1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws, 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: border and families will be protected. 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: I say, let's say, figuratively, right, a good day in 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: the office. Everybody is on form. They wake up one 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: day and they have a good day where they're motivated, 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: they're buzzy and they're on it. They're constructive, but not 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: many people can sustain that, and that's the difference. Yeah, 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: it's for me to do what I do is not 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: sure some people, it's really painful for them. 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: Dude, this is just wired into my head. 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: So like I have to stop myself from working and 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: thinking and strategizing and take time away, you know, as 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: opposed to thinking, oh I need to do this, I 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: need to I need to be here, I need to 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: work out this. Still, I got to work on that. 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: That's not like that for me. It's just all that water, 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: do you see what I mean? So I have an 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: advantage at the fact that I'm not working at trying 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 3: to be consistent. It's just absolutely natural. And I think 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: that's just the only difference. I'm not I'm made of 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: flesh blood, I'm not Einstein. My IQ is not crazy. 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: I'm a bit sharp. Yeah, I have great instincts, but 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: I'm just like anybody else. But the consistency is the 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: only difference that separates. 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: My graduates from my school being forced. 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 5: Back drop drop drop. 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 6: All right, guys, welcome back, e y l UK edition. 42 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 6: This is going to be a very very special, legendary episode. 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 6: I got a feeling Anton Dixon, Bellot said, correctly. So 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 6: I got introduced first of all, shout out to Ashley 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 6: who actually made the introduction on Instagram, and shout out 46 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 6: to everybody in UK because that's been a lot of that. 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 6: Like everybody that we've really been meeting, people that either 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 6: we just met or we didn't even know and they'd 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 6: like make an introduction. They've been very hospitable and very welcoming. 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 5: So thank you. 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 7: Relationships, man, it's all about war the money for sure. 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 6: So when she DM me, she was telling me she 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 6: was like, look, you got to interview this guy, like 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,559 Speaker 6: he's like our Tyler Perry here in the UK. And 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 6: so once I did the research and I saw the 56 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 6: Forbes articles and it's. 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 5: Very similar, very similar. So very interesting. 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 6: Story really started started from the bottom eighteen years ago, 59 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 6: I think right eighteen years ago. So he started doing 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 6: music videos, very you know, a low budget production music video. 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 6: Now he's scaled it to not only an eight figure 62 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 6: real estate portfolio, but media empire when he controls the 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 6: whole supply chain. So the Tyler Perry Tyler Perry comparison 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 6: is actually very fitting. 65 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 5: So we'll get into it. But he literally controls the 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: whole thing. He owns it. So he actually just brought. 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 6: In a state for I believe four million pounds on 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 6: the countryside of England where it's going to be. 69 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: We gets you. 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 7: Content studio with lots some of that. We've seen a lake. 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 7: Don't forget the lake. 72 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 5: Lots, huge estate, fifty two acres. 73 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 7: It's a lot. 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot. So this is this is gonna 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 5: be one of the ones. Man. 76 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 7: So first and foremost, we forgot one business. We can't 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 7: forget the multimillion dollar lens production. 78 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: Well I was gonna go through all of the business. 79 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 5: That's that's major. That's all part of the supply chain. 80 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, value chain. They said you chalue changing like. 81 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 5: That like that. Well, first and foremost, thank you for 82 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: joining us. Appreciate it. 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: Pleasure guys, thank you for having me hand. Trust me. 84 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 7: I said, we're gonna need horns anytime legends walking, we 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 7: need horns playing. I should have some horns playing on Presidence. 86 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: Is enough. 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 6: Trumpets, So let's let's do this. I want to go 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 6: through everything, but let's talk about your journey from starting 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 6: doing music videos to progression, Like how did you actually 90 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: get into even thinking about film production, filming, all of. 91 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 5: That stuff, you know what. 92 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: That that's a that's a part of my past. I 93 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: don't talk about too too much because is is kind 94 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: of so irrelevant now but was so relevant then. 95 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: But back in the day, like back in the day, 96 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: I was part of a grime you know, grime right, Yeah. 97 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 5: That's like before drill music. 98 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, well before that's like just after like garage house 99 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: and garage, you know. So I was part of a 100 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: grime group where a guya and myself who now actually 101 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: funny enough, has gone down the same route in music videos. 102 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: We started the grime group and we made our own 103 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: beats and we were the music producers. Some would spit 104 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: in it as well with wrap. And then this this 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: platform came about, which was called Channel You, which was 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: the first television channel for that played unsigned like low 107 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: budget music videos. So for the first time you had 108 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: more than an MTV base, you know whatever else, So 109 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: that they obviously made the barrier to entry a lot 110 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: lower to allow people like up myselves, like amateur filmmakers 111 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: or aspiring arecor to amateur filmmakers to come in and 112 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: try and basically try a thing to make a video 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: get submitted and see if they can get a broadcast. 114 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: So we just spoke about making our own video and 115 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: we made one from our own group, which was only 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: supposed to be for us to make our own content. 117 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: And I remember getting a phone call from one of 118 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: the channel managers and saying she's like, hey, Antoine, quick question, 119 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: how much did your music video costs? 120 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: And who made it for you? 121 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: Beca I've got a lot of people that are using 122 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: your video as a reference that they want to have 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: their video made. 124 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: I was like, gosh, we made the video. 125 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 3: And she was like, oh, okay, how much do you charge? 126 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: Because she's thinking that we do this, we're just rappers, 127 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: you know, And I'm like, I don't know. Off the 128 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: top of my head, I'm like five bills, like five 129 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: hundred pounds, and she's like okay, and then she put 130 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: us in touch. And obviously at that time everything was 131 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: for free. We're shooting in a camcorder, remember that the 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: old DV We're shooting in a camcorder. We're just shooting 133 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: anywhere anyhow. This is like running gun dot com, right, 134 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 3: So anyway, we got linked up with other artists. 135 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: We're shooting. 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: The budgets went from five hundred to one thousand to 137 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 3: three thousand to five thousand, and the rest is basically history, 138 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: you know. So it was it was an accident. It 139 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: was an accident. It was because of music. 140 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 7: So you were an artist that just you know, we're 141 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 7: going to do it ourselves and ended up creating a 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 7: business exactly, I think. And during that process one of 143 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 7: the brilliant things I heard is that when you started 144 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 7: making the videos, you didn't try to find the top people. 145 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: In the space. 146 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 7: You found college students higher yeah, yeah, which makes perfect 147 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 7: sense because those are the people university here, but those 148 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 7: are the people who actually are studying. Yeah, but they 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 7: don't have any money, that's right, and so that they 150 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 7: can hone their talents while getting paid at a load 151 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 7: right for you, of course, but they can grow with 152 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 7: you too. Absolutely, you like went into it with that 153 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 7: vision like I you know what, I'm going that route 154 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 7: Because you were studying film. 155 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: It was circumstantial, so obviously I was like, how can 156 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: I create this infrastructure? Because I remember at the time, I'm 157 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: not really in the film industry, so I don't know people, 158 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: you know, and even if you knocked at the doors 159 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: in those days, there wasn't many of us around. 160 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: The doors were mostly closed. 161 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: You know, you'd have to send an email or pigeon 162 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: or in those days like to try and get on set. 163 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: And if you do, we're lucky enough to get on set, 164 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: you're taking that rubbish, you know, like the trash right. 165 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: So translation, so like you know, it was a way 166 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: for me to kind of think off the cuff, you know, 167 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, cool, we're training to do this. 168 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: People are half competent. I can give them a platform 169 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: and experience. I get my own experience. And it was 170 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: just a match made in heaven. So I was basically 171 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: using university classmates as my film crew. 172 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: You know. 173 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: It just it worked. 174 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 6: So what point do you scale from the music videos 175 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 6: to like producing in the film world. 176 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: Well, in terms of making movies, yeah, I've only just 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: started making films, so music videos just grew from strength 178 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: to strength. At the time, we did the odd TV commercial, 179 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: but music videos was just my forte We were just 180 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,119 Speaker 3: known for making music videos. And you know, up until 181 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 3: last year we we shoot the biggest artists in the country. 182 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 7: So it went from the music videos, correct me if 183 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 7: I'm wrong. After that it was okay rather than going 184 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 7: on places and locations, let me find the studio. So 185 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 7: at that point you're looking for places to rent or 186 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 7: you're saying like, okay, you know what, this has causing 187 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 7: me too much to go on location, get permits and 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 7: all that. Let me find a space where we can 189 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 7: actually shoot content. 190 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: Well that fast forward in ten years. 191 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so before that I was getting when managed to 192 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: buy my own camera, was well part of my own 193 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: camera because if you remember the Red One. If you 194 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: guys know the Red one camera was a revolutionary at 195 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: the time when it came out, it was like magic, right, 196 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: and it was the first time that we could shoot 197 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: as close to thirty five mil film as possible. So 198 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: I would now manage to buy the camera body, which 199 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: I remember in pounds, was like seventeen thousand. 