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<v Speaker 3>this Dan the last three off seasons, maybe even four.

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<v Speaker 3>I would challenge anyone to.

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<v Speaker 4>To tell me I'm wrong that maybe not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think last year they definitely did dominate discussion,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe not in every individual week. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>group together how many TV radio segments of the off

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<v Speaker 3>season we're based upon this one team, you might end

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<v Speaker 3>up agreeing with me in regards to which team has

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<v Speaker 3>been the most discussed in the NFL. And what's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>about this team is it's like the don't exist anymore

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<v Speaker 3>that teams the Cleveland Browns, because if you go back,

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<v Speaker 3>remember and this was several years ago, right, this would

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<v Speaker 3>have been I guess six years ago that they won

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<v Speaker 3>one game between two seasons, and then when they drafted

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<v Speaker 3>Baker mayprol from that point forward, it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like candy to all of us, where there

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<v Speaker 3>was always a Baker or Cleveland Brown's discussion, coaching changes,

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<v Speaker 3>Baker's bravado. Of course you had Cowherd talking about whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not he did too many commercials. Dan has known

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<v Speaker 3>so much of what's going on in Cleveland, and then

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<v Speaker 3>of course you fast forward to the you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>they decided to go after Deshaun Watson and Baker was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of sent out to pasture all of that that was,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the guaranteed contract. Am I wrong to think

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<v Speaker 3>that over the last four or five years preceding this year,

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<v Speaker 3>you could make the case that they were the most

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<v Speaker 3>discussed team in total in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 5>I am in lockstep with you, and I think that

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<v Speaker 5>you could even make a case going back a few

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<v Speaker 5>years prior to that, just because of Manzel in his arrival,

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<v Speaker 5>Like there was always something about the Browns and whether

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<v Speaker 5>it be Manzel, whether it be Baker, whether it be

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<v Speaker 5>just that fan base. In the playoff drought, there was

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<v Speaker 5>always something there and there is something missing, And I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know. I don't know if it's because they won

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<v Speaker 5>that playoff game against the Steelers, you know, a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of years ago, and that ended the drought. But I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think that that's it. I don't think that that

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<v Speaker 5>is the issue that's why we aren't paying attention. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's too easy, that's low hanging fruit because they

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<v Speaker 5>still have a star quarterback.

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<v Speaker 6>On their team.

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<v Speaker 5>But I kind of think it's maybe the star quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>is the reason why we aren't paying attention anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that. I just think we don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to since they're not good and he doesn't appear to

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<v Speaker 3>be nearly as good as he was in Houston or

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<v Speaker 3>his reputation coming out of Houston is it's like, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't even want to deal with it, Like why deal

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<v Speaker 3>with it to where you don't know that there's any

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<v Speaker 3>story that you put out or any discussion that you

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<v Speaker 3>have that you don't mention to Shawn Watson's, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>off the field antics from when he was in Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll get people they're like, well, why are you not

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<v Speaker 3>talking about that. On the other hand, if you do

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it, it doesn't feel like it fits because

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<v Speaker 3>it was years ago, right, It just and then you

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<v Speaker 3>factored like, well, what do we really do we need

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about a team that one four game last

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<v Speaker 3>year that doesn't appear. I just it's Jay Stu, Why

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<v Speaker 3>do you think they've fallen off the storyline map?

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<v Speaker 7>I think that what you just referred to. I think

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<v Speaker 7>there is just some there's creepiness and weirdness to this

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<v Speaker 7>to sean thing, and I think it's still there. So

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<v Speaker 7>on a national level, it is hard for people to

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<v Speaker 7>get into this team and break down the x's and

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<v Speaker 7>o's without sounding either insensitive to that or if you

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<v Speaker 7>cover it, it's a big downer. And how about this,

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<v Speaker 7>what at least three or four quarterbacks have signed huge

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<v Speaker 7>deals since that contract? What Jalen Hurts and Lamar and

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<v Speaker 7>Justin Herbert, none of them have come close to that

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<v Speaker 7>guaranteed money. And I think that makes it an even

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<v Speaker 7>bigger ice sore. And how foolish the Browns are and

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<v Speaker 7>how irresponsible they are, so all this stuff are there

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<v Speaker 7>aren't a lot of great things to discuss when it

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<v Speaker 7>comes to their quarterback, so I guess we we choose

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<v Speaker 7>not to discuss them at all.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a fascinating thing, though, And how the

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm actually watching Living on ESPN. They're actually

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Deshaun Watson. I just you know, we go

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<v Speaker 3>around the league and this is, without any question, the

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<v Speaker 3>most covered league. And if it's it's it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just because of the popularity numbers in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of watching the games. But I mean, Dan Biro will

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<v Speaker 3>tell you he's got his you know is I want

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<v Speaker 3>your flex podcast right where it's the fantasy football element

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<v Speaker 3>to it. The gambling element to it, and every major

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<v Speaker 3>network is now covering it. I mean, you want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the proliferation of sports on TV, how about

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL being on ESPN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, and

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<v Speaker 3>now you know, digitally on Amazon as well. And the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL network. That's seven networks covering it. And YouTube TV,

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<v Speaker 3>which it's not really a network, but it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, it's like the sports scrid of things

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<v Speaker 3>where you can get a little everything, and so we're

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<v Speaker 3>always looking for stories. And there are teams, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time. We'll talk a little bit later

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<v Speaker 3>about the Chargers where they for a long time they've

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of existed in anonymity, be in San Diego

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<v Speaker 3>or when they're playing in Carson. Now not so much so.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's really fascinating to see the Browns go from

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<v Speaker 3>the talk of the league, or at least of the

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<v Speaker 3>media that covers the league to just a team.

