WEBVTT - Big Science of 2012

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're in now. Now that we're safely into it

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<v Speaker 1>and we know there's no chance of twelve sucking us

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<v Speaker 1>back into its clutches, we thought to be about time

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<v Speaker 1>to just run through some of the big science that

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<v Speaker 1>happened in because, as is generally the case, science did

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<v Speaker 1>not take the year off. Maybe you didn't pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to everything that came out of the science headlines, but

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<v Speaker 1>you you probably got some of these stories. These are

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<v Speaker 1>the big ones. These are the ones where, uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to talk science just with random folks

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<v Speaker 1>on your commute to work or you know, at a

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<v Speaker 1>dinner party, these are some of the topics who would

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<v Speaker 1>have come up. So it serves to remind us that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we had some really big, uh you know, landmark achievements

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<v Speaker 1>in science, and those are spilling often to where we are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, actually we had some themes come out of

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<v Speaker 1>this too, which we'll discuss. But it's kind of interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that this was a year in science where you really

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of innovation, of course, as you always do,

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<v Speaker 1>but UM particularly by in the private sector and by

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<v Speaker 1>citizens something called UM Citizens Science, which we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later. But yeah, there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to choose from. But we're going to hit the

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<v Speaker 1>big items on the list, some of which we have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before, but we're going to UM just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cover them and say why they are so very

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<v Speaker 1>important and why they are actually game changers to our reality. Really. So,

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<v Speaker 1>first off, one of the big things about twelve was

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<v Speaker 1>this was the first year UH in ages that we

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<v Speaker 1>had we didn't have a Space Shuttle Space Shuttle Endeavor

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<v Speaker 1>final mission, and in twelve its activities basically involved you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coasting down the street into storage. Yeah, I mean, basically

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw was the shuttering of the shuttle program

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<v Speaker 1>in then the actual concrete manifestation of that truth UM

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<v Speaker 1>occurring in twelve, we saw four different shuttles that were

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<v Speaker 1>ferried off to new lives in different places, usually museums

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<v Speaker 1>UM or space themed attractions, without any kind of immediate

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<v Speaker 1>replacement for those shuttles either. Right, So, probably most notably

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<v Speaker 1>was the Endeavor shuttle towing that which became a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big spectacle, right, because if you tow a shuttle through

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, people will notice, trees will need to be

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<v Speaker 1>cut down, signs removed. But before the endeavor was actually

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<v Speaker 1>um towed to its final place. Uh, it actually was

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<v Speaker 1>flown from the Kennedy Space Center on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>a seven forty seven to California and then there it

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<v Speaker 1>was towed by I believe it was Toyota Tundra uh

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<v Speaker 1>to its new home at the California Science Center in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. Yeah, there were some fabulous video footage of

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<v Speaker 1>that shuttle making its way down the street. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sped it up so that it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little snappier, but it was. It was, it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was emotional to watch. And that's the thing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that people are looking at this as a new era,

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<v Speaker 1>that this was definitely a manifestation of what, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in space exploration. Uh. Most notably what we

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<v Speaker 1>see is we see the private sector picking up where

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<v Speaker 1>NASA might have, um, you know, if they had more

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<v Speaker 1>funding left off right. Uh. And of course that that

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<v Speaker 1>brings us to SpaceX, California based space X, which which

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's heard of over the years They've been involved in

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<v Speaker 1>a number of different projects, but most notably, UH, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're the first private company to deliver cargo to the

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<v Speaker 1>International Space Station, which is pretty big deal. It. We

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<v Speaker 1>were talking earlier and I about this, and I brought

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<v Speaker 1>up the possible analogy of a dad who teaches his

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<v Speaker 1>his teenage son to drive. So in this scenario, the

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<v Speaker 1>NASA is the father, and and he's been doing the drive,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been doing the drive into the to school

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<v Speaker 1>in the mornings, he's been doing the drive into the

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<v Speaker 1>grow free store, and now finally he's reached the point where,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I think I think the sun can handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's a little he's a little cocky, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's new, he's he's maybe a little a little, a

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<v Speaker 1>little heavy on the gas, but he's ready. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna drive anymore. I'm gonna let this guy drive me

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<v Speaker 1>to the grocery store. Yeah. And and UH, you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually take that analogy and even say that the parent

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<v Speaker 1>NASA gave them a little test run. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>back in May of two thousand and twelve, when the

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<v Speaker 1>Dragon capsule actually delivered one sixty two meal packets forty

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<v Speaker 1>five of them low sodium by the way, a laptop computer,

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<v Speaker 1>change of clothes for the station astronauts, and fifteen student

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<v Speaker 1>experiments to the International Space Station. So that was the

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<v Speaker 1>first kind of like, well, let's see you on a

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<v Speaker 1>test run here. Um that was obviously successful. So then

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, we've got the larger, more official, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can you actually take a bunch of cargo up to

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<v Speaker 1>the I S S for us? That later decision and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually they're they're hoping to do humans in it extreme

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<v Speaker 1>ends up, which is kind of like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>father doesn't trust the son enough to say, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>go for a Sunday drive with with your your mom

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<v Speaker 1>and your grandma. Let's let's focus on you and me

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the grocery in one piece. All right, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what's to do? Maybe a trip to the herd, to

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<v Speaker 1>the hardware store there and back again. All right, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got that check clicked off. We're working towards that Sunday drive. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean this is just, uh, I think what

