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Speaker 2: the top of the show. Bucky Alex is on the board.

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Speaker 2: He has not slept in three days. Okay, so Alex

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Speaker 2: has been working literally around the clock. I did not

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Speaker 2: expect to see you here this early, Alex.

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Speaker 3: Well, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: I heard that you slept in your car. Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if sleeping is the term I'd use,

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Speaker 3: but I was in the car.

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Speaker 2: How about that? This is this is the kind of

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm sleeping the car, though, it depends.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a comfortable car, Alex?

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Speaker 5: so you were cuddling with the car, I mean, if

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Speaker 3: Don't judge. Oh that's a lot. All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, whatever works for you. I mean I'm a big

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Speaker 5: Well, I made sure to tell them I need at

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Speaker 5: do this.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that. Alex is good to have you here.

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Speaker 2: We got Manci here, and oh, Brandon finally showed up

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Speaker 2: here he is, here's our man, here's our brilliant producer,

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Speaker 2: Brandon coming in as well. All right, so a lot

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Speaker 2: of things going on on this Saturday. We'll cover every

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Speaker 2: story that we can get to. Obviously, the big story

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Speaker 2: coming off last night was a Wembin Yama victor making

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Speaker 2: Way, I'm glad. I'm glad you mentioned this whole. Did

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Speaker 2: So basically what happened was she still thinks that people

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Speaker 3: She's just a lady. Who's the older lady right?

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Speaker 2: Who is coming up from behind him touching my back,

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Speaker 2: No. He was asked specifically about, you know, as a

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Speaker 2: He just is not an NBA condition. Now that's something

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Speaker 3: Toughness, you can enhance it. You can put uplay an

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Speaker 3: And if you're telling me that Winby's a seven to

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Speaker 2: very curious on how Pop is going to approach this

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Speaker 2: this is a nineteen year old, frail bodied, hit frail, frail.

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Speaker 2: We talk about toughness, right and understanding that he's going

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Speaker 3: You gotta put him out there. The only way that

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Speaker 2: So you gotta have players. But this is my biggest

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, I canceled all my

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Speaker 7: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem.

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Speaker 7: That's what people tell me.

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Speaker 4: He said, it's a fun or the fact. He's like,

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Speaker 4: That the Chicago Cubs won their first game at Yankee

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Speaker 2: It was actually built for a Federal League team. Was

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Speaker 2: around for two years and then the league folded. The

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Speaker 2: Cubs took over the leyfield.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so it's not that they had it. But still,

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Speaker 4: this is so crazy. That is it's absolutely nuts. But

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Speaker 4: you know, they only got their win yesterday because the

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Speaker 4: Yankees ended up winning today in the Bronx sixty three

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Speaker 4: was the final score. Right now, let's check in with

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Speaker 4: what's going on in Major League Baseball. The Orioles have

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Speaker 4: been beating the Twins the whole game they still are.

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Speaker 4: It's six to two bottom of the ninth inning and

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Speaker 4: Minnesota Twins are down to their final two outs. The

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Speaker 4: Cardinals still up on the White Sox three zero, bottom

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Speaker 4: of the ninth inning. In Chicago, the Nationals have scored

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Speaker 4: first against the Rangers at home, four zero bottom of

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Speaker 4: the second.

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Speaker 7: Willi A.

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Speaker 4: Damez put the Brewers on the scoreboard first against the

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Speaker 4: Reds with a solo shot. It's one zero bottom of

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Speaker 4: the second inning, Red Sox beating the Ace three to zero.

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Speaker 7: No surprise there.

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Speaker 4: At top of the second the Phillies were up on

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Speaker 4: the Marlins, but the Marlins just tied the game. In Miami,

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Speaker 4: it is one one bottom of the first inning. Let's

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Speaker 4: go to the NBA because some moves are happening. No,

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Speaker 4: I don't have a Day and Lillard update, but other

462
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Speaker 4: moves are happening. Rockets top pick I'm in Thompson. It

463
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Speaker 4: was their highest draft pick last month. I believe he

464
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Speaker 4: was number four. Has a grade to ankle spray. He

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Speaker 4: is expected to miss the rest of summer League. The

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Speaker 4: seventy six ers have a decision to make because they're

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Speaker 4: restricted free agent Ford Paul Reed Junior has signed a

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Speaker 4: three year, twenty three million dollar offsheet with the Jazz.

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Speaker 4: So the Sixers have until Sunday eleven fifty nine pm

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Speaker 4: Eastern Time to make a decision either to match and

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Speaker 4: retain Reid or he goes off to Utah. The Athletic

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Speaker 4: reports that the Suns are front runners to sign free

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Speaker 4: agent Bowl Bull. The Thunder are trading Patty Mills to

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Speaker 4: the Hawks for ty Ty Washington, Usman Garuba, Rudy Gay.

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Speaker 7: And a second round pick.

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Speaker 4: So the Thunder have thirty five draft picks in the

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Speaker 4: next seven years, fifteen first rounders.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know Rudy Gay was still playing. Rudy Gay

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Speaker 3: still plays, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like play is the Is it hard? This is a

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Speaker 4: tough word. But let's say he's still in the league,

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Speaker 4: he's still on a roster. Yeah, and he was just traded.

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Speaker 4: He's been moving all around. He's been moving all around.

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Speaker 7: So the Thunder getting another pick? Why do you want

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Speaker 7: so many picks?

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Speaker 2: See? I, as I always say, when people use the

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Speaker 2: word prospect, Yes, the word that comes to my mind

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Speaker 2: is suspect. Suspect because until they prove they can actually

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Speaker 2: do it, no matter how much height, it's a suspect.

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Speaker 7: It is a suspect.

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Speaker 2: I agree, prospect, So all.

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Speaker 7: Right, good one, I'm gonna steal that.

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Speaker 2: No, not everyone's proven like you based on your incredible

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Speaker 2: work ethic And just like logging Miles is a pilot,

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Speaker 2: you're logging Miles. That's what I'm doing right now. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: all right, Mancie. We will check in with you a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on. Once again, we are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot com studio. So I imagine

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, by the way, is thirteen losses away from

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Speaker 2: the all time NFL record, both regular season and if

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Speaker 2: you include the playoffs, he's thirteen behind him both. By

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Speaker 2: the way, the regular season record is shared by Dan

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Speaker 2: Reeves and my high school classmate Jeff Fisher. That's right,

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Speaker 2: the Rams, you know, they fired Fisher before he could

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Speaker 2: break that record, so he ended up tying the record. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: he's thirty wins behind Shula's regular season record. Speaking of Belichick,

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Speaker 2: in terms of wins, if included the playoffs, though, he's

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Speaker 2: eighteen wins away. So just based on that postseason included

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Speaker 2: eighteen wins to tie Shula's record for most wins combined

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Speaker 2: regular season postseason thirteen losses. What's going to come first

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Speaker 2: for Belichick? Thirteen losses are eighteen wins?

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Speaker 4: Ooh.

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Speaker 3: I would say the eighteen wins will happen before the

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Speaker 3: thirteen loss.

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Speaker 2: So you do think they're going to turn this around,

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Speaker 2: all right? So let's get back two because they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to obviously play better than five hundred for that

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Speaker 2: to happen, and they've been a five hundred team in

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Speaker 2: the last three years. Let's talk about Bill Belichick in

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Speaker 2: terms of assembling a roster as we sit here right now,

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Speaker 2: just based on the content of the Patriots roster, something

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Speaker 2: that you study Bucky Brooks, where are they rank? Are

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Speaker 2: they in the top third, are they in the middle?

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Speaker 2: Are they in the bottom third? Just looking at.

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Speaker 3: Their roster, I would say that the Patriots fall are

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Speaker 3: right in the middle, and that is a little problematic

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Speaker 3: because if you're in the middle, that means you're not

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Speaker 3: a playoff team. But coaching may be able to put

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Speaker 3: them over the top. This would be a better team

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Speaker 3: than it was last year. Bill O'Brien coming over organizing

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Speaker 3: the offense, choreographing the offense. That's going to help Bill

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Speaker 3: Belichick would do his thing with the defense, and so

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Speaker 3: they be competitive. Let me slow down for a second here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's take the coaching out of it, right, because,

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Speaker 2: like you say, Bill O'Brien will give them a legitimate

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinating coaching up. But if you're just looking at

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Speaker 2: the roster of the Patriots versus the Jets, the Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: and the Bills in their division, it's not great. How

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Speaker 2: far behind are they those three teams in terms of

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Speaker 2: just basic content of their roster?

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Speaker 3: I mean they're behind. How significant is it? I mean

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Speaker 3: there is a gap between them and the best teams

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Speaker 3: because when I think about the stars, like if you

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Speaker 3: close your eyes and who's on the Patriots it's man's nine,

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Speaker 3: then the star power will kind of phades quick.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, who would you say right now,

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Speaker 2: if you had to choose the five best players on

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Speaker 2: that roster, three best players on that rock, who would

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Speaker 2: they be? How about one player?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: I mean, guys, I mean you know these rosters, but dude,

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Speaker 2: they have a single player on their roster that you

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Speaker 2: could say is top three at their position in the league.

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Speaker 3: No, uh, No, one five? I mean.

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. Because my point is this,

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Speaker 2: if you've got you recognize the Belichick can coach up players,

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Speaker 2: and you hire a guy like Bill O'Brien that will

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Speaker 2: coach up players homes, then you can coach up guys.

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Speaker 2: Then maybe you need to change the person in charge

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Speaker 2: of putting the roster together to get you more talent

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Speaker 2: so that when you do have effective coaching, coaching up

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Speaker 2: isn't just the difference between going seven and ten and

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Speaker 2: nine and eight. Maybe it's the difference between going nine

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Speaker 2: to eight and eleven and six.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of defends on like where they've invested.

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Speaker 3: They've invested their draft capital in a handful of players.

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Speaker 3: Those players have to play, namely, Mac Jones has to play.

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Speaker 3: He's expected to be the franchise quarterback. Had a Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl season his first season. Whether you like the Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl or not, it does kind of stands as a

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Speaker 3: line of demarcation when it comes to performance. So he's

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Speaker 3: been at that level. Second year was a disappointment, Lucky.

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Speaker 3: First of all, that Pro Bowl you know, does still

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Speaker 3: how many quarterbacks got made the Pro Bowl in the

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Speaker 3: AFC that year? Six?

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Speaker 2: There's only fIF Okay, all right, well, come on, I

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Speaker 2: break it down for me. Mac Jones. Now he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have a legitimate offensive coordinator. Bill O'Brien, give me a

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Speaker 2: ceiling for Mac Jones. Can he be a top ten

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Speaker 2: quarterback in this league?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Top ten is so it fluctuates so much top ten.

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Speaker 3: If they win, it won't be because of him, it'd

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Speaker 3: be because of the other people. This is what I've

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Speaker 3: said about Mac Jones. This is my comparison to Mac

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Speaker 3: Jones because I'm sure your movie goer, right, I love

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Speaker 3: the movie. He loved the movies more. So let's go

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Speaker 3: with a flick iron Man. Sure, Okay, So, of all

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Speaker 3: the superheroes, iron Man's superpowers are really derivative of the suit. Correct.

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Speaker 3: The suit makes everything happen, and so Mac Jones is

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Speaker 3: iron Man in this scenario, meaning he needs the supporting

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Speaker 3: cast around him, he needs the coaching, he needs all

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Speaker 3: the other stuff to perform at that superhero level, which

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Speaker 3: he did his first season. But when you take away

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Speaker 3: the suit and you put him out there, he can't

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Speaker 3: do any of those things. And so we need the

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Speaker 3: suit to be right. So that's why we need Bill

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Speaker 3: O'Brien and those weapons around him to be right, which

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Speaker 3: is why you're hearing so much conversation about DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 3: and Dalvin Cook. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean we're getting Bob Kraft now saying that money

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Speaker 2: will never be an obstacle. In fact, he says, if

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Speaker 2: money ever does become an obstacle, I will sell the team.

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Speaker 2: If you were on the inside, and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe you are, I don't know, But if you're on

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Speaker 2: the inside and they're coming to Bucky Brooks for a

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Speaker 2: recommendation on whether or not to sign both Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 2: and DeAndre Hopkins, you would tell them what.

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Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook is a strong yes, yes, yes, yes, DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 3: We need to get in a room first with DeAndre

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Speaker 3: Hopkins and Bill o'brienn to see what happened in Houston.

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Speaker 3: Why was he so quickly dismissed and traded out? So

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Speaker 3: I need to make sure that he's he's right in

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Speaker 3: that regard, make sure he fits the Patriot way. You know,

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Speaker 3: we do things a little differently, a lot of work,

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Speaker 3: a lot of grind, maybe the NFL's version of what

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Speaker 3: the Miami Heat does when it comes to the long hours,

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Speaker 3: the heavy workload. Is DeAndre Hopkins going to be up

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Speaker 3: for dealing with that and is he going to be

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Speaker 3: available to play. So I feel great about Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 3: pumping my bricks a little. DeAndre Hopt got to make

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Speaker 3: sure he just really wants to play.

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Speaker 2: Who's the best wide receiver on the Patriots right now?