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<v Speaker 5>There is also something at play here, Doug, because I

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<v Speaker 5>think that Cleveland is unique, not entirely unique. I think

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<v Speaker 5>that there are other NFL markets that are similar to it,

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<v Speaker 5>but not many. And one of the markets I feel

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<v Speaker 5>that a similar as Detroit and look at how much

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<v Speaker 5>love the Lions are getting on a season where we

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<v Speaker 5>expect great things. And the reason that I bring it

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<v Speaker 5>up is with the Browns, we followed them when there

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<v Speaker 5>was dysfunction, as you mentioned, We followed them in the

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<v Speaker 5>seasons where they won one game in those combined two seasons,

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<v Speaker 5>and then we followed them as Baker Mayfield was leading

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<v Speaker 5>them towards five hundred, and then we followed them to

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<v Speaker 5>the playoffs, and I mentioned that win against the Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 5>Steelers and then guess what they fell from that. We

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<v Speaker 5>were still kind of following that. Then Deshaun Watson becomes

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<v Speaker 5>available and it's done over with, and the feel good

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<v Speaker 5>story at the Lions permeates throughout the NFL. And I

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<v Speaker 5>feel that the Browns were that that drama.

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<v Speaker 6>With the up and down.

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<v Speaker 5>They were the you know, maybe you know the city

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<v Speaker 5>that people don't necessarily love, but you can understand how

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<v Speaker 5>much the fan base loves their team, and there was

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<v Speaker 5>something about that. And I love Cleveland by the way,

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<v Speaker 5>I think Cleveland's a great city, but there was something

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<v Speaker 5>about that and now it's all gone, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's just because of the signing of DeShawn Watson.

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<v Speaker 3>You really love Cleveland? Do you really love Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 6>I do enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been to Cleveland multiple times, sometime, once for the

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<v Speaker 5>NBA Finals, once on my own vacation. Yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 5>to Cleveland three or four times.

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<v Speaker 6>I enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been to Cleveland. I'd like Cleveland. I can't say

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<v Speaker 3>that it was it's any spot. I'm like, man, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the this is the place. Although you know, I've

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<v Speaker 3>ali the forest I used to used to work with.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a superstar w with. She grew up on the lake,

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<v Speaker 3>but just outside of Cleveland. She swears by it. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no I no hatred for Cleveland. I just

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<v Speaker 3>can't say that it would be one. They're like, man, I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>A Midwest guy, so there's you know, ties to that obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>So sure, but in the Midwest city rankings, where would

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<v Speaker 3>that be.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it wouldn't be one. But I think that people

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<v Speaker 5>would say that. I think on the surface, if you

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<v Speaker 5>haven't been or aren't from there, you would think that

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<v Speaker 5>it's towards the bottom.

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<v Speaker 6>And I really enjoyed Cleveland. Yeah, there's something about it.

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<v Speaker 3>What were we gonna say that, ramost Well, I was going.

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<v Speaker 8>To say that we had a discussion earlier, not today,

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<v Speaker 8>but in earlier shows about teams that are indifferent, and

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<v Speaker 8>I always felt like the Cleveland Browns are one of

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<v Speaker 8>those teams. Like nobody really hated the Cleveland Browns and

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<v Speaker 8>more people I love them. There wasn't like this, like

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<v Speaker 8>if they went to the super Bowl, there wasn't going

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<v Speaker 8>to be this backlash, like, ah, I can't stand there.

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<v Speaker 8>I hope they lose, like people are like a Cleveland

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<v Speaker 8>Wind's cool. But now I agree with Dan that I

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<v Speaker 8>think people have a dislike now for them, and it's

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<v Speaker 8>almost like selling your soul to the devil kind of deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Outside of a Bengals or Steelers fan, like I feel

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<v Speaker 5>that the Titans are like indifferent, you know. And again

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<v Speaker 5>you know, AFC South teams may feel different. Jaguar's a

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<v Speaker 5>bit like that. But outside of like the Pittsburgh fans

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<v Speaker 5>and the Cincinnati fans and the Ravens fans in that division,

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<v Speaker 5>I think that people would have cheered for Cleveland in

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<v Speaker 5>the super Bowl if their team wasn't in the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that they would have had the backing They've

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<v Speaker 5>got the Super Bowl drought, the drive, the fumble, all

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<v Speaker 5>of that narrative going to it. I think people rally

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<v Speaker 5>behind that hoping that they win. Maybe that's the other

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<v Speaker 5>parallel with Detroit of getting to a super Bowl, not

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<v Speaker 5>winning that world championship in so long. But there's just

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<v Speaker 5>no there's not even a buzz about them at all.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's just it's almost like they don't even exist

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<v Speaker 5>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, weird that That was really my point. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like look around and there's there's just nothing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just nothing, And it is fascinating to see on how

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<v Speaker 3>I guess one player has done it. But let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean a good portion of it is that they

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<v Speaker 3>weren't any good. But I do think it's like we

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<v Speaker 3>would just rather not talk about them than have to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of dig through a way to talk about them.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of Deshaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and they're not devoid of star players. With Watson,

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<v Speaker 5>with Nick Chubb, with the Marii Cooper, with Miles Garrett,

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<v Speaker 5>there's yeah, like there's enough there to make you interested.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just think that then it just naturally happens.

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<v Speaker 5>People just don't want to deal with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy stuff, crazy stuff. Doug Gottliebin for Dan The Dan

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<v Speaker 3>ets along with my guys Dan Byer, of course, Jason

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<v Speaker 3>Stewart and John Ramos. It's Dan Patrick Show here on

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<v Speaker 3>Fox Sports Radio. We've got a great next I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes for you. We'll do some baseball first, some

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<v Speaker 3>college football second, and look major league go ahead. I'm sorry, Dan, Okay. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>the the idea of having a having an umpire, or

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<v Speaker 3>taking away the umpire and have having it basically called

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<v Speaker 3>by computer or a robot or you know this. The

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<v Speaker 3>idea of not having a living human being calling balls

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<v Speaker 3>and strikes is getting. We're getting it feels like closer

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<v Speaker 3>and closer. We got AI technology, which anybody who has

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<v Speaker 3>kids knows kids use it to write their papers. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just fascinating on what actual baseball players think of the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of having some form of robot umpire. Let's walk

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<v Speaker 3>went Matt Holliday. Of course, the seven time All Star,

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<v Speaker 3>four time Silver Slugger, should be noted that his son, Jackson,

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<v Speaker 3>is the number one prospect in Minor League baseball for

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<v Speaker 3>being the number one pick of the Orioles in the

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<v Speaker 3>Minor league draft, in the in the in the amateur draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Going back to last year, Matt Good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you on umpires as opposed to the robots

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<v Speaker 3>in New York calling balls and strikes?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I think that I think, you know, Triple A

