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Speaker 3: Now make it up up up, all right, hit that

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Speaker 3: horn bade let's dad. What's up? Everybody? Welcome to the

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Speaker 3: Action Network Podcast. I am your host, Evan Abrams, and

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Speaker 3: today I am joined by Action Network NFL expert, the

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Speaker 3: one and only Chris Raybond.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Raybon?

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Speaker 3: How you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 1: I'm not great, Evan. New York Giants are just throwing

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Speaker 1: everything at the wall. But their quarterbacks can't throw. But

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Speaker 1: they signed a couple. Uh, still have no idea what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. I'm not not feeling this this Russell, I

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Speaker 1: mean Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston. If there could be

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks that I would like less want to have,

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Speaker 1: I don't know them. So not not great, not great,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Giants fan and Jamis is fine. No, he's not.

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Speaker 3: He's fine. A six and a half Thunderdog. When he

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Speaker 3: spots to a pick six. He's fine in betting. He

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Speaker 3: is not fine in football.

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Speaker 1: He throws.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk Okay, hell time, We're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 3: Giants in a second. Also listen, the wind total did

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Speaker 3: go up from three and a half to four and

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Speaker 3: a half. So there is positives across the market. But

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Speaker 3: you like to listen. Okay, so Raymond did talk about

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Speaker 3: the Giants. We are going to talk about them in

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Speaker 3: a second, but first we're going to kind of go

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Speaker 3: in the order of the draft today. We're to ignore Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start with Cleveland because I think we realize

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Speaker 3: Tennessee is going to do what they're gonna do. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk about the draft markets actually in a minute after

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Speaker 3: the next segment, But there minus twelve hundred to take

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Speaker 3: Camward right now, So we're gonna put that aside and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna start with the Browns. The rumor kind of

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Speaker 3: across the market right now a little bit is well

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Speaker 3: Abdul Carter to the Browns at two or the fact

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Speaker 3: that they might be trading for Dak, which is a

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Speaker 3: little bit odd. And also, I know you're going to

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Speaker 3: talk about this, but Jackson dark potentially, so why don't

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Speaker 3: you just set up what you think about this market

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Speaker 1: So, and this just extends to the betting He draft

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Speaker 1: the Browns kind of control everything. You know, we talked about,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you actually just nailed it. Abdul Carter right now

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Speaker 1: But that's and that means Hunter. That means Hunter could

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of opportunity. And and remember with

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Speaker 1: Action Network, you know, betting calculator and kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only guy's not. That's basically the second guy

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Speaker 1: Sell the team, fire the GM and then proceed That's

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Speaker 1: the performance. But like Russell Wilson was looking down at

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Speaker 1: It's the New York media. I don't think this is

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Speaker 3: My personal point of view is I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 3: six in success rate, both metrics much closer to his

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Speaker 3: The Giants were terrible last year, and they're both trying

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Speaker 1: And I just want to say, and this kind of

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Speaker 1: taking Hunter at number three. They spent a first round

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Speaker 3: I mean if if you take your door, if you

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Speaker 3: you win five games and you get fired anyway, it's just

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Speaker 3: anyway because you're gonna play Russ and you're not the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, first of all, Russell Wilson had a

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Giants are I just think the

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Speaker 3: Giants are playing Madden day to day, like, Okay, this

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Speaker 3: There's no like every time you see oh it's from

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Speaker 3: 's still take a quarterback. Kind of just doesn't make sense,

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Speaker 1: Be on an NFL roster. Have you seen this guy play? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the coach doesn't. The coach doesn't throw like

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Speaker 3: Stefan digs the Patriots. We can also talk about the

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Speaker 1: If he falls there, yeah, and you know it's he's

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we can talk about Hunter's odds to go

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Speaker 3: Like there's just so they're selecting between Mason Graham and

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Speaker 3: so that would be plus two to fifty in most places.