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Speaker 2: That's all I need to hear, all right, So when

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Speaker 2: you don't have an answer to that question, you know

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Speaker 2: it's a team that could really use any help at

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Speaker 2: any skill position. All right, Well, we'll get back. We

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Speaker 2: got some NFL news you want to get to over

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Speaker 2: the course of the show. Today, I want to bring

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Speaker 2: up the end of an era that never was. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Bucky Brooks, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are coming you live from the tirerack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. So there was a headline yesterday about

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Speaker 2: Michelle wi the golfer, and the headline read Michelle Wie

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Speaker 2: goes out in style. Now, if you're not familiar with

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Speaker 2: Michelle wi then you've only been probably around for last decade,

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Speaker 2: because fifteen years ago, Michelle Wie was probably the most

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Speaker 2: publicized female athlete in the world. Now, when they said

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Speaker 2: she finished her career in style, Michelle Wee, who by

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Speaker 2: the way, is thirty three years old, playing in her

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Speaker 2: final tournament at the US Women's Open, rolled in a

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Speaker 2: thirty foot par putt on the final hole. She missed

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Speaker 2: the cut by eight shots.

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Speaker 3: Ooh.

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Speaker 2: To put that in perspective. In her first US Women's Open,

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Speaker 2: she made the cut when she was thirteen years old.

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Speaker 2: When she was fourteen years old, she got an exemption

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Speaker 2: to play in a PGA Tour event and missed the

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Speaker 2: cut by one shot one shot.

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Speaker 3: Event.

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Speaker 2: The hype on her was very simple. She will be

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Speaker 2: the women's equivalent to Tiger Woods. She will rewrite the

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Speaker 2: record books on the lady's side. She finishes her career

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Speaker 2: having only won five tournaments ever on the LPGA Tour

654
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Speaker 2: and one major. She won one US Women's Open several

655
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Speaker 2: years back.

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Speaker 3: So what happened sounded disappointed.

657
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Speaker 2: Well, again, we talked about Wimby and all the hype

658
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Speaker 2: in this young man right and at the time when

659
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Speaker 2: Tiger was living up to the hype, exceeding the hype.

660
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Speaker 2: It's very rare. Think about it. When you get young

661
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: phenops like a Tiger Woods, like a Lebron James, like

662
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Speaker 2: a Kareem Abdul Jabal, are those that actually not only

663
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: live up to the hype, but exceed the hype, and

664
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 2: then there are others that don't. And I remember when

665
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Speaker 2: she was Michelle Wee was probably fourteen fifteen years old.

666
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Speaker 2: Her parents, she was an only child, insisted that she

667
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Speaker 2: would not even play on the women's tour, that that

668
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: was an insult to her. She would only play against

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Speaker 2: the men. She was tall, six feet tall, she could

670
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Speaker 2: hit the ball along the way, but then when it

671
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: came down to actually matching her golf skills against the

672
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: best women in the world, she was just another player.

673
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: She certainly wasn't anything close to the hype. So when

674
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: we look back on her career, she had injuries, you know,

675
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's risk injury, and there's a myriad of

676
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: things that can derail a promising career. But if you

677
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Speaker 2: have a prodigy like that, who is capable of doing

678
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Speaker 2: extraordinary things at a very young age. I think back

679
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: to the Williams sisters and the fact that their father, Richard,

680
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: kept them out of tournament tennis. Even though we started

681
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: hearing about Venus very early on in her career. You know,

682
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: her younger sister Serena, we didn't even know about it

683
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Speaker 2: at first, all the publicities on Venus, but he was

684
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Speaker 2: very cautious in how to start their careers in terms

685
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Speaker 2: of big time tournament tennis, and the fact that we

686
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Speaker 2: had a forty three year old Venus still playing at

687
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Speaker 2: Wimbledon this year. Yeah, tells me with the unbelievable success

688
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Speaker 2: of the Williams sisters that their father had at right.

689
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Speaker 2: So how do you balance that the idea of you

690
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Speaker 2: got a protege, you got a young child in terms

691
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Speaker 2: of age that's capable of amazing things athletically, and how

692
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Speaker 2: you handle their entrance into the big world of sports.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is stuff because you know,

694
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Speaker 3: you would like them to fall in love with the

695
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Speaker 3: sport on their own, meaning that you're not the overzealous

696
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Speaker 3: parents that is driving their participation in the sport. You

697
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Speaker 3: want them to fall in love with the fall in

698
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Speaker 3: love with the process. So they like practicing, they like

699
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Speaker 3: going to all the trainers and the private coaching and

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Speaker 3: all of those things. However, if they don't have it,

701
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Speaker 3: then you, as a parent, you have the obligation of

702
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: poning up the money and trying to get them there,

703
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Speaker 3: and maybe the light a click on in those things.

704
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Speaker 3: It's just a tricky thing to navigate because you then

705
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: have these players who have done it that way from

706
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Speaker 3: time they're seven or eight and at eighteen, they're done,

707
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: done with it, don't want to see it, don't care,

708
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: don't care about any of the legacy stuff or whatever.

709
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Speaker 3: And so I just think you have to be mindful

710
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Speaker 3: of the approach and what you want to do. And

711
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: you just got to make sure you're constant and aware

712
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Speaker 3: of how much you're asking your players to do. And

713
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Speaker 3: will you give them some time back for taking all

714
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Speaker 3: the time that you've been.

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Speaker 2: Doing Again, Michelle Wie was his sunning endorsement deals when

716
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Speaker 2: she's fifteen, sixteen years old, Well in advance of ten

717
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Speaker 2: million dollars, you pass on that money. If your family

718
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Speaker 2: you take advantage of that money. Unfortunately for Michelle Wee

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Speaker 2: as a golfer, she never achieved the levels everyone predicted

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Speaker 2: she would. But what about Victor woman Yama? Is he

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Speaker 2: going to get to the level that everyone predicts he

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Speaker 2: will have in the NBA? Will continue to focus on

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Speaker 2: his first appearance against NBA players. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: heard Monsei say that the Detroit Tigers just had a

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Speaker 2: combined no hitter against the Toronto Blue Jays. I think

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Speaker 2: you mentioned it was the twentieth. Let me give you

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Speaker 2: another number on that one. It's the sixth. One of

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Speaker 2: the last nine no hitters have been combined no hitters.

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Speaker 2: In my book, that's not a no hitter. I mean, technically,

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Speaker 2: it is because a team held another team hitless for

741
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Speaker 2: nine innings, so officially goes in the record books as

742
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Speaker 2: a no hitter. I don't know about you, Bucky, but

743
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Speaker 2: it seems to me that a no hitter is a

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Speaker 2: individual achievement. That's the way I look at a no hitter.

745
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Speaker 2: Like you threw a no hitter.

746
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean you'd like to think that yesteryear

747
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: you would go to distance and get the complete game.

748
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Speaker 3: Now you're not getting dead, you get in subcond tractors

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Speaker 3: did are building a house, but they don't have any

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Speaker 3: full ownership over the crew.

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Speaker 4: But this Isn't this impressive that everyone did it together

752
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Speaker 4: because it's still hard. You're right, it is cooler if

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Speaker 4: it's one pitcher. But the fact that they all were

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Speaker 4: able to do it, you gotta give credit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you.

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 2: Last year, Christian Xavier of the Astros Boo, who is

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Speaker 2: part was part of two combined no hitters in the

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Speaker 2: same season. Does like if he were to make the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, you say he had two no hitters. No,

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Speaker 2: he didn't have any. He had no no hitters.

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Speaker 1: Zero.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a no hitter. He pitched seven innings

764
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Speaker 2: in one of the games, and he pits six innings

765
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Speaker 2: in another one of those games.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't say yes, So that's.

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Speaker 2: Not he didn't pitch a no hitter.

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Speaker 7: I agree. I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I just think, you know, it's if it was easy,

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Speaker 4: everyone would do it, and it's not.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Uh, you forgot my name, forget their name, Brandon.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at you like you've got I feel like,

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a Padre spin on this, but go ahead.

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Speaker 9: No, no, No. I was gonna ask, what do you think

775
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Speaker 9: is more of a no hitter? Do you think Madison

776
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Speaker 9: Bumgardner's seven inning no hitter in twenty twenty or a

777
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Speaker 9: combined no hitter?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: First of all, a no hitter is nine innings or more.

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Speaker 2: It used to be. By the way you got credit

781
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Speaker 2: for no hitter. Let's say you want nine innings and

782
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Speaker 2: he didn't give up any hits, and then the game

783
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Speaker 2: goes to extra innings and you're still pitching. Back in

784
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Speaker 2: the days when guys used to actually pitch that much,

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Speaker 2: and you gave up a hit in the tenth or

786
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Speaker 2: eleventh inning, you still got credit for a no hitter

787
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Speaker 2: because you had a no hitter through nine. They eliminated those,

788
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Speaker 2: which is fine because it really wasn't a no hitter

789
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Speaker 2: because you did give up a hit. But these combined

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Speaker 2: no hitters, no, I you know, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: list of all the time, all time no hitters. Six

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Speaker 2: of the last nine have been these combined jobs. Get

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Speaker 2: them out of there.

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Speaker 4: Well, the problem is it just pitchers on pitching a

795
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Speaker 4: full game anymore?

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Speaker 2: Well, we had a perfect game.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Domingo Hermann.

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Speaker 2: By the way, by a guy who was suspended for

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Speaker 2: fifty games for domestic of views.

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Speaker 7: That's not I thought you were going to talk about

801
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Speaker 7: the sticky stuff. That's what I thought you were going

802
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Speaker 7: to ring Well, it was worse for him. Yeah, I

803
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Speaker 7: thought you were gonna ring up the sta stuff.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, no one in New York saw

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Speaker 2: because it was a late night game on the West

806
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Speaker 2: Coast and it was against the A's. But technically it

807
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Speaker 2: was a perfect game, and he did pitch a complete game.

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Speaker 8: M M.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This also gets to me when I when we talk

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Speaker 2: about team sports, because it's like a team effort on

812
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Speaker 2: no hitters. I don't know how you feel about this, Bucky.

813
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Speaker 2: So I have been friends with Eric Dickerson for a

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Speaker 2: long time. One of the greatest running backs in the

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Speaker 2: history of the NFL. Still holds a single season record

816
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Speaker 2: twenty five yards, and he never won a Super Bowl,

817
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: never played in a Super Bowl. And I remember having

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Speaker 2: him in studio with my partner Michael Thompson, who earned

819
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Speaker 2: two championship rings as a member of the Lakers back

820
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Speaker 2: in the showtime days, and we got into this conversation

821
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Speaker 2: of would you trade your Hall of Fame ring Eric

822
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Speaker 2: Dickerson for a championship ring? And his answer was no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are not that many guys that actually

824
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Speaker 2: have a Hall of Fame ring. There's a lot of

825
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: guys that have Super Bowl rings. And one of my

826
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Speaker 2: favorite is Donel Pumphrey, who played at San Diego State.

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Speaker 2: He was drafted by the Eagles. He was on the

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Speaker 2: Eagles team to beat the Patriots. He never actually played

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Speaker 2: an NFL game, is on the injured list the entire year,

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Speaker 2: never played an NFL game, and he has a Super

831
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Speaker 2: Bowl ring. So let me ask you this because I've

832
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Speaker 2: always made this argument. I used to make this argument

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Speaker 2: to Kobe back in the day when he used to

834
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Speaker 2: say I won five championships, and I would say to him,

835
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Speaker 2: I said, you were a member of five teams that

836
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Speaker 2: won championships. Yeah, that's a team thing. It is as

837
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Speaker 2: individual thing. It's a team achievement.

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Speaker 3: Until it's not. Until we started going on these shows

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Speaker 3: and talking about who's the greatest, and we then began

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Speaker 3: to count rings and talk about those things, and we

841
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: also determined that if you're the best player in basketball,

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Speaker 3: it's not only good enough to be the best player,

843
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Speaker 3: but you have to. It is mandatory. It's required. At

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Speaker 3: the end of game, when the game is hanging in

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Speaker 3: the ballance, you have to shoot a balls department because

846
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Speaker 3: you're the best player. You got to bring us home.

847
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan and Kobe would not pass up the game

848
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Speaker 3: winning shot opportunity. So it's changed everything, but it's not

849
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Speaker 3: what it should be. It should be the team because

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Speaker 3: then if you pour into the team, like let's just say,

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Speaker 3: some of these things that we're talking about, when it

852
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 3: comes to winning, if they pour all the way in,

853
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 3: they get they reaped the benefits, they get the spoils

854
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: of it. So some of the guys that you talk

855
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: about who didn't even play on the team and those things,

856
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: they're walking around with shiny Heartwell, in fact, Harvin, now

857
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Speaker 3: that you brought it up, I'm a little bitter about

858
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: this because my story in nineteen ninety six, I spent

859
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Speaker 3: the first nine games with the Green Bay Packers before

860
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: I was waived and then I landed with the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 3: where the Green Bay Packers go on to win that

862
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. With the Jaguars, we lose in the AFC

863
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: championship game. I do get the playoff bonuses from the

864
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: Packers and from the Jaguars, which is great. However I

865
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Speaker 3: didn't get the ring. Okay, now, who is responsible for that? Well,

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00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: the team has at the team's discretion. So you've heard

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Speaker 3: the Lakers when I guess Pat Bev and Russell Westbrook

868
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: we're talking about wanting to ring. And then I think

869
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: they even gave Boogie Cousins a ring when he was

870
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: on the team, And so it's up to the organization

871
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: in those things in retro. As I look back, I

872
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: would much rather have the ring. I'm in the Super

873
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: Bowl pitcher and everything, but I would like to have

874
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: the ring because the ring would cap it off because

875
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: now I could walk around and boldly proclaim I'm a

876
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: super Bowl champion. I can now go on to speaking

877
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 3: tour and do all these other things as a Super

878
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: Bowl CHAMPI but now I can't do that.

