1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, I appreciate you joining us as always. You 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: guys are phenomenal. You're the best in the world. You're 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: watching the Richard Sherman Podcast. But if you could do 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: me a huge favor and hit that sub button, it 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: would be greatly appreciated. You would do a service for 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: your boys. SHERV And I'll tell you what. I got 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: your back, you got my back, all love. Welcome back 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And what another great week 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: for the Seattle Seahawks. Mitchell. They go on the road 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: and do what they do best on the road. They 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: played great defense, they ran the ball really well Zach 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: Sharberney eighteen carris for one hundred and ten yards in 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and they come away with the victory, holding 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers to ten points. A great day by 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: them on a week where they found out they had 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: six Pro Bowlers this year, Jackson Smith and Jigba Witherspoon. 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold makes another great for him. Rashid Shahid makes 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl after making an incredible impact this season, 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: especially last week versus the Rams and DeMarcus Lawrence, one 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: of the tone setters for this defense. Makes yet another 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in a season where his stats weren't the flashiest, 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: but his impact was multiple touchdowns this season, multiple force fumbles, 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: just huge impact on the culture and the energy of 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: this team. It's been phenomenal. But in this game, the 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: Seahawks looked like they should. Obviously, there was a little 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: bit of a sputtery start by Sam Donold early on. 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: He had the interception, he had the fumble, two turnovers 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: in the game, and again you want to get those 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: things cleaned up before the playoffs. But the thing that 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: gives me a little bit of calm and a little 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: bit of promise is the run game. The run game 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: on the ground. There were some you know, poppy plays 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: by kenniths Walker, but Sharburney was a steady force today, 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: getting the gritty yards, getting getting four and five yards 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: a pop. It's the best their run game, I think 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: is looked for majority of this season. I thought it 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: was consistent. Our guy AJ Barner got a touchdown in 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: this game and got to do his dance. You know, 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: I like a J Barner. I feel like he needs 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: to be a bigger part of this offense. JNSCN nine 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: receptions for seventy two yards and again he got a 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this season. But the story was the defense. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence we talked about earlier Pro Bowl season, forced 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: to fumble punched it out in a huge situation after 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks had just given the ball away on 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: an interception in the end zone to former Seahawks Mike Jackson, 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: who played with some enthusiasm and energy and was on 48 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: a bit of a revenge stour and had a pretty 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: good revenge game if you if you ask me. But 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: the defense of the Seattle Seahawks was able to turn 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: them away give the offensive ball back in the red 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: zone in the same position. They were able to capitalize 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: on that. That was their first touchdown of the game, 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: and then things started to snowball for the Seattle Seahawks. 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: They got an interception Julian Love Bates Bryce Young into 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: an interception that the Seahawks turned into more points. It 57 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: was a fun game and a great reassuring game if 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: you're a fan of the Seattle Seahawks, because you feel 59 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: you feel like, hey, we've been waiting for this run 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: game to get going. Obviously, this isn't a great, great 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers team, but It's a team that's won some 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: games and showed some promise throughout the season. So to 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: hold Bryce Young to fifty four yards passing at home 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: a team that scored thirty one points on the Rams 65 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: just a few weeks ago. So let's not act like 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: this team hasn't played any good football down in stretch. 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: They have and it was great this season. It looks 68 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: like it's gonna come down to the wire. Like we 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: talked about before the season started, they have the Seattle 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks have a game and Levi Stadium with the San 71 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. This game at the end of 72 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: the season. It's it's gonna be as meaningful as ever 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: because these two teams have played well enough to put 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: themselves in position. I can't wait to see how it 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: turns out. Richard. 76 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: The Seattle fan base has got to be thrilled. I mean, 77 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: coming into the season, you called it, man, you had 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: a peak behind the curtain, you know, in OTAs and 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: in training camp, and you said, there's there's a different 80 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: fire within this organization and it stems from the defense. 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: They have so many bodies that can throw at you defensively, 82 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: specifically on that D line. And then you look at 83 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: that secondary. My goodness, man, this team is the most 84 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: complete roster I've seen in Seattle since you're playing days, 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: since the glory days, Richard, when you guys were eating 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: for Super Bowls year in and year out, and then 87 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: you look offensively throughout this roster, it reminds me of 88 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: those days, Richard. There's players that are stepping up and 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: are going to become household names in Seattle. Look at 90 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: one AJ Barner, like you said with that dance in 91 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: the end zone. He played for Michigan. You of M, 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 2: who I do not like. I'm a mission and state 93 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: a lump, so I do not like. But the reality 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: is this guy didn't get as much attention at U 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: of M because he was playing with Colston Levelin, who 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: was the top ten pick by the Chicago Bears this year. 97 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Enter him into Seattle and he's exactly what they need 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: from a tight end, a guy that can give them 99 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: some pop offensively, catch these touchdown passes. And then obviously 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: we've talked about one hundred times this year, JSN, mister consistency, 101 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: another nine reception game. The construction of this roster. You 102 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: know what Schneider has done over the last couple of 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: years is very impressive. It starts with the acquisition of 104 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, and then he's kind of sprinkled the lawn 105 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: man and he's made this lawn flourish and we're seeing 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: it pay dividends here in Seattle thirteen and three. Who 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: would have saw this coming. I didn't, Richard, but you did. 