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Speaker 1: who wants to run with the headline that brings down

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Speaker 1: someone who is a concert's also you know, and you

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Speaker 1: look at Hollywood they joked and won't play this later

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Speaker 1: in the program today, but they joked so much at

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Speaker 1: Off everybody knew Weinstein was up to no good. They

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Speaker 1: all knew it. And then uh, then remember the love

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Speaker 1: of Rome, when Polanski escaped justice and was on the

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Speaker 1: lamb and is still on the lamb and living in

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Speaker 1: France a good life, and he gets an Academy award

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Speaker 1: at the allegation was he raped a thirteen year old

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Speaker 1: and and fed her with with booze and quay ludes

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Speaker 1: and raped her repeatedly, and he hasn't come back for justice.

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Speaker 1: He got a massive standing ovation when he got an

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Speaker 1: oscar goes to Roman Polanski, but he is, there's Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: there's their vote of confidence. They sound very outrage. Didn't

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Speaker 1: he apologize at some point if I am I mistaken

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Speaker 1: that Polanski at some point acknowledge that it had happened

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Speaker 1: or something. I don't remember. I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: for sure. All Right, we're gonna get to your calls

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Speaker 1: on it. By the way, I just read this in UM.

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Speaker 1: It was in the Washington Post and on CNBC dot com.

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Speaker 1: But the Senate tax plan revealed today apparently now is

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Speaker 1: going to delay the phase into the corporate tax cut

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Speaker 1: from thirty five they first. The Washington Post first reported

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Speaker 1: of the delay until citing four people briefed on the planning. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying right now, one year from now, your Republicans,

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Speaker 1: if that's your plan, goodbye, You're done. You will be finished.

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Speaker 1: You are gonna get slaughtered at the ballot box. You're

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Speaker 1: literally it's in your hands. It's in all of your hands,

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Speaker 1: your future. How interestingly, the Washington Post had a story

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Speaker 1: about yesterday about Paul Ryan where with Trump, he said,

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Speaker 1: we already made the choice. He was all with my

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Speaker 1: friend Brian Kilmead and asked if Ryan, if the GOP

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Speaker 1: you know, to choose between Bush style Republican policies and Trump.

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Speaker 1: Ryan didn't equivocate. We already made the choice where we're Trump.

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Speaker 1: I don't particularly like the House Bill. It's great on

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Speaker 1: the corporate side, it's great on the repatriation side. The

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Speaker 1: President already did everything he could do with and he's

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Speaker 1: still doing more with, you know, getting rid of Obama

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Speaker 1: air regulations and energy independence. That's all great for the

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Speaker 1: forgotten men and women in this country that need jobs

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Speaker 1: and need to get out of poverty and off of

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Speaker 1: food stamps. But the fact that they have abandoned Reagan

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Speaker 1: conservative supply side across the board tax cuts, and they're

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Speaker 1: increasing taxes because they don't want to be blamed for

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Speaker 1: tax cuts for the rich when anybody that pays federal

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Speaker 1: income taxes by definition, is pretty rich. The only reason

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Speaker 1: I'll support the bills because it does give some large

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Speaker 1: chance of some significant economic growth. But if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it, do it right. Cut the top, cut every rate. Well,

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Speaker 1: what about revenues. Well, hopefully the economy grows at a

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Speaker 1: clip of four or four and a half five percent

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Speaker 1: GDP every year and then you'll grow your way out

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Speaker 1: and if you'd have some spending. They didn't cut one thing,

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Speaker 1: not a single dollar. Are they cutting this? This is

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Speaker 1: a shadow of what Republicans once stood for. Bench McConnell.

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Speaker 1: Seriously not. It's unbelievable. All right, Melanie is in California

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Speaker 1: High Melanie, how are you? I'm actually seating right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm so mad at the establishment. Republicans right now in

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Speaker 1: the response to this is driving me nuts. They they

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Speaker 1: it smells exactly like September or October last year when

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Speaker 1: they were so willing to throw the president under the

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Speaker 1: bus just because of unsusubstantiated allegations. They don't know. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what Roy Moore has done. Nobody knows at

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Speaker 1: this point. So why he's said he's now seventy years old.

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Speaker 1: This allegedly happened when he was thirty two. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, even if so, let's even film that

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Speaker 1: maybe there's some veracity to this. Why one month before

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Speaker 1: the election, when they don't even know, are they so

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Speaker 1: quick to throw him under the bus and put Doug

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Speaker 1: Jones into the place, into the Senate. It's ridiculous, I

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Speaker 1: think by the quick, quick, quick response by McConnell and

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Speaker 1: McCain told speaks volumes to me Bill in Southampton, Thank you, Melanie.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Bill? Listening to w R the all new

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Speaker 1: w R seventh Ton of New York. Hey, Sean, thanks

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Speaker 1: for taking more quote so on a broader sense. I

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Speaker 1: just like your previous call. I'm out here of myself

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Speaker 1: feeling violated by the damn Republican establishment. Every single day.

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Speaker 1: We gave them the power and we are getting nothing

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Speaker 1: in return from these guys. I'm sick of the mistreatment

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Speaker 1: and I'm sick of being dismissed by them all the time.

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Speaker 1: Whether it goes whether it's the new tax bill or

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Speaker 1: whether it's Obamacare, it's the same story, and they're not

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Speaker 1: supporting our president. We voted them in and they're not

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Speaker 1: giving us anything. Twenty nineteen is a that is a

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Speaker 1: formula for electoral disaster, and it won't be Trump's fault

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Speaker 1: that they lose. All Right, we'll squeeze in Derek and Florida.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Bill, what's up, Derek, oh Solan, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me on UM. I could not have said it

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Speaker 1: any better than you about Herman Kane. But I guess

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Speaker 1: that's why you're the talk host that I'm calling you.

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Speaker 1: You're nice, but listen, I mean, not a word Herman

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Speaker 1: Kinge gets out of the race. You never heard a

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Speaker 1: word again, not a word. I'm gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 1: There are women that make legitimate allegations. There are women

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Speaker 1: that are victims. They are a horrible, dark, evil people

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Speaker 1: in this world. If if we can find them, they

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Speaker 1: deserve every bit of of whatever the law could throw

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Speaker 1: with them. I don't know how you thread a needle

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Speaker 1: between that and people that maybe do it for politics,

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Speaker 1: do it for money. I don't know. I want the truth,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for. I think the But I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you go back forty years and get

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Speaker 1: to the truth. I don't know. We'll have more on

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Speaker 1: this with uraldo with Jonathan Gillum. We also have Steve

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Speaker 1: Scalise today, we have Sarah Carter, Victoria Tunsing and they'll

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Speaker 1: globby one. Katie Hopkins all check it in. Hey. You know,

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Speaker 1: Twitter reaction to this more issue is pretty phenomenal, um,

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Speaker 1: and you have people saying that, UM, a lot of

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Speaker 1: different things here, But when McCain runs out, even if

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Speaker 1: you're innocent, you should step aside? Would you? Will you

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Speaker 1: tell me you're telling me? Just before we came on, no,

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Speaker 1: I was just saying that, you know, since McConnell's so

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Speaker 1: eager to bury Roy Moore, maybe we should return the

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Speaker 1: favor and say, when he's proven innocent, maybe Mr McConnell

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Speaker 1: can step down as the leader. Uh, why would McCain say,

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Speaker 1: Jess McCain can go with McCain for a thirty eight

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Speaker 1: year alec gation you don't even give the presumption of innocence.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was fundamental to our society, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then the bigger question, how do you ever ascertain

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Speaker 1: the truth if a thirty eight year old allegation like

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Speaker 1: this is made? The Senate releasing our belt today and

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Speaker 1: from what we parted, it might be drastically different from

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Speaker 1: what you guys said put out over here, either a

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Speaker 1: phase in or things out of the corporate tax rate,

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Speaker 1: not full repeal. The state tax. They will fully repeal

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Speaker 1: tall even though you talked about the importance of that compromise, Um,

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Speaker 1: is that going to be problematic for resolving also a

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Speaker 1: democratic aid? Overheard you joking with Mr McConnell about going

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Speaker 1: to conference. Are you guys seriously going to I think

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Speaker 1: put the political hack aside. Uh, we are going to conference.

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Speaker 1: And that's the point I've been making it. We're going

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Speaker 1: to conference. Uh, that wasn't a joke. That wasn't the person.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who which which heck did that? Uh,

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you were there, it's we're going

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Speaker 1: to conference. Why we're going to conference because we're doing

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Speaker 1: this the right way. We're doing this regular order. And yes,

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Speaker 1: the Senate bill is going to be different than the

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Speaker 1: House bill because you know what, that's the legislative process.

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Speaker 1: But what's encouraging and all of this is, just as

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Speaker 1: we discussed at the front end of this process, we

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Speaker 1: have a framework that we established with the White House

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Speaker 1: and the Senate, and these bills are being written withinside

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Speaker 1: that framework. But the House will pass its bill, the

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Speaker 1: senter will pass its bill, and then we will get

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Speaker 1: together and reconcile the differences, which is the legislative process,

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Speaker 1: and that's how this process will continue. One of those

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Speaker 1: analysis that you say that in the out years, these families,

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Speaker 1: more of these families will see a tax increase. Um

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Speaker 1: that primarily you talk about the sunsets, right, talk about

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Speaker 1: why are you chosen to do those suntimes. Why when

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Speaker 1: so many of the things on the corporate and business

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Speaker 1: side are permanent. Why not will make some of those

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Speaker 1: things to keep the It's a good question. You see both.

