1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Taking a walk. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: I think you'd be a fool to think that you 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: know everything about what's actually going on, the magic happening 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: beneath the hood. 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 3: Essentially, there's a magnetic energy in the air when music 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: transcends the stage and pours into the streets, connecting people 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: in the most unexpected moments. On Buzznight and today, I'm 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: taking a walk, We're not just walking, We're soaring thanks 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: to the unmistakable voice and spirit of Sam Ryder. From 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: humble beginnings and viral covers to commanding the world's biggest stages. 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: Sam's journey is a testament to the power of passion, grit. 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: And gratitude. 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: Join us as we step into Sam's world, discovering the 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: stories behind the music and the moments that have truly 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: defined his extraordinary rise. 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: We'll be back at a bit after these messages. 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Taking a walk. 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: We are in rarefy. I'm taking a walk. We've got 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: Sam Righter on. Hello, Sam, what's up mate? 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: How are you doing you? 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm doing terrific. I'm talking to you so how 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 4: bad could I be doing it? I'm talking to you. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: We're not doing so bad, man. We're above ground. That's 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: what counts. 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: That's right, We're doing great, So thanks for being on 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: taking a walk. I want to let you kind of 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: twist your imagination around a little bit. I want to 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: ask you if you could take a walk with somebody 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: living or deceased, preference being a musical wish, but it 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be. 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, who would you pick to take that walk with? 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: And where would you take that walk? 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: That's a great question, I think stud So many names 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: are rushing to me right now, and then if I've 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: got to keep it in the musical sphere, would love 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: to take a walk with Freddie Mercury, you know. I mean, 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: I bet you've had that answer a lot. Have you 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: had that before? 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 4: I have had Freddy has has come up for sure? 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, well let's see if we can Let's 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: see if we can find someone else. 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: In that's all right? 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to like, yeah, I don't want to. 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to steal someone else's answer. So I'm 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: just trying to think some of my absolute favorite bands. 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: Pavarotti would be amazing. 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: Right, that would be amazing. And I must tell you 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: Sam that one is the first. 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: Okay, good, Yeah, let's let's yeah that would be sick. 50 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: Where do you think you would take that walk with him? Oh? 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: You know what, It'd be in some vineyard in Tuscany somewhere. 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: It'd be just late in the afternoon, kind of the 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: airs cooled off, and there's maybe I know we're seeing 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: little cars in the distance past, but a little feats, 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Very like of the area, 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: people just speeding about in those sitting down having some lunch, 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: having something nice to drink. He's probably got a show 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: or something like that. I'm just stoked to beat there 59 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: about watch him sing. Yeah, it sounds like a lovely 60 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: day to me. 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: I would like to be a fly on the wall 62 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: if I could. Yeah, yeah, that's perfect. Perfect. Well, congratulations 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: on the new single. 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that feeling never went away, 65 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: and you know the album coming later on towards the 66 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: Fall certainly, and big stuff going on always with you 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: headlining Wembley, which we'll talk about in November, and you 68 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: just played Glastonbury as well. 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: But I do want to ask. 70 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: You what's the earliest musical memory that you have and 71 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: who are what first inspired you to pick up a 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: guitar or start singing? 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: All right, so we're going to go back to Freddie 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: Mercury here, so it's like he's like a magnet right 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: to all of us. But I remember sitting in the 76 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: backseat and my mum and dad's car would have been 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: like an old red Volvo at the time. I can't 78 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: remember how old I was, but I was very young, 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: like first memory sort of age, you know. And I 80 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: remember singing along to Living on my Own by Freddie 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: Mercury when it was on the radio, specifically the I 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: Ain't gone the time, Where's mugg and busy? You know 83 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: that bit, but apparently used to drive my mum up 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: the wall singing that section the THEO and yeah, that 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: was my first memory of singing and also annoying someone 86 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: and they kind of go hand and have which is. 87 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: Well, I have to confess something, though I've confessed this 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: previously on the podcast. One of my favorite things that 89 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: happens on the podcast is when someone of inter national stardoms, 90 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: such as yourself, actually sings a bit on the podcast 91 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: that puts so much joy into my body I can't 92 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: even describe it. 