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Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and

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Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do

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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 3: On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical debt and so

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Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. It's been

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Speaker 3: a long time since I first started researching the afterlife,

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Speaker 3: and you may wonder what is it that keeps me going? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I've studied things like reincarnation, induced after death communication, the

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Speaker 3: world of signs, EVPs, instrumental transcommunication, and so much other stuff.

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Speaker 3: I would say the top three things I love talking

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Speaker 3: about and investigating for myself that really keep me kind

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Speaker 3: of plugged into the reality of the afterlife is I

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Speaker 3: can never get enough good stories about verifiable near death experiences.

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Speaker 3: We've heard a lot about that on the show in

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Speaker 3: recent episodes. Also the world of mediums. Now, I know

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Speaker 3: it's tough to find a good medium, and you probably

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Speaker 3: heard that our new film Evidence of the Afterlife just

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Speaker 3: with the properly trained medium and even taking medium classes ourselves,

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Speaker 3: we are so surprised with the information that we think

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Speaker 3: So I love staying plugged into evidential mediumship, telling stories

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Speaker 3: and someone who had once lived speaks through them with

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Speaker 3: but also for myself as I'm getting older. I turn

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Speaker 3: that nobody dies alone. So that will be our theme

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Speaker 3: recently the TV show The Pit one for Best Actor,

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Speaker 3: of this episode looking at the stories that prove that you,

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Speaker 3: my friend, are a divine soul having a human experience.

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Speaker 3: You are perfect just the way you are, and your

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Speaker 3: life matters more than you can possibly know. You aren't

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 3: to a world of information, experiences and ideas. It can

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Speaker 3: also expose them to risk. Teach your children the basic

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Speaker 3: safety rules of the virtual world. Our children are everything.

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Speaker 3: Do everything for them.

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Speaker 5: Hey, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua P. Warren. Don't

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Speaker 5: forget to check out my show Strange Things each week

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Speaker 5: as I bring you the world of the truly amazing

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Speaker 5: and bizarre right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain.

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Speaker 3: Now I want to take a look at what happens

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Speaker 3: when the soul actually steps through the door and then

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Speaker 3: it comes back to tell us about it. To do that,

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Speaker 3: I want to revisit a conversation I had with doctor

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Speaker 3: Penny Sartori. Penny is a lady I admire a lot.

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Speaker 3: She worked as an intensive care nurse for seventeen years

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Speaker 3: with the most critically ill patience that you can ever imagine.

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Speaker 3: She eventually undertook the UK's largest and first long term

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Speaker 3: study of near death experiences and was awarded a PhD

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Speaker 3: for her research. Penny is the author of a wonderful

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Speaker 3: book called The Wisdom of the near death experience. Penny

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Speaker 3: told me that what sparked her research was a man

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Speaker 3: she was caring for in the ICU. He had a

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Speaker 3: very long, difficult, and very painful death and it hit

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Speaker 3: her so hard that she went home and realized, we

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Speaker 3: don't understand death at all. And as a nurse, she

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Speaker 3: was trained in science, she was taught in medical books

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Speaker 3: the near death experiences were just hallucinations or a dying

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Speaker 3: brain firing off random signals. But her heart thankfully told

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Speaker 3: her something else. Now, Penny did something very smart that

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Speaker 3: a lot of research miss She decided to do a

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Speaker 3: side by side comparison. She studied patients who were clearly

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Speaker 3: hallucinating because of their high doses of drugs, fever, etc.

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Speaker 3: And compared them with patients who reported a near death experience.

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Speaker 3: What she found was interesting. They were completely different. You see,

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Speaker 3: when a person hallucinates, they're usually confused. They might see

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Speaker 3: spiders on a wall, or think the nurse is someone

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Speaker 3: she isn't. It feels messy and all mixed up together.