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Speaker 1: You see uh, the expension provision sunset, so you see

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Speaker 1: business provisions sun set, and you see some individual provision sunset.

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Speaker 1: But in our bill um the primary presivisions, the big

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Speaker 1: provisions like the rates and the child tax credit, those

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Speaker 1: things are made permanent. Why because certainty is really important

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Speaker 1: for economic growth. And that's why we believe if you

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Speaker 1: sunset the wrong provisions, you will actually do damage to

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Speaker 1: economic growth and forward planning. But what we also learned

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Speaker 1: from the economic standpoint of the things that are sunset

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Speaker 1: are done in a way that they won't damage economic growth.

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Speaker 1: They will actually encourage economic growth. And also it's just

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Speaker 1: to be conformed with the rules. We have Senate budget

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Speaker 1: rules that we have to be mindful of, and we

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that when we pass the bill

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Speaker 1: out of the House that that bill um adheres to

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Speaker 1: the Senate rules so that we can use the reconciliation

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Speaker 1: tool that we need to use to pass tax reform.

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Speaker 1: So those sunsets are things that are done to make

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Speaker 1: sure that this bill conforms to the rules. We don't

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Speaker 1: personally like in the House, but we need to follow

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Speaker 1: if we want to make sure that it's privileged. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there is this explication that Kyra's black later takes sending

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Speaker 1: those I believe that as well. Alright, Hour to Sean

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Speaker 1: handed the show eight nine one, Shawn tell free telephone number.

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Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the program. I'll

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Speaker 1: get back to this issue of Judge Moore in just

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Speaker 1: a minute. And also we have Haralder of Vera, Jonathan Gillham,

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Speaker 1: the Gobby one, Katie Hopkins. We have the latest on

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Speaker 1: uranium one and the latest on the dossier issue. Uh

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Speaker 1: two bits of information. Republicans in the Congress took a

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Speaker 1: pair of steps today to drive their tax reform bill,

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Speaker 1: and you have a key committee now proved the tax

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Speaker 1: package after some last minute changes, while Republican senators uh

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Speaker 1: made public their details. The downside of what the senator

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Speaker 1: is doing here is that you know, they're now talking

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Speaker 1: about a delay in the implementation of the lower corporate

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Speaker 1: tax rate until well. Doesn't help anybody out. And as

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Speaker 1: I've been saying, I think on the corporate side, it's great.

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Speaker 1: Corporate tax from a thirty rate, that's fantastic. Repatriation multi

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Speaker 1: trillion multinational trillions of dollars parked overseas, bring it. That's great.

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Speaker 1: But the President has done on his own in terms

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Speaker 1: of getting rid of burden some big government regulations Obama

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Speaker 1: ror regulations has been great. His moves on pushing the

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Speaker 1: country towards energy independence, old things he didn't need Congress

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Speaker 1: to do. That's great. But if the Senate is gonna

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Speaker 1: wait till they're gonna get slaughtered one year from now. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: joining us is Steve Scalise and he is the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party whip. Uh. Why are you laughing? Was something I said, funny,

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Speaker 1: how are you? It's just good to be back with you.

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Speaker 1: Sean how are you You say that, but you're gritting,

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Speaker 1: You're you're gritting your teeth. There's Hannity again. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, how are you feeling. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: we watched in horror the day that you were shot

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Speaker 1: on that practice field preparing for the congressional baseball game

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Speaker 1: that you have for charity, and I know it was

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Speaker 1: not an easy go for you. And the last time

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Speaker 1: I spoke with you, still struggling. How are you doing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: doing really good, Seawan. And you know, obviously back then

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Speaker 1: on June fourteen, so you know, there were a few

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Speaker 1: times that day where I almost didn't make it, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, luckily had a great team of surgeons. I

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Speaker 1: had great Elae officers, Capitol Police and the Alexandre police

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Speaker 1: officers who literally ran to the fire, ran to the

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Speaker 1: gunman and and ultimately took him down, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: and all of us lived, and you know, and we're lucky.

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Speaker 1: And you prayed for so many people prayed for me

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Speaker 1: in my family, and I just want to thank you

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Speaker 1: for that because those prayers really lifted me up. And

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I had physical therapy today. We're working

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Speaker 1: on trying to walk again without crutches. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can walk with crutches, but you know, can't walk

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Speaker 1: without them yet, so we're working on that. What is

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Speaker 1: your what is your play baseball again? What is your

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Speaker 1: prognosis long term? Are you gonna get full functioning back? Well,

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Speaker 1: they tell me that I will be able to walk

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Speaker 1: without crutches, you know, and hopefully that's coming up in

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Speaker 1: the next few months. But whether or not I can

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Speaker 1: run again and you know, play the sports I played

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Speaker 1: before is an open question because I've got some real

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Speaker 1: nerve damage and especially on my left foot. So uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's that what we're trying to work on.

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Speaker 1: But you know, even if that doesn't come back, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky to be alive. I've got my family and

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Speaker 1: well I know how to prepare. Listen, you know I

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Speaker 1: have spies everywhere. I had heard you had gotten within

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Speaker 1: the first twenty four hours like a dozen or more

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Speaker 1: blood transfusions. Is that true? Yeah. When I came in

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Speaker 1: to the emergency room by helicopter from the baseball field,

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Speaker 1: they said I had a zero blood pressure, which, as

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Speaker 1: you can imagine, that means you're kind of dead. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't make it out from that and

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Speaker 1: I lost almost all of my blood. They had to

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Speaker 1: do a massive transfusion, and you know, there were a

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Speaker 1: lot of blood draws after. Even Vice President Pence gave

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Speaker 1: blood for for those blood draws, and I appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of the help there, but uh, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: it was. I would have given you my blood, but

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Speaker 1: your body probably would have rejected it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: uh no, I always take more. In all seriousness, Thank

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Speaker 1: God you're okay. And that day, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: the Capitol Police were there for you because of your position.

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Speaker 1: And I never saw such bravery in my life. And

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Speaker 1: as somebody that is I'm well versed in the use

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Speaker 1: of firearms. Going up against a rifle at a distance,

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Speaker 1: walking into an open field with a pistol, the sitting ducks,

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Speaker 1: You're done. It's that the odds of them surviving that

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Speaker 1: are limited. If the guy is a good shot, halfway

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Speaker 1: decent shot. Yeah, he had a semi automatic rifle seven

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Speaker 1: sixty two caliber. That's when I was shot with massive

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Speaker 1: bullet does a lot of damage. And both of them

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Speaker 1: were shot. Both David Baley and Crystal grind are my

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Speaker 1: two Capitol Police Security Detail officers, were shot while shooting

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Speaker 1: at the shooter, and they never gave up. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they went towards him, which but the hero was in bravery.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're incredibly well trained, but police officers every

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Speaker 1: day risk their lives for people and it goes unnoticed.

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Speaker 1: That's why we all niced. How are they doing? By

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Speaker 1: the way, how are they with their injuries? I saw

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Speaker 1: him today? In fact, Capitol Police gave the Medal of

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Speaker 1: Honor to UH to both Crystal and David, as well

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Speaker 1: as the three Alexandria Police officers who were involved in

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Speaker 1: the shooting and taking down the shooter. And Crystal um

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Speaker 1: she she had her left ankle really blown out, that

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Speaker 1: the bullet went through her left ankles, a lot of

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Speaker 1: bone damage and she's now off of her she had

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Speaker 1: a boot on for a while. She's using one cru

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Speaker 1: now so she's down to one crutch. She's looking really good.

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Speaker 1: She was able to walk a little bit without a crutch.

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Speaker 1: David Bailey is he's back in the run in shape.

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Speaker 1: I mean he is raring to go. Just an incredible

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Speaker 1: guy and a great spirit and uh, you know he's

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Speaker 1: he's back again. We gave each other hugs this morning.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see them every time I get that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you about this tax bill,

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Speaker 1: and uh, look, I love the corporate side, as I said,

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Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, the top rate

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Speaker 1: is going to stay the same. To me, that is

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Speaker 1: an abandonment of Reagan conservative supply side across the board

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Speaker 1: tax cuts. You know, I I believe that all the

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Speaker 1: things you're doing, we're gonna help grow the economy and

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Speaker 1: help the forgotten men and women that mattered in this election.

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Speaker 1: But on the other side of it, I'm I'm worried

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Speaker 1: that Republicans are just too fearful that they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: blamed for tax cuts for the rich when pay nearly

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Speaker 1: all the taxes. So by definition, well, first on, every

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Speaker 1: every income bracket does better under our bill. And somebody

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Speaker 1: making thirty thousand a year is going to do really

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Speaker 1: well under this bill. Somebody making thirty million dollars is

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Speaker 1: going to also do well because we cut taxes across

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Speaker 1: the board. Even if you look at the thirty nine

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Speaker 1: six percent rate, people will be paying that percentage on

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Speaker 1: less of their income because we move more of their

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Speaker 1: income into the lower brackets, especially the twenty percent rate.

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Speaker 1: In the twelve percent rate. So just think about this.