200 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: Just the body. 201 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: Then you add the rest of the modular equipment, so 202 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: we're talking about a tasty amount of money, you know, 203 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: to create your whole filming package. 204 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: So I was able to buy a bit at time. 205 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: So I was using profits from my music videos to 206 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: buy asset after asset, modular after modular and assemble the kit. 207 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: And the more kit I can buy, the less I 208 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 3: have to cross higher. To see what I mean, so 209 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: then eventually you retain your profit, so that once you 210 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: bought your equipment, your profit becomes profit and doesn't just 211 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: get reinvested into the assets. 212 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 6: Let's get into that because the supply chain. So all right, 213 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 6: so you have you have East London Studios that's your studio. 214 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: Yes, that was founded in twenty fourteen. 215 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 5: Okay. Then you have China House that's the camera company. 216 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: Cinney House House that's camera and lighting rental company. 217 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 5: And then Sinny Corps Optics to the. 218 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: Scope Optics, so that's the less manufacturing. 219 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: Factoring business, right, and then Mastermind. 220 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: Media that's the production company. 221 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 5: The production company ADP Films. 222 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: Services, So AB Film Services is the company that that is. 223 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: That's the limited company that Sydney House and East London 224 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: Studios trade under. 225 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: So Sydney House and the Eastern Studios of. 226 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: The trading names, but that they're owned by the holding 227 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: company of ad B Film Services. 228 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: So let's go through each one, which like, can we 229 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 6: go through in a in a time order? 230 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 5: Which one started for Mastermind? Okay? 231 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: So it was it was making content and it was 232 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: seeing these lines we call them lines in a budget, 233 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: will call them lines right when you break down itemized costs. 234 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: So going through these lines, after a few years, I'm like, Okay, 235 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: I'm spending this much on camera, this much on lights, 236 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: this much on crew, this much on location, whether it 237 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: be exterior permits, whether it be interior locations or film studio. 238 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: So then you start to realize you're looking at your 239 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: numbers and you're breaking on your costs. 240 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this year, I've spent. 241 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: Seventy eighty k grab thousand in camera, one hundred grand 242 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: in lighting, sixty thousand locations. And then you just start 243 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: thinking if I owned that, that and that every year 244 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: it becomes X. I mean, it's not rocket science. And 245 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: every producer at the time must see what I'm seeing 246 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 3: because we're all looking at our budgets retrospectively, thinking, look 247 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: at this money that's being spent. So for me, since 248 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: the two thousand and nine is when I bought ten, 249 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: is when I bought my red one. You know, automatically, 250 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: I'm now saving money on the higher. But then what 251 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: I didn't really expect. I did it so I could 252 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: just save more money and make more money. I'm getting 253 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: other filmmakers coming to me to hire my equipment. And 254 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: that's where you just like the accident of becoming a 255 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: filmmaker is now I'm accidentally becoming a facility provider because 256 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: I was just trying to buy kit for me so 257 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: I could retain profit. 258 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 7: So you had the asset, the camera was the assets 259 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 7: that you were trying to You took the profits for 260 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 7: the music video to keep upgrading the asset correct and 261 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 7: because of the counter you're produce them with the asset, 262 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 7: people said, can we rent from you? 263 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: Ye, which brings which brings in more money. 264 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: You got more money, right, So that leads to the 265 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 5: next company. 266 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: Which was Eastern and Studios Studios because I realized being 267 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: trying to push master my media forward, owning these facilities 268 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: would create good leverage, you know, and be very palatable 269 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 3: for record labels knowing that they could come and get 270 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: you know, what we call like a one stop shop, 271 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: if that makes sense, especially when budgets are tight, because 272 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: back then again budgets are you know, for an up 273 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: and coming artist, they'll give you five to ten and 274 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: if you're a known artist, it could be twenty. 275 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: So it's tight, super tight. 276 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, how can I still put in high 277 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: production value but not have to get torn apart by 278 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 3: the suppliers who are going to charge me crazy money 279 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: for equipment, you know. So it was a way. It 280 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: was kind of like a two prong attack. Just create 281 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: another business and increase the production value for master My Media. 282 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,239 Speaker 6: And then okay, so then in the East Loning Studios, 283 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 6: and then what comes after day So. 284 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 3: After eas other studios came Syney House because it's Sney House. 285 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: Ye sitahouse, because again Eastern Studios is just a commercial 286 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: field location, a big stage warehouse exactly exactly, yeah, you know, 287 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: but I fully converted with rigs, pre light setups, you know, 288 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: the white cover, blackout studio, all your green rooms up 289 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: on a mesni. It was it was kicked out of 290 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: a film studio. But again, just like I analyzed as 291 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: a producer, I'm now a film studio owner. I'm seeing 292 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: all the productions in the country because we were a 293 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: household studio. So all the big production companies are coming 294 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: in and I'm seeing what lights they're bringing in, I'm 295 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: seeing what cameras they're bringing in. I know what their 296 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: spends are. So now I'm like, okay, I want to 297 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: own that because you have as when you get a budget, 298 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: you have to spend I'm going to give you just 299 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: indicative numbers. Yeah, you have to spend two thousand pounds 300 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: a day on camera, you have to spend three thousand 301 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: pounds a day on lights, and every day, every other day, 302 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: these production companies are coming in and they're getting it 303 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: from all the all the other commercial suppliers, and I'm like, nah, 304 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: you know what's happening here. So just like with the 305 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: production company, I'm like, if I own the rental house, 306 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: not only do you pay me for the production for 307 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: the film for studio, you now pay me for equipment. 308 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 309 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,239 Speaker 2: Plus I realized that just certain. 310 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: Space wasn't going to make me millions, because you can 311 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: only charge a certain amount of money per day for 312 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: a film stage. But if you now have a camera 313 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: and light and list to add to the film studio, 314 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: now my costs, well, my expansion is triple. 315 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: It's a triple threat. 316 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: Then, and if somebody has a big, big job, or 317 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: they have a three or four day shoot, I'm making 318 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: not just three days studio, making three day studio, three 319 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: days camera, three days lights. Now the numbers are looking 320 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: a bit more interesting. 321 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 7: So the process of getting the studio itself was that 322 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 7: funded by the profits from the music videos and the 323 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 7: rentals together, how do you come up to. 324 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: That profit for music video? So by this time was flying. 325 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: I was doing really well in production wise, relatively speaking, Yeah, 326 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: not Hollywood levels, but relatively speaking, it was enough to 327 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: put a deposit down on a lease. I had a 328 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: couple of partners at the time, was a couple of us. 329 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: One was a quite well known dop Black dop, and 330 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: another guy was a guy that was kind of coming 331 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: out of his career, an older white guy coming out 332 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: of his career, lovely dude who had a rental house 333 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: and he was in filmmaking. So we collaborated on the 334 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: cost and ran the business, or I ran the business, 335 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: but you know, we came together on the studio. I 336 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: think the biggest conflict that we had retro expectively is 337 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: the fact that I saw the expansion and I wanted 338 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: to combine the rental house into the studio, but they 339 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: were quite focused on just the studio and not really 340 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: wanting to invest or see the vision for having a 341 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: rental house. And that's things become a bit conflicted, and 342 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: I subsequently brought them out one by one and remodeled, 343 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: restructured business, rebranded, Sinney House and then you know, in 344 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: that respect the rest is complete history. 345 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we haven't talked about that yet. When 346 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 7: your partner's come together, somebody is brought out obviously, you know, 347 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 7: you talk positively about them. 348 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: How was that process though? 349 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 7: When you saw the vision but you know they lacked it. 350 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 5: It was. 351 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: Awkward for more of a better word, it was awkward 352 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: because when you're you know, your friends yea peers at 353 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: the time, and now your business partners, you know, so 354 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: it becomes very difficult too. When you feel passionately about 355 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: something and knowing that you really want to implement a 356 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: change and people are not aligned with you, it becomes 357 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 3: very very difficult because you want to try to preserve 358 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: the business relationship and the friendship. You know you should 359 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: do at least And that was that was the most 360 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: challenging thing. 361 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: That that that the. 362 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: Acquisition, the purchase acquisition of the partners wasn't entirely smooth, 363 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: but it was it was for the best. 364 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure all agree. We all agreed now you know, 365 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: it's for the. 366 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: Best and and I'm not sure had we stayed as 367 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: partners that the business would have become what it is today. 368 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 6: Create creative differences, creative differences lins. So when did as 369 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: lens manufacturing business. 370 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 5: Coming to play? 371 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: That came in again, not so much an accident, but 372 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: more opportunistic. So I used to as a hobby rehouse 373 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 3: obviously because I'm in the film innistry, so I understand equipment. 