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Speaker 3: When those people wake up later they rationalize it. They

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Speaker 3: can say, oh, I was out of my mind, I

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Speaker 3: was on those medications. I'm so sorry. I was embarrassed

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Speaker 3: by what I said. But the people who had near

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Speaker 3: death experiences, they're different. They are adamant. They told her

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Speaker 3: it was realer than real. They described a heightened state

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Speaker 3: of awareness that made our everyday life on Earth seem

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Speaker 3: like it was just a fuzzy dream. Penny said, she's

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Speaker 3: seen grown men now I'm talking tough military type men

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Speaker 3: who don't show emotion, break down in tears, crying unconditionally,

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Speaker 3: trying to find the words for the pure, unconditional love

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Speaker 3: that they felt. On the other side, they all say

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Speaker 3: the same thing. There are no words in our language

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Speaker 3: to describe how wonderful it is, and the memories are

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Speaker 3: clearer than any memory they had on Earth. One of

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Speaker 3: the most powerful things Penny and I talked about was

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Speaker 3: the panoramic life review. So imagine your whole life played

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Speaker 3: out in front of you, not just like a movie

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Speaker 3: on the screen, but you are in it. And here's

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Speaker 3: the part that really makes you think. You don't just

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Speaker 3: see what you did, You actually get to feel and

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Speaker 3: witness the ripple effect of your actions. Penny explained it

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Speaker 3: like this, If if you were mean to someone, or

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Speaker 3: you were violent or unkind, you don't watch it as

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Speaker 3: a spectator, you actually feel what it was like to

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Speaker 3: be on the receiving end of your own actions. You

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Speaker 3: feel their pain. But and this is the beautiful part,

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Speaker 3: it works for the good stuff too. If you were

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Speaker 3: really kind, even in a tiny way that you didn't

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Speaker 3: think mattered, you feel the joy you gave that person.

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Speaker 3: Penny said that something as simple as giving someone a

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Speaker 3: compliment or holding a door open for a stranger has

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Speaker 3: a ripple effect of kindness, and you get to experience

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Speaker 3: that in your review. The most amazing thing she found

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Speaker 3: is that there is no judge sitting on a throne

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Speaker 3: telling you you were a bad person. The presence with you,

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Speaker 3: the light, the being of love, whatever you want to

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Speaker 3: call them, is actually there to comfort you. You are

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Speaker 3: the one doing the reflecting. You look at your life

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Speaker 3: and you think, well, I could have done that better,

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Speaker 3: or oh, I'm so proud I was brave there. Think

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Speaker 3: about how that changes how we live today. If we

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Speaker 3: actually knew that we are going to feel the receiver's

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Speaker 3: end of our actions, would we stay in a lousy

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Speaker 3: mood and snap at our spouse or our roommate, or

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Speaker 3: would we take a breath and choose kindness. It's actually

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Speaker 3: a huge incentive to live life with integrity right now.

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Speaker 3: It isn't about being perfect. None of us are perfect.

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Speaker 3: We can't be. But it's about being aware. Penny told

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Speaker 3: me a story from her study. It was about a

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Speaker 3: man on a night shift. He was unconscious and his

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Speaker 3: condition was very poor. It wasn't looking good for him.

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Speaker 3: During the night, he started communicating with someone no one

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Speaker 3: could see. He had this huge, beaming smile. He was

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Speaker 3: mouthing the words what are you doing here as if

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Speaker 3: he were having a conversation. The next day, when he revived,

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Speaker 3: he told Penny that his deceased mother and grandmother had

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Speaker 3: visited him. But then he said, I can't understand it.

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Speaker 3: My sister was with them. Why was she there? Well,

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Speaker 3: it turns out that his sister had died the week before.

