1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: We with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, welcome to another episode of The Break. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be hosting today's show. Derek should be walking 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: in at any meme minute, who knows. Meg might be 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: walking out at any minute, who knows. But well, we'll 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: try to give you guys a good show today. We're 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: watching practice. We'll get into some of the things happening, 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: as well as some random fan questions that I received yesterday. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: How are you guys doing I'm so good, Age, I'm great, 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, that's good. You know who's not doing well? 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Some of these tight ends are here on the field. 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: They have a game to play this Saturday, and they've 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: only got one tight end practicing. So what's gonna happen here? Yeah, 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: that's the fun. The fun storylines of training camp is like, obviously, 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of the Giants game, Everything's fine. 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: Jason Witten's around and and Blake Jarwin and Dalton Schultz 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: should be back at some point. But when you're trying 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: to play a preseason game against the Texans and Marcus 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: Lucas is the only guy available to get snaps, that's 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: not great. Just trying to get on camera. Here there 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: we go, look magic, No, but serious. So Jason Witten's 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: taking a vet day right now, Dalton Schultz and Blake 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Jarwin are hobbled, and so there's literally one type. Do 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: you expect when I mean I don't. I wouldn't expect so, 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: But will you expect him to get more snaps? I 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: think you know they'll it goes and it gradually gradually increases. 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: So he played a few series the other night. He'll 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: probably play close to halftime. He might do a little 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: bit less because I think this is not going to 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: be an address rehearsal though now I think it's gonna 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: be the same as the Hawaii game, about fifteen snaps 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: or so for the for the starters. I don't think 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: they're treating it that way. And it sounds like Houston 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: is so expect a big w there. That is a 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: okay with party for Houston. Now. You know one thing though, 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: it seems like it's happening around the league. More and 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: more teams are just like not playing their starters. We 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: saw it last week, yes, with the with the Rams. 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: I just heard. I was riding in this morning and 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: I heard it was the Colts and somebody else that's 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: playing this week, and both teams are basically not playing 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: their starters at all. I mean like not at all, 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: And and it made me wonder, are more teams starting 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: to do this? Are the Cowboys gonna at some points 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: start doing this a little bit more? And rest just 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: not putting their guys out there, or if they put 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: them out there, it's for one or two series. There 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: is no more of the dress rehearsal game, like you 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: just said, what we've gotten used to. I mean, it 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: does change things a little because you start seeing these 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: injuries and teams start wondering is it worth to put 57 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: guys out there. I think it was Kyle Shanahan, the 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers coach that said the other day he 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: was like, I'd like it to be two games, Like 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: one game for my guys to knock the rust off 61 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: in another game to see the guys on the back 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: end of the roster, and I think that's what it's 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: trending toward. Honestly, I don't want to get too deep 64 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: in the weeds, but I think the whole thing stems from, like, 65 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, they charge fans for these games, and so 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: they want to keep the illusion of it being meaningful football. 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: And I think the coaches are just tired of it, 68 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: at least some of them. Yeah, this is nonsense, And 69 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: everybody would get more money if you did it that way. 70 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the teams get more money, the players would 71 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: get more money. I don't know if you're gonna play 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: eighteen games, but you mean that's probably what you would do. 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: You you'd play eighteen games, and so you'll have people 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of those games showing up. So, 75 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all gonna be about this next CBA. 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: That'll be one of the things they'll be negotiating is 77 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: whether they'll change up. You know, how many regular season 78 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: games they have, how many preseason games. I bet you 79 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: when when the new CBA's decided, whenever that is, I 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: bet you they'll decrease the number of preseason games. I 81 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: think they'd all be happy with that. I would love that. 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Let's getting into some questions. Yesterday we talked quite a 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: bit about Jalen's new contract extension, and I've received a 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: question in regards to Lyle Collins, which is a guy 85 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: that we've talked about, and you know, big question mark here, 86 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: is it possible for him to stay here? Would he 87 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: get more money somewhere else? With what happened with Jalen 88 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: and his contract? Do you feel that Lyle gives the 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys the same hometown love that Jalen gave for then 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: taking a chance on him when you know he fell 91 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: down the board during the draft. I don't know who 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: asked that question. It's a good question, though, and that's 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: what and that's one that the Cowboys are have their 94 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: fingers crossed that will will happen because they have done that. 95 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: They did reach out for him, They've already given him 96 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: one contract. They would like for him to do that. 