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Speaker 2: And welcome back to our number two of the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network. I am Dale LOLLI

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Speaker 2: he is the Matt Williamson and Matt. Let's go over

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Speaker 2: Mel Kuiper's Oh okay, the just mocked rout. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: made some waves and he likes to do that. I

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Speaker 2: absolutely get people talking because then they tune in to

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Speaker 2: watch the shows. Maybe how that goes, but he's really

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Speaker 2: dialed in. So one, he has the Titans taking Cam

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Speaker 3: There, Chisel and soone, I think all most at this point.

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Speaker 2: At two, he has the Browns taking Abdull Carter the

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Speaker 3: Okay, I get it. I mean you pair him with

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Speaker 3: Garrett would be pretty frightening. I just don't know where

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing with the quarterback situation. The Browns also

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Speaker 2: have the first pick of the second round, right right,

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Speaker 2: So if they want to and eleven picks overall, yeah,

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Speaker 2: first round and take Jackson Dart if that, if that's

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Speaker 2: what they really want to.

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Speaker 3: Do, I wonder could you take Hunter and if you

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Speaker 3: don't think Sanders is going three, try to pair them

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Speaker 3: or something crazy, I would understand it. Or do you

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Speaker 3: roll the dice with shocked. They already have Picket. I

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Speaker 3: guess Wentz is visiting there today or yesterday. They've had

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Speaker 3: wi It's not like they have no money. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Cousins thing's still out there to some degree. You

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Speaker 3: would just think ownership's gonna say we want you to

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Speaker 3: have your your billboard guy. To me, that's probably Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Sanders goes third to the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I really think he's gonna go in one of those

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Speaker 2: The Patriots then take Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: And wouldn't they love Sanders to go in the top three? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because then you're either open for business with a great

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Speaker 3: for them, I'd say you're playing receiver first.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars take Mason Graham, defensive tackle out of Michigan,

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Speaker 2: the Jets take Tyler Warren tight end out of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: I could see that too. Again, they could go a

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Speaker 3: love like McMillan, that seems too early, but I would

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Speaker 2: At eight, the Panthers take Jalen Walker, linebacker.

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Speaker 3: At Georgia, getting pretty shocky.

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Speaker 2: At nine, the Saints take Jackson Dart quarterback out of Ole, Miss.

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Speaker 3: Which is the blows of your doors off pick, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about DJs a couple of days

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Speaker 3: structured cars contract and this is Steeler related. I think

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Speaker 3: because post June first, he could get moved pretty easily

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Speaker 3: and is like an eighty three million dollar capit. If

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Speaker 3: he's around next year, he's only gonna be there one

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Speaker 2: But if they could just start that process now.

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Speaker 3: It would be smart. Yeah, but what's insane about this organization?

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Speaker 3: The last time the Saints took a first round quarterback

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Speaker 2: Well, in which case they wouldn't do this. They wouldn't

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Speaker 2: take Jackson Dart nine. If they're in, they're going to

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying they don't take I mean the chances

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Speaker 3: But the last time, I mean, this organization doesn't do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean Archie Manning was their last first round quarterback.

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Speaker 2: At ten, the Bears take mikel Williams, linebacker out of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: At eleven, the forty nine ers take Armound Membo.

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Speaker 3: I saw that, and it makes sense. Would you do

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Speaker 2: I would take the receiver.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen, the Dolphins take Will Campbell offensive lineman out of LSU.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like, whoever who has listened to said,

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Speaker 2: At fourteen, the Colts take Colston Loveland tight end out

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Speaker 3: He's a really good prospect that'd be good for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: See two tight ends go yeah.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen the Falcons take Mike Green the edge out of Marshall.

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Speaker 2: I mean, every year, once again they are right right.

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Speaker 3: The Falcons should take an edge.

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Speaker 2: At sixteen, the Cardinals take Will Johnson cornerback from Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Could he fall that far? I guess it's possible, but

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Speaker 3: I mean that's the first true corner off the board.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty late for that to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we saw first offensive lineman going to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a weird draft.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals at seventeen take Shamar Stewart defense of lineman

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Speaker 3: M fits their mold of big bodied, long wall dressers

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Speaker 2: At eighteen, the Seahawks take nick Imuwari safety out of

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Speaker 3: I think I read Mels right up on it saying

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Speaker 3: he could be there Hamilton, Yeah, which makes sense. But

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Speaker 3: the offense is so decimated right now. But they do

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Speaker 2: At nineteen, the Buccaneers take Ghad Campbell, linebacker out of Alabama.

