1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Show Monday Edition. I hope all of you had fabulous weekends, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: You had incredible times, and you lived your life as 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: normal freedom loving Americans would as opposed to being curled 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: up in the fetal position terrified. As eighteen months of 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: COVID continues to spiral left wingers insane, we got a 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: ton to get into today, Buck Sexton and I do 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Obama had a party. Hundreds of people were there. None 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: of them wore masks, but according to a CNN expert, 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. See COVID new it was a sophisticated crowd. Really, 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna break all of that down for you. Also, 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: the battle over masks in schools. I've said it's going 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: to be a revolution. Moms, dads, everybody lining up, including 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: in my hometown. We will talk with doctor McCarry from 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: the Johns Hopkins School. He's got a great op ed 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal arguing this morning. If you 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: haven't read it already, guess what, masks don't work in 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: schools with kids. We will talk with him. Tucker Carlson 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: is scheduled to join us in the third hour of 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: the program, and we knew it was gonna happen. Bucks 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: an expert on this, and we're gonna talk about it 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the program. Afghanistan has fallen even 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: more rapidly than even the most dire forecast had been 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: had been put out there. The Taliban has basically taken 26 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: over much of the country already. And I promise you 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: on this story, this is going to make you laugh. 28 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to throw up your hands. It's a 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: perfect curb your Enthusiasm episode if you're a Larry David fan. 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Major controversy over the weekend surrounding an alleged racial slur 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: wasn't actually a racial slur. Someone was calling out the 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: name of the mascot at the Colorado Rockies. We will 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: discuss that story and more, But Buck, the Obama party 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: has taken over. And if you watch some of the 35 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: videos that manage to get filtered out before they all 36 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: got deleted, I don't know about you, but this looked 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: pretty much like a normal birthday party would have if 38 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: you happen to have a hundreds of people have a 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: twelve million dollars beach place and have one of the 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: largest tents I've ever seen erected for the party. It's 41 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: almost like the elites expect us all to live by 42 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: rules that they themselves don't take seriously at all, or 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: they think themselves exempt from. And now this has become 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: the actual standard. I think you could and should argue Clay, 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: that's where we are as a country when you see 46 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: all the different people who were huge advocates for Fauciism 47 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: mask up, locked down social distance, believing all of this claptrap, 48 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, all this absolute malarkey, and then in their 49 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: own lives it was well, I mean, come on, no 50 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: one's really that worried about that, whether it's Gavin Newsom 51 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: at French laundry, or Laurie Lightfoot getting her haircut, or 52 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi getting her hair done, or Gretchen Whitmer's husband 53 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: trying to get the boat launched out early because his 54 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: wife is the governor. Or. I mean, we could just 55 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: go down the whole is the biggest advocates of this, 56 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: and let's not forget there was actually the the colleague 57 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: of doctor Fauci who used to wear remember the other 58 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: doctor used to wear the doctor Burkes Doctor Deborah Burkes 59 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: used to wear the fancy scarves. And she just decided 60 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: to bail after it came out that she went for 61 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I think it was Thanksgiving. Yeah, she was like, I'm done. Traveled. 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: She traveled with her whole whole family to a shore 63 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: if I remember right, like it was Jersey or Delaware. Yeah, 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: she went somewhere where they had a house. But the 65 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: point is that she just was like, you know what, 66 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to take the heat for this 67 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: anymore because yeah, I'm full of it, and you know, 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: and like I give up, right, Whereas Fauci has an 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: endless tolerance for the bullcrap. But the Obama Party's fascinating 70 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: because if you were trying to find and Clay, can 71 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: it really be a gathering of the elites if neither 72 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: you nor I was in it? A great point, you know. 73 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: But if you're looking for a place that is like 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Davos in the US, right, that's the the old truck 75 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: globalist elites all and and you know, the cultural and 76 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Hollywood and entertainment royalty all gathered into this country in 77 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: one place, it would be Barack Obama's sixtieth birthday party, 78 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: which I do have to laugh. It's a little funny 79 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: having spent a little bit of time myself on Martha's Vineyard, 80 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: knowing that actually dated a towny when I was in college. 