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see if if that happens. But 98 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: either way, and Davis pointed this out before, either way 99 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: on Lyle Collins, even the discounted deal for a hometown 100 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: discount not breaking the bank, is still gonna flirt with 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the range of what Tyrant Smith is making he might 102 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: create another issue there, but there hopeful of that. That's 103 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: one guy that they're thinking if they're going to get 104 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: a hometown deal, could be him, because it won't be 105 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: MALIEK Collins. He's got the same agent as Dak. He's 106 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: focused on something else right now, and which you know 107 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: as he probably should be focused on something else. Right. Oh, 108 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: I thought you'd say Malik was functually something else, right, Sorry, 109 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: I mean, if Malik's focused on maximizing his payday, I 110 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: can't blame the guy. That's for somebody that's battled so 111 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: many injuries. I mean, yeah, if he can go out 112 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: and have if he looks as good during the season 113 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: as he does right now, he will be in line 114 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: for a pretty sizable raise. That's still even if you 115 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: get even if Lyle takes the hometown discount like you 116 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: were saying, and that number is flirting with where they 117 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: can't keep, I wouldn't assume they could keep. They can 118 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: keep giving these big deals to that number of players, right, Well, 119 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: go ahead, Connor, I mean, Connor mcgovernan's looked really good 120 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: here at camp. He hasn't done anything, and that's something 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: that you wish that you could start thinking, Okay, we 122 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: got I know what we have here. I still think 123 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, you've got solid depth in the line. I 124 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: think Suefilo is a player that you could keep for 125 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: a while, and Connor might be might be a right tackle. 126 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: So I could see them saying, we just can't pay everyone, 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: and here's one that we've drafted well. And you know, 128 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen just took a home down hometown discount. 129 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I was wrong about that. I said it yesterday, So 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: anything's possible. But you're absolutely right, even a discount would 131 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: be a huge deal. So I don't I have a 132 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: hard time thinking they can find the space for him. 133 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: And on top of that, Lyle already did that, like 134 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: he took a discounted contract to kind of make some 135 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: of his money back. And especially with the money he's 136 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, lost from everything that happened to him in 137 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: the draft process, I would just assume he wants to 138 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: go see what he can find on the open market 139 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: because it will probably be a lot of money. And 140 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: here's another question I would have for you guys. I 141 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: think Lyle is a good tackle. I think he's a 142 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: good right tackle. Do you think he's such a great 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: right tackle that you have to spend the money rather 144 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: than going back and saying, let's take a young guy 145 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: and develop a young guy in that position. I think 146 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: you're right about that this. I think you just play 147 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: this year out. Let's see what Tyrn Smith does left 148 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: side healthwise? Is he Is he good? I mean he's 149 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: still got issues, back issues. I mean this team's got 150 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: back issues now, you know. I mean think about it, 151 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: he's got some back issues that keeping him out at times. 152 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Zack Martin's that hasn't practiced in a while. I was thinking. 153 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about the officsive line right now, 154 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: just the line. I mean, so there's a lot of 155 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: questions to be answered. Yeah, getting him locked up would 156 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: be good if you if you can get it. I 157 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: will say this and again I said that yesterday too. 158 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: It's like you don't know everything that motivates these players 159 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: all the time. And if there's a guy kind of 160 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: like Tyrn Smith who like doesn't want to be bothered 161 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: by all that type of stuff, Lyle strikes me as 162 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: that type of guy. Like he's a he is a 163 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: low key guy. He's close with his mom and his 164 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: brother who live in Louisiana. I think he likes how 165 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: close Dallas is to get out to the nature and 166 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: fish and all that. Guy he doesn't. He doesn't strike 167 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: me as a dude who wants to move to Buffalo 168 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: just because they're offering him a lot of money. Point somebody. Honestly, 169 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: that was not intended as a shot at Cole Beasley. 170 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: I was not intended as a shot for Buffalo. Well, 171 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like a guy from Baton Rouge, Louisiana 172 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: probably doesn't want to live in upstate New York. If 173 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: I had to guess, Okay, that's all I'm saying. All right, 174 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: you know anyway, well, yeah, I mean, like you said, 175 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: upstate New York and and you know these negotiations, I'll 176 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: just I'll just say I got a chance to talk 177 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: to some people yesterday, and there's so many other things 178 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: involved with the negotiations, and and state income tax has 179 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: been has been mentioned a lot in the negotiations. And 180 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: it's funny, it was it was Golf and Wentz have 181 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Wentz has a contract. Golf didn't get the 182 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: second contract, but not not yet. But if it's funny 183 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: if they had the exact same contract, apparently from what 184 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: I was told, golf would make ten million dollars less 185 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: than wins who they still have a state income tax there, 186 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: So like California is crazy, yeah, and so that's one 187 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: of the factors that like, you know, Dak, they're just 188 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: looking at this list from all the websites to say, 189 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: these are the highest paid players. But like where are 190 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: you taking home? And that's what the Cowboys are trying 191 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: to fight here. And there's other issues too, we can 192 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: talk about later about the about guaranteed money and stuff 193 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: like that that are factoring into the deal. I just 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 1: looked it up in California and state income tax for 195 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: the highest earners, which these guys would fall into thirteen 196 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: point three percent. That's just your state income tax. That 197 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: doesn't include whatever federal government taxes. You know they always 198 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: so that does make a huge difference, right. We always say, like, man, 199 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: it's it's so crazy, how like everybody on the Cowboys 200 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: roster lives in Dallas, because that's not like that everywhere else. 201 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Is it really that crazy? Non? You think that it 202 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: helps you keep a lot of money. By and by 203 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: the way, former player, it's a ton of former players 204 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: that didn't even play for Dallas, move here and want 205 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: to live in the state of Texas, whether there's Dallas, Houston, Austin, whatever, 206 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: because there is no state income tax. It makes a difference. 