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Speaker 1: It's so much better? And everyone at home or appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: we have. Can we call her movie star Royalty?

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think it's you know, yeah, in

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Speaker 2: in a nepo obvious kind of way.

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Speaker 1: I would, I would say so, this interview.

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Speaker 2: Would be very nepo obvious.

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Speaker 1: Drummer roll please the awesome actress and singer Rumor Willis.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Well again, I'm going to start. I'm jumping

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Speaker 2: in our last kind of conversation, and like a few

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Speaker 2: just totally unprepared for it, like you don't know them,

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Speaker 2: you don't know their work. Yep uh. And then again

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Speaker 2: in the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, you know, Rumor

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Speaker 2: my kids and I don't even know it, you know,

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Speaker 2: don't know. It was just funny that I had already

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Speaker 2: had a previous thirty five year ago kind of a

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Speaker 2: couple of encounters with Bruce, and when we started speaking

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Speaker 2: it's very interesting and relatable because me and my kids,

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Speaker 2: you know, my kids don't want to talk about their

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Speaker 2: hundred percent. And then I think just her sensibility art

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Speaker 1: Just I had an appreciation of you the father a

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Speaker 1: and just kind of this strong connection he had. But

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Speaker 2: Alec, Billy, and Daniel, I think all worked on some

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Speaker 2: my three older brothers. Yeah, I never hung worked with

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Speaker 3: I already worked with that, like Danny and Billy, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: In a done with great those bad lips.

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Speaker 4: It's so bad, it's good. It's sam guilty lasses unders, it's.

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Speaker 2: So bad, it's good. One bad So I was the

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Speaker 2: So one time my parents laid down this countlet if

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Speaker 5: See, I would never use it in that.

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Speaker 5: In fantasy, Oh okay, what actor.

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Speaker 2: Would you be playing? What role? In what movie? Oh?

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Speaker 5: You god, man, that's so cool.

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Speaker 5: I would definitely be a guy I think, right, well, amazing, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny because in my mind I'm thinking what

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that would like for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm cool, fair enough? Wow, Jack, right, but you gotta

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Speaker 5: But who else? I mean?

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Speaker 5: My dad? My dad's in death? Oh, Meryl Streep, Goldie Han.

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Speaker 2: Okay, stop. So you're picking Jack and Goldie and but

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Speaker 2: But it's a credit. It's a sign of your a

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you would have probably liked and loved a

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Speaker 2: But that's the point. So I'm going to reverse engineer.

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Speaker 5: This great Bill Murray love Bill.

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Speaker 2: Murray, pretty good actor. What's that one he did with

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Speaker 2: Coppola's Daughterslation, Yeah, that's that's great, celebrated picture.

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Speaker 2: I'm joking. Stripes is a very silly comedy, but it's brilliant.

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Speaker 5: But it's brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, He's people. There aren't movies like that anymore.

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Speaker 5: People don't make movies like that anymore. There's a certain

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Speaker 5: It's magical realism rom com and it just does not

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Speaker 2: The most magical realism I could spell, but I don't

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Speaker 5: So there was this era of romantic comedies that were

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Speaker 5: The algorithm for what makes a successful movie is not

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Speaker 5: I just it's inescapable well, and and for Jack now right.

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Speaker 5: Because my mom, Mom. I feel like everyone in my

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Speaker 2: So my first grandchild is my granddaughter Iris with my

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Speaker 2: But that's smirk is foretelling. Yeah, it's foretelling. My darling.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know if I should tell you that.

434
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: Oh, don't, don't tell me, So just tell me the story.

435
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: I can tell you.

436
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 5: That's because you'll know, you'll pop. You know, we'll let

437
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: the we'll let the listeners saluthe it out. So I

438
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 5: was originally cast. So there's two two girls in the movie, right.

439
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: One of them is kind of a more put together,

440
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 5: sane one and the other one is kind of kooky,

441
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 5: single white female ex girlfriend. I was originally cast as

442
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 5: the normal, sane one, but at the last minute, right

443
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 5: before we went to go shoot, the other girl who

444
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 5: had been cast dropped out. So this other girl was hired.

445
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 5: So we show up to shoot and this was this

446
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: is when I still drank because we were in Kentucky,

447
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 5: which obviously you know bourbon and that was my beverage

448
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 5: of choice, and was it really Yeah, whiskey neat.

449
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: I think that's Goldie Horns.

450
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: I went hard on the faint for a very short

451
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 5: window too.

452
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: I burned hard and fast.

453
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really short. It was like twenty seven.

454
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 5: I think I stopped and I think maybe started around

455
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 5: like twenty four. So got it done real quick. And

456
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: so we're on set and all of these different bourbon

457
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: companies have made me bottles because it was my birthday.

458
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 5: The second day of shooting, so I'm in this little

459
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 5: duplex staying with the other actor, and we have these

460
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 5: scenes that are ten twelve page scenes right in the car,

461
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 5: and so it's just kind of a wild shoot, a

462
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 5: bit chaotic, and you know, there's a couple of people

463
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 5: on set who are a little green in terms of

464
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: the crew. And I didn't really have time to figure

465
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: out my character because it switched and so all of

466
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 5: a sudden, I'm having to play the psychopath and I'm going, man,

467
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 5: I kind of stopped there.

468
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you were cast to play the calmer role. Yeah,

469
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: but the director and the people asked for you to

470
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: switch to the opposite role.

471
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: The opposite role.

472
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: How long before principal photography. I'm a couple of weeks,

473
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: so you had to recreate the character totally, you know,

474
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: I just wanted to clarify, Yeah, you're in. You joined

475
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: the car before.

476
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: Right, So so I have all these unopened bottles in

477
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 5: my room. And so the other person, the other girl

478
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 5: I'm shooting with, is you know, she's telling me these

479
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 5: crazy stories about her life and drugs she's taken and

480
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 5: blah blah blah, and I'm just going, Wow, what the

481
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 5: heck is going on? And we go to shoot one

482
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 5: day and I and I think we're coming home one

483
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 5: night and she's I think she'd been drinking on set

484
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: and had kind of gotten in cahoots with the writer

485
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: who I guess was giving her alcohol. Basically. I come

486
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 5: to find out towards the last week of shooting that

487
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: she's been drinking every single day on set. And we're

488
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: in a car and we don't have a fancy rig

489
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 5: that this car is.

490
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: On, so she's been driving the whole time. Yeah, so

491
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: it's either one driver, yeah, the two of us, the

492
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: calm one at least.