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<v Speaker 9>has the challenge where they can challenge and I don't

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<v Speaker 9>know what the exact rules are how often you can

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<v Speaker 9>challenge it, but I at least like the idea that

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<v Speaker 9>a hitter get gets the opportunity to challenge the balls

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<v Speaker 9>and strikes. They did it at the Futures game. It

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<v Speaker 9>was the first time I had seen it in person,

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<v Speaker 9>and it was a pretty cool deal where you know

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<v Speaker 9>that the hitter steps out challenges and then they go

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<v Speaker 9>to the to the JumboTron in the outfield and it

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<v Speaker 9>shows this technology where almost like kind of like tennis,

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<v Speaker 9>where it shows the ball coming through and then you

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<v Speaker 9>know it's a ball instead of a strike or a

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<v Speaker 9>strike instead of a ball, and then you know that's

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<v Speaker 9>the result. So I don't know if I'm in favor

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<v Speaker 9>of completely going to uh, you know, sort of this

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<v Speaker 9>just umpires standing there relaying the information they're getting from

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<v Speaker 9>the technology. But I think that the hitter having an

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<v Speaker 9>opportunity to challenge one pitch that bat or I don't

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<v Speaker 9>know exactly you know, how much or what the rule

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<v Speaker 9>should be. But I do like the idea in a

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<v Speaker 9>big spot, if if an umpire gets carried away with

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<v Speaker 9>the emotions of the game, or you know, you have

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<v Speaker 9>an umpire that's that's struggling that night and not not

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<v Speaker 9>doing a very good job, and it's a big call

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<v Speaker 9>and it's a you know, it's a strike three or

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<v Speaker 9>a pitch that's a big point in the game that's

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<v Speaker 9>going to impact the outcome of the game that you

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<v Speaker 9>have a chance to go to a to a you know,

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<v Speaker 9>and what however you want to phrase it, a computer

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<v Speaker 9>or something that that's totally doesn't have you know, take

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<v Speaker 9>the emotion out of the game, and it just kind

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<v Speaker 9>of is what it is. So I'm you know, as

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<v Speaker 9>a hitter, I like to be right, particularly in and out.

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<v Speaker 9>I understand that some of the technology might cause you know,

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<v Speaker 9>some high strikes or some low strikes, maybe some breaking

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<v Speaker 9>balls that end up almost in the dirt, catching the

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<v Speaker 9>bottom half of the strike zone, but I'm okay with

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<v Speaker 9>that if you get to the in and out right,

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<v Speaker 9>those are the ones it's really hard as the hitter

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<v Speaker 9>to cover off the plate both the way and inside

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<v Speaker 9>at times the umpires gives. So I am in favor

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<v Speaker 9>of some sort of technology.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess that The fear is that it turns

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<v Speaker 3>into football, where you know, football replay as good as

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<v Speaker 3>it is and as many games as it's changed and

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<v Speaker 3>bad calls as it's saved, we have reached the point where,

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<v Speaker 3>even in a game winning touchdown we got it, we

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<v Speaker 3>can't just like celebrate organically hold on, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>wait to.

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<v Speaker 4>See if that one right.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes away some of the organic nature to it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't want that. In addition to which, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and again I know I obviously didn't

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<v Speaker 3>play it nearly at your level, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of the the cool thing about baseball has always

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<v Speaker 3>been that no park is uniform, right, so everybody has

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<v Speaker 3>their own park rules, and no umpire's strike zone is uniform.

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<v Speaker 4>So this guy likes the low ones. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of think that's the beauty to it is

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<v Speaker 3>the human factor, and I fear that we're taking the

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<v Speaker 3>human factor out of it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I see that, but I mean, then there's the

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<v Speaker 9>idea of hitting ninety seven on our fastballs with this

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<v Speaker 9>umpire like likes the outside off the outside corner. That's

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<v Speaker 9>great that he likes that. That doesn't make it, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>easy to hit or even possible to hit. So I

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<v Speaker 9>don't know. I think that if we have the technology

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<v Speaker 9>to get the balls and strikes right, I don't see

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<v Speaker 9>why we don't use it. So, you know, I, like

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<v Speaker 9>I said, I I'm okay with with the current situation.

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<v Speaker 9>But as a hitter, there's nothing more maddening than having

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<v Speaker 9>counts changed in the pitcher's favor because you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>when we have technology, when when you get the beginnings

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<v Speaker 9>from a goes from a you know, sort of a

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<v Speaker 9>two to one count, I'm in a good spot to

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<v Speaker 9>a one two count because he misses a pitch that's

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<v Speaker 9>clearly off the plate. So I have respect for umpires.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a hard job, and I think that all in all,

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<v Speaker 9>they do a really really good job. But if we

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<v Speaker 9>get to the point where it's quick to have you know,

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<v Speaker 9>very very accurate balls and strikes, and then I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 9>good with getting it right over tradition, you know, in

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<v Speaker 9>this in this situation, because it doesn't take long, unlike

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<v Speaker 9>replay in the NFL, you have to run over and

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<v Speaker 9>get under the hood and somebody you know could take

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<v Speaker 9>us to a few minutes to check it. This is

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<v Speaker 9>this is instant notification of of what's you know, a

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<v Speaker 9>ball or stright.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you fix the Yankees?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you know, I think at this point they've gotten

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<v Speaker 9>a little bit old. They're they're hurt, they're banged up.

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<v Speaker 9>A lot of their pictures are hurt guys that they've

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<v Speaker 9>counted on, uh to to to really carry. Uh the

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<v Speaker 9>rotation has been has been kind of a mess.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>So you know sometimes uh, you know, obviously having a

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<v Speaker 9>ton of money and being able to go out in

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<v Speaker 9>the free agent market and and buy essentially, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>whoever you want is a great thing, but you have

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<v Speaker 9>to have you have to have an influx of young talent, uh,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, coming and being able to supplement free agents

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<v Speaker 9>as opposed to rely on free agents. So uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I think sometimes you just can't help injuries, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>and and sometimes a guy like you know, Stan who

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<v Speaker 9>uh you know, at one point was a you know,

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<v Speaker 9>an elite player and a great athlete. You know, injuries

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<v Speaker 9>have taken his toll on him. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>Rizzo's has a hit for power this year and and

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<v Speaker 9>he's had some injuries, and so I think you just

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<v Speaker 9>have to be careful of of having too many older

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<v Speaker 9>players that that are uh somewhat injury prone or or

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<v Speaker 9>starting ahead and that you know, sort of down part

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<v Speaker 9>of their career where and then it really tests your

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<v Speaker 9>depth of how good your young your young players are

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<v Speaker 9>and they just haven't performed maybe to what they thought.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think it's been kind of a culmination of

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<v Speaker 9>of a lot of things going wrong uh this year.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know there's several teams have had that. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>you had the Mets and the Padres and the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 9>all also you know, coming into this season, we all

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<v Speaker 9>would have would have guessed with you know, with the

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<v Speaker 9>new with an extra playoff spot, that all those teams

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<v Speaker 9>would have been probably right in the middle of of playoffs.