207 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: You know, the other guy that's looking for a contract 208 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: as Byron Jones. But I'm tired of the contract talk, 209 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: so let's move on from that for a little bit. 210 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: Let's talk about his injury. Where is it ad right now? 211 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: I know fans keep asking is he really going to 212 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: be ready for week one? We actually like, we actually 213 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: saw something with him Today's um what you see he's 214 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: doing well. He's been doing rehab, but he had his 215 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: uniform on, he had his helmet on and his in 216 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: his jersey, and he's still not doing football stuff. But 217 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: that seems to me like a step in the right direction. 218 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: If he's trying to get used to moving in his 219 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: uniform again, that seems like a good sign. Garrett said, 220 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: he's still a little bit away from getting off of pup, 221 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: but maybe that'll happen in the next week or two. 222 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: But everything I've heard is that he's still on track 223 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: to try to be ready for the opener. On the field, 224 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: we saw Sean Lee doing some things. Speaking of the 225 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: linebackers group. Do you think that the Cowboys have the 226 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: best linebacker combot in the NFL? Yeah? Oh, I know 227 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: there's somebody that can. I mean, who Carolina's got somebody. 228 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: It's not Thomas Davis anymore. Most um. From one to 229 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: three it was somebody else though that I saw somebody 230 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: put it something together on Twitter. It seemed like they 231 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: were one or two. Forget Carolina, I mean Bobby Wagner 232 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: and kJ right, are you that's what it was? But 233 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: that was the one that they say was the best, 234 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: and I agree that's probably the best one. From one 235 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: to three, though, you probably got the best Jalen Layton 236 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: and Sean It's hard to find. I mean, you got 237 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Pro bowlers or damn near pro bowlers at all three spots. 238 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: It's not bad, are they? Okay? Again, Sorry, we're going 239 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: all over the map with this. Okay, Are there any 240 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: injuries right now that worry you? For Game one? Byron, 241 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: all the all those guys, Byron, Tyrone Crawford, I just 242 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: where what's he doing. I'm just worried about Tyrone because 243 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that I don't know what his role 244 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: is even gonna be, Like, he's not I don't know that. 245 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: They don't have like, they don't feel like they they're 246 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: fine to be able to roll out Game one one 247 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: without him. Byron immediately steps in and starts Game one 248 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: if he's healthy. Yeah, I would assume Tyrone. I mean, 249 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: this is so, this is a shorts and shells practice, 250 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: as you can see from the monitor. But Tyrone's down there. 251 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: He's so, he took yesterday off. But part of him 252 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: and Demarcus's plan is that they're both out here today, 253 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: so they're ramping up. But I mean, until I see 254 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: him playing football, it just gives me pause. Let's let's 255 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what and if you're not 256 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: getting to watch, if you're just watching the podcast or 257 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: listen to the podcast, sorry, but we're getting to watch this. 258 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Number five is a guy tearing Christian, kind of an 259 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: interesting story, and they're playing him all over the place. 260 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: They're trying to play him all over the place here, 261 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I have y'all seen two I've 262 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: seen two drops in a row now from him. Yeah, 263 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: so this you know this is a fourth quarterback? Can 264 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: you do everything? Return kicks, play running back, receiver? Explain 265 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: why they're doing that though, it's not so that they 266 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: can line him up on Sundays, explain what the purpose 267 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: isn't doing that. Yeah, Jamial Showers is probably not going 268 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: to be on the practice squad again. And you want 269 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: a guy that can do multiple things. He's a perfect 270 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: scout team player if he can do it. If heall 271 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: run the ball, be another team's Russell Wilson at times, 272 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: be another running back, scap back, just do a bunch 273 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: of different things if you can do it, and they're 274 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: trying to see if he can do it, just off 275 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: the small sample sides that you're watching there, it's yeah, right, 276 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: because the thing about the thing to consider here, and 277 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to make sure fans understand. 278 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: The thing to consider he is when you think about 279 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: the roster and the number of players you have, you 280 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: don't always have a ton of guys that can get 281 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: out there and their purpose that week is to basically 282 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: emulate what they're gonna face. And so if you can 283 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: get a guy that has this multidimensional has some speed, 284 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: has some quickness, can run routes, can play quarterback. Now 285 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: what you can do is you can take that guy 286 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: and whoever you're playing that week. If you have a 287 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: dynamic player or a quarterback, maybe he's the Scout team 288 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: quarterback that way. If you have a dynamic player at receiver, 289 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: maybe he's a Scout team receiver that week. It gives 290 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: you some opportunities to kind of move him around. If 291 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: you got a player that you're plan that really is 292 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: a that can play multiple spots, maybe you can use 293 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: him in that way. That's why a player like him 294 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: becomes valuable to you, if he has a lot of 295 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: different skills. What's going to be interesting is you see 296 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: the screen here at number three, Mike White. I can't 297 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: imagine him making the team. I can't imagine him being 298 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: on showing anything where you're like, we've got to hang 299 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: on to him. And I can't really see another team 300 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: saying we'll take him and put him on our on 301 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: our roster. So I think he would be practice squad eligible. 