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Speaker 3: And I'm actually looking at running back at sixty six

435
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Speaker 3: to one and quarterback at three hundred to one. I think,

436
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Speaker 3: just based off of the fact that they haven't performed

437
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Speaker 3: up to standards, they're in the middle of a bit

438
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Speaker 3: of an odd situation where the three picks before them

439
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Speaker 3: have big question marks. I think throwing some flyers is

440
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Speaker 3: the right move. Okay, let's keep rolling here. Just I

441
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Speaker 3: need literally a sentence or two. Cooper Cup did end

442
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Speaker 3: up going to the Seahawks. It's you know, made a

443
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Speaker 3: splash in terms of headlines. But I think the really

444
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 3: the question is dk metcalf to Pittsburgh Locketts a free agent.

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Speaker 3: They still have Jackson Smith in the JIGBA, but eighteenth

446
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Speaker 3: pick in the draft. What is the overall thought for

447
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Speaker 3: Seattle and then we can move on to actual draft

448
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Speaker 3: talk here.

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Speaker 1: Seattle's got to uh, they they just they just they

450
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Speaker 1: just got to hope they're right. They got to be

451
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Speaker 1: right in the draft, and they got to hope they're

452
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: right on these evaluations because Sam Darnolds I have some

453
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 1: question marks about how he's gonna handle the type of

454
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Speaker 1: uh defenses that he saw the last two weeks of

455
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: the season against Detroit and against the Rams where he

456
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Speaker 1: just completely collapsed. Uh. Cooper Cup, Uh, you know, I

457
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Speaker 1: know Pook and the Coup is great, but Sean McVay,

458
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Speaker 1: you know, he he kind of knows what he's doing offensively,

459
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Speaker 1: and and and Matthew Stafford's still playing at a high level.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that Stafford was was thrown to him

461
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Speaker 1: less and you know, McVeigh kind of demoted him and

462
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Speaker 1: and gave you know, pooka even an even bigger role

463
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: and just kind of disappeared. And now he's older and

464
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: he's had a bunch of serious lower leg injuries. I

465
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Speaker 1: just think Seattle is they're being aggressive and they're kind

466
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Speaker 1: of doing you know, they're going out and they're getting

467
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Speaker 1: their guys. But I still think Seattle is closer to

468
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Speaker 1: a rebuild now. I like, you know, I do like

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Speaker 1: I do like the coach. I do think that he

470
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Speaker 1: knows what he's doing overall, But some of these personnel

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Speaker 1: decisions they just have to be right and they have

472
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Speaker 1: to draft really well. So with what are they gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Probably the fact that they got cut, the fact that

474
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Speaker 1: they got Donald, I would think they go defense or

475
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Speaker 1: O line. But defense is you know, the first you

476
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Speaker 1: got defensive line edge at six to one, safety at

477
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Speaker 1: six and a half to one, and a corner at

478
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Speaker 1: fourteen to one. They're probably won't go corner. But I

479
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Speaker 1: think that, you know, the coach is a defensive guy.

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Speaker 1: I think he throws the squires on defense for for Seattle.

481
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Speaker 1: But O line is is obviously a need. I don't

482
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Speaker 1: wide receivers in second place, Smith, the Jigwa is a

483
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Speaker 1: star and you just you just shelled out for Cooper Cups.

484
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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna spend a premium pick to

485
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Speaker 1: replace what essentially Tyra Lockett now, or you maybe wouldn't

486
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Speaker 1: place in Metcalf.

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Speaker 3: I don't know sprinkle on. I think it's sprinkle on

488
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Speaker 3: defensive line or edge. It's like I see six to one, yes, yes, yeah,

489
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Speaker 3: And I feel like that's the right move.

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Speaker 1: Yep, because I think Seattle wants to go defense just

491
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Speaker 1: based on it seems like they addressed the offense a

492
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Speaker 1: little bit more in free agency. I know they always

493
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Speaker 1: had the three receivers, but I just don't think it

494
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: makes sense to go premium here. And I think that

495
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Speaker 1: the market for receiving, we could talk about receivers because

496
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Speaker 1: I actually think that's an opportunity to bet in. Uh

497
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Speaker 1: first receiver taken. I think Golden has a real shot.

498
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Speaker 1: And it kind of reminds me of a few years ago.