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Speaker 3: That he was in such bad shape that the family

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Speaker 3: hadn't told him, and they certainly didn't want to upset

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Speaker 3: him while he was in the ICU. This man had

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Speaker 3: no earthly way of knowing that his sister had died,

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Speaker 3: but he saw her in the spirit world. This isn't

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Speaker 3: a byproduct of our brains shutting down. This is a

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Speaker 3: fact from a world, the spirit world that is very

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Speaker 3: much alive and real. Penny also told me about her

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Speaker 3: very first day as a student nurse. She was in

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Speaker 3: the morning report and the night nurse said, the man

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Speaker 3: in bed six will be dead by noon, and he's

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Speaker 3: been talking to his dead mother since three a m.

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Speaker 3: Penny thought they were winding her up because it was

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Speaker 3: her first day at work. But when she went to

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Speaker 3: the bedside and saw the man gesturing to the air

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Speaker 3: and calling out to someone, and then around eleven thirty,

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Speaker 3: he suddenly sat up with a huge smile, and then

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Speaker 3: he got this burst of energy out of nowhere, and

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Speaker 3: then he reached out his arms as if he was

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Speaker 3: welcoming someone into a giant hug. Then he just relaxed,

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Speaker 3: leaned back, closed his eyes, and he was gone. It

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Speaker 3: happened so often that nurses like Penny just consider it

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Speaker 3: a normal part of their day. Can you imagine that

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Speaker 3: normal to see this. They see it as a welcoming

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Speaker 3: committee who gets the person ready to pass. To me,

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Speaker 3: that is so comforting to know that we are never alone.

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Speaker 3: Penny's research also shows that we have more control over

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Speaker 3: the timing of our earthly departure than we realize. She's

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Speaker 3: seen patients hang on until a relative arrives from hundreds

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Speaker 3: of miles away, or this is so common. Sometimes they

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Speaker 3: wait for the family to leave the room to get

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Speaker 3: a cup of coffee or something before they let go

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Speaker 3: and pass. It's like they need the quiet to finally

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Speaker 3: step through the door. I want to remind you about

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Speaker 3: what Penny found out about the fear of death. She

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Speaker 3: spoke to a hospice consultant who said the most peaceful

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Speaker 3: deaths she ever witnessed were from people who had previously

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Speaker 3: had a near death experience. Now why is that? Because

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Speaker 3: they knew exactly what was coming. They had zero anxiety.

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Speaker 3: They knew they were going to a place where they

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Speaker 3: would be with family again, and where they'd be healthy

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Speaker 3: and whole. I want to pause here and talk about children,

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Speaker 3: because Penny loves studying children's near death experiences. Children, you see,

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Speaker 3: don't have all the baggage and ideas that maybe we have.

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Speaker 3: She told a story of a young boy in Germany

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Speaker 3: who had to have emergency surgery. He told his dad

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Speaker 3: later that he went to a park. He said he

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Speaker 3: had to go through a tunnel to get there, and

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Speaker 3: the park had a white picket fence. He tried to

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Speaker 3: climb over it, but a man was there and said, no,

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Speaker 3: you have to go back. He wasn't scared, he just

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Speaker 3: described it like he'd gone to a real playground. When

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Speaker 3: we see children having the same experiences as adults, it

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Speaker 3: proves it's a universal human experience. Penny Sartore actually gave

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Speaker 3: up her nursing career to do this afterlife research full

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Speaker 3: time because she was so gripped by the message. And

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Speaker 3: she's right, it's not a morbid subject. Learning about death

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Speaker 3: is actually the best way to learn about life. It

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Speaker 3: teaches us to be of service. It teaches us to

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Speaker 3: be mindful of the ripple effect that we leave behind.

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Speaker 3: She also found out that even when an experience starts

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Speaker 3: out scary or dark or negative, which is rare, if

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Speaker 3: the person just relaxes and lets go, it almost always

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Speaker 3: turns into a beautiful, light filled experience. It's our own

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Speaker 3: fear and clinging, that ego we have that makes it

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Speaker 3: feel heavy, but when we surrender, love takes over. I

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Speaker 3: loved when Penny said that being kind isn't just nice,

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Speaker 3: it actually changes our physical health. There's so much science

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Speaker 3: showing that our compassion and laughter produce good chemicals in

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Speaker 3: our bodies that actually help us heal. They're called endorphins,

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Speaker 3: by the way. So when we live like we truly

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Speaker 3: are a divine soul, we can actually help our bodies.