374 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: I used to rehouse old stills lenses. So rehousing is 375 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: a term used to refurbish, well not quite, kind of 376 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: re manufacture. So imagine a stills A stills lens is 377 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: like you know, old vintage still lenses are old. They 378 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: have different you know, barrels, they just look completely different. 379 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: But the glass is the only thing that you keep 380 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: the actual optics right. So they strip it down completely 381 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: and rebuild a whole new lens. So you know, when 382 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: you see new film film lenses, now, that's what a 383 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: new lens looks like. But back in the day it 384 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: was it was just old and vintage, and it was 385 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: not compatible to put into new cameras. 386 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: It's a major, major process. 387 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: It's rebuilt from scratch almost, So I was rehousing. I 388 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: bought a set for myself again to add to my 389 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: value chain, to add to my production equipment base, and 390 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: had people saying to me and these lenses are sick. 391 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: What'd you get in froum? Can I buy some? And 392 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: at the time there's a two year waiting list. 393 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 7: Right, Everyone has an opinion when it comes to the 394 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 7: foods we eat. 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Don't wait, don't hesitate, get over there now. 423 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: So and I used the best rehousing company in the 424 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: world at the time, notably the best rehousing company in 425 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: the world, who were based in Leicester over here in England, 426 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: and I ended up selling the set that I kept 427 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: for myself because I I doubled that. So I think 428 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: I purchased a set. Purchasing the actual lens glass and 429 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: remanufacturing cost me twenty five thousand. I resold it for 430 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: like forty seven forty eight fifty pounds, right, and I'm like, hey. 431 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: That's a lot of dough. 432 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 5: Okay. 433 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: So then I did a bit of research, realized what 434 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: people were shooting with, went spoke to some rental companies 435 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: and they said, you know, we all like this particular lens. 436 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: And I went and stockpiled at the time, five six 437 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: seven sets of lenses. So I went onto eBay, I 438 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: went onto private dealers. I went just found that scoured 439 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: the internet to get all this glass and hoard it 440 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: put in a back order because it was a two 441 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: year waiting list. So I ordered them one by one sequentially, 442 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: I pre sold every set of lenses, and I think 443 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: at the end, I think a few years down the line, 444 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 3: I think I turned over about a million pounds, right, 445 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: And this is just as a hobby. It's just for banter, 446 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: literally in the background. 447 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh okay, cool. 448 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: And I left it for a bit because the glass 449 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 3: became expired because vintage lens lenses, the glass runs out 450 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: because it's not made anymore. 451 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: And yeah, that was basically that. 452 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: And then when I revisited another lens that it was 453 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: more available, I sat down with the manufacturers, the rehousing specialists, 454 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: and said, guys, I think I want to do this 455 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: for real now, And they were like, if I can 456 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: do that as a hobby and make a million quid, 457 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: what happens if I do it seriously? So everybody was 458 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: all is they called a big meat in big round table, 459 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: all the corporates, all of the private equity guys. I 460 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: sat them down, I gave them my idea and said 461 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: I need you to be my exclusive manufacturer, and here 462 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: we are. And that that was the major turning point 463 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: for me, was that capital enabled me to make serious moves. 464 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 5: So they made an investment in no, no, no, no, 465 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 5: I know. 466 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 3: The investment was then giving me an exclusivity arrangement where 467 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: they can only manufacture these lenses for me and my company. 468 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: That was the deal there to X everybody out in 469 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: the world. 470 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 7: Wow, how long is the process of actually making a lens. 471 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: It can take about three weeks to make a set 472 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: of lenses, maybe a week to make one lens. There 473 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: have to strip it down that they have all these 474 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: elements that have to be custom made, built, back, measure 475 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: the focus, engrave the lenses. 476 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: It's a big process and it's very very costly. 477 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 6: So you got the whole thing, so you actually you 478 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 6: have the production studio. Then you actually have the camera company, 479 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 6: you have the lens company. This is all happening step 480 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 6: by step and you just realizing well before you know, 481 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 6: you created your own ecosystem. Yes, or self funding yes, correct. 482 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 5: So the idea is. 483 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 6: The all money and strategy where you just you take 484 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 6: profit and just reinvest it. 485 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 5: Correct. Did you ever take any outside funding? 486 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 7: No? 487 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: No, not at the time. 488 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: Like now, you finance rental equipment, I think with asset finance, 489 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: So you asset finance your order of your lenses, because 490 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: when you're spending one hundred and forty thousand on a 491 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: set of lenses, like for example, city House owns a 492 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: set of cook anamorphic lenses across one hundred and forty 493 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: k hounts, like you're not spending that out of cash 494 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: because it doesn't make sense. Like now where I've become 495 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: more financially literate, I understand about leverage. 496 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 5: We'll talk about that the asset financing. 497 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: So when you get to a certain point and in 498 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: your accounts are sustainable, you use finance companies to buy 499 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: equipment and then you pay it lack a mortgage, but 500 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 3: it's a lot shorter term. 501 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: It's like three to five years. 502 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: You need big, healthy accounts in order to justify the 503 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: spend and the recoupability. 504 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: It's a lot that's years later. 505 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 5: It's a lot to buy assets for your business. 506 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: Exactly. 507 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 7: The interust rates higher because of the termine so short or. 508 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: Not the interest rates exactly. 509 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: The payments are expensive because you're consolidating your repayment, your 510 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: capital repayment. So with a mortgage, for example, you have 511 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 3: let's say even let's give an a lack for like example, 512 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty pounds apartment to one hundred and 513 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: forty thousand pounds set of lenses, or your apartment would 514 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: be over a twenty five or thirty year mortgage stam 515 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 3: whereas your lenses would be over four to five years. 516 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: So you consolidate your repayment, which makes your payments monthly 517 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 3: so much more expensive, which means that your your viability 518 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: financially proof has to be a lot higher to be 519 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: able to prove affordability. So it's quite complicated. It's not straightforward. 520 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, hundred and forty thousand. 521 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 7: So what type of clients rented at least like big 522 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 7: movie houses, Like who's the client profile and that that's 523 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 7: taking that type of investment for. 524 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: For fort finance. 525 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 5: Well for those type of lenses, right, you said. 526 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 3: Our clients would be any production companies that are that 527 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: are shooting serious productions. What Ozark was was a client 528 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: or the production team from Ozark bought a set of 529 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 3: my Sinny Scribe lenses. 530 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: So that's not through Senny House. They actually bought a set. 531 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: They liked the look of of that particular lens and 532 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: the rebuild quality of that particular brand, which was my brand, 533 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: and I got contacted by the d P. It said, look, 534 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: we've got season three starting in like six weeks. I 535 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 3: need just to fast track me a set. And I'm like, hey, 536 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: I watched that show. 537 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 5: Let's make it happen already. Yeah. 538 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 6: So at one point, all right, so we this is 539 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 6: all amazing, by the way, well what point do you so, 540 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 6: another player is the real estate point. You've actually become 541 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 6: a very you know, healthy real estate owner in England. 542 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 6: So where is this as far as you're doing all 543 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 6: this and you're getting all these businesses, At what point 544 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 6: do you say, Okay, now it's not actually just a 545 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 6: business place a real estate places. 546 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: Well sure, well, funny enough, I was quite inspired. I've 547 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 3: not told this story right. I was quite inspired by 548 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: real estate as a almost like a fallback. Obviously we 549 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: all have passive income, we all have appreciating assets, of course, 550 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 3: but City Scope for me was almost too good to 551 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: be true. I'm like, I've never made so much money 552 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: so easily in my whole legal you know. 553 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: So I'm like, this is crazy. 554 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: But because I understand that we're rehousing vintage glass. Like 555 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: I said, finger glass will run out, finger class runs out, 556 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: have no product. So I'm sitting there thinking, right, I've 557 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: got about five to seven years to maybe turn over 558 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: ten million or something whatever. 559 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: Right, cool, But what happened when it stops? 560 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: So I'm like, Okay, everything else is running and businesses 561 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: are doing well, but I'm just thinking of an exit. 562 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: So every single profit that was made from Sinior Scope, 563 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: and I mean I didn't even buy a toothbrush, bro Like, 564 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: every single piece of profit from that particular business purchased 565 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: real estate. 566 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 5: It was. 567 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: That was the absolute plan because I wanted to compound 568 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: the profits. So obviously, as you know about appreciation capital appreciation, 569 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, if I'm going to put in five million 570 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 3: of my own money in ten years on two percent, 571 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 3: that's going to be X to see what I mean. 572 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there thinking, so one day, senior scope 573 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: is going to stop because I'm going to run out 574 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: of glass. I need to be good, I mean good good. 575 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: So that was basically the reason why I entered the 576 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: property market so aggressively. 577 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: Because it was aggressive. 578 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: I went from a three hundred thousand pound portfolio to 579 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: fifteen million in. 580 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: Four and a half years. 