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Speaker 1: Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: It is March twenty sixth, the year of our Lord,

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Speaker 2: two thousand twenty. Even though no one was outside today,

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Speaker 2: yours truly was not around human beings, mind you, but

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Speaker 2: sporting a nice sunburn. The sun came out for Colin,

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Speaker 2: I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, first time in

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Speaker 2: If again you could get outside and stay away from everyone,

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to get to a lot of stuff tonight.

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Speaker 2: But what I wanted to lead the show with is

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Speaker 2: something that is on everyone's mind. Every show we've had

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Speaker 2: since feels like an eternity. But about two weeks now

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Speaker 2: that we have been in essential personnel mode only here

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Speaker 2: Let's see how this is going to work.

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Speaker 1: And then are they going to cancel Mark Madness? Boom?

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Speaker 2: They canceled March Madness, Well, what about major League Baseball,

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Speaker 2: when that's going to start up again. But now I've noticed,

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Speaker 2: whole story, even on this show. I try and give

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Speaker 2: then begrudging you Lee, you have to say, yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: off the record, go ahead. And so I can't tell

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Speaker 2: But what I do try and do is take the

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Speaker 2: has made all the more educated by hopefully watching our show.

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Speaker 1: Ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: I will give you my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I strongly believe we will have a college football season

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Speaker 1: I contend you.

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Speaker 2: On Thursday, the Board of Governors YadA, YadA, YadA, high

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Speaker 2: the theory of relativity in play here, Peace continues. How

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Speaker 2: revenue distribution was previously budgeted at approximate six hundred million.

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Speaker 2: In other words, they had planned for something going haywire

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Speaker 2: what that article sounds like in January? If the college

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Speaker 2: he had Brian Kelly, head coach at Notre Dame, on

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Speaker 2: being able to open camp and still start college football

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly said, we need to start by July first.

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Speaker 2: he said, our team doctors are going to want six weeks.

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Speaker 2: thing on time. Right now, it is late March, June, July, August, April, May, June, July, August,

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Speaker 2: So that got me thinking, what's the latest that we

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Speaker 1: And so I did some texting around. I called a

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Speaker 2: Now, of course, none of these folks go on the record,

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Speaker 2: shaving out? Seventy percent, eighty percent? But they're formulating that

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Speaker 2: A lot of folks are tossing around the idea now here.

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Speaker 2: There are a million questions. Here's the one question. The

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Speaker 2: So let's safely say October seventeenth. Let's say we start

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Speaker 2: You play an eight game conference season started a week later,

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Speaker 2: but the nine game conference seasons started October seventeenth, that

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Speaker 2: January first and the national championship game on January eleventh.

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Speaker 2: This model is working off the concept that the semi

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Speaker 2: If we can flex those around, then I think there's

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Speaker 2: a lot more leeway. Obviously, there are a million questions here.

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Speaker 1: First question is to me, what do you do with

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Speaker 2: Cause Notre Dame's not in a conference, Brigham Young's not

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Speaker 2: Don't necessarily believe, correct me if I'm wrong Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: We'll get back to you in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know that that's the way Brian Kelly

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Speaker 2: And to understand how much stuff had just happened in

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Speaker 2: the most surreal moment that I've had the pleasure of

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Speaker 2: witnessing live so far in my career in this avenue,

441
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Speaker 2: and it was amazing to see. But on the drive

442
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Speaker 2: home that morning following, all I could think about was

443
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 2: how many things, how many tumblers had to fall into place,

444
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Speaker 2: Because once you lose that Iron Bowl, your fate's out

445
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 2: of your hands, and as fate would have it, you

446
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 2: get to go to that playoff and remembering what the

447
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 2: scene was. While everyone else is thinking about what Tongue

448
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,400
Speaker 2: of Ailoa had just done, all I could think about

449
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 2: is remember what the scene was down that tunnel at

450
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Speaker 2: Auburn when they had just lost. If you had told

451
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Speaker 2: me in that very moment that this was going to

452
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Speaker 2: be the way their season ended, I would have bet

453
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Speaker 2: you any amount of money that you were crazy. That's

454
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Speaker 2: why you love college football, and that's why people are

455
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Speaker 2: so desperate to have it returned this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on.