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: So, what's one of your favorite songs? 94 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: One of my favorite songs, Well, let me think okay, 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: for let's go back to Queen and Freddie Mercury for 96 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: a second. 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 4: You're my best friend, I mean. 98 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: Oh oh ah, yeah, yeah, you make me live. 99 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing, my god, yeah, yea yeah yeah, but 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 4: there's so many my god? What is it about music? 101 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: Can you define? If someone was just. 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: Planted on a planet Earth and knew nothing about what 103 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: music is, what would you describe it as to them? 104 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: Because it's something we can't live without. 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not, isn't that? You stop the facts, right, 106 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: And it's just it's vibrating atoms in the air that 107 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: our ear drums make sense of, or certainly they they register, 108 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: and then our brains make sense of the chaos and 109 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: bring order to it, and we turn it into music. 110 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 2: It's crazy, that's mental, isn't it when you like boil 111 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: it down to what it actually is? Just this movement 112 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: in the air, and who knows, man, who knows why 113 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: we can out live about it? Well, it's true, right 114 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: because anyone booked, if anyone's making any sort of event, 115 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're selling shampoo somewhere or you're 116 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: kind of you're hosting this massive like yacht party. The 117 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: first thing, which I've never done, by the way, I 118 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: don't know if you have a buzz but not yet, man, 119 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: not yet. But the first thing people are going to do, 120 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: or like any charity organization or anything like that, first 121 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: thing people do. They get a venue, they get a date, 122 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: and they're like, right, who are we going to get 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: to play? Every single time? So it's this universal truth 124 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: that music is something that we all want, you know, 125 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: first thing you do, if you're at a wedding, you'll 126 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: be like stoke to dance later. 127 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: Well, And the fact is it's been proven over and 128 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: over again. I have this other podcast I produce that's 129 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: called Music Save Me, and it talks about the fact 130 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: that music has therapeutic healing power as well. Do you 131 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: subscribe to that thinkingly? 132 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule it out. I think you'd be a 133 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: fool to think that you know everything about what's actually 134 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: going on, like the magic happening beneath the hood essentially 135 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: of all this stuff like I've done. I've done a 136 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: fair bit you know of like the singing bowls and 137 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: mantra as well in the past, which is all just 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: music essentially, it's just sound. And I've found that to 139 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: be fascinating. Actually, I don't know if you know much 140 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: about like mantra workshops and things like that, but like 141 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: an old friend of mine he ran one, and I 142 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: just thought, you know, why the hell not, you know, 143 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: life's too short, go see this thing. And spent a 144 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: few days in Portugal sat in this room with maybe 145 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: thirty people in total, and you're just singing sanscrit and 146 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: everyone's sort of moving as one being. So you take 147 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: a breath in and you sing, and then you breathe 148 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: out and then you move forward and it's kind of 149 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: like you know that bit in Avatar when they're around 150 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: the massive tree up it ends up looking like that, 151 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: but you sat on lamin up flooring and uh and yeah, 152 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: you're just sort of you're one organism and one breath 153 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: and one being like with everyone in the room, and 154 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: you're you're singing. And it's funny because it's not about 155 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: singing well, because you've got to sing through your nose. 156 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: It's like going on bother like this, like through kind 157 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: of really pushing everything nasally. But yeah, it's really fascinating, 158 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: and it's kind of like this free, substance less high 159 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: that you get because you kind of I call it 160 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: fizzing up. You finish it and then you hold your 161 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: breath at the very end of the like of one 162 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: of the what would I call it, I guess like 163 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: sessions when you're you're singing like a mantra and you 164 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: finish it and then you hold your breath at the 165 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: end and you literally feel like a rocket launching into 166 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: the atmosphere. Is crazy. 167 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: Oh I love it. 168 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: I just I just feel like I went through the 169 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: atmosphere just now, just took you took me there. 170 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: I certainly recommend it to anyone that has sort of 171 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: heard of it and be like, oh, I might give 172 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: that a go, and yeah, it's it's the cool thing 173 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: for me was like to to understand this. You're you're 174 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: kind of part of this spiritual choir when you do that, 175 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? It's not about like 176 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: having the lead singer or anything like that, or even 177 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: being good at singing in any way. In fact, it 178 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: actually takes your voice into a place where you're more 179 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: like sounding vowels and not trying to sing with a 180 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: brato or like any technique. It's just you're part of 181 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: the the collective being in the room and fascinating, like 182 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: a very spiritual experience. 