493
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, the common one. And so then one night after set,

494
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 5: and of course it's my natural tendency, you know, as

495
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: an alcoholic, to try and fix everyone. So I'm then

496
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: staying at night in this duplex trying to talk to

497
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 5: her about her problems and be kind of a big

498
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: sister and help her fix her life. So one day

499
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 5: I come back from set and my room has been

500
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: broken into and there's all of like the whiskey that

501
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 5: had been in my room is like been opened and yeah,

502
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 5: and I'm going, what is going on? So she had

503
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 5: broken into my room and taken all this whiskey. And

504
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: it was the same night that we were on set

505
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 5: and there was some weird moment where these guys are

506
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 5: supposed to like a scene where these guys are supposed

507
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 5: to jump us, and I pull a gun and she

508
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 5: she has some line where she goes, oh my god,

509
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 5: I was so scared. I almost peed myself. So at

510
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 5: the end of the night, she looks at the director

511
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 5: and she goes, I really want to pee. I'm just like, what, well,

512
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: what's going on? So the entire crew stands there as

513
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: our last the martini of the night. It's her just

514
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 5: standing there because she wanted to really pee herself, and

515
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: so the entire crew is literally going, what is going

516
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 5: on and we're all just standing there silent, and the

517
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: director puts a camera on her and we're just shooting

518
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 5: and it's not a gag, so you obviously can't see anything.

519
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 5: So it's completely invaluable to the movie anyway. And the

520
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: wardrobe girl told me later that she just left her

521
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: wardrobe on the floor. And I've never left a situation

522
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 5: where I called my agents after and I said, listen,

523
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: I don't care how much I need money, don't ever

524
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 5: ever let me do something like this again. Because we

525
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 5: were doing stunts. We're doing stunts, and it's the first

526
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 5: time I have to say that I've ever I've ever

527
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 5: not shown up. I said, listen, I've never done this before.

528
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 5: But I will not work tomorrow unless she was a

529
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 5: breathalyzer before we do suns because she has to punch

530
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 5: my face and it was it was a nightmare. I

531
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: don't know how.

532
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: Honors the request of an actor, So stop Super Air movie.

533
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: I want to tell you, but.

534
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: That was a famous person.

535
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if I would say that,

536
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: but you know enough.

537
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: Now. Do you think she and the writer were in cahoots?

538
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Were they friendly or was it just a drug induced.

539
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 5: I think she was being very manipulative and using the situation.

540
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: So that's your one movie.

541
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I have plenty, but that was the.

542
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: Most drunken pp driver, Right.

543
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: I feel like for a long time I was and

544
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: I did this to myself a little bit because I

545
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: had this short, dark hair and I were all black

546
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 5: and all these tattoos and all these piercings, and I

547
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 5: feel that me and kind of this industry, I kind

548
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: of put myself in this box. So the only jobs

549
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: I was getting were either I was a psychopath, a

550
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: drug addict, a lesbian, or someone who had had some

551
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: sort of deep emotional sexual trauma from either a boyfriend

552
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 5: or as a child. And it was all, you know,

553
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: no one would ever look at me and go, you

554
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: would be a fantastic in a nineteen forties period film

555
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 5: and be a great lounge singer, even though in my

556
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: mind I go, I could do that in a heartbeat, right.

557
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: And so I feel like for the first time, I

558
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: just got to do a Western for the first time,

559
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: which was one of the coolest experiences of my life.

560
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 5: Separately of just feeling like I was deeply carrying along

561
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 5: the lineage of Willis being a badass riding a horse

562
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 5: and you know, gunslinging. I feel like I had the

563
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 5: opportunity to show a side of myself that I haven't

564
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 5: ever been able to and it's the part of me

565
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 5: that I feel like that kid sometimes that I'm just saying,

566
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 5: if you, if you give me the opportunity and allow

567
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 5: me the space to rise to the occasion. I know

568
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: I can do a great job. And I know that

569
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 5: I can. I know I'm good enough at this to

570
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 5: be successful, but I haven't found a space or an

571
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 5: opportunity to be able to show what I can do.

572
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: Okay. So, like I was saying, you and I are

573
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: going to make a movie together in the future. Okay,

574
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: I gotta just circle back.

575
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 5: On that Jerry Maguire Parkers boomerang.

576
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: I got to throw the boomerang again. No, but here's like,

577
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: so I did a movie called Missus Parker and the

578
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: Vicious Circle with Jennifer Jason Leigh. I don't know if

579
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: you know that.

580
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's great.

581
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's Alan Rudolph. It's like this movie. I

582
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: auditioned four and they wrote a part for me in

583
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 2: it because there was no part. It was weird. It's

584
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: it's a long story and it was one of those

585
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: things where, wow, you know, I didn't play the role

586
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: I wanted. I played kind of almost myself, like a jock,

587
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: like at the badminton court that she seduces totally. But

588
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: I was in a great movie with an unbelievable cast,

589
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: and I just wanted to work with a one Rudolf.

590
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: But it's just so interesting that the industry, however, it cycles.

591
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: That You're sitting here kind of in a in a

592
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: posture of new beginnings totally, and I'm sitting here in

593
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: a posture of new beginnings, and we're both who we

594
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: are from the lineage we are. But isn't it interesting?

595
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: This is what we were talking about earlier, that isn't it

596
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: cool that if you want to express yourself as an

597
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: artist in film, there's still the ability to do that independently? Yeah,

598
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: and say what you want to.

599
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 5: Say A thousand percent. I mean, it's such a cycle, right,

600
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 5: I see it even in an interesting way. Say some

601
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 5: of the NEPO babies that are coming up. Now, look

602
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: at your daughter. She's wildly successful, is an incredibly smart

603
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 5: business woman and has created such an unbelievable, you know,

604
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 5: kind of like world and such success, right, and I feel,

605
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 5: and there's a couple other girls who are kind of

606
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: have come up, i would say, in the same kind

607
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 5: of peer group around her, and they're all wildly successful,

608
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of positive generally, a lot of

609
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 5: positive energy that goes towards them. And I think there's

610
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 5: these interesting cycles right where we're all nepo babies to

611
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 5: a certain extent, right, we all have this one threat

612
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: in common, but there's sometimes been different eras of it

613
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: where people are either and it switches, right. I've seen

614
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 5: people online there's you know, mode Appetah where people were

615
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 5: very in against this or very pro or even with Haley,

616
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 5: very and against us sometimes and very pro. And there's

617
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 5: these weird cycles even though nothing has changed. It's not

618
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 5: like our parents have changed. It's not like, yeah, it's

619
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 5: not like we're necessarily doing anything differently than we were doing,

620
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 5: you know then a couple months ago or a couple

621
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: of years ago. But the perception changes, so people's ability

622
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 5: to digest what are whatever it is about who they

623
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 5: think we are, or what we're trying to do or

624
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 5: how we've grown up, whatever it is, shifts and it

625
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: changes either the reception being positive or not an adaption.

626
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an adaption. So Haley cracks me up

627
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: because she's you know, she's kind of like a tiger Woods,

628
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, She's just wild when she focuses.

