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Speaker 1: dive into the Christian Wilkins situation. Now, first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: I guess this guy's gonna be pretty freaking good. He's

428
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Speaker 1: flying around. Then the pads come on and it's like, uh,

429
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Speaker 1: a little overwhelmed, and listen, as time goes on, maybe

430
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Speaker 1: he gets more comfortable. No one's judging you purely on

431
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Speaker 1: the first day of pads in training camp, but it

432
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: does separate players, and it does go from a place

433
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Speaker 1: where a team can be really high on a player

434
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Speaker 1: based on the off season activities and the way he

435
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Speaker 1: came into shape and training camp, and then the pads

436
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: come on and a week goes by and you go,

437
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: this guy's not gonna be able to help us out

438
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Speaker 1: this year, and it can work on the on the

439
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: flip side of Hey, this guy was on our practice

440
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: squad last year. We didn't have high hopes. But he's

441
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: kicking ass and taking names right now. He knows the offense,

442
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: he knows the defense. He's playing fast like this guy

443
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: could he start and you start repping in really quick,

444
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: and it's the best part of training camp by far. Now.

445
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: Ideally no one gets injured. We know that's kind of impossible.

446
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: We've seen a bunch of guys get injured so far.

447
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: But I think it is a time for NFL front

448
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: offices when the practice tape really really matters, and the

449
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: evaluations with your scouting department, with your coaching staff, anyone

450
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: that's watched hard knocks over the years. They don't show

451
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: it as much anymore. But back in the day, those

452
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Speaker 1: big conference rooms where the coaching staff and maybe a

453
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Speaker 1: GM and assistant GM were all sitting at and people

454
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Speaker 1: on the outside, you know, the younger coaches and some

455
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: of the younger scouts, and they're just evaluating people. Because

456
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Speaker 1: a huge part of football right now, and this is

457
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Speaker 1: gonna happen in college. College is a little different because

458
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Speaker 1: you don't have any preseason games, so you start if

459
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Speaker 1: you're Texas or Ohio State or some of these programs,

460
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: you're a weekend. You know, you start kind of implementing

461
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: some of the game plan. But for the first couple

462
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: of weeks of an NFL training camp, when the pads

463
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: come on, it's really all about evaluation. How you handle

464
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: the scheme, how you handle the information, and what you

465
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: look like versus you know, your own team. It's not

466
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Speaker 1: a lot of like getting ready for a week one,

467
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: it's purely evaluating the roster and you know, and that

468
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: goes for veteran players too, like, God, this guy's slipping.

469
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: This guy isn't quite what he once was. And once

470
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: you start having those thoughts, you go, listen, his money

471
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: this year is not guaranteed, So will we pay this

472
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: guy twelve million dollars if he makes your opening day

473
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: roster his salary. If he's an invested veteran, his salary

474
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Speaker 1: becomes guaranteed. So you have to think twice, like do

475
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Speaker 1: we cut him and just go with the sixth rounder

476
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: who might be eighty five percent as good as this guy?

477
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: But he only costs us a million dollars and in

478
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: two years they he might be even with the guy.

479
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: And these are decisions that start really kind of materializing,

480
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, in these meeting rooms and in people's heads,

481
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: and these conversations start happening right now now, it doesn't

482
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: mean that it's going to come to fruition. And maybe

483
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: that veteran guy, it's like, hey, we still feel good

484
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: about this guy. Maybe the position coaches arguing for him,

485
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: maybe the coordinators honoring for him. Maybe the head coach

486
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: is arguing against them. So you get all these different factions,

487
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: which is good, which is healthy. You don't want everyone

488
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: on the same page right now. You want everyone bringing

489
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: their opinions. But once you start getting close to that

490
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: cutdown date, there's going to be a decision made and

491
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: everyone's got to be on the same page. But for

492
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, and you know, the Chargers

493
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Speaker 1: and Lions, because they got to camp earlier, they've been

494
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: in past for a while, so these conversations have been

495
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: happening with those teams for a little little longer. Now

496
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: both those two teams, especially the Lions, are a little

497
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: more established of a roster, but some of these teams,

498
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Speaker 1: you know, have the forty nine ers have like eight

499
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: spots open. For the last like four or five years,

500
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have had like one starting spot

501
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: maybe open, and it's like anything in the NFL, rosters churn.