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Speaker 1: The first ninety thousand dollars of your income will be

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Speaker 1: taxed at twelve percent now, which is UH an incredibly

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Speaker 1: low rate for for most families. And the first twenty

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Speaker 1: four thousand dollars we double the personal exemption, so the

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Speaker 1: standard deduction, So your first four thousand is not going

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Speaker 1: to be taxed, and everybody across the board gets attacked

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Speaker 1: cut plus the corporate side, as you mentioned in our

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Speaker 1: bill in the House, Kevin Brady just passed out of

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Speaker 1: his committee tax rate down from thirty five, highest in

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Speaker 1: the industrialized world. That's immediate. We wanted to make an

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Speaker 1: immediate because we want to get that economic impact and

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Speaker 1: bring jobs back to America. And we do that. Something

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Speaker 1: else we do we completely repeal the death tax, Shawn.

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Speaker 1: That's something that you know, everybody knew. I've heard that

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Speaker 1: six years away, though you're not going to do it

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Speaker 1: right away. It phases out, so each year it gets

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Speaker 1: we increase the amount that is exempt from the death

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Speaker 1: tax until it finally completely goes away. And I like

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Speaker 1: the idea, but anytime you get you know, we always

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Speaker 1: get the spending, UH, we always get the tax increase,

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Speaker 1: and we never get the spending cuts and we always

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Speaker 1: get you know, the bulk of these cuts are immediate.

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Speaker 1: For families, your your lower income tax brackets, those are immediate.

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Speaker 1: The corporate tax cuts are immediate. So there you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot of benefit there. But also if you

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Speaker 1: look at the phase out, part of that is done

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Speaker 1: because look, I mean, we had targets we had to hit,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want to increase the deficit. This is

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Speaker 1: going to bring in a lot of new economic activity.

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Speaker 1: So you know, let's let's see how this works. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna work really well from the estimates we're getting already.

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Speaker 1: H You're seeing reports at average families will get over

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Speaker 1: more in their pockets, and you're gonna see wage growth,

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Speaker 1: something we haven't seen in a long time, Shawn, because

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Speaker 1: economy was going so slow because of the batt Obama

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Speaker 1: policies and the crazy regulations. Of course, President Trump has

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Speaker 1: finally reversed a lot of that. You're seeing slow increase

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Speaker 1: now in economic quotes actually pretty sign Why why why not?

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Speaker 1: And across the board cut the top one percent for example,

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Speaker 1: they pay, or the top ten percent pay the taxes

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Speaker 1: bottom why not go on all of the rates. And

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Speaker 1: for example, you know you're gonna keep the top rate

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Speaker 1: where it is, but then you're gonna take away exemptions

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Speaker 1: like you know, state and local taxes. I got a

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Speaker 1: ten percent income tax in the State of New York,

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Speaker 1: three percent city tax State of New York. Um, I

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Speaker 1: can deduct that now, but that's gonna be gone. So

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Speaker 1: even I have the same rate and less deductions, and

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Speaker 1: it means I pay more. By the way, it's not

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Speaker 1: about me. I'm just asking, you know, specifically, why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: we go back to the Reagan philosophy of supply side

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Speaker 1: conservative tax cuts across the board. Well, first, these rates

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Speaker 1: are a lot lower than they were under President Reagan

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Speaker 1: and President you can finally confront at tax or film.

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Speaker 1: Reagan was down. He was down if you went from

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Speaker 1: seventy top marginal rate and is is yours? Right? But

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Speaker 1: if you look at what we're doing. Number one, there

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Speaker 1: are rules that say you can't you can't cut taxes

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Speaker 1: more than one point five trillion dollars in this because

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Speaker 1: of this bill actually reconciliation and compliant. Yeah, because of

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Speaker 1: bucket budget reconciliation. You need to make sure that the

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Speaker 1: bill can actually get to President Trump's task, so you

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Speaker 1: you can cut one point five trillion in taxes, which

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Speaker 1: we do. And if you look at where we focused at,

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Speaker 1: President Trump really wanted to focus this on middle class

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Speaker 1: tax relief, and so that's what we did. Everybody's going

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Speaker 1: to get a tax cut. Millionaires still will have have

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Speaker 1: less of their income tax, so you know, everybody's going

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Speaker 1: to benefit from this. We repeal the alternative minimum tax,

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Speaker 1: by the way, something else that hits a lot of

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Speaker 1: upper middle income folks in a very unfair way that

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Speaker 1: goes away under this bill. So you know when you

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Speaker 1: look at the whole thing, and you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: there's be a calculator coming out real soon where you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to look at your personal situation, and

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to find most people will see

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Speaker 1: that they will pay less in taxes under this plan,

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Speaker 1: and you get economic growth. I'm sick and tired of

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Speaker 1: seeing companies move jobs overseas just because our tax rates

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Speaker 1: so high. Those jobs will now start coming back. And

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Speaker 1: we've heard listen, listen, I'm supporting the bill in the House.

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Speaker 1: What if the Senate waits, What if the Senate says

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Speaker 1: that is a that is political suicide to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: ultimately both sides are gonna have to come to an agreement.

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Speaker 1: You can see where we are in the house. Do

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Speaker 1: you agree with me? Is dumb? Well, I want to

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Speaker 1: see us make these make these immediate. You can, by

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Speaker 1: the way, you can say it. It's true, it's dumb

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Speaker 1: because that doesn't help the men and women that are

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Speaker 1: in poverty and food stamps and out of the labor

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Speaker 1: force and grow the economy. Why wait, And by the way,

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Speaker 1: one of the things we've talked to President Trump about.

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Speaker 1: President Trump really wants to after we get these tax

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Speaker 1: cuts in place and you see job growth, Uh, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna need more workers. We need to confront some of

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Speaker 1: these other problems in our society, like a runaway well

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Speaker 1: the program, and so we're gonna have real welfare reform

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Speaker 1: that President Trump wants to embark upon. Let's get people

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Speaker 1: back to work, Welfare to work worked when it was done,

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Speaker 1: President Obama got in a lot of those laws. Let's

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Speaker 1: put those back in place to help people get into

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Speaker 1: the middle class and become part of the American dream.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve school Head, Well, I was so glad

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Speaker 1: you're you're doing better and we wish you a full

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Speaker 1: complete recovery. Uh, please go to Mitch McConnell's office and

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Speaker 1: tell him I said, it's dumb and he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: a lot of people fired if he does that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go pass through the house. That's where my focusing.

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Speaker 1: I gotta I'm really behind. Let me, I gotta break

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Speaker 1: and we wish you the best. So we really do.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I apologize to my stations along the

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Speaker 1: Cox Radio network right now. One of the reasons I think,

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Speaker 1: and I learned this in Atlanta, that I end up

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Speaker 1: being right in the media ends up being wrong so often.

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Speaker 1: I learned this lesson in Atlanta. Richard Jewel a j C.

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Speaker 1: He fits the profile of the lone bomber. He lives

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Speaker 1: with his mother, and everybody began to talk about the

851
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: hero that turned into the villain that might have been response.

852
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: Turns out he was innocent and I was. I didn't

853
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: know that day was listening to my radio show. Gave

854
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: me one of the first interviews after came out. He

855
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: was innocent. You know, look at all these cases vetting Obama.

856
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: The media wouldn't do it. I did, and vetting him

857
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I knew he was a radical ideologue who would govern

858
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: as a radical. He did. The media not thinking Trump

859
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: would win. They were caught up in their narrative. They

860
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: were wrong. Ferguson Missouri, hands up, don't shoot. They were wrong.

861
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: Duke Lacrosse. They were wrong. In the case of Ferguson Missouri.

862
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: They were wrong. Trayvon Martin, Martin, George Zimmerman, they were wrong.

863
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: Look at Obama himself, a lawyer, was wrong on Cambridge,

864
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: wrong on Ferguson, wrong on on Baltimore, wrong on Trayvon Martin,

865
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: George Zimmerman. I actually believe in the presumption of innocence,

866
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: still be improven guilty the media now in the court

867
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: of public opinion, there's app thirty eight years later, you

868
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: got a million Republicans now say, oh, Judge Moore, if

869
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: he did that, he gotta go. John McCain, even if

870
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: you're innocent, you gotta go. Even if you didn't do what,

871
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: you gotta go. They're all establishment figures. You see a

872
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: pattern here, We'll continue. Congratulations. You five ladies no longer

873
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: have to pretend to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein. Do

874
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: you count? Harvey Weinstein is a course Harvey. Harvey Weinstein

875
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: is a as a. I don't know whether he's in

876
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: some kind of organized crime now, but he used to

877
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: be like some kind of junior mob kind of guy,

878
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: right was He was like in the mob auxiliary. That's

879
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: what they tell me. He will coerce you to do

880
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: with it. So and so Harvey said, I'll tell you

881
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: what go on and then then talk about your movies.

882
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: That what Harvey said. And in return, what will Harvey

883
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: do for you? Nothing. I'm not afraid of anyone in

884
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: show business. I turned down intercourse with Harvey Weinstein on

885
00:49:50,719 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: no less than three occasions. Alright, that music can only

886
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: mean one thing. Twenty five Now to the top of

887
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: the one Shawn toll free telephone number. We'll get to

888
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: Katie Hopkins. The gotta be one in just a second here,

889
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: all right. So here's what has come out today, first

890
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: broken by right bart dot com and because they knew

891
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: that this Washington Post piece was coming out, and their

892
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: headline is after endorsing the Democrat in Alabama, Bazos Washington Post,

893
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, Basos owns the Washington Post. For those of

894
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: you don't know, plans to hit Roy Moore with allegations

895
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: of inappropriate relations with teenagers. Judge claims it's a smear campaign.