879
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: So how do you how do you judge a player

880
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 2: like Robert Rory. Robert Rory is a part of Big

881
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: Shot Bob, Big Chot Bob. Seven championships. Seven that's one

882
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: more than Kareem Abdul Jabbar. That's one more than Michael Jordan.

883
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: And by the way, he is the only player in

884
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: NBA history to won multiple championships. So three from franchises

885
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 2: with the Rockets, with the Spurs, and three with the Lakers.

886
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: Why is any a Hall of Famer? I mean, I mean,

887
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. He made a few timely shots.

888
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: He did, I don't know during the course of his career.

889
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: He wasn't like he was riding the bench. We're in

890
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: those championship runs.

891
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: So here's the thing, and here's why the argument is

892
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: all flawed. When we talk about which guys are the goat, right,

893
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: we talk about Michael Jordan being the goat compared to

894
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: Lebron Jay or I mean Lebron James and Kobe and

895
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 3: those guys, and we always point to the rings also

896
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: has more rings than all of them. Sure, we don't

897
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: include Kareem abdu Jabbar in the conversation. And at one

898
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: point he was the all time leading scorer, but we

899
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: act like his feats never exist.

900
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: Still has more MVP awards than anyone six.

901
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: We don't we don't talk about, we don't include him,

902
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: like it's not even in the thing. And so what

903
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: has happened? We have made the rings. Having possession of

904
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: the hardware the most important thing. And I'll see this

905
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: about Eric Dixon having known him, Yeah, known him. Yeah,

906
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 3: when you're a Hall of Famer, they have to recognize you,

907
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: you not your team, but you as an all time great.

908
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: And because they're only I think like three hundred plus,

909
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: I think we're close to three hundred. I think we

910
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: maybe over at number now. Yeah, that's a that's a

911
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: very very special fraternity.

912
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: Two thousand. I went to the Hall of Fame ceremony

913
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: in Canton when Howie Long went in oh Okay. It

914
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: also included two forty nine er legends in Ronnie Lott

915
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: and Joe Montana. And remember I remember, yeah, I remember

916
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: Montana's speech very well because he was trying to emphasize

917
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: the point that he only thought in terms of team

918
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: that you know, he was the quarterback of his team,

919
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: but he recognized that those four super Bowls, that he

920
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 2: was a part of a part of four super Bowl teams.

921
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: And the idea of getting an individual award like the

922
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame in a team sport, HM, when you

923
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: think about it, when you think about it for a moment,

924
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: here shouldn't these Halls of Fame for team sports recognize

925
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: teams rather than individuals.

926
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: My dad, I could, I could, I could sign up

927
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: for it. I'd think this should be right.

928
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: I mean, the greatest teams of all times should be

929
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: included in these teams sports halls of fame.

930
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's it's one of those things that

931
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: is always the debate, right. It's the debate like when

932
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: you're having your kids early and they're playing to play sports.

933
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: You give them all the cliches, coach speak, a team,

934
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: no iron team. You know, we over me all those

935
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: other things, right, But there's a part of it that

936
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: you know you want the team to be successful, but

937
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: you want the team to be successful because of your contributions.

938
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: If your team wins and you don't contribute, like, it's

939
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: hard to fully get into. It's one of the weird

940
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: things I would say about pro sports, like, hey, it

941
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: feels great, but if you're not playing, it still can

942
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 3: be a head trip because you didn't really contribute anything

943
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: to the stuff. And so when you hear guys like

944
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: Eric Dickerson and stuff talk about, oh, give me the

945
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: team over the super Bowl ring, it's for those guys.

946
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: It's for those guys that are running around town flying

947
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: high because they have a Super Bowl ring because they

948
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: were on the squad. Maybe they contributed a little bit,

949
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: maybe they played like I did, maybe a snap or

950
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 3: two on special teams, but they got the ring because

951
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: they were part of a great team. Whereas Ed was

952
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: a one man show. He was the guy that put

953
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: the rams on his back, he was the guy that

954
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: shattered the record and did all those things, but he

955
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: never can be called a champion. And so that that

956
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: rubs some individuals the wrong way, because when you win

957
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: a championship, forever and every day, always got to call you.

958
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: The chap right, And this is the argument with the

959
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy, right, It's seeming it always goes to a quarterback,

960
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: maybe a running back, you know, occasionally a wide receiver.

961
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: But most of these guys always immediately talk about this

962
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: is weird that I'm standing here when.

963
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 3: It's a team sport. Yeah. Yes.

964
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: One of my favorite was when Roger Staubach years and year,

965
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: sixty years ago wins the Heisman Trophy at the Naval Academy.

966
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: He talked about how he could wish he could cut

967
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: up the trophy and you know, sixty seventy pieces for

968
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: each of his teammates and it was funny like years

969
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: later his teammates were from that Navy team, are like,

970
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: when is my piece coming in the mail? I'm waiting

971
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: for that piece. He said. He wanted to carve up

972
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: the trophy. Yes, chop it up, and yet your trophy

973
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: is in tax still in your living room.

974
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: I guess I could ask you this, is there any

975
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: individual honor that you could win at as a broadcaster?

976
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: They would bring you to kind of joy on par

977
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: with like the Hall of Fame where you were like, yeah,

978
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: like our ratings weren't great.

979
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: Book, Hey, my greatest honor as a broadcaster is employment.

980
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, we're talking about We're talking about

981
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 3: like a We're talking about like a legacy moment like something.

982
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: You know what I think when I think most broadcasters

983
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: will always say the same thing is that if you

984
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: were at a certain event, uh and you were broadcasting.

985
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not a play by play guy. I

986
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: did color commentary for a couple of years with UCLA football,

987
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: but I'm a sports talk radio guy. So I the

988
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: great thing about what we do here, Bucky, is that

989
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: we can spread the wealth all over the place.

990
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: You can you can't like selfishly. Okay, So we've I mean,

991
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: I mean they have halls of fame for everything. I'm

992
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: in Hall of Fame. They talk about like Emmy's and

993
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: stuff like that, but none of that means it is,

994
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 3: by the way, speaking of em right. So I've worked

995
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: LATV for like the last twenty five years, and so

996
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 3: what's happen is, let me tell you how it works

997
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: on the local side.

998
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: This is I'm not making this up. So I've worked

999
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: la TV for twenty five years, two different stations, and

1000
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 2: there have been times when they've come to me saying, hey,

1001
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: we would like to nominate you and put you in

1002
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 2: a category, and I'm like, well, I'm flattered, and they said, yeah,

1003
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: can you write us a check for three hundred dollars?

1004
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like shipping and handling.

1005
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, why would I pay you to

1006
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: be nominated? Well that's sort of the gig, like you

1007
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: sort of pay in And I'm like, what, Yeah, pass

1008
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: if if the only if the only reason I'm winning

1009
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 2: this awards, I'm paying for it. I there was another

1010
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: they have, whether I call the Golden Mic Awards. This

1011
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: is my favorite cat. They have these Golden Mic Awards

1012
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 2: a big, big thing in radio, right, And I've had

1013
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: friends of mine and I'm not, you know, begrudging them,

1014
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: but so they would look at the different categories and

1015
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: they would find a category that literally had no nomination.

1016
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: He's in it.

1017
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they would sign there. They would somehow finagle

1018
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: themselves into a category of which they are the only nominee,

1019
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: and then they walk away with a nice looking trophy.

1020
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, trophies in general don't do a whole lot.

1021
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: I got a couple of little ones.

1022
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 3: I don't.

1023
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: You don't talk about them, but I mean, I'm I'm

1024
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: sure you've got a whole bookcase.

1025
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 3: I do, but you know, like here, here's the thing. Yeah.

1026
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: And I had a friend of mine, Robert Massew, who

1027
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: went to one Pro Bowl. I think we went to

1028
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl his rookie season, played nine years, never

1029
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 3: win again. Yeah, but he said when I was James say,

1030
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: hey man, when you go to the Pro Bowl, they

1031
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: always have to refer to you as a Pro Bowler.

1032
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 3: So imagine if you come down with an Emmy, they

1033
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: always have to say.

1034
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: Emmy Award winning.

1035
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 3: I've seen guys go so far as Emmy nominated.

1036
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Now you've just seen these guys. They

1037
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: do the live shots from their living room. Yes, and

1038
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: they got those little mini emmis absolutely like this big

1039
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: like the actual National Lemmies are gy organic. Then you

1040
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: see a those little mini ones are like locals.

1041
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: I want a little one I have. I have a

1042
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 3: list of things that that I want.

1043
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: I like one of those.

1044
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 3: I like it. I like a like a little emmy.

1045
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: Look at in the entertainments in the Entertainment License.

1046
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: I've told you guys about how I'd love to have

1047
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: an honorary doctorate. There are a lot of things. There

1048
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: are a lot of wars that I would like to

1049
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 3: have because in the background, I would like to hear this.

1050
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: I want to hear I didn't realize it that you

1051
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: are in those All right, we'll find we'll find out

1052
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: some of these awards that Bucky is still got on

1053
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: his bucket list.

1054
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: Yes down the road.

1055
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: Also, we got to get to Wimby a little bit

1056
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: more today after his big debut in the NBA. This

1057
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hardban and Bucky Brooks. Fox

1058
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. Once again, We're coming in live from the

1059
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: tai Iraq Dot com Studios. All right, getting back to

1060
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: awards for a secondary. Before we go through your bucket

1061
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: list of yes, what you're looking to earn, let me

1062
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: ask you this. So Tom Cruise, Who's and Harrison Ford

1063
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: have won a combined zero Academy Awards. Oh, they've never zero.

1064
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: Neither one has ever won an Oscar.

1065
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: I need to have one of those in it.

1066
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: But f Murray Abraham he won an Oscar for Best Actor. Well,

1067
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: Brendan Fraser just won an Oscar Oscar, Yeah for the Whale,

1068
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: this just this year. Really, so let me ask you this,

1069
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done, whose career would you

1070
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: rather have Brendan Fraser or Tom Cruise?

1071
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if we're going to talk about the

1072
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: Minettira stuff, like, yeah, Tom Cruise has been a box

1073
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: office success.

1074
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: Well who's Who's Who's a better actor? In other words?

1075
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: Like I say, there are people when it comes to awards,

1076
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: and there's no perfect science to awards. They have to

1077
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: be given out. Somebody has to vote on an award, right,

1078
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: That's that's how awards are given out. I don't know

1079
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: how we became so obsessed with the ward and you

1080
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: know I'm into you know Hall of fame, recognition and

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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. But does that really gauge the

1082
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: impact of your career.

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00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: I mean again it doesn't. But you know, like Harman,

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00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: you'd like to have all your your honors and your

1085
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: accolades as they're on your resume and eventually they're gonna

1086
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: be on your tombstone. You want them to talk about you.

1087
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: Like we have a thing where we talk about you

1088
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: want to be legendary. Yeah, like there's something about being legend.

1089
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: Well Tom Cruise never won an Oscar, but I'd say

1090
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: he's legendary.

1091
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1092
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he will be legendary in his way.

1093
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: I mean we talk about all the right moves and

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: risky business and top gun and all those things like

1095
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: this great.

1096
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mission impossible. Does Harrison Ford have any regular No?

1097
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: But see there's there's these words that we talk about critically.

1098
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: Acclaimed, critically, So it's up to the critics to decide

1099
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: whether or not you're I'm just saying, what's about the fans.

1100
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: It's almost like being on the best seller list.

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00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 2: Okay, let let me get.

1102
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: Let me get this straight.

1103
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 2: So and I'm just using movies and it's examp. So

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01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: you have these people that are deemed movie critics, Are

1105
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: they any more qualified to judge whether or not it's

1106
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: a good movie or a bad movie than you or I.

1107
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: I mean no, but I mean they're they're quote unquote pros.

1108
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so those people decide then who are the best

1109
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: and who are the worst? Yes, but many times you

1110
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: see like Rotten Tomatoes, right, You'll see a movie gets

1111
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: a thirty percent rating from the critics and a ninety

1112
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: percent critic you know, from the audience.

1113
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so who's right?

1114
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: Who's wrong?

1115
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: I like Rout Tomatoes says thirty percent. I'ma be lieve

1116
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: them because everything you see on the internet is true.

1117
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: But you my guess, Bucky, because I know you a

1118
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: little bit here. I don't think you're gonna go by

1119
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: somebody else's word if you want to see something and

1120
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: judge for yourself whether it is you like the product.

1121
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times have you disagreed? Just checking

1122
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,479
Speaker 2: out personnel for the National Football League and you see

1123
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: something and you're like, I like this guy, and everyone's like,

1124
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: n he sucks, Bucky looking at it, I don't see anything,

1125
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: And then it turns out you were right the guy.

1126
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: Actually I'm sure, that's happened a few.

1127
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: Too, a couple of times every day and then it happens.

1128
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: Like you were the guy, Yeah, figure this out.

1129
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: It is.

1130
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: But I mean, well, is that discredit those that had

1131
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: no clue what they were talking about.

1132
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: I mean, like they may have had a bad day.