502
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: You get to a point where a lot of guys

503
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: leave and boom. Eagles are a good example. Not as

504
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: many openings. A couple on defense, really not on offense,

505
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: maybe one one position. Some of these teams, hell, you know,

506
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Bills, like you might get three or four,

507
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: but it's not even just the starters, because if the

508
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: starting spots open and the backup wins the job, well,

509
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: now who's the backup? So you kind of get this

510
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: domino effect, which you know, basically, you get up early

511
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: in the morning, you eat breakfast, you go to practice,

512
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: you evaluate that practice film, you go to meetings, you

513
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: keep evaluating that practice film, and you're just kind of

514
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: doing that because there's no other film to evaluate. There

515
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: are no preseason games yet, there's obviously just nothing else

516
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: going on, so you're kind of keeping tabs with the league.

517
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: If you're a GM or an assistant GM, but your

518
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: number one job right now, the number one thing you

519
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: have to do with your head coach and your coaching

520
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: staff is nail the evaluation of your own team. And listen,

521
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: some of it's hard. Some of these decisions might be

522
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: a coin flip, and you just pray to God that

523
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: you don't select keep the guy, and the guy that

524
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: you let go goes on somewhere else, and then a

525
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: couple years later he's like a high end player and

526
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: the guy that you kept is not even on your team.

527
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: But that's that's the risk you take, and it's why

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00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: the more information you have, hopefully the better decision you

529
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Speaker 1: can make. But these these are fun times. These are

530
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: tense times. These are just there's a lot of just

531
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: a lot of stress. I mean when you have a

532
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: job that's like, hey, this job is available, and you realize, like,

533
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: if someone loses this job, especially if it's the veteran,

534
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be on this team anymore. So these

535
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: guys aren't idiots, you know. If you've been in the

536
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: league long enough, you realize like, if I don't win

537
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: this starting job, I'm going to get cut because they're

538
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: not gonna pay me seven million dollars to be the

539
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: backup guard, which is not gonna happen. Buckle up, if

540
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: you're a fan, you know you're reading all these articles

541
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: about these these competitions. It's it's as real as can be. Okay,

542
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: let's do a little thing. We call the mail bag

543
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire

544
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: in those dms. Get your questions answer here on the

545
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: show again. It's just my name, fire in the dms,

546
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: and we will start with Patrick. Question for the bag.

547
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Speaker 1: Schefter today reported that mcclaurin will not take less than

548
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: thirty three million dollars a year. And that's the deal

549
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: that DK just got from the Steelers. Schefter said he

550
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: wants considerably more than that. Terry is a better player

551
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: than in my opinion, so starting with that number makes sense.

552
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: It does not seem like the Commanders agree. Given what

553
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: you know about Adam Peters and his background with the

554
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Niners, who seem to have plenty of

555
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: these kind of holdouts in recent years, how do you

556
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: see this playing out? I think this is complicated, you know,

557
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: I think we discussed earlier. When you come into a

558
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: situation and you really like the player one, you know,

559
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers giving Slater a lot of money. It's not

560
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: that's every single coach in the history of the league

561
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: would have done that. I think Courtland Sutton's a better example.

562
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Sean Payton comes in, he gets this young quarterback and

563
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: immediately his young quarterback has a rapport with Sutton. Now,

564
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: as of recording this, I haven't seen the guaranteed money,

565
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: but he got like four years ninety five million bucks

566
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, right so under and twenty five a year,

567
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: which always factors into the guarantee. So's it's a relatively

568
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: easy deal to do if you really like the player.

569
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: You like the guy, and you go, we're getting this

570
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: guy under market rate, you know, with the top guys.

571
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: He's six seven eight million dollars off the top guys.

572
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: And we love the player, he knows our scheme, and

573
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: we feel, at twenty eight twenty nine years old, for

574
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: the next several years gonna be the prime of his career.

575
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I think when you start talking forty million dollars a year,

576
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Speaker 1: it's like, I'm sorry, I'm out. I get thirty five

577
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Let's just say, like that's that

578
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: would wet his beak. You give me thirty five million

579
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: dollars a year. So let's just do the math. Is

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Speaker 1: he signing like a two year extension. Let's just say

581
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: that guarantee every penny, two years, seventy million dollars every penny, Like,

582
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: do you feel comfortable? Given? Again, he really good player,

583
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: and I get DK got that. I think the Steelers

584
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: giving him that type of money is kind of crazy, right.

585
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: I do think that Terry McLaurin is really really good player,

586
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: but I think he got to be very very careful.