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Speaker 3: I can't think he'll pass there. I think that's their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got Levonte David back. You get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of not what happened with Devin White. Right.

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Speaker 2: At twenty, the Broncos take Tedteroa McMillan, the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some kind of weapon makes sense there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Hampton's gone, the two tight ends are gone.

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Speaker 2: At twenty one, the Steelers take Derek Carmen defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: I could see it.

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Speaker 2: At twenty two, the Chargers take Matthew Golden wide receiver

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Speaker 3: I would think it's some kind of receiver. Yeah, one

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Speaker 2: This doesn't make much sense. At twenty three, the Packers

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Speaker 2: take a Mecca Agbuca wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: From Ohio State and more of the same.

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Speaker 2: Why would they want unless you're gonna move one of

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Speaker 3: All right. I don't think Watson's gonna play all year,

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Speaker 3: That'd be a nice pickup. Yeah, yeah, that makes a

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Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Texans take Josh Simmons offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: Absolutely could make sense. I mean, they had signed Cam

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Speaker 2: At twenty six, the Rams take Azerier Thomas cornerback out

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Speaker 3: Okay, I could absolutely see that. I mocked the Kentucky

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Speaker 2: At twenty seven, the Ravens take Malachi Starks safety at it.

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Speaker 3: We just talked about, you know, a safety of guard

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Speaker 3: edge defender would all make sense. But there's two, two

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight, the Lions take James Pearce, James Pearce edge

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Speaker 3: Absolutely cold. See that he could be a part time

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Speaker 2: At twenty nine, the Commanders take Maxwell Hairston cornerback out

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Speaker 3: Okay, they'd be pretty strong with Saintstrolle Latimore him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he should be, and they all kind of find

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Speaker 2: At thirty the Bills take Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle out

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Speaker 2: And at thirty one, Kelvin Banks junior, the offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: It's about as late as I've seen him go. I

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Speaker 2: And at thirty two, Walter Nolan, defensive tackle from Ole Miss,

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Speaker 3: That'd be one of those cases where it's like, man,

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Speaker 3: you just gave a really talented guy to the team

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Speaker 3: that develops those dudes super.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing as thinking about as we're going

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Speaker 2: through this. Okay, So the Steelers take Harmon at twenty one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they almost always go defense in the first round.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings have a definite need. They're not taking a

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Has to be an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a wide out.

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Speaker 3: I think they could take Grants the Michigan connection, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: pass catchers a bigger.

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Speaker 2: Need Michigan connection with the Rams.

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Speaker 3: no they will not.

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Speaker 2: They signed, they're good, Ye're good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they will not go detackle.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, would the Ravens go defensive tackle at twenty seven?

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Speaker 3: Just getting any quality Day two pick would be really nice.

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Speaker 2: what I've done then is traded. I traded my second

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Speaker 3: That sounds pretty good. Yeah, and you still get your guy, and.

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Speaker 2: You still get your guy, you still get the defensive

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Speaker 3: All three of them not going in the top twenty, right,

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Speaker 2: We just went through that. I didn't think any of those.

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Speaker 2: Has to be, has to be with Hubbard retiring.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, who's the surprise team? The Niners

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Speaker 2: Probably? Probably the only one I can see The only

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Speaker 3: Yeah, someone might love Grant. Yeah, I could see that too.

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Speaker 3: Sets up pretty well. Yeah, I mean back to a

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Speaker 2: I would too, Yeah, I would to just and they've

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Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with you, we did our defensive

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Speaker 3: I'm very unimpressed as great prospects go. He's small with

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Speaker 2: Would not surprise me. If that's not the case, it

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Speaker 3: Or stride like. We just went through Mel's draft and

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Speaker 2: Why this is a good defensive tackle draft. I think

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Speaker 2: to talk. There's no top ten guy that I look like,

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Speaker 3: A war daddy from Alabama. Yes, you know whoa it

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Speaker 2: There's no Jalen Carter here. No, not even in terms

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Speaker 3: Guy, right right right. I mean, I know Jeffrey Simmons

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Speaker 2: But Grant could be Dexter Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: Yes he could, he could, he could.