457
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Speaker 2: There was a guy that had been on that coaching

458
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Speaker 2: staff and had already been fired the year before and

459
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Speaker 2: had himself a new job.

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Speaker 1: His name's Lame Kiffen.

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Speaker 2: I'm not in the majority with Lame Kiffin right now.

462
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Speaker 2: I did a little unofficial straw poll today, very unscientific

463
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Speaker 2: with Lane Kiffin. Not with him, mind you, Colin. I

464
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 2: bet we'd get him on the show. But a lot

465
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Speaker 2: of people don't believe in Lane Kiffin. I don't blame you, okay,

466
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Speaker 2: but let me get into this a little bit. A

467
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Speaker 2: simple question I ask is, do you believe that failure

468
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Speaker 2: is a necessary part of success? Do you believe you

469
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Speaker 2: have to fail before you succeed? Most of you would

470
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Speaker 2: answer yes. Most of you would say failure if process

471
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Speaker 2: the right way is instrumental and ultimately contributing to your success.

472
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Speaker 2: Anyone who's achieved any level of success in business in

473
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Speaker 2: your personal life you understand this concept. And yet a

474
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Speaker 2: lot of you are college football fans, and you totally

475
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Speaker 2: write coaches off once they fail at one stop or

476
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Speaker 2: two stops, you write them off.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily of that mentality.

478
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Speaker 2: And I'll give you a very very recent example of

479
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Speaker 2: how this illustration really drives home the point, and that's

480
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Speaker 2: ed Orgeron. Ed Or Zeron had been the head coach

481
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Speaker 2: at Ole Miss and edwors Mron was not a very

482
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Speaker 2: good head coach.

483
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Speaker 1: At Ole Miss.

484
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Speaker 2: His record, as we like to say, spoke for itself,

485
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Speaker 2: and so edwars Ron it looks for all the world

486
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Speaker 2: like he's never going to get another head coaching job.

487
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Speaker 2: He's a position coach, he's a really good recruiter. But hey,

488
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Speaker 2: we tried this whole experiment of edwors Ron coaching at

489
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Speaker 2: the head coaching level out at Ole Miss and it

490
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Speaker 2: didn't work. And that's all anyone could remember when LSU

491
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Speaker 2: decided edwors Ron's going to be our head coach. Okay, Well,

492
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Speaker 2: the most popular refrain by ten Miles was he's not

493
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Speaker 2: going to be successful. And when someone pressed you on why,

494
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Speaker 2: the most common answer by ten Miles was.

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Speaker 1: Well, look at what he did at Ole Miss. He

496
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Speaker 1: failed at Ole Miss.

497
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Speaker 2: A lot of people just took that to mean, well,

498
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Speaker 2: it's automatic, he's going to fail here. We know who

499
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Speaker 2: he is as a head coach, never considering that it's

500
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Speaker 2: possible that someone could learn lessons in a failure that

501
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Speaker 2: are applicable to a future opportunity if they're given that opportunity.

502
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Speaker 2: And so now lay Kiffin had opportunities everywhere from Knoxville.

503
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Speaker 1: Tennessee, to Oakland to usc and then he.

504
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Speaker 2: Gets plucked off the scrap peep, goes to Alabama, gets

505
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Speaker 2: himself ahadehob three years later at Florida Atlantic and now

506
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Speaker 2: he's right back in the sec. There's a lot we

507
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Speaker 2: don't know with Lane kiffn Let's talk about what we

508
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: do know. I'll tell you I'm not selling my Lane

509
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Speaker 2: Kiffin stock like a lot of other people are.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we do know.

511
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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin is very highly regarded as a football mind.

512
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Speaker 1: A lot of people doubt him.

513
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Speaker 2: A lot of people chip away at the Veneer, but

514
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: they never say it's because the guy lacks football acumen.

515
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Speaker 1: There are other.

516
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Speaker 2: Reasons intangible in nature, and I don't have a problem

517
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Speaker 2: with you bringing him up.

518
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Speaker 1: The past is the past. Facts are facts.