183 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 3: Actually, what was it like suddenly having your covers noticed 184 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: by you know, these these folks like Elton John and 185 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: Justin Bieber and I'm sure others. 186 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: What feeling was that? 187 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: Like? 188 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: Ah, man, hard to express it because you know what, dude, Like, 189 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: Before that happened, I just turned thirty one years old 190 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: and I was living it was lockdown at the time, 191 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: so I was me and my partner Lois had actually 192 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: just bought our first house, but it was in such 193 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: a state it needed to be totally renovated. And thank god, 194 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: myself and my dad are carpenters. That's where I sort 195 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: of learned a trade growing up, was with my dad. 196 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: So we'd be renovating this house, but it wasn't fit 197 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: to live in at the time. Like we had is 198 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: an old Victorian property that actually used to belong to 199 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: an old ship captain and like that in America, that 200 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: sounds fancy, right, like wow, that building's so old, but 201 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: that's kind of like part of the course. Over here 202 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: in the UK everything used to belong to someone like that. 203 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, it took us a while to do it. 204 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: So in that time I was living at home. Just 205 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: turned thirty, and I was getting to a place in 206 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: my mind and like making peaceful the fact that I 207 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: might not make it, you know, I like certainly in 208 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: music is what I'm what I mean, like, I've been 209 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: following this dream and trying everything leave being no stone 210 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: unturned since I was fourteen years old. I've been on 211 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: the road, been writing, been hoping, praying and scheming for 212 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: like any sort of crumbs of success. And I was 213 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: getting some every now and then, but never like the 214 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: big one, never the big loaf, just the crumbs. And 215 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: then I just started singing for fun, just into my phone, 216 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: being and kind of like free from the shackles of 217 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: that burdened you with the weight of immense pressure. Does 218 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: that make sense, Yeah, complex, I've finally sort of like 219 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: being like, you know what, I don't need that anymore 220 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: because this is just me now, just I'm a singer 221 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: that's going to be singing in his mum and dad 222 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: shed before I moved to my house, and maybe that's 223 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: where the magic was, like, and all I know is 224 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: I thank god it happened, man, and it truly changed 225 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: my life. I know that that is a phrase that 226 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: gets banded and thrown around incredibly liberally now and maybe 227 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: it's just because a lot of people's lives are changing, 228 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: but I can say from my experience that it truly 229 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: did change my life. 230 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: It's wonderful and it's I would almost bet I know 231 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: the answer to this question. So as you were forging 232 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: ahead back, you know when you were fourteen fifteen, were 233 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: you thinking, well, maybe I need a Plan B, or 234 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: were you just so steadfast in your dream that there 235 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: was no plan B. 236 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: Plan B was weddings. Well, I'd never not sing in 237 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: this life, Like I feel like, if God's put me 238 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: here to do anything, He's put all of us here 239 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: to do something. And if, like I believe that for me, 240 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: it's singing, Like I've known that since I was a kid, 241 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: since singing in my mum and Dad's guy, you know, 242 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: like that that was what I was following. And I'm 243 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: so lucky man that I found my purpose young. Some 244 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: people go through their whole life not finding what it 245 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: is that is their life's work and their sort of 246 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: their pursuit and their spark that kind of ignites whatever's 247 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: in the spirit. But I found that very early on. 248 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: And I think maybe the price everything has every action 249 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: has a reaction right in this universe, and maybe the 250 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: price I paid was that finding it so early just 251 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: set me on a long path. I think, you know, 252 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: you're never given anything you can't handle, but for it 253 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: to take as long as it did, I've got the 254 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: thickest skin I think in the game. I've been through 255 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: every sort of failure. Could imagine every setback, every knock back, 256 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: every like I've been through it now, So to again 257 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: stand in that shed singing into my phone, at peace 258 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: with the fact that that might not happen, and it's 259 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: okay because I won't stop singing, And really, who cares 260 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: other than that if I can sing, it just so 261 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: happens to be right that we all live in a 262 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: time of the Earth where there's a music industry. Rewind 263 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: the clock or fast forward it. Who knows what it's 264 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: going to be fast forward. But if we rewind like 265 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: one hundred years and you were singing, there's no music 266 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: industry back then at all. It's just singing. Rewind it 267 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: even further. Singing is a behavior, Dancing is a behavior. 