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: Credit to you at the beginning of the season. We're 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: gonna have to pull it from the archives because Seattle 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: thirteen and three in line to win this division and 111 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: potentially have the one seed, is beyond impressive. Richard. They 112 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: got it done against a team that was in desperate 113 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: need of a win. I know it's the Carolina Panthers 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: five hundred, but we cannot undersell this game, like you said, 115 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: rainy conditions. But when they when Sam Darnold was turning 116 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: the ball over, their defense stepped up and another major acquisition, 117 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence. He was noted for saying he wanted to 118 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: come to Seattle because he wanted to win a Super Bowl. 119 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: Another guy that is being proven right. They are in 120 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: prime position right now. Richard. You got to be fired 121 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: up to be up in Seattle. I for one will 122 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: be rooting for you. I know I'm gonna be called 123 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: a band wagon fan. I'm switching the hat over to 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: Seattle now that my Detroit Lions have been formally eliminated 125 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: from playoff contention. But I will be rooting for the 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks going forward. That is that is what I got. 127 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: To say, no question about it. And I appreciate that 128 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the bandwagon's always open. And you got to talk about 129 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: John Snyder for potential Executive of the Year, especially with 130 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: all the preseason moves he made with his signing DeMarcus Lawrence, 131 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: the draft picks that they made that are thriving, the 132 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: way m and war he is playing. But you go 133 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: back to Byron Murphy, Witherspoon, foundational pieces, Charles Cross, et cetera, 134 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: Grey's Abel and what he's done to revamp this offensive line. 135 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Then you go to signings like DeMarcus Lawrence, then Leonard Williams, 136 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: who made yet another Pro Bowl. It's just it's just 137 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: been fantastic by him. And then you go Rashid Shahait, 138 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: the end season addition that's made huge impacts in this season. 139 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: So if he's not executive the year, obviously there's a 140 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: lot of teams playing well, it's it's surprising for me 141 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: at least in that regard. 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But the NFC souths Let's 166 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: talk about the NFC South for a second, because nobody 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: wants to win this division and that seems to be 168 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: the case every single year. You look up and a 169 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: team that has been leading a division all season long 170 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: starts to stumble. And then here comes to Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 171 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been leading off season 172 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: and then they start to stumble down the stretch and 173 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: somehow still pull this division out. And that's what it 174 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: looks like it's about to happen. Now. The Carolina Panthers 175 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: are losing games they shouldn't lose down the stretch. I 176 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: think both teams have lost their New Orleans Saints, who 177 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: are trying to figure out how they can pick number 178 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: one and number two in the draft this season. And 179 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: then you look up into Tampa Bay Buccaneers just lose 180 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins. So I don't really know what's 181 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna happen with this division. It doesn't look like either 182 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: team wants to win it. Both teams take a loss 183 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: this week against I mean, i'd say Carolina, you expected 184 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: to lose against a really good Seattle Seyhawks team. But 185 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bucks expected to lose to the 186 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins the way they did. Quinny Ewers at the 187 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Helm fourteen to twenty two, one hundred and seventy two yards, 188 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, Devin n Chain having a Pro Bowl season 189 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: eighteen carries for eighty three yards. But I don't really 190 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: understand this one. 191 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: I don't get it either, Richard. We talked about it 192 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: all year, you know, and look at this. I mean, 193 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, with everything in front of them, 194 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: all they got to do is win a handful of 195 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: games down the stretch. They've lost four in a row. 196 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: And we talked about it once Mike Evans went down 197 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: against Detroit with the collar bone injury, being out you know, 198 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: six to eight weeks whatever it was. That was what 199 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: we pointed to, Hey, Baker doesn't look the same because 200 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: he doesn't have his full arsenal of weapons. Well, now 201 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: they're healthy you know, they got Jalen McMillan back from 202 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: ir Obviously, I don't know what happened to a Mecca Buca. 203 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a revelation. He was the front 204 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: runner for Offensive Rookie of the Year and he's just 205 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: trailed off of late to end this season. You know, 206 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: with a Tampa Bay Bucks team that has that many weapons. 207 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: They got Chris Godwin back, they got Mike Evans back. 208 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: This is just unacceptable. I don't get it. Would you 209 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: say Todd Bowles is on the hot seat even if 210 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: they do win this division? 211 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm saying he's on the hot seat. 212 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles has done a great job. They've won four 213 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: straight division titles, working on a fifth. So regardless of 214 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: how everything's gone, they've gone to the playoffs the last 215 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: four years, and I think it's tough to say you're 216 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: firing the coach after that and a potential fifth straight 217 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: season going to the playoffs. But there is some concern 218 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: about how Baker Mayfield's play. Obviously, the stats thirty three 219 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: of forty four thirty forty six, two touchdowns, two interception 220 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: look great, but not'scoring enough points. Obviously, they lose to 221 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins twenty to seventeen, at least going seventeen 222 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: points after throwing for three forty six. Something's not adding 223 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: up there. Not getting the run game going Bucky Irvin 224 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: with only nine carries for nineteen yards, so that's been 225 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: a huge deal. And then defensively they're just out making 226 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: enough plays. You're not turning the ball over, You're not 227 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: getting the sack production that you would expect from a 228 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles defense. So all those things have contributed to 229 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: this four game losing streak, and hopefully they can find 230 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: a way to steal one for the Carolina Panthers and 231 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: get themselves back in the playoffs. But it's just not 232 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: looking great heading into the playoffs for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 233 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: no question. 