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<v Speaker 1>is going to become a good indication of things to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, some space X have a contract for a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen flights to the space station. And then as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that October trip after the May test. Ruin was the

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<v Speaker 1>first official one. UM and then space x isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>only player in this commercial space. We've talked about Virgin Galactic. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Richard Branson's private space flight company and their recently

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<v Speaker 1>completed high altitude test and Orbital Sciences is also under

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<v Speaker 1>contract with NASA and Walstle launch a demonstration flight. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, it's it's it's definitely informs us about

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<v Speaker 1>what what about this age of space exploration that we're entering,

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<v Speaker 1>this this commercial well I'm not only entering, we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>in it now. This age of commercial space exploration. On

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, it's it's kind of like a oh, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a libertarian um dream, you know, this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the of big government is not doing

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<v Speaker 1>as much, but it's the the actual corporations like I

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<v Speaker 1>canic individual human spirit. Yeah, like like Ron Swanson would

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate beause I feel like, you know, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a Swedem's capsule going into into space. So that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, and and it and so. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>some people were that's going to rub them the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way. You know, it's the idea. Oh well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>it's corporations doing this, and you know corporations, uh don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the best track record with with everyone, right. It

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of an article I did this year,

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<v Speaker 1>or did in ten fictional Spacecraft we Wish were real,

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<v Speaker 1>And I tried to, you know, I tried to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a little more thought provoking instead of just like

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<v Speaker 1>here's ten rad spaceship, because spaceships fictional space ships, by

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<v Speaker 1>their very nature our rat you can throw. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>throwing a dark you know, at a wall. Any of

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<v Speaker 1>them hit, they're gonna be cool. That's just how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was trying to look at like, what in

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<v Speaker 1>what way to fictional spacecraft inform our ideas about the

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<v Speaker 1>actual future of space exploration, And I think I left

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<v Speaker 1>off the USS Enterprise, even though obviously the Enterprise is

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<v Speaker 1>a really cool ship. Yeah, and it's like a government thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's about exploration, it's about it and being

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<v Speaker 1>ambassadors and it's all these positive aspect. Yes, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>warship too, but for the most part it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>much a positive vision of our our future at the stars. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think I included that one, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did and include the USS issue Mura, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a it's the setting for a space horror video game

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<v Speaker 1>where it's a where they are all these like zombies

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<v Speaker 1>running on the ship, but the ship itself is a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial vehicle designed to crack open planets and harvest minerals.

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<v Speaker 1>Because ultimately, well that's a you know, it's a far

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<v Speaker 1>darker idea than than than the Enterprise. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the function, not the zombies, um the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of just going on harvesting minerals, and it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line. It's it's a it's a bleaker image,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's ultimately a motivating idea. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually see that getting us out there into space. If

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<v Speaker 1>there is money to be had, if there are asteroids

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<v Speaker 1>to be mined, then people are going to throw some

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<v Speaker 1>money at it. Well, and that's what we're seeing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what is lining up with us because we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the company Planetary Resources, and it's a desire to

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<v Speaker 1>mind asteroids for platinum, which could be pretty lucrative. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it would take a while for them to actually get

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<v Speaker 1>their investment back, the money that they put into that

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<v Speaker 1>investment to actually start making money. But really, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about an endeavor like that, you're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>generational accumulation of wealth, and they're not doing this. Those

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<v Speaker 1>people who are behind that are so very rich that

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<v Speaker 1>they're not worried about getting, you know, some money from

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<v Speaker 1>a pound of platinum. They're just trying to um actually

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<v Speaker 1>put their their lives and uh, their their effort into

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<v Speaker 1>this thing that will affect generations to come right. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's another um theme that that largely is tied to

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<v Speaker 1>is Mars One, which is the completely private Dutch company

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<v Speaker 1>that is committed to establish establishing the first human presence

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<v Speaker 1>on Mars by the early twenties. So again you do

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<v Speaker 1>see that coming into play, this idea of privatization really

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<v Speaker 1>taking over. But with that comes responsibility. And we covered

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<v Speaker 1>this a bit in Space Junk because we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how much is out there in orbit and how it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a problem. So couldn't this be a good thing,

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<v Speaker 1>this privatization, knowing that you'd have to have companies come

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<v Speaker 1>in and clean this up. Yeah, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>make money in space, you need to keep our orbit

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<v Speaker 1>clean so that we don't entombe ourselves. In this uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this this enclosing shell of space card. Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want your hugely expensive instruments, you know, crashed into

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<v Speaker 1>by a piece of space junks. And hey, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get up there and start sweeping. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkle nutmeg on Mars, you've got to pay the price.

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<v Speaker 1>Which that's what I hope the Dutch do. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, what, yes, now it makes sense the Dutch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet Mars one will be covered. I'm sure Mars will

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<v Speaker 1>be covered with with nutmeg. Um. So these are a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of related podcasts. We have a space junk Removable

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<v Speaker 1>podcast in Afterward Minding if you want to learn a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about that. Um. But certainly, uh was

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<v Speaker 1>the realization of this idea of privatization and space cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Now what else happened in space? And and there's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting UM trend with all of these space stories we're

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning because they're all stories that we really got to

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<v Speaker 1>participate in as viewers. UM, I mean participate. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we didn't actually control anything, but we really

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<v Speaker 1>got to feel like we were there for it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because we were either huddled around a TV or we

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<v Speaker 1>were taking a few minutes away from our workday to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it streaming on on one of the news sites. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we were We were there when when the