499
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Speaker 1: I always bring this up because I always think it's

500
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Speaker 1: a great kind of point how we don't really know

501
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Speaker 1: exactly what these teams are thinking. But you know, Henry

502
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Speaker 1: Ruggs was like the third most likely got to be

503
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: the first receiver taken a few years ago. I think

504
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: it was Jerry Judy and Uh, and I want to

505
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: I think it was Ceedee Lamb. I want to say,

506
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: and Ruggs and are going to one? And why because

507
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: he has speed and that's just something that teams covet.

508
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: And so I wouldn't be surprised if Golden, who's still

509
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: you can usually get him about plus one seventy to

510
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: plus two forty to be the first receiver taken. I

511
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he goes over McMillan, who is

512
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: just not as sexy. In my opinion, I think Golden

513
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: just pops off more on tape and you know that

514
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: four four is gonna turn a lot of heads, and

515
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: he remembered. You know, the Raiders are even sitting there

516
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: at a premium pick, and everyone thinks they might be

517
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: the team that goes for for Gent, but who knows,

518
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: maybe they trade back, maybe maybe they you know, they

519
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: need receiver help too. So I think that's an opportunity

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Speaker 1: as well to bet Golden over McMillan first receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, my only question here is comparing Diggs

522
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Speaker 3: to Cup. I'm assuming Diggs's injury will make him come

523
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: back to the player he was. I mean twenty twenty

524
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: two and twenty three, he's got like a twenty four

525
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: percent win rate on most routes, and last year it

526
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Speaker 3: was at let's say sixteen percent. Let's just assume he

527
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: was injured and we're gonna get the player he was.

528
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Speaker 3: The issue with Cooper Cup is ability to get open

529
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, fifteenth, twenty two, seventy first, twenty third,

530
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, one hundred and second. Last year was

531
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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty first. I just think he's kind

532
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: of his body is failing him a little bit, which

533
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: I think is kind of the difference. So we will

534
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Speaker 3: see on both the h go.

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Speaker 1: I think Diggs, I think, I mean, you got to

536
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: you know what we're doing here. You gotta project ahead, right.

537
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: Remember the coordinator in Buffalo who I thought it did

538
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: a really good job last year, Brady, He soured on

539
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Digs down the stretch of even the year before that

540
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Speaker 1: when he was healthy. So he had that season which

541
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Speaker 1: it looked fine on paper, but it was really kind

542
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: of a tale of two seasons in that twenty twenty

543
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Speaker 1: three season with the final season with Buffalo and then

544
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Speaker 1: last year with Houston. You know, another very good quarterback,

545
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Speaker 1: and I mean it didn't really jump off the page

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Speaker 1: even last year before he got hurt. So I wouldn't

547
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Speaker 1: say Diggs is a slam dunk either. But the thing is,

548
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: the guy I do think is a slam dug is

549
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Speaker 1: Drake May. So like, even if Diggs is just kind

550
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: of a competent, slightly above average, you know, chain mover

551
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,320
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552
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: May didn't even really have that. I mean he had Douglas,

553
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,320
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554
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555
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,000
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556
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,760
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think Giggs is a guarantee either to

558
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559
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560
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562
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Speaker 1: Top, No, I mean, this is kind of what I

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Speaker 1: in this draft. And then you know it's kind of

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619
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621
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Speaker 1: they've done the right thing so far. By Stanton Patton,

622
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Speaker 1: it looks like they're going to to take cam warden

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Speaker 1: they you know, I mean, I just I think if

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: We have seen some crazy craziness, you know, with the

628
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Speaker 1: number one pick se at certain times in the draft

629
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Speaker 1: in years past, but generally it's pretty rare that a

630
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Speaker 1: team will move off a number one pick, especially when

631
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Speaker 1: they don't already have a quarterback. So, you know, Will Levis,

632
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Speaker 1: you can't you can't go into the season with Will

633
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: Levis again. So yeah, I think Ken Warden's the right choice.