234 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: I mean Week eight team, we got a couple of 235 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: showdowns that are gonna be with everything on the line, 236 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: and the NFC South is one of them. Who do 237 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: you like in this matchup Carolina against Tampa Bay Bucks, 238 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: someone's gonna inevitably have to win this division. 239 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, can I say neither? I like Tampa just 240 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: because just because they have more star power. I played 241 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for a cup of coffee. 242 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: And I think with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Baker Mayfield 243 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: and what they could do offensively, they'd be the more 244 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: dangerous team going into the playoffs. It'd be a fun 245 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: story for a guy that I was with in Seattle, 246 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: for Dave Canalis and his team to go to the 247 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: playoffs after everything they deal with dealt with last season, 248 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: after the scrutiny that they've dealt with in terms of 249 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: Bryce Young and the pick picking him above c J. Stroud, 250 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: and all the headache and things that have surrounded the 251 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers franchise for the last few years. So that 252 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: would be really cool. But I just don't think either 253 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: team will be relevant in the playoffs. With the way 254 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: some of these teams are playing, They're gonna play, inevitably 255 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: play one of these NFC West teams, whether it's the Rams, 256 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: the Seahawks of the forty nine ers, and I think 257 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: it'd be a very difficult team. Well, I mean, Carolina 258 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: just beat them, but I wouldn't expect them to beat 259 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: the Rams again if they come to Carolina. 260 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. 261 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Richard. 262 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: Let's move back, rewind the clock. Of time here, the 263 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: hands of time, if you will. To Christmas Day, you 264 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: were in Denver as part of the Thursday Night Football 265 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Crew taking on the Kansas City Chiefs. The Denver Broncos 266 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: squeaked away with a twenty to thirteen win. It wasn't 267 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: the most impressive win, especially going against a rookie third 268 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: string quarterback in his first career start, but ultimately the 269 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: Broncos get away with the win. They're in line to 270 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: win the AFC West, you know, and obviously the Chargers 271 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: have looked good at times this year as well, and Richard, 272 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: they're in line to take the one seed here. How 273 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 2: much do you like this Denver Broncos team? You saw 274 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: him first hand in Denver. 275 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: I really like him defensively, and I think that's that's 276 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: always what gives you the chance in the playoffs. I 277 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: think everybody says the defense wins championships, and I've obviously 278 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: been a part of that and a testament to it. 279 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: But it's it's gonna come down to bow Knicks and 280 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: and how he can manage this team, and how Sean 281 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: Payton manages him throughout this playoff run keeps him under wraps. 282 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: He does, He's pushing the ball down the field more 283 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: than he ever has, and it's kind of a mixed 284 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: bag right now. And if he can continue to do 285 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: that at a high level, if he can do that 286 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: at a high level in the playoffs, they'll have a 287 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: great chance. And his defense has to get pressure. They 288 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: have to get home. They only had one sack against 289 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, which was unlike this defense. They're 290 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: gonna have to change that. This is a defense that's 291 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if they would have got a few in 292 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: this game, could come close to setting the record. I 293 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: think they had sixty four sacks the record of seventy two, 294 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: So I don't think they're getting eight sacks versus versus 295 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and the Chargers, But who knows. I think 296 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: it's still a great defense, and it's gonna come down 297 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: to that ken bone Knicks execute. Can they keep the 298 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: run game consistent and then can that defense get home 299 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: and play as well as they have all season With 300 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: Nick Benito and Jonathan Cooper and John Franklin Myers and 301 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: Zach Yallen and the boys. You know, they have so 302 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: many guys that can get home. DJ Jones. Can they 303 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: play to that level in the playoffs. That's what it's 304 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna come down to, and if they can, they'll be 305 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: a dangerous team. But I still like the Houston Texans 306 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: sneaking in there and another dangerous defense. 307 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: No question about it. The AFC is gonna be a 308 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: totally different story than we're used to seeing over the 309 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: last decade. The Patriots are back to relevance. I mean, 310 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs are out of it for the 311 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: first time in years. And the major question around the 312 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: Chiefs obviously Patrick Mahomes acln injury and I'm sure he'll 313 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: you know, just with his track record, he'll make a 314 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: speedy recovery. But you gotta look at the rest of 315 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: the roster. Travis Kelcey, I mean, do you think he's 316 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: got another year lefter? You think he calls it and 317 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: sails off into the sunset with Taylor Swift. 318 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Well, I had a good conversation with Travis after the game, 319 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: and he doesn't know, man, and I don't think anybody knows. 320 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: After a season that doesn't end the way you want it, 321 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: you never want to ride off into the sunset with 322 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: a with a sour taste in your mouth. That's when 323 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: you live with regret and what could have been. Obviously, 324 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: they've had a tremendous amount of success over the last decade, 325 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he feels good about that. But I 326 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: think I think even if he retired this off season 327 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: or announced his retirement, I think there would in this 328 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: day and age, just like Philip Rivers, there's gonna be 329 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: grumblings as soon as things aren't going great in Kansas City. 330 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, man, old times he comes here, comes 331 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes back. Man, it sure would be nice to 332 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: have Travis Kelsey. They'll forget about, you know, how things 333 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: look this season, how things transpired, and they'll want that feeling. 334 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: That nostalgia will kick you in and I think he'll 335 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: get a call to say, hey, come in here. You 336 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: don't have to practice on Wednesdays. You will keep you 337 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: as healthy as we can. It's fresh for game day. 338 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: So I think he may retire, but I think he 339 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: comes back and play some football in twenty twenty six, 340 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: And that would be my expectation. 