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Speaker 2: He just hasn't consistently. He's really only been a starter

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Speaker 3: No, I think his best is ahead of him. He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I have him number one.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think Nolan could be too.

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Speaker 2: I had Nolan number I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: I think you had Nolan too.

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Speaker 2: I had Nolan too.

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Speaker 3: I know the guts to move Graham all the way

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Speaker 2: You did watch the tape and it's like, yeah, he's good,

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Speaker 3: You start, then you show me the measurables and stuff. Though,

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Speaker 3: it's like, what's so great about him? Two hundred ninety

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll be a good player, but he's not

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Speaker 2: It's not trans transformation.

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Speaker 3: Indiana and Illinois on Sundays. Right. Yeah, again, he's probably safe,

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Speaker 3: He rushes the passer. Well, I mean the best thing

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Speaker 3: he does that was his third and long. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not somebody we'll get a double that guy

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh yeah, he's not Cam No, absolutely not. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he worries me. It's a high investment pick. Yeah, I'm sure,

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Speaker 3: hope we could be okay, but he's not gonna be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. But anyways, that was

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Speaker 3: That's like two second.

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Speaker 2: That's the second one. There'll be more coming out here,

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Speaker 2: but that was his second mock draft, his second tryadd

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Speaker 3: Stuff's obviously interesting.

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Speaker 2: They're here, he and DJ are both hearing this somewhere,

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Speaker 2: I can't see twenty one. I definitely can't see nine.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think that's crazy, especially for the

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Speaker 2: I would be open for business for that too. I

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Speaker 2: I'm interested.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm definitely interested.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because I'm going to I'm going to gain.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. But anyways, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: Then welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and I put out a little thing on

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Speaker 2: the ex Twitter. Yeah for the show's here, but the

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Speaker 2: and won't answer them today on the drive.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is that time that came flooding in.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of questions here and so let's

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Speaker 3: We go, Let's roll yes, trag as manyon as we can. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Archie Wilson says, it's clear that D line is a

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Speaker 2: key need and that most one that most people walking

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Speaker 2: more realistic names that other positions you would take over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, question I need to redo at some point,

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Speaker 3: Nolan Grant, who are you taking before those guys. That's realistic,

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Speaker 3: not Hampton.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Gent's not going to be there.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think he's realistic. I don't think the

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Speaker 2: He's not taking any of the wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: I'm not taking Dart no offensive player, I guess is

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Speaker 3: the bottom line? Yeah, maybe the answer is none. I mean,

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Speaker 3: would you take Will Johnson's gonna throw him out there?

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Speaker 3: If he were there and he tests, okay, I would

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Speaker 3: think about it, you know, if you had him, it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't break my heart. But feeling pretty decent about the

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Speaker 3: corner situation, and if I don't have a second round pick,

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Speaker 3: that third round d lineman's not given like the third

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Speaker 3: round corner or other positions you're gonna need.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he might need to play right away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I might even take him Warren. I mean, like

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Speaker 3: I'm having a hard time of realistic.

444
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: I want to say it's a defensive lineman or bust,

445
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 2: but it's.

446
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 3: Kind of getting that way after the way free agency

447
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: shaped up. Yeah, I got Metcalf and.

448
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, you're pretty set as a lot of

449
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 2: the other positions, and that's when you don't you're not I.

450
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 3: Mean like you can't tell me Membos going to be there. Yeah,

451
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 3: I mean Hunter obviously, so I don't see it. I

452
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 3: mean you'd almost have to get shut out at the

453
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: lineman or you move down thinking, okay, we're gonna move

454
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: to thirty and one of those three's there, but they

455
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: all went, you know, well, then okay, that's right.

456
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then you're not moving to thirty,

457
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 2: right right right. You would move to maybe twenty four,

458
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: twenty five, but you're not going to thirty if you

459
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna get those guys right right.

460
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes he's got to roll the dice and

461
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: sometimes it comes to snake eyes, but man.

462
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: I know they won't do that.

463
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, there would be ten guys that they're happy with.