587
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Is Terry McLaurin a top six seven wide receiver in

588
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: the league? You know, probably in the discussion last season,

589
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: which was his best year ever, But he's no one

590
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: would take him over the top guys. So it's like

591
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay him more than the top guys who

592
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: are younger than him, and he wasn't my guy. I

593
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: just think this is the start the type questions you

594
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: start asking yourself. The problem is is you go, we

595
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: got this guy on a rookie contract the quarterback. This

596
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: guy helps out my rookie quarterback. You know, Deebo's pretty

597
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: big risk. Now if it doesn't work out, who cares?

598
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: He's unrestricted free agent, He's gone. What's Terry gonna do

599
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: just not play. Obviously, he showed up. He's he's holding in.

600
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: He's a high character guy, so you feel good about

601
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: the person. But I think the situation's I think there's

602
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: a decent chance he's making play on the money. Speaking

603
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: of Washington, is Jaden Daniels the next up in Washington's

604
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: cursed quarterback cycle? We've seen it before. Rookie quarterbacks take

605
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: the league him, then year two hits in the brick wall,

606
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: RG three Rookie of the Year and twelve benched by

607
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: year three. Jason Campbell flashes in six inconsistent BIO seven,

608
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins took years before consistency, Dwayne Haskins RIP seven,

609
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: TV seven nine, and T's in his sophomore year. Washington's

610
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks historically crash hard in year two, and the NFL

611
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: always adjusts. So is Jayden built different? I would say,

612
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's way better in Dwayne Haskins rip Cousins.

613
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean was a fourth round pick. Jason Campbell little

614
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: before my time of being super dialed, but better player.

615
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: RG three was pretty awesome, but he tore his knee,

616
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: so he was never the same. I would say he's

617
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: a better player than all those guys, and I would

618
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: expect him to have a good year. I think the

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00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: bigger question is less about the quarterback and more about

620
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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, because like every single time with Cliff,

621
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: like he has a big year and then he kind

622
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: of comes back to earth a little bit because teams

623
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: figure out his offensive scheme. So it's not apples to apples.

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00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: And I don't pretend to be some schematic genius, but

625
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: I do think that spread offense in the pros, Chip, Kelly,

626
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. It's just when that's your bread and butter.

627
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: As time goes on, defensive coordinators go buckle up, Buttercup,

628
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: because it's fucking on and we plan on kicking your ass.

629
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Speaker 1: And I would say that's happened in recent memory to

630
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Cliff and a Chip. Now can they adjust, can they adapt?

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Speaker 1: We'll see, because there's no excuse with this quarterback's pretty

632
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: freaking good. I'd be stunned if he's not really good.

633
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: For the mailbag. I saw Bill Simmons on his pod

634
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: with Zach Lowe talking about how talks about expansion in

635
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: the NBA have slowed because teams don't want to lose

636
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: money in TV deals because they'd have to share revenue

637
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: with whatever new teams there would be. Could you see

638
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: this also being the case potentially in the future of

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Speaker 1: the NFL if they've ever were to expand. For context,

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Speaker 1: Simmons has been banging the drum that the NBA was

641
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: going to expand because he's pretty dialed in with the owners,

642
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, Lee office people, and it was like Vegas

643
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: and Seattle's gonna get a team. And then I would say,

644
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: based on the last like six months, turns out James Dolan,

645
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: the Knicks guy, has been at the forefront of being

646
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: anti expansion and clearly got people to agree with them

647
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: and their main stances. We just got a historic television deal.

648
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: If we add two teams and we go to thirty two,

649
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: we'd have the same right now they're at thirty they'd

650
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: have thirty two like the NFL. Well, the piece of

651
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: the pie we get in the national television contract we

652
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: have to split up with two more teams, so it's

653
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: less money coming in to us. Even if these teams

654
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: give us a couple hundred million dollars each with an

655
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: expansion fee, I think it'd even be greater with the

656
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: NFL because NFL teams are already splitting it with thirty

657
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: one other teams if you own the team. So if

658
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: we add two more, especially a couple international teams, it

659
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: doesn't even matter where they'd be at. My piece of

660
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: the pie gets cut dramatically more because now we're talking

661
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: thirty three to thirty four teams, so it's even a

662
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: bigger cut then the NBA would be right. So I

663
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: think one million percent the natural reaction to some of

664
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: these guys. Even if you there's a greater, good, big picture,

665
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: it's hard to not think short term and over the

666
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: next three, four or five years, it's gonna cost me

667
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars. Again, assuming that's the math. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that would be the number one.