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Speaker 3: It's all connected. It just reminds me of all the

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Speaker 3: stories that I've told you over the last five years.

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Speaker 3: In a little secret hint, if you want to help

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Speaker 3: people light up their own soul, get people talking about

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Speaker 3: what they love about their life. It helps us remember

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Speaker 3: who we really are, and it helps bring joy to

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Speaker 3: them and to yourself. So I feel like my own

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Speaker 3: divine spark is right on track at this exact moment

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Speaker 3: here on Earth. We're developing and doing the best we can.

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Speaker 3: Our souls are growing. I always say that life is

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Speaker 3: an education for the soul, and we're doing our best

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Speaker 3: to be the best version of who we are meant

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Speaker 3: to be. But here's one key I want you to remember.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to be perfect. We just have to

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Speaker 3: keep trying. Going to go back to those four things,

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Speaker 3: are you saying them to yourself? I love you, I

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Speaker 3: thank you, I forgive you, will you forgive me? I

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Speaker 3: want to leave this segment with one last thought before

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Speaker 3: we go into our break. If you've been carrying around

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Speaker 3: a secret or a regret, remember the life review. You

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Speaker 3: have no power to fix the ripple effect right now. Well,

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Speaker 3: of course, you can make an apology. You can send

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Speaker 3: a thank you note to someone that might have helped

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Speaker 3: you long ago over the years, or send out a

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Speaker 3: silent thank you mind to mind. But remember you're still

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Speaker 3: living your life. You can change your life any moment

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Speaker 3: of any day. The past is in the past. You

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Speaker 3: did what you thought was right then, But going forward,

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Speaker 3: we can change the narrative. So when we get back

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Speaker 3: from the break, we're going to talk about how we

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Speaker 3: can connect with our own loved ones in two ways,

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Speaker 3: and I'll share a few more of those Winks from

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Speaker 3: Heaven stories, and we'll talk about how to live life fully,

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Speaker 3: so that we're all ready to cross that finish line

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Speaker 3: with a big smile looking at those people that have

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Speaker 3: come to greet us. We'll be right back. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. We've spent

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Speaker 3: our time together traveling through some of the incredible evidence

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Speaker 3: for the survival of consciousness. But now I want to

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Speaker 3: bring this all home to you, because all this evidence

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Speaker 3: in the world doesn't mean too much unless you can

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Speaker 3: feel it in your own heart, and I know you

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Speaker 3: want to connect with your loved ones. You might say,

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Speaker 3: I'm not a medium, I don't see visions, I don't

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Speaker 3: feel like I have any special gift. I want to

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Speaker 3: share something that changed my life. And if you remember,

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Speaker 3: I started out a complete skeptic on all of this

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Speaker 3: with a big ego. I didn't believe any of this.

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Speaker 3: What I discovered and what I've spent over twenty five

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Speaker 3: years still researching and sharing, is that the other side

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Speaker 3: communicates through our feelings and our imagination just because we

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Speaker 3: see something on that canvas in our mind doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: we are making it up. I used to think that

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Speaker 3: your imagination was cheating if I thought I imagined my

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Speaker 3: dad sitting in the room, that I was just making

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Speaker 3: it up to make myself feel better. But I had

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Speaker 3: a massive breakthrough during that first mediumship class years ago,

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Speaker 3: when the teacher told us to pretend to be a medium.

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Speaker 3: I sat down with a woman I had never met before.