302 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: He would to come back. Do you need two quarterbacks 303 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: now on your practice squad? You could make an argument 304 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: that tarn Christian could be more valuable to you because 305 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: of all the different stuff he can do. Yeah, you 306 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: do you have room for two quarterbacks on your practice squad? 307 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember the Cowboys ever doing that. Maybe they have, 308 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: but Mike White is purely a quarterback, whereas tarn Christian 309 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: could conceivably do five or six different things for you. 310 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: So that's definitely something to watch. I said, White throws 311 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: an interception to Jeff. Was that mikey? Uh wait? What? Oh? Yeah? 312 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: That was that. Let's go ahead and take a break. 313 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: When we come back, let's discuss how these young guys 314 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: on the d line are developing at this point. While 315 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: a player can look good on paper, it's one he's 316 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: out on the field that you really find out what 317 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: he's made of. 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We know that there 352 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: are some of other veteran guys on the D line 353 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 1: that our angel is still recovering. With that happening, I'm 354 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: glad everybody gets to see that. Yeah they do. I'm 355 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: trying to see they see the other end of it. 356 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to integrate my social with my radio with 357 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: all that good stuff. I'll tag you don't worry Amber, 358 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: thank you. All right. Well, with that being said, these 359 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: guys being now younger guys getting more time to practice, 360 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, how have you seen their development and 361 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: how how can you award winning? Thanks? How do you 362 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: how do you feel that their development is going at 363 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: this point? I see some fans are are kind of 364 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: concerned that during the games they haven't necessarily seen much 365 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: happening from the D line, and these younger guys not 366 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: many flashes going on. So how do you feel at 367 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: this point I disagree with that though. I think I 368 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: have seen those guys flash. Wow, I have seen those 369 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: guys flash. I mean, you know, Walker and and I 370 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: mean they've been there. I think you know, you look 371 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: at you look at the defensive line. Defensive line to me, 372 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: has probably been the area where there's been more flash 373 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: of any position that you could say in the preseason. 374 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think those guys have flashed quite 375 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: a bit. What do you guys there? I mean Nick 376 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: has been in love with Jail and Jelks since we 377 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: got to camp, and he hasn't given him any reason 378 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: not to be. I mean, yeah, they all kind of 379 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: take take their turns. Ye, Ricky Walker has really shown 380 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: up since the game started. Um, if I'm just going again, 381 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, you can form your own opinions based on 382 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: watching it. But if I'm just going from having conversations 383 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: with people like they love Joe Jacks Joe, Yes, they 384 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: really like him. And I know we're talking about defensive line, 385 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: but it would a guy just had the interception and 386 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I can just tell you Donovan Wilson on the team, 387 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make that like that. And I 388 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: said that too, and I was like, yeah, it looks 389 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: like he's gonna make it, and it was like, no, no, 390 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: he's on the team. Yeah. Bill Parcells did that one time, 391 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: like two thousand and four. There's a linebacker out of 392 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: Texas named Kalen Thornton. I don't know if you remember. 393 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: He ended up having micro factor Jalen dancing right now. 394 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna be on the team too. Yeah. But but 395 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Bill just said told the whole he was like, he's 396 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: he's on the team. He was just like real emphatic 397 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: and that I kind of got that out of day 398 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: A nice catch by Cedric Wilson. I got that from 399 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: that Donovan Um. It was Cooper brushed it through that 400 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson on the team. So if you wanted Darren 401 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Thompson cave On Fraser, they can figure that out. I 402 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: love No, cavan is the one you're gonna be watching on. Like, 403 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: if you think about this whole roster and you're like, 404 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: what guys am I gonna be looking for when I 405 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: look at cuts, that's the name I'm gonna be lying. 406 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: That's nervous. I am nervous for my guy Cavon, But 407 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not Chris Richard by any stretch. But 408 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, he's got plenty of growing to do. But 409 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: like he looks a lot more comfortable in coverage than 410 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: your average sixth round and rookie. He might be pads 411 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: off on the Thursday night game. Really yeah, he might be. 412 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean he got enough bodies for that. That's a 413 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: pretty big Okay, we don't need him getting injured. See 414 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: your favorite, he's your favorite rookie safety since a MODD. 415 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: Dixon wre thirty seven? Is he gonna he's gonna like 416 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: he was thirty six? Actually? I think he was. I 417 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: think you're right. Don't get us started on numbers hopefully. Sorry, 418 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: can we just messed it up and we forgot s. 419 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: We messed it up bad. Sorry about that. But Donovan 420 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: Wilson's been great. Well, give me a quick prediction. So 421 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: we've seen how good the defense has been all through 422 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: all training camp. They I think that they've been better 423 