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<v Speaker 1>Dragon capsule uh met up with the International Space Station,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were there when Mars Curiosity visited the Red planet,

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<v Speaker 1>which was so incredibly cool because, first of all, think

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<v Speaker 1>about all the engineering that went behind launching this craft okay,

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<v Speaker 1>into space. This was when it was launched. It was

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<v Speaker 1>November two thousand and eleven, okay, all of that just

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<v Speaker 1>to get up in the air and to get it

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<v Speaker 1>on the right trastructory, that's the easy part. It was

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<v Speaker 1>landing it nine months later that became incredibly tricky and

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<v Speaker 1>put everyone on pins and needles because if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about this, by the time that the Mars Curiosity capsule

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<v Speaker 1>was at the top of the atmosphere from the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes seven minutes okay um to get to actually land,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes fourteen minutes for the signal from the

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft to reach the Earth. So when they first get

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<v Speaker 1>word that the vehicle has touched the top of the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a seven minute window that requires the computer to

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<v Speaker 1>land the machine. Okay, Because there's this delay, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has to do so lawless lee and has to manage

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<v Speaker 1>a landing with speeds of thirteen thousand miles per hour

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<v Speaker 1>that have to come to a dead stop using really

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<v Speaker 1>complex mechanical maneuverings. And this is just to watch this,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a beautiful ballet of engineering and innovation. I

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<v Speaker 1>excited when I when I think about this. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I thowt it referred to as seven minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>terror and then the whole thing. I mean, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it was kind of like an Ocean's eleven type scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to actually land this thing and landing successfully

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and and you really got that when you're

0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.280
<v Speaker 1>following it on the video streams, you're you're totally investing,

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody wants to watch an expensive wreck on Mars,

0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, an expensive crash um. And so when when

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<v Speaker 1>it actually came out, you know, successfully, everyone rejoiced that

0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.839
<v Speaker 1>mohawk guy jumped up and down by all and most

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<v Speaker 1>importantly we were able to land the most sophisticated explorer

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<v Speaker 1>ever on the Red planet. Yeah, and that again, there

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<v Speaker 1>seven minutes of terror where where you really saw the

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<v Speaker 1>magic happen and you begin to understand how they're Every

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<v Speaker 1>single component of that landing absolutely mattered and had to

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<v Speaker 1>be done again flawlessly, because once you began to to

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<v Speaker 1>enter that um the atmosphere, you have the heat shield

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<v Speaker 1>protecting the capsule from the sixteen hundred degrees fahrenheit um

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<v Speaker 1>of the atmosphere, and then you have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere of Mars, which there's enough of that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with it right, but not enough to

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<v Speaker 1>actually slow the cat, to slow it down into create

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<v Speaker 1>some drag. And then you have the heat shield popping

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<v Speaker 1>off right at the right moment so that the machine

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<v Speaker 1>can then began to see where it is, you can

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<v Speaker 1>begin to use um the cameras and okay, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>just one tenth of that part of that landing. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you have a parachute that weighs one hundred pounds deploying

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<v Speaker 1>and it can withstand pressures of up to sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds of pressure, and it slows it down to

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<v Speaker 1>two d miles per hour. But that's still not enough, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so now the parachute has to pop off and rockets

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<v Speaker 1>now help divert curiosity away from the parachute so it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't collide with that, but it now that that gives

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<v Speaker 1>it the ability to have some measure of control of

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<v Speaker 1>its landing, So then you begin to see it descend

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<v Speaker 1>in a very controlled manner. Okay, here's the other problem

0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you have. You've got rockets and you don't want them

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<v Speaker 1>to kick up so much dust that you then ruin

0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:31.440
<v Speaker 1>some of the machinery on curiosity. So what do you do, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's now deploy the tether system from the rockets, so

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<v Speaker 1>then it can start to to lower away and then

0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the rockets. That wasn't one of the really amazing parts

0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to where it's you're you're rocketing down there and then

0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the rockets are lowering it down on an on a string,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, it's just incredible that, yeah, I mean,

0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.000
<v Speaker 1>is breathtaking to see all of that unfold. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, all of a sudden, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>successful um land being of one of the most complex

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<v Speaker 1>labs on on wheels that you could ever want on Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>taking soil samples and really actually starting to engage with

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<v Speaker 1>the mission of this, which is to understand the past

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<v Speaker 1>and the current habit ability for life on Mars. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so what else do we have on the plate. Other

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<v Speaker 1>big news that happened in twelve, we have to mention

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<v Speaker 1>the Higgs. Of course, Yeah, of course, of course the

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs has just continue to be a big story because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like for ages now, because it's always like,

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<v Speaker 1>when are they going to find the Higgs? What is

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<v Speaker 1>the Higgs? Like? Because the Hig it's it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those questions just just what is it is a question

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<v Speaker 1>that continues to sort of come up because it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a it's what you hear about the Higgs

0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.400
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and it's easy to either not learn

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck it is to begin with, or to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of forget it. Now. We did a whole episode

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<v Speaker 1>on this um about the Higgs. You can look it

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<v Speaker 1>up in our list of episodes. But you know, essentially

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<v Speaker 1>that the ideas it's a hypothetical um sometimes it article

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<v Speaker 1>that uh, and it's a field that gives that gives

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<v Speaker 1>matter mass and if it, if we could find it,

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<v Speaker 1>if we could prove that it actually exists, it could

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<v Speaker 1>explain a number of the mysteries surrounding the cosmos are

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of physics. It's uh, it's a suspect in a

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<v Speaker 1>crime that should exist and we've just been looking for it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, because this is really um this is the

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<v Speaker 1>big idea, right, that this Higgs field exists and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of cosmic molasses that keeps all of us together.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we can really prove this, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>really get a little bit more at this question of

0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.400
<v Speaker 1>how do we exist, how do we come to exist?