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Speaker 1: I think Tennessee's doing the right thing, and then it

635
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: kind of puts all these other teams as we've as

636
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Speaker 1: we've discussed, in a tough position, and I'm not sure

637
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: anyone else after Tennessee really knows exactly what they're gonna

638
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Speaker 1: do yet.

639
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: But I think the fact that Jackson Dart is showing

640
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Speaker 3: up in first round Mox and like you said, kind

641
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: of getting rumored to come up, means that doors not

642
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,560
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643
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644
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,560
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Speaker 3: that's also why Cam kind of shot up to minus

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Speaker 3: twelve hundred, because all of a sudden, Jackson Dart to

647
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Speaker 3: like the Rams at twenty seven is something that's being

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Speaker 3: discussed or I'm sorry, the Ravens and different people like that,

649
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: which is kind of intriguing.

650
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: But I think I think what part of it is

651
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: the whole Aaron Rodgers situation, right is sir, you know

652
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: there was you know, he was a guy that you

653
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: know somebody was counting on, and it's kind of up

654
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: in the air, and then and then you've got the

655
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Vikings who you know, they're saying, okay, JJ's saying a

656
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: they haven't guaranteed me the job. And so there's also

657
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: just a lot of quarterback teams that still need quarterbacks.

658
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: I mean, and now the Cowboys are talking about trade

659
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: and Dak. The Browns still don't have an answer at

660
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: the position. The Giants have, you know, stop gaps, but

661
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: they don't have a long term answer, you know. So

662
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of these quarterback needy teams, and

663
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: I think that is probably also the reason. But I mean,

664
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: I just think if you watch Dart and then you

665
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: watch Sanders, not that I think Sanders is necessarily going

666
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: to be a bus but like I just Dart looks

667
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: like the better quarterback in my opinion. Now, I know

668
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: there's people that probably have watched even a ton more

669
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: film than I have on Dart, so I respect it,

670
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: but I'm not surprised at all. This is dark kind

671
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: of shooting up the board, just giving the quarterback uncertainty

672
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: with these teams and just his level of play.

673
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean being talked about to the Rams in

674
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: that specific position with Stafford there, I even see one

675
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: mock draft Y're talking him to like the Bengals in the.

676
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: First thing, I think he's gone to one of the

677
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: top teams in the draft.

678
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that makes sense, but I do

679
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: think that, like some of your long shot fifty to ones,

680
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 3: forty to ones inside the top five based off of

681
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: just the question marks we're seeing around Shador is an

682
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: interesting way to look at it, all right, So let's

683
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: talk another draft prop here, which is basically categories of positions.

684
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: So wide receiver. You talked about Golden running back with

685
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: gent like who's going to go first by position in

686
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: each of them, so the favorites wide receivers. McMillan, he's

687
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: about minus three hundred. You've talked about Golden at two

688
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: to one having some value, and I think the speed

689
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: there is probably an interesting factor to kind of vault

690
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: him above McMillan in some people's mocks. So is there

691
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: anything else here you find interesting?

692
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think when you you know, when

693
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: you watch McMillan, you know, I get it, he's kind

694
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: of the you know, like a pro ready kind of

695
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: what the scout, what scouts want and everything. But I

696
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: just think they want speed. So, you know, I think

697
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: at minus two thirty five he's down, he would be

698
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: a fade even if Golden wasn't jumping out as the

699
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: obvious alternative. But as far as you know quarterback, you

700
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: gotta look at the second quarterback, you know, So you

701
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: know Dart is I think he's plus six fifty to

702
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: be the second quarterback. You know, if we if we

703
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: if we're thinking Should or Mike Slide, Dart could absolutely,

704
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, kind of occupy the spot. You know all

705
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: the mock drafts that Should Door has been occupying for

706
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: the last you know, a few months, So that's not

707
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: out of the question. So I think Dart at quarterback

708
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: for second quarterback running back, just bet mac whatever they

709
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: let you bet on Ashton genty bet it. Just just

710
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: do it. Like I mean, he's he's twenty, he's minus

711
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: he's minus twenty five hundred, don dk I think I've

712
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: seen even larger enough shorter numbers I should say in

713
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: other books. Uh, he's going to be the first running back.