519
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: But what we do know is that guy is one

520
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Speaker 2: of the best offensive minds in the sport. We also know,

521
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: and if you don't, I can tell you he is

522
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: loved nearly universally by players of the teams that he's on.

523
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Speaker 2: He had three years under Nick Saban after he hit

524
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Speaker 2: rock bottom.

525
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Speaker 1: We know that.

526
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Speaker 2: We know from there he went to Florida Atlantic. And

527
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Speaker 2: a lot of folks are gonna leave that stop at

528
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Speaker 2: Florida Atlantic out of the mountain of reasons to doubt

529
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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin. They're going to leave it out because he

530
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Speaker 2: was successful at Florida Atlantic as a head coach. Now

531
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Speaker 2: we also know he's a lightning rod. That's not a

532
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: bad thing for Old Miss. That's a good thing. But

533
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Speaker 2: here's the other thing.

534
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Speaker 1: We know.

535
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Speaker 2: There was a market for Lane Kiffin. Do you remember

536
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Speaker 2: when Old Miss landed him. Ole Miss wasn't the only

537
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Speaker 2: program after him. So there's a lot we do know

538
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Speaker 2: about him, and the folks who doubt him, there's always

539
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Speaker 2: this giant butt after they state their reasons, and the

540
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: giant butt is, but that guy's a good football coach.

541
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Speaker 1: Now. He knows offense.

542
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Speaker 2: He knows how to call plays, he knows how to

543
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Speaker 2: design game plans. He knows how to get his players

544
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Speaker 2: in the right spot. Players gravitate towards him. He can

545
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: recruit lights out. So there are a lot of football

546
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: boxes that Lane Kiffin checks. It's the mirror that's been

547
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: his worst enemy. So the biggest question to me is

548
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: not about lan Kiff. It's football acum in the biggest

549
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: question and is is the guy in the mirror ready

550
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: to lead men? Is he ready to be a leader

551
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: of a football program? If he is, all the other

552
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: stuff's in place. I can't know that. You can't know

553
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: that two entities can know the answer. To that, and

554
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: that's God and that's Lane Kiffin, because those are the

555
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: only two that really know that man's heart. If his

556
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: heart's in the right place, Ole Miss is going to

557
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: win a lot of football games, a lot of them.

558
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Speaker 2: His shortcomings, I'm telling you they're non chalk, which is

559
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: a football term to say. It doesn't have to do

560
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: anything with him designing a play on third and seven.

561
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: It's all in tangible, it's all off the field.

562
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Speaker 1: It's all been of his own doing.

563
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: And I don't think if he were sitting right here,

564
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Speaker 2: he'd really argue that where's his mind that if it's

565
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Speaker 2: ready to lead a program effectively.

566
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Speaker 1: I look forward to watching him.

567
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: If I were to try and guess my way into

568
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin's mind, if I were trying to put myself,

569
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Speaker 2: I guess I could say it that way.

570
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Speaker 1: If I were trying to put myself.

571
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Speaker 2: In Lane Kiffin's shoes right now and previous few years,

572
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: I think to myself, he's on the scrap heap, and

573
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: he gets picked up by Nick Saban and he deals

574
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: with a lot of stuff and has to Grin and

575
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: Barrett in Tuscaloosa, cause he knows he's paying a price

576
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: for his own shortcomings and then he gets ahead job

577
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: at Florida Atlantic, and all the while, you know what

578
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: he's watching. He's watching his program right here, and with

579
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: one eye, he's got to be watching guys like Lincoln

580
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: Riley doing what he's doing at Oklahoma. With all the

581
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: respect in the world for Lincoln Riley, but I can

582
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: tell you, whether you believe it or not, be got

583
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Speaker 2: on the bottom of.

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Speaker 1: The screen right here for those of you watching it

585
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Speaker 1: on YouTube.

586
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin looked at Lincoln Riley and says, I'm every

587
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: bit the equal of Lincoln Riley. In fact, I'm probably

588
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 2: better than Lincoln Riley, Ryan Day, Tom Herman. A lot

589
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 2: of these young guys getting shots at major programs. The

590
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: only reason that's not me is because of reasons that

591
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: I've inflicted upon myself. If he's got it cleaned up,

592
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin in the not two distant future, whether it

593
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Speaker 2: be in Oxford, Mississippi, or somewhere else, is Lincoln Riley.