341 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: Now, this Kansas City Chiefs team, we're not used to 342 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: not seeing them in competition this late in the season. 343 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: Do you think it's as easy for them to just 344 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: turn the page and move to next season. Are they 345 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: going to be back to contenders or has too many 346 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: teams caught up to them? Because this year we were 347 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: talking about it off here. It's a weird one. There's 348 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: a lot of good teams in both the NFC and AFC, 349 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: but we don't really know who's the best, right I mean, 350 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: is it safe to say the Chiefs time has come 351 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: to a close where they are? Every time I ask you, Richard, 352 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: who's gonna win the Super Bowl? You tell me the 353 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: Chiefs because they got Patrick Mahomes. 354 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: No, I don't think their time has passed. I think 355 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: after everything that's happened, you have a down year, and 356 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: that's what's happened to the Kansas City Chiefs. They have 357 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: a down year. It catches up to you. Attrition catches 358 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: up to everybody you play every season into February. They 359 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: can never book any vacations until after February, have the 360 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: shortest off season of any team every single season, so 361 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: eventually that catches up to you. We saw it with 362 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers last season, and you 363 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: saw them they're just too beat up, too tired down 364 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: the stretch and couldn't figure it out, couldn't couldn't make 365 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: it work. And then they come back refreshed, and even 366 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: with all the injuries, even with all the turmoil that's 367 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: been going on with Brandon Ayuk and all that, that 368 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: team is in a position to potentially have the one 369 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: seat going into the final week. And so I don't know, 370 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if if that's enough, They'll they'll revamp, 371 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: They'll they'll get some strength along that offensive line. Trading 372 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: away Joe Tooney proved to be a bad decision. He's 373 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: doing great with the Chicago Bears, and I think they're 374 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to find to replenish that offensive line, especially 375 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: those tackles. They they drafted Simmons from Ohio State, but 376 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: he's had his own issues and and and problems that 377 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: he's dealt with. So hopefully they can get that figured out, 378 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: and then defensively, just replenishing that pass rush, helping Chris 379 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: Jones out. Does he come back. What are they going 380 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: to do in terms of drafting the next big time playmaker? 381 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: Do they address the running back room or do they 382 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: stick with Kareem Hunt and what they've been doing. Those 383 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: are the things I think they need to get answered. Uh, 384 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: this season, and you gotta appreciate the rest of the 385 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: division catching up too. You got to appreciate what the 386 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos are doing, what the the Chargers are doing. 387 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Even without their star tackles and Rashaun Slater and Joe All, 388 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: they're still finding ways to win. They're eleven and five 389 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: right now, even without Rishawn Slater for the entire season 390 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: and without Joe All for majority of the season, They're 391 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: finding ways to still win these games. Sure, justin Herbert's 392 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: getting beat up. He was sacked five times against the 393 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: Houston Houston Texans, he was intercepted, he fumbled, but he's 394 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: still finding a way to battle. 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They go into LA and 430 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: take care of business against these Chargers, a team that 431 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: has been really playing well themselves, and they leaned again 432 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: heavily on their defense. Richard, how impressed are you with 433 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: these Houston Texans? I know you are scared of any 434 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: team to play against them in the playoffs. They certainly 435 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: present a daunting task. Are they your favorite in the 436 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: AFC right now? 437 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: They're definitely my favorite team to watch in AFC. They 438 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: have so many playmakers on defense. They have a ziz 439 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Al Shair, they have Derek Stingley, they have Kamari Lassiter, 440 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: Kaylin Bullocks, they have Will Anderson, Daniel Hunter, they have 441 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: so many playmakers. Al Shaear making his first Pro Bowl, 442 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley making yet another one. And then offensively, they're 443 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: starting to find their rhythm. They're starting to find themselves. 444 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: I think they're doing a great job of controlling a 445 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: clock and then CJ strorout finding his rhythm in the 446 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: first half, he looked fantastic, his longest completion of his career, 447 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: longest touchdown of his career against the Chargers, and then 448 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: he kind of cooled off and made some mistakes, some 449 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: Aaron passes and through two interceptions. Then you got Marx, 450 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: who's a young guy finding his way on the ground, 451 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: seventy one yards on nineteen carries, and Jaydon Higgins two 452 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: catches for eighty eight yards and that touchdown we talked 453 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: about earlier. And then the defense had five sacks in 454 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: that game. So if they can play like that, they're 455 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: gonna be a very fun team to watch in a 456 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: very dangerous team to go against. If they played the 457 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, for instance, in a division game in the 458 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: playoffs in the wild card, you know it could be 459 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: anybody's bet. And again, even if they played in New 460 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: England or something like that, you still feel really good 461 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: about what they can bring. Obviously, New England has been 462 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: consistently consistent on offense, but defensively, there's some holes there 463 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: if the Texans can expose it. So I feel really 464 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: good about them going into these playoffs and hopefully I 465 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: can't wait to see it. 466 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: Ques about it. They do have game wreckers on the 467 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. Like you said, there's secondaries 468 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: playing lights out, but the tone setters are your guy 469 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: will Anderson and Danil Hunter. Five sacks again, totally disrupting 470 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: this game for the Chargers. And like you said, CJ. 471 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: Stroud is starting to look like his self old. I 472 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: mean he's leaning more on Higgins, leaning more on Noel. 473 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: We didn't see a whole lot of Eco Collins in 474 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: this game, but the deep ball to Higgins to start 475 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: the game. When you can set the tone like that 476 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: that early and then lean on your defense, they're going 477 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: to be a very, very difficult team to watch. And 478 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: they're doing all this, by the way, without Tank Dell 479 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: and Joe Mixon. So it's impressive to see guys like 480 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: Willie Mark step up and take over the lead role. 481 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: You know, Nick Chubb was toting the rock early in 482 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: the season, and Willie Marx has risen to the occasion. 