464
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: Jared who is at Steelers one seven Underscore one seventeen

465
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: s appreciate the show, Fellas little What would you rather

466
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 2: John A. Barron and Alfred Collins as your first and

467
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: third picks, or room together Kenneth Grant and Jalen Royals

468
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: as you're for one to three. I'd love to solidify

469
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: the secondary, but back to back defensive picks when the

470
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: O needs help. Was a tough one. Well, they just

471
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: traded for DK Metcalf, Jared and George Pickens is still

472
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: on the team. But who do you say the first

473
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: one was Johnny Baron and Alfred Collins, right, the second

474
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: one was Kenneth's Grant and Jalen Royals. He's saying that

475
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: back to back defensive picks.

476
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could probably take the Texas too.

477
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: If I'm taking an offensive player in the third round,

478
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: it's a running back.

479
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: It's a running back right now. I don't think drafting

480
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: the receivers off the table. No, I your second selection,

481
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: I think it's off the table.

482
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you use your second pick, your second round pick,

483
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: to acquire a wide receiver who's your number one?

484
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: And I don't think Baron's a need, but boy would

485
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 3: be nice. Nice to have you talking about really making

486
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: a secondary pretty awesome. Yeah, And as we just talked

487
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: up Grant to no end, but Collins would do the trick.

488
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 3: Collins is good and they kind of look the same

489
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 3: when they walk in the door, and there's a lot

490
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: of beef and your d line would be real happy

491
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Speaker 3: to see the one.

492
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: I don't know they pick eighty three, I don't know

493
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: that's the problem with that.

494
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 3: I think the receivers the fly in the ointment there though. Yeah,

495
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: you know, so give me the Texas to.

496
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: Oh uh, you're gonna do the Texas two step yeah, yeah,

497
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: her Turma Nader Turma and then he and his capitalized

498
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: who is Nathaniel Clark forty or Nathana Clark eight? Asked

499
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: what happened to all the talk about trading for Trevor Lawrence.

500
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 2: It was a good idea a few weeks ago. What happened, Well,

501
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: it wasn't a good idea because they're not willing to

502
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: do it and the Steelers didn't call about it.

503
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: I don't think the Jags have any interest whatsoever in

504
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: doing it. I think it was all made up.

505
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, that's why I went away. There was

506
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: something about that I saw a week ago where somebody

507
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: came out and said, yeah that the It wasn't the

508
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: Steelers that called about Trevor Lawrence. It was Seattle.

509
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, they they had intentions of moving their quarterback

510
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: bah and anyone could call.

511
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: Anybody can call by anybody.

512
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Jackson was any desire to move.

513
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: They're not moving him and he has Oh by the way,

514
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: no trade class in his contract.

515
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: And when it was rumored to happen, they didn't have

516
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 3: a GM right.

517
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: Other than that, it was a perfectly good room.

518
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: It's a great story, yeah, but that's why it went

519
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 3: away because it was dumb and didn't happen.

520
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: It didn't it was made up.

521
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

522
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: Derek Manton, who is at Debo Underscore two two eight,

523
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: asks what round do you think Tyler Shuck will go?

524
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: Early? Second?

525
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: I think he goes somewhere in a second. I don't

526
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: know about early, but somewhere.

527
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: I think it'll be fourth quarterback off the board. What

528
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: I will there be four teams. Let's say Ward's gone,

529
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: I mean Ward goes one, the Titans are done. I

530
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: would think Giants and Browns. Who's the fourth team?

531
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: If it's not the Steal That's the question I was

532
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: going to ask, who was that team? This going to

533
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: take a second round quarterback? The Rams?

534
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking like the Rams, the Raiders, someone with an

535
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: old established. But we can we have job security. I'm

536
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: sure there's Jets early second round Jets. There's probably others,

537
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, there's not a shortage of teams

538
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 3: that could use them. But the problem is with him

539
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: in particular, if you think Stafford's around two years, Chuck's

540
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: twenty eight when he takes over.

541
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: Right, I mean he's only got two years left on

542
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: his deal.

543
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean if you think you get two

544
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: years out of Gino or Stafford, Shock might not be

545
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: the guy to sit around and wait for two years, right,

546
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: considering his age, which his age doesn't bother me for

547
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 3: the Steelers. But if it's a two year, his window

548
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: doesn't open on my team for two more years, Well

549
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: then he's twenty eight. Yeah, but I still think he

550
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 3: goes I think goes before the steal. Well, I think

551
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: goes the top fifty.