268 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: Creating art is a behavior, not a pursuit, not a craft, 269 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: not a job. They're just behaviors. So yeah, I count 270 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: myself incredibly fortunate that I knew what it is I 271 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: wanted to do, and also I found the magic in 272 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: it man like that that can't be defined by any metric, 273 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: any sort of follow account number or chart placing or 274 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: streaming amount. 275 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: You know, we'll be right back with more of the 276 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a 277 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. 278 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: Well, your gratitude is an important piece that comes through 279 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: for sure, and it certainly indicates how grounded you are 280 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: in the midst of a very difficult business. 281 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: How do you practice gratitude daily? 282 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: Brah, empathy, kindness, trying to surround myself with people that 283 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: bring out the best qualities in me and hopefully I 284 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: can help do the same. I mean, that's what life's about. 285 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: And it's like, no one wants to be surrounded by 286 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: people that dim their spirit or take away from you. 287 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: You again, Also, I kind of haven't got any interest 288 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: in being around things that are overly cool as well 289 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: or living my life in constant fear of what my 290 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: perceived identity is again because it took me so long 291 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: to get here. But I know who I am, I 292 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: know my identity, I know what it is that lights 293 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: me up. I know what it is I value. I 294 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: know that any failure I've been through can't define me. 295 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: And I'm incredibly lucky to be here. So optimism and 296 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: hope and faith knowing that I've got a purpose and 297 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: knowing that I will live out the rest of my 298 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: life hopefully it's a long one, like aiming to fulfill 299 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: that purpose, you know, That's what keeps me grounded. 300 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 301 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: So if someone does not understand the term that you've 302 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: created in the genre that you've created called frontiers, saw 303 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: describe it. 304 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, frontis soul. So my granddad and I used 305 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: to watch and still do a lot old Westerns. It's 306 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: kind of our like favorite thing, you know. And I've 307 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 2: always been really enamored and fascinated with the old scores 308 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: in those films, and not just Westerns. Actually, if you 309 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: go back to like those that Golden era of Hollywood, 310 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: like Cleopatra and Jason and the Argonaut, so like stuff 311 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: like that, that the scores in those movies really enjoyed, 312 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: and even like the way they were shot and filmed, 313 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: and the colors in them, like super saturated blue skies, 314 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: and everyone's got the mad amount of fake tan on 315 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Just those movies I really enjoy, 316 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: like where the kind of credits are obviously hand painted 317 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: on a projector or something like that, and when they 318 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 2: come up, the orchestra kicks in and then you know, 319 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: if you're chatting about Lawrence of Arabia, there's like a 320 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: big intermission in the middle of it where it literally 321 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: comes up and says intermission, and the orchestra come in 322 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: and played the theme like that. For me is the 323 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: frontier aspect, like these very lush soundscapey strings that you 324 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: can almost see the vista in front of your eyes, 325 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: and soul it goes about saying it's soul music. It's 326 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: just from the heart, it's from the spirit itself. You know. 327 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: It's anything sung with passion, with meaning and with truth. 328 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: So for me, that's what singing is all about. So 329 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: soul music doesn't just have to be whether it's like 330 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: genre defined as soul music. It's about the feeling like 331 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: anyone can have song. In fact, we all have soul. 332 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: We just we choose to express it or by avoiding 333 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: it through being inauthentic, we fail to express it. So 334 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: that's what frontier soul is is. Mixing a little bit 335 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: of the desert, a little bit of that dust, a 336 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: little bit of those twenty Tarantino guitars, in with passion, 337 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: with feeling and with truth. 338 00:18:59,160 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 339 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: Take us inside the creation of feeling Never Went Away, 340 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: which is absolutely tremendous. 