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<v Speaker 9>But you know, it looks like none of them will

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<v Speaker 9>will be in so uh, it's they all can be

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<v Speaker 9>weird like that where you know, a couple of key

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<v Speaker 9>injuries and you know, a couple of guys have down

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<v Speaker 9>years and next thing you know, uh, you know, it

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<v Speaker 9>can look really bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, are they built for the past era?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>How much of it is injuries, but how much of

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<v Speaker 3>it is like, look, baseball has dramatically changed you and

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about this in person, talked a bit on

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<v Speaker 3>about on my show, which is now athleticism are now

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<v Speaker 3>a priority on the base pass, it's a priority you have.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to be able to cover your position, can't

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<v Speaker 3>hide you with the shift, right, and uh, it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like it's it's a different sport, and so the constructive

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<v Speaker 3>teams has to be different and these teams are just

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<v Speaker 3>slow to adjust to everything that's changed within this season.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean that's definitely a good point. I do

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<v Speaker 9>think that sometimes you're you know, you're sort of tied

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<v Speaker 9>to contracts, right, so you're you're tied into some some

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<v Speaker 9>contracts that that that you've already signed, you know, sort

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<v Speaker 9>of pre shift and pre you know, looking at the

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<v Speaker 9>game a little bit differently with with athleticism. But I

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<v Speaker 9>do think you're right in that it is it is

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<v Speaker 9>a more athletic game. I think, you know, the ability

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<v Speaker 9>to manufacture runs and you know, to do things a

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<v Speaker 9>little different. It's coming back around, uh, you know to

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<v Speaker 9>where we had gotten to the point where it was

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<v Speaker 9>sort of everybody just wanted, you know, home run hitters

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<v Speaker 9>and guys that walk and you know, play play that,

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<v Speaker 9>and and now it looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we lose them or is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Me?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? With with with with us, Matt, We'll get them

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<v Speaker 3>back in one second. This is the Dan Patrick Show

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<v Speaker 3>here on Fox Sports Radio. Matt Holidays, our guest, seven

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<v Speaker 3>time All Star, four time Silver Suckers, were discussing things

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<v Speaker 3>in Major League Baseball. I do with there is there is, Matt,

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<v Speaker 3>let me let me, let me, let me have with

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<v Speaker 3>us the Dodgers of one ten to row. Now I

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<v Speaker 3>think we can all say, hey, the Braves are the

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<v Speaker 3>best team in baseball and and be okay with that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was it felt like like a transition year

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<v Speaker 3>for the Dodgers, so they really didn't do much. Fix

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<v Speaker 3>the bullpen, fixed the rotation, everybody thinks they're going after

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<v Speaker 3>show hey, and then got to fix things next year.

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<v Speaker 3>But now you're sitting at seventy three and forty six

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<v Speaker 3>winners of ten games in row. How much of this

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<v Speaker 3>is real and how much of this is just a heater?

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<v Speaker 9>I think they're good. I mean, I think they're you know,

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<v Speaker 9>they still have a lot of great players. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>they have two of the best players in the league

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<v Speaker 9>with Rookie Betts and and Freddie Freeman. They still have

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<v Speaker 9>Clayton Kershaw, who when he healthy is is pitching like

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<v Speaker 9>he you know, peak Clayton Kershaw. They still have They

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<v Speaker 9>They've done an incredible job despite picking later in the

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<v Speaker 9>first round, you know, and then not having a ton

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<v Speaker 9>of high drafts, of developing a lot of really good

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<v Speaker 9>young players and a lot of impact pitchers. So when

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<v Speaker 9>they go to their farm system, it seems like the

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<v Speaker 9>guys they bring up come up with and have an impact.

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<v Speaker 9>And so they have some they have some sneaky, sneaky

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<v Speaker 9>good players and like Will Myth and and some of

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<v Speaker 9>these guys that you know out on the West coast

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<v Speaker 9>maybe don't get the love that they would if they

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<v Speaker 9>played on the East Coast. So I think they they

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<v Speaker 9>they just continue to be good and roll out, uh

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<v Speaker 9>you know, vision winning seasons and and so uh, I

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<v Speaker 9>think they're good. I mean, I just they have experienced

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of their their their their players, their their

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<v Speaker 9>veteran players have won the World Series, and I just think,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, they're they're they're gonna be tough out and

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<v Speaker 9>and uh and I think that they they play well

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<v Speaker 9>at home it's a very tough place to go in

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<v Speaker 9>and win, a Dodger stadium. So I definitely think that

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<v Speaker 9>that they might be flying under the radar a little

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<v Speaker 9>bit with with the way as good as the Braves

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<v Speaker 9>have played, But I think the Dodgers are and they're

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<v Speaker 9>going to be right in the middle of of of

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<v Speaker 9>the National League when it comes to payoff time.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome stuff, many thanks so much for joining us, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>have a great day. Good looking at whatever pickleball your

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<v Speaker 3>game you're playing in today, and we'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, all right, thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Holiday pickleball All American burgeoning prickleball star who also played

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen years in the major leagues and was the seven

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<v Speaker 3>time All Star and four time Silver slug.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, I wanted to start with and for people who

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, Okay, so my show is daily three to

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<v Speaker 3>five Eastern time on Fox Sports Radio, Foxportsrade dot com, Iheartapp,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course we have an hour live podcast that's

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<v Speaker 3>from five to six. You pick it up whatever, but