81 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: I've never been. What's it My college girlfriend was a 82 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: was a vineyard towny. So I would go legit like 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: a year round her. Yeah, so I would go in 84 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: the off season. It's amazing in the off season. It's 85 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: it's incredible because all this beautiful beaches at all. It's 86 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: a little co but anyway, but there's not a lot 87 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: of roads there. There's a lot of traffic. Point here being, 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: point here being. I started to get a little nostalgic 89 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: for being back in the beach and cup I'd love 90 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: to go. I've never visited. I'm not elite enough to 91 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: have even visited the vineyard before. You've got to take 92 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: missus Travis. It's beautiful that in Nantucket too, beautiful islands 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: off the East coast of the United States, off of Boston. 94 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, it was amazing, Clay to 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: watch how in epic gas lighting fashion all of these 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: different media Alice and everybody were I mean, what's the 97 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: big deal, guys, what's the what's the big problem. Obama's 98 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: gotta have a party. You know, He's gonna have Steven 99 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Spielberg and Erica Badoo and Bradley Cooper and all the 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: fanciest of the fancy. They got to be able to party. 101 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, so what if we're telling you that everyone's 102 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: gonna die from COVID who's not vaccinated in like weeks. 103 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: So what if we're saying your children need to be 104 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: massed up for eight hours a day, or that you 105 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: had to say goodbye to your loved ones on zoom 106 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: a year ago because it was just too dangerous to 107 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: see them, even for a even with masks, even with 108 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: everything else. Here was the best one though. And I 109 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: know this was just great because sometimes a New York 110 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: Times reporter will just hit the center of the bull's 111 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: eye by accident, and here you go. Other people said, 112 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, this is really being overblown. They're following all 113 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: the safety precautions. People are going to sporting events that 114 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: are bigger than this. This is going to be safe. 115 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: This is a sophisticated vaccinated crowd, and this is just 116 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: about optics. It's not about safety. I want to start 117 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: wearing a T shirt that says sophisticated vaccinated individual, so 118 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: I can get out of all the rules. You know 119 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, sophisticated vaccinated baby put a hat on. 120 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: Maybe you know you're good. It is so so she 121 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: just said what she really thinks, which is everybody else 122 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: that is not of her ILK is a total rube. 123 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: They are a deplorable they are They're from the Red States, 124 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: they live in the middle part of the country. There's 125 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: several things that I love about this party, buck, but 126 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: I want to start with this one. They said that 127 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: they dialed back the number of people who were invited. 128 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't know whether that actually was true or not, 129 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: but how did they go about telling people that had 130 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: been invited that they didn't make the cut for the 131 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: more exclusive list when clearly there were tons of super 132 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: celebrities Like maybe maybe I'm wrong, and maybe Bradley Cooper 133 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: and Barack Obama are just best buds. They're texting all 134 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: the time. They are just inseparable, right, But Bradley Cooper 135 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: and my understanding is around my age forty two year 136 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: old Hollywood superstar. I don't think he's married, I don't 137 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: think he has kids. I mean, he sometimes is described 138 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: as the poor man's Clay Travis. Well, that's accurate, right. 139 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: I don't think he's married. I don't think Bradley Cooper 140 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: has kids. He's a talented actor, but what could he 141 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: really have that much in common with the President of 142 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: the United States, who's sixty right, twenty years age difference. 143 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: Barack Obama's got young, you know, grown kids. Now he's 144 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: been married for thirty years or whatever the heck he 145 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: has been, like Bradley Cooper is am I right, I 146 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: don't think Bradley Cooper's even ever been married. He's a 147 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: perpetual Hollywood playboy. Like if you are David axel Rod, 148 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: for instance, and you have spent your entire adult career 149 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: working with Barack Obama and he evidently gets kicked off 150 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: the guest list for Bradley Cooper. I'm not an expert 151 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: on the Axelrod Obama relationship, but it seems like they 152 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: probably know each other a lot better than Barack Obama 153 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: knows Erica Badou, for instance. Just tossing it out there, 154 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I would just say this is more a 