341 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: Man, Thank you so much, dude. So Feeling Never Went 342 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: Away was a song I wrote with my friends John 343 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: Green and Mickey Echo, and it was very like I 344 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: had this idea of this phrase was in my head 345 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: for a while, just the feeling never went away. And 346 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: I find that's quite an interesting concept to me, Like 347 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: what does that mean? Is that good thing? Is it 348 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: a bad thing? Is it a longing? Is it sort 349 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: of like a resentment? And then I had sort of 350 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: attributed to what was going on in my life at 351 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: the time. So I was just sat there with a 352 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: bass guitar and then we're just mumbling around. I think 353 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: John was on the piano and Mickey's just humming these 354 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: melodies and he's amazing at it, and I was something 355 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: came to me and I wasn't the feeling nevel well, 356 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: and we were just like, that's the light bulb moment, right, 357 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: that's our song, and now, just don't mess it up, 358 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: just nurse it home land a plane. At that point, 359 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: let's see what we can get. And it's about well 360 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: for me, when you write with other people, there's a 361 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: bunch of stories going in. A lot of people's baggage 362 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: gets thrown in on the same trolley, you know, when 363 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: you're writing, and so with other people. 364 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: So. 365 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: The cocktail becomes this heavy mix. But for me, it's 366 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: about understanding and making peace with the fact that you 367 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: might not have exercised all your demons, yet they're still there. 368 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: They still kind of bubble up and show their faces 369 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: every now and then. But that doesn't define you as 370 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: someone that hasn't managed to relinquish yourself of their grip. 371 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: Because I think all of us have angst in us, 372 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: we just the same as all of us have kindness 373 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: in it doesn't mean we show it all the time, 374 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: you know, because these these are choices, and they're based 375 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: on so many factors, whether it's the environment around us, 376 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: the people that we're in contact with, the day we're having, 377 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: you know, all those things. So and for a long 378 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: time over the last year, I felt a lot of 379 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: doubt and a lot of I guess beating myself up 380 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: and I've really been I guess, given myself a hard time. 381 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: So I'm like hitting myself twice because one, I've got 382 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: the feeling, so I see your first punch. And then 383 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: two is I'm annoyed at myself for letting myself have 384 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: the feeling. You know, I feel like I've let myself 385 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: down by letting this sort of self doubt and self 386 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: criticism make its way through the force field of my gratitude, 387 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, and my peace and my presence, because I 388 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 2: was raised to have those things. And I think it 389 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: was just the understanding of just because you're something a 390 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: lot of the time, which in my heart, I hope 391 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: to be kind most of the time. I hope to 392 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: be present, I hope to be patient. I'm definitely not, 393 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: you know, patience is a hard thing actually for me. 394 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: But you're also going to always come into contact with 395 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: the full spectrum of emotions, and when you do, the 396 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: important thing, buzz, I think is to say that I'm 397 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: feeling angry, I'm feeling upset, rather than saying I am angry, 398 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: I am upset, I am doubting myself because I am 399 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: is more of like you're identifying you are that person, 400 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: but rather you should just say I'm currently I'm fit. 401 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: It's like the weather. Currently I am feeling foggy with 402 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: a chance of rain, but I'm not going to really 403 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: it up forever. You know. Yeah, well foot no feelings 404 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 2: ever go away? 405 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: There you go. Well, it's brilliant. 406 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: What can we expect from the album later on down 407 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 3: the road? I know it's a little early to be 408 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: talking about it, but what can you share about what's 409 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: going to be happening album wise? 410 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: So the album comes out later in the year, and 411 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: we've got a massive shark Wembley Arena around just after 412 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: it gets released, So it's kind of like there's a 413 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 2: big road to Wembley happening at the moment, which I'm 414 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 2: sure we'll talk about later. But I think it's you 415 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: know what part of me is like, I want to 416 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: set goals and have ambitions and stuff like that. For 417 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: the record, of course I do. That's a normal thing. 418 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I don't want to pin 419 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to fence things in because I want 420 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: to try and go into that space I was when 421 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: I was singing into my phone. I didn't have any 422 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: like boundary lines set for that that was just for fun, 423 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 2: and I let life do its thing with those videos, 424 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: and there's this way more magic than I could ever 425 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: think up. So I hope the same for this. I 426 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: know the album is the best work I could have made. 427 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: I went through I guess mental hell and back to 428 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 2: make it. I there were times I didn't think I 429 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: was ever going to finish it, that I wouldn't be 430 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: sat here chatting about music so openly with yourself or 431 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: anyone else for that matter. But I think that that's 432 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: what making stuff takes out of you. It shouldn't ever 433 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: be easy, because it should be, you know, holding a 434 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: mirror up to the darkest parts of yourself and confronting 435 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: it and trying to put it into words in the 436 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: hope that you connect with someone out there that's listening 437 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 2: to it, that's going through the same. 438 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 3: You just played Glastonbury and then of course the road 439 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: to Wembley that you mentioned in November, which is unbelievable. 