this championship.
Speaker 2: Who's most disappointing for you?
Speaker 1: John Ram? Do you see the camera? What you didn't
Speaker 1: see that he freaked out on a cameraman? Oh no,
Speaker 1: so he I saw. I heard he broke a microphone
Speaker 1: or something like that was yesterday. I think. But then
Speaker 1: today there's a camera in. Obviously there's nobody out there,
Speaker 1: so cameraman are in a tough position because every move
Speaker 1: they make people notice. So one camera in was just
Speaker 1: moved a little bit and he hit a bad chip.
Speaker 1: Then he missed the putt and he went up after
Speaker 1: the putt and the cameraman of the TV camera was
Speaker 1: standing there and he got like right up. He just
Speaker 1: stuck his big trunk right in the camera in a
Speaker 1: camera view and blocked the camera. It was so reminiscent
Speaker 1: of of Bryson's caddy Tim Tucker what he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a shame obviously. If it was Bryson who did that,
Speaker 1: the everyday on the internet would have gone nuts. But
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was. It was a bad
Speaker 1: look and he played pretty steak. I like to see more.
Speaker 2: From him, but I think he's a playing with Sergio
Speaker 2: on that Sergio osmosis from Sergio.
Speaker 1: It looks looks like he might play with Web tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so that might be a better pairing. You know, Webb
Speaker 1: is always with problem children, you know, and this kid,
Speaker 1: he knows how to do that. Foster a great round
Speaker 1: for for John rom There. He's a guy that's the
Speaker 1: perfect example of a guy. He could shoot sixty four
Speaker 1: tomorrow sixty three. Yeah, and he's right back in it.
Speaker 2: Shane Lowry snapping clubs over his leg. That amuse me.
Speaker 2: He's playing with Danny Lee.
Speaker 1: That's a.
Speaker 2: Marquis t t. How about this one twelve thirty local
Speaker 2: so three thirty Adam Scott colin Markawa. That's a good
Speaker 2: tea time.
Speaker 1: It's great teach. That's a good group. I hope they
Speaker 1: I hope they show us up. So one other they
Speaker 1: got j T and Spieth right, they were besties. The
Speaker 1: besties are together.
Speaker 2: That's at eleven forty eastern. So they're like the third
Speaker 2: or fourth group. Who's the player Marker, who's playing with
Speaker 2: Mackenzie Hughes. Oh, I thought it was gonna be with chess.
Speaker 2: No chess is with Charles the Chess Charles a reaction
Speaker 2: on eighteen. Yeah, he was fired up. He just got
Speaker 2: just got over the cut line. He must have gone
Speaker 2: up in the tree because someone sent us a picture
Speaker 2: of him with binoculars and his safari and his straw hat.
Speaker 2: They're like Charles hot Charles and Safari because he's looking
Speaker 2: up in trees at his binoculars, any anybody else, any
Speaker 2: other tea times jump off the page to you.
Speaker 1: Well you got bryceon Reed?
Speaker 2: No really, yeah, ah the gentleman, the gentleman, distinguished gentleman.
Speaker 2: Do a holy cow? Well they better show that one.
Speaker 2: What'd you make of Bryson today?
Speaker 1: Lost of lpouse early?
Speaker 2: Yeah, MLV is playing with camp Champ. I hope he doesn't,
Speaker 2: you know, get kind of spooked by the long drives.
Speaker 1: MLV pumps it. I know, but I mean, you play
Speaker 1: with camera Champ. He starts, that's not going to be
Speaker 1: something that flutters him. Camera Champ might get disturbed by
Speaker 1: the fact that he's gonna look at MLV and realize
Speaker 1: that he hasn't lived a tenth of the life that
Speaker 1: MLV has lived a full life. What did you think
Speaker 1: of the broadcast? ESPN?
Speaker 2: Any other comments saying what we said yesterday still stands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was. It was great. I I really wish.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I liked the most was
Speaker 1: how we actually got an announcer that understood what people
Speaker 1: wanted to hear, and how Ronaldi was talking to Jason
Speaker 1: Day about how tong Lee like about him practicing. That
Speaker 1: was one of the most interesting post round interviews I've
Speaker 1: gotten in a while because they just in Jason Day,
Speaker 1: to his credit, was like, I don't know what he's
Speaker 1: doing out there, and he opened up and it was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I like Jason Day more because of that, And I
Speaker 1: liked the interview because it was it was just hey, Jason,
Speaker 1: you're you're second place in a major. What are you
Speaker 1: doing well?
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, oh I'm playing great golf, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what's your mindset?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've really outperformed your usual performance on tour? Why
Speaker 1: you know? It was, Hey, how tong Lee's on the range?
Speaker 1: How crazy is that? You know? And Jason Days, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, you know, say something to him.