629
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: So I think, you know, I think there are people

630
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 5: like her that the level of drive I find actually

631
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 5: wildly enviable, because sometimes I feel like some I'm a

632
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 5: bit of a jack of all trades kind of but

633
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 5: master of none in certain ways that I get so

634
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 5: excited about doing everything that then the things I can't

635
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 5: do one because my energy is just so split and

636
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 5: I don't know, I just I have so much respect

637
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: for people who just.

638
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: Can do it, yeah, can get it done.

639
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's just a drive and a commitment and

640
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 5: also doing it with integrity.

641
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: Can we talk about your mom for secon.

642
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: She's having a moment.

643
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: You would have talked about somebody who gets it done.

644
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 5: It's true.

645
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's but that's the same kind of algorithm.

646
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 5: It's totally I mean, if I ever had to bury

647
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 5: a body, she would one hundred percent me the first

648
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: person I could call.

649
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: Okay, love that. So your one bad movie is the

650
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: movie we can't name, but it's it's the pep prodigal

651
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: Daughter's give me another one? What's another one that was

652
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: just bad? Yeah? Like I told you, I got fired

653
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: from a movie that was one of my one But

654
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: another one of my one bad movies is a brilliant

655
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: sci fi picture I did for the money. See how

656
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: I said that for the free, I am to say

657
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: that it's called Sharks in Venice, and it's in Venice,

658
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: Italy and the canals of Italy are there so romantic

659
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: with the gondolas. What do you call those boats? Right

660
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: with the umbrella? And Jaws comes by and I was

661
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: expert brought in. You know, you're gonna need a big boat,

662
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: you know, like I was that guy but in a suit.

663
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 5: But honestly, sometimes I feel like movies like that are

664
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: silliness because guilty pleasures. Yeah, because you can go, guess what,

665
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 5: I'm about to learn so much shit about sharks.

666
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: You know, in the dumbest way.

667
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. Right when I signed on to this Western, I

668
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: didn't know what was going to happen. I liked the script,

669
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 5: but again I had had a slew of kind of

670
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 5: rough films that I did not know where. I pray

671
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 5: that they do not come out and people are like, oh,

672
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 5: I'm going to watch this, and I say, please don't

673
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: do that, Please don't do that. You can watch this one,

674
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 5: this one, and this one from this era to this era,

675
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 5: please don't watch And I you know, I was. I

676
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 5: just wanted to learn how to ride a horse right

677
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 5: and be in a Western right because I'm I'm going

678
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 5: to be on a Tailor Shardan show. I'm manifesting that

679
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 5: into the universe me too. Yeah, that's what I'm trying

680
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: to you know, my mom has done it. So I

681
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 5: feel like I just want to Yellowstone or or one

682
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 5: of the period ones. I don't care any of them.

683
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: Likely we should hire listen to me, we should. What's

684
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: his name? Taylor Hackford?

685
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: What's Taylor Sheridan?

686
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: Taylor Sheridan, and he watched this? What is said? Taylor Hackford?

687
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: You know who knows what Taylor Hackford is? Your parents? Anyway,

688
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: Taylor Sheridan. Yes, I'm a huge fan, amazing, But I

689
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: was on a show called Young Riders, which was about

690
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: the Pony Express. Yeah, like Josh Brolin and all kinds

691
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: of beautiful people. And Taylor Sheridan grew up getting his

692
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: brilliant Western ideas that he's so benefiting from now from

693
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: watching me as Buffalo Bill Cody on Young Riders. Baby, Okay,

694
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, James, I'm kidding, but this in it's going viral.

695
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: But then I won't tell you another weird kind of

696
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: thing because they my guys told me I can't talk

697
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: about some things about Taylor Sheridan because he worked with

698
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: another actor on a show he did and now that

699
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: actor is no longer on that show, and me and

700
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: that actor had a conflict. I won't get into that.

701
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: All just made no sense. But Tyler Sharing needs to

702
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: bring me on to Yellowstone now because it would be

703
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: so dramatic that he brought me on after this other

704
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: actor left. I'm gonna leave it right there, kids, because

705
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm a genius. So I'm gonna leave it and you

706
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: can kiss my ass in Macy's window. Okay, that happened.

707
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: So that's a weird conspiracy theory there. It's it's very fabulous.

708
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: It's Hollywood conspiracy theory.

709
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: But I'm trying to make the conspiracy theories work for me.

710
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm deep diving into the total woo woo,

711
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 5: where if I just continue to speak stuff into existence,

712
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 5: maybe if I could take some of my dad's delusional

713
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 5: self confidence and just kind of get that by osmosis,

714
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 5: then maybe.

715
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: I can already tell that from your emo thing. Something

716
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: in my their hood kind of brought you to where

717
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: you are now. That always happens. Yeah, it's incredible, But

718
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: now I think where it's going. Is that confidence thing

719
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: you're thinking about channeling will inevitably be rumor willis in

720
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: a room one day going don't you know who I am?

721
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: Don't you see? Did you hear me?

722
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 5: But I wanna My My goal, though, is I don't

723
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 5: even want to. I don't want to do that, like

724
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 5: you don't have to say it. Yeah, I I just

725
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 5: want to. I want to because because that's what everyone expects.

726
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: Everyone expects me to come in and go do you

727
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 5: know who my dad is? Do you know who this is?

728
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah. Do you know that I did Stephen

729
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: Balswom's podcast, Come on, guys, you know I I want

730
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 5: to go from that place where I've always been known.

731
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 5: People have known me for who I am more than

732
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 5: my talent, my entire life, and I want to start

733
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 5: coming from a place where my work not only in

734
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 5: are you writing? Want to it's I'm slightly add and

735
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 5: so here's what I do. Getting it from my head

736
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 5: to the paper is very challenging.

737
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: But I just give concepts to my writing person.

738
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

739
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: So, like recently I said, I love Jack Reacher. Okay,

740
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: watch this now. Imagine if you did Jack Reacher right

741
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: as a Western No, what if Jack Reacher was in

742
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: Sino Man.

743
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 5: Okay, that sounds no.

744
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: What if a couple kids dug up in their backyard

745
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: a human and that human was like Jack Reacher, but

746
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: he was a robot in the future.

747
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 5: This sounds like something that we would write and then

748
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 5: the studio would be like, I love this idea, but

749
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 5: only if Tom Cruise does it right.

750
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: And that's what I mean. Would go to the studio

751
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: because we've raised the money and we tell them to

752
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: kiss our ass.

753
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 5: In Macy's window, what what's your association with Macy's. I'm

754
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 5: really I want to I want to know have you

755
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 5: have you ever been in a Macy's window?