440 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: Explain to somebody who's never experienced the massive community that 441 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: you'll be in front of at those shows and what 442 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: that feels like that you're making so many people connected 443 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: and so happy. 444 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I just want to say, this 445 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: is my first podcast in the US, by the way, Hi, 446 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: five high five. And I guess a bunch of your 447 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: listeners some of them might have been to Glastonbury once 448 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: or twice. Oh yeah, but there's probably a lot of 449 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: people listening that have never been. Because I live in 450 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: the UK, I'm not far from Glastonbury really in the 451 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: big scheme of things. But this year was the first 452 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: year I'd ever been to play or just to be 453 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: there in general. I've never been. And it's hard to 454 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: explain how big that place is. They say two hundred 455 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand people are in that area, so essentially 456 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: it's like the city of Bristol in a field for 457 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: four days. How crazy is that? 458 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: Man? 459 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: So it's crazy, think of and it never stops. It's 460 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: just going and going and going. There's always someone to see, 461 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: someone playing. I mean obviously, like in the early hours, 462 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: it's dance tents that are just absolutely popping off. But yeah, 463 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: it's crazy. We did. And also no one just goes 464 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: there to play their show. That I did like five 465 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: secret sets throughout the time, and yeah, just really rung 466 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: out the Glastonbury flannel for everything it had in it. 467 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 2: And I wanted to experience as much of it as 468 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: I could. You know, it was so sick. 469 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: How do you prepare yourself for Wembley? 470 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Well, we're going through that right now. Actually. You know, 471 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: when you play a venue like Wembley as an independent 472 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: artist or someone on a major label, it doesn't matter. 473 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: You turn up there and that place is empty. There's 474 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: you got. You got to bring the stage, you've got 475 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: to bring the PA, you've got to bring the crew 476 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 2: that are going to rig up the PA, and obviously 477 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: all the normal things like your team, your sound, your monitors, 478 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: band like all that stuff. But I bet that some 479 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: people didn't know that. You know, like those venues are shells, 480 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: they're just warehouses until a band comes in and fits 481 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: all the speakers around like it's a It's a massive 482 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: undertaking and makes you realize why. You know, those tours 483 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: are grueling in the best way. You know, it's a 484 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: legendary spot like that patch of land in London has 485 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: played host to some of the most amazing artists and 486 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: creatives the world's ever seen. And to be there no 487 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: on November sixth is going to be not just a 488 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: dream come true. That's way too simple to print. It 489 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: like that, but it's it's going to be monumental for 490 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: me in my life. I'm so excited. And you know what, 491 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: it was the first place I ever saw a band 492 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 2: play as well, and who might keep ever be two? 493 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 2: It was Some forty one. Let me show you something 494 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: right now. Actually, I've got it here all right. This 495 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: is the ticket, oh wow, from playing Wembley see that, Yes, 496 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: Some forty one. And the reason I'm awkwardly covering up 497 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: some of the numbers in it. In fact, let me 498 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: do that one if you share anything online is that 499 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: it is because the seat number that I was in. 500 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna leave some in fun under that seat 501 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: for whoever gets it this time, because that night was 502 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: so special and so like life changing for me. I 503 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: was just a kid, probably fifteen years old, maybe me 504 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: and my friend Dan. Funnily enough, Dan is the guy 505 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: that gave me the scar on my head. He had 506 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: one too. We ran into each other when we were kids. 507 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: So me and him went to go and see Some 508 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: forty one together. First time seeing a gig. Had no 509 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: idea what to expect. I literally thought it'd be kind 510 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: of just like a small hall and everyone would sit 511 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: on the floor and watch a band as they came in. 512 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: That was it. When I got there and it's this massive, 513 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: like just almost church of rock and roll, you know, 514 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: and this band like miles away. Yeah, it changed my life. 515 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: I left that room knowing what I wanted to do, 516 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: and I can only hope that people come and see 517 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: us play on November sixth and leave feeling the same way, 518 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: because that was kind of like a for me, getting 519 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: a compass heading from the universe. I left, you know, 520 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: those doors, headed home and I was like, oh cool, 521 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: I know what I want to do with my time 522 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: on this earth. 