0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.960
<v Speaker 1>What really keeps us all together? What is this reality

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<v Speaker 1>that we're all can jealed in. Uh So, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The Large Hadron Collider, which is headquartered in Geneva, is

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<v Speaker 1>tasked to try to find this Higgs particle, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>if this can be isolated, then it gives crudence this

0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.440
<v Speaker 1>idea that this Higgs field, this molasses does exist. Smashing

0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.800
<v Speaker 1>those atoms looking for the brief existence of this particle

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.879
<v Speaker 1>before it blinks out and again, sort of committing the

0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.280
<v Speaker 1>same crime over and over again, and then in the

0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:16.520
<v Speaker 1>hopes that you'll glimpse the suspect that's right after these

0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.199
<v Speaker 1>primordial fireballs are left after these proton collisions in the

0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Large Hadron Collider. So in a July it was reported

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<v Speaker 1>that a Higgs like particle was found, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>really important they're calling Higgs like, Okay, the jury is

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<v Speaker 1>still a bit out about this, right, because there's been

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<v Speaker 1>some more information about this, because we found the suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>We found the suspect. The problem is another suspect showed up. See,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like like a Raymond Chandler novel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you reached that point where they found the murder. Note,

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<v Speaker 1>it just gets a little more complicated there are two suspects,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe maybe there wasn't a murder at all. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how mysteries work, and that's how this one is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of working out as well. Well, they've been going

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<v Speaker 1>through the data and with a found is that now

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<v Speaker 1>two bumps show in the data, casting doubt on the experiment. Okay, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what that means is that there appears to be one Higgs,

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<v Speaker 1>both on with a massive one two three point five

0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.159
<v Speaker 1>giga electron volts in one with one to six point six.

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<v Speaker 1>So in a December fourteenth article in Scientific America excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>in Scientific American, it explains that it's been thought before

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<v Speaker 1>that there might be one more than one Higgs, but

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<v Speaker 1>not so close together. That's where the mystery becomes even deeper, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's okay if there's another one, but just not

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<v Speaker 1>so close together. So again, it's pointing to this question

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<v Speaker 1>about whether or not there's a problem with the experiment,

0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and physicist Adam Falkowski wrote on his blog quote, in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, they most likely signal a systematic problem rather

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<v Speaker 1>than some interesting physics. First and least, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>quite a coincidence to have two Higgs particles so close

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and mass. So again, the jury is still out, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is the fact that they're getting this close is

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<v Speaker 1>still a game changer, and it's still amazing, and I

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.239
<v Speaker 1>think it points to this idea that in science you

0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 1>have to continue to go back to the drawing board.

0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.199
<v Speaker 1>This is what makes good science good science, Right, you

0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just don't accept that this was a Higgs particle. You

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<v Speaker 1>begin to go through that data more and more and

0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 1>corroborated to the point where there's just absolutely no question

0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.400
<v Speaker 1>that it is. And they're not there right now. Um,

0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.800
<v Speaker 1>but they're getting closer. Yeah. I mean, science creeps forward

0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it has to creep a little little little

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<v Speaker 1>ways back to recalibrate. You know, it's like a roomba

0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.119
<v Speaker 1>running into stuff in your living room. But it's figuring

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<v Speaker 1>it out right. Um, so so yeah, we continue to

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<v Speaker 1>watch what happens with the with the higgs um. But

0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.600
<v Speaker 1>certainly it was it was definitely a big year for

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<v Speaker 1>the Higgs, regardless of what it actually ends up to,

0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. Being the case with these particles that we

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<v Speaker 1>these higgs is that we sort of found. Yeah, more

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<v Speaker 1>to come on that, I think. Um, all right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a quick break and when we get back,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to talk about citizens science. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. Um, so what else happened in Well, a

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of pieces sort of continuing business. Of course, science

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 1>is a continuing business. We continue to search for certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>We continue to search out things. And one of the

0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:24.120
<v Speaker 1>things we've been looking for exoplanets, planets elsewhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the galaxy, planets that maybe might be

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<v Speaker 1>like Earth. That's what we have our eye out for. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out that there is a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>data to sort through in order to find Earth like

0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 1>planetary candidates. And it's really helpful when you have citizens

0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in this case, citizens scientists to help sort through the

0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:50.119
<v Speaker 1>extensive data. And this is actually data that's provided by

0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.920
<v Speaker 1>NASA's Kepler Mission. So here's this really cool thing. Fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>new planet candidates. We call them again planet candidates because

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<v Speaker 1>they have to have to be a certain distance from

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun in order to be considered earth like properties

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<v Speaker 1>or have earth like properties. Right, Um, they've been discovered

0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>by planet hunters, and planet hunters is this project of

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>these citizens scientists. These are people who have access to

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the data that NASA has given them, and what they

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.040
<v Speaker 1>do is they look through all that data to try

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out habitable planets. And again, like I said

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.800
<v Speaker 1>in that Goldilocks zone, right that distance from the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>and not too hot, not too cold, approximate size. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just has to be just right right and just

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<v Speaker 1>the right distance from a star to have liquid water, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know would be really important for life. Uh So, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is what is so cool about this