896
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: I'll go back and I'll give you the specifics of

897
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: of all of this, But anyway, goes on and the

898
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: Washington Post headline as women said, woman says Roy Moore

899
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: initiated sexual encounter when she was fourteen and he was

900
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: thirty two. Just a shy of forty years ago. Forty

901
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: years ago, anyway, and it goes on to tell the

902
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: story about how nine War, who is now the Republican

903
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: nominee in Alabama for the U. S. Senate seat, was

904
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: a thirty two year old assistant district attorney, struck up

905
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: a conversation with a girl and her mother offered to

906
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: watch the girl while her mother went inside for a

907
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: child custody hearing. And he said, oh, you don't want

908
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: to go in there and hear all that. I'll just

909
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: stay out here with her, he said. Anyway, So the

910
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: mother says, well, I thought, how nice for him to

911
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: want to take care of my little girl. Now alone

912
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: more chatted with the girl, they go on to say,

913
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: as for her phone number. Days later, he picked her

914
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, Alabama,

915
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: drove for about thirty minutes to his home in the woods,

916
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: told her how pretty she was, and kissed her. On

917
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: a second visit, she says he took her shirt and

918
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: her pants and removed his clothes. He touched her brawn

919
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: underpants and guided her hand to touch him all over

920
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: his underwear. Remember we're going back thirty eight Almot forty

921
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: years ago, and I wanted over with, I wanted out,

922
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: She remembers, thinking, please just get this over with, whatever

923
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: this is, just get it over now to parent. Friends

924
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: of this childhood. Childhood friends said that she told them

925
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: at the time that she was seeing an older man,

926
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: and one says that she identified the man as as

927
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: Judge Moore. Anyway, goes on to say that her daughter

928
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: told her about the encounter more than a decade later,

929
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: when More was becoming a more prominent as a local judge. Now.

930
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: They then go on to talk about other people, and

931
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: they talk about specific allegations that one was a seventeen

932
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: years old More spoke to her high school civics class,

933
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: asked her out on the first several dates that did

934
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: not go beyond the progress of kissing all right. Then

935
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: another girl says she was eighteen years old, a cheerleader

936
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: when Moore began taking her on dates, including you know,

937
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: bottles of Mattuse rose wine. The legal age was one

938
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: year older, nineteen in Alabama. Of the four woman women,

939
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: the youngest was the woman that's making this sexual allegation

940
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: and accusation. And then it goes on. Roy Moore says this,

941
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: these allegations are completely false and are desperate political attack

942
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: by the National Democratic Party. In the Washington Post on

943
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: this campaign, more is now seventy This allegedly happened when

944
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: Moore was thirty two years old, and then he goes

945
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: on to say that the campaign said in a subsequent

946
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: statement that this garbage is the very definition of fake news.

947
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: All right, Now, as we came into this segment, we

948
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: were playing all of these people in Hollywood that knew

949
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: of Weinstein's reputation. Now all of this is now, it's

950
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: sort of like a cascading impact. We've talked about the

951
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: casting couch, We've talked about you know, young girls want

952
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: to get into modeling or music or the TV industry.

953
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: And I said that, and I said, this is only

954
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: the beginning. And how right I was Since that, let's

955
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: see you have Jeff Bezos of Amazon Studio head the

956
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: guy that worked for him, Roy Price, victim was a

957
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: TV producer, Kevin Spacey, all the allegations we've heard about him.

958
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: Had the National Enquirer picked up all over the country

959
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: yesterday that Charlie Sheen had in fact rape for or Haim,

960
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: who later committed suicide. Then you've got Ben Afflack. Ben

961
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: Afflack in his particular case to specific allegations against him,

962
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: and there were allegations against Dustin Hoffman that go back

963
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: to and you've got Jeremy Piven. Then you've got the

964
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: case of Roman Polanski. And because I just wondered everyone

965
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: knew about Weinstein that didn't care. Roman Polanski was accused

966
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: of plying a thirteen year old girl with alcohol and

967
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: quayludes and raping her. Listen to this, The oscar goes

968
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: to Roman Polanski head this and that was the reaction

969
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: when the guy that has been living abroad and avoiding

970
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: justice in America got his Academy award. That's Hollywood's reactions

971
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: used of a thirteen year old girl. Anyway, here's some

972
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: really you know, fascinating questions. How do you know if

973
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: it's true? How do we what what's true? What's not true?

974
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: How do you ascertain the truth? What happens when it's

975
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: thirty eight years later? It's a serious topic. And because

976
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: if it's true and people act like this, it's disgusting,

977
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: it's despicable, it's criminal if people, you know some people

978
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: do people lie? Now, we do have ten commandments. One

979
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: of the commandments is thou shalt not bear false witness.

980
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: We know human beings break with regularity the other nine commandments.

981
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: Did they break this one? I mean it's something to

982
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: think about. Why is it so bad? Because you can

983
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: ruin somebody's reputation with an allegation. Katie Hopkins is with

984
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: us of the Daily Mail across the Pond. I mean,

985
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: you're always outspoken. How do you tell? How do we

986
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: how are we the American people, to ascertain what is

987
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: true and not true? It's starting to be an impossible question,

988
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: isn't it? That doesn't have an answer? But what I

989
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: would say is that women, and I am loosely a woman,

990
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: women have never been so disappointing. The idea to me

991
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: that someone comes out, what is it thirty eight years

992
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: later allegedly and it's suddenly remembering how terribly traumatized she was.

993
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: If she was stood right next to me now, I

994
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: would be saying to her, that's not good enough. You've

995
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: taken this many years to remember how upset you used

996
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: to be. That is not good enough. You are disappointing

997
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: as a woman. I can't believe in an era where

998
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: you know, I watched the pussy marches after Trump's inauguration,

999
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: marching through the street, how strong women were, all their

1000
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: banners about how strong they are, how their bits and

1001
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: bobs are made of steel. We are so tough. If

1002
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: you're that tough, women, then why aren't you at some

1003
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: point standing up for yourself. We've got British politicians here.

1004
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: But listen, I love you. I'm going to tell you

1005
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: what people are going to say to you. Feminist in particular,

1006
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: Are you blaming the victim? Are you doubting the victim?

1007
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: That's what people are going to say. Yeah, And immediately

1008
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: when people say, oh my god, you're victim blaming your victim,

1009
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: blame me. Immediately. You're supposed to lie down, quake in

1010
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: your boots, like when people throw the term racist about,

1011
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: you know, at me for no reason. You're supposed to

1012
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: lie down and go No, of course I'm not victim blaming.

1013
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: Well guess what, actually, yes, I am. At this point,

1014
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I am pointing the finger straight at Let's just pick

1015
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: this one woman that's been talking about with roy More allegedly.

1016
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: You know, I am pointing my finger at her, and

1017
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm staying to that woman. You disgusted me. You spent

1018
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: thirty eight years thinking about this before you said anything.

1019
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: Now you decide to speak. You disgusted me because what

1020
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: you're doing, woman, is you're making it so that every

1021
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: other woman like me who likes working with men, who's

1022
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: happy just cracking on next to men, who actually finds

1023
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: men rather better to work for than women, because the

1024
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: sisterhood doesn't exist. You're making women poison to work for.

1025
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: If I was you know, if I was employing someone, now,

1026
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: would I employ a woman, especially if I was a man. No,

1027
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: I would not. And women like this do women like

1028
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,479
Speaker 1: me a massive disservice. I am sick, and I'm sick

1029
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: of all of the Hollywood coming out and you know,

1030
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: screaming about Weinstein after the event you took his oscar.

1031
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: Let me just let me just take the other side

1032
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: of this for a second. You know, what listen, If

1033
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: any woman is abused, there is a violation, it's I

1034
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: think it's violence more than it is you know, when

1035
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: people say, I don't want to get into definitions here,

1036
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: but here there are predator people out there, there are

1037
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: evil people. And maybe for years there was a stigma

1038
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: associated with telling the truth. And maybe you know what,

1039
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: maybe people now feel emboldened because some women have told

1040
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: the truth. But then also, you know, are there false

1041
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: allegations and when it's he said, she said, or whatever,

1042
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: how do you tell the difference? You know what I mean?

1043
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean because I I actually in all these cases,

1044
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of these women are telling the truth.

1045
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: But how do we determine who are and who aren't?

1046
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: And in an age where we cannot, we have to

1047
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: I think, maybe get to a point where we cannot

1048
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: determine initially who's telling the truth, who isn't, who's been

1049
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, deceived, who's being manipulated by the Democrats or otherwise,

1050
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: What we, I think need to do, and what we

1051
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: perhaps can do is agree that due process has to

1052
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: be followed so that people are innocent and less proven guilty.