581 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 5: You know, what type of properties were you looking at? 582 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: Initially just what I could afford. 583 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 3: So it was just like one bedroom apartments or like 584 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: a normal small, three bedroom terrace house, just you know, 585 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: family properties. It was just entry level, you know, because 586 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: that's all I could afford at the time. And then 587 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: I started understanding that the the advantages of buying blocks 588 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: of flats, you know, and from a maintenance standpoint, from 589 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: a just being practical, rather than having properties dotted all 590 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: around the country. I've got a block of twelve and 591 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: a block of ten. Now it makes the workflow and 592 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: the infrastructure a lot more simple to maintain. 593 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: So then I started buying blocks of flats. 594 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 5: So blocks. 595 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 6: For anybody in America doesn't know a flat is an apartment, 596 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 6: and so so you're buying like the whole block, correct, 597 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 6: And are you looking at areas like are you looking 598 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 6: at areas that's about to get gentified? Areas in the hood, 599 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 6: Like what's your strategy where it's like, all right, this 600 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 6: is a place where I want to invest in. 601 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: It was high yielding areas. So I have different strategies. 602 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: So for example, if I'm buying an already made block, 603 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to buy it probably out of London, not 604 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 3: too far. We're talking like forty five minutes to an 605 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: hour out of London, because that the yields are higher 606 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: in the suburbs. And yeah, so the appreciation is less, 607 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: but the yield is higher, right, that's the rental return, 608 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: whereas in London you have a lower yield and a 609 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: higher appreciation in value. 610 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: So you have to work it out like this. 611 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: You know. 612 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 3: One of the latest things I've done, I've just done 613 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: a Victorian a four story Victorian house conversion into a 614 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: block of apartments in London in Greenwich. 615 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: Actually, but I've done that to build. 616 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: I would never try to buy it because the value 617 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: has been taken already. 618 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 2: I am. 619 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: If I purchase already made block in like a conversion block, 620 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: I am the exit for the developer with. 621 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: Me, so I will do that myself. 622 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: So I was buying houses with planning permission, converting them 623 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: into apartments, remortgaging them. All the money comes back. We 624 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: go again, We go again, we go again. 625 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 7: Did you take that same approach that you with obviously 626 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 7: the production team where it was like all right, I 627 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 7: see the cameras, I know how much it costs. Aren't 628 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 7: that and slip it into your real estate portfolio was like, well, 629 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 7: this is how much it costs for construction. I need 630 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 7: to become a construction team. 631 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 5: Is that? 632 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 7: Did you take that approach to accidentally you did a 633 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 7: lot of accidents. 634 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: Have an official construction team. I've got about five guys, 635 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: five multi traders. So multi traders means guys that can 636 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 3: do plumbing, carpentry, electrics, plastering. Yeah, so I've got five 637 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: guys on the books for my property company, ADB Investment. 638 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: Because obviously, when you do day work and you plan 639 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: it properly, you're saving. Couldn't you can say forty percent 640 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: if you was to do price work. So price work 641 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: is builders come in scratch their head and they tell 642 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: your price for what the job is going to be. 643 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 3: But believe me, there's lots of markup in that profit 644 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: markup profit. 645 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they could be thirty forty fifty. 646 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 3: But if I'm control in the contractors or the sabby subcontractors, 647 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: then all that profit goes back to me because I'm 648 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: only paying the day rate. But I have to know 649 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: what I'm doing, so I had to become very savvy, 650 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: very quickly, so I could direct these builders to get 651 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: them to do the work that needed to be done 652 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: with me. 653 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 654 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 6: So yeah, So when you talk about mortgaging, that's kind 655 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 6: of like we call on the stage refinancing. Correct, So 656 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 6: you you buy, so it's very similar like you buy 657 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 6: a home, you're buying it through the mortgage yep. 658 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: Yep, sometimes or sometimes you buy cash sometimes. 659 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, So you get a home mortgage, any 660 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 6: special table mortgage, or you just do traditional. 661 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: Mortge, do traditional mortgages, which is a residential mortgage, or 662 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: a buyer to let mortgage, apply to work, buy to let. 663 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: So if you're buying it to rent out, you have 664 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: to declare that, which means you pay a higher interest 665 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: rate and you also have to pay a higher deposit 666 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 3: like investment. 667 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: It's an investment precisely. 668 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: So over here investment properties start a twenty five percent 669 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: deposit down down payment and a higher interest rate. 670 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the interest rate? 671 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: It varies. 672 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: It can vary from two percent to three and a 673 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: half percent if you go through traditional mortgages that's without 674 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: bridging and other stuff, which is another ball game. But 675 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: in terms of that, you're looking around two to three 676 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 3: and a half percent for an investment property. 677 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 7: Is it the same fifteen thirty year in terms of 678 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 7: length of. 679 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: The morget Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can ask for whatever 680 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: term you want up to thirty years, depending on your 681 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 3: age basically, But again, it doesn't really make a difference 682 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 3: on an interest only mortgage because you're only going to 683 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 3: pay the interest anyway, which means you'd have to have 684 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: another exit when you expire your mortgage, whereas of a 685 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: repayment mortgage capital repayment, you are bringing the debt down 686 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: so at the end of that term you will own 687 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: it outright if you don't refinance. 688 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 6: So your strategies fine blocks of flat in suburban areas 689 00:33:53,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 6: outside the city, purchase it, do some rehabbing, and then refinance. 690 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 6: What's the property has appreciated because once you do the 691 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 6: rehabs and it's going to go up with value, refinance, 692 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 6: take that money out, and then rinse and repeat and 693 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 6: then buy some more real estate. 694 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 3: That's one strategy. There's around four, but that's one strategy. 695 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: Another strategy is renewing leases. So when you buy an 696 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: apartment block with low lease, the lease that the property 697 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 3: is really really devalued because you have to have over here, 698 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 3: I think it's above seventy something years, seventy two, I 699 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: know seventy odd years needs to be a lease on 700 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: the apartment in order for it to be morkegable. If 701 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: it's under that amount of time a certain number, you 702 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: have to buy it in cash, which means you is devalued. 703 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 3: So what I would do is I'll go and buy 704 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: a flat in cash, go and speak to the freeholder, 705 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 3: put an extended lease on it. A standard lease here 706 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: is ninety nine years or be one two five, but 707 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 3: ninety nine years is standard for ninet nine year lease. Yeah, 708 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: that's if you buy lease hold property, not a freehold 709 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: property years. 710 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 5: So explain that what's a leasehole versus so. 711 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 3: A leasehold is basically you have a license to own 712 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: that house for a certain amount of time. 713 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: So every apartment will be a leasehold. 714 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 3: You cannot buy a freehold unless you own the freehold 715 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: of the block of the building. 716 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 6: Okay, So free freehold is when you own it free 717 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 6: and clear. 718 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 3: Well, you own the land. You own the land and 719 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: the entire dwelling. You don't just own that area that 720 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 3: the apartment with me, you can't buy a freehold if 721 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: you if you are buying an apartment, unless you have 722 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: a share of freehold, which is I don't see the 723 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: point because you can't do what you want. 724 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 5: Cop that's what I was thinking that. 725 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 6: Yes, a collective of people, Yes, yes, so okay, so 726 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 6: it's not worth much because you can't just buy a flat. 727 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 5: You have to buy the whole entire land, building everything. 728 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 5: Who me? 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Exclusions Applying 772 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 8: seelows dot com for more details. 773 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: It's that you only set off that area every so 774 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: when you have an apartment block, you have what's called 775 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 3: a title, right, so everybody has their own title for 776 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 3: each apartment, which means you buy that title. So you 777 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 3: buy that apartment block and that just means that that's 778 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: your property. You have to pay service charge to the freeholder. 779 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 3: So who's going to clean the communal areas? Who's going 780 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 3: to so out the rubbish area outside and all these 781 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 3: things maintenance? So the freeholder takes care of that, because 782 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: a person that owns an apartment can't take care of 783 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 3: all of the areas that service that block, which is 784 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 3: the reason why you only have a leasehold. 785 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 5: It sounds like collapse pretty much. Ninety nine years. 786 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: Ninety nine years. 787 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 3: So if a property is under seventy years, you can't 788 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 3: get a mortgage on it at all. You have to 789 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: buy it in cash, or it might be sixty seven years, 790 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 3: like I'm not too sure, but you have to buy 791 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 3: it in cash, or you have to get renew the lease. 792 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: Renewing the lease could cost you twenty five thousand pounds 793 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 3: to renew the lease back up to ninety nine years. 794 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: Then you can get a mortgage on it. 795 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 3: But then the value increases crazy, right, So I will 796 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 3: buy an apartment with a low lease. I'll go on 797 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 3: an auction. It says low lease apartment. So if some 798 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: things worth for it. I give an example right. I 799 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: bought a flat. This is my first low lease purchase 800 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: a few years ago, No quite a few years ago. 801 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 3: So the value of it was one hundred and forty thousand. 