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<v Speaker 3>we do it, you know, in the third hour of

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<v Speaker 3>the show, Dan of course part of that show, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Dan has his own show on weekends, Busy has

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<v Speaker 3>his own I Want Your Flex podcast, which I would

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<v Speaker 3>encourage you to download because it'll get you ready for

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<v Speaker 3>this upcoming NFL season. But I want to start with

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<v Speaker 3>the Michael orr story only in that. Look, there's all

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of little stories we can get to, right brock

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<v Speaker 3>Perdy Throws has thrown ten camp interceptions. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if we care about that or the Trey Lance that

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<v Speaker 3>they even want him in San Francisco. We could get

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<v Speaker 3>to the abject disaster, which is the Eric b enemy relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now with the Washington Commanders, there's only one quasi

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<v Speaker 3>hold out, it's Josh Jacobs, but you feel like he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to show up right before the first week of

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<v Speaker 3>the season and then play on that franchise tag because

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't really have any options. There's lots of little

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<v Speaker 3>stories we could get to. But this is a story

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<v Speaker 3>that it Jase dou I thought you said it best right.

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<v Speaker 3>It crosses. There's so many different elements to it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think the overarching thing is and this is

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<v Speaker 3>This is kind of where we are as a society. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so stick with me for a second. In my lifetime,

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<v Speaker 3>there's you know, ten of these sorts of stories. A

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<v Speaker 3>guy from nothing, Jimmy Butler was one homeless right now,

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<v Speaker 3>he's Jimmy Buckets Kurr owner was stocking shelves at a

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<v Speaker 3>grocery store while playing in Europe and Arena League or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and then becomes the NFL's MVP and a Hall of

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<v Speaker 3>Fame quarterback. There are we, by the way, we never

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<v Speaker 3>do riches to riches. No one ever grew up with money.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's are like man, I grew up, I had

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<v Speaker 3>no issues, three car garage and oh yeah, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I made it everybody, it's rags riches, But these top

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<v Speaker 3>them all in the changing someone's life through helping by

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<v Speaker 3>by helping from a family. There's so many elements to it. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>This is in Memphis, Tennessee. And you have white family,

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<v Speaker 3>black athlete. You have kid comes from no means and

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<v Speaker 3>mom with personal issues to a solid stable family that

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<v Speaker 3>it become literally became what we would call again. This

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<v Speaker 3>is child of the eighties. It's an afternoon special. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember we used to what days were those on guys

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<v Speaker 3>where you get home, there's an afternoon school special.

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<v Speaker 6>And they're all for They were never on Fridays.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like Wednesday. I felt like Wednesday was the

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<v Speaker 3>after school special. Right. And maybe now you say, what's

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<v Speaker 3>a lifetime movie, But this was a real movie because

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<v Speaker 3>we were told it's ay real story, because it's a

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<v Speaker 3>real book, and you take all the other elements to it,

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<v Speaker 3>and to start the week, you felt like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>this family's taken kid to us, taking advantage of this kid,

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<v Speaker 3>like this is terrible. The entire story appeared to be

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<v Speaker 3>fraudulent because based upon one lawsuit, there are allegations that

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<v Speaker 3>they fleeced him. They literally exploited his name image like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, now as the other side of the story

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<v Speaker 3>comes out and other pieces come out, the most recent part, Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know you know this. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else has been paying attention because I just this story.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I can't get enough of but

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to see it play out before I

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<v Speaker 3>make some true determination into what and who I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>The latest is that the Towey family doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be to have a conservative ship anymore, And of course

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<v Speaker 3>the lawyer came out with some stinging barbs going back

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<v Speaker 3>two days ago, and Michael Lewis, who of course was

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<v Speaker 3>the author and then help write the movie. Michael Lewis

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<v Speaker 3>has come out and said, look, this is a Hollywood thing,

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<v Speaker 3>essentially saying it's a bad contract and Hollywood made three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred million and these people only made three hundred grand,

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<v Speaker 3>which they split up evenly amongst everybody. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a fascinating story. Dan, You and I we

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<v Speaker 3>work together every day, but we haven't because you've been

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<v Speaker 3>filling in for Coveno and rich who've been filling in

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<v Speaker 3>for Dan? Where are you on this whole?

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<v Speaker 6>You did a complete one eighty. If you would have

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<v Speaker 6>talked to me on Monday, I would have been like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 6>how dare they do this? To Michael Lore? Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 6>dare they do this?

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty four hours later, I'm like, this is bogus And

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<v Speaker 5>the reason is just because it just felt who had

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<v Speaker 5>the most to gain in all of this. And then

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<v Speaker 5>I found out that Michael law has got a book

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<v Speaker 5>out or coming out or is out, and had been

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<v Speaker 5>making some of the media rounds with some of this,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I thought, Doug, to myself, how in the

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<v Speaker 5>world could this family have imagined that this story would

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<v Speaker 5>be not only turned into a movie, but make the

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<v Speaker 5>what three hundred million dollars that you said that it

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<v Speaker 5>ended up making that would lead to Sandra Bullock winning

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<v Speaker 5>an oscar. For there was no possible way that that

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<v Speaker 5>family could have known that or had this been the

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<v Speaker 5>plan for it to work out for them to then

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<v Speaker 5>want to screw Michael lare Over and not give them

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<v Speaker 5>any money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just we do this all the time though, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not I'm not saying just you. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>it in real time with so many people in the media.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what becomes of the Brett Favre story,

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<v Speaker 3>but remember there was a good week last year during

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<v Speaker 3>football season where Brett Farr was the worst human being

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<v Speaker 3>on earth. Now, I don't think that some of the

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<v Speaker 3>ways in which he went about trying to raise money

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<v Speaker 3>for the facilities at Southern Miss were perfect. But I

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<v Speaker 3>also think that as more and more evidence comes out,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't appear that there's any sort of way in

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<v Speaker 3>which he thought, Okay, they're going to use welfare money. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one thing to call somebody who's got a grant

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<v Speaker 3>who's sitting on cash, and go like, hey, man, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't donate to my school. This has really helped me out.