1053
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: And what we've just had in the UK, in the

1054
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours, because we're seeing exactly the same

1055
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: pattern happening over here as you have there. We've just

1056
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: had an MP. He was hauled in. He's a Welsh

1057
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: MP hauled in. He was told about the nature of

1058
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: allegations against him, which were unwarranted no sorry, unwanted attention

1059
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: or groping. He wasn't told what they specifically were. And

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00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: within twelve hours that man was dead because he has

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00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: a wife and two children, and he killed himself because

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00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: of the shame and the pressure and not knowing what

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00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: the charges were. And yet he was already seen as

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00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: guilty before he'd even had chance to defend himself. And

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Speaker 1: that's what concerns me is We're going to see more

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Speaker 1: people lose their lives, I think, because this sort of

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00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: thing is so all pervasive, and we can't tell who's

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01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: lying and who isn't, and the mob just decides that

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01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: people are guilty as soon as they hear an allegation made.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a terrifying thing. I gotta take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. The Gobby one Katie Hopkins is right

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Speaker 1: as we continue. Katie Hopkins is with us, the Gobby

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Speaker 1: one from the Daily mail. Is it more credible when

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Speaker 1: there's a series of people making allegations like, for example,

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Speaker 1: as I read the Washington Post piece, you know, one

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Speaker 1: girl was seventeen, one girl was eighteen. Neither said that

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Speaker 1: there was anything other than him asking them out on

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Speaker 1: dates and kissing them. That's as far as it went

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Speaker 1: in those cases. So I think they included that to

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Speaker 1: make it make the original allegation from nearly forty years

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Speaker 1: ago bigger. And I think there's no doubt that the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post has an agenda. One has to ask why

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Speaker 1: didn't this come out during a primary campaign. Judge Moore

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01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: has been one of the most controversial figures in Alabama

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Speaker 1: four years years. Of course, of course he was on

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01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 1: our news here in the UK, you know, with them

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01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: portraying him in exactly the same way last night. Very

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01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: biased across our media. The portrayal of Roy more very

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01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: biased in terms of what he's going to bring, that

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01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: he's an extreme version of Trump. You know, that's the

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01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: messaging that's being played out on this side of the Atlantic.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it makes it any more credible when

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Speaker 1: you get multiple stories coming out about the same person.

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Speaker 1: I think credibility for me is women that report things

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Speaker 1: within a week, two weeks, a month, and when they

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: found the time and effort and energy and support to

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Speaker 1: report something, that's credibility for me. If you reported the

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Speaker 1: instant when do not give any do not give any

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01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: it's not going to but you do not give any

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Speaker 1: credence to the idea that this is such a horrific

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: act of evil violence and so traumatizes people that they

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Speaker 1: live in fear, They live in fear of you know,

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01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: a how they don't want people to know this horrible

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Speaker 1: thing happened to them, so they bottle it up, they

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01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: keep it up inside, and then fear that they're not

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Speaker 1: going to be believed, fear that they're going to be blamed, fear,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I think there's legitimate reasons why

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Speaker 1: and personal reasons why. Women Wait. I hear you, Suan,

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Speaker 1: and you're kind, and you're I want to get to truth,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes well, okay, but I think we spend too

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Speaker 1: much time talking about you know, these women feel this,

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Speaker 1: or these women feel you know, ashamed, these women feel this.

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Speaker 1: You know, speaking as someone who's played the system, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I am you know, my moral bar, as we both know,

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Speaker 1: is very low. I have exchanged at times my youth,

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: when I was younger, my whatever I had back then,

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01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: I exchanged that for power. Sometimes women make exchanges winningly.

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01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: Now you might go back and try and make that

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Speaker 1: the man's fault. You know, I've worked in multiple offices

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Speaker 1: where very old, unattractive men are dating the most attractive

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Speaker 1: women in the marketing department, and that actually is a

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01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: willing exchange between those two individuals. I think the idea

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Speaker 1: that we somehow it's always men praying on women. Women

1124
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: are very calculating, women are very determined about what they want,

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Speaker 1: and women are not weak. This idea that we're all

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Speaker 1: massive victims. I think that's what I find so offensive

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01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: about this. This is setting women back decades because it

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01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: makes us sound like we can't stand up for ourselves.

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Speaker 1: We've got politicians here, we managed to get our defense.

1130
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: Our secretary of Defense, Michael Fallon, has left his job

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Speaker 1: in the cabinet because he touched someone's knee. If that's me,

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01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: I'd be getting my other knee and kneeing him right

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Speaker 1: where the sun don't shine and saying, do that again,

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: and I'll who that again. You know, women are It's

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Speaker 1: just it's desperate to me that women are portraying themselves

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Speaker 1: as victims, as weak, as defenseless, as vulnerable, and I

1137
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: just am sick of it. And I understand your your

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01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: client point, which is that there are real victims out there,

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01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: But then you know what, Sean, what really annoys me

1140
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: all these feminists. They never have one word to say

1141
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: about the victims of Muslim grooming gangs because it's not

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01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: politically correct to talk about that. So it seems that

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: some victims matter more than others, and that partly is

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01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: fueling my anger at these women who look for sympathy.

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01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: Now thirty forty years later, Alright, I'm going to have

1146
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: this so um. I honestly, I honestly think that this

1147
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: is just the beginning of what's gonna be a cascading impact.

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01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: And uh, we're gonna have to try and sort this

1149
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: out and get to truth. That's that's my goal in

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Speaker 1: all of this. Katie. We always love having you on.

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01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. Eight D eight hundred

1152
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: nine for one, Shawn told free telephone number. You want

1153
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: to be a part of the program, News Round Up,

1154
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: Information Overload Hour coming up. At the top of the hour.

1155
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: We'll get back into this. Jonathan Gillam, Haraldo Rivera, we

1156
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: have the latest on what's happening with the dossier and

1157
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: Uranium one. Sarah Carter, Victoria Tunsing straight ahead. Congratulations, You

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01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: five ladies no longer have to pretend to be attracted

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Speaker 1: to Harvey Weinstein. For young I'm looking to Hollywood to

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01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: hear of your own free will, as someone course you

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: into being here. Count Harvey Weinstein is a course, you know,

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: Harvey Harry Weinstein is as I don't know whether he's

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01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: in some kind of organized crime now, but he used

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01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: to be like some kind of junior mob kind of guy. Right.

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01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: He was like in the mob auxiliary, that's what they

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01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: tell me. And now he's like a big powerful film guy. Right. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do all my movies for Harvey Weinstein, that's me

1168
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: or Max, and I'm lucky to do them there. But

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: he will coerce you to do with and so and so.

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Speaker 1: Harvey said, I'll tell you what go on and then

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Speaker 1: talk about your movies. That what Harvey said. And in return,

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Speaker 1: what will Harvey do for you? Nothing? Really? Well, what's

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Speaker 1: wrong with that equation? I'm not afraid of anyone in

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01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: show business. I turned down intercourse with Harvey Weinstein on

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01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: no less than three occasions. They askar goes to Roman

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Speaker 1: Polanski hanness, all right, news round up, information overload our

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Speaker 1: Shawn Hannity show. All right, So what you heard there

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Speaker 1: was all these Hollywood superstars acknowledging they all knew the

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01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: reputation of Harvey Weinstein and and what he would do

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01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: with women in the casting couch. It was all confirmed.

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01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: And then Roman Philanski had been on the lamb and

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01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,959
Speaker 1: been on the run and avoiding justice for all these years. Uh,

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01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: this is a guy that had raped a thirteen year

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Speaker 1: old girl after giving her alcohol and kayludes. Now why

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01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: am I bringing this up all today's news. We were

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Speaker 1: just discussing with Katie Hopkins. The gobby one is that

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Speaker 1: in fact, Judge Roy Moore, the Republican candidate down in

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Speaker 1: Alabama when he was thirty two years old forty years

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Speaker 1: nearly forty years ago, that he had a sexual encounter,

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Speaker 1: initiated a sexual encounter with a girl fourteen, and then

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01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: he kissed one girl seventeen and one girl eighteen. That's

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Speaker 1: all that was on those two cases. And then when

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Speaker 1: you look at all the other alligator, Harvey Weinstein you got,

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Spacey, Charlie Sheen, Ben Affleck, Dustin Hoffman,

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Speaker 1: all these people. It's like one after another. How do

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Speaker 1: you know and ascertain the truth? Anyway? News Round Up,

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Speaker 1: Information Overload, horldo rivera Fox News legal analysts and host

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Speaker 1: of what is the name of your show? HAROLDO at Large?

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Speaker 1: Hold bards But I don't haven't had that show on

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Speaker 1: it in a while, I know, but I always By

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Speaker 1: the way, welcome back from Cleveland. You it's rare to

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Speaker 1: have you in studio. Jonathan Gillham is the host of

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Speaker 1: the Experts, author of the upcoming book Sheep No More.

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Speaker 1: Welcome both of you. Let me start with you there

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Speaker 1: forty years ago, we didn't hear about this in the

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Speaker 1: primary um all these it's like a cascade now of

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: all these allegations made from decades ago and decades ago,

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01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: and if it happened as a as a father, as

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Speaker 1: a brother. You know, I lost my mother years ago.

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Speaker 1: Who who loves and respects women as you do, and

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Speaker 1: as Jonathan does. You know, you hear these things and

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01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: you're like, what's true? How do we ascertain what the

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Speaker 1: truth is? I think the biggest part of the problem

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01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: showing is that we have two standards. One is for

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Speaker 1: everything else murder, bank, robbery, terrorism, whatever it is. We

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01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: have one standard of proof and and recollection and credibility.