802 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 3: It's a one bedroom flat in Kent, one hundred and 803 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 3: forty thousand. I purchased it for sixty seven thousand on 804 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 3: an auction because it was rundown, so that brings the 805 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: value down. Already run down, I mean it was like distressed. Yeah, 806 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 3: and the lease was like fifty years. So I've spent 807 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: ten pounds on a renovation. I have spent twenty two 808 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: thousand on a ninety nine year lease extension. So now 809 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 3: I'm in for like eighty or eighty five thousand or so. 810 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 3: And then I re mortgaged a seventy five percent loan 811 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 3: to value on one hundred and forty thousand, right, So 812 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 3: then I got back every single penny got paid on top, 813 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 3: still had twenty five percent equity in the property, and 814 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 3: now I have a cash flow and asset. 815 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: Basically, it's a free flat and I'm paid to take it. 816 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 7: So when you you see the plate when you extended 817 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 7: the lease, obviously you say it was low lease. 818 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 5: It was fifty years. 819 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 7: Are you extending it just so it gets to the 820 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 7: ninety nine Like I'm going to extend it for forty 821 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 7: nine years, so you. 822 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 3: Have your your slitst it lets you know what the 823 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: cost will be. But I think I believe the closer 824 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 3: it is to ninety nine years, the cheaper it is, basically, 825 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: but you need to get above that threshold so you 826 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: can mortgage it. So I could not get a mortgage 827 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 3: until I was above that threshold. Right, And you speak 828 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 3: to before you purchase. I advise people speak to your 829 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 3: free speak to the freeholder first, work out your numbers. 830 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 3: Make sure you can get through to the freeholder, because 831 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 3: if you buy a property and you can't get through 832 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 3: to the freeholder, how. 833 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 2: Can you increase the lease? 834 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 3: Then you have to go to court and there's a 835 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 3: mandatory process that gets your lease extended automatically, but that 836 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: takes some time. So for anyone out there that's trying 837 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 3: to copy that particular strategy that I explained, make sure 838 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 3: you speak to your freeholder and work and make sure 839 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 3: they're contactable to negotiate your lease before purchase. 840 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: Then you got your exit quicker a whole. 841 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 5: Lot of game. What's the other one? 842 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 3: As you said, just buying down distressed properties, like for example, 843 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 3: the four million pound country estate I bought is it man? 844 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 2: That was like black Friday like, but. 845 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 5: I saw the acres. 846 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 6: I don't know exactly where it is, but I know obviously, 847 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 6: you know, the UK real estate is expensive, so I'm 848 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 6: like four million that seemed like it's kind of it 849 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 6: could be kind of cheap. 850 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: It was that the main mansion was very distressed, very outdated, 851 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: and it's currently undergoing a two million pound renovation and extension. 852 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm adding an east and west wing to it. I'm 853 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 3: adding rooftop terraces, so when you come out the bedrooms 854 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 3: the French stores go out onto rooftop terraces. The main 855 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 3: swim pool building is now being connected to the main 856 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 3: house and refurbing all the fourteen outbuildings, adding a second 857 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 3: private road, adding serious infrastructure, you know, and I'll probably 858 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 3: getting eight million pound valuation once I'm finished, and so 859 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: that that's going to be all done within a year. 860 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: In a year, I'm nine months in The. 861 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 6: Play with that is to have that as kind of 862 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 6: like your headquarters for content. 863 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 3: Correct, it will be a hospitality venue, an event space 864 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 3: yet events hospitality galas you know it will be be 865 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 3: an HQ for me, but also because of the vast 866 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 3: space it will be. 867 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: I want to do it, you know, be like a 868 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 2: filming village. 869 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: So on some of the fields and a lot of 870 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 3: the acres at the back, I want to be building 871 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 3: some big stages so you can actually do like East 872 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 3: London Studios times twenty, you know, all the big massive stages. 873 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: You've got backlot for days. 874 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 3: You know, you can shoot saving private Ryan to you know, 875 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 3: Game of fronts, you know, with the fields. 876 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 7: So on the two acres, we're talking about like lots 877 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 7: similar like we said with Tyler Perry where he has 878 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 7: the studios and there's a bunch of lots and MA 879 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 7: can shoot shows on it. But not only can you 880 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 7: shoot your own shows, but production companies to come in 881 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 7: and right the space. 882 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 3: This would be a commercial It would be a commercial 883 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:27,959 Speaker 3: location for sure. 884 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 7: So like companies like Viacom could say we want to 885 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 7: shoot the show. 886 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 3: On lat number twelve, we want to be there for 887 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 3: two years or whatever, you know, or you have like 888 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: a period drama TV, period drama. 889 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 2: That wants that it's a Georgian mansion. 890 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: So it's very like Palacey, you know, and they might 891 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 3: say right, we want to shoot a season of I 892 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 3: don't know, Bridgeton or something which you know for the 893 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 3: next twelve months. 894 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 2: Cool take that then, you know, So it will be that. 895 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: But obviously there's there's a lot of red type in 896 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 3: these areas. So it's a stage by stage process. For now, 897 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 3: it's renovate the property, the main property, because that's what 898 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: I do as a developer. I will get probably every 899 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 3: penny back, yeah, and it will be an in and 900 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 3: out for me and then then then I'll put the 901 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 3: rest of the money into making the rest of the 902 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 3: infrastructure around the lines. 903 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 2: But we're shooting there already, so things happen. 904 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 6: You say you get every penny out on a refile, absolutely, 905 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 6: what do you call the refile again? 906 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: Remortgage? 907 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 7: Remortgage that same thing, exactly the same thing when you 908 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,479 Speaker 7: said that obviously, course before by the time you finished, right, event, 909 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 7: it's going to be an eight million dollars evaluation. Is 910 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 7: that with the lots already built or no, no, no no, 911 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 7: But when the lots get built, Ye, that's not a thing. 912 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 7: We're talking maybe thirty four ye. 913 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just talking about what's there. 914 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, right now, what's what's what's that, like, what's the 915 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 7: cost to build an actual lot like we see them 916 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 7: We travel to La a bunch of times and we 917 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 7: see the size of massive amount of production that goes 918 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 7: into just one lot. How much would it like on average, 919 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 7: you think that that's going to cause to probably put 920 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 7: like eight lots. 921 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 3: It's it's miss millions. It's telephone numbers for sure. Yeah, it's. 922 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 5: Like that, you know as a fact. 923 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 6: So all right, now you have this vision, what's the 924 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 6: plan actually implc I'm assuming it's going. 925 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 5: Like a lot of staff. 926 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 6: You gotta have like security, you gotta have like this 927 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 6: a whole operation. 928 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 5: So you have that plan in place yet. 929 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 3: Already semi semi so as I said this in stages 930 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 3: because right now there's a huge mortgage on this estate 931 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 3: and the maintenance costs, I mean, little things you don't 932 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: think about because it's so green, it's in the country. 933 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 3: My gardening costs, man, are like for gardeners. Yeah, it's 934 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: just it's unprecedented. It thousands and thousands of pounds a 935 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 3: month just for my gardeners. And there's no value in that. 936 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm just keeping the place from overgrowing, you know. My 937 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 3: tree surgeon cutting down trees branches, bro. 938 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: It's just mad. 939 00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: That's right on. 940 00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 2: The money has gone. 941 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 3: It's like it's like, get this place up and running quick, 942 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 3: get that money back, get some primary projects in there. 943 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 3: Then while that's happening, I can be somewhere else in 944 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 3: some other acres, building the lots, you know, and that 945 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: stuff can be running over there, so it doesn't interfere. 946 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 7: You said, you said those things are right offs because 947 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 7: obviously it's not your primary residence. 948 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 5: No, it's a studio. So it's just a studio. But 949 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 5: I mean he has to mention part of it. 950 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 7: So all these things, that gardening, they're going to be 951 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 7: right offs on from the property. 952 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. But when I say right off, there's 953 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 3: two right off. There's tax right off. But I mean 954 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 3: right off as in the money is not an investment. 955 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 3: It's not recoupable. It's what I mean as a running cost. 956 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 3: But of course that will also be written off in 957 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: that sense. 958 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 959 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 5: So what made you pick that? How far is the 960 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 5: town from like here. 961 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 3: From that area it's about an hour and twenty minutes, 962 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 3: an hour and twenty five minutes. 963 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 2: It's not crazy. 964 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 5: What made you? 965 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 6: You just see something online where it's like, oh, that's 966 00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 6: a cheap property. 967 00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 5: Let me just get it. 968 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm always looking for where I can add 969 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 3: value and and and and recoup, you know, to re 970 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 3: exit the money. And that was an opportunity. But at 971 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 3: the same time, I had my eye on an expansion. 972 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like, Okay, I'm doing well, but how 973 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: do I do better in terms of the film industry. 974 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 3: And this is an opportunity, you know, for me to 975 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 3: go into also my next venture, which is actually finally 976 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 3: making feature films, you know, finally. 977 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 2: So I had my eyes. 978 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 3: Slightly from a property hat on and also a film 979 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 3: industry and they just married perfectly for this particular acquisition. 980 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 5: So you're going into a movie industry. 981 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 6: How has it been, Like, have you made relationships with 982 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 6: like people in the music in the movie business here 983 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 6: in London? 