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<v Speaker 3>This really help us out. It's a whole other thing

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<v Speaker 3>to say, like, could you use the money meant for

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<v Speaker 3>welfare recipients in the poorest state in the Union. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>take food literally out of mothers and fathers and brothers

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<v Speaker 3>and sisters hands and put it into a volleyball facility. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a difference there, and I get it. I like,

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<v Speaker 3>when salacious accusations come out, it's like it's like cocaine

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<v Speaker 3>to all of us in the media. We're like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my gosh, we gotta but we do it all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, now when it comes out, I look, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I

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<v Speaker 3>did think it was a little much. Now Here's where

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<v Speaker 3>I knew there was something up for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Is I think all of us on some level have

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<v Speaker 3>had Michael Oron back when he was a young burgeoning

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<v Speaker 3>we thought would be Starr in the NFL, and because

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<v Speaker 3>we knew the story. But I don't think he's ever

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<v Speaker 3>spoken about it. Because every time I've ever had him

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<v Speaker 3>on or asked to have him on. I've gotten the Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>look you can have him on. He's great, but you

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<v Speaker 3>can't talk about the He doesn't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the blindside. He want to talk about how his race.

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<v Speaker 3>What were you saying, Jase? Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>There's one exception member. When he wrote his first book,

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<v Speaker 7>I think it was twenty eleven, he did a media

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<v Speaker 7>tour and that was I think it was called Against

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<v Speaker 7>All Odds or something like that, or maybe I'm confusing

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<v Speaker 7>it with a Phil Collin Sombe maybe, But he did

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<v Speaker 7>address a lot of this. He wanted to kind of

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<v Speaker 7>set straight the record from his actual story to the

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<v Speaker 7>story in the movie. I just don't think he went

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<v Speaker 7>this hard at the family back then.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there's obviously, I mean, this is is this one

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<v Speaker 3>that we're coming back from, right, Like, there's this one's

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<v Speaker 3>a it's going to be hard to rebuild any sort

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<v Speaker 3>of relationship there, right, Hey, listen, I know I accused

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<v Speaker 3>you of stealing fifteen million dollars from me. But we're

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<v Speaker 3>good now, right, I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, on the surface, it does sound like that, but

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<v Speaker 5>if this, if the family dynamic was the same in

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<v Speaker 5>both ways. I think you'd be surprised at what could heal.

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<v Speaker 5>As crazy as it sounds like accusations, if you know

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<v Speaker 5>one of us did it to the other person, there

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<v Speaker 5>would be no relationship, even though we work closely together.

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<v Speaker 5>But if this is supposed to be the family unit

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<v Speaker 5>that and it works for both sides, maybe the Twoy

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<v Speaker 5>family feels one way and or obviously feels the other way.

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<v Speaker 5>But if if that is still there, I think that

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<v Speaker 5>there could be amending, no matter how horrendous this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting you point that out because I would agree

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<v Speaker 3>with you. I do think that all relationships when they're based,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when you dig through all the gobblygook, right

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<v Speaker 3>you go through I mean, obviously you'd have to go

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<v Speaker 3>through a lot of therapy, you know. I still think

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably a tremendous amount of love. And you know

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<v Speaker 3>what happens is people stop talking and I'm like, again,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm totally guessing from thirty thousand feet here, sure, but

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<v Speaker 3>you're guessing that. Here's Michael Orr who is on a

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<v Speaker 3>trajectory to success, to making one hundred million dollars. His

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<v Speaker 3>NFL career didn't work out right, and now he starts

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<v Speaker 3>looking through things and people saying like, bro, you made

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<v Speaker 3>how much from that movie? You made? What? Excuse me?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? And you know, you get around people who

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<v Speaker 3>continue to kind of stoke that fire and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>actually sit down and have conversations with it. It's no

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<v Speaker 3>different than any sort of marriage breakdown or family breakdown.

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<v Speaker 3>When you stop talking, you start making up the stories

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<v Speaker 3>in your head and you start taking stippets of what

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<v Speaker 3>other people say to you, and you create a narrative

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<v Speaker 3>of your own. And there there is definitely a room

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<v Speaker 3>room for redemption, especially if there's if there if it

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<v Speaker 3>truly is kind of based upon you know, love and

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<v Speaker 3>appreciation for each other. I just we're not close to

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<v Speaker 3>that point right now, right because yeah, because it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like my core is like yeah, hey, my bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's way off, way off in the distance. And

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<v Speaker 5>I also find an interesting, Doug from what you said

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<v Speaker 5>at the outset of the show, specifically with this show

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<v Speaker 5>that we are currently sitting in, uh, sitting in for

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<v Speaker 5>the guys for the Dan Patrick Show, and what is

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<v Speaker 5>the conversation about Rudy and what Joe Montana said about

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<v Speaker 5>the movie Rudy. Nobody wants to believe it. Nobody wants

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<v Speaker 5>to believe that this great blind Side story didn't actually

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<v Speaker 5>turn out like this or actually wasn't like this. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's the part that like, if we found out that

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<v Speaker 5>in Hoosiers, you know, Jimmy doesn't make the shot, if that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, didn't happen and it was a fictional story,

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 5>we'd be like, oh, it's kind of a letdown. But

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 5>then we feel like, hey, this did happen. It's happened

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 5>at Mile in high school in the nineteen fifties. This

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 5>actually happened. There's something that is tied to it. And

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<v Speaker 5>so now to have this I feel that there's a

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 5>different emotional reaction because you want to believe it's true.

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, how many years ago to Joe Montana try

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<v Speaker 5>to shoot down the rudy you know script on this

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<v Speaker 5>show and the guys still talk about it. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's a part of this as well. And why

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<v Speaker 5>for everything that you said at the outset of why

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<v Speaker 5>it still affects us right now is because the story

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<v Speaker 5>was so good. I don't know if it's you know,

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<v Speaker 5>too good to be true, but we don't want it

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<v Speaker 5>to not be.