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: than the offense overall. I would agree with that, and 424 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: we've seen picks going on here and there. So would 425 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: you say that the defense would have more than five 426 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: interest this year? Freaking better? They better? Is that? How 427 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: they had more than that? Last year, right, I don't remember, honestly, 428 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: I know well, I know let and Woods tied, Leyton 429 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: and Xavierwoods tied for the team lead with two And 430 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: that's just not good enough, not first of all, not 431 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: for how much talent they have, and second of all, 432 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: not for what we've seen. Yeah, these guys don't even 433 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: really have a pass rush right now. DeMarcus Lawrence is 434 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: not practiced, YadA, YadA, YadA, and they're getting their hands 435 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: on everything. Like if I was trying, if I was 436 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: trying to sell a pessimistic Cowboys fan on why this 437 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: they should be excited that the team will be better, 438 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: I would probably say because it looks like the back 439 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: seven of this defense has taken a step. Everybody from 440 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods to Cheeto to Jordan Lewis to Leyton and 441 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: Jalen don't look like they've experienced any kind of drop 442 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: off during the offseason, and they just look like they're 443 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: ready to ball out and taking a step in an 444 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: area that they haven't consistently been good at, which is 445 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: taking the ball away. That's something that it looks like 446 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: from what we've seen so far, even there even just 447 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: getting their hands on it, which yeah, like interceptions are king, 448 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: but just even getting your hand on the football is 449 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: so important, and they've been doing that all through camp. Yep, all, 450 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three names. You need to tell 451 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: me who makes the roster, who goes to the practice squad, 452 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: and who you say goodbye to? All Right, all right, 453 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: look Gifford, Donovan A. Lumba, and then Devin Smith. Who 454 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: do you keep on the roster out of those three? 455 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's you're saying by it to anybody 456 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: on that and that group. If you had to, well, okay, 457 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: well I'm gonna be I'm gonna be really annoying right 458 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: now and say I don't like Luke Gifford's not technically 459 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: technically gonna be on the roster because I think they'll 460 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: probably I was injured reserve when the season starts. But 461 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: Luke Gifford is going to make the team, like if 462 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: he was going somewhere, it would have happened by now. 463 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: So he's on the team. I doubt he'll be on 464 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: the fifty three because they'll move him to IR. Donovan 465 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: Alumba is tough. I'm I lean toward thinking he'll be 466 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: on the team because you can't risk having him go 467 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: on waivers. Yeah, who is the last? Oh, Devin Smith? 468 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: Those are both really like those. I said this the 469 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: other day, like the coaching staff has probably made up 470 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: their mind about forty of these guys, you know, like 471 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: they know they know it might even be forty five, 472 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: Like there might only be six spots where they're still 473 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: not sure. And I think Devin Smith and Donovan Olumba 474 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: are two of those though, like they gotta keep this 475 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: going all the way through. I think both of those 476 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: guys will play both of these preseason games. And I 477 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: would think the interesting thing about those two players, Smith 478 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and Alumba. The reason that one of them might be 479 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: here is because of speed. The reason one of them 480 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: might not be is because of speed Alumba. It can 481 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: get his hands on the ball and all that kind 482 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. But if you put them out against elite players, 483 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna be exposed. And that's the fear with him. 484 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: He just can't run. He doesn't run like the other 485 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: guys and mace up for it with size and length, 486 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: but he's also playing against getting third receivers on this team. 487 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: I think if you put them in games, even in 488 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: special teams, I think the speed is a problem. Devin 489 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Smith the other, on the other hand, that's what's keeping 490 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: them in the equation is the speed. So it's interesting 491 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: that those two guys are being paired up like this, 492 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: and I think what they say speed kills right, what's 493 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: interesting comes down to it. I would say Devin Smith 494 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: over Alumba if that's the last guy, I think, I 495 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: think you go that route. I don't want to diminish 496 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: anything that Alumba's either. I mean, no, no no, But what 497 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is, you know, we we say this 498 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: all the time. It's like every team's got a John 499 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: Vay Johnson, Like every team's got a fast receiver that 500 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: they don't think they can stash. But every team's probably 501 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: got a talented cornerback who needs some sort more seasoning too. 502 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: So it wouldn't surprise me if he did get through 503 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: the practice squad. But Alumba, I will say this though, 504 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that what I've seen from him during 505 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: training camp in the preseason, I don't know that I've 506 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: seen that many times with the Cowboys when you get 507 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: to the depth of their cornerback. So I don't know 508 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: that every team has that in camp you might be right. 509 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to find good cornerback talent, and 510 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: I would I hear what you're saying, Nick, and I 511 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: agree with it. I would love to see for myself 512 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: what he looks like against some of that elite competition. 