483 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: This team started zero to three, Richard, and now they're 484 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: eleven and five. They're eleven and two in their last 485 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: thirteen games. I don't know if there's a more impressive 486 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: team in football during that stretch. They are certainly going 487 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: to be a tough team in the playoffs, and I 488 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: would not want to play. And by the way, Richard, 489 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: it looks like your favorites, the Jacksonville Jaguars, are gonna 490 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: win that division more than likely, which is wild to see. 491 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they're playing this level of football and they're 492 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: not even gonna win their own division. So it is 493 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: gonna present a tough matchup in wild card weekend for 494 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: whoever's got to play them. But let's talk a little 495 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: bit more about the Chargers. I mean, obviously this wasn't 496 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: their best showing, but they made it a game. You 497 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: know that they've got They really have not been utilizing 498 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: Lad McConkey. It's been Quintin Johnson. Over these last few weeks. 499 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: We finally saw a little bit more of a Ronde Gatson, 500 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: who have been not existing over the last month. What 501 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: has got to give for this team to fully connect 502 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: on all cylinders because they have a lot of weapons offensively. 503 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: Uh, they gotta they gotta find a way to execute 504 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: it and protect Justin Herbert so he can execute. So 505 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: they have all these weapons, but it's it's it's a 506 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: tall task, but they're doing as good of a job 507 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: as they can, and they're gonna have a chance to 508 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: to upset the Broncos at the end of the season 509 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: and give their team a chance to improve their playoff seeding. 510 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: Because it's coming down to the wire. Who's gonna be 511 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: the seventh seed, who's gonna be the sixth seed, Who's 512 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna be the five seed in AFC? And that's gonna 513 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: matter because do you who wants to play that either 514 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: play the Denver Broncos. Are you playing the New England Patriots? 515 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: Are you playing these Jacksonville Jaguars that we talked about? 516 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: All those things matter. Are you the fifth seed and 517 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: you're playing whoever wins the AFC South or whoever wins 518 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: the AFC North. Is it gonna be the Baltimore Ravens. 519 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be the Pittsburgh Steelers who took a 520 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: bad loss today to the Cleveland Browns and Shador Sanders. 521 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: So everything's coming down to the wire. And the NFL 522 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: schedule makers did a phenomenal job. These division matchups at 523 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: the end are what matters. 524 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: They sure did, They sure did. And then your boy 525 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence Man delivers another solid game, dude, and I 526 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: like I said, I've talked about it over the last 527 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: couple weeks. What I feel like is the difference in 528 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence's game this year versus last is his He's 529 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: not waiting around with the ball when he sees an opportunity. 530 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: He's utilizing his legs, specifically in the red zone. He 531 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: had two more rushing touchdowns to Gate today. That opens 532 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: up this offense so much more. And Travis etn Man, 533 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's going to be a free 534 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: agent after the season. You can tell that he wants 535 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: this season as bad as anyone else on this Jaguars roster. 536 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: I know you're not the biggest Jacksonville Jaguars fan, that's 537 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 2: well documented, Richard, but twelve and four you have to 538 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: be somewhat impressed by how they finished out this season. 539 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're impressed because we weren't expecting this kind 540 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: of season from the Jacksonville Jaguars. And Trevor Lawrence has 541 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: played really good football this especially this last month. But 542 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to what happens in the playoffs. 543 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: You know. I think they're going to have a really 544 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: tough matchup with the Houston Texans, and that'll tell the 545 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: tail if they can find a way to win in 546 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: the playoffs to get out of that first round to 547 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: get the division. I'd consider this an incredible remarkable season 548 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars for Liam coleb Liam Cohen in 549 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: his first season with the team, exceeding all expectations for 550 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: them and showing a lot of promise for the future 551 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: when they get Travis Hunter back and what he can bring, 552 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: whether it's offensively our defensively, and to do all the 553 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: things that they're able to do without him and to 554 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: continue to grow this team on both sides of the 555 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: football is really cool to see. But again, we pay 556 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: these people for playoff performance, and I can't wait to 557 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: see what they're going to be able to do in 558 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: a few weeks in January when it gets played in 559 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: January football, no. 560 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: Question about it. I personally love what the Jaguars did 561 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: offensively in their wide receiver room, Jacoby Myers. Again, they 562 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: injected a veteran presence in this wide receiving room. You 563 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: can see everyone else flourishing because of Parker. Washington has 564 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: had a back to back big games. You know, obviously 565 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: we've seen Brian Thomas kind of stumble at times this season, 566 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: but he seems they've turn it on as if late 567 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: as well. And then of course, you know, when they 568 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: bring back their number two overall pick next year, this 569 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: offense is going to be a tough one to mess with. 570 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 571 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: But on the other side of the football, the Indianapolis Colts, 572 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: obviously it's got to be tough for them to go 573 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: out the way they did without Indiana Jones, Daniel Jones 574 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: out there suffering the devastating injury. This team just looks 575 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: completely different. You know, credit to Philip Rivers for at 576 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: least keeping this team competitive. You know they were. They 577 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: were tough to beat down the stretch with them there, 578 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: but obviously they lost them their gusto offensively. So the 579 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, they're going to go into this offseason with 580 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: a couple question marks, specifically at quarterback. But you gotta 581 