552
00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Joe mccersick and acoustic, I should say, at Joe mccousick.

553
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: How about that. This guy's name is so rare, he

554
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: actually is the the at Joe mccousick. Okay, call him,

555
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: this is the Joe mccousick. What do you think the

556
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: Steelers would do at twenty one if all the best

557
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: defensive tackles are gone?

558
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: Similar to the earlier question, well, if.

559
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: All of them are gone, that means somebody else fell.

560
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: Somebody strange is there that you didn't expect?

561
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's a john a Baron or it's Baron,

562
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: might be Will Johnson, or it's Omari and Hampton.

563
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: Would you consider Golden? No, would you consider Warren.

564
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm out of the I'm out of the wide receiver market.

565
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: At this point. Warren and something weird would have to

566
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: be there.

567
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 2: Warren's gonna go top ten.

568
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: I think so too. I think that's a reach. I

569
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: would say.

570
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: Hampton, probably some Hampton or one of yeah.

571
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: Revel if he was one hundred percent. I mean, I

572
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 3: think you're real open for business for trade now.

573
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be happy about it. There's probably gonna

574
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: be an offensive lineman there at that point that somebody

575
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: wants to come up again.

576
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: You wouldn't pivot the d T four.

577
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: No, No, I would that's bad business.

578
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't either. I can't take one of

579
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: the safeties after the Thornhill signing. No, if it wasn't there,

580
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: I'd be like I could see Yeah.

581
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: Maybe brian O'Donnell asks, and he is.

582
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: Really feels like or bust kind more go through every angle.

583
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Brian O'Donnell, who is at brian O nineteen sixty three

584
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: said is waiting for Rogers and supposed salary, preventing us

585
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: from spending on other possible free agents.

586
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: No, I don't think.

587
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: There's nobody out there who you're going to spend a

588
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: bunch of money on.

589
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: Now, Like every team, they may have been interested in

590
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: somebody that chose elsewhere or that you know, they weren't

591
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: going to meet their demands. But that happens every team

592
00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: in every free agency.

593
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: And I don't know the Steelers could have looked at

594
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: it with either one of the two guys that signed

595
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: with Minnesota, yeah, and said, okay, this is and I'm

596
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: sure there recalls mate, Yeah, yeah, yeah, here's what we're

597
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: here's what we're willing to offer the tackles either yeah,

598
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: sure you're talking about right, this is this is our offer.

599
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: And Minnesota came in higher, all right, we weren't willing

600
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: going higher than that.

601
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: It's like recruiting. You're not going to get everyone you want.

602
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: It's the way it works. They have so much money.

603
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: I don't think it's handcuffed them in any way.

604
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: And I saw a thing today somebody put out a

605
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: chart on free agents spending thus far, and the Steelers

606
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: were last on that. Of course people will aren't they

607
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: spending that money doesn't count. Metcalf doesn't count. Right. They

608
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: spent thirty million dollars a year on a wide receiver.

609
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there is another big one to come.

610
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, who quarterback? You're going to get paid.

611
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: Right, right? Right? So a little misleading, yeah, yeah, it

612
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they're being cheap or not doing anything like

613
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: cowboys aren't doing anything, right, you know?

614
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: But right now, I mean, at this point, you're the

615
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: guys who you're going to sign other than some of

616
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: the wide receivers that are out there, and they're probably

617
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: gonna up signing one year deals.

618
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I would think.

619
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: So it's not going to be a big contract that

620
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: it's going to take away your your quarterback money.

621
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: Now, I don't think it's prohibiting at all.

622
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 2: They just always go into things with a here's our

623
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: set price. We're not going to go above this, and

624
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: if you don't want it. Jonathan Allen doesn't want that,

625
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: all right, he wants to they're offering twenty, we're offering seventeen. Okay,

626
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: when we're not going to offer twenty one.

627
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: Right by a right, and we're offering seventeen. Please get

628
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: back to us before you sign. We'll consider it. But

629
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: we could go to seventeen five. Yeah, he can't go

630
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: to twenty one, you know, right? Yeah? Right?

631
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: Uh Chris Maxwell, who is at the body Max Tassi

632
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: at body Max Tassy. Okay, so do you think.