513 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: I would love for him to throw him out there 514 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: against one, because the way I look at a lumba, 515 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: if I'm keeping him, I'm not keeping him so much 516 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: for this year. I'm keeping him because I don't know 517 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Byron Jones next year. I don't 518 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen with Anthony Brown next year. I 519 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: want to have some insurance so that if I need 520 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: to have a guy kind of step in, I've developed 521 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: him to the point where he's ready to step in 522 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: by next year and be a guy that's contributing a 523 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: lot more if you feel like he's good enough to 524 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: be able to handle that elite talent. Yeah, and then 525 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: the question is more about Mike Jackson round pick. But 526 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: I think at this point, I think you can you know, 527 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: I think you we're gonna find out this year of 528 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: these what this team really thinks about their draft picks. 529 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: From first round picks, all the way down to seventh 530 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: round picks. And so was that Daniel Ross that just 531 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: swatted the ball out of Mike White's hand in the 532 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: pocket like that. I think it was just brutalizing this 533 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: third quarterback. Yeah, it's not great today. Um, that's a 534 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: good that's a good point though. I mean, you know, 535 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: taco Taco's not safe. And I'm curious about Mike Jackson too, 536 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: because they love holding onto their draft picks. They do 537 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: not cut rookie draft picks very often. But but Donovan 538 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: Olumba has clearly had a better camp than him. Clearly, 539 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: I see a lot of people keep asking about Randy 540 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: Gregory and what's going on with him. They understand that 541 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: he has not applied to be reinstated yet. Here's Derek's 542 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: favorite question. Is there a reason why? That is Derek's 543 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: favorite question? You never want to see that text on 544 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: your phone. So is there a reason why we haven't 545 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: heard about Randy's amp? That's usually it's the set. Like 546 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: I said this before, like I wish I had more 547 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: for y'all on Randy Gregory, Like it's it's always so 548 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: convoluted with him, there's always like five different storylines. You know, 549 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: like somebody will report that he's applying for reinstatement and 550 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: then the truth is that he's actually organizing his application 551 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: for in statement. I really don't know, and it's been quiet. 552 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: I honestly. I talked to somebody before we went to 553 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: camp and I was like, you think we'll see Randy 554 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: while we're in California? And that person was like, I 555 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: think we'll see him. Maybe not on the football field, 556 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: but I think we'll see him. So that clearly didn't happen. 557 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: So I'm just being around the team, I guess, but 558 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: clearly that hasn't happened. And no, in this case, no 559 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: news seems like bad news. So I don't know. And 560 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are asking about that 561 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: because Josh Gordon just got reinstated, but man, what with 562 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: ten days or however many days it is until they 563 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: cut the roster. Like, I'm just assuming we're not going 564 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: to see him in the near future, and if he does, 565 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's worried about Zeke's you know, conditioning, and 566 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: what's he going to be like when he comes back. 567 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about Randy Gregory? I know, 568 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: I do. I know from talking to people that he's 569 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: he's working or he was the last time I checked 570 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: in on it. Like he's got trainers and stuff and 571 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: he's not out of you know, he should he should 572 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: be in shape. Obviously that's so much different than actually 573 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: playing football. But I think he's been working. I just 574 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: don't know what that means as far as when he 575 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: might be able to come. Josh, Gordon, Gregory and Zeke 576 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: they're all they're all the same in the fact that 577 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: they've been called freaks before, athletic freaks of nature, and 578 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: they if anybody can do not be around the team 579 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: and come back and kind of get themselves involved, they 580 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: can do it. I don't know how effective they'll be, 581 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: but it would be fun. It would be fun if 582 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: he came back. I just it's one of those things 583 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: where I got to see it to believe it's going 584 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: to happen. And he's also had a position where you 585 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: can sometimes afford to go to come in and go 586 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: get the quarterback. You line him up one third down 587 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: and say just go get that guy. If he got 588 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: real secret to where he's right, if he got let's 589 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: hypothetically not saying anything, but if he hypothetically got reinstated 590 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: the week of the Giants game, he would be rushing 591 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: the passer. By the Dolphins game, which is week three, 592 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: like two weeks after that, they'd be like, yeah, we're 593 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: gonna give them eight snaps. Robert Quinn coming off a suspension. 594 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: Oh see, that goes back to the whole. That would 595 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: be fun thing, That would be fun. Let's go ahead 596 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: and take our final break when we come back at 597 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: one point, shoot the Cowboys consider trading seek back to 598 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: the break. It can be hard to find the right 599 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: resource for learning about important financial matters. You search how 600 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: to build savings, you end up reading about the one 601 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: weird ingredient from supermarkets that can make you taller. 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Back to the break, Welcome back. 644 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are stretching on the fields. They've ended their 645 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: practice for this the final practice for this week before 646 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: they face the Tech Sands at and T Stadium this Saturday. Now, 647 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: I have a few Zeke questions for you guys. You 648 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: left us with a doozy right one. Fans want to 649 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: know at one point should the Cowboys start considering trading Zeke? 650 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: A point? At no point? Why wouldn't. I mean, you 651 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: seem kind of that fool over there, and I am yeah. 652 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: If you say at no point, walk me walk me 653 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: through this, I mean, you're right, I guess there is 654 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: a point. But first of all, I still don't believe 655 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss games, right, agree with you? I would 656 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: have to be It would have to happen first before 657 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm even thinking about it, um multiple and then and 658 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: then what's what what price are you going to get 659 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: it for it? Especially in the middle of the season. 