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: feel confident on what you have in Indianapolis with this 582 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: ross or outside of the quarterback position right now. 583 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, on paper, especially defensive, like they're one of the 584 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: more talented units if you look at Tarvarius Ward Sauce 585 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: Gardner on outside. They haven't had a chance to have 586 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: both them healthy at the same time yet, but once 587 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: they do, they can play some man a man defense 588 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: and lou An Arumo, I'm sure he's excited about that. 589 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: DeForest Bucker just ended his season and got next surgery, 590 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: so you hate see that for this team, but again 591 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: for the future, you're you're excited for them and what 592 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: they have going. So, yeah, they got some foundational pieces 593 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: they got, but you got to figure out the quarterback spot. 594 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: What are you going to do with Daniel Jones. They're 595 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: saying they're gonna sit Philip Rivers for this last game 596 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: because obviously they're out of the playoffs and he did 597 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: everything he could to try to give this team a chance. 598 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think there's some optimism there, but there's 599 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: definitely some disappointment with how they started the season. 600 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: No question. Let's move over to the battle in the 601 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: AFC North, and if there's one team that got the 602 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: best Christmas present this Christmas season, it was the Baltimore 603 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: Ravens going on the road taking care of the Packers 604 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: and then seeing the Steelers get upset by Cleveland Browns. 605 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: This Steelers team, the team that we saw in Detroit 606 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: take care of the Lions that had their entire season 607 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: to play for that game. The Pittsburgh Steelers were a 608 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: no show today completely Aaron Rodgers twenty one to thirty 609 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: nine for one hundred and sixty eight yards, and they 610 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: get beat by shad Or Sam who has looked better 611 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: over the last couple of weeks and obviously closing out 612 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: this season with a win is a big deal for him. 613 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: How devastating of a loss is this for Pittsburgh, who 614 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: could have won the division by beating the Cleveland Browns today? 615 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: It was really devastating and even more insult to injury 616 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: is the dk metcalf suspension. And you look offensively and 617 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: what could they have used today? An offensive injection from 618 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: the receiver room and they had it. They have a 619 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: guy they're paying thirty million dollars a year, over thirty 620 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: million dollars a year that could provide that, but unfortunately 621 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: he's unavailable because of the stake he made in Detroit. 622 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: And that's a story for a different day. But you can't. 623 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: It's it's frustrating because the Ravens obviously took care of 624 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: business against the Green Bay Packers in Green Bay, a 625 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: phenomenal game, and Tyler Huntley did just enough to get 626 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: that game. But Derek hen Rec carried the ball thirty 627 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: six times for two hundred and sixteen yards and another 628 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: four TD game for him. And you look at the 629 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Steelers and they just have no momentum. They have no 630 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: momentum offensively. I think defensively, they played a solid game 631 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: and you feel good about that performance if you're the 632 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers defense. They calls two turnovers, they had two 633 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: sacks in a game. It made life really tough for 634 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders could have had three sacks. I mean, could 635 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: have had three interceptions and a pick six, but it 636 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: was a dropped interception. I think it's hard for me 637 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: to and I said this earlier. I thought Baltimore was 638 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs because the Pittsburgh Steelers, you just 639 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna get from them week from 640 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: week to week. And without DK Metcalf in the fold 641 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: the last game of the season, for all the marbles, 642 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: I really can't see them winning this game. And it's 643 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: not because of anything that the Baltimore Ravens are doing necessarily, 644 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: It's because I just don't I don't believe in the 645 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers and what they put on tape the last 646 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: few weeks, so I'd be surprised if Baltimore doesn't give 647 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: them a heavy dose of Derrick Henry throughout this game 648 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: the clock and run the ball and try to bully 649 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: their way to I mean an AFC North title, no 650 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: question about it. I mean the Ravens. 651 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: This is a team that was down and out, horrendous 652 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: start to the season, and they have not gotten any 653 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: more luck with this this AFC North Division, the way 654 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: it's played out, Lamar Jackson not playing last game against 655 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers, I mean, who would have thought 656 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: that they would have won? The Packers have everything to 657 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: play for, you know, and they got to be a 658 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: dangerous team to want to play against. I unlike the 659 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: NFC sided thing with the NFC South, I think anyone's 660 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: gonna beat whoever comes out of the NFC South, whoever 661 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 2: comes out of the AFC North. I'm sorry if it's 662 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson at home Week one in the wild card. 663 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: I know they haven't had their best year, Richard, but 664 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: come on, man, I mean this is Lamar Jackson MVP. 665 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: You know, do you have any hope if the Baltimore 666 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: Ravens are to make this playoffs. Do you have any 667 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: hope in them to make a run? 668 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: I do not. I do sure, I do not. I'm 669 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: not in that ball club. I'm not in that fan 670 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: club right now because of what they've had surrounding them 671 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: and how Lamar Jackson has played this season. Now, Lamars 672 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: Jackson's resume is what it is. He's been phenomenal, outstanding, 673 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: But the news coming out of Baltimore has not been 674 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: good this season, and it's starting to seem like things 675 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: are cracking for that franchise, whether it's John Harball, is 676 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: it gonna be John Harbor or Lamar Jackson. Like we 677 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: haven't had those conversations in the past, we haven't had 678 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: those kind of distractions. I'm sure they're playing well enough 679 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: to potentially make a playoff. But the last game, Derrick Henry, 680 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he was even in the game for 681 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: like the last few driver or the last quarter of 682 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: the game. It was very weird and it was having 683 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: a great game and you could say, oh man, we 684 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball there. You still don't take Derrick 685 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: Henry out the game, like, you still have to have 686 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: the threat, you have to have the king on the field. 