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Speaker 1: I think there'd be a lot of variables. I think

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00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: anytime you're talking expansion, there should be a lot of

671
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Speaker 1: variables beside just the money. The one thing I disagree

672
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: with Simmons is like the league has never been more talented.

673
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: It's like Bill, I've been watching the NBA for thirty years.

674
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: I feel we've never had worse teams. This isn't an

675
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: individual sport, it's a team sport. So yeah, it's like

676
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: the AAU of the NBA. It's like I'm watching all

677
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: these teams, like I feel like all these teams, and

678
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: part of it is the transactional nature of the sport.

679
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Feels like these teams aren't any good. There's like four

680
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: or five good teams total max. Sometimes less than that.

681
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: In the NFL, you're so predicated on quarterbacks, there aren't

682
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: enough quarterbacks to go around. So I'd be anti expansion

683
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: in both. The NBA does not need more teams. The

684
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: NFL does not need more teams. So that's where I stand,

685
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: even before the arguments about the money. Congrats on the

686
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: wedding and the baby. Big year for me, I know

687
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: question for the POD. I'm a broad go van and

688
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: I hear all the time in the conversation about bo

689
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: Nicks how old he is relative to rookie and second

690
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: year quarterbacks. It seems like it is constantly brought up.

691
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: But when the media talks about Jaydon Daniels, his age

692
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: never gets brought up in conversations about him, even though

693
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: he is literally only ten months younger than bo X.

694
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: Might it just be biased? For me? You know what

695
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate, and I you know, I had this just

696
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: so hardcore. When I was young, and I was like

697
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: in my peak as a sportsman of like high school

698
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: into college, you have such a chip on your shoulder

699
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: for arguments like this, And for me, it's not as

700
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: tight with like any specific team anymore like my my

701
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: happiness or my daily and listen. I listened to multiple

702
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: podcasts on the forty nine ers. I still follow the

703
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: team closely, but I'm not as emotionally moved by the

704
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: arguments one way or the other. On a lot of

705
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: this stuff. I miss that I miss going this is bullshit.

706
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Everyone keeps calling my guy old. Jaden Daniels is ten.

707
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: They'd be in the same grade. So listen. Sometimes you

708
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: get a perception and you get a way you're gonna

709
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: be discussed and it's not gonna change. Like Jaden Daniels

710
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: within a year was like, are we sure the Bears

711
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: picked the right guy? And listen, I'm sorry, that's a

712
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: conversation this year. Caleb can shut everyone up, including myself,

713
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: But right now, like I, the Washington would not trade

714
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: their guide. I don't know how the Bears who knows,

715
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, early in training camp, but there's a chance

716
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: by like Halloween, they're like, god, that was a bad decision.

717
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: Where Bo Knicks, everyone's like, this guy should not going

718
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: the first round. Sean Payton's crazy, this is nuts. So

719
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: anytime your first reaction is like this is stupid, people

720
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: don't want to believe right. It's like most people that

721
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: talked about football or were in the NFL viewed bo

722
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: Nicks not as a top fifteen pick. Help. Most people

723
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: debuted him as like third fourth rounder. It's go back

724
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: to Kirk Cousins or Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson. Early

725
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: in his career, when you're drafted in the third round,

726
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: half the league didn't even like you as a prospect,

727
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: so it's like it's hard for you to get the respect.

728
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: It's Purty's arguments. Same with Jalen Hurts. I know one

729
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: was a second round pick, one was a seventh round pick,

730
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: but it's like it's hard for you to shape that.

731
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't I don't really know what to

732
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: tell you beside it just is what it is. Win games.

733
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it today, not today, but over

734
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: the course of the last week. Is I do think

735
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: there is some sleeper like looking at some of the

736
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Speaker 1: gambling odds, Obviously, the Chiefs have won the division for

737
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: whatever seven straight years. But I don't think Broncos could

738
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: be pretty good. I don't think they can be pretty good.

739
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: Last mail bag, you were talking about the fact that

740
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: having pads for training really do make a difference. So

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00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: my question is, knowing this year that Chargers got to

742
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: it early because of the Hall of Fame game, with

743
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: a coach as good as hardball, could you expect an

744
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: early advantage for them first month of the season, for example.

745
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: Hadn't thought about that, hadn't thought about that at all?

746
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: But you still get you know, some of your core guys,

747
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Alt Maconkey, you know Herbert's second year with this group

748
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: extra reps. Don't hate that. I don't. I haven't thought

749
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: about that at all. Could that be a big advantage

750
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. Let's look at this from a gambling standpoint.