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<v Speaker 3>That story is the Kurt Warner, the only story that's

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<v Speaker 3>too good to be true that really is right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that one's pretty amazing if you really kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get down to it, Like he he goes from

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<v Speaker 3>Arena League and then playing in Europe and really the

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<v Speaker 3>third string quarterback with the rams store the grocery store thing, yea,

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<v Speaker 3>to the greatest show on turf and then oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, the other element to it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he with the bad was a finger or hand. When

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<v Speaker 3>he was in New York, they couldn't play him, like

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<v Speaker 3>he went, this was my thing. Kurt's a friend and

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<v Speaker 3>he's an awesome, awesome dude. And by the way, like

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how many people know this, He's got

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 3>a gym at his house and so he always has

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 3>people over to play like four on four. It's like

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>it's got like three quarter court length. And you always

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 3>want to be on Kurts team because he does make

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 3>every call and makes a lot of shots, but he

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 3>get in the calls anyway. But like his Hall of

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Fame resume was hard because he had like four years

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.280
<v Speaker 3>where he's arguably or inarguably the best quarterback in the league,

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 3>but he had like five years where he couldn't really

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 3>play like he was bad and he was a backup,

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 3>like within the context of his that's not even taking

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 3>into account how he made the league, et cetera. But

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 3>he The thing about Kurt is like he made it

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 3>from nowhere, then lost it, then was a backup, then

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 3>made it again in Arizona like it's crazy and it's

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 3>one of those like there's no way it's too good

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 3>to be true, and it's not. But the Ore story

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>does appear to be, at least on some level, too

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 3>good to be true. I just wish we could kind

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 3>of like you guys, ever seen Mystery Science Theater three.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 6>Thousand long time ago?

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 3>But yes, okay, so Mystery to Jaseu, you didn't say anything,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 3>so you've never.

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 7>Said no I remember. It's kind of and then cheap

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.879
<v Speaker 7>seats came after it kind of ripped it off right.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Right, and it's basically, you know, you had the idea,

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 3>was these this guy and a robot and was there

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 3>like a dog or something I can't remember. But they're

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 3>stuck in space and so they have to watch these

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.919
<v Speaker 3>terrible B movies because the only thing that they have,

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 3>and they just make smart ass comments the entire time right,

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 3>or I just wish we had like Michael Orr while

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 3>that movie's being played and say like, well, here's what

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>really happened. Yeah, that's not really how it took place.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that. That may be a bummer too,

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 3>So I'm not sure. Okay, so Dan's done a one eighty.

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 3>Where are you Jay stuw on this story? Who do

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 3>you believe? As of Thursday, August seventeenth.

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 7>It sure doesn't look good for Michael Orr's side of

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 7>the story. And I think when the receipts come out,

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 7>I think the family's probably going to come out looking

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 7>like they didn't do a whole lot wrong here. I

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 7>think that's sad. Though rich Ornberger was in for you

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 7>earlier in the week and he had said something along

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 7>the lines of this is sad regardless because if this

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 7>is a pure money play, that means Michael probably went

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 7>through all of his money, which is sad because you

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.240
<v Speaker 7>can't spend that money. That that means you've got bad advice,

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 7>financial advice, and uh, he wouldn't be the first nor

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 7>the last, but the whole thing just stinks. I think

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 7>I was at that phase on Monday, and I'm still

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 7>at that phase Uh, but yeah, that's that's kind of

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 7>where it's it's it seems to be leaning towards the family.

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 7>But I think we'll we'll reserve all final opinions.

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh, John Ramos, how about you?

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 8>I just think I agree with Jason. I just think

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 8>it's sad. It's sad. That's something that was so powerful,

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 8>you know, winning Center, Bullock, an Oscar and just kind

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 8>of being a good, feel good story has come to

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 8>this level right now?

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 6>Is it sad? Or is it too bad? Is there

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 6>our levels?

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 5>Right, like like that's too bad, I'll go, but.

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna go.

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna I'm gonna go with that's too bad.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 3>That's too bad. It's sad.

0:39:58.840 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 7>I really think Dan was was doing the lyrics of an.

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 5>Eighties pop band to say, remember when Michael Orr sat

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.919
<v Speaker 5>down and said, take a look at me now after

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 5>you as.

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Phil Colls is one of those guys. He went bald early,

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 3>so you never he never really aged even when he aged, right,

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 3>it's one of those I was. I took one of

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:32.399
<v Speaker 3>my daughters to barbecue joint yesterday and we walked by

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 3>a guy and I said, like, Grace, did you see

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 3>that guy's hair. She's like, yeah, what about it? I

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 3>go like, did you look a little closer? So he's

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 3>like no, Wow. I was like, dude, that's the worst

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 3>rug I've ever seen.

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 6>Uh huh.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 3>But he was a young guy. He's a good looking dude.

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I mean he had like the the

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 3>it looked like the whole top was gone. And then

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 3>he had some real hair on the side. And I

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it was a chia pet like planted

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 3>in there, or if it was just one of those

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 3>sticker things going on. I don't know, but it looked bad.

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 3>She's just like one of those you want to grab

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 3>and go like, dude, what are you doing? Like It's okay.

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 3>People are bald today.

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 8>I've always had a very good inkling for calling out

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 8>or knowing someone with a two pay since I was young.

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 3>In my younger days, I agree my gadar, my gaydar

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 3>is bad. My gadar is bad, but my radar on

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 3>hair pieces is good.

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 9>Right.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys said like, I don't.

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:21.879
<v Speaker 3>I think some people have both, some people have neither.

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 3>That's where mine breaks down. But anyway, I just wanted

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:27.879
<v Speaker 3>to like, you want to grab them go like, look, dude,

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 3>you're a young guy. You're in good shape, you got

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 3>a good looking girlfriend. Like, just shave it right, and

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 3>then eventually you'll never age, Like, yeah, you're bald at

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 3>like I don't know, he probably looked like he was thirty. Like,

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.399
<v Speaker 3>all right, you're bald at thirty. It sucks really, really

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 3>really hard, Okay, but like you know, it's a good

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 3>hat collection you can go through and Balt's kind of

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 3>beautiful and cool and kind of masculine. And you know,

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.280
<v Speaker 3>by the time you get to fifty, you won't look fifty,

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 3>You'll still look forty. Right, That's the Phil Collins thing.

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 5>John, Is this superpower only with two pays or does

0:41:58.440 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 5>it work with wigs as well?

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 6>It works with everything, all right, yeah, but it works.

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 3>With what else?

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 6>Wigs? I don't know if it was just male specific.

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 8>Extensions things like that, extensions wigs. Yep, I'm good at

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 8>all of that.

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that. We need to have. This needs to

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 3>be part of the next John Rambo Show.