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.680
<v Speaker 1>organization is that they have found the fifteen new planet

0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.520
<v Speaker 1>candidates and in addition, a planet named pH One with

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 1>four sons was discovered by the group. And it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of suns for that's four times as

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.960
<v Speaker 1>many suns as we have. I mean, the really amazing

0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>thing about this is that you mentioned earlier about the

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<v Speaker 1>the participation aspect um of of getting to know huddle

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.959
<v Speaker 1>around the TV or the computer monitor and watch things

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>like the Mars landing, UM to watch the endeavor going

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>down the street. And here is an example of actual

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.360
<v Speaker 1>participation where these citizen scientists are getting to sort through

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:20.679
<v Speaker 1>the data that that that Kepler has a massed and

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a hundred and fifty thousand stars here

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that they're they're sorting through the data. They're examining the

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.399
<v Speaker 1>brightness measurements that are taken by Kepler, looking for signs

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that there could be planets orbiting them. And then when

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a planet passes in front of a star, there should

0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.359
<v Speaker 1>be noticeable and temporary drop in brightness. And this is

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.479
<v Speaker 1>this sort of data again that they're looking at. And

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the idea is that the human brain is actually better

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 1>at detecting this than an algorithm. So also someone who

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>is maybe an amateur astronomer who is very excited about

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 1>this work. UM. So you get this group together that

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<v Speaker 1>is all um trying to find, you know, some sort

0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.719
<v Speaker 1>of sign that there might be another earthlike planet. And

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>again we've talked about this in our podcast about will

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.919
<v Speaker 1>we find an Earth flight planet planet in the like

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>anytime soon. And uh, this is something that seems like

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it could happen for us in the next fifty years,

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>that we could spot an earthlike planet. On one level,

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it just it gives us a lot more information about

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 1>what is out there. But also there's a lot of

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>imagination caught up in it because an earthlike planet could

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 1>conceivably have earthlike life. Life on Earth is the only

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>model of life that we have, and so when we're

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 1>extrapolating and trying to figure out what alien life might

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.199
<v Speaker 1>consist of, that ends up what we look for, you know,

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.199
<v Speaker 1>we end up looking for an earthlike world, So possibility

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 1>of life elsewhere in the universe, um, and also the

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>possibility of a world that we could go to that

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>we could colonize if we're still into that kind of

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>sci fi idea by the time when the technology actually

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>catch us up with us. Yeah. And I think it's

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 1>another good example of a discipline that benefits from an

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>institution like NASA allowing the public to come through data

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>sharing their data, having an open and essentially crowdsourcing meaningful assault. Yeah.

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean again, it's kind of like that the father

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>raising his son, his son's citizen citizen science. And uh,

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>he's out there grilling steaks, right, and or or grilling

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>peppers and or what have you. Um, the vegetarian option.

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 1>He's out there grilling, and the sun is interested and

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.679
<v Speaker 1>has reached the point where yes, here I'm gonna I'm

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna do the main cooking. But you can hear you

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>can rub some some barbecue sauce on it, not do

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 1>put barbecue sauce in a steak. Yeah, and again you

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>see this thing. Well, you could put barbecue sauce on

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a steak, I guess you could, But I mean, if

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a really good stake, there's no sense to put

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.360
<v Speaker 1>sauce on it. But the important thing is that you're

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.399
<v Speaker 1>involving the kid in the process. But you're right, if

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it's chewy and tough, you've gotta throw something on there. Uh.

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 1>But yes, that's what I think is happening. Again. There's

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>this sharing of data that's involving of of people you

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>know out on the street, right, you know. And some

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>of this is part and parcel to where we are

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in terms of technology and community, because it wouldn't be

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>able to do this necessarily ten years ago, twenty years

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>ago to share data to this extent and then try

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to get the results um in a way that was efficient.

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>So that's Joe public, that's just everybody, every random person

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 1>on the street potentially contributing to science. But then there's

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>still plenty of room for the exceptional individual, for the

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Joe awesome if you will UM. And that brings us

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to our next two items on this list. Felix baumb Gardner. Yes, yes,

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And this was another example that everyone got to huddle

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>around the TV or the computer and watched this happen.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of these moments in the last year.

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Then the moments that really hearkened back to the day

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 1>of like watching the moon landing, where we all got

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>to become really excited about about watching something historic. Pike Place. Yeah, well,

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean here's here's this Austrian daredevil who broke the

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>speed of sound in October two twelve by jumping from

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the edge of space, a feat that he had spent

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>five years five years preparing for. It took him two

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:02.120
<v Speaker 1>hours on a pressured cap soul powered by helium balloon

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to reach a platform twenty four miles up and before

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>stepping onto the platform. This, I think it's interesting. He

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>ran through a forty step checklist, because you know, before

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you take the big plans, you want to make sure

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that everything is is crossed off, right, uh. And then

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 1>he stepped off the platform and he hurled through the

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>sky at more than eight hundred and thirty miles per hour,

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>at one point reaching eight hundred and thirty three point

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.439
<v Speaker 1>nine pile miles per hour or mock one point to four,

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 1>breaking the sound barrier in a four minute free fall

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>before popping his parachute and pulling off a running landing

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>in a New Mexico desert. I mean, that is amazing

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>right there. Yeah, I mean, yeah it was. It's just

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 1>some amazing footage to watch and just quite a I

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 1>mean just it's kind of terrifying to watch too. Like

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine if I did a forty item checklist,

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 1>it would just be like different deities that I was

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>just making sure I was square with before I jumped out.