756
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: I can't disclose that at this time. Boom Ray, my

757
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: wife used to when we were dating. She was a

758
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: fragrance model at Macy's. Okay, so a couple of times

759
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: after hours the lights were out I took her in

760
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: the window and we had a makeout session just because

761
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: it was a fantasy. Honest. Yeah, she never kissed my

762
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: ass in the Macy's window. That never happened.

763
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: It just made me think, you feel like maybe you

764
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 5: should do some like some mall small meet and greets

765
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: for the nineties Con. But like, don't be saying, here's

766
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 5: here's my thing. I have to do it in Macy's window,

767
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: just so that you can.

768
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: Actually so, if I do a booth at nineties Con

769
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: in the future, will you help me come set up

770
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: a Macy's window please? Will you consult me? Okay, this

771
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: has been great. I just cut a deal with Rumor

772
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: will us to consult me on my booth at nineties

773
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: Con to be exactly like Macy's windows.

774
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 5: I'm very expensive. You should know this, noble.

775
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: These guys will take care of everything. These guys figure

776
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: it out for me, don't We'll get you there.

777
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: My my busy, you know, acting schedule and an Oscar nomination.

778
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: You know, what do you want to do that she

779
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: played a cowgirl.

780
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 5: Well, I would love to be a superhero because I

781
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 5: think I would really slay that being poison ivy is

782
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 5: in you know bucket list. I would love to work

783
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 5: with Wes Anderson.

784
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: Okay, but would you do like a road Warrior?

785
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

786
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: Okay, stop Wes Anderson. And he's never directed anything yet,

787
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: but when he does, he's going to be awesome. Wes Anderson,

788
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: Steve Balward.

789
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 5: I feel I would love to do some more theater

790
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 5: and some Broadway.

791
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: I just got in big trouble for saying an actor

792
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: wasn't such a great actor. Oh no, who, I can't

793
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: say it again. I'm not allowed.

794
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 5: We can edit it out. I'm desperate to know what if?

795
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: What if he's a friend of yours?

796
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: I don't care.

797
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: See I said it was a he you're getting it,

798
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: you're pulling it out.

799
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: Well, listen, I'm very in my head.

800
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: My brother did loot and serious money by Joe Orton

801
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: on Broadway. I helped him learn the dialect. We would

802
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: open like this often. You know the whole thing, right.

803
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: People don't understand what acting is. It's the ability to

804
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: do English dialect, country dialect. Oh.

805
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 5: I paid it with my own money on the Western

806
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 5: to have a dialect coach so I could. I wanted

807
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: to make sure I'll standed, real, real nice.

808
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: I love it so I said, in an interview with

809
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: a guy who was trying to get me to say

810
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: crazy stuff. Yeah, named Patrick Bette David because he's a

811
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: crazy guy, I said, Leo, I can't even say his name.

812
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: Leonardo DiCaprio. Yes, yeah, I said, he's a good actor,

813
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: but I don't think he's as great as the industry

814
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: has kind of built him up to be. And then

815
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: he said, well, you know, but yeah, but didn't he

816
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: do this? And didn't he? I went, no, no, No, he's

817
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: early in his career. He did some cool stuff, yeah,

818
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: I said, but I just see him more and as

819
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: kind of a movie star than an actor. There's a

820
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: difference between people who are movie stars because they can't act,

821
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: but yet they still fill those positions.

822
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 5: See. I have a totally different association with movie stars

823
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 5: than that. I think that movie stars are actually they

824
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 5: don't make them anymore. Movie Stars to me are my dad,

825
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 5: my mom, to like. Tom Hanks is a movie star.

826
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: Such a super cool thing. Here, this is a great observation.

827
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Tom Cruise is a movie star, John Travolta

828
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 5: is a movie star. Nicole Kidman is a movie star.

829
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: What are those people today? In your opinion?

830
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 5: They're still movie stars, right, but not the same kind. No,

831
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 5: they are. The differences is the industry and how they

832
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: relate to them has changed. It's just like we used

833
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: to have supermodels, but there really isn't that anymore interesting,

834
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 5: But movie stars like it's it's just you have that

835
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 5: that thing it exactly, and people don't have that anymore.

836
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 5: Not to mention, when you think about movie stars from

837
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 5: like old school, I'm talking real, real movie stars, you know, Yes,

838
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: gene Kelly Scarlett O'Hara. I don't even think that's her

839
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 5: real name, but you know he we're talking about. Yes,

840
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: you had to be a singer, an actor, a dancer,

841
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: you had to be a triple threat. And there's just

842
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: it's a different level to be able. You know, as

843
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 5: as much as people kind of gave him flack a

844
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 5: lot of the movies that my dad, Like the last

845
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 5: couple of movies that my dad did, he's only in

846
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 5: them for the first you know, for the first couple

847
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 5: scenes in the movie, right, maybe three days of work.

848
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 5: But they're selling an entire film based around his name.

849
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: Correct being in it, you know what I mean, the

850
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: box office part.

851
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And to me, like Tom Cruise can greenlight anything

852
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 5: that he wants, right, Like, there's there's a there's just

853
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 5: a there's a certain level that I think it's just

854
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 5: not it's just not around anymore.

855
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: There's a well, there's a level of accessibility to what

856
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: can be produced. Yes, but now the economy of all

857
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: that has changed. Obviously, supermodels now become supermodels because they

858
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: start big companies, not just because they were model. Bruce

859
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 2: Willis's you know little you know icon, Well, there's just not.

860
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 5: Cindy Crawford's and Naomi Campbell's. I mean, there's just not

861
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 5: that kind.

862
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: Of what I said about Leo wasn't it's a little no.

863
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: But it's a little bit of me going, I don't

864
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 2: think he's the cats mew. That's okay. Yeah, I'm sure

865
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: he doesn't think I am. That's okay. But but I'm

866
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: just saying in that interview, I turned around and said, well,

867
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: when you think of Leondo Leonardo, do you think of

868
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: him in the same league as you know, Gary Oldman?

869
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 2: Has he done the same?

870
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 5: Gary is a good one.

871
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 2: What I mean is I've never seen Leonardo DiCaprio say hey,

872
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: I'm taking a year off because I'm doing you know,

873
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: kisses the Spider Woman on Broadway, right, he doesn't do that.

874
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 5: Maybe he's not a theater guy.

875
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: And I think the better actors are the ones who

876
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: you see give performance, who come from the theater.

877
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 5: I hear what you're saying. And also, I think we

878
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 5: can't be overly snobby about because there's character actors who

879
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 5: have never done theater that are on that give invisible,

880
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: incredible performance.

881
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: Rumor I'm a snobby nineties icon baby, I'm a snob.

882
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm really snobby too, And I hope.

883
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Listens totally at a Starbucks in the future.

884
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure he's not.

885
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 5: Gonna I hope he comes up to you and he's like, listen, man.