751
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: Week one in Brazil against the Chiefs. Because the Chargers

752
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: most teams they play, I think they're gonna have a

753
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: coaching advantage. The one game for sure they do not

754
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: have a coaching advantage is the Chiefs. But the Chiefs

755
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: are breaking in all signs point to be in a

756
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: left tackle Josh Simmons, who's repping with the ones. Obviously,

757
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: some new players will see what happens with the skill guys.

758
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: You know, Rashi Rice getting suspended, a couple of new

759
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: guys defense potentially, But yeah, I like where your heads

760
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: at there. That's good knowledge, good good thinking. Now that

761
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: brock Purty assigned a mega deal and is one of

762
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL, is it time

763
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: for the MEETIA has stop covering them like a plucky

764
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: underdog and start covering them like a franchise quarterback. Guys,

765
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: this does not just because you get paid just because

766
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: you're Jalen Hurts and you win a Super Bowl, unless

767
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: you're Patrick Mahomes or like Josh Allen or Lamar if

768
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: they just won a Super Bowl, there's nothing to even

769
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: argue anymore. All these guys, basically everyone beside the top

770
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: couple guys, are gonna be argued constantly. It's never gonna end.

771
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts will have to win three super Bowls is

772
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: like an MVP to show people up. Even if perty

773
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and like, well, Kyle had his

774
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: best year ever. Oh, they've hit on all these draft picks.

775
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm just these conversations, the bow Knicks, the Parties, Dak Prescott.

776
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: We argue about Dak Prescott for a decade. Now you

777
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: could say that people arguing against him were right, But

778
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, Dak Prescott's gonna be argued about

779
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: this year. Same with the Cousins, unless you're Mahomes like,

780
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: you're just gonna get argued about. A big fan of

781
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: the show. Do you think it's possible that cam Ward

782
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: is absolutely horrible for the Titans? We see a Rosen

783
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray situation. The upcoming draft class seemingly has a

784
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: three to four player with the same talent as cam Ward.

785
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I think I think cam Ward

786
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: is a lock to be their quarterback for several years,

787
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: and I have a hard time seeing him be absolutely horrible.

788
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: I really do now how good I don't know. I

789
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: don't know how good their team's going to be. Could

790
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: they be a sleeper this year if he's really good?

791
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: I do think so because their defense is pretty good.

792
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: But their GM who was just hired from the Chiefs,

793
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: he made that pick. So when you Josh Rosen was

794
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick, so he went from the tenth

795
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: overall pick to the number one overall pick. They took

796
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: cam Ward number one overall. It was crazy with the

797
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen even though it really wasn't a couple years later.

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Speaker 1: I do think getting rid of the number one overall

799
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: pick after one year would be I'd be stunned. I

800
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to happen at all. I know

801
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: you're more of an NFL guy than college football, but

802
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: you are still very knowledgeable. I appreciate that. Obviously, the

803
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: NFL pays the bills around here, but I love college football.

804
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: It's just harder, you know, if you don't fall recruiting,

805
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: it's easier to follow the NFL than it is college football,

806
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: especially now with the transfer portal. I was doing college

807
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: football research and found the dating back to fifteen, excluding

808
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Burrows LSU breakout year, the champion has come from the

809
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: top four odds favorites each August before the season, LSU

810
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: was number six that year. As of right now, the

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Speaker 1: pool to select from would be Ohio State, Texas, Georgia,

812
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Speaker 1: and Penn State. I don't buy Ohio State or Penn State,

813
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: leaving Texas and Georgia in my book, I think there's

814
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: great value in Texas at plus six fifty. What are

815
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: your predictions. I do think the likelihood of Ohio State

816
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: going back to back, given they lost so many guys

817
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: on defense and their quarterback. Like I listen, I've been

818
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: known to be Ohio State hater. Their team was fucking

819
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: good last year. I mean, the best team money could buy,

820
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: and they backed it up down the stretch after they

821
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: lost to Michigan entering that bad boy. I'm with you.

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00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: You know Patricia's coach in the defense. I would say

823
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State, if Ryan Day were to win that it'd

824
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: be be a hell of a coaching job. I would

825
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: I would put more stock into Penn State. I would

826
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: put more. You could argue Penn State has a better

827
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: chance than Texas given just how physically demanding the SEC

828
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: can be. And like this is gonna sound crazy, we

829
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: do have more and from and Drew Aller, who actually

830
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: played pretty well last year. They were returning their coordinators.