155 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: branding exercise than a birthday rights. It's about elevating the 156 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: continuation of the Obama brand, which is a hundreds of 157 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: lillions of dollar value media, political, and entertainment brand, as 158 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: we know in the Netflix deals and everything else. But 159 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: just taking us back here for a second, if I 160 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: can to what happened the people who are supposed to 161 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: be whatever you want. I mean, look, journalism is a 162 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: fraud in this country. As we know. There are some journalists, 163 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: but overall, the profession of journalism is make believe. It's 164 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: just propaganda. But they were willing to say things like well, 165 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: they're vaccinated, as if we have not had weeks now 166 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: of being told, you know, by Little Fauci. Even if 167 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: you've vaccinated indoors in a congregate setting with the droplets aerosolized, 168 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: there's a probabilistic futuristic possibility of the inclusion of you know, 169 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: and you're saying, hold on, I thought we're dumb and 170 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: we're vaccinated, and they said, actually, you're not done in 171 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, certain places, And now they're saying, well, I mean, 172 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: you aren't done if you're at the Barack Obama party. Though, 173 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: this is why how much of this whiplash, how much 174 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: of this obvious bullcrap can people see before it's it's 175 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: just too much to stuff like anymore, Clay, that's really 176 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: where we are. I want to hear so two more 177 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: things that stood out to me about this buck in 178 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: addition to whoever's getting cut from the list, who maybe 179 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: actual friends of Obama. They could have just made it 180 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: all outdoors. Why did they need the tent? Why couldn't 181 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and they could have had some sort of 182 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: colorable defense if they said, hey, it's an outdoor party. 183 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: They have I think, like thirty acres of land or 184 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: whatever the heck it is on Martha's vineyard, they didn't 185 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: need to make it indoors, all right. And then on 186 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: top of all that, right, as if all of this 187 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: is not ridiculous enough, you have a situation where for 188 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: weeks now we've been being told and we're gonna play 189 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: this clip for you. I can't wait to hear what 190 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: Jensaki is gonna say about this and Biden the White House, like, honestly, 191 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Barack Obama kind of threw them under the bus here. No, no, Clay, 192 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: they don't care, they don't care. They're they're going to 193 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: give the credit. They're Peter Doocey, who's gonna sit down 194 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: and actually grill sake, and we're gonna get a good 195 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: clip of her trying to spin this. But but they 196 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: don't need They're not even gonna spin it, is what 197 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying to you. They're gonna look the American people 198 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: in the eyes and say they adhere to all protocols 199 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: and they're vaccinated. Boom. They don't care, right, this is 200 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: the problem, Clay. They don't. It's not that we have 201 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh look, they're not obeying the standards, so now they're 202 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna feel bad and start. The whole point is that 203 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: Barack Obama and his friends and his people don't have 204 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: to obey the rules. I understand that argument, but I 205 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: think you still have to hammer them because they're like, 206 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, let's say forty percent of people out there 207 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: that are going to excuse no matter what Barack Obama does, 208 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: or the left wing Democrats, they're gonna excuse Corey Bush on, 209 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: defund the police, everything else. But I do think the 210 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: middle part of the country, right, those people who are persuadable, 211 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: they might vote Republican, they might vote Democrat. Hypocrisy does 212 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: register with them, particularly super rich guy hypocrisy, which is 213 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: what we got there. But First, what do you got 214 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: forrest buck, who's watching your money out there? I mean, 215 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: it's not your financial advisor. He's probably just hanging out 216 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: making sure that he does the bare minimum while he 217 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: takes the annual percentage, because that's how a lot of 218 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: this stuff works. A lot of Wall Street insiders, however, 219 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: a warning about a correction ahead, but they're not worried 220 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: about you, right, So it's your choice. 