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Speaker 3: I closed my eyes and decided to just invent a

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Speaker 3: man standing behind her. I described to her a fisherman

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Speaker 3: from Denmark by the name of Yon. I saw his

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Speaker 3: windburned skin and the big gap between his front teeth

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Speaker 3: and his blonde hair. I even imagined him, or so

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Speaker 3: I thought, coughing, and that he died of lung cancer.

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Speaker 3: I convinced myself I just made it all up and

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Speaker 3: I was telling a story. But when I opened my eyes,

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Speaker 3: this woman was crying. Why Because her grandfather's name was Yan,

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Speaker 3: and yes he was a fisherman in Denmark, and yes

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Speaker 3: he did die of lung cancer. And there are other details,

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Speaker 3: like being able to tell her mother that her dad

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Speaker 3: apologized because he never said I love you. Those are

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Speaker 3: the things that make me know that the afterlife is

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Speaker 3: real and that we are divine souls having a human experience.

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Speaker 3: So our imagination is like a bridge. It's the canvas

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Speaker 3: that the spirit world uses to paint pictures for us.

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Speaker 3: We do still have an imagination. Some of it is

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Speaker 3: us making it up, but they are able to put

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Speaker 3: thoughts and feelings within us. So how do we make

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Speaker 3: that connection. I want to give you two tools that

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Speaker 3: I've learned that I practice. The first one is from

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Speaker 3: the Wonderful dream expert doctor Janet Pete Alato. She talks

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Speaker 3: about something called the dream gate. It's simple yet powerful.

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Speaker 3: Before you go to sleep at night, when you're in

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Speaker 3: that day dreamy state, or when you're just waking up

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Speaker 3: in the morning in that same state, imagine a doorway

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Speaker 3: or a gate in your mind. Picture it clearly. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it's a gate in the garden or door in a house.

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Speaker 3: Make it a place that you love. Now, just allow

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Speaker 3: your loved one to be on that other side of

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Speaker 3: the gate. Don't force it, don't try to make them appear,

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Speaker 3: just allow it. So you're essentially jump starting a visit.

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Speaker 3: So picture them on the other side of the gate

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Speaker 3: or the other side of the door, and you can

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Speaker 3: open the door, you can open the gate. I recently

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Speaker 3: tried this with my dad. I pictured the gate in

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Speaker 3: my backyard and there he was, and that image moved

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Speaker 3: to him sitting at the kitchen table with me. He

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Speaker 3: was wearing his favorite black and white flannel shirt and

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Speaker 3: tan corduroy pants and the ball cap he used to wear.

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Speaker 3: Dad gave me the biggest hug and I can actually

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Speaker 3: feel the fabric of his shirt. When I woke up,

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Speaker 3: I really felt like my Dad had been there with me.

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Speaker 3: It was a real connection, and it all started with

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Speaker 3: that one simple thought at the gate. Doing this before

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Speaker 3: bed and thinking of your loved one is also a

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Speaker 3: great way to jumpstart a dream, and you may find

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Speaker 3: them appear in your dreams, but just remember if they're

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Speaker 3: crazy dreams and you feel uncomfortable or it's negative, that's

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Speaker 3: our own subconscious. But when you can remember the dream

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Speaker 3: clearly and when it's filled with love, that is a

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Speaker 3: dream visitation. So if we want more than a vision,

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Speaker 3: if you want a conversation. This brings me back to

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Speaker 3: the incredible work of psychology professor doctor Matthew McKay, who

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Speaker 3: would have never believed in the afterlife or any of this.

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Speaker 3: Before his son Jordan was tragically taken from him, Doctor

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Speaker 3: McKay was consumed with two questions, as his soul still

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Speaker 3: exists and is he okay. Doctor McKay discovered a way

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Speaker 3: to talk to his son Jordan that he calls channeled writing.

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Speaker 3: It's a way to push through that voice of doubt

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Speaker 3: that lives in each of our heads. He says that

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Speaker 3: in the spirit world, love is the air they breathe.