886
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: It really hurt my feelings when you said that, and

887
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 5: I just feel like I want to clear the air

888
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: that would be. I just want to be there for that.

889
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: All of this is an evil ploy of mine, because

890
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: when I see him, I'm gonna go. Really, I don't

891
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: believe anything that you stand for unless you star with

892
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: me on Broadway in Kiss of the Spider. I'm daddy,

893
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 2: come Leo, let's do it.

894
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 5: And I love that. It's all just a backwards ploy

895
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 5: to get yeah, it's all just.

896
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 2: I created one bad movie just to get Leo on

897
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: the stage.

898
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 5: I love it. You know what, you know what I

899
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 5: think would be amazing for you to do. I think

900
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 5: that you should write a script called one bad Movie.

901
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 5: There was there was a movie that came out a

902
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 5: little while ago and it had insane actors in it,

903
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 5: like really crazy like Clive Owen, Julia Roberts, all these

904
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 5: people did it. But it was a Hugh jackman. I

905
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 5: think he did one where he had uh, you guys

906
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 5: will have to like the balls on his chin testicles, Yes,

907
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: a man full testicles on his chin. What was it called? Yes,

908
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 5: movie forty. You should watch it at home tonight.

909
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: Movie.

910
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 5: Yes. I think you could do something like this.

911
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: Would I have to do that?

912
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 5: No, you don't have to do that, but you could

913
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 5: get it. Could be it could be you directing a film,

914
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 5: but somehow you managed to get all of these insane

915
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 5: insane A listers. All you have to do is just

916
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 5: call your brother first.

917
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

918
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 5: I love that we somehow can like share this funny

919
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 5: thing where where people are trying to talk to you

920
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 5: and it's sometimes it's never really about you. I think

921
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 5: there's a very a small window of people who really

922
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: understand what that experience is where someone is talking to

923
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 5: you and trying to get something from you, but it

924
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 5: actually has nothing to do with you.

925
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: Oh so you mean okay, I did it now. Yeah.

926
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: So it's it's a bit of a get shorty kind

927
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: of yeah, you know, kind of deception. You think the

928
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: whole thing's about one thing, but in the end it's

929
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: about something else. Yeah.

930
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 5: You get a phone call and they're like, hey, I

931
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 5: really want you to do this movie. It's with Leo,

932
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 5: but would you mind passing the scripture? Brother? Because I

933
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 5: feel like we have this other little part that we

934
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 5: feel like you'd be great for and you're and you

935
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 5: and You've been built up this whole conversation, right and

936
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they just slip that in

937
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 5: right at the end, and you're like, oh man, you

938
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 5: really had me. You had me so close, you know.

939
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so none of not. I'm just curious now because

940
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: if it's has that what happened to you? Has that

941
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: ever happened to me?

942
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 5: Yeah? Or even I feel like answer Honestly, I feel

943
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 5: like now it would I feel like it would be

944
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 5: someone asks you about your daughter.

945
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, here here's my answer. So I'm married

946
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: to the same Brazilian gal for thirty five years.

947
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 5: Amazing.

948
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: If you can do that and make one hundred movies

949
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: and still be together, that's pretty grood. Yeah. I've been

950
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: a pretty hardcore person of faith for a long time.

951
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: I was a hardcore person of politics for a long time.

952
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: I've radically stepped away from all of that well because

953
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm interested in saving art. So if that means i

954
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: can make like a contemporary sixteen Candles totally where what

955
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: the characters talk about is this, yeah, because there's no converse.

956
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 5: No, I mean, it would be amazing to have, you know,

957
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 5: a movie about, say, moms who are contending with how

958
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 5: to deal with talking to your kids about sex nowadays,

959
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 5: in a world where everything is so accessible, or dealing

960
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 5: with how to talk to your kids. You know, it's

961
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 5: interesting that you just brought that up. The first thing

962
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 5: that popped into my mind is because I didn't grow

963
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 5: up with any sort of religion. My mom has always

964
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 5: been very spiritual. I mean, like the Queen of Woo Woo.

965
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 5: I was always there was someone doing weird stuff with

966
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 5: a pendulum and tarot cards and you know, i've and

967
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 5: I did three years of a class of spiritual psychology,

968
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 5: which was probably one of the most fascinating in life

969
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 5: changing things I've done. But I think it'd be even

970
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 5: cool exploring how to have a conversation with your kid

971
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 5: about whatever your belief is in God outside of a

972
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 5: system or what the God of your understanding. I think

973
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 5: one of the most amazing things about AA programs that

974
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 5: I think they should be literally taught in schools is

975
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 5: having a higher power, right, whatever that looks like for you,

976
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 5: and having a God of your understanding to be able to,

977
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 5: I don't know, not make the higher power someone else,

978
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 5: make it food, drugs, clothing, another person, sex, you know.

979
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 5: And I'm going super deep on you also time.

980
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: But what's really cool about this, this, this the genesis

981
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: of this is I was making an observation and everybody

982
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: in the room was like, hey, like, perhaps you don't

983
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: have a certain awareness. So what I'm saying is it's

984
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: not awareness, it's sensibility, really, you know what I mean, perspective.

985
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 5: You know, you don't know and unless you know, right, like,

986
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 5: it's hard. It's hard. From a generation that didn't have

987
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 5: to think about any of that to now it's it's

988
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: it's everywhere, right.

989
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: You know, But am I making sense as far as

990
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be cool from like a John Hughes storytelling?

991
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: Totally effective now in a in a yeah, sixteen candles

992
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: structurally where you had enough ensemble, where people.

993
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: A young a young person's discovery of you.

994
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: Should write that, you should write this.

995
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 5: I want to write is I'm fascinated by. I don't

996
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 5: want to call it love because that sounds cheesy. I'm

997
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 5: fascinated behind the psychology of attraction and well it's an energy.

998
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

999
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 5: The things that we do or capturing the energy and

1000
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 5: the essence of how we get when we're interested in someone.

1001
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 5: Because I think as a woman, I'm always really caught

1002
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 5: up in my experience and how women are. Oh I

1003
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 5: hope he likes me, or I hope this. And I

1004
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 5: never think of guys going, oh, man, I hope she

1005
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 5: likes me, especially when when I'm the one that's liking them, right,

1006
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 5: I never think, oh, there's some guy over there that's going, oh,

1007
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: I hope she likes me. I'm in my head always

1008
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 5: going he's so busy, he's probably barely thinking about me.

1009
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 5: And you know, and I think it would just be

1010
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: interesting to do some sort of an exploration of of that.

1011
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: But do you mean like in a tango in Paris

1012
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: kind of way or just more uh uh Jerry.

1013
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 5: Maguire, I love that you love Jerry McGuire almost in

1014
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 5: a kind of vignette aspect. I've always oh, that's cool.