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Buck here and with me my main men, 237 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Clay and the double standards in hypocrisy and absurdity of 238 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: the Fauciites, the left, the lockdowners is just too much 239 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: to bear. Has been for a long time, and Clay 240 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: and I have been two guys who have even before 241 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: we were working together, see this the same way. So 242 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: we're going on eighteen months here of why can't people 243 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: just stop being crazy? But we don't have an answer 244 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: to that question, and we also don't have an answer 245 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: to how is it that the situational ethics of COVID 246 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: are going to continue to be applied in a way 247 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: that is just so obvious, Like, for example, the Sturgist 248 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: motorcycle rally. Clay, we know it's a it's a large event, 249 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: it happened last year. We were told, oh my gosh, 250 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: it's going to react with They're going to result in 251 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: all these terrible things. And doctor Fauci's even out there 252 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: now telling everybody you know, we got we gotta calm down. 253 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: We can't live life until I say so. The usual 254 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: stuff here is, well, I'm very concerned, Chuck, that we're 255 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: going to see another surge related to that rally. I mean, 256 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: to me, it's it's it's understandable that people want to 257 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: do the kinds of things they want to do, they 258 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: want their freedom to do that. But there comes a 259 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: time when you're dealing with a public health crisis that 260 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: could involve you, your family and everyone else. That's something 261 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: superceedes that need to do exactly what you want to do. 262 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to ultimately be able to do 263 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: that in the future. But let's get this pandemic under 264 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: control before we start acting like nothing is going on. 265 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: Something bad is going on. I mean, we've got to 266 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: realize that, Clay, I just feel like you could have 267 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: played that sound bite from Fauci, and he pretty much 268 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: has played it every day for about eighteen months now. 269 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: It's been the same thing from this guy. So what's 270 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: fascinating about this to me is this Sturgis rally is 271 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: mostly outdoors right in South Dakota, involving for people who 272 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: aren't really that familiar. A lot of motorcycle aficionados, no 273 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: question at all about Barack Obama having an indoor party 274 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: for hundreds of people for doctor Fauci whatsoever. And to me, 275 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: what this reinforces? And I know this is when the 276 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: idea of mass gatherings were completely lost forever. And for 277 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: many people out there. I know you were early on 278 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: the Fauci as a tyrant trade train to your conductor 279 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: of the you or the conductor of that trade. But 280 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: for many people it was hey when you started to 281 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: have protests against lockdowns, and everybody came out and said 282 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: these are very unsafe, particularly in Michigan against Scretchen Whitmer, 283 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: and everybody came out and said, these are unsafe, this 284 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: is impermissible, this is not reliable from a health perspective. 285 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: As soon as Black Lives Matter protest started in May, 286 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: they were fine. So that we had situational COVID, which 287 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: is the same thing that effectively that New York Times 288 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: reporter in the first segment we played, who said that 289 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Obama had a sophisticated crowd, so things are going to 290 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: be okay. As soon as you started arguing, well, some 291 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: crowds are okay, so long as what was being advocated 292 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: was permissible or endorsable for that component. And by the way, 293 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: this was all scientists who wrote pieces saying, well, crowds 294 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: are fine. Hundreds of thousands, millions of people can take 295 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: to the streets over Black Lives Matter protests, but the 296 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: idea that anybody would show up for any other reason 297 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: was impermissible. And it's just perpetuated an extended buck to 298 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: the point now where Fauci's still upset, because let's be honest, 299 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: the Sturgis motorcycle people vote Republican. That's when that's the react. 300 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: And that's also why recently Lallapalooza had enormous, enormous outdoor concert. 301 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean you can see photos of it. I mean, yeah, 302 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: it looks like one hundred thousand people all gathered together 303 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: for this massive Now it is, it is outdoors, but 304 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: let's all remember most of Sturgis is going to be 305 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: outdoors as well. And of course there's all these assumptions 306 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: baked into it that you can see from the media. One, 307 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: people that go to Lala Palouza tend to be left 308 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: of center their lives. They might be vaccinated Sturgish, those 309 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: are Maga Trump hat wearing motorcycle people. They're dangerous, Clay, 310 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: no doubt, it's just also transparently false. 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Walking back 327 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: in Clay, Travis buck Sexton appreciate all of you hanging 328 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: out with us as we roll through the Monday edition 329 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: of the program, we're gonna talk giving you a little 330 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: bit of a roadmap by the way of where we're headed. 