594
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: He is Tom Herman, He is Ryan Day. He is

595
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: a super star coach that still has twenty five plus

596
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: years left. That could be Lane Kiffin. Only thing that's

597
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: standing in the way Lane Kiffin. I pull for Lane Kiffin.

598
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm selfish in the reasons I pull for Lane Kiffin,

599
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: which are not hard to figure out. The thing about

600
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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin is, if I were to ask right now,

601
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give everyone watching five seconds and everyone listening

602
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: five seconds come up in your own words with your

603
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: opinion on Kiffin, and then I go one, two, three,

604
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Speaker 2: four or five.

605
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Speaker 1: Shoot.

606
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Speaker 2: A lot of you said I can't stand him, he's

607
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: a jerk, he's arrogant, whatever, and some of you said

608
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: I like him. None of you said, don't really have

609
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: an opinion one way or the other. Everyone has some

610
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: opinion of Lane Kiffin. Those are the best kind of

611
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: guys to have in the sport, and selfishly as a

612
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: guy who grew up covering the SEC when the conference

613
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: has been at its best, those are the kinds of

614
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: personalities that have been down here. But you don't have

615
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: to sacrifice football like you to have those persons. When

616
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: you pay the kind of money they pay in the SEC,

617
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: you can just get the best of both worlds. You

618
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: can draw the VND diagram and then you got the

619
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: best characters and the best coaches.

620
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Speaker 1: There's some overlap there.

621
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Speaker 2: Hang out in that area where the overlap is I

622
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: wanted to give you another story too.

623
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Speaker 1: The other night I told you it's a fascinating story.

624
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Speaker 2: I had a couple of radio shows that wanted to

625
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: bring me on just to retell the story. I was

626
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: on with Drew Dearman and the guys up in Huntsville

627
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: ninety seven seven ESPN Radio this morning talking about the

628
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen LSU Auburn game.

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Speaker 1: And all that happened afterwards.

630
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Speaker 2: Well, what I wanted to do tonight because some of

631
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 2: you Auburn fans very accurately reminded me, hey, remember what

632
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: happened the following year, because the opposite almost happened the

633
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: following year. So I'm going to go down that road

634
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I think we could do an entire episode

635
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: on just Auburn's twenty seventeen season. One of the most

636
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: fascinating seasons I've ever witnessed, and I witnessed it really,

637
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: really up close, because at the time I lived forty

638
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: five minutes to the east of Auburn, Alabama, So that

639
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: was the program that I was probably closest to. I'll

640
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: start by saying this, for a long time, LSU fans

641
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: and Auburn fans were getting good results. They were nine

642
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: win caliber programs, and their fans were so frustrated. And

643
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: I was always in a unique position because, on one hand,

644
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: someone that's a produced fan would say, you guys are

645
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: so myopic down there. Do you know what we would

646
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: do to have nine wins? We'd love to have nine wins.

647
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: But I always understood it. I always understood it because

648
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: I knew the investment at LSU, and I'm not talking

649
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: about from an athletic department standpoint. At Auburn and at LSU,

650
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: you guys were looking around. You were seeing your biggest

651
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: rival in Alabama rock up national championships, and they're in

652
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: the hunt every year even when they don't win it,

653
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: and you're thinking to yourself. When that request comes every

654
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: summer and I fill out my donation check, I do

655
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: the same thing as my b Bamma buddy does. And

656
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: when I'm asked to attend functions, I do it just

657
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: like my Bama buddy does. And when I look at

658
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: our budget and how much we invest into football in LSU,

659
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: we do it just like Alabama does.

660
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: We care just as much as they do.

661
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: And from a fan standpoint, I give financially and emotionally

662
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: every bit as much as my Alabama buddies do. But

663
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: my return on investment does not match that of my

664
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Alabama buddy. Now, this is twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen LSU

665
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: and Auburn mentality. That's not hard to understand, guys. In fact,

666
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: it's very relatable. You invest, you want to return. It's

667
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: as simple as that. It's no different in fandom than

668
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: it is in stock. It's no different than it is financially.