1133
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: They just may have had a bad day when it

1134
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: comes to those things. That's how I look at it,

1135
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: because that's their job. Though they're being paid. They are,

1136
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 3: but like sometimes sometimes things get lost, you know, like Denzel.

1137
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: Denzel didn't win until a Training Day, and I wouldn't

1138
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: say that Training Day was the best movie that I've

1139
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: ever seen him.

1140
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: Actually he had won before. They want a supporting oscar

1141
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: a talking about Glory, Oh Glory.

1142
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: He was great day. Yeah, he was here. He was

1143
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: also great in Malcolm X. He was great in a

1144
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 3: bunch of other flicks that he should have getting it.

1145
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 3: I mean, halle Berry won for what Monsters Ball?

1146
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: Well, look at look at Scorsese, one of the greatest

1147
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: directors of old tom old time movies and the movie

1148
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: he won the Oscar for The Departed, which was a

1149
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: really good movie. But I mean his list of movies,

1150
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, is it in the top five. I

1151
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 2: don't know.

1152
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if it really matters which one you

1153
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: get it for us, just that you have it. Yeah,

1154
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 3: hart Man, like all those emmies like like I'm looking

1155
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: for the TV the little.

1156
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: Small Nolan Ryan never won a cy Young Award. Really

1157
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: he threw seven no hitters. He struck out over fifty

1158
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: seven hundred hitters in his career. Can he be dismissed

1159
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: as a guy in the conversation best of all time

1160
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: when he never won a cy Young Award?

1161
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: See that's like, see, that's see, that's the tricky thing.

1162
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 3: And see now I'm having this stuff and this almost

1163
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: I told you I have regret that conversation that we

1164
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: had right here. We were talking about MVP. Yeah, and

1165
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: in my naivete I sat there and ruled Joel Embiid.

1166
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: And then I remember in the middle of the postseason

1167
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: being like what was I thinking? And I said, Joki, yeah,

1168
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 3: what what what am I doing? And jokers should have

1169
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: been and looking, I'm joking. I'm mad because now anyone

1170
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: who watched the postseason, mm hmm is that close? And

1171
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 3: I know it's a regular season, but it ain't close.

1172
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: Who's the MVP?

1173
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: No not right now. He was coming off. Well, they're

1174
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: just well, you got to give it to somebody. You

1175
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: can't give it to the same guy every year. And

1176
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, why not? Yeah, I mean you think I

1177
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: mean Barry Bonds won four straight MVP Awards when he

1178
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: probably should have won more. Well, Michael Jordan one year

1179
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: they gave it to Barkley when he was in Phoenix.

1180
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: Another year they gave it to the Mailman. And were

1181
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: they better than Michael Jordan?

1182
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 3: Really good? Have really good years those years?

1183
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 2: I about Kobe won one, Shack one one?

1184
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: Were the same team?

1185
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: Why about Shaq? When he the same team the award?

1186
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, how many years at his

1187
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: peak was he the most valuable guy in the league?

1188
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: I mean most Jordan?

1189
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: He did, but he had to trusty sidekick Kobe. He

1190
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 3: had Bean, He had Bean playing beside him. All right.

1191
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: So if you had back in nineteen ninety nine, two

1192
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: thousand and two thousand and one, two thousand and two,

1193
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: and you got a pickup game and you got Shaq

1194
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: and Kobe in front of you, who you picking?

1195
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm picking Shack, of course, you're taking Shack, picking

1196
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: Shack Beronger exactly, thank you.

1197
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but but still it doesn't take away valuable.

1198
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 2: It's not a knock on Kobe. It's just the fact

1199
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: that Shack was more valuable.

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01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 3: He was more valuable. However, remember Kobe even said this

1201
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: like sometimes like Shack wasn't in shape, so Kobe had

1202
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: to finish it. Oh, you had to carry it.

1203
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: He seemed to be imperfect, say, when he was running

1204
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: people over and dunking in them and their body and

1205
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: everything else in the loop giants picking everybody everything. And

1206
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: that's what I in fact, that's what I want to

1207
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: get to. On the other side, I want to get

1208
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: to that about a big man that plays big.

1209
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: I like that.

1210
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: All right, once again, let's find out what's trending right now.

1211
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: All right, So MANSI, what is on your list of

1212
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: awards that you want to accumulate over the course of

1213
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: what is already one of the most discussed broadcasting careers

1214
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 2: of all time.

1215
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 7: Oh stop it, a little Emmy.

1216
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 4: I would love one, subtly, like you know, you just

1217
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 4: sneak it in there.

1218
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 7: Would you take stuff?

1219
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 3: Would you take a star?

1220
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 7: A star?

1221
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 1: No?

1222
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 7: What I mean, I will, but I'd rather take the Emmy.

1223
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: So if the and by the way that people.

1224
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 7: People are the Hollywood star, but everyone can get a star, So.

1225
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: They keep creating new categories, like it's a star. Come on,

1226
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: I forget the star. You pay for that. I can

1227
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: tell you I literally pay for it. I can tell

1228
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: your names of people that have a star because they

1229
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 2: simply paid for it.

1230
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 7: Right, I think, Yeah, that's that's why I don't.

1231
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,959
Speaker 2: If you walk down Hollywood Boulevard and take out stars,

1232
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: you will see names you would never recognize.

1233
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 3: Can I get the name in number so I can

1234
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 3: give me.

1235
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 7: Creon?

1236
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: Do it if you. But here's the thing about the Emmy,

1237
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: So they keep creating new categories. So let's say you

1238
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: won an Emmy Award, yes, for Best Appearance in a

1239
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: Limited Series in which you were on screen for exactly

1240
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: thirty seven seconds.

1241
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 7: Hey, if that's all it takes, that's what.

1242
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: It says on the Emmy.

1243
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 7: Love it, you love it?

1244
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: I'll take it.

1245
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, you chose me only thirty seven seconds done?

1246
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 2: Thirty seven seconds?

1247
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:19,959
Speaker 3: Good.

1248
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: At least it's better than the Academy Awards. I hate

1249
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 4: the Academy Awards because.

1250
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: The Academy Awards are more prestigious, because there are very

1251
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: few that are ever given.

1252
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 7: Out, but it's ridiculous.

1253
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 4: It's like, unless it's a war movie or some like,

1254
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 4: I think the.

1255
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 7: Best movie doesn't always win everything everywhere all at once.

1256
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you watch that?

1257
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 4: I did not.

1258
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: I did not see that movie. And tell me you

1259
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: can make any sense of that movie.

1260
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 7: No, I already don't want to. I already do.

1261
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 4: I'm a scary movie type of gal. I watched Insidious

1262
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 4: last night. I almost punched the girl next to me

1263
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 4: because I don't understand what people think. But if you're

1264
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 4: watching a scary movie, it's very quiet most of the time, right,

1265
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 4: unless there's like a jump scare, you can't whisper.

1266
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 7: I literally was like, I'm about to punch this twenty

1267
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 7: year old.

1268
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 3: Next to me.

1269
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: Well, this is whispering.

1270
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 7: And I wanted to be like, do you think I

1271
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 7: can't hear you.

1272
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 3: Whispering?

1273
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 4: But when it's a scary movie, there's not a lot

1274
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 4: of sounds to cover the whispers. Like, if you're watching

1275
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 4: watching Mission Impossible, you can whisper.

1276
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 7: There's all these bombs and all these things happening.

1277
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 4: In a scary movie, there's a lot of silence, so

1278
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 4: when you whisper, we can hear you.

1279
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 3: Oh it takes away from the Yes, set away from it.

1280
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 7: Yes, I hate it. I hate it, but I restrained myself.

1281
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: But I didn't say anything like Shirley Stern, one of

1282
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: the most beautiful actresses. The only Oscar she won was

1283
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: for Monster.

1284
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 7: Which she looks like a different human.

1285
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: That's why they gave her the oscar.

1286
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, And she did. She did good in that.

1287
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: She was good in that, I understand, but she had

1288
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: ugly herself down. I mean really to prove right.

1289
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 4: Where It's like we just guys, if it's a war movie,

1290
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna win automatically, and I'm just like, no, Sometimes

1291
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 4: it's scary movie is the best. Sometimes an action movie is.

1292
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 4: So I you know, I digress. I digress. Let's go

1293
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 4: to Major League base small guys. The Birds just took

1294
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 4: the lead over the Reds. Even though Joey Vado hit

1295
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 4: a three run home or fourth Cincinnati to tie the game,

1296
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 4: Milwaukee didn't waste any time. They're back on top, five

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Speaker 4: to four, top of the fifth inning. The Rangers in

1298
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 4: the Nationals are still on a rain delay, but it's

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01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 4: been all Washington.

1300
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Speaker 7: Eight zero is the score. Giants took the lead over

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01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 7: the Rockies.

1302
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 4: They were tied not anymore three to two bottom of

1303
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 4: the fifth inning in San Francisco, and the Phillies on

1304
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: the Marlins were tied not anymore. Miami has taken the

1305
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 4: lead four to three top of the fifth inning as well,

1306
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 4: even though mister Harmon is not impressed. There was a

1307
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 4: combined no hitter today from the Detroit Tigers. They blank

1308
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 4: the Blue Jays two zero, the twentieth combined no hitter

1309
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 4: in MLB history, but mister Harmon is not impressed. Brendan

1310
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 4: Todd has taken the lead over at the John Deere Classic.

1311
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 4: He is all alone sixteen underpar over all US Star.

1312
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about this. Megan Rapino announce that she's

1313
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 4: gonna retire at the end of the season. She is

1314
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 4: gonna compete for her fourth Women's Role Cup. This tournament

1315
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: kicks off July twenty eighth Wimbledon. Carlos Alcoraz moving on

1316
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 4: to Wimbledon's fourth round, winning today in four tough sets.

1317
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 7: And that's all I got for you, guys.

1318
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Speaker 9: Back to you.

1319
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: But when it's all said in a monsie, you're gonna

1320
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: have a separate awards room. You're just gonna have one

1321
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: of those rooms. All those trophies up there.

1322
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 7: All I need is want I can create an illusion

1323
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 7: with mirrors that there's more.

1324
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 3: You know what I say, all you need is the

1325
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Speaker 3: first one.

1326
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 7: You just need the first one.

1327
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 2: I have a co worker at KTLA in Los Angeles

1328
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 2: who has won fifteen local Emmys who I'm not going

1329
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: to give the name. Honestly, they don't call attention to it.

1330
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: In fact, this person has a desk and every time

1331
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: this person wins another one, they just stick it up

1332
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 2: at the top of the desk. Well, doesn't have them

1333
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: in their home, nothing like that. Just like here's another one.

1334
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 4: Oh, it just doesn't care about it, don't care, doesn't

1335
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 4: appreciate it.

1336
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 3: Just keep.

1337
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 7: Appreciate it.

1338
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: Awards shiny award?

1339
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 3: Would shiny awards?

1340
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 7: Shiny awards?

1341
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 3: All right?

1342
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 2: All right, well let's find out from Bucky, because you

1343
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: know we were teasing this. So if you could have

1344
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: one award on your mantle. By the way, if you

1345
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 2: had the award, where would you put it, whatever that

1346
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: award is, where would you put it on display? Would

1347
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: you have it on display?

1348
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 3: Gosh?

1349
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: I mean I've heard of Heisman Trophy winners that literally

1350
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 2: use their award as a doorstop.

1351
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: That would never happen.

1352
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about it, you talk about a

1353
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: rare award. They make two every year, one for the individual,

1354
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: one for the school.

1355
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 3: Well it's too late. I look, I can't do it anymore.

1356
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 3: You can't win the hetman. So what would be the

1357
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: one award that you could win? And where would you

1358
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 3: put it? So here's the thing, because everything is about

1359
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 3: being Facebook official, and so I would like to be

1360
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: able to have something that I could take a picture

1361
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 3: that I could put in my header not only on Facebook,

1362
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: but also on install now on threads, that everyone can

1363
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 3: see it whenever they click on my page. Because it's

1364
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 3: really important that everyone knows. And so I mean the Academy,

1365
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: when the Academy comes knock, and that's a very distinguishable award.

1366
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 3: That's a great award.

1367
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 2: Remember when Kobe won the Oscar for Film.

1368
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, like so that's so that's one, because that's that's

1369
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 3: a big X show. I've even already had my speech

1370
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: ready if it ever happened. You could do a documentary, Yeah,

1371
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 3: do a little documentary, a little narration or something like that.

1372
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 3: But then there's also something about like maybe winning a Grammy,

1373
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: because like you get the little you know, the little

1374
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 3: record player like you have that it looks nice when

1375
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 3: you hold it and it's not cumbersome, so you can

1376
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 3: kind of hold it and talk and do all those

1377
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 3: other things. And so I I like that you guys

1378
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 3: kind of poop pooed on my Hollywood star. But that

1379
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 3: would be big, kind of locally because like it's kind

1380
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 3: of a big deal when you have star.

1381
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: I was there when my my longtime partner Jim Hill, yeah,

1382
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: got his star on the Hollywood Walk Up Fame. I

1383
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 2: was there with Jim. Was a wonderful events, wonderful.

1384
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 3: I would like to be able to go there and

1385
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 3: all that, like it's it's a great thing. So so

1386
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 3: those things and then like I mean, if it would happen,

1387
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: like just from a professional standpoint, if you could somehow

1388
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: find your way into the Hall of Fame.