633
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: Side note sometimes you gotta be Careful's why I'm reading

634
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: them out here. I've fallen victim at time. Yeah. At memory,

635
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I probably shouldn't have said that.

636
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Do you think the way mister Roun he let Colbert

637
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: run the draft before retirement was a big mistake because

638
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: most gms want to be tied to their own players,

639
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: especially at the quarterback position. I'm not sure I necessarily

640
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: the question. All Steeler draft picks are a consensus pick.

641
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's these not Kevin sitting in the throne

642
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 3: just picking guys.

643
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: Art's right there with him, Mike Tomlin is right there

644
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: with him. They come to a consensus on it before

645
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: the draft, not during. That's why oftentimes when the Steelers

646
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: pick would come up, they would already have it made

647
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: because they've got their board ranked and he's the top guy.

648
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: That's who we're taking.

649
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, every team does it differently, but I can even

650
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: say for my year with the Browns, especially in the

651
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: first like five rounds. The room where the pick came from,

652
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: there was only like three or four human beings and

653
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: the owner could come and go if he wants. Of

654
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: course he wasn't involved as mister Rooney, but we had

655
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: all set our piece as scouts.

656
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: It's all done right, right right.

657
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: We could stand on the table and yell for our

658
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: guy to the cows come home and they can listen

659
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: or not. But we're not in that tax bracket and

660
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: we don't make that decision. And the Steelers, and with

661
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: Kevin at the time, he wasn't almighty, just sitting there

662
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: making picks.

663
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: Right now, every pick has talked about ad nauseum and

664
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: they just they come to a steel That's why they

665
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: call it a Steeler pick. Kevin never stood up there

666
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: and said this is my pick. Yeah, you know, Mike

667
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: tom has never gone there. This is the pick I

668
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: had to have. No, it's a it's a steeler's consensus pick.

669
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: It might not be the guy that Kevin Colbert wanted,

670
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: it might not be the guy that Mike Tomlin wanted.

671
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: But the most I should say, yeah, but they're guys

672
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: that they both this is the Okay, here's the guy.

673
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: This is what he graded out as in our scale.

674
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: This is the guy. This is the way we want

675
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: to go.

676
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: I mean again, I'm kind of making this up. But

677
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: if there are five names that they're considering in round two,

678
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: Kevin's second pick is this guy. Mike's second pick is

679
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: this guy. They don't have the same number one will

680
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: take that guy. You know, he's not our last choice,

681
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: but he's not my first choice. But we both are

682
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 3: pretty happy. And mister Rooney says that seems like the

683
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: logical choice if we're all pretty high on him and

684
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: you made strong cases or whatever. I will tell you too.

685
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: Not every coach is at Pro Days right now either, right, Yeah,

686
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: I mean Mike Tomlin's more involved in this than most.

687
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: He is very involved in Yeah. Matt Sable, who is

688
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: at Matt t Sable says, are you surprised there weren't

689
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: more coaching changes or special assistants added? After coach Tomlan

690
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: promised changes at his season ending press conference. Here's the thing, Matt.

691
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: When people hear something like that, they assume that means

692
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: coaching changes. Yeah, saying that there are going to be

693
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: changes can also mean the changes in the way that

694
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: you do things. We got to fire these guys and

695
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: bring in these This whole news staff. The Steelers coaching

696
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: staff has turned over tremendously over the last two years.

697
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: There aren't a lot of coaches on this staff who've

698
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: been here long term. True, it's been there's a bunch

699
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: They had a bunch of new guys come in last year.

700
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: Not Dick Coke here for fifty years now.

701
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Danny Smith is your longest tenured guys, like twenty twelve

702
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: or twenty something like that. You know, So it's not

703
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: a situation when you unifire Arthur Smith after one year,

704
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: you know. No, he and Arthur brought in a bunch

705
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 2: of his own guys with him. Sure, you know, the

706
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: receivers coach and a new quarterbacks coaching. So there is

707
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: a lot of newness on the staff already. But you

708
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: can look at how you do things. You can look

709
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: when Mike Tomlin talks about changes or we're going to

710
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: do things differently, or we're gonna you're gonna see it

711
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: could be as simple as how he runs training camp,

712
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: how the offseason program is run.