984 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 5: Is it like old boys club? Like? 985 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 6: How has that been as far as you're moving in 986 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 6: from the music side to the movies. 987 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 5: Have you been welcomed? Like how's your transition going? 988 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 2: I think. 989 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 3: With regards to the higher end of the film industry period, 990 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 3: and that when I say higher end, it's only we're 991 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 3: only really talking about commercials and movies, right, It's definitely 992 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 3: old old boys club. 993 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: It's controlled by a particular type, right. 994 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 5: Correct. 995 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,959 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not looking to be accepted, which 996 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 3: is the reason why I'm just doing me. I'm creating 997 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 3: my own opportunities because I'd be old and gray still 998 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 3: making tea if I was trying to get into that 999 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 3: side of things looking for an opportunity, you know. 1000 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 2: So it's tough. 1001 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 3: It's tough, and that's why you know, the movie that 1002 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 3: my first movie that I'm creating now is done funded 1003 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 3: by you know, myself and a partner of mine. So 1004 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 3: we're doing this ourselves. We're not looking for funding. That's 1005 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 3: always quite difficult, you know. 1006 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 7: I guess on the other end of it would be 1007 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 7: obviously you're trailblazing. So are you seeing especially young young 1008 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 7: people of color? Are they following in your footsteps? Are 1009 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 7: you mentoring them? Do you see them now becoming the 1010 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 7: place for becoming the place where they can actually develop 1011 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 7: their ideas and develop the production for some of the 1012 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 7: shows that they have. 1013 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 3: Sure? Well, I mean I'd like to hope that they're 1014 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 3: using me and my example to give them some faith 1015 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 3: that the doors that they're knocking on the aren't open 1016 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 3: and they're still away in. You know, a lot of 1017 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 3: people have made a lot of contact with me, especially 1018 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 3: with a lot of my recent publications that have gone 1019 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 3: on internationally. A lot of people are contacting me, if 1020 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 3: you know, young black males to be particularly to be 1021 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 3: as an example, and they're like, hey, man, like, I've 1022 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: received some messages like, dude, I was about to move 1023 00:49:49,560 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 3: into some some really uncanny activities, you know, because I 1024 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 3: like that, you know, because they're like, this is not 1025 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 3: working for me. And then they're like, but I've seen 1026 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 3: what you're doing, and I'm like, oh, like, you look 1027 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 3: like me. So I'm a stick at this and that 1028 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 3: just gives me so much joy, man Like, the amount 1029 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 3: of messages and people are cheering me on and likewise, 1030 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm just answering questions, man Like. I spend most of 1031 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 3: the time in my DMS, and that's it's It's almost 1032 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 3: painstaking because I can't get no work done because I'm 1033 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 3: constantly messaging people. But I want to do it because 1034 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 3: I feel I've put myself out here. I need so 1035 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 3: now if I'm going to be a beacon, I need 1036 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 3: to I need to keep it going. So I'm always 1037 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 3: asking people about what they're doing and giving them advice, 1038 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 3: and people are asking me every type of question you 1039 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 3: could imagine, you know, and I'm doing my best to 1040 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 3: answer and be encouraging. 1041 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 8: You know. 1042 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to feel like I'm I'm not accessible, 1043 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 3: do you see what I mean? There has to be 1044 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: a reason how that happens, within reason. But I'm trying 1045 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 3: to give advice and mentor within reason. 1046 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 2: At some stage I'll do. 1047 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 3: A mentor and program that needs to be coordinated properly, 1048 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 3: because there is a lot of people that reach out 1049 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 3: and it's overwhelming. So I'm in the process of constructing 1050 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 3: some type of mental and program that might probably kick 1051 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 3: off at the end of the year. It needs to 1052 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 3: be a proper program. But for now, man, people hit 1053 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 3: me up with my dms. I'm always there to give advice, 1054 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,439 Speaker 3: to give opportunities if I can. Obviously, bearing in mind, 1055 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 3: our industry in the film is quite skilled sector, so 1056 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 3: you have to actually know what you're doing unless you 1057 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 3: want to come and be a runner, and not everybody 1058 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 3: wants to do that, you know. I still think it's 1059 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 3: a good idea to do it, but some people, you know, 1060 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,879 Speaker 3: egos pride, they're not on it, so not as many 1061 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 3: people are coming through my doors as I would have hoped, 1062 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 3: you know. 1063 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 2: So it's one of those things. 1064 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 6: So all right, you learned a lot on the fly, 1065 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 6: I'm assuming as far as you know on the music side, 1066 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 6: videos and then you know, having the cameras and then 1067 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 6: the real estate. 1068 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 5: Is this all self taught or did you have a 1069 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 5: mentor how did you learn? 1070 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 2: I didn't have a mental so you just figured it. 1071 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 5: Out as you as you go. I figured out, like 1072 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 5: this is a good idea. Let me just dive in 1073 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 5: to learn as much as I pass a. 1074 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: Lot of it as instincts. 1075 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 3: I would say, a lot of people ask me and 1076 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 3: why you like, how did you become this person? How 1077 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 3: did you achieve so much? Your one human one guy, 1078 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 3: a black guy. I just called it out in a 1079 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 3: country that isn't designed for us to elevate. That's the facts. 1080 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 3: Let's just call a spade a spade, right, But what 1081 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 3: I think separates me is consistency. Everybody has a good day. 1082 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 3: I say, let's say figuratively, right, a good day in 1083 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 3: the office. Everybody is on form. They wake up one 1084 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 3: day and they have a good day where they're motivated, 1085 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 3: they're buzzy, and they're on it. They're constructive, but not 1086 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,479 Speaker 3: many people can sustain that, and that's the difference. Yeah, 1087 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 3: it's for me to do what I do is not 1088 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 3: sure some people, it's really painful for them. 1089 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 2: Dude, this is just wired into my head. 1090 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 3: So like I have to stop myself from working and 1091 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 3: thinking and strategizing and take time away, you know, as 1092 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 3: opposed to thinking, oh I need to do this, I 1093 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 3: need to I need to be here, I need to 1094 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,720 Speaker 3: work out this. Still, I got to work on that. 1095 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,760 Speaker 3: That's not like that for me. It's just that water, 1096 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 3: do you see what I mean? So I have an 1097 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 3: advantage at the fact that I'm not working at trying 1098 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 3: to be consistent. It's just absolutely natural. And I think 1099 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 3: that's just the only difference. I'm not I made a 1100 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 3: flesh blood. I'm not Einstein. My IQ is not crazy. 1101 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 3: I'm a bit sharp. Yeah, I have great instincts, but 1102 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm just like anybody else. But the consistency is the 1103 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 3: only difference that separates me most people. 1104 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 6: People ask me all the time, like what's the what's 1105 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 6: the number one thing I could do? And I say, 1106 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 6: for us, originality in consistency, originality in consistency, that's the 1107 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 6: two biggest pillars that I always say all the time, like, 1108 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,240 Speaker 6: you have to be originally you have to be creative, 1109 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 6: but you have to be consistent. In Consistency is the 1110 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 6: probably the most underrated trait in business. People don't understand 1111 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 6: how difficult it is to consistent, like just to do 1112 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 6: one thing every single day for five years. 1113 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 5: It's not easy. It's not easy. You said that. 1114 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 7: Obviously you're in the country that is not meant to 1115 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,240 Speaker 7: have black males elevated or black people, black people period 1116 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 7: like in general. Right, So I'm wondering when you're making 1117 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 7: films and you're making who is the audience? Right, are 1118 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 7: we specifically looking for black men and women or are 1119 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 7: we trying to get an international feel to it? Because 1120 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 7: there's got to be a balance between, you know, making 1121 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 7: it as a worldwide piece and trying to have authentic London, 1122 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 7: England feel to it. 1123 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 5: Right, So how do you do that? 1124 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 3: I can answer that question quite simply. I'm not trying 1125 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 3: to make black films. I'm trying to make good films. 1126 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 5: Right. 1127 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 3: However, Well, I will champion and I'd say this straight 1128 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 3: on camera. I will make sure that we have black 1129 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 3: cost representation, black crew representation, and I don't close the 1130 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 3: doors on certain people that didn't know what open. 1131 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's. 1132 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 3: That's the difference, you know, That's what I would do 1133 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 3: because and definitely international films for sure. I'm not trying 1134 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 3: to pigeon hole or make something London centric at all. 1135 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,240 Speaker 3: I want an international movies moving forward that are good movies. 1136 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 3: But I'm going to make sure that the doors that 1137 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 3: are closed on our people. And there's a lot of them, 1138 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 3: and I've been one of those guys. I was just 1139 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 3: I was just hard enough to kick through the door. 1140 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 3: A lot of people aren't built that way, and they 1141 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 3: just they just become depressed, or they lower their self esteem, 1142 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 3: or they keep us doing these little baby projects and 1143 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 3: keep us busy, you know, like worker bees, which is 1144 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 3: not not it's not cool. So I'm just trying to 1145 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 3: make sure that I can have that through my platform. 1146 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 3: I can say, right, okay, let me give this black 1147 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 3: female lead the cast because because she's the best person 1148 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 3: for the job. Let me give this black gaffer or 1149 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 3: this black art director. Like That's something that we will 1150 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 3: do moving forward to just help be another avenue for 1151 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 3: these people to have their platform, for them to shine, 1152 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 3: get paid, continue their career evolve. 1153 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 7: I mean there's certain shows that we watched growing up. 1154 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 7: I mean they're global, So I'm wondering, like what were 1155 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:16,399 Speaker 7: those types of shows or maybe movies that inspired you coming? Uh? 1156 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 3: You know, I like all types of films, you know, 1157 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 3: like I'm not I'm not really into like romantic comedies, 1158 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 3: like like action films. If you talk about what I 1159 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 3: watched growing up, it's not really relevant to this. But 1160 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 3: remember those old showering movies where the dubbing the voice 1161 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 3: was crazy. 