831
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: I guess they added Knowles, who Ohio State came from

832
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: Ohio State. He's a PA guy. Their defense is gonna

833
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: be unreal. Penn State's defense is going to dominate this year. Offensively,

834
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: they brought back both their running backs, their quarterback, they're

835
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: OC and I'm pretty sure they've added some dudes in

836
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: the transfer portal at wide receiver. Now they did lose

837
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. I think Penn State's gonna be fucking good.

838
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: I'd be I'm gonna pick them to win the Big Ten.

839
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: Georgia is gunner stocked in their quarterback. I just hard

840
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: for me to pick them. I would go and rank

841
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: of Penn State, Texas, Georgia, Ohio State. Obviously, Ohio State

842
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: and Ryan Day are a better programmed than Penn State.

843
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: They've proven a lot more. But it's like this team,

844
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: they're pretty good. You see the highlights of LeVar Arrington's

845
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: kid who's gonna be the next Abdul Carter and Michael Parsons. Jesus,

846
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: he's eighteen years old, he looks like a NFL player.

847
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: After a week of Josh Simmons checking all the boxes

848
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City, even in pads, and there seemingly being

849
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: no competition at left tackle anymore. Is this outcome more

850
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: of a failure on the league to let such a

851
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: talent fall to Kansas City and bail them out, or

852
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: is it more about how capitalistic of an operation the

853
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs have going right now seems like the type of

854
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: pick where we look up and see him in the

855
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl next February and it's like, yeah, probably because

856
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes isn't worried about his blindside anymore. I think two

857
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: things can be true. One, he's one of the more

858
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: talented guys in the draft, and if he had been healthy,

859
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: he's a lock, top tennish pick lock. He was not

860
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: healthy coming out of the draft, so that right away

861
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: makes people a little squirmish. The other thing that is true,

862
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: he had red flags. Now I wouldn't go as far

863
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: as like Jalen Carter red flags, but I know he

864
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: was off some boards. Where I think it benefits the

865
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: Chiefs is their coach is a little liberal, more liberal

866
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: with veach of who's on and off the board, you know,

867
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes maybe where a front office would

868
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: be like, I'm not quite comfortable, Coach Rie goes, we're good.

869
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: I can handle the guy. It doesn't mean it's always

870
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: going to work, but I think you gotta be careful

871
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: playing that game. Right. Did Atlanta screw up by not

872
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: drafting Jalen Carter? Atlanta was not equiped to handle that guy,

873
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: Not at all, So I think sometimes when we play

874
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: that game, I don't know. I think sometimes it's unfair.

875
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: He was there at thirty two for a reason. He

876
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: plays the most coveted position on offense beside quarterback, left tackle,

877
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: So for every team to pass on him, I think

878
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: there were a ton of question marks. I also think

879
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: we gotta be careful. Is he gonna be good? I

880
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: would probably bet on it, but it's July twenty eighth.

881
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, let's we got a long way to go.

882
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: But he got pretty lucky. I would say it worked

883
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: out pretty well for him. Now, in the short term,

884
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: you go thirty second instead of fourteenth or tenth or eighth,

885
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: you make a lot less money. But I think in

886
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: the long term he can make a lot more money.

887
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs, if this works out, I mean, it'll

888
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: be a steal, not even a steal. I mean he

889
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: was there. Of course the Chiefs are gonna take him.

890
00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: He's left tackle. My wife and I just welcomed our

891
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: son last month as well, So congrats on the announcement

892
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: of the baby boy. Question for the mailbag, I've heard

893
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: you describe Philip Rivers and Deebo as war daddies what's

894
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: your definition for a player that fits the bill and

895
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: who would be your all war Daddy team quarterback, running back,

896
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end, defensive player. Will limit it to

897
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: current and recently retired players. I think Wardaddy is one

898
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: of those like you know when you see it, And

899
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: I think part of being a war Daddy as someone

900
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: that you feel comfortable with and listen, whoever's listening to this,

901
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: whoever you're a fan of. You know there are certain

902
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: players on your team do you just feel really comfortable

903
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: going into a big game with You know, this guy

904
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: is ready. And I honestly I think the quarterbacks, right

905
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, he was just listen, win or lose. You

906
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: just felt good being in the trenches with them. I

907
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: think it's what makes this top quarterback group pretty special

908
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: is because I think all of them. Now they may

909
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: not play well, but I'll tell you this, the top

910
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: four guys Mahomes, Josh Lamar, and Joe Burrow, those fucking

911
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: guys are scared to lick. I mean, those are guys

912
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: that you just feel comfortable going to battle with. I

913
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: think a war daddy typically your best players, that are

914
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: your toughest players are gonna stand out. So it's like, yeah,

915
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: I mean Trent Williams or you know Lane Johnson, Right,

916
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean some of these wide receivers. Part of the

917
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: two is a physicality like what made Debo is like

918
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: Deepo will break tackles, right, Like George Kittle when you

919
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: watch him play, is a lot different than Travis Kelcey. Right,

920
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey's numbers dwarf George's in terms of the receiving game.