660 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: And you know, at that point, let's say, okay, as 661 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: Zeke has missed like six games, it's obvious he's not 662 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: going to report, and honestly, that would probably damage the 663 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: relationship here beyond repair. So do you do it in 664 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: the middle of the season before the trade deadline? Could 665 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: you get somebody to give you a first round pick 666 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: for Zeke like you did with Amari Cooper? So here's 667 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: the deal. It ultimately will depend too on how stubborn 668 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys want to be and what I mean by 669 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: that is, let's say you get let's say that picture 670 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: you just paint is accurate. It's gonna be miss six 671 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: games at this point. And let's say, by the way, 672 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys are still doing pretty well. They they're running games decent, 673 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: too good to better. Maybe it's better and their team's winning. 674 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: I almost wonder if the Cowboys look at it like, 675 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: unless we get an offer that blows our socks off, 676 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: just out of principle, so other players don't try this later, 677 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna let you sit. And if you want to 678 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: sit for the next two to three years, we'll let 679 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: you sit for the next two to three years while 680 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: we own your rights. You can show up if you choose. 681 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: If you don't, you can sit at home. Either way 682 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: your only two choices, or to play for us or 683 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: not play football at all. And I wonder if they 684 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: would be that hardcore in a situation like that and 685 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: just be like, unless we get a great offer, we're 686 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: not we're not dealing with the tone that's coming from 687 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: the Jones family recently suggests that they might be willing 688 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: to do that. In my opinion, but that and I 689 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: guess that's my thing is like nobody's gonna give you 690 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: a high enough price to make it worth it. You 691 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like somebody gives you a one, 692 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: it's worth it. It's somebody gonna give you a one, 693 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: maybe not knowing no. I mean, if you're trading for Zeke, 694 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: you are doing so with the understanding that you have 695 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: to give him a new contract, because that's why he's 696 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: not here in the first book. I get all that, 697 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: and I agree with you that it's not likely. I'm saying. 698 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 1: What I do know is that they're thirty two teams 699 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: in this league, and often they do things. One of 700 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: them decides to do some things that I'm like, that's 701 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: a brain dead And you're okay, you're right because AG asked, 702 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: at what point do you do it? And I guess, 703 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: if it's mid season and he's not here and somebody 704 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: wants to give me a one, then I will do it. 705 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: And I guess the reason why I said there's no 706 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: point is because I don't see that. I also don't 707 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: see Zeke missing games. I'll say it for a ten 708 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: millionth time, so I'm just not even fretting about it. Oh, 709 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: we shall see all right. Back at training camp, we 710 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: listen to a lot of his teammates talk about how 711 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: they understand what's going on and they support his business. 712 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: You know, now that fans are starting to kind of 713 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: turn on this whole thing, do you think that his 714 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: teammates are maybe starting to turn on him as well? 715 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: At this point? I think I think his teammates probably 716 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: approached a lot like I do. Like he's handling his business. 717 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: He's trying to get a new contract. I think as 718 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: guys who would like new contracts of their own and 719 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: understand the business of the NFL. I think they respect that. 720 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: I think the only way it could turn is if 721 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: he's not here when the games start. I think you're 722 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: probably talking about something different than then sorry nobody. But 723 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: if he's not here for games, then you're like, well, 724 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: now you're affecting my ability to like I'm trying to 725 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: win games, play well, reach the playoffs, and improve not 726 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: just my team standing but my lot in life. And 727 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: you are messing with that if you're not there for games. 728 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's when players would get mad. I 729 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: agree with that, but I think there's a caveat to that. 730 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: I think that doesn't happen by week one if he's 731 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: not here, because like I said, I think they play 732 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: the game. If they win the game, and running games good, 733 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: everything looks pretty good. I don't I think they say 734 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: handling your business, man, you're handling your business because again, 735 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: it's not affecting my business. Right now, Let's say that 736 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't show up and they go on a three 737 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: game losing street to start the season and the running 738 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: game is atrocious. Yeah, Now, I think you can have 739 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: a situation where people in the locker room start saying, dude, 740 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: you ain't helping us, Like, if you ain't helping us, 741 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: then you need to either you need to do something 742 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: different because your responsibility is to the team and you're 743 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: not handling your response. And it's I mean, the same 744 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: thing with Levion Bell, like all those guys had his 745 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: back until he didn't show up when it mattered. And 746 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: literally I don't remember who it was, but like guys 747 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: on the Steelers were like, he told us he'd be 748 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: here for the offensive lineman talking about it and they're like, 749 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: he told us he'd be here when it mattered, and 750 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: he's not