714
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: Take it. It's a deep running back class. So it's

715
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna get interesting after him. Just where these other running

716
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: backs fall, is there gonna be you know, more running

717
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: backs in round one? A lot of people think so,

718
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: at least Hampton. Uh but uh, just whatever the whatever

719
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: your sports book or sports books let you put on

720
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: genty just way, you know, way until you know, make

721
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: sure he doesn't. Make sure he's uh, you know, alive

722
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: and well and before the draft, whatever they let you

723
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: get down, just put it down. I mean this is

724
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: that no one is taking a running back over uh genty.

725
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: He's just he's just a monster. And you know there's

726
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: already enough stigma around uh running back for some team

727
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: to go out and just take somebody and pass on him.

728
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, bet bet the house on on genty.

729
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: If anything, Hampton will rise above, rise up the board.

730
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: But he's never gonna pass him. So I think the

731
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: value would be Hampton to go a little earlier. The

732
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: only category I see kind of any weakness in guests

733
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: would be offensive line. I've been trying to find a

734
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: reason why Will Campbell might jump armand Membu since they've

735
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: got Membu going. You know, it looks like seventh to

736
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: the Jets and Campbell going Let's say, I don't know,

737
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: tenth to the Bears, ninth to the Saints in some

738
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: different situations. So I think at like plus two point

739
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 3: fifty based off of what we see over the next month.

740
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: Campbell might be an interesting look, but the other ones

741
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: are five fifties, six fifties, you know, seven fifties, and

742
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: I just don't see the value in the dog in

743
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: a lot of those markets. So yeah, that is the way.

744
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: That is the way I looked at it.

745
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with you on that one because

746
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: it just looking through some of these teams picking you know,

747
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: we talked about a team like the Jaguars that you know,

748
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: new regime, new, you know, new undernew, new leadership, you know,

749
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: and there's just a lot of these teams that we

750
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: don't really have as much of a track record cause

751
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: they're bad, right, so you know, and so all it

752
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: takes is is one evaluator to have Campbell higher on

753
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: the board. And you know, when you see odds for

754
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: the draft, you know, plus one eighty, like the favorite

755
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: is like you know, minus two seventy or something like that,

756
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: and the next guys like plus one eighty or plus

757
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: two hundred, like that's close, like per draft because the

758
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: books are they're they're you know, they're they're not spending

759
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: too much time on these props, but they will aggressively adjust.

760
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, don't don't be surprised if Campbell

761
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: ends up being the favorite, just depending on all it takes.

762
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: Is like one popular mock or you know one trade,

763
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: or you know one rumor of another team doing another thing.

764
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: So with all the uncertainty starting from really two out on,

765
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: I think that you like all of these kind of

766
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: realistic long shots, so to speak. So like the guys

767
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: in the second most likely guy or the third most

768
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: likely outcome, even in some cases perhaps those are those

769
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: are those are where the I use that given the

770
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: uncertainty from two one down, you know, whatever the Browns

771
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: do at two, whether it's traded, whether it's take card,

772
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: whether it's take Standards, whether it's take Dart, whether it's

773
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: take Hunter, there's so many different scenarios that are still possible.

774
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: And then the Giant same thing, and then the Patriots

775
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: Saint thing, and so it's a great bet to lock

776
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: in Campbell now because I definitely don't think there's that

777
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: big of a gap.

778
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: And to be fair, he's higher than Member on big boards.

779
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: I've seen nine and ten in different spots, and the

780
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: range is basically the same. Members range is four to seventeen.

781
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: Campbell's is four to sixteen. Basically, you know, same situations

782
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: about preference on team. Okay, let's keep moving here. So

783
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 3: team to draft player. There's some markets out there for

784
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: gen for Travis Hunter. Is there anything I know, we

785
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: talked about some long shots in a Hunter's market because

786
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: we feel like really unique player that is probably more

787
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: likely someone to draft to trade up for, which is

788
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 3: probably worth the dart itself. So what are you thinking

789
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: in terms of Hunter?