Speaker 2: McDonough It was awesome this morning with Bryce and he
Speaker 2: had the Bryson window and he goes when they broke
Speaker 2: the shaft, I thought he's gonna ask for a second opinion,
Speaker 2: you know, And then McDonough's just amusing himself by talking
Speaker 2: about like I wonder if what they told him he
Speaker 2: couldn't have it, what would happen?
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 2: That would have been fun to see, Like if you
Speaker 2: imagine hearing that on a PGA tour broadcast where they're mocking,
Speaker 2: you know, Bryson's approach with the rules officials recently, and
Speaker 2: that's what like this whole these last two days have
Speaker 2: really sort of dawned on me, is like getting some
Speaker 2: professional there's there's a big swath of there's an open
Speaker 2: field there between maybe having just been in it too
Speaker 2: long or getting in sort of a comfort zone where
Speaker 2: you're not relatable, to use your term last night, and
Speaker 2: like bringing on country singer, you know, Travis Upchurch who's
Speaker 2: got three million followers and influencer you know whatever, Vanessa
Speaker 2: Sky or you know, to do some mega cast thing,
Speaker 2: right like bringing in new voices that are prefers that
Speaker 2: also kind of you know, maybe Sean McDonough probably doesn't
Speaker 2: know as much golf as the guys who are doing
Speaker 2: the tour week to week. I'm sure he doesn't, but
Speaker 2: like they seem to be having fun, which made it
Speaker 2: so much more fun for me. It didn't seem rope,
Speaker 2: it didn't seem like a chore, it didn't seem like work.
Speaker 2: It seemed like a conversation that all of us have too.
Speaker 2: Like we mock Bryson as well. Everybody's joking at Bryson
Speaker 2: everybody's kind of put off by the way he's treated
Speaker 2: these rules. Officials just talk about it that way. You
Speaker 2: don't need to talk, you don't need to tap dance
Speaker 2: around it. And so like we we get in this
Speaker 2: this this dichotomy of like everybody's got to be the
Speaker 2: CBS crew that does it, and I'm not this is
Speaker 2: not a shot at them at all, but like.
Speaker 1: People who are in at week to week, or you
Speaker 1: need to.
Speaker 2: Be some live under par like Millennial a country singer,
Speaker 2: or somebody that's got a bazillion followers that is going
Speaker 2: to bring an audience that opens the stream for seventeen
Speaker 2: seconds in clothes is and any count as a viewer.
Speaker 2: There's a nice middle ground there, and I think we're
Speaker 2: getting it this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that exactly. It's it's so the broadcast is so
Speaker 1: much more. It's we're out of like Pleasantville. I feel
Speaker 1: like week to week is like Pleasantville. There's oh, it's
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. Everything's perfect here and we we just
Speaker 1: start having a real conversation about the tournament this week
Speaker 1: with the telecast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, but it also just feels more fun too,
Speaker 2: Like it makes me like it makes me want to
Speaker 2: pay attention more like I'm trying to hear what this
Speaker 2: being said because I'm amused by it. I'm entertained by it,
Speaker 2: and it just makes it feel more fun. And I
Speaker 2: gotta think the PGA is very happy with how this has.
Speaker 1: Gone, I would think so. Any other thoughts or to
Speaker 1: wrap it up? I got, I got some I get.
Speaker 1: Do you want some more MLV stuff? Sure? Sure? Sure? Sure?
Speaker 2: Is Ricky's pot the worst shot you've seen in this year?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's the worst shot.
Speaker 1: It seems like he lost his balance or something. Have
Speaker 1: you ever done that? No, I've like accidentally hit the
Speaker 1: ball like we're like, I've gone to like step up
Speaker 1: to the putt and hit it, Yeah, like cutting a
Speaker 1: pump down, But I had not actually gone back and
Speaker 1: like just flubbed it coming through. No, I can't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever done that. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I bet he hasn't done that. It's such a shitty
Speaker 1: way to miss.
Speaker 2: A cot, which makes me wonder if he took a
Speaker 2: diet he wanted out.
Speaker 1: He took just just a terrible way to mess a cod.
Speaker 2: All right, what's your MLV facts? You're added MLV facts.
Speaker 1: All right, so obviously I tweeted out the video of
Speaker 1: him him talking about he was being interviewed by Sky
Speaker 1: Sports after round drops. Yeah, he trust French, I can
Speaker 1: say what you know, and they say, well, you can't
Speaker 1: accuse that language. He goes, I'm French. I'm still learning.
Speaker 1: He struggled good enough to the tour to European Tour.