687 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: He's one of your best players, if not your best 688 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: player at the time. And I think that's the issue, 689 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: and there's too much surrounding and if I felt like, Hey, 690 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: this is a healthy Lamar and he's gonna go out 691 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: there and put on the show, I don't think Lamar 692 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: Jackson's healthy. And I think that's the issue that I 693 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: run into to that I don't have confidence in, is 694 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: that he's not healthy. And if Derrick Henry's all you got, 695 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: then I don't think that's enough right now as they 696 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: sit to go into the playoffs in AFC and expect 697 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: to win. Now, maybe they could pull it off, but 698 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: it just doesn't give me confidence with how Lamar's played 699 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: the last month of the season and with all the 700 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: distractions around that team, and then even defensively, they gave 701 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: up twenty four points to Malik Willis. Malik Willis was 702 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty one for two to eighty eight in 703 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: a touchdown with sixty yards and two rushing touchdowns on 704 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: the ground. I mean, they made Milik Willis look look 705 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: like he's a starting NFL caliber quarterback. And if he 706 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: played like that for seventeen games, you'd be talking about 707 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: him being top fifteen top ten quarterback in this National 708 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: Football League, and so you really, I really don't feel 709 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: great about them defensively either. So I don't know. I'm 710 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: not sitting there like I'm not in this in the 711 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: same standing as you about that. 712 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough. A team that's been hot as 713 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 2: a skill at all season long, New England Patriots. Man, 714 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: they go in and dominate the New York Jets. And 715 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: I know it's the Jets, but we got to talk 716 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: a little bit about Drake May here. Man, if five 717 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: touchdown passes all in the first half, right, I mean, 718 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: what else does he have to do? I know you 719 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: love Matthew Stafford as the MVP candidate, and his numbers 720 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: certainly do speak for themselves, but is Drake May the 721 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: top quarterback in the AFC? Is that safe to say? 722 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: No, No, Josh, we're not. We're not. We're not going 723 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: crazy now. I'm not sure we're not going to lose 724 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: side of things. If you take Josh Allen out, I 725 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: guess you know, if you take him and put him 726 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: somewhere else on another planet, then sure we'll go with 727 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: Drake May. But he is having a phenomenal season and 728 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: you can't take anything away from him this season and 729 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: what he's done for this team. But he's got ten 730 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 1: touchdowns less than Matthew Stafford. And I'm not at least 731 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: it's me and I've been wrong before. I thought Lamar 732 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't have got it that year and Josh Allen should 733 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: have got and they gave it to Lamar Jackson would 734 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty two, twenty one or twenty two passing 735 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: touchdowns and Matthew Stafford is having what may be the 736 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: best season of his career forty touchdowns, five interceptions, and 737 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: you can has the chance to add to that with 738 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: two games to go. So I have a hard time 739 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: saying a kid with thirty touchdowns and eight interceptions is 740 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: having a better season than Matthew Stafford. And I understand 741 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: that they've won more games, they're the number one seed 742 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: in the AFC, they've played fantastic or they have a 743 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: chance to be the number one seed in AFC and 744 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: they played fantastic football, But it doesn't take away from 745 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: what Matthew Stafford has done this season. He's had a 746 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: phenomenal season, led the Rams to a chance at a 747 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: number one seed in a very tough division. And if 748 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: we're if we're judging it about if we're judging it 749 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: by the stats and who's playing quarterback at the highest level, 750 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to argue Matthew Stafford, is it. 751 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: We talked about New England all year long and their schedule. 752 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's call it how it is. It 753 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: was a cakewalk for him outside of having to play 754 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 2: the Bills a couple of times. Do you think that 755 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 2: they can, you know, stand up to the test of 756 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: playing against other division winners in the playoffs? Do you 757 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 2: think they are that good or do you think they're, 758 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 2: you know, more of a product of their easy schedule 759 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: this year? 760 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: Man, I don't think they're a product of the very 761 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: easy schedule. I think they've taken advantage and they've done 762 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do if you have a schedule 763 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: like this. But I do think if they run into 764 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 1: a very tough matchup that it's going to be hard 765 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: for him. If you if you think about them running 766 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: into the Houston Texans in the first round, you know 767 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: they'd be favored, I'm sure, but that's not a mathship 768 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: that you would hope for. If you're the New England 769 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: Patriots Now if they run into Chargers, sure you'd feel 770 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: a little better about that, but you still feel a 771 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: little uneasy about it. So I'm not sure you If 772 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: you're the New England Patriots and their fan base, you 773 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with any team you You're very excited about 774 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: your team in the future of Drake May and everything 775 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: they have going for him. They're very scrappy on defense. 776 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: They fight hard, they they played to the whistle, everything 777 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: that you would expect from a Mike Rabel coach team. 778 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm again the playoffs tell the tale 779 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: for them as well. I mean, this is an AFC 780 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: that's wide open, and I need a team to stand 781 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: out and need a team to show that they belong, 782 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: that showed that they're an AFC contender. This is when 783 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: you get it done. We've been talking all season about 784 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: records and wins and losses, but until the playoffs, nobody's 785 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: a true contender and nobody gains the respect and honor 786 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: until they do. That's why Buffalo gets held in such 787 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: high regard. They've gone to the playoffs, they've won. Their 788 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: quarterback has played well in the playoffs, even in losses. 