331 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: Doctor Marty McCarry from Johns Hopkins will be with us 332 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: at the start of the second hour. He has got 333 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: a great editorial. I'd encourage you guys to read the 334 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal today about how masks on school children 335 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: don't work. There's no data to support it. And then 336 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: at the top of the third hour we are going 337 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: to be joined by Tucker Carlson. Should be a lot 338 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: of fun. That is what is coming down the road 339 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: of the program here on the Monday edition. But in 340 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: the meantime, Buck, we talked about this. We were forward thinking. 341 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: You in particular, have spent time over in the country 342 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: Afghanistan as the United States prepares to pull out all 343 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: of its last troops and we're not even one hundred 344 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: percent out of that country yet, but already the Taliban 345 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: has taken over vast segments of Afghanistan and it really 346 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: may well be a matter of time until it's like 347 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: the United States was basically never there, and once more, 348 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: we have created a fertile breeding ground for terrorists. Not 349 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: a good option. We're gonna have to leave at some point. 350 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: We can't be there in theory forever, But as soon 351 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: as you leave, it's like you were never there. Does 352 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: anything that you've seen so far surprise you, Buck, And 353 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: what happens now nothing is surprising in so far as 354 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: the overall trajectory of the deterioration, I mean, Afghanistan is 355 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: plunging into the chaos vortex even more rapidly than was anticipated. 356 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: There was an intelligence community assessment in June that said 357 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: the Taliban would likely take over the country within six months. 358 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: I think that's now a fair bet. I think you 359 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: could even say that the Taliban may be on the 360 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: outskirts of cobbles surrounding the final government holdouts by October, 361 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: maybe November, so they might not even make it to 362 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: the end of the year. This is the ongoing blitzkrieg 363 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: that they've had. It's not only rural areas. The Taliban 364 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: is seized half of the country by all the best 365 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: assessments that we have right now, but they've also seized 366 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: the number of provincial capitals, places like Saripol and Talikan 367 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: and Kundu's all in the north and Clay. That's significant 368 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: because we all remember what happened after nine eleven, two 369 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: thousand and one, we had US Special Forces and intelligence 370 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: personnel CIA and others who deployed U Afghanistan and worked 371 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: with the Northern Reliance and tremendous US air power to 372 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: roll up the Taliban and kick them out, and they 373 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: essentially were either killed or fled into Pakistan, the Pakistani 374 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: safe haven. Well, guess what they've learned a lesson now 375 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: instead of consolidating the Pashtood, which the Taliban is a 376 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: Pashtun entity of Pashtun tribe, instead of consolidating first in 377 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: the south and east of the country, which is their 378 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: traditional Taliban stronghold and homeland, they're actually going up north 379 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: into areas that had been our allies home bases when 380 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: we started this whole thing. So they're essentially eliminating the 381 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: possibility of us having a replay of what we did 382 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: before by seizing control first and foremost in the areas 383 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: where they have the least amount of control, So they're 384 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: seizing population centers. They're already on the outskirts of Kandahar, 385 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: which is in the south, the second largest city in 386 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: the country. They've had some major assassinations of government officials underway. 387 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: Almost got the Defense Minister of Afghanistan about a week ago. 388 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Complex attack with a car bomb, numerous gunmen with suicide 389 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: vests on. That's a classic tactic as well, right, So 390 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 1: they go and they shoot everyone they can, and then 391 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: if they get cornered or if they run out of 392 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: ammo or whatever, they decide to hit the suicide vest 393 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: plum or. They killed eight, wounded twenty in that, but 394 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: the Defense Minister wasn't home. Air strikes and Afghan special 395 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: forces have been able to blunt the offensive at some level, 396 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: not to stop it, but to slow it down a 397 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: little bit. But here's the huge problem we've got here, Clay. 398 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: We've moved not only the US military presence down dramatically. 399 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: We've only got a few hundred troops left in the country. 400 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: It's going to be at basically zero except for the 401 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: embassy here pretty soon. But we also have thousands of contractors. 