Speaker 1: He bounced back and forth. He went to Q School
Speaker 1: like five or six times, won a bunch of times
Speaker 1: on the Challenge Tour. Since like twenty fourteen, he's pretty
Speaker 1: much been a regular up there. He hasn't won. And
Speaker 1: it's like he got super emotional after his last runner
Speaker 1: up at the Sicilian Open. He like broke down in
Speaker 1: tears in a post round interview about you know because
Speaker 1: the you know, the the question was kind of like
Speaker 1: everybody's out here pulling for you, and you just basically
Speaker 1: you can't seem to get it done and uh and
Speaker 1: then he was leaning to buy yeah, and uh, here's
Speaker 1: what he said the next day. Last night, I was
Speaker 1: trying to get that amount of money out of my head,
Speaker 1: but it did not want to. So I accepted it
Speaker 1: and then went on the internet to see what car
Speaker 1: i'd buy if I want, Oh my god, and it
Speaker 1: would be a Ferrari F twelve TDS. That's just a
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars your five hundred thousand euro car.
Speaker 1: So he also sat in that interview. I've played with
Speaker 1: with Macklroy a few times in competition, and I struggled
Speaker 1: with him in the beginning because I was trying to overplay.
Speaker 1: That was the game plan today. Don't look at him.
Speaker 1: He's going to hit bombs. He's going to hit incredible
Speaker 1: iron shots, sky high and stuff, and that's not my game.
Speaker 2: I love that he's looking up the car in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night before the final round.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that he's also disclosing it open. And
Speaker 1: then he was also very outspoken about the Ryder Cup
Speaker 1: in France. If you remember that.
Speaker 2: What's you have to say about that? An you think
Speaker 2: you got a spot here, deserved a spot. Here's what
Speaker 2: he said.
Speaker 1: If you say to people in France that you play golf,
Speaker 1: they will say no, but really, what's your real job.
Speaker 1: Golf's not a good thing here. People don't care about
Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup. Honestly, nobody knows there's going to be
Speaker 1: a Ryder Cup in France. Only the golfers know. That's it.
Speaker 1: There won't be many fresh here there. There will be
Speaker 1: many more from England or Spain. Golf is a very
Speaker 1: private thing for people in France, private courses for rich
Speaker 1: families and rich people. And that's it.
Speaker 2: I remember that we loved hearing that. It's like the
Speaker 2: lead up to the Ryder Cups.
Speaker 1: No one cares. So here's one last thing. So in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, he's sitting on a couch at home. This
Speaker 1: is so similar to this flashback Friday. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: this is flashback. Did you do a flashback Friday? No? No,
Speaker 1: I started, I got, I started, I was pulling, I
Speaker 1: was doing all my I've pulling all my MLV stuff
Speaker 1: because I do gotcha? What's the story became MLV? Gotcha?
Speaker 1: So in twenty thirteen, this is like John Peterson, but
Speaker 1: like a real version of the John Peterson story. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was sitting on a couch at home and he
Speaker 1: was really struggling at this point. This is when he
Speaker 1: had racked up all the debt. Yep. I was sitting
Speaker 1: on the couch at home and golf was on the TV.
Speaker 1: I was watching David Horsey and at a year tour
Speaker 1: event and he was going well, now this has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with Dave, but I remember saying out loud,
Speaker 1: how can this guy be doing so well? I was
Speaker 1: beating him and so many others before. Then my girlfriend
Speaker 1: looked at me and said, because he's better than you.
Speaker 1: I said, no, he's not, really, and she's like, where
Speaker 1: are you now? You're on a sofa, nowhere, nowhere on
Speaker 1: the challenge to her, and he's playing well in the
Speaker 1: European so he's better than you. That's it. This was
Speaker 1: from a girl that doesn't know anything about cop and
Speaker 1: I was like, she's right, So where do you go
Speaker 1: from there? That was it. I was on the ground,
Speaker 1: the bottom of the sea, and that was the moment
Speaker 1: that I decided to push myself to the surface. So
Speaker 1: I called my brother Frank, who's a golf coach, and
Speaker 1: asked him to help me to carry for me at
Speaker 1: tour school. So he wasn't even in the Q school final.
Speaker 1: He was an alternate. Okay, that's right. Then guy dropped
Speaker 1: last guy in yeah, yeah, and then and then he qualified.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 2: So now he's back. There's a guy to root for.
Speaker 2: San Francisco this weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's another good quote. People want me to win
Speaker 1: more than I do. Every time I lose a tournament,
Speaker 1: I get stronger after that. So so you know what,
Speaker 1: I'll keep losing. What Kuy is a loose cannon. He's so.
Speaker 1: I love French golfers because they're so honest. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: talks in this I'll tweet out this player blog, but
Speaker 1: he talks about how he's mentally weak. Just steal three.
Speaker 1: It's amazing MLV, Sorry guy to watch. What's how to
Speaker 1: Shoot tomorrow? For you? Oh? Is he the leader? Fifty
Speaker 1: four leader? No?
Speaker 2: Okay, so today he's the first first leader ever after
Speaker 2: any major championship round from China.
Speaker 1: So what's he shoot? Seventy three? Oh my god? Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you all right? Yeah? I said seventy one
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, all right. We'll be back tomorrow.
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