here. Yeah, And that's when you run the 751 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: risk of making your teammates mad. I don't think they 752 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: care right now, I really don't we DeMarcus Lawrence, and 753 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: I respect it. He did his own thing where he 754 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: held off on getting shoulder surgery because he knew that 755 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: would give him leverage. Like these guys know, you gotta 756 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: do what you gotta do when you're you know, the 757 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: at best, your career might last ten years. They understand that. Derek, 758 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned the three game losing streak, ce or No, 759 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: do you see the Cowboys possibly going there without Zeek? No? 760 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: The teams that they're playing the first three games of 761 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: the season, I think they got even without Zeke. I 762 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: think they got more talent than those teams, so I 763 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: think they should be able to be Okay. Maybe they 764 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: don't win them all three I doubt very seriously, they 765 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: go oh and three to open the season. If they 766 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: go oh and three against those teams to open the season, 767 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long, I wander long year. I 768 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: bet Zeke is privately miffed at the start of the 769 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: schedule so weak. He's like, why can't we start with 770 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: like Saints Packers? Yeah, because that next the next four 771 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: after that, Oh yeah, that's when you're like, oh wow, 772 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna be that's gonna be a tough comfort competition. 773 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I run the risk of sounding like a home 774 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: but they should. They should be good enough to go 775 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: three and oh against New York Washington in Miami without Zeke. 776 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: They should be able to win all three of those 777 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: games without Zeke. I don't know if they will. Washington's 778 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: usually pretty dramatic, like division games are usually Washington's hard, 779 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: and it's it's on the road that'll be hard. At 780 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: the same time, like since Dak got here, what they're 781 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: they're five and one against Washington during Dak's tenure, and 782 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: I don't think they had Zeke for all of those like, 783 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: but it seems to be those are hard games. It's 784 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: not like they're always tough, but you usually win. Like 785 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: they should beat those three teams without And by the way, 786 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: you're playing in one of those games, you're playing a 787 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. That'll be a second game in Washington. That's 788 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So again, you should have every advantage 789 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: to be able to be successful. If it's not Dwayne Haskins, 790 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: then it's case Keenom. You should I mean, if this 791 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: is the top five defense, you should be able to 792 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: beat case Keenom. So I think they're I think they're okay. 793 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm not worrying. That's the part that should worry in 794 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: my opinion, if I were Zeke in his camp, that 795 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: would worry me because if I'm thinking about holding out games, 796 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: the perception of my value diminishes with every win they get, 797 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: and especially if the running game looks pretty good, right 798 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: every for everyone those fourteen yard touchdown runs it Tony 799 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: Poller has that he had last week. Ye, his his 800 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: his leverage diminishes a bit, at least in public perception. Yeah, 801 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: I just I have to see it to believe that 802 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be willing to do that, because, yeah, I 803 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: think it would involve I think he would have to 804 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: sit out for five or six weeks to genuinely make 805 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: his point. And I just don't. I don't see it. 806 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough, all right, shoot him? Okay? Final 807 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: question or well do the final question? Alright? Should Amari 808 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: Cooper sign before the season in case Michael Gallup develops 809 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: into a number one quality receiver? Do you think that 810 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: Gallup's development could affect, at the end of the day, 811 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: how the Cowboys designed to handle a Mari's contract. I 812 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: saw somebody asked that the other day. One, I don't 813 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: think so, because one, okay Zeke or no Zeke. This 814 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: is a run oriented team with a quarterback that I 815 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: think is going to run more. You've got Jason Witten, 816 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper theoretically should play for you. You've got Randall Cobble. Like, 817 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: even if Michael Gallup is as good as I think 818 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: he will be, he's not gonna catch like even sixty 819 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: passes this year probably, like there's just not enough football 820 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: to go around. But on top of that, like the 821 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: trade for Amari Cooper only makes sense if you sign 822 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: him up long term, like it that's the only way 823 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Because so you're gonna give up a 824 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: first round pick, which means you have control of him 825 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: for five years. Like Layton vander esh is going to 826 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: be playing for you for cheap for at least three, 827 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: if not five years, because you hit on him in 828 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: the draft. If you don't let if you don't resign 829 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: a Marie Cooper, you got what twenty games out of 830 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: him and then let him go. So I know it's 831 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of money to give the guy, but it's 832 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: just a forfeit of a draft pick. If you don't 833 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: keep him around here long term. And I don't know 834 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: why you wouldn't want to. Like he's a good character guy, 835 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: he's obviously a good ballplayer. Like I have no problem 836 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: signing him to a long term deal, So I that 837 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: would be strange to me if they just decided they 838 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. Derek agrees with that. Cool 839 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: cool beans very well. All right, guys, this is all 840 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: the time we have for today. I know there's gonna 841 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: be another show tomorrow. The Cowboys won't be practicing, but 842 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: we'll be here for another show. You break back in 843 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: the studio. That'll be fun. Get some nice acne there. 844 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much. This has been 845 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: How is it standing for Derek you're hosting? 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