790
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: So with Hunter, we're fading the Giants. Don't love the Patriots,

791
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: but you know they're two to one. But I look

792
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: at you know, the Browns are four to one, the

793
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Jags are plus six fifty. Both of those teams are

794
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: a lot more likely than their odds suggests. So those

795
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: are the two that I'd be targeting. And then you

796
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: can hedge with you know a little bit on the

797
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: Patriots as well. So you're essentially fading the Giants. And

798
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: you know, again, don't be surprised if a team within

799
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: striking distance maybe trades up, right, you know, I think

800
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: there are just all these teams, I mean, everybody, there's

801
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: almost any every team in the league could use the

802
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. He's just so good. He might very well

803
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: be the best player in the draft. So even you know,

804
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: it's just tough because you got so many long shots.

805
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: But I would look at even the team teams that are,

806
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, picking right after those top five, you know,

807
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Jets, the Saints, teams like that, wouldn't be

808
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: surprised if you know, somebody tries to cobble together something

809
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: to make it happen. So, you know, I think the

810
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: key is bad Hunter in some way, and I think

811
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: you put you put the most on rounds and Jags

812
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: and Jags I think are really intriguing because I think again,

813
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's just there's so much uncertainty.

814
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: They could absolutely use them on both sides of the ball.

815
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: They could. They wouldn't have to trade up very far

816
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: to get him, and the team picking right ahead of

817
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: them is kind of at least that cornerback. They're they're

818
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: in a good spot now at receiver. Yeah, but I

819
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like, what do you think I mean? I get

820
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: the sense that NFL teams are looking at him more

821
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: like a cornerback, right, I do.

822
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: But I also have to look at it, like, would

823
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: it make sense on any team that I am betting

824
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: on to like trade up to get him, would use

825
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: him both ways, right, because I think anybody who's willing

826
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: to pay up to get him has to be looking

827
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: at him like we can use him here, we can

828
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: use him there. Like they have to be like, all right,

829
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: it's worth the risk, because if you're just going up

830
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: there to get a cornerback, I don't see it. I

831
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: think you have to be willing to kind of move

832
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: him around and use him in multiple spots to be

833
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: able to justify the capital that you're giving up to

834
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: get him. So I was looking, you know, long shoddy

835
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: like I tend to do sometimes Niners and Bears at

836
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: eleven and ten. I think Jacksonville is the right play.

837
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: So I think six p fifty I've seen seven to

838
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: one that is the right play in my opinion, on

839
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: a shorter scale, because they are right there in striking distance.

840
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: They have to give up the least amount to probably

841
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: get into those few slots to grab him. But if

842
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: you wanted a oh my god, here they come. I

843
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: felt like Chicago based off of literally the new res

844
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and what they would potentially want to do

845
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: to kind of spice things up. And I think Shanahan

846
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: and san Francisco losing all these pieces and potentially trying

847
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: to do something different and make a splash. You want

848
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: to say, Dallas, but they're just never going to do it,

849
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 3: so you can just throw them out the door that

850
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: that's just not part of their pedigree. But I thought

851
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: those other two teams, and you know, I consider it

852
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: the Jets. They're thirty to one at seven, but again,

853
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, they have a decent cornerback class room,

854
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: you know, so I just don't necessarily think that adding

855
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: Hunter there, and then you know, you have fields, so

856
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: you know, I think you're really you have question marks

857
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: anyway on the wide receiver position. So I kind of

858
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: like those other two.

859
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: And am you know, I would even look at you know,

860
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: go a little bit further down the board and just

861
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: look at teams that have been aggressive in the past,

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00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: like like like Detroit. You know, Detroit has been aggressive

863
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: in the draft going after guys they want. I mean,

864
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: was it James Williams to be your Gibbs? So you know,

865
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: there could also just be a surprise team. I like that.

866
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: So I like your Niners call, because like a team

867
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: that we kind of think isn't you know, in desperation mode.