1015
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 5: So I think I would make a great director because

1016
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 5: I am a perfectionist and I am very precise, and

1017
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: you're control control free, So I do you agree.

1018
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 2: What I'm doing? Writer, director, producers, you know.

1019
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 5: But whenever. And I'm a musician, so when I when

1020
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 5: I listen to music, I see scenes in my head.

1021
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 5: And so I've always thought of doing a film that

1022
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 5: was almost like a soundtrack. So there's not even maybe

1023
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 5: a whole lot of dialogue. But you're taking I feel

1024
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 5: like someone's going to totally steal this idea. You're taking

1025
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 5: a song. So one of the songs I want to

1026
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 5: use is I'm going to use this as my copyright

1027
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 5: because in case anyone tries to steal this, we have

1028
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 5: this dated.

1029
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

1030
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 5: You know that song? You know that song, Dance Yourself

1031
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 5: Clean by LCD Sound System. I think so it's a

1032
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 5: fantastic song and.

1033
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: Do you sing?

1034
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 5: I do?

1035
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: Can you sing it?

1036
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 5: I can't sing that song, but I sing I'll send

1037
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 5: you something it it just if you. I want to

1038
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 5: take the lyrics of the songs and make those the

1039
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 5: dialogue for the scenes. Yeah, and then get actors like

1040
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 5: Leo you know, George Clooney, Jack Nicholson, Sandra Bullock, you know,

1041
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 5: movie stars and kind of make a vignette of love,

1042
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 5: stories of connection and about how real it is.

1043
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: But from the lyrics of the song. Yes, that's a

1044
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: great idea.

1045
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 5: And mix it. So there's a song by Santo and

1046
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 5: Johnny called Sleepwalk, and whenever you hear it, immediately you

1047
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 5: think of some sort of movie where there's a man

1048
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 5: he's going off to war and he's with his girl

1049
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 5: and they're dancing in a gym by themselves, or it's always.

1050
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: Used in that it's one of the vignettes, Yes, and.

1051
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 5: Just capturing moments of reality. Because there are also so

1052
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 5: many rom coms and Disney movies.

1053
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: You never explained to me what a rom com was.

1054
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 5: It's a romantic comedy.

1055
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's what it means. Yeah, I thought, oh, rom

1056
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: com means oh. So whenever somebody says I'm doing a

1057
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: rom com. It means I'm doing a romance. I thought

1058
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: it was some kind of a like nineties calm. It's

1059
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: not a convention. I thought rom com was a convention.

1060
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 5: I mean, it probably is.

1061
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: It probably won't come back to one bad movie now,

1062
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: since I just figured that out. But it's okay, it's okay.

1063
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: What's your favorite bad movie? What's a movie that you

1064
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 5: that you watch that that you sit there and you go, Man,

1065
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 5: if I told anybody that I love this movie, it

1066
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 5: would be so embarrassing. But you just sit and you

1067
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 5: have to watch it.

1068
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: So it's my one bad movie guilty pleasure. Yes, Oh gosh,

1069
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: Titanic of course.

1070
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 5: Sorry, only the Oscar nominated James Cameron.

1071
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: Piez a ship crap, kiss my ass and.

1072
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 5: Make d You definitely are the youngest child because you're

1073
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 5: such a shit stir and I love it. You can

1074
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 5: totally tell.

1075
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: Sorry, no, no, it's so that's sorry.

1076
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 5: It's so funny because it is. It's just funny because

1077
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 5: those stereotypes are so dead on for oldest children. I

1078
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 5: don't know if you've watched this, but Nick Kroll does

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Speaker 5: a comedy stand up special and he talks about the

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 5: different orders and has a stereotype for the oldest, middle,

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Speaker 5: and youngest, and it's dead on. It's one of the funny,

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 5: it's iconic.

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Speaker 2: But I tried my kids nuts with this behavior. It's

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Speaker 2: just you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I truly love it.

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Speaker 1: Can we jump into what's your favorite guilty pleasure of

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Speaker 1: your parents?

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01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: And then not?

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Speaker 5: Really? Yeah, I don't know if it's a guilty pleasure

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Speaker 5: of my parents. Let me see my favorite. Okay, I'm

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01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 5: going to give you one. Because my mom does not

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01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: think that this is I don't know if she doesn't.

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01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 5: I don't want to blow up her spot. I don't

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 5: know if she doesn't think it's a good movie or

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01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 5: she didn't like her acting in it. But there's a

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Speaker 5: movie called The Butcher's Wife with her and Jeff Daniels

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01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 5: and she is a psych and I love this movie.

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01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 5: I think it's fantastic. She's this kind of witchy woman

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01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 5: by the sea and it's just again a movie that

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01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 5: they would never make right now, But I love it.

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01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 5: And I think she looks so beautiful. She's got this

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 5: blonde hair, which I love because she of course always

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01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 5: has her like watch it, long sheet of hair. It's amazing. Well,

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01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 5: and there's another woman. Oh Mary Stein Virgin who I

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01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 5: love is a lounge singer in it? What a babe?

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't even such a dame. It's

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01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: like my Jamie Gillard. Would you say something?

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh Sarah Michelle?

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01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then what will you think about just writing an idea? Yes,

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01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: like a concept, like a treatment. Yeah, you could write

1112
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 2: a treatment. It's like writing a college esse.

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01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 5: Oh, I trust me. I'm I'm a one woman show

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01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 5: over here with.

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Speaker 2: Good But if you were to write I think if

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01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: you were to think about like a contemporary sixteen Candles

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01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: that dealt with kind of your dad and your mom's generous.

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01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: Now they are more comprehensive, you know what I mean.

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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: But I think there's a lott of people of every

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Speaker 2: age that don't have the ability to catch a movie

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: or a story that might communicate yeah, that's serious. Is

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: the way you just encapsulated it was kind of.

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Speaker 5: I feel like it would be cool to do something

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Speaker 5: nowadays that is diving into like a first sexual experience

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01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 5: and what that is in it, because I think that

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Speaker 5: a lot of even the John Hughes movies they kind

1127
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 5: of touch on it, but not in a real way,

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01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 5: and I think that could you know who does a

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 5: good job of that? Actually is euphoria? Right, It's dark,

1130
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 5: but it's good job.

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01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: So question, if you could do your euphoria, would it

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01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: be the same as euphoria or would you have a

1133
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: different take?

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01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 5: Well, I think that lens is very specific. I guess,

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01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 5: I guess it doesn't totally. It doesn't have a huge

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01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 5: spark for me. Euphoria Well, telling a teen like that,

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 5: that doesn't have a spark. If you said I want

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01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 5: you to make a movie about motherhood and about I'm

1139
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 5: very in a zone right now where I'm really interested

1140
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 5: in the experience of pregnancy and motherhood.