921
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: But when you watch George, there's a physicality that Travis

922
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: just can't bring to the table. Right, He's just he's

923
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: not gonna do what George does. You know, back to Gronk,

924
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: So certain position players, you know, McLaurin is like Terry

925
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: McLaurin is a war Daddy, And I think you got

926
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: to be very careful, Like I'm not gonna list maybe

927
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: I'll do my all Wardaddy team before the season starts.

928
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: But this is like with the Raiders, Spy Tech and

929
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: Pete get there, and I was guilty of this too.

930
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I pivot kind of restart, trade Max, trade

931
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: him two ones in a two, Like you get a

932
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: haul for Max Crosby. The Lions would trade you a

933
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: shitload for Max, But I think Pete John would be

934
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: like he is everything we want in a guy like

935
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: Max Crosby is the ultimate warddaddy. So the physicality, the toughness,

936
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: the relentlessness. I think when the lights get the brightest,

937
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: right Monday night football, Sunday night football against the best competition,

938
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: you know that guy, if he's healthy, is gonna be

939
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: give everything you have. Doesn't mean you're always gonna play

940
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: the best games. To me, it's about effort, physicality, toughness.

941
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: It's almost like an intangible thing, right, and there's a

942
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: hitting aspect to it, especially defensive players like dra Greenlaw.

943
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: That guy's a war daddy. That guy is just an

944
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: old school cut from the nineteen nineties badass and some

945
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: of these guys just art. Doesn't mean you can't be

946
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: a really good player and be quote unquote a little

947
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: softer than other guys. Awesome. I listen to your podcast

948
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: every day. Experience is the reason why I side with

949
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: mostly everything you say. But San Jose is an awesome city.

950
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: We got the Sharks and a lot of nightlife. The

951
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: food is amazing. In a weekend here may change your mind,

952
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be a hard disagreement. On my side.

953
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not a San Jose guy. My question

954
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: would have been for my Pittsburgh Steelers. You and especially

955
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: Colin have been bashing their offseason and trading for DK

956
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: without having a franchise quarterback. But is it insane to

957
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: think that they can draft or trade up to a

958
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: higher position to get a franchise quarterback of their choice.

959
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: If you had to pick between Drew Aller, Leonora Sellers,

960
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: or Nika, I'm a oliva. I can't say that last name.

961
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: Who has the highest upside? I would say, right now,

962
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: as we sit here today, Nico is not even in

963
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: the conversation to sniff the first round, let alone trading

964
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: up for so I would remove Nico. I would say

965
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: Aler is a very interesting prospect, the taste that he

966
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: left in our mouse, especially if you had a thousand

967
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: dollars wagered on Penn State and he threw that interception

968
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: against Notre Dame. We got to bounce back from that

969
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: bad boy. I don't feel as comfortable talking about Lenora Sellers.

970
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said I was super dialed

971
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: in to all of his games for South Carolina. I

972
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: would say he is a guy him and Arch are

973
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: the guys and probably DJ Lagway as well, like really

974
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: excited to watch this year. But I would say Sellers

975
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: and Al are immediately in that conversation of guys. To me,

976
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: if I'm a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, RAMS fan for sure,

977
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: because I got the two picks the Browns they got

978
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: a couple first rounders. I think you're I mean, you're

979
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: watching all these guys. I Nico as well, but you're

980
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: watching Alur Lagway, Sellers Arch, all the good quarterbacks and

981
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: any guy that starts playing, well, you're keeping an eye on,

982
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: probably leaving some guys off. So I'm nineteen years old

983
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: and I just became the head coach of a West

984
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: Seattle eighth grade football team. The players seem to look

985
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: at me as an adult, but my assistant coaches seem

986
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: harder to convince. So far, all we had is the

987
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: skills showcase. Any tips for when I go to the

988
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: first practice to get everybody bought in and behind me

989
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: even though I'm nineteen. You want to rattle one of

990
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: those assistant coaches cages, fire one of them before you

991
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: even get there, show everyone who's boss. Just kidding, Don't

992
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: do that unless the guy sucks at his job. But no,

993
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: I think the best thing you can do, Like you

994
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: can't change your age, you can't change your experience. Just

995
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: be authentic. Be who you are. I think anytime, like

996
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: you're doing dealing with eighth grade kids, they're gonna look

997
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: up to you no matter what. You got them right.