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, we get cool, alright, You're just throwing

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>candy out in the air at that point, is to

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the air gods. Um well. And also I mean you

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>have to understand too that again, this was five years

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and in the making, and this is someone who was

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 1>so good at what he did. Um that he had

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the ability to control himself at those sort of speeds.

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>And he did say at one point that he felt

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>like he was he was going to a flat spin,

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and he felt all the blood rushing to his head

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>and he thought he was going to lose control, but

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>then he got it under control and was able to

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>continue to accelerate in his speed. Yeah. I mean, that's

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>an important thing to realize about. It is it is

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>much more than just the technology of getting someone up

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>that high and then you know, booting them out of

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the cap. So there's a there's a lot of skill

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>that was involved in this. It's not nearly falling, uh

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and technology because I mean it was falling, but it's

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>falling with the nest. Yes, falling. Yeah, I mean you

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>have to have the experience in order to really know

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>or to anticipate what that might feel like at those speeds. UM.

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So he also had technology on his side. He wore

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>one pound pressurized flight suit and helmet, and without protection,

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>his blood would have been vaporized because the atmosphere was

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>so thin when he jumped at that height. The temperature

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>at his launch point was estimated at seven degrees sevent

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>d degrees below zero fahrenheit, if not lower. So this

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>is really a game changer. Um. And and that this

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>not only does this pressurized flight suit have implications um elsewhere,

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like for instance, you know astronauts, UM, if they had

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to bail out of a council early, this could absolutely

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>save their life, um if it was at the right

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>UM height and so on and so forth. UM. But

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean it also kind of speaks this new technology

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>that allows us to again augment ourselves in a way

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that we're able to do things that are beyond our

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>human capacity or what we think we're able to do.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>So there you go, Felix bomb Gardner. Uh, amazing moment

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in the science And that video is still out there

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>if you want to want to check it out. Well,

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure be out there indefinitely. But not to be outdone.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>There's also another individual, another Joe Awesome that uh that

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>made some headlines and and and this guy is really

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>it's close to like a Howard Hughes we have today,

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, except he hasn't yet entered like the full

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>crazy mode. But certainly in terms of a filmmaker who

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>is all about creating something awesome and ingenious on the screen,

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>but is also very interested in uh achieving great things

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>outside of the film world. And we're of course talking

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>about James Cameron, who became the first aqua out to

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:48.719
<v Speaker 1>reach the deepest recesses of the Marianna Trench, UH touching

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>down the Challenger Deep Site about eleven kilometers below the

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>surface of the Pacific Ocean about yeah, which is about

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>six point eight miles And he did that in a

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>one person submersible call the deep Sea Challenger, and it

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>took him two and a half hours to get there.

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>And what I think is interesting he said, well, you know,

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty much mostly devoid of life. I saw some

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>shrimp like creatures. But he did say that it was

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>amazing to be in such a massive place that you

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>just looked and you know, the horizon just dropped off.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's no real horizon because we're talking about here.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Is um really the steep trench, And to even call

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>it a trench is a bit of a misnomer because

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the marrying a trench is really an abyss and it's

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>located at a subduction zone. And subduction zones occur where

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>one part of the seabed. In this case, the Pacific

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Plate dives beneath another and this is the Philippine Plate.

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>So you know, take that all into consideration, as well

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>as that it's in a remote location, and you really

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>do have this dramatic landscape unfolding before you. Yeah, I

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>mean in the sense that the sky is the great

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>blue yonder, this is the deep blue yonder. I mean,

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>this is really largely unexplored territory of the Yeah. We

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about that in our Sunken Dangerous podcasts um in

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>because we talked about how we know more about the

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>moon surface than we than we know about the oceans

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and what's going on with that. So again, you know,

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I would be tempted to call Cameron a ham if

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>he wentn't so dedicated to this endeavor, but I mean,

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's a bit of a ham. But but yeah,

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>there's no denying the awesomeness of this. Yeah, I mean

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>eight years to to uh engineer and make this submersible,

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>which then says, okay, well, if if he's done this,

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and that means that we now have the ability to

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>continue to visit this area of the ocean in the seabed,

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and now we can begin to take oil soil samples,

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>which is something that Cameron wants to do. So, of

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>course you have the trickle down effect. That doesn't mean

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that we're all going to be in submersibles in ten

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>years going down to the Mariana Trench, but it does

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>mean that it makes the technology a little bit easier

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>for others to follow suit. Yeah, and speaking of trickling down,

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I found it interesting that inside of this pressurized cockpit

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>um they had this system set up to where moisture

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>from Cameron's exhaled breath and his sweat leaked down into

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a plastic bag. And the idea here was that if

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>he if he had to stay down there longer and

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>outlasted his water supply, he could then drink the contents

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of this bag, which has parallels with space flight, right,

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>because we know that the same sort of technologies are

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>used when you're somewhere and you're in a confined space. Right,

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of crossover you have between the exploration

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of space and the inspiration of the deepest portions of

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the ocean. I mean, both hostile extreme environments for humans.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>We were made too. We we evolved to live on

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>a very narrow portion of the Earth's surface, and if

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you go to how you go too low. We're debt

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>unless we bring the appropriate technology with us to bring

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a little of our our habitat with us into these

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>hostile settings. Yeah. Again there's that theme of augmentation again

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>showing up particularly this year. Alright, so um other things

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 1>that have been building this past decade that are gaining

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>more ground and are getting more exposure. I have to

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>do of course with neuroscience, yes, and um specifically erasing

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>your memories, which again it's not a new thing, but

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it gained some traction again this year. Yeah. I mean

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>people have been wanted to do this forever. I mean

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that we've discussed like the time and time again, like

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the basic human condition and how wrapped up it is,

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and and worrying about stuff that's happened in the past,

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and worrying about stuff to come in the future, and uh,

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's only something you can do about the future.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>But we've all but I think everyone is thought, boy,

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could go back and erase that, and

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe you get more into the time travel mode, and

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:54.479
<v Speaker 1>like I wish I could go back and fix that.