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Speaker 1: And then, because of a lot of forces that are

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Speaker 1: both scidal and and uh, politically correct, we have a

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Speaker 1: whole different rule for sexual encounters. Now. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Judge Moore, I don't know what he did with this

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Speaker 1: young this girl of thirteen fourteen years old in nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy nine, forty years ago, but I know that she's

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Speaker 1: been married three times since she has uh you know,

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Speaker 1: she's working in a loan sharks office now, she says,

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Speaker 1: you know, my My point is we suspend this belief

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Speaker 1: because it is politically correct to believe every single allegation

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Speaker 1: now being made. And by the look of it, Shoan

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Speaker 1: all of his Republican colleagues are deserting him. They are

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:24,440
Speaker 1: buying the story hook line and sink. But there's politics

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Speaker 1: that Mitch McConnell said, if it's true, you've got to

1231
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: get out of the miss McConnell hated him from day one.

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell poured millions of establishment dollars against him and

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Speaker 1: lost let me bring Jonathan in here. What you know, Look,

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Speaker 1: if you care about women, you say, well, I gotta

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: pay attention, you gotta listen to it. Do you need

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Speaker 1: a pattern of behavior if it's is there statute of limitations?

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01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: You know? But then again, what about women that have

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Speaker 1: been trial so traumatized that they didn't have the strength

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: to say something, but now they do? Right? Well, you

1240
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: know again we're the things that you that Werelda was

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: just bringing up there for a second, um about the

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: statue of limitations. We were also talking before we came

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01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: into the studio was the age of consent. And with uh,

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01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about this fourteen year old girl, um,

1245
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: but with the other women that were saying that things happened,

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: the age of consent is sixteen years old. So we're

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: not even really looking at a legal issue with these

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01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: other people that came forward and said things. But ultimately,

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01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the times when women have

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: sexual assault against them when they're younger, um, or things

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01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: happen inappropriately when they're younger, they're gonna have certain behaviors

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Speaker 1: that are gonna be characteristics of these types of things.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be the first person to say that

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 1: if I don't care who the person is, what side

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01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: of the aisle theron, if they've done something inappropriate and

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Speaker 1: it's proven, Um, then I'm not gonna stand in the

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01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: way of any of these people being condemned for what

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01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: they've done. What I have a problem with though. Oh

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Speaker 1: by the way, I forgot to mention once the comedian

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Speaker 1: Louis c K. You know, five women say he crossed

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Speaker 1: the line into the sexual misconduct. Louis c K also

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01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: made jokes about pedophilia, and uh got some heat about that.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, sean um, is that when we

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Speaker 1: when we look at the way that these things come

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Speaker 1: up at these um you know, these times when there's

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Speaker 1: an election process, when something's going on, it just so

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Speaker 1: happens to be at that point in time. And for me,

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01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: a lot of these concusers lose credibility when that happens,

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01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: oh definitely. And the process of how quickly they want

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01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: to condemn the other side wants to condemn it also

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01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: just breaks down the credibility. I think two things. This

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: should be a reasonable statute of limitations in society's mind.

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01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: Maybe a decade, let's give you ten years, which is

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Speaker 1: well more than most crimes, and there has to be

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Speaker 1: some contemporaneous corroboration. Did you did you write a note?

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 1: Do you have a text? Do you have an email?

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: Did you did you tell you a girl? Did you

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: tell your mother? Did you write it in your diary?

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01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: You certainly had that. I mean something otherwise I have.

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01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: I don't care about Roy Moore. He's obviously his politics

1281
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: are not my politics. But I think that in terms

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01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: of essential fairness, if this really does torpedo his nomination

1283
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: for the United States Senate seat, as I think it

1284
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: is going to, then I think that that is uh,

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: this is the kind of essential unfairness that's going to

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: I think blunt this new movement to rute out sex

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01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 1: harassment and so forth. I think it's gonna get worse.

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01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a cascading I look at all

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01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: the names, you know, look at she and accused of

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01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: raping Corey Haim. Here's the other problem with this is

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: that I don't doubt for a second that there are

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01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: truths and a lot of these accusations. I mean, what

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01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: we just heard was chilling in that intro with Gwyneth

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01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: Paltrow talking. But the other problem that you're facing here

1295
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: is the same thing that is widespread across college campuses

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01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: and in the military, which is where people don't sexually

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: assault somebody, where there isn't a sexual rape or something,

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01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: and somebody makes an accusation, it's almost guilty until proven

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01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: innocent in a lot of cases. And in politics. Uh,

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: it's this is I said this earlier to Katie Hopkins.

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: We have ten commandments in the Bible, right, we know

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: human beings break nine out of the ten all the time. Fact. Now,

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01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: the other one that I'm addressing here is thou shalt

1304
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: not bear false witness. That is one of the big ten.

1305
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: Why would it be one of the big ten to me?

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: Because an allegation that is false, bearing false witness against

1307
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: thy neighbor can be so devastating Just the allegation alone

1308
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: can ruin somebody's life. And I think the court of

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01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: public opinion is Wow. Now we're all talking about Roy Moore.

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: Now let's look at it from both sides. What if

1311
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: he didn't do it and what if he did do it?

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: For all the well, I think that how can you

1313
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: ever determine the truth or falseness of this allegation when

1314
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: it's four decades old? When everybody involved has been through

1315
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: so many different changes. I think sex harassment stinks. I

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01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: think that predators in the workplace or wherever do so

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: if their extreme peril. Look at what happen. You think

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01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: people do it for a paycheck. Sometimes there has to

1319
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 1: be someone out there who's calling the human resources hotline

1320
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: motivated by something other than the desire to seek justice.

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01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: It's sad because but those few women that that may

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: have ulterior motives, then it hurts the women that are

1323
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 1: legitimate victims of what is I think, you know, heinous

1324
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: treatment of women. And this is a hard part about

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01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: a statue of limitations, is that heinous act like um,

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01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: sexual assault on somebody. You were saying, we were talking

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01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: again that there's no statue limitation enforcible rate, enforcible rape.

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: But again even and with a forcible rape, um, if

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: it happened forty fifty years ago, or they're saying it

1330
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: happened forty years ago, it's very difficult to prove that.

1331
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: And somebody can just say that the person's career will

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01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: be ruined and it may never come about anything in

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01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: the court of law, you know, uh, I agree, And

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: and and convictions are extremely rare. But if you look

1335
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: at that Scago case, remember the Kennedy cousin in Connecticut,

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: that case twenty years later, no physical evidence whatsoever, and

1337
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: they got a conviction. So it is possible, unlikely, but possible.

1338
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: There is no civil remedy. They can't sue them. They

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: know that. In other words, this woman can't be motivated

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01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 1: by a paycheck from Roy Moore because there's no civil

1341
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: right to sue that has lapsed long ago. The Bill

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: Cosby and of those cases, they're also bore barred by

1343
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: either the civil uh sessual limitations or the criminal or

1344
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: both uh and and Cosby. I predict there will be

1345
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: no convictions. I predict that all of everything you've heard

1346
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: of Bill Cosby, it will end up with him. Think

1347
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: it's true. I do think when I mean, there's so

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: many women that have come out. I I know for

1349
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: a fact that that his reputation was such that when

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: you talk to agents about Bill Cosby, they used to

1351
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: say that if you opened for Bill Cosby, the opening act,

1352
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: you opened for Bill Cosby. In other words, he sexually

1353
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: abused or had a sexual relationship with almost everyone he

1354
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 1: worked with. So I believe that he had a very

1355
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: sour reputation. Roy Moore, I don't know his reputation, but

1356
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: i'll tell you right now, he's he's wrecked. There's no

1357
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: way that the Republican Party can or will allow someone

1358
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: who allegedly molested the public is Look at the case

1359
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: of the Access Hollywood tape. There are a lot of

1360
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: us thinking that maybe it for Donald Trump. It was

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01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: an October surprise. I thought I thought it was. I was,

1362
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: I was among them. But another one when when it's

1363
01:16:54,680 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: nearly it's thirty eight years ago, when Alannia said it

1364
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: was locker room banter, every guy listening, the vast majority,

1365
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: said oh, yeah, okay, I get it now and then

1366
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: and then when? And so what was an egregious allegation

1367
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: of obboxious flip and comment by the candidate at that time,

1368
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: But by his wife's intervention, she she mitigated it and

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01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: brought it down to a level that people in my

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01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: generation could relate to. Oh yeah, locker room. Yeah, you're

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01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: saying your old schools and yeah, but you've changed. I mean,

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01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, have I changed? But you know, you

1373
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: have to remember what the sixties and seventies were, Like,

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01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: I gotta break here, I got a. We'll have more

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01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: on this on Hannity tonight at nine. Jonathan, thank you.

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01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: We're all the great to have you back. Bro. Why

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01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: not fish single? I gotta figure every starlet in Hollywood

1378
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: wanted at least you know what I'm saying. Did you

1379
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: did you ever get to experience the I'm gonna say

1380
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: the mugul aspect, I mean, do a little coke. You

1381
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: don't hang out with you know, I don't know. Julie

1382
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: could be a job something You've never got any of that, Howard,

1383
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: as you know only too well. It doesn't work that way.

1384
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't really. I'll tell you who it works that

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: way for. It works the way for the actors producers.