402 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Now that might not sound as much of a critical piece, 403 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: but over a thousand of those contractors were aerial maintenance personnel, 404 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: the people that keep the planes and helicopters, the Blackhawks 405 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: we've given the Afghans keeps it flying up in the sky. Right, 406 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: can't fly the plane. It's no use to you can't 407 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: fly the heilo. You're done. What are they going to do? 408 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: The Afghans who are behind us are left behind us 409 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: saying we can make basic repairs the clay if they 410 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: lose that close air support advantage, and then which they might, 411 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: when then the next sixty days. Now you're just talking 412 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: about a village by village, city by city gunfight with 413 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: the Taliban the Afghan national security forces. It's going to 414 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: turn into a route pretty quickly. That's my concern. That's 415 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: all really well said. And I would say this as 416 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: someone who is nowhere near as sophisticated. I'm sure there's 417 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there listening to us who 418 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: are saying, Okay, why should I care, right, because it's 419 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: been twenty years and we've lost a lot of lives. 420 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: And the answer would be, the reason we went into 421 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: Afghanistan was to prevent groups like al Qaeda from being 422 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: able to be organized and plan attacks inside of the country. 423 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: And so the question that I would have for you Buck, 424 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: as someone who knows Afghanistan pretty well, because again you've 425 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: been over there, you followed it, you worked in the CIA. 426 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: Is there any reason to believe that Afghanistan is not 427 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: going to in short order become a fertile breeding ground 428 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: for terrorists one more time? Allowing maybe it takes eight 429 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: ten years a generation for another attack to be planned 430 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and implemented in the United States or elsewhere 431 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: in a Western democracy, is there any reason to believe 432 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: that we have created a situation where that's less likely 433 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: to occur again? Is there any reason for hope there? Well, 434 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 1: there is reason for a change in our thinking. I 435 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: believe about this because when we went into Afghanistan and 436 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: then the mission creep of nation state building and stabilization 437 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: operations became. I mean, that's why we've been there for 438 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: twenty years, right, This is we've been trying to hold 439 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: this country together. You know. Yeah, we're not creating a 440 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: Jeffersonian democracy. We all know that, but to have some 441 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: semblance of a normal member of the international community operating 442 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: as the nation state, the sovereign state of Afghanistan. But 443 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: we've also seen that there can be nests of jihadis 444 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: terrorists operating as within countries with some degree of safe haven. 445 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: And we can with strikes, particularly drone strikes, but also 446 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: special operations and intelligence activities keep them contained enough that 447 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: we have not had a mean, look, we've had a 448 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: number of years here where you have not had a 449 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: God forbid and you know, dare I say this out loud, 450 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: knock on wood, but we haven't had a major mass 451 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: casualty terror attack in a while now, certainly on the 452 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: scale of nine to eleven, I know we've had it. 453 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: We could talk Pulse Nightclub, we could talk some of 454 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: the vehicular mass casualty attacks. I mean, there have been attacks, 455 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: but a lot of those were actually homegrown extremists, were 456 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: radicalized by online propaganda or even what they call a 457 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: remote controlled plot where someone who's a foreign terrorist operative 458 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: and say Yemen is telling an American online, here's how 459 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: you do it, here's who you target. But putting that 460 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: aside for a second, there are relative terrorist safe havens 461 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: right now in Yemen, in the Sinai Peninsula, in northern Nigeria, 462 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: in Somalia. I mean, you go down this list and 463 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: we're not at all constantly feeling like we're on the 464 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: edge of an imminent attack. Now that could change in 465 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: a moment, and we all know that. But the hope here, 466 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: Clay is that with Afghanistan, with the amount of pressure 467 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: we can put on it, both from a surveillance and 468 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: an aerial asset perspective, we can make sure the Taliban 469 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: knows that providing safe haven, for example, to al Qaida 470 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: again and allowing external plots will result in massive retaliation, 471 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: the kind of which I'm not even sure we would 472 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: talk about here on radio because it's so horrifying. But 473 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: I think that's where we are. I think that's what 474 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: we're looking to do here because if we, by the way, 475 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: if the US does not decide to go back in 476 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: in the next six to twelve months, I'd give the talent. 