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Speaker 3: It is unconditional. But we come here to Earth to

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Speaker 3: learn how to love intentionally in the face of pain,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes that pain is the doubt we feel when

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Speaker 3: we try to connect. So here's the exercise doctor McKay

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Speaker 3: taught me. First, find a safe spot. Go to a

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Speaker 3: place where you won't be interrupted and that you feel comfortable. Two,

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Speaker 3: find a belonging or a representative of your loved one.

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Speaker 3: It could be something that belonged to them, like a

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Speaker 3: watch or a ring, or even writing their name on

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Speaker 3: a card. This is kind of like your spiritual address,

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Speaker 3: your WWW that tells the universe exactly who you're looking for.

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Speaker 3: Light a candle, take a deep breath, Visualize a golden

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Speaker 3: orb like a miniature sun. Very bright one about six

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Speaker 3: inches above your head. Now see that orb getting longer

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Speaker 3: and becoming a tube, a tube that connects all the

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Speaker 3: way to your loved one. Have a pen and paper ready,

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Speaker 3: or have your fingertips at your keyboard. Write down a question.

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Speaker 3: It could be how are you? Or what do you

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Speaker 3: want me to know? Next is the download, So just wait.

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Speaker 3: The answer will show up in your mind. It might

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Speaker 3: be a picture, a feeling, or just a sudden knowing.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just one word. Whatever it is, write it

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Speaker 3: down immediately, and then keep writing. And don't stop when

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Speaker 3: you doubt yourself, when you think, oh, I'm just making

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Speaker 3: this up, just say thank you doubt for sharing, and

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Speaker 3: keep writing. Our mind often tries to kick in, telling

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Speaker 3: us we're making it up, but just trust. Go right

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Speaker 3: back to that orb and that connection. Doctor McKay has

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Speaker 3: been doing this for fifteen years and he still says

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Speaker 3: that doubt pops in, but he pushes through it because

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Speaker 3: the love he feels from his son is worth it.

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Speaker 3: Matt's son, Jordan, told him something so beautiful across the veil.

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Speaker 3: He said that we don't have to be afraid of

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Speaker 3: the dark door of death, because when it opens, the

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Speaker 3: light of love takes us in and he told his dad,

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Speaker 3: I am with you, I am always with you, and friends,

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Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you they are with you. In

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Speaker 3: the beginning, it might seem like ninety nine percent you

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Speaker 3: these words that are coming out of your pen or

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Speaker 3: your fingertips. But in time you'll find that they have

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Speaker 3: practice working with you from their side, and more and

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Speaker 3: more it'll seem like their words. We can do that

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Speaker 3: exact same process and connect with our soul as well.

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Speaker 3: Did you know you have a divine soul that is

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Speaker 3: extremely intelligent. You can talk to your soul. You can

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Speaker 3: talk to your guides in the exact same way. And remember,

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Speaker 3: don't critique it as it's happening. In fact, never critique it.

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Speaker 3: Just look at it through the eyes of love and practice.

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Speaker 3: Now if you want to see what spirit communication looks

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Speaker 3: like when it's done with the highest integrity. If you

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Speaker 3: haven't seen it yet, we have a new film. I'm

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Speaker 3: the producer. It's now out on Apple TV. It's called

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Speaker 3: Evidence of the Afterlife Saving Evidential Mediumship. It follows my

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Speaker 3: dear friends Carrie McLeod and Phil Dike's evidential Mediums in

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Speaker 3: the UK. It's about how mediumship works, how it's possible

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Speaker 3: to communicate with the other side, how we use our imagination.

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Speaker 3: If you ever go to a medium, what to say

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Speaker 3: and what not to say, how to let them do

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Speaker 3: the work. Unfortunately we are in such pain of grief

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Speaker 3: when we normally look to get a medium reading. And

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Speaker 3: mediums should all be highly professionally trained. The bad news

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Speaker 3: is they aren't. That first medium class that I told

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Speaker 3: you about where I saw yan the fishermen in Denmark.