1389
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: Which hall of Fame?

1390
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: The Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1391
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so they do as a contributors, as a contributor,

1392
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 2: as a contributor, I can't get it as a player,

1393
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: because it's all done.

1394
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 3: I don't have anything.

1395
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: So what about like they have a broadcast, they have

1396
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: a Writer's Award, So it would have to be one

1397
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: of those actually Hall of Fames like fringe.

1398
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, friends, but it still says Hall of Fame. You

1399
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 3: get one of those things you kind of back in

1400
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: there like you.

1401
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 2: Have in all these they have broadcasters and they have writers.

1402
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,440
Speaker 3: Did they get a bust? No, No, there's no bust,

1403
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 3: but you do can can we negotiate that?

1404
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: Like, so you want to have a Bucky Brooks bust

1405
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, which you could

1406
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: get as a contributor.

1407
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 3: Oh, it did not need to be a contributor. So

1408
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 3: I need to have something that is substantially be.

1409
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: In that contributor category.

1410
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: Like like like something that is.

1411
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: Well, you know who you know who got into the

1412
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame that was neither a player,

1413
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: a coach, a general manager, or an owner. His name

1414
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: was Bill Nunn. Oh, yes, Bill Nunn was a long

1415
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: time ride out of Pittsburgh and he was instrumental in

1416
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 2: helping recruit Steeler players that played in use yeah in

1417
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: those in those colleges, the John Stall warts of the

1418
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: world and guys like that, And so he was sort

1419
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: of an indirect contributor to the Rooney family to find

1420
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: all that talent. And he was voted into the Pro

1421
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame posthumously as a contributor.

1422
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 3: So that would that would that would work. You would

1423
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: fit in that category as long as we had a bus.

1424
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: That that would that would work.

1425
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: Gold bother you if you were no longer with us

1426
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: and they.

1427
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 3: Got man, I kind of want to have your flowers

1428
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 3: whilst there. Yeah, exactly, because then you get a chance

1429
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: to get a chance to talk to someone else would

1430
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 3: have to accept the award, you know.

1431
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 2: You know, I'm so happy with so all the years

1432
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: I kept going to Super Bowls year after year after Yeah,

1433
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, we kept interviewing. Was Jerry Kramer, the legendary

1434
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: guard for the Packers, who somehow was named to the

1435
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: fiftieth anniversary team. But he was the only guy on

1436
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: that team that was not named to the Hall of Fame.

1437
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: And he waited and waited and waited, and he finally

1438
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 2: got in, was like three years ago, in his mid eighties,

1439
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: still stole alive. And I'm so happy because I must

1440
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: have I literally would interview finally got in. Look what happened.

1441
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: My friend Cliff Ranch got in. But after he passed.

1442
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you don't even get a chance to enjoy it.

1443
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 3: You don't get a chance to put the gold jacket

1444
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 3: on at Prance AROUNDO.

1445
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 2: In fact, they don't even get the gold jacket to

1446
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: the family. Did you hear this whole new rule? I

1447
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: did hear about that. They don't get a gold jacket.

1448
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 2: Like you would think the family gets a gold jacket.

1449
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: They don't unless you're alive there is.

1450
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense, like like, why can't we have

1451
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 3: the gold jacket.

1452
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: Hanging up or put it on display? Yeah, no gold jacket.

1453
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: If they passed, you have to go get you home,

1454
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 2: jackib all right, is Wimmy going to get a gold

1455
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: jacket someday? Well, now he's not a football player, but

1456
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: is he going to be the kind of Hall of

1457
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 2: Fame talent everyone is predicting he's going to be some

1458
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 2: early reviews. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and

1459
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday, and we're coming

1460
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: live from the ti iraq dot Com studios. We're just

1461
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: watching here. They have a feature piece, a documentary series

1462
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: that's coming up on Wilt Chamberlain Goliath and I had

1463
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: the good fortune of actually meeting Will who passed away

1464
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine. He was every bit larger than life.

1465
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 2: He and that's sort of an overused cliche.

1466
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 3: But he was that.

1467
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm watching Wimby. We're obviously fascinated by giants, right,

1468
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: And we can think back to the Wild Chamberlains when

1469
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: leu Al Sindor as Kareem was then known out of

1470
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: Power Memorial High School and he ended up a UCLA.

1471
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 2: So we've seen this time and again Ralph Sampson coming

1472
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 2: out of Virginia and going to the NBA, and now

1473
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 2: we have Whimby. And this is something that gets to

1474
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: me in the changing tone of basketball because when I

1475
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: think about the big men of that era, even the

1476
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 2: current era, when I'm watching a guy like Nicola Jokic,

1477
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 2: I like big men that play big. I mean, I

1478
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: understand that Kevin Durant or a Dirk Noovitski. These are,

1479
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, guys that are seven feet near seven feet

1480
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: that can shoot the outside jumper, and obviously when you're

1481
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 2: that tall, it's a pretty unstopped shot. But my preference

1482
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: in basketball is I want my big to play big.

1483
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: I want him dominating around the basket on both ends.

1484
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: When Shack would just back people down and just destroy them,

1485
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean. Like yesterday, Wimby had

1486
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: five block shots, and most of them were just a

1487
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: product of guys underneath the basket trying to get the

1488
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: ball over a guy standing there who has a seven

1489
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: to ten wingspan. He didn't have to do much to

1490
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: hold up his hand and block a shot. There's difference

1491
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: between that kind of block shot and you know what

1492
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I'm talking about the block shot where

1493
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 2: you come down and you just you're not just blocking

1494
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 2: the shot, You're sending a message. Get that garbage out

1495
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: of here, don't come down in my house. I want

1496
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: my big to intimidate by their mere presence on the court. Now,

1497
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: hopefully at some point Wimby will understand that that's how

1498
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: he could best serve his team, really best serve the NBA.

1499
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: We need a big like that. Based on his first game,

1500
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: he wanted to show off that he had a crossover.

1501
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: He wanted to show that he could shoot a shot

1502
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 2: from the outside, although he airballed two of them and

1503
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 2: only made one of his six to three point attempts.

1504
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: That to me is not a big. You may have

1505
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 2: a tall body, but you're not a big.

1506
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 3: No. So here's the thing, and I would say that

1507
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 3: he is kind of a byproduct of the new generation

1508
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 3: of big men, where I think kat Karl Anthony town

1509
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 3: has talked about when they look back, they're going to

1510
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 3: talk about how he changed the game as a big

1511
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: man that could shoot from the and do all those things.

1512
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 3: Even though I disagree that they will talk about him

1513
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 3: being a guy that is a revolutionary that changed the game.

1514
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 3: But that's what you have. You have these big guys

1515
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 3: that want to stay out away from the bucket. They

1516
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 3: don't want to get touched. They want to shoot and

1517
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 3: do all the things that the little guys do, the

1518
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 3: fun stuff, and so they look they kind of bristle

1519
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 3: at the notion of hey, let's do some of this

1520
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 3: dirty work down in the block. But I would tell

1521
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 3: you that your big min should be able to get

1522
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: in the block and get busy, and we saw the Joker.

1523
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: I think that's why Joker's game is one that everyone

1524
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 3: raves about because he can give you a little bit

1525
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 3: of everything. He can go into block and give you

1526
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: the footwork that we saw from Kevin McHale. He can

1527
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 3: get the mid range jumper. He can even step out

1528
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 3: in the deep water and shoot threes. He can do

1529
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 3: all of those things. But there's never a time when

1530
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 3: you watch the Nuggets and you look at him and

1531
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: you don't feel his size and his physicality. That's what

1532
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 3: we want to see from my big.

1533
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: Men, exactly. When you watch the Denver Nuggets, all eyes

1534
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 2: are on Yokich. They got great supporting characters around him,

1535
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: but he was the focus. And like you say, he

1536
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 2: can shoot a three, but only when it's necessary. I

1537
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 2: just hope and I think Popple figured this thing out

1538
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: with him that that's all gravy all right. By the way,

1539
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard is still a Blazer. What's going on? We're

1540
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,719
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1541
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1542
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1552
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1553
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 2: us the latest. By the way, Bucky, is what is

1554
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes around the NFL at this

1555
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: time of the year. So the players are all gone,

1556
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 2: you know, coaches until we get to started training camp

1557
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: and everything else many camps. All that stuff is obviously

1558
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 2: in our rear view mirror. But what's going on behind

1559
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: closed doors in NFL teams at this time of the year.

1560
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: It's scary time of year. It's only scary time because

1561
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 3: you had a few more weeks before training camp opens up.

1562
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: And what you're hoping as an executive that you get

1563
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 3: everybody to training camp healthy and ready to go. July

1564
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 3: fourth is typically the last big vacation weekend, vacation time

1565
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 3: where you guys kind of let their hair down, let lose,

1566
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 3: kick the feet up, do whatever they're going to do

1567
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 3: from a travel standpoint. Now you have two weeks to

1568
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 3: get ready for the opening of camp. Everyone should be

1569
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: locked in and focused trying to make sure that they

1570
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 3: are ready to hit the ground on running when training

1571
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: camp opens at the end of the month and so

1572
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 3: as an executive, you're just trying to get everybody there.

1573
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: Are you calling players, texting players, getting updates? Like you

1574
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: check in?

1575
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 3: You check in because like for you got to remember,

1576
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: the end of Minichamp was the middle of June. Everyone

1577
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,839
Speaker 3: pretty much went on vacation. Coaches, players, everyone's out the building.

1578
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 3: You're kind of getting your last minute uh vacations and

1579
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,839
Speaker 3: family time visits and those things. Because when the season starts,

1580
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 3: at when training camp starts, uh, there's no more break time. Yeah.

1581
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 3: Uh for coaches in particularly, there's no more break time.

1582
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 8: Uh.

1583
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: Those bye weeks you get maybe a weekend to kind

1584
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 3: of hang with the fam, but that's it. And for

1585
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 3: players you get the bye week and maybe some teams

1586
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 3: will give you the full week off and those things.

1587
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 3: But from from now until February, you're locked in. It's

1588
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 3: all ball, all the time, and so you got to

1589
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 3: focus then do that.

1590
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: All right, So that's what's going on. We'll have a

1591
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: complete update on the NFL with Adam Kaplan coming up

1592
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: here shortly. I want to talking about a couple of

1593
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: players that are in the trade news two different sports.

1594
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: Start with Damian Lillard, who last time I check, is

1595
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 2: still a Portland Trail Blazer. And again when he made

1596
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: a public that he wanted out, the Blazers had what

1597
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 2: I thought was the proper response, saying, we will accommodate you,

1598
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 2: but understand this, We're gonna do what's best for the franchise.

1599
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: So what is that saying, Well, it is saying, Damian Lillard,

1600
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: with all due respect to my buddy Bill Walton, is

1601
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 2: the greatest Blazer of all time. It's not Clyde Drexler,

1602
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: It's not Bill Walton. Damian Lillard is the greatest Blazer

1603
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: of them all, I believe, even though he hasn't won

1604
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 2: championships in that So, if you're the Blazers, you have

1605
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 2: a certain regard for Damian Lillard, what he's meant for

1606
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: your franchise, and where he stands with the all time greats.

1607
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 2: Where he still stands. He's coming off of season he

1608
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: averaged more than thirty two points a game. On the

1609
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: other side, if you are looking to acquire Damian Lillard,

1610
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 2: who by the way, has a long term deal, the

1611
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: last year of which is going to pay him sixty

1612
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: two million dollars, you have to balance what to give

1613
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: up in order to still have a team for him

1614
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: to join. And if you're Damian Lillard, that has to

1615
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: be a problem for you as well. If you look

1616
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: at what a team is giving up in order to

1617
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: get you to that team, where does that leave you?

1618
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: Maybe things weren't so bad in Portland if I'm going

1619
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 2: to a team that's completely gutted in order to acquire

1620
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: my services. So this to me is a little bit

1621
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 2: of a catch twenty two right now, Like you're sort

1622
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: of caught in between, Like, all right, what's what's bests

1623
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: for me? If I'm Damian Lillard? Is it to stay

1624
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: in Portland? Hope that you know Scoot Henderson is going

1625
01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: to be that kind of a player that we start

1626
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: build holding some pieces although essentially they play the same position,

1627
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: or do I go elsewhere? But a team that could

1628
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 2: be greatly diminished simply by what they have to give

1629
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 2: up in order to give me.

1630
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 3: It's a tough one. And I know that Dame Lilard

1631
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: is putting a line in the sands, and he and

1632
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 3: reported these representatives have talked to the team and say,

1633
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 3: if you trade for him, he's not coming. He's not

1634
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 3: going to be a happy camper in those things. But

1635
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 3: I think if you're the Blazers. You have to do

1636
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: what's right by the squad. You have to do what's

1637
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 3: right in terms of in the best interests of the

1638
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 3: team to make sure that you get the players that

1639
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 3: will enable you to eventually compete for a title. And

1640
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 3: so whether you want to do right by Dame Lillard

1641
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 3: or not, like, hey, we can do that, but a

1642
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 3: deal is a deal, and as a general manager, your

1643
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: job is to look after the interest of the franchise

1644
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 3: and you hope that if you're working together on a

1645
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 3: trade that it aligns with what Dame Lidard want. But

1646
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 3: ultimately it's about the team and make sure that the

1647
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 3: team has what it needs to be able to compete

1648
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: for the long term.