1162 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like man, I. 1163 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 3: Just love that. But that's what we're talking when I was 1164 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 3: a kid, you know, and obviously with all the old 1165 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 3: Hollywood films that my eighties baby. 1166 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 2: So I think his perf is your birthday, right? 1167 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1168 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 2: I was on twenty seconds too. Yeah yeah man, okay. 1169 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 7: Happy free, happy pree birthday. 1170 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah man, it's the prices couch. 1171 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 6: So so all right, how do you see like what's 1172 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 6: your tenure? Player, Like, how do you see yourself in 1173 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 6: five ten years? Like what would you like to accomplish 1174 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 6: and how would you like to scale up? 1175 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 2: Good question? Good question. 1176 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 3: I would just say more man, more like that's just 1177 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 3: been the mindset since the first property, the first company 1178 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 3: you know more, but healthy growth and just being inclusive 1179 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 3: and making sure that I understand that. I feel like 1180 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 3: I have a responsibility now to help everybody, you know, 1181 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 3: come up and help help people avoid mistakes that I 1182 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 3: had to make because remember I didn't have a mentor, 1183 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 3: so I made a lot of. 1184 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 2: Mistakes my life. 1185 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 3: It's not all been smooth, like yeah, I'm at the 1186 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 3: top of a mountain smiling and waving, But it weren't 1187 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 3: just like that. There was this right and that's something 1188 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 3: that I don't talk about and one one day I 1189 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 3: will probably go into more detail about what that was. 1190 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 2: But it's been up and down, man. So it's like, 1191 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 2: I want. 1192 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 3: To be a person and advocate for people that are 1193 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 3: struggling to achieve their goals, be a platform that people 1194 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 3: can learn from, and be inclusive. In terms of the 1195 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 3: film industry, I'd like to help a lot more effinnent 1196 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 3: minorities in not having to go through a lot of 1197 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 3: the things I went through. You know, I had to 1198 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 3: do it myself, and we shouldn't have to be in 1199 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 3: an industry where the only way for you to get 1200 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 3: an opportunity is for you to do it yourself, like 1201 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 3: you should be in an industry that is a bit 1202 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 3: more of a fair playing field where you can get 1203 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 3: an opportunity because you're great, not because you fit in 1204 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 3: or you look right to understand. 1205 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 2: So I want to try to change that. 1206 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 3: In terms of property, man, I've got a goal, you know, 1207 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 3: I want to get to one hundred million portfolio. 1208 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 2: That's my number in my head. 1209 00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 6: So with the real estate, going back to real estate 1210 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 6: is a scaling model to get bigger like buildings. 1211 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 3: Next absolutely, yeah, I'm I complete on a deal in 1212 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 3: April for a ground zero project. So from complete scratch 1213 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 3: knocking down an old warehouse, I'm building a set of 1214 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 3: luxury apartments. 1215 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 2: So it will probably it would just be more more 1216 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 2: of that. 1217 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 5: You know where you're gonna do that? 1218 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 2: Essex as well, but a bit closer to London. 1219 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 6: Okay, closer to London and help how many apartments twenty twenty? 1220 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? Okay, we're you gonna name the building? Probly? What 1221 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,439 Speaker 5: are you gonna name the building? 1222 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 2: Probably after one of my daughters? 1223 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 5: Okay, we'll talk. 1224 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's another another whatever you know DJ Envy the 1225 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 6: breakfast club. 1226 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, not personally, but yeah, because yea, So he's in 1227 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 3: real estate heavy and his partner Caesar, So they developed 1228 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 3: like a big project and that he named he named 1229 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 3: it that. 1230 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 2: Wow, it's amazing, man, that's some stafts. 1231 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:52,439 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1232 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 6: So on the on the developmental side for real estate, 1233 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 6: what's the process for that out here? Is it like 1234 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 6: a little bit harder or is it kind of similar 1235 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 6: to how well you've had only know how it is 1236 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 6: in the States, But like, yeah, what's the what's the 1237 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 6: process that actually developed apartment building from scratch? 1238 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 3: What the good thing is regarding regarding qualifying for property? 1239 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 3: The qualification has no skin tone, right, that's the good news. 1240 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 3: Your accounts or your accounts, that's what anybody cares about. 1241 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 2: What's your P and L is saying? What's your balance sheet's saying? 1242 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 3: And that's basically that, you know, in terms of being 1243 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 3: real estate, anybody can do real estate, but unfortunately you 1244 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 3: kind of need capital if you want to be doing development, 1245 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 3: and you will not get finance unless you have an 1246 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 3: element of money anyway, or you have businesses where your 1247 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 3: accounts can cash flow. What's called stress testing, you know, 1248 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 3: to make sure that if no revenue is generating that property, 1249 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 3: can you maintain it? 1250 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Can you maintain the service? 1251 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 3: The debt level so it is not the sort of 1252 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 3: thing you can do from stage one, you know. But 1253 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 3: anybody that's just getting into the game, you know, twenty 1254 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 3: thirty forty grand, you can start small and flip. You 1255 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 3: won't be able to remortgage refinance on that type of 1256 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 3: deal and get your money back because there's not enough 1257 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 3: money in it to get back. But you can still 1258 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 3: do flips. Make a ten or twelve or fifteen people. 1259 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 3: You could do that. 1260 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 6: You know, what are some good areas to that you 1261 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 6: can invest in. 1262 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 5: The greater London area? And I know London is probably saturated. 1263 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 3: Is I think any area is a good area because 1264 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 3: it's what you pay for the property. Right If I 1265 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 3: if I've got a twenty million pounds three story property 1266 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 3: in Hyde Park, but I can buy it for seventeen 1267 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 3: million and it's going to cost me a million to refurb, 1268 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 3: then I'm gonna buy it, refurb it, flip it. I 1269 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 3: can't remortgage that because I'm not what I can, but 1270 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 3: I'm not going to get my money back. I'll just 1271 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 3: flip that and make a two mil you know. So 1272 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 3: that's how I would do that. What I would say 1273 01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 3: is in terms of areas to be more technical areas 1274 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 3: that are on the up in terms of the capital 1275 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 3: growth potential. Most of the areas in London are done already. 1276 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 3: Edmonton is in North London. Is I've got property there 1277 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 3: that's a very very good location. Because if you've got 1278 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 3: an area that's really really cheap, but the area is 1279 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 3: right next to it it's a lot more expensive, then 1280 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 3: you have a thing in propit called the ripple effect 1281 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 3: and it's just a matter of years. And this is 1282 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 3: without the regeneration process as well. Regeneration potential. When I 1283 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 3: say that, I mean where the local borough council say 1284 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 3: we're going to put in fifty million regeneration into this area. 1285 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 3: Take that to one side, because that's another way you 1286 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 3: can find out what areas have regeneration. Good area to buy, 1287 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 3: but just from the ripple effect to loane like Tottenham, 1288 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 3: for example, used to be pretty run down, you know, 1289 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,919 Speaker 3: it was known like Brixton, but now Tottenham is kind 1290 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 3: of being gentrified as well. 1291 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 2: They're building apartments. 1292 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 3: Everywhere that they can fit space, and the prices are gone. 1293 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 3: For example, a three bedroom house in Tottenham ten years 1294 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 3: ago would have cost you maybe two hundred grand two 1295 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 3: hundred thousand pounds two fifty maybe ten years ago, right, 1296 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 3: maybe three hundred that push. Now you're looking at six 1297 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 3: hundred and six fifty. That's crazy return, you know, and 1298 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Edmonton is probably five years away from that. So I'm 1299 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 3: buying more in that area because it's the ripple. You 1300 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 3: had the hybrid is in ten, then you had Tottenham 1301 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 3: that was the ripple, and then next is Edmonton with me. 1302 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,439 Speaker 3: Then after that it's end Field and it goes out. 1303 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 3: But there's not many areas left. But I would say 1304 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 3: what you should do again a bit of advice to people. 1305 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 3: There's a website called right Move that is our national website. 1306 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 3: For a property. You want to see a property value, 1307 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 3: go to right Move, Great More, right Move Yeah, and 1308 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 3: then you go onto that and it tells you all 1309 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 3: the properties that are for sale in the country. It's 1310 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 3: all it has to be on our website and typing bracket, 1311 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 3: say for example three hundred thousand, three bedroom house in 1312 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 3: and then put your parameter as London. See what's for 1313 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 3: self look at those areas. If it's only a couple 1314 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 3: of properties, that means that you know, that's your barrier 1315 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 3: to entry for that price. So you want to get 1316 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,479 Speaker 3: your the property for us as low to that number 1317 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 3: as possible. So in two, three, four, five years, that 1318 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 3: three hundred ground property is going to be worth three fifty. 1319 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 3: Sell the property, make your fifty thousand profit, get your 1320 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 3: of a deposit back. Now you're in the game. It's 1321 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 3: really it's not that hard. Obviously there's levels to this, 1322 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 3: but it's not that hard. But even the entry level, 1323 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 3: it's not difficult. 1324 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 7: Yes, So I mean that's extensive in the real estate 1325 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 7: side for a goal. I want to talk about the 1326 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 7: production side, like what's the goal because obviously films is 1327 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 7: something that you're doing now, but as you make bigger films, 1328 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 7: the budgets get bigger. Absolutely, so you know, I want 1329 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 7: to talk about how we're going to finance that, but 1330 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 7: also maybe from getting shows that are put on TV, 1331 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 7: sitcoms and licensing deals and syndication, like all these things 1332 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 7: in the plans for you. 1333 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1334 01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 5: So. 1335 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 3: I'm currently making my first movie at the moment, which 1336 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 3: is a psychological thriller called Forgive Me. 1337 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 5: Father, Give Me Father, Give Me Father. Psychological thriller. 