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>But then when you realize that's impossibly. You think, well,

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>if I can't fix it, then at least I could

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>forget that that happened at all. I mean, it's the

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>eternal sunshine of the mind. Would you erase a memory

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>if you could? Um? No, Because I mean there have

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>been times in the past where I would have said, yes,

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could go back and erase this or

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it rat that. But as you and you know, and

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe I just don't have bad enough memories that I

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>that I would want to erase them. But ultimately reached

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>that point where those memories inform who you are, you know,

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and to to take them away, um, you know that

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.240
<v Speaker 1>that takes away from from what you become. But but

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>but again, where this really becomes important, it's with the

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>idea of dealing with really traumatic memories and uh and

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>ultimately not as much the research we're looking at here,

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>not as much the extinction of a memory, but the

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of yeah, but also the dulling of it. Um.

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>We we did a whole episode because a couple of

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>years back at the World Science Festival, there was a

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of interesting talk about being able to erase memories,

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>alter memories, and and some of it was pretty drastic,

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>like this one um substance that could just sort of

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>clear the mind, like reset the computer entirely. Uh that

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>no one is actually tested on a human, and we

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>can just sort of imagine what it might be like. Yeah,

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:16.439
<v Speaker 1>this is the one where I was like, well, could

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you would it be like the born identity it could

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>you erase your memory and you still know kung fu?

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>You know that kind of thing. One study we were

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>looking at from Upslo University. Uh, they were looking specifically

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>at this reconsolidation phase. Now, if you remember from when

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this before, this is the idea that

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>when you think back to something, to a memory, you're

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>not going and looking at something that is set in stone.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Memory is is weird. Memory is uncertain. Memory, it's unstable

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>because every time think of a memory as a little

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 1>like something happens in your brain, like makes a little

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>clay sculpture of what it would of what happened. It's like,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, I was I was stabbed by an elephant. Alright,

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>So here's a you know, a little clay monitor of

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>an elephant in a trench coat with which the big

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>big well have a big shank a right, So then

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I put that away in the drawer, the memory, right,

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll leave it there, and then when I think about

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.439
<v Speaker 1>it again, I get that little clay model back out.

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>But in handling it, uh, and in reconceptualizing and I

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>end up changing things. Uh and that. But this is

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the this is the state where it's malleable. It's in

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>my hands. So researchers have have for a while realized

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that the reconsolidation phase, this is when you want to

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>alter a memory, alter the impact of a memory, or

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>potentially erase it because this is where it's it's vulnerable. Well,

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it gets anchored in our brains by proteins and it's reconsolidation.

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So yes, this is where you want to interrupt the

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:43.479
<v Speaker 1>actual final consolidation of it. Uh. So long term real quick,

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>long term memory is based on the formation of several proteins.

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 1>These proteins are part of the consolidation process that you

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>spoke of, and that occurs when a person learns something new.

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Remembering something causes the memory to become unstable for short

0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>amount of time, only to recover through another consolidation process,

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>which is what you just talked about. So these researchers

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>had test subjects look at neutral images, yes, and then

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>they shocked with the Jesus at home. This is crazy,

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>but yes they did it. And the reason they did

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that is because they needed them to associate these images

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>with a memory. Right, so they would see like an

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>image of maybe at an elephant holding a switch blade,

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they would they would become shocked. It's like whoa.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>So now, of course the idea is that you see

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>an image of an elephant holding a switchblade again, you're

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna you're gonna react because it's it's associated with a

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>shock to your system. You'll have a fearful memory. Right.

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 1>So now they divided the groups and this is where

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>they started to try the consolidation process and figure out

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>if they could game the system a little bit. And

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the first group, their consolidation process was disrupted through multiple

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>presentations of the picture, while the excuse me, the consolidation

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>process of the second group wasn't interrupted. And so what

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>they did though, is that after this process, the picture

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>was shown to the group again. So what they discovered

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>is that the group that had their consolidation process inhibited,

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the fear that was previously associated with the picture completely dissipated.