477 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: I'd give the Afghan government, Ashraf Ghani and the Afghan 478 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: National Security forces ten percent shot they hold Kabble for 479 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: more than a year. This is one of those awful 480 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: situations where there are no good options. Right. We could hear, 481 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: by the way, from people who served in Afghanistan what 482 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts are as this process unravels eight hundred two 483 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: A two two eight a two eight hundred two eight 484 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: two two eight A two. We'll continue to talk about this, 485 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: Doctor Marty mccarry're going to join us in the near future. 486 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: In the meantime, if you're with AT and T, Verizon 487 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: or Tmobile, you're paying too much for your cell service. 488 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: Pure Talk on the exact same network with the exact 489 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: same towers as one of those big carriers, but for 490 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot less. 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Plus you get some insider access 519 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: sign up for EIB twenty four seven Clay and I 520 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: posting bids, their photos other things. And also you have 521 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: a special email address there for everybody eight hundred two 522 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: two two eight two on the phone lines. We'll get 523 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: to some calls in a second, but first I just 524 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: want to note that even some liberals, some of the 525 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: libs out there, are getting tired with how dishonest the 526 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: wokeness can be and what it means for critical issues 527 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: of public debate. Bill Maher, who is sometimes a heterodox 528 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: guy ideologically he's a man of the left, but he 529 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: does get tired of the insane wokeness and will sometimes 530 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: say things that I gotta say as a conservative, you go, yeah, 531 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: he's actually right about that. Here he is on how 532 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: wokeness will get people killed when it comes to the 533 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: origins of COVID. You said it doesn't get anybody killed. 534 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: I think it does. Defunding the police, I think came 535 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: from wokeness, and I think it'll get people killed. Tait. 536 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: A second, the Spectator says that the New York Times 537 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: refused to investigate they called the biggest story of our time. 538 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: They're talking about where the virus originated. Maybe it was 539 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: in the Wuhan lab, because they suppressed efforts to probe 540 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: the virus's origins for among reasons, because they thought it 541 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: was racist. You see, because everything is race Come on 542 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: at the New York Times, and so the paper of 543 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: record is not reporting what I would expect the paper 544 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: of record to report, the accurate news. That is an 545 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: example of the power of wepness. I mean, what an 546 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: intellectual betrayal. Clay for the New York Times. I mean, 547 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: just for people who work in the information and allegedly 548 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: journalism sphere, they say, we can't report on the truth 549 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: of the Wuhan lab league because racism. It's the biggest 550 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: story maybe in our lives, right. I mean, I don't 551 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: think that's an exaggeration depindion. I mean, there are people 552 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: out there who are lived through World War Two and 553 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: have been through other aspects of American history that may 554 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: be bigger. But for people out there that are fifty 555 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: or younger, I would say cod is the biggest story 556 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: of our lives. And where COVID came from, and by 557 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: the way, how to try to keep COVID from happening 558 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: again is the biggest story of our lives, and the 559 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: New York Times won't cover it because some of the 560 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: details might be uncomfortable to them. I mean, this is 561 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: like the whole thing with you know, we're calling it 562 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: the delta variant now, but we can't even mention the 563 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: parts of the world that viruses come from now because 564 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: it might be racist to even suggest where they came from. 565 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is madden. We're gonna have to rename 566 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: all of them too. We're gonna have to rename Zeka 567 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: and Bola and you knows right Spanish flu which actually 568 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: wasn't even really in Spain. That's a whole other thing. 