1649
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about your Miami Heat and what exactly

1650
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: they would have to give up, and you've already lost

1651
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: two players, Struce and Vincent are gone, and so you know,

1652
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 2: there could be the idea that, hey, we can we

1653
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: can just bring in these undrafted players and like Caleb Martin,

1654
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 2: make them a player.

1655
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 3: That's right.

1656
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: Well, okay, that sounds great in theory, but it doesn't

1657
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 2: always work that way. No nobody ever hits one hundred

1658
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: percent of the time. So yeah, you. You were able

1659
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: to put together a very representative bench with a bunch

1660
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 2: of guys that were undrafted to get this run to

1661
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 2: the NBA finals. The idea that you can replace all

1662
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: of them, because you would have to gut the balance

1663
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 2: of that bench in order to get Lillard. You might

1664
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: even have to throw in your first round pick hotcas

1665
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: in order to get Lillard and leave yourself with no

1666
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: be so good.

1667
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1668
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: Did you see him the other day? I told you

1669
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 2: how good he is. First of all, he's a guy

1670
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,440
Speaker 2: that played four years of college.

1671
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: Man.

1672
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 2: You see, he's ready for the NBA.

1673
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 3: He has a game that's so nice. In the comparison

1674
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 3: that people have made between he and Jimmy Butler spot on,

1675
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 3: he is a really really good player. And it made

1676
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 3: me when I'm watching him play the other night, I

1677
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 3: now have an understanding why if they were going to

1678
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 3: move off of Tyler hero, well, he slides right in

1679
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 3: because he is a guy who can get his He

1680
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 3: can get his buckets off the bounce, he can do

1681
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 3: a bunch of different things. Really good player, fearless guy.

1682
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: He'll go to the hoop strong. He can rebound for you,

1683
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 2: he can pass, he can just he can do it

1684
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 2: all for you on the court. But that that's the problem.

1685
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: Now here, here's another one. All right, So the Lollard

1686
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: situations in limbo right now, but a much more urgency

1687
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: is the situation going on right now with the Los

1688
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 2: Angeles Angels and show hey Otani. So the Angels have

1689
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 2: had a rough run recently. They're back to five hundred,

1690
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: they're five games out in the Wildcard chase. Mike Trout

1691
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: is out for up to two months, and shohe Otani

1692
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 2: is a free agent at the end of the year.

1693
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Trade deadline is at the end of the month. I

1694
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 2: heard my dear friend Rich Ornberger talk about this early

1695
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: this morning here on Fox Sports Radio, and we were

1696
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 2: thinking along the same lines. Let's say the Angels decide, look,

1697
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: is there a chance that we could resign him. We're

1698
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 2: going to do everything in our power to resign him,

1699
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 2: but he may just decide he wants to play elsewhere.

1700
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: So we've decided to trade him. And then you're like, Okay,

1701
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 2: can you imagine this guy already has one hundred hits

1702
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 2: and one hundred strikeouts, He's leading the majors and home

1703
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 2: runs and he's a picture. It's almost impossible to figure

1704
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 2: out what is the proper trade value for show Heyotani,

1705
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: because we've never had a show Heyotani No, so you

1706
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: don't even have any kind of barometer of But if

1707
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: you're one of those teams interested in Otani and you

1708
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: have to give up an unprecedented bowload of players, draft picks,

1709
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: whatever to get him, where does that leave you? And

1710
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: also understanding that if you don't resign him, you gave

1711
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: up all that for what half a season? He may

1712
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,480
Speaker 2: be untradeable.

1713
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 3: M hm.

1714
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 2: Because if you're a team that is interested in show

1715
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: Heyo Tani, knowing that, hey, we'll be in the running

1716
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: to sign him as a free agent after the season,

1717
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: why would I make a deal now when the Angels

1718
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 2: are gonna want half my roster?

1719
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1720
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: Why would I make that deal?

1721
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 8: Now?

1722
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 3: You got to roll the dice. I think everyone should

1723
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 3: be willing to roll the dice. The Angels should roll

1724
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 3: the dice that he is going to resign with I

1725
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't move off of him. But if you're those other teams,

1726
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 3: I'm not gutting my farm system. I'm not getting my

1727
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 3: my my current roster to take him on, particularly if

1728
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 3: I feel like he is going to be a willing

1729
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 3: listener on the open market. I'll take my chances there

1730
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 3: where it doesn't cost me anything. But just I mean,

1731
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna cost me a lot in terms

1732
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 3: of dollars and cents, but I'm not going to give

1733
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 3: up the players and the other assets to bring him

1734
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 3: on board.

1735
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he's tradable right now. I mean, it

1736
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 2: sounds crazy, right I mean, is there ever had a

1737
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 2: player that had more value than show Aotani has right now?

1738
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: But he's a free agent at the end of the year.

1739
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 2: Why would I give up all my top prospects, all

1740
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: of them? I mean the Angels. If you are the Angels,

1741
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 2: I want your one, two, three, four, five top prospects,

1742
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 2: probably two already established starting players. I want your pitching prospects. Obviously,

1743
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 2: I got to replace my best pitcher and you're gonna

1744
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 2: give up all that for a guy that could walk

1745
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 2: at the.

1746
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 3: End of the year. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't,

1747
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't. You just have to, man, You just have

1748
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 3: to You have to buy in.

1749
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 2: M hmm.

1750
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 3: You have to buy into the fact that you can

1751
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 3: find a way to get him at the end of

1752
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 3: the year. You don't want to give up those things

1753
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 3: because if you give up those things, it you're bringing

1754
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 3: him into a lesser team. You want to make sure

1755
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 3: that you have him ready to go for a team

1756
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 3: that can actually compete at the highest level.

1757
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 2: So you bring up the point right there, because if

1758
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 2: he's looking at long term of your team, what do

1759
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: you have left. I'm not signing with you, guys. You

1760
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: gave up all your your entire pharmacists then to get me,

1761
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 2: So I mean it. It's I don't think the Angels

1762
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 2: really are going to get anywhere near what they think

1763
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 2: in offers if they try to try show. Hey, Otani,

1764
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 2: all right, we're going to detour to the NFL our

1765
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan will join us.

1766
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, Bucky Brooks, Fox

1767
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are coming you live from the tai

1768
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 2: Iraq dot Com studios. Well, it's always an honor, always

1769
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 2: a pleasure to share part of our show every single

1770
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 2: week with a man very gracious with his time. He's

1771
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 2: very busy. He's got to keep track of everybody, everything

1772
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 2: that's going on with the National Football League. Our Fox

1773
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 2: Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan is joining us once again.

1774
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 2: So Adam, I was asking Bucky, what is happening behind

1775
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 2: the scenes with NFL teams, you know, post fourth at July,

1776
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 2: few more weeks before we get ready for the started

1777
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 2: training camp. What do you do over these next couple

1778
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 2: of weeks, What kind of contexts, what kind of info

1779
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: are you getting out of these NFL teams or is

1780
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 2: everyone sort of just you know, taking a deep breath

1781
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 2: before the point of no return, which is of course

1782
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: the start a training camp.

1783
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 8: Yes, Steeve. Actually, what I'm doing because I've got tour,

1784
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,759
Speaker 8: a pretty big tour. I see over half the league.

1785
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 8: I just kind of want to know how workies were

1786
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 8: doing and how the new players who were acquired doing

1787
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 8: free agency are doing. And it gives me sort of

1788
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 8: a sort of a base. But when I go into

1789
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 8: camp what to look for, because look, if there's someone

1790
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 8: who's struggling that I heard there that this team is

1791
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 8: depending on, while, I'm going to have to look at

1792
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 8: that closer because we have a story there. So now

1793
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 8: look at that stuff, the new players, new offensive schemes.

1794
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 8: It's actually at a football camp which I'm driving back from,

1795
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 8: and I was just talking to a bunch of players

1796
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 8: who are on various teams. So it's interesting to hear

1797
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 8: how rookies view the new schemes that they're playing in

1798
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 8: and which are completely different that they played in college.

1799
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 3: You know, Adam, there's a lot of conversation about DeAndre

1800
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 3: Hopkins potentially joining up with the New ENGLD Pages, he

1801
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 3: and Dalvin Cook. How realistic is that for the Pages

1802
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 3: to be able to pull that often sign those two veterans.

1803
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, so let's start with the latter, Dalvin Cook. They

1804
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 8: are looking for another running back. They don't have a

1805
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 8: backup to Ramander Stevenson, who really did well last season.

1806
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 8: A uh, they really like him. He did last season.

1807
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 8: In fact, he went down a little bit and they

1808
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 8: didn't really have a good backup for him, and that's

1809
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 8: why they're looking for a veteran. Dalviacok went to a

1810
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,719
Speaker 8: decent coin and that's not what's happening in New England.

1811
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 8: Things could change if they if they actually up the

1812
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 8: annie and try to compete against the Dolphins, who are

1813
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 8: certainly the favorite. There are a couple other teams involved.

1814
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 8: And then with Hopkins, you know, Bill's done this forever

1815
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 8: when he likes the player, he'll pursue that and then

1816
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 8: sometimes they ever spend. Some people say it's not really

1817
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 8: the way that the pictures want to do it, but

1818
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,719
Speaker 8: they will do that on occasion. With Jona Smith, look,

1819
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 8: they went crazy. They paid him twelve and a half

1820
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 8: million a year. I mean that was it didn't work

1821
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 8: out hun or Henry same thing just under that, and

1822
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 8: they that offense didn't work out With Mike Sticky, he's

1823
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 8: more of a spread offensive tight end. I looked at him,

1824
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 8: and if they get Hopkins, they're gonna go with more

1825
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 8: eleven personnel, be way more three receivers and receivers. And

1826
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 8: they had a recent past. That's the way Bill sees it.

1827
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 8: And Bill look again, he looks at it and goes,

1828
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 8: who do I really have? Okay, DeVante Parkernic's player, they

1829
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 8: extend its contract. It actually creates some cap space. There's

1830
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 8: nobody specially with the receiver position. And this guy Hopkins,

1831
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,759
Speaker 8: he may not be explosive, but he moves the chains.

1832
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: I want to ask about a couple of quarterbacks in

1833
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 2: their status as in when are we going to see

1834
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 2: them on the field. Jimmy Garoppolo the Raiders and Brock

1835
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 2: party with the forty nine.

1836
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 8: Ers, five of the Niners. They expect him to be

1837
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 8: available sometime during training camp. Certainly they're not worried about

1838
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 8: the season. But here's the thing though, even if he's ready,

1839
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 8: which he will be faring a setback, I don't know

1840
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 8: who he's been play in the preseason. And then with Garoppolo,

1841
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 8: they insist he's going to be on the field, but

1842
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 8: they won't What they will not tell you is how

1843
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 8: much he will practice in training camp. In fact, Brian

1844
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 8: Hoyer's contract, I'm told, has depending on how far they

1845
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 8: would go. If he had to play in the playoffs.

1846
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 8: He actually can make some more coin depending what on

1847
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 8: his incentives how much he'd have to play. But now

1848
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 8: they continue to assist that that he's going to be

1849
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 8: available during training camp Garoppolo, but they're not going to

1850
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 8: say how much he's going to practice. That's certainly a key.

1851
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 3: You know, Adam, I'm sure you've had the opportunity to

1852
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 3: check him with some of these teams they drafted riocky

1853
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 3: quarterbacks high. What have you heard on some of the

1854
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 3: guys like Bryce Young or CJ. Stroud or any other

1855
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 3: ricky quarterbacks.

1856
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, Bryce, I was doing great. He's a starter. They

1857
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 8: already installed him as that. Richardson's not ready yet, but

1858
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 8: they're going to bring him along slowly. They thought he

1859
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 8: did well in OTA's, but again it's OTA's. It's not

1860
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 8: like real football T shirts and shorts. It's the real

1861
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 8: business starts in training camp and looking for imbly. I

1862
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 8: probably will visit the Colts. I look forward to that.

1863
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 9: CG.

1864
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 8: Stroud got off to a good start. It's just again

1865
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 8: as bucky, as you know from working in the business.

1866
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 8: It's ots. I don't put a lot of stock in it.

1867
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 8: It's one. It's when everybody could fly at you. Yes,

1868
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 8: you can't tackle quarterback, but you could actually be physical

1869
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 8: with your offensive line. You can rush the quarterback. The

1870
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 8: training camp and the preseason before to that, and also

1871
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 8: these joint practices. A lot of these teams, by the way,

1872
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 8: I work with one another.

1873
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 2: So I celebrated my sixty fifth birthday on the fourth

1874
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 2: of July, my first birthday by the way that I

1875
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 2: share with my late great boss, Al Davis. The fourth

1876
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 2: of July and my sister, my brother in law came

1877
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 2: into town. Now, my brother in law is amazing because

1878
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: he has been an unwavering lifetime Detroit Lions fan, and

1879
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 2: I reminded him that in my lifetime, because they won

1880
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 2: their last NFL championship the year before I was born,

1881
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty steven, that they've won a total of one

1882
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 2: playoff game. One playoff game in my lifetime. It's pretty

1883
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 2: long life so far. So at the end of the season,

1884
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 2: of the teams that did not make it into the postseason,

1885
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: there was as much buzz for the Lions as any

1886
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: team in this league. And so I get a chance

1887
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 2: to talk to him, my brother in law, and he

1888
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 2: is just typed up, you know, starting with obviously that

1889
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 2: opening game against the Kansas City Chiefs. And I didn't

1890
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:11,520
Speaker 2: know really what to tell them because until they prove otherwise,

1891
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 2: the Lions de me are still the Lions. And so

1892
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 2: I want to get your expertise on where they were

1893
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 2: at the end of last year, what they've done in

1894
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 2: the off season. Can they have the breakout season that

1895
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: so many people are predicting for this team in twenty twenty.