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0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:27.719
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0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 3>Sports Radio, Doug Gottlieb, Dan Byer and for Dan and Danetts.

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 3>We do something on the Doug Gottlieb Show daily three

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>to five Eastern. It's twelve two Pacific that, uh, you know,

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 3>there's an expression in baseball like, well, that's baseball. It's

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like when when a when a woman, girlfriend,

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 3>significant other, daughter or whatever, when they have sort of

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 3>bizarre up and down emotion, you know, behavior, and you're

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 3>just like women, right, women, and we know what you mean,

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 3>but we don't know what you mean because we these guys, we.

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Don't really understand it.

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes, right, Well, in baseball, something doesn't make sense. Just

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 3>how do you explain a guy who you know is

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 3>normally a two to twenty hitter punch and judy, and

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 3>now he's hitting three thirty for the year.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 2>That's baseball, it's time for that's baseball.

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 9>Right.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Here's an example.

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Cody Bellinger got a couple of hits last night and

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 3>the Cubs dramatic come from behind win at Wrigley against

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 3>the White Sox. How about this? Cody Bellinger improved his

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 3>average at three twenty seven. He owns an ops of

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 3>nine thirty two, eighteen home runs, fifty nine RBI and

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 3>by the way, he's almost single handedly helped the resurgence

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 3>led to the resurgence of the Cubs this year. Bellinger

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 3>is expected to cash in this offseason as a free

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 3>agent all of the Scepter spend in the last three

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 3>years of the Dodgers looking lost at the plate? All right, Like,

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 3>somebody get that dude a compass and a Thomas Guide

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 3>because he is lost.

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 4>How do you explain that kind of turnaround? That's baseball?

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 9>That's baseball?

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, this one hits close to home. Angels left hand

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 3>to read. Debtmers came six out short of pitching his

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 3>second career no hitter last night as the Angels beat

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 3>the Rangers took one game at least from the series

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 3>to nothing. Debtmer's threw a no hitter last season. Did

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 3>you know there's a list of Hall of Famers who

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 3>never threw a no hitter? I mean, the greatest picture

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 3>of my lifetime is Pagro Martinez. Nope, Greg Maddox, Roger Clemens,

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Steve Carlton. How do you explain that Debtmers has won

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 3>almost had a second and they have none.

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 4>That's baseball.

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 9>That's baseball.

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 4>And finally, the.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers won their tenth straight game last night, which shouldn't

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 3>be surprising giving their success in the month of August

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 3>in recent years, LA is playing eight hundred ball in

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 3>the last four years in August eight hundred one other

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 3>record in those last four years seventy eight and twenty.

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 3>How do you explain a team that plays that well

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 3>in that month, and, by the way, struggles a lot

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 3>in October.

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 4>That's baseball.

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 7>That's baseball, all right.

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm told that Dan Beyer has some more memorabilia items

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 3>up forbid.

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 5>That is true, Doug, and our game of the price

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 5>is right right now. The Dodgers are so red hot

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.720
<v Speaker 5>you couldn't even put a price on their winning streak.

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 5>We've got some things that are maybe a little bit

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 5>more affordable. Again, That Doug Gottlieb autographed lanyard from NBA

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 5>con last month in Las Vegas, still available on eBay

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 5>for twenty nine ninety nine. We did have an Aaron

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 5>Rodgers item up for sale a bit earlier. The scoreboard,

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 5>by the way, Doug, you lead three with three points.

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 5>John Ramos has two, Jason Stewart has one, final three items.

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 5>Here we had an Aaron Rodgers autographed helmet worth just

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 5>shy of thirteen hundred dollars. My question is how much

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 5>is an autograph to Mark Sanchez jets helmet on eBay?

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 5>John Ramos will start with you two fifty fifty, all right, Doug.

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:44.280
<v Speaker 4>Two hundred and fifty dollars or two dollars fifty cents dollars.

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go half of that buck twenty five all right, Jason.

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 7>Stewart, I'm gonna go two dollars and fifty cents all right.

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 5>Nobody wins because I couldn't find one. There is not

0:46:56.320 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 5>a perfect jet's helmet. I am sorry, Mark Sanchez, have

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 5>done you so dirt?

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 3>What if they would have What if they would have

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.919
<v Speaker 3>sold the helmet and then the pants attached to this,

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>to the attached to it right to bait, then the

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 3>butt bumble.

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 6>That's priceless, Doug, all right?

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:17.280
<v Speaker 5>What about an autograph Jordan Love camouflaged Packers mini helmet

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 5>this on the heels of Rogers. What about an autograph

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 5>Jordan Love camouflage Packers mini helmet. Jason Stewart, your bid.

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 7>Let's see one O one one, John Ramos.

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.760
<v Speaker 8>I'll say fifty dollars.

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 5>And Doug, I'm gonna go one O two, Doug, you

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 5>get this one your fourth one one hundred and eighty

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 5>seven dollars and forty nine cents.

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 6>It could be yours, okay.

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.359
<v Speaker 5>The final final item of this auction, even though Doug

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 5>has won the game in autographed Dallas Cowboys white mini

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 5>helmet that's autographed by Johnny Manzell that also says bleep

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:57.879
<v Speaker 5>Jerry Jones on it, John Ramos, how much.

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 6>Would you pay for this? One hundred and fifty dollars

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 6>buck fifty? One hundred and fifty all right, Doug?

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 4>How much would I pay? Or how much you would

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 4>it go?

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 6>Online? Yes? How much is it going for?

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 4>I'll go one hundred and fifty one.

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 5>One fifty one ad Jason Stewart one fifty two it's

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 5>Jason Stewart's because it can be yours with profanity and

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<v Speaker 5>all for three hundred and twenty five dollars. There it

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<v Speaker 5>is our Price is Right auction of sport.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to do a stay at home show, a

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<v Speaker 3>hierarchy at some point, right because price is Right was

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<v Speaker 3>part of it. I mean I used to I had

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<v Speaker 3>cable as a kid, so you had Heathcliff and uh

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<v Speaker 3>uh you can't do that on television.

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<v Speaker 4>And you had what else? Did you have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff? All right, this is Dan Patrick show, Fox

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<v Speaker 4>Sports Trail Thanks to the Boys.