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01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 1: Girl knows that that that that if she's a competent actress,

1387
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: she could get on your good side. You could make

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: her a star over the night. Don't tell me it doesn't.

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01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: I wish. I wish. The movies are too expensive, the

1390
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: risks are too great. It doesn't happen that you can't

1391
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,480
Speaker 1: walk into the room, pull your fans off and say okay,

1392
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: John Frankenheimer, you know, the great director told us stories

1393
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: about his day in the movies. This this is we

1394
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: were we were born too late, because I've read about

1395
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: the great moguls, like the Louis B. Mayer's those guys,

1396
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: those guys, Yeah, these guys, I assume. But these guys,

1397
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: this this, this round, nothing really really, I hate to

1398
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: disappoint a few famous directors. I've asked them the same director,

1399
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 1: directors different, because directors can make the decision. But I

1400
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: I know a couple of famous directors. I mean, I'm

1401
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: not gonna embarrass them, talk talk them off here. And

1402
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: they tell me, actually that they never really got laid

1403
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: that much's really nothing. Well maybe that's an honorable thing too,

1404
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because really, I mean, you should

1405
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: women be able to get into the movie business without

1406
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: all that Hell no, of course, not only that, but

1407
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: they do you mean, you know, and you have women

1408
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: like Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts who are deeply committed

1409
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: to excellent causes, and Charlie's around. I mean, all these

1410
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: incredibly beautiful women, the great beauties. But they're so bloody

1411
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: intelligent and brilliant. You sit down with a girl like that,

1412
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: you don't want to do stupid. You want to just

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01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: talk to them and say, be in my movie please, Yes,

1414
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: that I was kind of aggressive for I need to

1415
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: know a person an I think. Please, I swear, I

1416
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: won't just sit at me done embarrassing me in the

1417
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: hotel here all the time? Sit there, please one minute, please.

1418
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to do something. I don't want it.

1419
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:11,440
Speaker 1: I want you know, you just listen to this depravity.

1420
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: And you know the fact that everybody in Hollywood knew

1421
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: about Harvey Weinstein. Every they joked about, laughed about it.

1422
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: You know, in the case of Roman Polanski, years later

1423
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: he admitted he was this. But then when he gets

1424
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: an Academy award, avidity drugged a thirteen year old, got

1425
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: her drunk, and raped her. Repeatedly, Oh I'm sorry, he says.

1426
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: She was a victim of mine and then a victim

1427
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: of the press, and he has run from justice. In

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01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: Hollywood applauded that like quick break, right back will continue.

1429
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: I learned about the dossier a few days ago. Okay,

1430
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: how how is that possible? I mean, well, because you

1431
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: hire a lawyer, and we we hire lawyers all the

1432
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: time who hire the third party vendors to do their work.

1433
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: There are a lot of questions about this Russian dossier

1434
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: and their evidence that has come out that the d

1435
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: n C helped fund it, because you know that was happening,

1436
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: and were you surprised to hear? I asked one question

1437
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: on November fourth, and I was told that I did

1438
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: not need to know, and so no, I did not

1439
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: know because I did not control my money. Explain you

1440
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: know campaigns. So the line item is called legal, the

1441
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: line item is called research. The line on them. What

1442
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: if you asked me today, because I had a list

1443
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: of all of the DNC consultants, do I see fusion GPS? No? Uh.

1444
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: But if you asked me, was this a question that

1445
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: came up during my tenures chair? It did on November four?

1446
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: Do you think it's wrong? Do you think it's a

1447
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: bad precedent to do legal research for opposition I was

1448
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: not involved in the contract and I don't know publican.

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01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: I did not. I did megan Um. I was not

1450
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: involved in the hiring of this firm. I did not

1451
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: know about the existence of this contract. But in terms

1452
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: of opposition research, people go after things that I must

1453
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: tell you in America, they go after dirt. When they

1454
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: go after dirt. You saw what Trump Junior did, But no,

1455
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not go after it. But

1456
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: just gets wrong to go to Russia to ask for opposition. Reason,

1457
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: don't you asking me about the dossier and how it

1458
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: was compiled. I don't know how it was compiled. I

1459
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: don't know who went after Mega. Now let me tell

1460
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: you what we found. Although we did not find clear

1461
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate

1462
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence

1463
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,879
Speaker 1: that they were extremely careless in their handling a very sensitive,

1464
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: highly classified information. For example, seven email chains concerned matters

1465
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: that were classified at the top secret Special Access Program

1466
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: at the time they were sent and received. Those chains

1467
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: involved Secretary Clinton both sending emails about those matters and

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01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: receiving emails about those same matters. There is evidence to

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01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position,

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: or in the position of those with whom she was

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01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: corresponding about those matters, should have known an unclassified system

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01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: was no place for that conversation. All right, as we

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Speaker 1: continue the very latest, of course, fusion GPS, the comments

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Speaker 1: I don't know who did, I have no I have

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01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: no idea, I have no idea who paid for the

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01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 1: phony Russian dossier with propaganda lies Russian bought and paid

1477
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: for by Hillary Clinton the d n C that she

1478
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: was controlling, but nobody else knew and nobody had any

1479
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: idea whatsoever at all at any point at any time.

1480
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: And then of course James Comey blatantly misrepresenting other criminal

1481
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: statutes as it relates to well, extremely careless, even though

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01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: he had gross negligence as the standard before he changed it.

1483
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: Sarah Carter investigative journalist, and she's been in the forefront

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01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: of all of these stories. And also Victoria Tuntsing is

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01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: back with us. He's a partner at the Jenneva and Tuntsing,

1486
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 1: and of course she is also representing the FBI informant

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Speaker 1: in the Iranium one case. Welcome both of you back

1488
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: to the program. Let me begin with you, Sarah, what

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01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: is your reaction with Donna brue Zilla has been saying

1490
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: in the last few days, Well, this is incredible. I mean,

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: you look at John A. Brazil. I mean, I think

1492
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: that the book is very explicit. I mean, I know

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01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: she's tried to hold back on some of her own

1494
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: statements that she actually put out in her book. But

1495
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: one of the things time that I am stunned by

1496
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: and this is um, maybe I'm not so much done.

1497
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: Is that? Remember in the beginning they kept trying to

1498
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: say even when don Junr had met and remember he

1499
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 1: didn't reach out to this tale in vesselment Skaya, this attorney,

1500
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: this Russian lawyer, somebody had said hey, there's somebody that

1501
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: has information for you. It's opposition research. And they said,

1502
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: well this you know, when that finally came out, when

1503
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 1: it finally came out that he had met with her,

1504
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: they said, well, this is an opposition research, this is collusion.

1505
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden they're caught, they're cut.

1506
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: They had paid the Russians, basically, the DFC and the

1507
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: Hillary campaign had paid Christopher Stiel. Here's that money to

1508
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: pay members of the FSB. We know that Christopher Stiel

1509
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: used current members of the FSB, which is the Russian

1510
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: secret Agency Clintestine Agency, and he also paid for her

1511
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 1: at this agent. And now all the sudden it's opposition research. Well,

1512
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, but they also in Victoria they lied for

1513
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: a year. They said, I don't we don't know, we

1514
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: don't know, we don't know. And it's only because of

1515
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: investigation pressure from Sarah John Solomon, pressure on on my

1516
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: show and pressure from people like you that finally now

1517
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: people had to admit. She has had to admit, oh yeah,

1518
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 1: we funded that. But it's not collusion in this case,

1519
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: even though it's bought and paid for by Hillary and

1520
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: the DNC that she's running now. In this case, it's

1521
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: only opposition and research that turned out to be nothing

1522
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:41,879
Speaker 1: but salacious lies that were regurgitated and repeated in an effort,

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01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: just like she stole the primary and rigged the primary.

1524
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: To use Donna Brazil's words, she was trying to influence

1525
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: the American people in the general election, and as the

1526
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: fix was in with James Comey, as the exonerates are

1527
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: before an investigation, as the fix was in on the

1528
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: tarmac when Loretta mitt Lynch meets with Bill Clinton, you know,

1529
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: a lot of fixes is in the Clinton world, so

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01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: huge in GPS is an orphan. I'm really sad to say.

1531
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: And if the Republicans in Congress we're doing their job,

1532
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 1: and I hope they do. I hope they know and

1533
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 1: just haven't told us yet. But it cries out Sean

1534
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: for a special counsel. This, this should be gotten to

1535
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:21,520
Speaker 1: the bottom of immediately, because this is criminal activity afoot collusion,

1536
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: and I know I haven't found that crime yet, but

1537
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: this is um misuse of campaign funding. By the way,

1538
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer, and I can tell you I wouldn't

1539
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: have made those expenditures for millions of dollars if I

1540
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 1: don't make expenditures over a thousand dollars without conferring with

1541
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: my client and telling my client exactly what it's going

1542
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: for exactly. All right, where are we? I think this

1543
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: is all now coming to a head. And what's fascinating

1544
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: if you really pay attention, because there are a lot

1545
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: of lies told since Donna Brazil came out, and actually

1546
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: the intercept Glenn Greenwald actually had four specific lies that

1547
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: he picked up on, which really became the narrative. The

1548
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: talking point. One, the Clinton d n C agreement cited

1549
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: by Brazil only applied to the general election, not the primary.

1550
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: That's a lie. Sanders signed the same agreement with the

1551
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 1: d n C that Clinton did. Oh, that's a lie.