569 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's get to it, because I know we 570 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: want to take some call some folks on a range 571 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: of issues, but Afghanistan specifically. And we got Dog in Ohio. 572 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: Who has I will say, because I know what he's 573 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: gonna talk about A brilliant point to make that I 574 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: would totally wholeheartedly agree with Dog. Go ahead, what do 575 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: you got, hey, guys, I just want to say, you know, 576 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: I was in As twenty twelve and I had talked 577 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: to guys that had fought the Taliban, had fought the Russians, 578 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: had been there for thirty years fighting, and they said, 579 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: until you fight Pakistan, there is nothing going on. Antigan 580 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: stopped the I and I from funding the Taliban. This 581 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: was never gonna be a win. It was a complete 582 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: waste of time. Yeah, the Pakistani is SI, the Inter 583 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 1: Services Intelligence Agency, has been playing a double game against 584 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: us all along. We all know it. They there's no 585 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: way that they were not aware that Bin Laden was 586 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: just down the road from what the equivalent of Pakistan's 587 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: West point is okay, and a Bodabad named for a 588 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: British British colonel. I believe it was back during the 589 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: days when the Brits were fighting the Afghans. Dog. First 590 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: of all, Matt, thank you for your service. And I 591 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: just also want to say thank you for bringing up 592 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: the critical point which was true when I was in 593 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: Afghanistan ten years ago, that as long as the Pakistani 594 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: let me think about this, Clay, you're trying to do 595 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: stability operations at a country where the ideas you put 596 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: so much pressure through counterinsurgency on the bad guys this case, 597 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: the Taliband, that they effectively crumble. They have nowhere to 598 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: go if they always can just run across the border, 599 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: which they could and did to not only a place 600 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: where we can't get them, but where they'll be trained, well, 601 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: they'll be equipped, where they'll get money. That's that's what 602 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: situation was in Pakistan. It's like if we were fighting 603 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: an insurgency in America against communists. You know, if we're 604 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: fighting like Red Dawn style against an invasion, but the 605 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: bad guys could always come over the border from Mexico 606 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: or Canada, you're never gonna win. Yeah. Not only that, 607 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they think in terms of hundreds of years 608 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, and that's just a you heard people talk 609 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: about that. I talked to a bunch of soldiers who 610 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: have been over there as well, and that's what they 611 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: came back with is we think in terms of years, 612 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: they think in terms of decades, they think in terms 613 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: of generations, and they knew based on what had happened 614 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: with Russia that sooner or later, no matter how powerful 615 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: the group is that is coming into their country, they're 616 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: going to leave. Let's get to one more here, Ivan, 617 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: another active duty ivan in Naples, Florida. How are you doing, Ivan, Hey, 618 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm good today. We're good man. What's on your mind? 619 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: So I just want to say that I think the 620 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: way we're putting people out based on this administration is responsible. 621 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: And I just say that because I did serve over 622 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: there in Bagram in two forteen twenty and fifteen, and 623 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: I believe that Bagram Airfield is going to be one 624 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: of the weakest points as soon as we get out 625 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: of that place, right, Well, we handed it over, right Ivan. 626 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we basically left in the middle of the 627 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: night and it was already it was picked over by 628 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Scavengers the next day exactly. So I think I says 629 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: is gonna get it over. I mean, I save within 630 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: the next three to four months. I think that's gonna 631 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: be a good stronghold prices, to be honest, So I 632 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: was I say it was irresponsible to do it that way. 633 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I believe we should get out, but that's 634 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: the way we're getting out right now. Ivan. Thank you 635 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: for your service and thanks for sharing your perspective on 636 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: this one play. I'll tell you this, if there is 637 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: a veteran out there by the way or active duty 638 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: who wants to tell us how short of you major 639 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: US military, you know, reintervention, we could stop this. I 640 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: would really want to know, because I haven't heard that 641 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: from anybody, so I'm curious to see. But this is 642 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: why the biggest challenge is right, if we don't, we 643 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't be there forever. But simultaneously, as soon as we leave, 644 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: it's like we've never been there at all. There is 645 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: no win here, right. The balancing act is so difficult. 646 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: We got Marty doctor Marty McCarry joining us here in 647 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: just a few minutes to talk about is there a 648 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: medical basis for your kids to be masked up in school? 649 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: And are there medical reasons not to mask up your 650 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: kids in school? You know this is important to Clay, 651 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: it's important to me, and I'm sure to all of 652 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: you as well. Will dive into that. Plus to late 653 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: us on the budget, the Green New Deal nonsense and 654 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: more that's coming up. You're listening to Clay, Travis and 655 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton fund the EIB Network