523 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: Oh man, it's wonderful. I want to close with this. 524 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: Sam, you've you've spoken very candidly about panic attacks and 525 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: dealing with pressure. What helps you get through tough moments 526 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: and what advice would you give to others who might 527 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: be struggling with you know, similar challenges. 528 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: A man, I think for me, I say it all 529 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: the times as sorry for the deja vous, but it's 530 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: it has to be gratitude. It's just like the I 531 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: feel like the answer to everything, because to put yourself 532 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: in a space of gratitude, for me, is a space 533 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: of trust. And more importantly than that, like the relinquishment 534 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: of control because you don't have control of what's coming, 535 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: you know, whether it's in your health or just in 536 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: your environment around you. Seldom do any of us have 537 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: the control that we think we do. You know, we 538 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: only are kind of able to change something within our 539 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: small orbit. But that doesn't make it insufficient. You know, 540 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: that is incredibly substantial, because I think you realize that 541 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: with the right people around you, you can do amazing things. 542 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: And for me, that's just what I always try to 543 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: come back to if I ever like I'm in a 544 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: dark place and I'm feeling I don't know, like to 545 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: be candid man. Over the last year I say about gratitude, 546 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: I needed to take my own advice so many times 547 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: because I was off the routes. I was falling and 548 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: spiraling into a darkness I've never experienced in my life before, 549 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: and I had no idea where it came from, because 550 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: I'd always been this person that was like, I'll find 551 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: and the optimistic way of looking at it, you know, 552 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: I will see the silver line in the clouds. I 553 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: will find my resilience and the center of myself and 554 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: my self worth to move through anything that life froze me. 555 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: I was always that guy, and then in all of 556 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: a sudden, I am just like bedrock, you know, And 557 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: to claw out of that, I can't express like how 558 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: when you're in that space, life feels meaningless. Everything around 559 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: you feels meaningless. It is the epitome of an existential crisis. 560 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: And you're like, where did this come from? What did 561 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: I let in to make me feel like this? And 562 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: sometimes you don't know the answer, and that's hard because 563 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm terrified that could happen again. You know, in my life, 564 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: I've never had it as bad as that before. The 565 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: part of me that wants to control something wants to 566 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: understand why, so I can almost I can figure out 567 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: how to build the fences so it can never get 568 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: in again. But I can't, and knocking you and knocking 569 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: anyone else listening. You know that, And that is making 570 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: peace with that and knowing that you don't have the control. 571 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: I think is it brings out the necessity for hope 572 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: and faith and gratitude, because it's accepting that if I 573 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: ever go down in those depths again, in those fathoms, 574 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: I know someone's going to be looking out for me. 575 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: I know that I can turn to I can turn 576 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: to prayer, I can turn to my loved ones, I 577 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: can turn to my gratitude and sense of purpose. Does 578 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: that make any sense? I just tried to know. 579 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: It makes a thousand percent sense. 580 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: And you know I have tremendous gratitude for this moment, 581 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 3: speaking with you, connecting with you, And I know if 582 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: you did go down that path you justscribe, you'd have 583 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: a lot of people that you've made happy and continue 584 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: to make happy. That would be sending the energy your 585 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 3: way to lift you out of that. 586 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 587 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 3: I truly believe that, and I'm so grateful to have 588 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: this opportunity to speak with you. It's been wonderful and 589 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that you came on the Taking a 590 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: Walk podcast. 591 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 4: Sam Right, I'm. 592 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: Grateful you gave me a seat on the spaceship known 593 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: as the Sam Ryder Spaceship, which is on its way 594 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: to places unknown but big places. 595 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: So thank you so much, God bless bus. 596 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: You take care of yourself. Man. Thanks for having me 597 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: on your podcast, and hopefully I'll see you when I 598 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: come to the US next because I live in Nushville. Now, 599 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm like Halftime in the UK and Nushville so maybe 600 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: we'll bump into each other at a show. 601 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: And I love Nashville too, so as Tom. Thank you, 602 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 3: Sam Blessing. 603 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 604 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 605 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 606 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 607 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: and wherever you get your podcasts.