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Speaker 3: At the end of just three days, they gave me

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Speaker 3: a certificate and told me I could charge one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty dollars an hour and give people readings. And

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Speaker 3: I knew this wasn't real. I had no practice and

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Speaker 3: I didn't have any confidence. So unfortunately, there's plenty of

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Speaker 3: not so good mediums in the world. So check out

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Speaker 3: that film Evidence of the Afterlife. You can find a

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Speaker 3: link to it at my main page at We Don't

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Speaker 3: Die dot com. Go to a medium that is recommended

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Speaker 3: to you by somebody else, do your research. You can

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00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 3: email me. I can send you a list of people

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Speaker 3: that I know. You don't have to spend a lot

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Speaker 3: of money, and mediums should always give you that ten

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Speaker 3: minute guarantee that in the first ten minutes, if they're

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00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: not providing accurate evidence of your loved one, the reading

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Speaker 3: comes to an end and you don't pay Truth is

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Speaker 3: sometimes mediums can't tune in their receiver to the exact station,

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Speaker 3: but there might be another one that can. I want

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Speaker 3: to bring this back to also to that TV show

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Speaker 3: The Pit I was telling you about. I'm not recommending it,

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Speaker 3: although it's excellent, but it does have a lot of

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Speaker 3: blood in it because it's a hospital TV show. Those

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Speaker 3: four things before someone dies, or as you are with

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Speaker 3: people right now, the four things that matter most. I

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Speaker 3: love you, I thank you, I forgive you, will you

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Speaker 3: forgive me? If you take nothing else from today's show

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Speaker 3: than those four statements and use them first on yourself.

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Speaker 3: Forgive yourself for being oh whatever it is you don't

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Speaker 3: like about yourself, but thank yourself for having the courage

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Speaker 3: to look for the truth, for all the things that

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Speaker 3: you've done in your life to make a difference. Tell yourself,

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Speaker 3: I love you, And of course talk to others those

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Speaker 3: people in your life. We never know how long they're

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Speaker 3: going to be around. I love you, I thank you,

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Speaker 3: I forgive you, will you forgive me. Yeah, you don't

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Speaker 3: have to wait for someone to be in a hospice

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Speaker 3: bed to save them. Doctor Karen Wyatt said that once

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Speaker 3: we handle the fear of death, we actually handle the

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Speaker 3: fear of living. Are you playing it safe in your

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Speaker 3: life because you're afraid? Remember you are surrounded by love.

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Speaker 3: Take a few risks, go after your dreams. As Richard

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Speaker 3: Bach once said, don't be dismayed at goodbyes. A farewell

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Speaker 3: is necessary before we meet again, and meeting again after

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Speaker 3: moments or lifetimes is certain for those who are friends.

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Speaker 3: I hope these stories have given you some comfort again.

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Speaker 3: My website is we Don't Die dot com. If you

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Speaker 3: don't have a copy of my book yet and you'd

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Speaker 3: like a free PDF copy of We Don't Die, a

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Speaker 3: skeptics discovery of life after Death, you are welcome to it.

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Speaker 3: Just end you your name and email address. At the

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Speaker 3: bottom of the page you'll find the link to evidence

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Speaker 3: of the Afterlife film and also the other film we

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Speaker 3: did about researcher Sonja Ronaldi and I invite you to

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Speaker 3: come to one of our free Sunday gathering inspirational services.

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Speaker 3: It's on Zoom two pm New York time every single

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Speaker 3: Sunday Medium demonstration included, and they are all so powerful,

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Speaker 3: inspiring and it's fun and I would love to have

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Speaker 3: you there. So in closing, remember those four things. Go

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Speaker 3: out there, live life fully. Will you remember you are loved,

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Speaker 3: you are wise, you are divine soul, you are more

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Speaker 3: powerful than you know, and you're perfect. I'm Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to Shades of the

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Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal

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