1896
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 8: Three and Steve, I'm Max sh penciled them as the

1897
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 8: division winner in the NFC North. Now, okay, so you

1898
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 8: talk about what they've done, well, I know there's been

1899
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 8: some criticism of what they did in the first round,

1900
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 8: not specifically the talent level of Jack Campbellho's an off

1901
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 8: the ball linebacker, the play inside linebacker in their thirty

1902
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 8: four front, and Jamier Gabbs is not in every down back,

1903
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 8: but he's super explosive. You typically don't take running backs

1904
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,520
Speaker 8: around three down backs in the first round. David Montgomery's

1905
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 8: going to be their starter at running back and Jack

1906
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 8: Campbell's on a test rush. Some criticism, I certainly understand that,

1907
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 8: but when you look at their defense, that was the

1908
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 8: issue last year. Their issue. Their offense was not a

1909
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 8: problemad Al Jared Gava much improved season. They signed Cam Sutton,

1910
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 8: who was a corner formerly the Steel as a starter.

1911
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 8: They bring in CJ. Gardi Johnson, who probably would have

1912
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:21,560
Speaker 8: led the NFL interceptions at the safety position for the

1913
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 8: Eagles last season. Now he got hurt. He suffered a

1914
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 8: significant injury. I believe the Lace rated Kidney. I know

1915
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 8: the lines feel really good about him, and they think

1916
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 8: they have really sort of reshuffled the deck in their secondary,

1917
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 8: which was bad last season. They've got a pretty good

1918
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 8: pass rush. Aiden Hutchinson down a second year they feel

1919
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 8: really good about it. Yeah, they're They're clearly favorite. And

1920
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 8: by the way, the Vegas Odje makers feel the same

1921
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 8: way too. They've got an over runner of nine and

1922
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 8: a half wins, depending which book you look at. I

1923
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 8: don't want to say they're shoe win because the package

1924
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,600
Speaker 8: of Tour and Love plays above average football. They're going

1925
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 8: to put for that division. But that the Lions don't forget.

1926
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 8: Folks Week eighteen lines one Sunday Night Football. But early

1927
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 8: in the day the Seahawks got there were the benefitiary

1928
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 8: of some really bad calls against the Rams, and the

1929
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 8: Seahawks backed in. But the bottom line is the lines

1930
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 8: are the only show I have is Jameson Williams. He's

1931
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 8: got to serve that six game suspension. That does worry

1932
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Speaker 8: me because they're very light at the receiver position on depth, you.

1933
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Speaker 3: Know, Adam, In terms of being light, some of our

1934
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 3: guys are lighting the focus because they hadn't got paid

1935
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Speaker 3: yet when it comes to their franchise texts. So which

1936
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 3: of the franchise guys, particularly the running backs, is likely

1937
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Speaker 3: to get a long term extension.

1938
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Speaker 8: Well, I bark listen just to you know, I kind

1939
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 8: of laugh, like you know, a player will consists by

1940
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 8: the media, well would you consider like holding out or

1941
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 8: not playing the season, and sometimes the player just come,

1942
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 8: We'll just say what's on their mind. No one is

1943
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 8: not playing the season. One guy did it Le'Veon Bell

1944
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 8: that ruined his career and that he never was able

1945
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 8: to make up that money and he struggled with a

1946
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 8: chance and that was it. As you know, No, he'll

1947
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 8: look Barkley, look these come down. And by the way,

1948
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 8: July seventeenth, because the the fifteenth is on a weekend,

1949
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 8: so it'll go to the Monday. They've made progress with Barkley.

1950
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 8: They want to get this done. Josh Jacobs is going

1951
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 8: to be hard to get done. And then of course

1952
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 8: you got the quarterbacks Burrow and Herbert. Now their situation

1953
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 8: is a little different because they don't need to get

1954
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 8: these It just seems to don't need to do these

1955
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 8: deals because it's early. But typically when you know you

1956
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 8: have your franchise quarterback, you don't make them wait. This

1957
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 8: is not a Kirk Cousin situation. By the way, when

1958
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 8: he was with Washington, when Kirk just would not sign

1959
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 8: and they kept franchising them, that's not going to happen here.

1960
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 8: With eve of those quarterbacks and Kirk Kirk left those teams,

1961
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 8: that team Washington. But these guys are going nowhere.

1962
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Speaker 3: See.

1963
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Speaker 2: I look at the Herbert Burrow situation a little game

1964
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: of chicken right now, because if the Chargers sign Herbert

1965
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 2: to a deal beyond whatever Cincinnati deaned, they might have

1966
01:41:56,439 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 2: to pay Joe Burrow. That's not exactly a friend. It's

1967
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 2: known to spend a lot of money. So uh, I

1968
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like both those teams are sort

1969
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 2: of and believe me, the Chargers are very similar. These

1970
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 2: are two franchises not exactly known to open up the

1971
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 2: pocketbooks and spend at a high level. And they both

1972
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: have those kind of quarterbacks. So it's you know, and once,

1973
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 2: yeah and one once one team makes the move, though

1974
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 2: obviously be pressure on the other team. All right, we

1975
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 2: got so many things, but we're gonna we're gonna space

1976
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 2: it out over the next couple of weeks. If that's

1977
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 2: good with you, Adam.

1978
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 8: Sounds good, my friend, Yes, And we'll start looking known

1979
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 8: by division or no camp storylines. In fact, I forgot

1980
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 8: I was talking to the Jets this week. I forgot

1981
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 8: they they're in the Hall of Fame game so the

1982
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 8: Browns and Jets report not this week but early the

1983
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 8: following week because they're in a week early.

1984
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: All right, Well, good teams to talk about all around.

1985
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 2: We got to pace ourselves. There's just too much, too much,

1986
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 2: too soon. With a great Adam Kapain, Adam, have a

1987
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 2: great week. Thanks so much for joining us. We'll talk

1988
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 2: to you next week.

1989
01:42:58,160 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 8: Oh, thank you.

1990
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 2: That's Adam Kaplan. Are Fox Sports Radio NFL insiders? So

1991
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 2: many teams I want to get to, you know, like

1992
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 2: like Sean Payton and the Broncos, you know, and all

1993
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: this buzz that what happened last year with Russell Wilson

1994
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 2: was an aberration.

1995
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 3: He'll be back.

1996
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: You watch, We'll see. Let's find out what's trending right now.

1997
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 2: There's only a few things that are etched in stone,

1998
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 2: and of course one of them is that Mancy Belanos

1999
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 2: is working here at Fox Sports Radio.

2000
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 7: That's a good one, it is.

2001
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your next run as a host? Have

2002
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 2: they given you any clue?

2003
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 8: Not?

2004
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:31,640
Speaker 2: Did you get any feedback?

2005
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 7: I did.

2006
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 4: I got a lot of positive feedback from people from

2007
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:37,759
Speaker 4: people here at the station.

2008
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 7: It was really great.

2009
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 4: Only a few people told me how much they hate me.

2010
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 4: On social media, so that's.

2011
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: Find only a few.

2012
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 7: Actually, I find it really funny.

2013
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 4: If you use a good gift to tell me that

2014
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 4: you don't like me, I will laugh.

2015
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 7: I will like it. Be creative. If you're gonna tell

2016
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 7: me you don't like me, don't just put that. Use something.

2017
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 7: So some of them are quite funny, I get.

2018
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 2: I could show you plenty of those over the course

2019
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 2: of my career. Very creative.

2020
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, as long as it's creative, I'm all about it.

2021
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:04,759
Speaker 7: It's okay.

2022
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 2: I get a good laugh out of most of them.

2023
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 4: Right, as long as you're creative about it and obviously

2024
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 4: part of it.

2025
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 7: There's also a fine.

2026
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 4: Line between just trying to be like an ass or

2027
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 4: be mean, you know what I mean. Like, there's a

2028
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 4: fine line. So if you're funny about it, I'm all

2029
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 4: about it. I'll like a mean tweet about me. It

2030
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 4: is as long as you are funny and creative.

2031
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Speaker 2: Here's my thing. There are a million things you could

2032
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 2: be critical of me about. But every once in a

2033
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 2: while there's something that I'm like, no, yeah, no, that's

2034
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 2: actually something I did.

2035
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Speaker 7: Okay, right right, those are the best ones.

2036
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 2: It's like, No, of all the things, I'm easy game here.

2037
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I said.

2038
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 4: Okay, we don't have time for that is what you

2039
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 4: want to say to those people.

2040
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 7: We do have time to talk about Elie dela Cruz.

2041
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 4: This guy is so fast and so good. The Reds

2042
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 4: and the Brewers they are, you know, neck and neck.

2043
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 4: When it comes to the NL Central, Cincinnati is up

2044
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 4: by one game, and this game has been back and forth.

2045
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 4: They we're tied at five apiece, and of course Ellie

2046
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 4: Delaruez with an RBI single to give the Reds a

2047
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 4: one run lead. Then this guy decides, I'm gonna show

2048
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 4: you how fast I am. He's steals second base, then

2049
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 4: he steals third base, and then the Brewers are not

2050
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 4: paying attention and he steals home. So now the Reds

2051
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 4: are beating the Brewers by two runs, all because of Elie.

2052
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 7: De la Cruz. Seven to five is the score, bottom

2053
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 7: of the seventh inning.

2054
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 4: Now let's talk about Luis Araz. He was not playing

2055
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 4: for the Marlins today. They just put him in to

2056
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 4: pinch hit.

2057
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 7: What does he do?

2058
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 4: RBI single, He's batting three eighty eight. The Marlins are

2059
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 4: beating the Phillies five to three. Top of the eighth inning,

2060
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 4: the Pirates and the Diamondbacks are in the top of

2061
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 4: the tenth inning. Diamondbacks ended up tying the game thanks

2062
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,759
Speaker 4: to Alec Thomas solo shot in the eighth inning. Pirates

2063
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 4: have already scored top of the tenth inning, so they're

2064
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 4: up on the Diamondbacks in Arizona two to one.

2065
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 7: Top of the tenth inning.

2066
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 4: Pirates have a man on second and third, but they

2067
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 4: are down to their final out. Yankees beat the Cups

2068
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 4: earlier today, six to three. The Orioles have won four

2069
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 4: in a row. They took down the Twins six to two,

2070
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 4: so the Twins are now tied with the Guardians for

2071
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 4: the top spot in the Al Central.

2072
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 7: The Guardians are playing right now.

2073
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 4: They're beating the Royals five to one bottom of the

2074
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 4: fifth inning, but it was the Tigers who had a

2075
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 4: combine no hitter. They shout out the Blue Jays to

2076
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:18,520
Speaker 4: zero was the final score.

2077
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:19,759
Speaker 7: At Little Soccer News.

2078
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 4: Because Megan Rapino announced that she's gonna retire at the

2079
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 4: end of the soccer season. She is gonna compete in

2080
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 4: her fourth Women's World Cup tournament that all kicks off

2081
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 4: July twentieth, and we got to mention Wimbledon because not

2082
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 4: just Carlos Alcaraz He is headed yes to the fourth

2083
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 4: round at Wimbledon. He won today four tough sets. But

2084
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 4: we have to talk about American Chris you Banks. I

2085
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:44,560
Speaker 4: don't know who he was, but now I do. Apparently

2086
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 4: this guy's been trying to like just break into the

2087
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 4: scene at tennis, has not had a lot of success.

2088
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 4: He is having success. He is also headed to the

2089
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 4: fourth round at Wimbledon. He won his match today, but

2090
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 4: he is gonna face Stefanos.

2091
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm glad you got that. Oh good that one,

2092
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 7: whatever you just said.

2093
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 4: So it's gonna definitely have a tough match coming up

2094
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 4: in the fourth round at Wimbledon.

2095
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:13,600
Speaker 7: Fellas, it's been fun.

2096
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I will tell you my many

2097
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 2: years of doing TV, which is the only time I

2098
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 2: would ever have to use these names. Yes, it's it's

2099
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:24,480
Speaker 2: like a minefield.

2100
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 7: Oh, I don't know how you do it.

2101
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 2: There are and especially if you get one that it

2102
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 2: has like you're gonna have to like they win, right,

2103
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 2: and you're like, like the name, you can practice it now.