1338 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like I would say, it's a 1339 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 3: psychological thriller slash slash slash movie. So like so like 1340 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 3: I would. 1341 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 2: Say it's like Saw Meat seven. 1342 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 3: That's a film twist, right, that's a psychological right. 1343 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1344 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously like not trying to so it's like 1345 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 3: dark trying. 1346 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 2: To set the bar. 1347 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a dark. 1348 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 2: Super dark. 1349 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1350 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 3: So that's currently in production as we speak. 1351 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 2: We're on set. 1352 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 3: We're in week three of a four week schedule and 1353 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 3: we go to post next month or probably the end 1354 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 3: of beginning of April. And that's my first film, you know, 1355 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 3: and part of that movie has been shot at my 1356 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 3: new my New Country location, you know, so that was 1357 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 3: that's quite special because I've christened that location as for 1358 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 3: the first movie, one of many that will be shot 1359 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 3: in that in that area. 1360 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,919 Speaker 2: The location. My movie is the first one. 1361 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 5: Bro. 1362 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 3: So like that, that's that's quite special in a sentimental level, 1363 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 3: you know, that's quite special. 1364 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 6: So as far as the production, are you looking for, 1365 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 6: like what's the process? 1366 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 5: Somebody write a script, correct, then they bring it to you. 1367 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I would purchased the script. 1368 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 5: You buy the script, buy the script. 1369 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 2: So we can own the I P. 1370 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 5: You own the I P. Absolutely, you have to own 1371 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 5: I P. For me. 1372 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: For my MODEA, I didn't do with ownership. 1373 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 6: So you buy it and then you hire a director correct, 1374 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 6: and then of course the actors or whatever. 1375 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 3: You just put the vision, so I'll exec produce slash 1376 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 3: produce the movie. 1377 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 5: So I overseived the situation absolutely. 1378 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 6: You're not like hands only directing it. You don't tell, 1379 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 6: you don't tell direct, You let the director do his thing. 1380 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 5: Of course, you just kind of give him something. Yeah. 1381 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, But but what I would do from kind of overseeing 1382 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 3: I is look at that budget, make sure it's realistic. 1383 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 3: So I use my film experience. Is this realistic? What 1384 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 3: can I bring to the table, What value can I add? 1385 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 3: What lines can I bring in? And just make sure 1386 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 3: everybody is happy from from afar and know that our 1387 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 3: exit is in place? 1388 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 2: You know, so just just what executive producers they really. 1389 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 5: You have it? This is dope. We definitely got to 1390 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 5: do something there. 1391 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, I know, two guys, if you ever need. 1392 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 6: That helps, this is this is a good one man. 1393 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 5: So what would you say? Parting words like what would 1394 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 5: you what would you say to the to the. 1395 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 6: Young boy that's in East London or Brixton that has 1396 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 6: an idea, has a vision, but you still trying to 1397 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 6: put it together. 1398 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 5: Hasn't really figured it out yet, Like. 1399 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 6: What what would your advice be be to them based 1400 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 6: on the stuff that the ups and downs, trials and 1401 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 6: should that you want to. 1402 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 3: I would say keep experimenting because just because you don't 1403 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 3: know what you want to do isn't a bad thing 1404 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 3: because sometimes when you know what you don't want to do, 1405 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 3: that's also progress you with me, So you can be 1406 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 3: doing something and thinking, now, this wasn't for me, that 1407 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 3: was terrible. 1408 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what I want to do. 1409 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 3: Well, okay, you don't know what you want to do, 1410 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 3: but you now you know you don't want to do that, 1411 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 3: so you're closer to finding what you do want to do. 1412 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,960 Speaker 3: So just staying with it and having faith and knowing 1413 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 3: that you know, if you put out good energy nine 1414 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 3: times out of ten, yeah, good things will happen. Just 1415 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 3: be humble, be hard working, and have integrity, you know, 1416 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 3: because losing yourself is something that can happen very easily 1417 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,759 Speaker 3: when you're chasing money or you know, or your dreams. 1418 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,879 Speaker 3: And just staying true to yourself and believing in yourself 1419 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 3: because people will not always open the door for you, 1420 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 3: So it doesn't mean that you have no value. 1421 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so believe in yourself. That's where the value comes from. 1422 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this too before we leave. We 1423 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 6: see a lot of UK actors Black UK actors. Of 1424 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 6: course it is the probably the most famous one, but 1425 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,799 Speaker 6: there's a lot of them that have going to America 1426 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,680 Speaker 6: become like really big stars in America in Hollywood. Do 1427 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 6: you have your eyes set on Hollywood at all? Like 1428 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 6: do you ever see yourself actually going to America and 1429 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 6: being in the Hollywood world? 1430 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 3: Not particularly because it's different for actors. I'm behind the screen. 1431 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 3: I'm providing huge facilities, so a lot of America movies 1432 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 3: are shot here. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm 1433 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 3: wenting for Hollywood to come to me. 1434 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 7: Like I like that, I'm not going to do it. 1435 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 5: I like check your neighbor and Tyler as well. 1436 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 6: I link would you would you ever be? I know 1437 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 6: you said you you your models own everything. But are 1438 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 6: you open to partnerships? 1439 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 3: Absolutely if the if the value add is there, if 1440 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 3: the partner adds value that I can't add, and it's 1441 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 3: it's a match made in heaven for sure, you know. 1442 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 2: So the right collaboration of course. 1443 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 7: So we can see like media takes London, media takes London. 1444 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 5: Maybe this is this is a good one man. 1445 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 6: I appreciate it. What would it will be your last words? 1446 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:14,480 Speaker 6: How can the people follow you against social media? Website, 1447 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 6: any new prot you talk about the movie, any other 1448 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 6: new projects that you have, anything that you want to 1449 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 6: make the people aware of. 1450 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 3: Listen man, Like as I said, we're open to all 1451 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,639 Speaker 3: all the companies that open to all. You can find 1452 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 3: Sydney House and Studios, master by Media Socials, we're there. 1453 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 3: We'll link up with that. People can follow me on Instagram. Really, 1454 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:35,600 Speaker 3: that's that's the best Instagram. Antoine Dixon Ballot, No, no, no, 1455 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 3: haypphen so Antoine Dixon Ballot. Just that's all one word 1456 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 3: or one word no happen. 1457 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 6: And and people if they want to like actually writ 1458 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 6: the facility. 1459 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 5: All the information is like on the website. 1460 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 2: Absolutely the website, everything's there. 1461 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,879 Speaker 3: We've got Syne hyphen House dot com for the rental company. 1462 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 3: We've got East London Studios or one word dot com 1463 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 3: uh for the film studio, and Sydney Scope Optics for 1464 01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 3: the lens manufacturing company. 1465 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 7: Troy housekeeping it them. Yeah, this won't be the last 1466 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 7: time we see each other. Sure, I want to thank 1467 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,679 Speaker 7: you again, I want to thank you. I'll take London 1468 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 7: family for the hospitality, Take London. It's been an amazing 1469 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 7: time here in London. So shout to y'all. Shout all 1470 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 7: the UK earn, Shout to all the earners world. Why 1471 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 7: we really appreciate y'all. Every time we go somewhere, it 1472 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 7: feels like home. So that's I know that has a 1473 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 7: lot to do with y'all. So shout to y'all. Shout 1474 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 7: everybody disappointed them, Shout out to the team. We got 1475 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 7: the team here in London with us, Mike obviously, and 1476 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 7: Jamal Yogi's here with us and b he's here behind 1477 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 7: the scenes shooting content for us. So shout to everybody 1478 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 7: that made this a special one. And shout out to 1479 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 7: my boys birthday yesterday. 1480 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,799 Speaker 5: Man, we went up again. This has been a legendary. 1481 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,599 Speaker 5: I don't think I've been out this much London. 1482 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,640 Speaker 6: London is definitely a party town once you can. Thank 1483 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,840 Speaker 6: you to Ashley actually making this about that and super Throw. 1484 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 6: I'm glad we got a chance to shoot content while 1485 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 6: we were out here because I think it's important for 1486 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 6: voices from all. 1487 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 5: Over the world to be heard. 1488 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 6: Because it's like we have a strong following in the UK, 1489 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 6: but we just don't want to just have American based 1490 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 6: content that they have to just listen to. We want 1491 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 6: to have you know, UK based content as well, in 1492 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,600 Speaker 6: the same way we go to Nigeria or Jamaica. 1493 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 5: Or different parts of the world. 1494 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 6: So that's why every time we travel we always try 1495 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 6: to you know, connect and just you know, the power 1496 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 6: relationships is extremely important. I feel like we just have 1497 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 6: to do more course continental collaboration and you know, we 1498 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,720 Speaker 6: have a lot more similarities than we have differences. But like, 1499 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,679 Speaker 6: you know, hopefully this would be an education for people 1500 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 6: in America as well that might not be fully educated 1501 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,760 Speaker 6: or fully you know, aware of what's going on in 1502 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 6: the UK. 1503 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 5: But everybody is like. 1504 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, they think everybody drink your tea and crumpets and 1505 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 6: you know, it's just it's just comes from a lack 1506 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 6: of education. 1507 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 5: Like no. 1508 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 6: So so now hopefully you know they can start to 1509 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 6: see like, okay, yeah, just like me, just a little 1510 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 6: different accent. 1511 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, they's a cute instead of line. 1512 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 8: No. 1513 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 6: But I appreciate it, brother man. 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