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Speaker 2: All Right, you got your Rangers on the night art

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Speaker 2: did they win? We we actually had it on in

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Speaker 3: So safety in the second round, there was a big

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Speaker 2: But we were very fortunate to get new Been there,

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Speaker 2: You know, he had an injury. We went out to

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Speaker 2: a guy with high character, leadership, smart, tough, dependable, and

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Speaker 2: then the thirteen career interceptions and just a good football player,

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Speaker 2: that'll come out tomorrow when you guys meet with him

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Speaker 2: and spend some time with him. Just a really special

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Speaker 4: You mentioned the thirteen interceptions. A couple of times Phillips

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Speaker 2: What does he do well to make Yeah? No it

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Speaker 2: in one on ones, he's got a lot of traits

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Speaker 2: and those are things that we're gonna, you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: Told one Deell he's got to be ready for practice

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Speaker 2: we're gonna put he can play both. He's got versatility

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Speaker 2: Thing, younger and cheaper. Yes, uh, this young man hasn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'd say that Shane's done a really good

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Speaker 1: Were you contemplating running back at all to day and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all right. I know the players that

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Speaker 2: are under contract for more than one year or so. Again,

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Speaker 2: Dexter's under contract. You know his contract status. You know,

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Speaker 2: Burns for five years, Cavon for three, a Z's for

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Speaker 2: another three, tay Banks for four. You just got Nubin

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Speaker 2: for for four years. So you've got a young core

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Speaker 2: group of players that will be able to be together

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Speaker 2: for and again, I know people want instant gratification, but

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Speaker 2: it takes time to build this and then over time

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Speaker 2: you have guys that are able to create continuity because

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Speaker 2: they play together a year over year. And it was

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Speaker 2: something we experienced in Buffalo. You know, by the time

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Speaker 2: we left, some of those guys have been playing together

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Speaker 2: for four years in the same exact scheme, same defense,

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Speaker 2: and playing together. And I think that's important from a

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Speaker 2: when you're playing as one eleventh and everybody knowing their job.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited about the young core that we have

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Speaker 2: multiple years, and you know, even guys that may only

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Speaker 2: going to be together for a couple of years here

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Speaker 2: last one.

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Speaker 1: Have you had any further clarification on Darren whether he's

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Speaker 1: coming back.

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Speaker 2: Or no, nothing's changed there. Yeah, we're still giving him

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Speaker 2: his space and uh, you know, when when he's ready

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Speaker 2: to make a decision, we'll you know, we'll have those

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Speaker 2: conversations