669
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: The principle is understandable. Where the rubber meets the road

670
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: is you just so happen to have a guy at

671
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: Alabama who's really really good, but fans don't want to

672
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: hear that. So on one hand, I understood the frustration.

673
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: On the other hand, you go, yeah, but and then

674
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: they don't want to hear the butt. Twenty seventeen Auburn.

675
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: I thought it was a very impressive team. For some people,

676
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't good enough. But I want you to remember

677
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: what happened, and then I'm gonna give you a little

678
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: behind the scenes from the LSU game.

679
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Speaker 1: They opened number twelve.

680
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so high expectations on the planes. In twenty seventeen,

681
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: they had a new coordinator offensively named Ship Lindsay. They

682
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: had a new quarterback by the name of Jarrett Stidham

683
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: who was transferring from Baylor. Week two, they go to Clemson,

684
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: Clemson's fresh off national championship. They lost fourteen to six.

685
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: That Clemson team would go on to the playoff again

686
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: that year. They didn't lose again until they got to

687
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Week seven, So they're five and one. This Auburn team

688
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: goes to LSU five and one. They go up twenty

689
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: to nothing and proceed to lose the game twenty seven

690
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: to twenty three.

691
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: These are highlights of that day.

692
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: About midway through the second quarter, it had the feel

693
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: of an absolute blowout.

694
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna rip.

695
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: LSU's throw down on live TV and then just hold

696
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: it up above their head and let the blood drip

697
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: down their chest. That's the kind of feel it had early.

698
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: That's not how the game ended. Well, me being the

699
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: person I am, I left the field midway through the

700
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: second quarter because I wanted to beat the line in

701
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: the press box for the halftime meal, because no one

702
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: does halftime meals better than the folks in Baton Rouge,

703
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: which I don't think comes as surprise to many people

704
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: who've ever been down there. And all of a sudden,

705
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: I get to the press box and the score at

706
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: halftimes ls you just put two scores on the board.

707
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: So I said, oh, well, it turns out we are

708
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: going to play the second half here. And they shut

709
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: Auburn out in the second half, and they go on

710
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: to win twenty seven to twenty three. And boy, oh boy,

711
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 2: what a postgame scene, because the Auburn sideline and the

712
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: Auburn team was about as shell shocked as any team

713
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: I've seen in quite some time. And so, just as

714
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: I did the year before, I didn't follow the winning

715
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 2: team that day. I got the sense that I probably

716
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: need to stick with the losing team here, so I

717
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: went into Gus Malson's press conference. That's the most vivid scene.

718
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: This is what you don't get to see.

719
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm standing there. It's a very smart listen.

720
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: One of the things that I love about the road

721
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: in college football is it's a true home field advantage.

722
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Home accommodations are palatial, they're great, they're phenomenal, to spare

723
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: no expense. The road accommodations are broom closets, and so

724
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: at LSU, you got a room that is smaller than

725
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: the studio I'm sitting in right now. In this studio,

726
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: Colin makes it look big. It's not all that big.

727
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: And there's no air circulation. It's really hot in there.

728
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: And most coaches, wives, Christie Malson included, go to all

729
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: the games on the road and they're there. You don't

730
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: see them, but they're just off to the side. They're

731
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: in full Tammy Whye net mode. And so Christie Malson's

732
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: there and she's leaned up against a wall, win or loose,

733
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: and the Auburn and some of the Auburn beat guys

734
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: are talking very loudly and they're just trash in Malson

735
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: and she can hear it.

736
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: She's well within earshot. Okay.

737
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: That's burned into my mind the rest of the year

738
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: because I'm standing there thinking to myself, look at her,

739
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: man like, she can hear this, And she didn't even

740
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: look up. So that was what it was. And leaving there,

741
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: there was no bye week. Auburn had to go right

742
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: back out on the road. The talk all week was

743
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: not if but when Malson's fired at the end of

744
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: the year, who is Auburn getting to replace him?

745
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: There were already hot boards on the Auburn message boards.