1141
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 2: And but from that perspective you have a sense and

1142
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: an opinion of the world.

1143
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. My self awareness is my greatest gift and also

1144
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 5: my greatest curse. That's awesome, you know, And I think

1145
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 5: it sometimes can create a lot of self where I'm

1146
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 5: almost too hypercritical of myself. But it's also created an ability,

1147
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 5: you know. I remember doing a movie when I was

1148
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 5: like eighteen, and they said, oh, we're going to send

1149
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 5: you to media training, and I said, I don't need

1150
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 5: to do that. I'm good because I know how to

1151
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 5: handle myself where.

1152
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: You don't want somebody to change your way of answering.

1153
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 5: No, but I but a lot of some people need

1154
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 5: that because some people get in front of an interviewer

1155
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden they get they don't make

1156
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 5: the right points derailed. You know, even when my team

1157
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 5: sends me on podcasts or interviews or things and they go, oh,

1158
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 5: they're probably going to bring up your dad or is

1159
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 5: you know, in him being sick, or they're probably going

1160
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 5: to bring up your parents, And it doesn't ever bother

1161
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 5: me because I am not worried about saying something that

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01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 5: I don't want to say.

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01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 5: I might, I might say something about another topic, but

1165
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 5: with at least my family, I'm it's not what I'm

1166
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 5: worried about because my brain has always functioned in a

1167
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 5: how to protect everybody.

1168
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: My publishers just going like that to me right now,

1169
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: thank you for being here. Of course, you're so much

1170
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: more than I anticipated. I'm glad I didn't prepare. I

1171
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: kind of did, and these guys hate me for that.

1172
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: This was an amazing conversation. But it's cool that I'm

1173
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: fifty eight and you're whatever in thirty six. But your

1174
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: wisdom is even more profound than mine in this respect.

1175
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: It's certainly, but that's cool, and really my heart is

1176
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: share that wisdom however you think it makes sense. Yeah,

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01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: and definitely attack the algorithm right now. If you feel

1178
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: creatively you're bursting because of the mom thing, go with it.

1179
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 5: Well, what I'm really fascinated by I have a podcast

1180
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 5: coming out, and you know, I've almost been sober for

1181
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 5: eight years, and I didn't work program for like seven

1182
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 5: of them. I learned something recently that the ism is

1183
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 5: I sponsor myself. So I guess I've been sponsoring myself

1184
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 5: for the last you know, seven years, which doesn't totally

1185
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 5: always work at all. And what I am really curious

1186
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 5: and interested in is kind of what I was telling

1187
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 5: you earlier, which is we make things our higher power

1188
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 5: or people, and we all have these masks that we

1189
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 5: hide behind, right. We have the well I'm I'm an actor,

1190
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 5: or I'm this, or I'm rumor Willis or you know,

1191
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 5: my parents are this. And I'm really curious because we

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01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 5: all walk through the world with a certain persona that

1193
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 5: we present to the world, and that maybe even we

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01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 5: hide behind ourselves. And so I'm very curious in undering

1195
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 5: and understanding how in getting underneath how what people make

1196
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 5: their higher powers above? You know, something greater than that?

1197
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 5: And also what are you hiding behind? And to kind

1198
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 5: of enforce that you need this mask to be enough

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01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 5: or to be valuable?

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01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: Right?

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 5: If you stripped away me being an actor, a singer,

1202
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 5: being talented, if you stripped away who my parents are,

1203
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 5: why is that not? Why do I have a belief

1204
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 5: system inside of me that that does not inherently make

1205
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 5: me enough?

1206
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: It's an interesting parallel that you're saying, because right now

1207
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: you'll see a lot of actors who were famous decades

1208
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 2: ago who are now living these quote unquote normal lives.

1209
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 2: So therefore their value now is compared to then X, Y,

1210
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: and z. It's an oddity in that respect. And then

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: I just forgot.

1212
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: Somebody was going to ask, great, we'll bring it back

1213
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: to bad movies so you can finish your answer, what's

1214
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: your favorite guilty pleasure of your dad's. To finish that,

1215
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: and then what do you think their most underrated movies are?

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 5: Ooh, okay, my dad's guilty pleasure. I don't know if

1217
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 5: it's a guilty pleasure because other people love it. I'm

1218
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 5: obsessed with moonlighting obsessed with Moonlighting. When we lived in Idaho,

1219
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 5: I my dad had a claw we had my dad

1220
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 5: always has these whenever he has a couch. It's like

1221
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 5: a bedcouch, you know, so you have the row of

1222
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 5: couches and then the ottomans. So it just is like

1223
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 5: some sort of seventies jagat Kids.

1224
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: Is one of the kings of the.

1225
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 5: And I remember so viscerally. We had this closet of

1226
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 5: vhs stacked with the episodes. Oh wow, stacked with the

1227
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 5: episodes because there was something with the music where it's

1228
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 5: never been on a streaming service. It actually just came out.

1229
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 5: I think we're Scarship right by the TV room in

1230
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 5: Idaho and we're right out there.

1231
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 5: But Moonlighting to me is so I can't And I

1233
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 5: feel like G I. Jane for my mom, is wildly underrated.

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01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 5: I feel like she did strip teas in G I.

1235
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 5: Jane back to back and got annihilated because the people

1236
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 5: just couldn't handle a woman who was topless in a

1237
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 5: film and then all of a sudden shaving her head

1238
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 5: and being a marine. She was way before her time

1239
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 5: and has been a kind of leader I think in

1240
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 5: a lot of that, but people just didn't know what

1241
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 5: to do with her, and it made them so uncomfortable

1242
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 5: that someone could occupy both of those spaces.

1243
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: But also she's a very intelligent woman, oh a thousand percent.

1244
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 2: You know. Because of the industry and choices, people have

1245
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 2: played certain roles. Listen to me more insane almost fire

1246
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: so great, but listen, it's like when you're a young

1247
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: like I was a young guy seeing another one of

1248
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 2: these teeny boppera movies and this kind of trendy brat

1249
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: pack thing. But your mom is kind of like my wife.

1250
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: My wife is a big eater. My wife can eat

1251
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: a whole steak, you know what I mean. And when

1252
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: my wife sits down and she wants to make a point,

1253
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: she lowers her voice. She can really lower. To me

1254
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: more in se almost I was like, yeah, I know

1255
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: her voice, this voice and cint Elmo's there was a

1256
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 2: little more respe but she was like the pretty gal

1257
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: in the movie.

1258
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 5: So big hair, oh yeah, with.

1259
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: Everything, but the voice is raspy voice in those eyes,

1260
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: you know. So back then that was kind of what

1261
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: lent to her success in the performances she gave was

1262
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: that confidence again, Yeah, that kind of presence that it

1263
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: quality we're talking about, which, in my personal opinion, has

1264
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: never been more uh manifested than now. The work she's

1265
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: doing now.