789 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen has played well in just about 790 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: every game, So I'm looking forward to seeing which team 791 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: separates themselves in January. 792 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: No question about it. And finally, before he wrapped, Richard, 793 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 2: I got to talk a little bit about my Detroit Lions. 794 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: What an absolute brutal Christmas Day game against the Vikings. 795 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: The lines going to the Minnesota with absolute nothing to 796 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: play for, really and lose twenty three to ten. This 797 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 2: was the worst performance I've seen the Detroit Lions play 798 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: in the last three years. Six turnovers. But candidly, Richard, 799 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad the season ended the way it did. You know, 800 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 2: if the Lions can finish last in their division, they 801 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 2: should have a very easy schedule going in the next year. 802 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: That being said, you know, I don't think the window 803 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: for Detroit is closed. I think this offseat is going 804 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: to be a very important one for Brad Holmes in 805 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: this front office for the Lions. They have glaring issues 806 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: on the interior of their offensive line. I think this 807 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 2: might be the easiest team to fix in the NFL 808 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: because their issues are so obvious. They need to go 809 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 2: out and be aggressive and get a center. Whether that's 810 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: sweet talking Frank Ragnow to come out of retirement, or what, 811 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: and then they need to get another guard and then 812 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: potentially a backup left tackle to help in the transition 813 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: that inevitably will occur with whatever happens with Taylor Decker 814 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 2: going forward, Richard, this season for the Detroit Lions will 815 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: go down is an absolute failure in my opinion. It's 816 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: fresh off of fifteen and two outing last year. To 817 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: go five hundred and potentially be looking at a sub 818 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: five hundred season is nothing short of devastating for Detroiters. 819 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: But do you share the same mindset as me? You 820 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: think the Lions window is closed or do you think 821 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 2: they have life going the next year? 822 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be very difficult. I don't 823 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: share the optimism that it's going to be an easy 824 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: fix or a quick fix just because of what everybody 825 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: else is doing. In Division. You have Ben Johnson now 826 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears, getting Caleb Williams to believe and 827 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: play at a high level. He made a critical pass 828 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: to beat the Green Bay Packers, who can are struggling 829 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: right now but still have a very solid foundation for 830 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,959 Speaker 1: a future with Micah Parsons and whatever you believe Jordan 831 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: loved to be and they'll stack and get better, and 832 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: then you lose to in the Minnesota Vikings, who are 833 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: struggling this season. They had Matt Brouzmer at quarterback, who 834 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: I think they said had seven net passing yards in 835 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 1: a win, and you lose to him so bad it's 836 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: not giving me a lot of hope for the future. 837 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: You lost to the worst team in the division and 838 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: they beat the crap out of your quarterback to the 839 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: tune of four fumbles or three fumbles, two interceptions, and 840 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: just looked uneasy the entire night. And you don't think 841 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure Brian Forores is gonna get some 842 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: interviews for a head coaching position, but if he comes back, 843 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: you're terrified to that team, and this is the worst 844 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: team in your division, So I'm not sure in the 845 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: same optimism for the Honolulu Blue Boys. Hopefully they can 846 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: figure some things out and offensively and defensively, I mean, 847 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: they had six sacs in the game, but again, you're 848 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: playing prosmer and you're not feeling fantastic about that. You 849 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: have to be better defensively, and you got to get 850 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: those those All Pro and Pro Bowl safeties. 851 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: Healthy, no question about it. 852 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: All odds and lines come from our partners at hard Rock. 853 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: We've got the Rams at the Falcons on Monday Night 854 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: Football tomorrow. Hard Rock Bet has the Rams at a 855 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: seven and a half point spread. I think that's accurate. 856 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: I think the Rams are a good football team. They're 857 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: playing for something. They're excited, they're energized. They need a chance. 858 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: They need to win these games for a chance at 859 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: the one seed. They're gonna be going, Mitchell. 860 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think the La Rams cover this 861 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 2: no problem. I think they go on the road, take 862 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: care of business against the Atlanta Falcons, who have absolutely 863 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: nothing to play for. I think it's going to be 864 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 2: a high scoring affair for the Rams, you know. And 865 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 2: let's be real, the Atlanta Falcons. Falcons have been playing 866 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 2: better offensively the last few games too, so they could 867 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: put a couple of touchdowns on the board if you 868 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: had to pick. I got a little little parley I 869 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: can throw out there at anytime touchdown scores. I like 870 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 2: Pooka Nakoa. The guy's been absolutely dynamic for this offense 871 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 2: for the last several years. He's really, you know, in 872 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 2: a league of his own in this NFL. And then 873 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 2: Kyron Williams, another guy I know Blake Koram has been 874 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 2: hitting the ball more and this more of an equal 875 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: share between him and Kyraen Williams right now. But I 876 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: think Kyraen Williams gets in the end zone and then 877 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: finally the revelation late in the season, Kyle Pitts man, 878 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: he's gonna find the end zone as well. We'll see 879 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 2: what happens. But I got Pooka, Kyron and Kyle Pitts 880 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: as anytime touchdown scores. 881 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: Those are great picks. I think there's have a chance. 882 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean Kyle Williams, I mean Kyle Pitts has been 883 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: really hot the last few weeks, no question about it. 884 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: Richard. It's always a pleasure sitting down with you every Sunday. 885 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 2: This concludes our week seventeen recap. I will let you 886 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 2: sign us off, my friend well Mitchell. As always, we 887 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 2: appreciate you guys joining us. 888 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here 889 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: with us and we dang sure appreciate it. Thank you, guys, 890 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the new subs, thank you for 891 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: all the old subs, and everybody who checks in every 892 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: week to see what we have to say. You want, 893 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: guys are the best. We hope you have a happy 894 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: holiday season, a happy New Year's all.