2104
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Then it comes up on the prompter and you just

2105
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 2: see scrambled letters, like there's nothing that relates to how

2106
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 2: they told you right, that's the name. And then if

2107
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 2: they do like a fanatical you know, then you then

2108
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 2: it sounds like it you're like, uh uh, you know,

2109
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 2: which sounds ridiculous. Again, it's a lose lose Mine's a

2110
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 2: great job and always absolutely once again we're coming you

2111
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Speaker 2: lie from the ti iraq dot com studios. I want

2112
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 2: to ask you, Bucky about one of the new coaches

2113
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 2: head coaches in the NFL, and that's Tamiko Ryans, who

2114
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 2: will take over a job in which we've had what

2115
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 2: three consecutive one and done coaches and then this is

2116
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:21,520
Speaker 2: the fourth coach in fourth years, four years for the

2117
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 2: Houston Texans, and he highly respected, a guy that a

2118
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Speaker 2: lot of teams had targeted as a potential head coach

2119
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 2: and now he's going to take over franchise that completely

2120
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 2: skid it off the path obviously with the Sean Watson

2121
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 2: situation everything else, But in trying to figure out whether

2122
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 2: a guy has got the it factor to be a

2123
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 2: head coach, I mean it's a mixed bag. We've seen

2124
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 2: great offensive and defensive coordinators who are dean can't miss

2125
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 2: prospect and they just don't have it. And then we've

2126
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 2: seen special team coaches. You know, John Harbaugh was a

2127
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 2: special teams coach. Mike Tomlin, I mean, no one thought

2128
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 2: that Mike Tomlin, you know, would be a Hall of

2129
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,599
Speaker 2: Fame coach. But he's had a Hall of Fame coaching career.

2130
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 2: You know, Dimiko Ryans and obviously has tremided he had

2131
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 2: to respect as a player as an assistant throughout his

2132
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 2: NFL career. What are your thoughts, I mean, is he

2133
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 2: in the right place at the right time to fulfill

2134
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 2: the promise that so many people have for him of

2135
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 2: being a successful head coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He's a really bright, really bright guy. He's had great

2137
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 3: influencers around him in terms of those that he coached,

2138
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 3: that coached him, what he's been around, the program that

2139
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 3: he was in in San Francisco, So he understands what

2140
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 3: does she look like? The success that he had with

2141
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 3: the Texans because they went to the playoffs when he

2142
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 3: was a part of that team. He has a tough

2143
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 3: task because he is kind of breaking in a young

2144
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 3: coaching with a young team, and so trying to get

2145
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 3: everybody on the same page can be a bit of

2146
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 3: a problem. And then when it comes to the defense,

2147
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Speaker 3: he has some pieces, but he doesn't have the same

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01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 3: pieces that he had when he was in San Francisco.

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01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 3: So will he be able to pivot if this team

2150
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 3: is unable to play his preferred scheme? Can he put

2151
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 3: them in a situation where they can play to their

2152
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 3: strips based on what he has available to him? But

2153
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 3: in terms of leadership ability, in terms of what I

2154
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 3: heard people say about his skills as a tactician and strategist,

2155
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 3: he has those things. But as a young coach, it's

2156
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 3: hard when you're now in the big chair with the

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01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 3: big whistle, And so what would that adjustment period look like?

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Speaker 2: We are talking earlier about Belichick and Brady and the

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01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 2: fact that people are saying, well, you know what does

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01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 2: he want with Al Brady? Well, guess what. You can

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01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 2: see that about almost every Hall of Fame coach, they've

2162
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 2: had a quarterback that was their guy that win championships,

2163
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 2: ultimately getting them into the Hall of Fame. When you

2164
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 2: talk about C. J. Stroud, and we've heard some promising

2165
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 2: news about strou that he he looks like he belongs.

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01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 2: You know, all the early stuff, it's always going to

2167
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 2: be positive stuff.

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Speaker 3: At this point.

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Speaker 2: I'm always reminded of a coach that is in the

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01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. People forget, and that was Dick for Meal.

2171
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 2: When he first came up with the Philadelphia Eagles, they

2172
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 2: had acquired a young quarterback named Ron Jawarski from the Rams,

2173
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 2: but he was still pretty untested and the Eagles were

2174
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:35,639
Speaker 2: not good those first couple of years.

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01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 3: And they think.

2176
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:40,839
Speaker 2: There's a very famous NFL Films sideline shot of evermil

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01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 2: with Jawarski where he's looking at Jaworski who's thrown an interception.

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Speaker 2: Understand this, I will never bench you. I will never

2179
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 2: bench you. And the next thing you know, they go

2180
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 2: from nothing to a playoff team all the way to

2181
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl appearance in a short amount of time.

2182
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 2: Dimiko Ryans strike you as the kind of guy that

2183
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 2: will have the patients with a young quarterback who will

2184
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,719
Speaker 2: struggle like every young quarterback does. All the greats did

2185
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:15,679
Speaker 2: have the kind of patients necessary to see him through

2186
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 2: to the other side. I think so will he be

2187
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 2: afforded that opportunity by the organization?

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01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 3: Well, with a six year deal, he's afforded that opportunity.

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01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 3: They also know the reputation back to back coaches have

2190
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 3: been canned after one and done stint, so he will

2191
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 3: get a full, a complete opportunity to turn this thing

2192
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 3: around six years on. The deal will make it as such.

2193
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 3: I also think he has the perspective of knowing what

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01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 3: it should look like or what it could be with

2195
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 3: a young quarterback. He's seeing two different examples with the

2196
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 3: forty nine ers. He watched Trey Lance struggle, some of

2197
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 3: that was due to injury, and then he watched Brock Purdy,

2198
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 3: an experienced player, come in and have success as they

2199
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 3: built the offense with him as a compliment. And that's

2200
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 3: not necessarily lead the driving force. And so if he

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01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 3: can have his brothers, he would certainly like to put

2202
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 3: it on the running back Damian Pierce to be able

2203
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 3: to kind of carry the offense while CJ. Stroud is

2204
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 3: getting it going. There are a lot of moving parts.

2205
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 3: There are a lot of things that are going on

2206
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 3: at one time. Young head coach, young quarterback coordinators that

2207
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 3: are new to calling the game. That's a lot and

2208
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 3: so I just can't wait to see how he manages

2209
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 3: it all. And when he gets to that that epiphany

2210
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 3: point in the middle of season, he's like, Okay, I

2211
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 3: need to scale it down. This is who we are.

2212
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 3: This is what we're going to do. This is best

2213
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 3: for this team.

2214
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 2: All right, What do we learn from Wemby's debut last

2215
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 2: night and what kind of week is it going to

2216
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 2: be in the world of sports? Will put a rap

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01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 2: on this show. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 10: The Yokswu pitch swinging at Chopper left side, charging in McKinstry,

2219
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 10: I'm the.

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01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 3: First no hitter.

2221
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 10: For the first time in franchise history, the Tigers have

2222
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 10: thrown in oh hitter, a combined no hitter as the

2223
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 10: mob Alix lang on the mound, and they have done

2224
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 10: it here today. Jimmy, what a quinn for the Tigers.

2225
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 10: A no hitter this afternoon.

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01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 2: That's the Tigers Radio Network. It was not the first

2227
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 2: no hitter in Tiger's history. Combine no hitter. I got

2228
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 2: a little Tiger no hitter historical fact for you in

2229
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: a moment. By the way, that was our Progressive play

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Bucky Brooks with you

2235
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 2: from our tire rack dot Com studios. One of my

2236
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 2: favorite little there's so many, you know, stat craziness in

2237
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 2: the history of baseball. Here's one of my favorite ones,

2238
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 2: Bucky So In nineteen fifty two, the Detroit Tigers had

2239
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 2: a pitcher named Virgil Trucks, which in itself is a

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01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 2: pretty amazing name, right, Virgil Trucks. And he had a

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01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 2: really good career. I think he won like one hundred

2242
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 2: and seventy seven games. He was a really good pitcher

2243
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 2: for a long time. But in by far the worst

2244
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 2: year of his career in nineteen fifty two and a

2245
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 2: really bad Tigers team, he had a record of five

2246
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 2: and nineteen. He won five games. Two of those five

2247
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 2: wins were no hitters. He's one of six pitchers in

2248
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 2: the history of baseball to throw two no hitters in

2249
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 2: the same season. Not only did he throw two no

2250
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: hitters that year, one of his other five wins was

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01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 2: a one hit shutout, so he almost had three no

2252
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 2: hitters in one season in which his record was five

2253
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 2: and nineteen. Last pitcher throw two no hitters in the

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01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 2: season x sureser as a matter of fact, just a

2255
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 2: few years ago, Max shurez Er, Nolan Ryan did it.

2256
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 2: And then there's Johnny Vandermier. Will anyone ever break that record?

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01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 2: He's the only pitcher in the history of baseball to

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01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 2: throw back to back no hitters consecutive starts.

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01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody would get a chance to

2260
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 3: go clean game, to have it all by themselves. Did

2261
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:07,839
Speaker 3: it have to be a team effort?

2262
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: One thing about no Dodger ever going to have another chance?

2263
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 2: Because Dave Roberts he loves pulling pitchers with no hitters.

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01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 3: Okay, is that really Dave Roberts that the people up there,

2265
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 2: I mean when you're pulling Clayton Kershot out of a

2267
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 2: game when he has a seven to any perfect game

2268
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 2: and he's throwing what ninety pitches?

2269
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that him? Is that on the game

2270
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 3: script where they're saying, hey, he's going.

2271
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 2: To I don't know. I don't know. I would be

2272
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: overwriting that, you know, And he was fortunate because you know,

2273
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 2: at the Kershaw defended the decision. Kershaw has thrown a

2274
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 2: no hitter, But I mean perfect game. We just have

2275
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 2: what our twenty firth or a fifth or whatever it

2276
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 2: was with anyway, so unbelievable stuff going on in the

2277
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 2: baseball I want to thank the crew today. By the way,

2278
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 2: Chris did come in today. Now, Chris, you were supposed

2279
01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 2: to be here early today, and then Alex decided to

2280
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 2: be marathon man slept in his car, and he slept

2281
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 2: in his car. This was not your call, this was

2282
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 2: his call. Oh.

2283
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 11: He actually came up to me when I was in

2284
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 11: here this week and basically begged me to let him

2285
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 11: do that because he's got apparently some fancy hoity toity

2286
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 11: function to be at.

2287
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 2: And he's going to be passed out at that event

2288
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 2: tonight because he was sure.

2289
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 3: Sure.

2290
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 11: But I have no tears for that, because I've done

2291
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 11: that multiple times here and I will be doing it

2292
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 11: again here because I'm coming back in in the morning.

2293
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 3: I'll be with you Sunday morning. Oh, you sleep in

2294
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 3: the car like he did.

2295
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 11: No, I live I unlike Alex, I only live like

2296
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 11: fifteen minutes from here. I don't live all the way

2297
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 11: out in Riverside.

2298
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 2: Well, the reason you're going to be here as well tomorrow, Chris,

2299
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 2: is that Iowa Sam invited himself to my house on Sunday.

2300
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 2: He hung out with me and then made a trip

2301
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 2: back to Iowa. It's a long story, but he yeah,

2302
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 2: he was actually at the Hartman House at the Hartman Complex,

2303
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 2: at the Complex Compound Sunday Compound. The company will have

2304
01:57:57,480 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 2: a full report on that. Manse doing a nominal job,

2305
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 2: as she always does. And then there's Brandon, a brilliant

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01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 2: producer who you know.

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01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 3: It's also been.

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01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 2: Absent from our show the last few weeks with all

2309
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 2: the juggling it's been going. It's good to see you

2310
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 2: back here, Brandon. Yeah, are you here permanently or what's

2311
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 2: what's there?

2312
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 3: For a little while. I haven't hear him talking about

2313
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 3: the Padres. Quiet on that.

2314
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean they, by the way, the Podres. Actually they

2315
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 2: swept the Angels three in a row out of Peco.

2316
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 2: It was their first three game winning streak of the

2317
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 2: year and they're over half the way through the sea.

2318
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 2: How is that possible with the money, the.

2319
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 3: Money, that money they spent what they were just printing

2320
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 3: out money?

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Soda made the All Star team.

2322
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out. He's mister walk That's

2323
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 2: the thing about it, Soda. He walks a lot does

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01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 2: that make you? I mean leads the majors and walks.

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01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 3: You get on base. You have a good eye. Isn't

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01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 3: that what you say? Good eye? Good eye? Good eye?

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01:58:57,120 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 2: When did people deem that a walk is the equivalent

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01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 2: of a hit? You know why it's not because a

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01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 2: basic can actually advance a runner an extra base. The

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01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 2: last time I check, with a walk, everyone moves up

2331
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 2: one base. Yeah, but it's it's not it's not the same.

2332
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 3: It's not an out. It's positive you had a little

2333
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 3: plate discipline that you didn't see.

2334
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if pichion a guy, I don't know how

2335
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 2: much money he's gonna make or whatever, but I mean

2336
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars.

2337
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean, do I.

2338
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 2: Am I pay him to walk or swing for a

2339
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 2: home run?

2340
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 9: Or his approach going up there is all wrong because

2341
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 9: he's his approach is to look for a walk.

2342
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 3: Now look for a hit, right, Okay?

2343
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 2: I want to after Wimby's performance that you did not eyewitness,

2344
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 2: but you've been watching highlights all day long. Wimby, Wimby,

2345
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 2: is he going to be the Rookie of the Year

2346
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 2: in the NBA this year?

2347
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 3: I so early, but I'm still going to bank on

2348
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 3: wimby doing he has so much high big go and

2349
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 3: give it to him. If he does anything anything remotely

2350
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 3: close to being okay, he'll win.

2351
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 2: It, you think, so, Yeah, I'm going to predict he's

2352
01:59:58,840 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 2: not going to be a Rookie of the Year. Does

2353
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 2: the media isn't gonna have a great career, Okay, I

2354
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 2: know VJ and Martin are getting ready to roll. Don't

2355
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 2: go anywhere, folks, keep it right here. Much more coming up.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.