1266
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 5: Had heart time watching that. I didn't see, can't It's

1267
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 5: really intense.

1268
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: I can't see.

1269
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 5: I think just as as a new I'm so proud

1270
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 5: of her, I'm like her ride or die biggest fan.

1271
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 5: I had a really hard time watching it because as

1272
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 5: a new mom, just gore is like not my thing,

1273
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 5: but as an artist, could not be more proud of her.

1274
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: But I had to get it out.

1275
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 5: It's so important, I think what I think. The the

1276
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 5: message behind it is so vital right now, especially now

1277
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 5: more than ever, about aging and how disposable we are

1278
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 5: as women in this industry and just in the world

1279
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 5: because man, if I grew up with Instagram, how girls are,

1280
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 5: I would not have survived. It is so rough and

1281
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 5: just even how people are so judgmental, you know, I

1282
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 5: feel like, oh man, it's just a It's a tough

1283
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 5: ass world. You know, people are so hypercritical of everything.

1284
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 5: Fifth Element is one of my dad's apps. It's one

1285
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 5: of my favorite movies of all time of his. I

1286
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 5: think it is an iconic film. Also, Deep Cut Hudson

1287
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 5: Hawk is Fire. It's a fire movie, and everybody just

1288
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 5: chat on it. But I don't know taking risks like that,

1289
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 5: I think that I wish my dad had done more

1290
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 5: movies like that, or what's the other one that I love?

1291
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 5: Death Becomes Her because he's so funny. He's one of

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Speaker 5: the funniest dudes I've ever met, and so goofy. We

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01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 5: would literally be on the streets of New York in

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 5: a black suburban going places, and all of a sudden

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 5: he would roll down the window and yell, yell to

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Speaker 5: a stranger on the street, Matt Damon, Oh buddy, so good,

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Speaker 5: and people would look and think that we were out

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01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 5: of our minds, you know, were sitting somewhere. He would

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Speaker 5: bring harmonicas he would bring his harmonica to a very

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,440
Speaker 5: fancy like Georgio Baldi or something and just start playing

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01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 5: at the table, And you know that, I just wish

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01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 5: there was more Goofy movies. I wish that there was

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01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 5: more fun and people being willing to make a bad movie,

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01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,839
Speaker 5: not in the context of we're taking ourselves.

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Speaker 2: So seriously, accept your offer of partnering with me in

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01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 2: the future as writer, producer, director.

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Speaker 5: What if I want to direct it it's done done.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see what the investors say. We'll just

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01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 2: see whose idea they like better.

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Speaker 1: One finathetic questions. One, Okay, bring it back to you.

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Speaker 1: So you said you wanted to work with Wes and oh, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: how do you think you'll react when you get the chances.

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01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: Let's let's bring this into existence versus when you get

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01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: the chance to work with someone like Quentin Tarantina. Because

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01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure you looked like.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that was amazing, Yeah, getting to work with Quentin.

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Speaker 5: The only sad part about that is I wish I'd

1318
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 5: got to work with him for more time. You know,

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 5: I was. I shot that scene and once upon a

1320
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 5: time in Hollywood the day after my thirtieth birthday, so

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01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 5: it was the coolest birthday present ever. But I would

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 5: love to I would love Quentin to be your next

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01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 5: muse Uma Thurman, kill Bill, Let's go. That was an

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Speaker 5: incredible experience. And I feel like if I, if and

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Speaker 5: when I get to work with, say someone like Wes

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Speaker 5: Anderson or these incredible directors that I so look up to. Right,

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01:16:52,280 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 5: just see the incomparable I heard your brother's directing. He's

1328
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 5: offered me. This is so rude to do you because

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01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 5: I would be so mad.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. Which one which brother? Hon Wicha? They're

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: all directors now, baby. So you worked with Quinn? Did

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Speaker 2: you worked with Wes? No?

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Speaker 5: I haven't worked.

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: But what would you want to do with Wes?

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Speaker 5: Literally? I would do I would do anything I think.

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01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 5: I think Royal ten and Bombs is a perfect piece

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01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 5: of cinema. Okay, if what are your top three?

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01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 2: What are you? Wes? Anderson said, I want you to

1339
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: do a cameo where you stand in a room at

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01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 2: the end of the wrap of the movie and I

1341
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: want you to pee in your wardrobe.

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 5: And we want to find absolutely, absolutely hands down.

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Speaker 2: She had a question.

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Speaker 5: My my top three movies of all time, and these

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01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 5: are just top three are Royal Tenant Bombs. My number

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01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 5: one is true Romance and the other one is practical Magic,

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01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 5: I know, kind of rogue. But what are your top three?

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01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: Godfather too, Okay?

1349
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:14,839
Speaker 5: Is that in the number one position?

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01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 2: No?

1351
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 5: What's number one?

1352
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,919
Speaker 2: What's the greatest film in my opinion?

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01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 5: No, it's not, no, no, no, it's not about it

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01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 5: being the greatest film. It's about being your favorite film.

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01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 5: Romance is a perfect film to.

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Speaker 2: Me, Okay, Raging Bull great is the greatest capturing of

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01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 2: the cinematic experience in my opinion. Okay, what cinema is

1358
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: cinema It's very different than movies, right.

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 5: I love you?

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01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I only look stupid girl. Okay, cinema you know. So,

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Speaker 2: can I say From Here to Eternity is a great film?

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 5: No, No, it's not about it being great. It's about it

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 5: just being like you love it.

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Speaker 2: So my three favorite films are Raging Ball, Godfather Too,

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01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: and Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's up there.

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01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: Fast Times at Ridgemont High may be probably the film

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01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: that impacted me personally at a certain time in my

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01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 2: life where I needed happiness and joy and spontaneity and

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01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: freedom and you know, and just not let the world

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01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 2: be on my shoulders all the time. So same as

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Speaker 2: sixteen Candles, kind of similar in that Oh Dies, Yeah dude,

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01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: So what this Jefferson dude was trying to say was, like, Dude,

1374
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: we left this England place because it was totally bogus.

1375
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: So what we need to do is get our own

1376
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: set of cool rules pronto, or we'll just be bogus too.

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Speaker 2: That's I mean.

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01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 5: You know, another movie I love is h cool world Ah,

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01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 5: epic Kim Basinger, epic film.

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01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,879
Speaker 2: She's a terrific one. The Oscar. You know that, Kim Basinger,

1381
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 2: she's pretty.

1382
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 5: I'm really good friends with Ireland.

1383
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: And you and Ireland should get together and start writing scripts,

1384
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: is what you should do, because we need your input.

1385
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 5: And we're too busy. We have babies, all right.

1386
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having appreciate its guilty blassness.

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 4: This sun

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01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 2: So bad as bad