746
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: There were already hot boards of potential replacement head coaches

747
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: bookmarked the Christie Malson moment because it's going to be important.

748
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: About five weeks later, they go on the road.

749
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: They smash Arkansas, which in and of itself I thought

750
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: was impressive because Malson was able to get his team

751
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: right back off the deck. That was when I knew

752
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: their season wasn't dead. That was the big question mark

753
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: game to me, because if their season was dead, then

754
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: they'd get rolled by Arkansas.

755
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: No matter how bad Arkansas was. They didn't.

756
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: They crushed Arkansas. Then they beat Texas A and M.

757
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 2: I think it was like forty seven to forty two

758
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: that game. You talk to anyone close to the Auburn program,

759
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: they knew that they had all the fabled momentum, which

760
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: I think is an overused term. Whatever the juice is

761
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: that you need down the stretch. They felt like they

762
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: got it that game against A and M. And then

763
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: you know the rest. Number one Georgia comes into Jordenhre Stadium.

764
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: A few weeks later, they got smashed forty to seventeen. Alabama.

765
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: Number one comes into Jorden here Stadium. They lose twenty

766
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: six to fourteen. Five weeks on the calendar have passed

767
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: since that moment in the postgame press conference where the

768
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: Auburn beat guys, not all, some of them are trash

769
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 2: in Malzon to the point where his wife can hear,

770
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: and the entire week following, the entire fan base is

771
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: ready to run him out of town on a rail.

772
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: Five weeks guys, this is college football. Five weeks later,

773
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: the entire fan base is behind him. There is a

774
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: ground swell of support from Malson, and Malson does, along

775
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: with his representation, exactly what he should do. They're headed

776
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: to the SEC championship game and they get on the

777
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: horn and they call university or Auburn University, excuse me,

778
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: and they say, it's time to talk contract extension. Not

779
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: after the season, right now. We want guarantees in place

780
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: before this Saturday. Because something had happened in Fetble, Arkansas.

781
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 2: There was a job opening there and they were ready

782
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: to offer Malason a lot of money.

783
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: So you had the groundswallow support.

784
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: You had a red hot finish to the season, wins

785
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: over your two biggest rivals when both were ranked number one,

786
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: and you had leverage, and Malson and his representation being

787
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: Jimmy Sexton, worked Auburn. They worked him, and they got

788
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: him a fat new contract extension. That again, if you

789
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: would have told me five weeks earlier, when his obituary

790
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: was being written in his postgame press conference, this dude

791
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: is about to exit this season with a Western Division

792
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: title and a huge new contract that guarantees him seven

793
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: million dollars a year, I would have thought.

794
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: You were crazy.

795
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: But yet you wouldn't have been crazy. You would have

796
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: just been totally accurate in how that season was going

797
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: to end. And let me tell you something about Gus Malzan.

798
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: I've been around him for every big game that he's

799
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: had since then. Some he's won, some he's lost. Gus

800
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: Malson has never appeared rattled to me since that time,

801
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: because he got Auburn, he got what he needed, he

802
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: got financial security, and from that point forward, those of

803
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: you familiar with his buyout and know exactly what I'm

804
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: talking about, he's been in full DGAF mode. Anytime that

805
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: someone talks about his job being on the line, he

806
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: just kind of chuckles, rolls his eyes and well, I'll

807
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: just coach as long as they want me to coach here,

808
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: and you know, if they fire me, I'll buy a

809
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: private island somewhere in the Caribbean because I can afford

810
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: to do it. At twenty seventeen season was wild. Guys,

811
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: keep in mind the other story I told you earlier

812
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: in the show that also happened in twenty seventeen. So

813
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: if you really want to kill time, just go back

814
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: and watch games from the twenty seventeen season. College football

815
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: is wonderful. I know a lot of you prefer the

816
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: pro game. That stuff does not happen in the pro

817
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: game the way it does here. We're going to be

818
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: back your Sunday night again. God willing, and security at

819
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: the building willing. We will be back your Sunday night.

820
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821
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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Payton, for Colin, for Aaron, for everyone else here.

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Speaker 1: This has been the late Get Cab. A great weekend