1552
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Brazil stupidly thought she could unilaterally remove Clinton as the nominee.

1553
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: That's a lie. Evidence has emerged proving that the content

1554
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: of Wiki League's documents and emails were doctored. Sorry that's

1555
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: a lie to Sarah, Yes, I mean it's it appears

1556
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: to be one lie after another. Briton the doctor are

1557
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: starting to connect people are there's evidence surfacing that needs

1558
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: to be investigated. Let me just go back to Fusion

1559
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: GPS because this is so important. We know that next

1560
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: week Conston is supposed to be testified. You're gonna promove

1561
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 1: his subpoena next week on Tuesday when he goes to

1562
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: testify before the House panel. And they're older, and that's

1563
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 1: totally separate from the documents that they're still seeking. The

1564
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: bank records that apparently will show that Fusion PS possibly

1565
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: has journalists on their payroll and other people on their payroll,

1566
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: and we need to know who those people were. Another

1567
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: thing that service that is completely concerning is this connection

1568
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 1: to this Russian lawyer. This has come back to haunt

1569
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: them because Natalia Belaya, we know, met with Glenn Simpson

1570
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: before she even went to meet with Don j Here.

1571
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: This is this is part of this pattern of behavior.

1572
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: We also know that they were involved in possibly and

1573
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: allegedly lobbying against the Magnitski Act, which punished Russian That

1574
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: was basically they were working for the Kremlin. So when

1575
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 1: you look at all of these dots, you've got to

1576
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: say to yourself, who was colluding with you? If you're

1577
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 1: looking at evidence flat on its face, it looked like

1578
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: the Democrats had money, more connection to the Kremlin and

1579
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: to the Russian fusion GPS than anyone at all had

1580
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: in the truck campaign. And this is what to be

1581
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: investigated on victorious, right, a special counsel. I have been

1582
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: talking to people. I was up on the hill today.

1583
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: This is something that they are discussing. They think that

1584
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: it's imperative that there be a special counsel to investigate this,

1585
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: not only this, but uranium one and many other issues.

1586
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: And we also, you know, shy, it's like we almost

1587
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: forgot about annasking, right. No, it's almost like there's so

1588
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: many stories out there that we can't even remember what

1589
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: has been done. Just in this past year. There is

1590
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: still an ongoing investigation into the Weeks leaks that came

1591
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,480
Speaker 1: out that were completely illegal and the enmasking of Americans,

1592
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: which is a huge violation of Fourth Amendment rights. And

1593
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: we know right now that this is something not only

1594
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: that the Senate Intelligence Committee is looking into that the

1595
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: House Intelligence Committee, and they are not backting down from this.

1596
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: There's a long and hard investigation, and I believe there's

1597
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: also an investigation ongoing in the d o J. Now

1598
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: we still have to formally confirm that, but according to

1599
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: sources that I've spoken with, there's a number of investigations

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: only on right now, both in the intellige I don't

1601
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 1: want to end. Well, that go ahead, Victoria. No, I'm

1602
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 1: concerned because Susian Gps, as a lawyer, came out and said, well,

1603
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: finally we've reached an agreement with with the House, and

1604
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: we we get to preserve our privileges. And I'm very

1605
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: concerned about that. First of all, there's a crime fraud

1606
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 1: exception for a privilege. If the people are participating, if

1607
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: the lawyers and the and the participants are in a

1608
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,759
Speaker 1: in a crime, you can't assert the privilege. It's gone.

1609
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: So why are they getting their privileges preserved? All right,

1610
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 1: stay right there, We'll take a break. We'll come back

1611
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 1: more with Sarah Carter, investigative journalists, and Victoria Tunsing is

1612
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 1: the attorney for the FBI informant in the Uranium one case.

1613
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: The House of cards is crumbling right as we continue.

1614
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: Sarah Carter and Victoria Tunsing and we're talking about the

1615
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 1: d o J. One of the things I think, Victoria

1616
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: I have found so frustrating in all of this is

1617
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 1: we've heard Russia Trump, Russia, Russia collusion, collusion. Now we

1618
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: know Hillary paid for phony, sallacious Russian propaganda and lies

1619
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: during the campaign, but she doesn't call that she lied

1620
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: for a year. And then now, oh, that's not collusion.

1621
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: That is just ap research that came directly from Russia

1622
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 1: and Russian operatives that she paid for. And you know,

1623
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching the Department of Justice. I see that

1624
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 1: Comey got what he wanted. He got a special counsel

1625
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,799
Speaker 1: by leaking through his friends of the New York Times.

1626
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: And you've got Uranium one, You've got the email server scandal,

1627
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: You've got literally you know, Robb, they robbed the primary.

1628
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: And why anyone would ever give up of our uranium

1629
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: when in fact we have to import uranium made no sense.

1630
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 1: And I see no special counsel here. That frustrates me. Well,

1631
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm very frustrated. Sarah and I have been calling for

1632
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: this first for several weeks, ever since the Uranian one

1633
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: stories came out, with Sarah and John Solomon, I'll tell

1634
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: you what. This latest information about Usian GPS meeting with

1635
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: the Russian lawyer before and after the meeting with Donald Trump,

1636
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: of course makes all of us consider whether it was

1637
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: a setup. But this is set up so that they

1638
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: because I if I recall the somebody knew about this meeting,

1639
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 1: and people knew to ask for any emails regarding this meeting.

1640
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: So it was it was like it was out there,

1641
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: in other words, sort of deep state leakersh type of thing, right,

1642
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: and and and it. But isn't it odd, Victoria that

1643
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: that that that Fusion GPS meets with the Russian lawyer

1644
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: ahead of time before meeting Don Jr. And meets after

1645
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Don Junior. Doesn't that sound like a set up to you?

1646
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 1: Sounds like a set up to me, I'm That's what

1647
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It sounds like a set up. And then

1648
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 1: they linked it to get get it out there, to

1649
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 1: make fast the meeting. That was the quote unquote collusion,

1650
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 1: which is not a crime, Which is not even a crime.

1651
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 1: Good point. What is the latest with the uranium one, Sarah?

1652
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: Because it to me, you know, the more I learned

1653
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: about it, the more you see, it never made sense

1654
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: to give away one percent of America's uranium. But what's

1655
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: even more nonsensical to me is that we know Robert Mueller,

1656
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: then FBI director, and O nine and are colder than

1657
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 1: the head of the Department of Justice as the attorney general.

1658
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 1: They knew about bribery, extortion, kickbacks, money laundering, and racketeering,

1659
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: and the Vladimir Putin was trying to get into the

1660
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: uranium market and they did nothing. They allowed that deal

1661
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 1: to go through. Anyway, how is that possible, Well, they

1662
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: allowed a deal to go through that Vladimir Putin was

1663
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: adamant about. I mean, he had been adamant about attaining

1664
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 1: uranium globally, I mean and penetrating the US market I

1665
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 1: mean for years, holding the way back in the when

1666
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 1: he was in Kazakhstan with the uranium mining there. So

1667
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: that is something that is incredible. Not only are we

1668
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: talking about the same players right Tony, we're talking about Mulla,

1669
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 1: Rod Rosenstein by Andrew McKay. These are all the same

1670
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: people that were actually aware of this corruption within the

1671
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Russian uranium industry, within their nuclear arm within their nuclear agencies,

1672
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 1: and they said nothing. So where do you go from here?

1673
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think and I know and I know

1674
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: that Victoria will agree with me on this. This is chess.

1675
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: What at the tip of the mountain here, that's the

1676
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,600
Speaker 1: top of the mountain. There is so much more information

1677
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: that are going to be made public. There is so

1678
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: much more information that apparently is going to be classified

1679
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: and be dealt with in a classified setting. That's going

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Speaker 1: to reveal a lot more answers. And at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, we're calling the mountain top special counsel. Last

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Speaker 1: question for Victoria, and I gotta run. Will your client

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Speaker 1: the evidence that he has, the documents, his own experience

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Speaker 1: with as an FBI informant, the emails, the tape recordings.

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Speaker 1: Will this blow this case wide open in your opinion? Well, John,

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Speaker 1: I think the case is blown wide open right now.

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Speaker 1: There's a question. I agree. And all the quote was,

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Speaker 1: you know, was Clinton's pocket. He's just going to put

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Speaker 1: He's going to put meat on it and say here,

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Speaker 1: here it is. It's a solid cake. Well, it's stunned

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Speaker 1: the American people. Well, if if you're not stunned by

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Speaker 1: the sale of Uranian, it's it's unbelievable. All right, Thank

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Speaker 1: you both. You guys are doing an incredible job. All right, Hannity, Tonight,

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Speaker 1: nine Eastern, you do not want to miss. We have

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Speaker 1: two important monologues tonight, Number one allegations and Judge more

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Speaker 1: hit with sexual accusations from thirty eight years ago. We'll

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Speaker 1: have the details, we'll have all the commentary, examine every

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Speaker 1: angle of it. Also, I have a special message for

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Speaker 1: Senator Mitch McConnell and the Senate tonight in Congress tonight

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Speaker 1: that if they don't get their act together, well you'll

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Speaker 1: have to tune in at nine. That's all coming up, Hannity,

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Speaker 1: Fox News. Thanks for being with us, See you tonight

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Speaker 1: at nine. Back here tomorrow. Thanks for being with us.