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>And then what they found them is that the consolidation process,

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>when it is interrupted, than the memory no longer can

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>incite fear. So what they did is that to corroborate this,

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>they used m r I scanner and that showed that

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the remains of that particular fear memory had also been

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>erased from the nuclear group of the amygdala. And we

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>know the amygdala process is fear. So yeah, so just

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>another step forward towards this possible future where we can

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 1>go back and systematically erased memories, but certainly more near

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>term gives us a lot more AMMO towards treating traumatic memories. Um,

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of like a more enlightened version of

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.479
<v Speaker 1>confronting your fear. Is that kind of a thing, because

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>certainly when you confront of fear, you were taking it

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>out of the cabinet, holding in your hands, and it

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>is susceptible to change to to to to altering uh,

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>what the memory exactly is and ultimately how we feel

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>about it. And I feel like this also underscores a

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>bit of about what we talked about in two thousand

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and twelve, is this idea of consciousness, and certainly consciousness

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>is made of memories and experiences and we talked about

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the failibility of this um idea that consciousness could be um,

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>something that is solid and sturdy, when in fact we

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>know that things like this memory um can really color

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>ah the feeling of that consciousness that day, and that

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>feeling makes us who we are right. So again interesting

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.240
<v Speaker 1>to see how much of our brain this plasticity lends

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>itself to more of an unstable quality, or rather a

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>changeable quality of our brains. And this leads us to

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>another interesting bit of science that it also drives on

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 1>this idea that who we are the human experience itself

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>is not quite what we often think it is what

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>we take it for granted to be. And this of

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>course concerns toxic plasmosis now taxoplasmosis, which in brief we're

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about the cat parasite. You know, the idea that

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you're you're cleaning out the cat's litter box. You're a

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>little too handy in there, you know, you start confusing

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>with the sandbox. You can potentially pick up some of

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>this this parasite. It goes through your body. It alters

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>your mind because the idea is that this parasite has

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>been pooped out of the cat wants to get inside

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>of the rat, and then once it is in, the

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>rat wants to return to the cat. And so how

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>do you get a rat to return to the cat?

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like I'm doing some sort of Sousian thing here,

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>But how do you get the rat to return to

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the cat? Well, you you sort of hack the rat's

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>brain to make it and take more risks to make

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>it crave cat urine, that kind of thing, so that

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it could put itself in a position to be eaten

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>by the cat and return and finish its life cycle.

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So this has been in the news for a while.

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>There's like a bunch of stuff about it back in

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>two thousand nine, um and stuff before that. Scientists continue

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.399
<v Speaker 1>to study it because it's a it's a remarkable organism. Uh,

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 1>and it obviously give and the how many domestic cats

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>out there. It has a huge impact on human culture. Yeah,

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that that this parasite could disconnect the

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>fear part of the brain in rats was terrifying but

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>also made some people step back and say, to what

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 1>extent does the parasite operate in a human being? So

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>it keeps coming back in the in the news because

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>on one level, we continue to research it so and

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 1>every now and then there are some new findings. But

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>then it's also it's it's like those weird emails that

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>your mother or your your your uncle sends you, you know,

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>where it will be something crazy and you're like, come on, dude,

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>just look it up on Snopes. It's not true, but

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>but get but people keep sending them because it connects

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>with them instantly, Like you know, if you get the

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>one like Mars will be as big as the moon

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and the earth sky. Uh this weekend? Have you received

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>this one? It goes out periodically and of course it's

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>completely nuts. There's no way that that happens, um not

0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>without just just catastrophic you know of professions. Yeah, it's

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>just it's not gonna happen. But but it affects us

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in a way. You know, we're like, oh wow, that's

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be really crazy. That's really gonna affect me personally.

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in sending this on. So when this story

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>has come out about the cat, is like, well, I

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>have a cat or my mom as a cat, uh,

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and that the parasites in that cat could be changing

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the way she thinks. I mean it, it has this

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>impact on our lives, and it involves cats, so of

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>course we're gonna be crazy about it. Yeah, And the

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>takeaway from this is not that if you have a

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>cat you are probably crazy, or that they're going to

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>some the parasite is going to make you crazy. That

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>is not the takeaway. The takeaway is that the parasite

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's just still research that's being done, it does

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>seem to have some changes in personality in humans and

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 1>biologists Yaroslav Flaggers as actually the person who spoke about

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>this at length, and um, this was in an Atlantic article,

0:42:55.840 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 1>how Your Cat Is Making You Crazy by Kathleen mccalf um. Again,

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the cat's not making you crazy, but that's the title

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>of the article that goes into more detail about this.

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 1>But what it really points to is that, you know,

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>at some point, we're all being gained by microscopic puppeteers

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 1>at some level. And I wanted to point to a

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>study at Colorado State University that showed that when subjects

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>were given a flu vaccination which stoked the subjects immune response,

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.240
<v Speaker 1>they doubled the amount of people they came into contact

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 1>with during the time that they were maximally contagious. So Again,

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 1>here's this idea that people when they had this flu

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>vaccine and when they are contagious, we're a lot more

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>social than they would normally be. Um, is this the

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>flu that is actually gaming them to do this, to

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>change their personality? And that's the question that that biologists

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>are trying to get to, is to what extent do

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 1>parasites and bacteria change the way we think? Yeah? Yeah,

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>ultimately this the part about the story is not that

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>toxoplasmosis is having the impact on who we are and

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>how we think, but that it drives home how many

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>things have an impact on who we are and how

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>we think. And again, who we are, how we think,

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the human mind, it's not set in stone. It's affected

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Speaker 1>by so many different variables and uh and and science

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>has a wonderful way of revealing that to us. And

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>if I were David Eagleman and I was sitting in

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>here in my fancy jeans and my cool coat, I

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>would probably say, which leads us to ask the question

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>do we really have free will if all of these

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>agents are acting upon us? He doesn't talk like that,

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>but I'm being him, so all right, So there you

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>have it. That is not all the science that took

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>place in twelve finny stretch of the imagination. But those

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>are some of the big stories, uh, and you you

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 1>may have heard of most of them, you may have

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>heard of all of them. Uh. But this is just

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.240
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0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:54.959
<v Speaker 1>looking ahead to where we're going in the future. So

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:57.800
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