998
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: The assistant coaches, who I think is fair to say

999
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: many of them are going to be older and you

1000
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: some way older than you. Like, just i'd be a

1001
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: little careful of like screaming at them immediately. Not that

1002
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know if your coaching style, but don't

1003
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: try to act like a coach that you've seen on TV.

1004
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: Just be who you are. I think, anytime at any level.

1005
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: This could be the pros, this could be college, this

1006
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: could be D two, This could be high school football,

1007
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: this could be eighth grade football. You have to be

1008
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: authentic to who you are. I think the best coaches,

1009
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, didn't fake it. That's Nick Saban's personality, Andy Reid,

1010
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. They're authentic to the Mike Tomlin, the Hardbob Brother,

1011
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: you go around, you go, Kirby Smart, Lincoln Riley. Be

1012
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: true to who you are because if you just act

1013
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: be consistent, and that's being authentic. If you act like

1014
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: you do normally would every single day, if you know

1015
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, they'll respect you. So like you're

1016
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: not going to gain respect by screaming at him, by

1017
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, boss them around, because you're the top of

1018
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: the totem pole. But I think you gotta just whatever

1019
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: your personality is, try to be consistent with that. I'd

1020
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: also try to know your shit because the more quote

1021
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: unquote schematic motive you know, motivating eighth graders actually might

1022
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: be kind of important. Ideally they're ready to roll up

1023
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: practice charts. But yeah, it's tough. There's not right or

1024
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: wrong way to do things. But I would say anytime

1025
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: you're a younger person and people are answering to you

1026
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: and you kind of start throwing around authority, it's the

1027
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: easiest way, you know, in terms of your fellow workers,

1028
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: to get them to turn on you. And if you're

1029
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna want to win games in the eighth grade league

1030
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: it's football, you need a good staff. A question, do

1031
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: you enjoy special teams? A friend who just started watching

1032
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: football last year tells me it's gimmicky and boring, And

1033
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: I found it hard to defend. Why was it an

1034
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: interesting part of the game Even though it is, I

1035
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: found it interesting in the NFL has made big changes

1036
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: to it, more than any side of the ball in

1037
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. Well because offensive defense besides like

1038
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: officiating the violence right, the hits because they didn't want

1039
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: to get sued for concussions. Like offensive defense is why

1040
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: you watch right, like when you play golf, hitting drivers

1041
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: and seven irons are fun. Putting sucks like, yeah, do

1042
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: I care about special teams? No, like kicker, punter, kickoff

1043
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: return Like no, it's it's really boring. I do not

1044
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: care at all. Help Most NFL coaches aren't that interested.

1045
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: They just want their special teams coach to handle those guys,

1046
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: and their kicker to make kicks, and their punter to

1047
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: be good at directional punting, and whoever's on the special

1048
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: teams unit to be sound in their lanes and make tackles. Yeah, sucks,

1049
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: but it's I mean, it's part of the sport. Because

1050
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: let's just say you took it out and if you

1051
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: got past like the thirty five yard line, you can

1052
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: just give a thumbs up automatic three points. You could

1053
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: just start every drive at the twenty five, like that

1054
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: is exciting. I mean there can be exciting plays, a

1055
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: kickoff block, a punt block, a fake punt, but the

1056
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: overall run of the mill forty yard punt or thirty

1057
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: yard field goal right down the middle. Yeah, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: do anything to me as a consumer, And there is

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Speaker 1: a gimmick yell them into it, of course, but it

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Speaker 1: is pretty interwoven and connected to football at this point

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Speaker 1: in time in twenty twenty five. Do I see them

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Speaker 1: scrapping special teams. I don't. Maybe one day. I guess

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Speaker 1: you'd never say never, But there are enough coaches in

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Speaker 1: the league, older coaches, that would definitely fight for it

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Speaker 1: to keep it as part of an integral part of

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Speaker 1: the game, even if it quote unquote can be a

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Speaker 1: little gimmicky at times. The volume