868
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: But a lot of times those kind of teams, you know,

869
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: those GMS, they've shown that, Okay, we have an evaluation

870
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: on a guy and we want that guy, and Travis

871
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: Hunter will absolutely be that guy for pretty much every

872
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: team in the league. So I wouldn't be surprised if

873
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: if it's a team that just kind of comes out

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00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 1: the blue that maybe even with a playoff team last year,

875
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: that that ends up swinging for him. So that's why.

876
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: But it's tough because you can't bet all thirty two,

877
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: but that is something to kind of look out for.

878
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: But you can take a few shots, especially in that

879
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: thirty to forty range, Like I will say, Jets at

880
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: thirty to one is there, Chicago's forty to one. San

881
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: Francisco's fifty to one, so is Dallas. So you can

882
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: take some of those shots. But okay, So that's I

883
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: think we're gonna leave it today. Uh. I think next

884
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: time we're gonna hit on positions since they are starting

885
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: to come up in a bunch of different places. Basically,

886
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 3: do you like certain positions for certain teams as those

887
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: markets tend to fluctuate a little bit, And I think

888
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: at least I've learned in the past that those have

889
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: some serious value in terms of taking some of the

890
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: plus sides. But we'll say that for next time. We've

891
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 3: done about an hour here, so thank you very much, Raybond.

892
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: This has been awesome. By the time we talk next time,

893
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: Rogers might be in the league. I don't know something's

894
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: gonna happen in there at some point, but any any

895
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: thoughts there before we get out.

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00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he was burying there last last season, so

897
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: the until he started playing in in Florida in December.

898
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean listen, like the eye test doesn't

899
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: lie very often. Rogers already had like kind of like

900
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: this decline and then he came back and you know,

901
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: one of the m vps. I just don't think he's

902
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: he's got another like needle move in him. I don't

903
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: think he's Tom Brady. Uh. Same thing with you know,

904
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and like all these guys Like this is

905
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: why we're talking about Jackson Dart and Shore Sanders and

906
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: Karen Warden's because like these guys, there has been at this.

907
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: But if you're but if you're gonna handicap it, he's

908
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: gonna go to Pittsburgh before he retires.

909
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: Right I I I would think so, I mean it

910
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: seems like he's still angling for the Vikings. Uh. And

911
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: I get that, you know, indoor stadium, follow the footsteps

912
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: of uh, you know Farv and you know all the

913
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: all those guys. But uh, you know, and go back

914
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: in that division, you get to play against the Packers. Uh,

915
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: you got Justin Jefferson, you got Jordan Madison, You've got

916
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: a great offensive coach. So I get it.

917
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Vikings are still you know the

919
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: fact that JJ McCarthy is kind of saying, hey, uh,

920
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't big guaranteed anything. I think that

921
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: that's a team that to kind of watch for. I

922
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: think maybe I think they're still absolutely in play. But

923
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Speaker 1: I would think he would go to Pittsburgh. I mean

924
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: why not. I mean, you got to hide floor. You

925
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: know that defense is gonna show up, and you don't

926
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: even really have to be your like, you don't have

927
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: to be like that vocal leader because you got a

928
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: guy like Tomlin. So yeah, I would think Pittsburgh would

929
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: be attractive. But it is a cold weather, cold weather team,

930
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: and like I said, he played a lot better in

931
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: Florida last year than he did at really any other point.

932
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Speaker 1: I remember a few games in the Rain. I think

933
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: it was the Vikid's game, the Broncos game. He did

934
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: not play well, and pretty much the entire year just

935
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: did not play well into those Florida games. So yeah,

936
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Speaker 1: I think that's why he's looking at He's kind of

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00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: holding out hope for the bikes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if there's nothing Aaron Rodgers likes more at his attention,

939
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: so he will probably wait a little bit. But I agree,

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00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: if you would have liked the Steelers, he probably just

941
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 3: would have went there. I think he's waiting out as well.

942
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 3: All right, we will see what happens before our next pod,

943
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: and we will do that next week. But thank you

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Speaker 3: for listening to the Action Network pot I am your host,

945
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: Devin Abrams. That is Chris Raybun and you know, check

946
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,520
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947
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,800
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948
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,840
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949
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:21,880
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