713
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: That's the angle I was going to take, and I

714
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: was going to look at it more of game day prep.

715
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: Everyone has a job. You know, the second the final

716
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: whistle ends, you meet with your position group or whatever.

717
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: You do. You get your shower, you get on the plane.

718
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: You might even start watching Ravens next week on the plane, right,

719
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: I mean I know that happen. I mean, I'm sure

720
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: it does. And certainly they get to the office the

721
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: next day. Just won a game in week twelve and

722
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: we got to prepare for week thirteen. That maybe to

723
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: what they made a linebacker coach change, right, yeah, maybe

724
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: whatever that former linebackers coach job was on Mondays and Tuesdays,

725
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin wasn't happy with, you know, whatever his job was.

726
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: They all have their job, you know, and it's not

727
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 3: just watch the opposing running backs or watch your own linebackers.

728
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: It's you got third down, a red zone, you got

729
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 3: you know, all these situations. Things get split up. Yeah,

730
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: they all have their job. And maybe he just said

731
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: I don't I think you're a good coach and your

732
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: coach your guys, well, but I don't like your game

733
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 3: day prep for us, and I'm gonna try someone else

734
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: or switch your jobs, you know, like, Okay, now you're

735
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: the third down.

736
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 2: Guy, you wear the run game coordinator but that really

737
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: isn't for you, yeah, right.

738
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: Right, you know, and so there and they'll never tell

739
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: us that stuff. No, you know, right again, trading camp

740
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: responsibilities and all that type of thing too. I mean,

741
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: so their assignments could be different, right, So I mean

742
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: and there was some change. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I

743
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: think that's the bigger thing. We'll get to one more

744
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: here before we get to a break. We'll get to

745
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: the rest of them.

746
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: Were the show here Elon mess and he is at

747
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: big big wall style asks who would you like to

748
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: stealers see the Steelers play in Ireland? Also, considering the

749
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: importance of quarterbacks in the NFL, please do more super

750
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 2: flex fantasy drafts this year. We can do that, Yeah,

751
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: we can do that. So in terms of who the

752
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: Steelers play in Ireland, honestly, I don't really care. Yeah,

753
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: but I mean, if you really do the math, who

754
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: they could end up playing.

755
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: It's pretty narrow list. Yeah, it's not gonna be a well,

756
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: there's only nine games that are home. Four of them

757
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: or three of them are against division teams, can be

758
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: one of them.

759
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 2: I think three of the other teams are already going

760
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: overseas to place that knocks it down to like three

761
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: teams I think is the Vikings, the Packers and Seahawks

762
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: are the only ones.

763
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 3: That Yeah, so it's one of those three.

764
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: One of those three. Do you have a preference? Do

765
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: you prefer well, I mean, if you want to look

766
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: at it this, I'm having a competitive advantage. Yeah, make

767
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: it the Seahawks a long trip. The outside of that, they.

768
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: Got a whole continent to fly over before they even

769
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: get to U. You know, yeah, I hope it's see

770
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: the Seahawks.

771
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: The Vikings apparently have had a lot of success in

772
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: Ireland over the years.

773
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: That you're saying history.

774
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: Actually the Vikings actually founded Dublin was founded by Vikings.

775
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: Okay, so there you go. So I don't know.

776
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Do you know what their home court?

777
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, stay away from them, Yeah, the pillage.

778
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: Anyway, let's get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

779
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. We'll be back with more questions.

780
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: We had a bunch on here. I really like if

781
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 2: you want to throw another one in and last minute

782
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: has gotten on here. I like this, But he's Matt Williamson,

783
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. We'll be back with more right after.

784
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: This, at least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

785
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: Matt Williamsons on your twenty four to seven Home of

786
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation.

787
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: Radio, and we're back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

788
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we got a bunch of questions still

789
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: here to get through, Matt, So let's do these a

790
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: little more rapid fire. Terry Everett asks, if Rogers chooses

791
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: to retire or the Steelers say we don't want to

792
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: wait any longer for you to make this choice, what

793
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: do you think the chances are of Rudolph being the

794
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: day one starter? Tomlin has proved he can win with

795
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: lesser quarterbacks. I still don't know that it's super high.

796
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: I think that I would say, Slim would be my.

797
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: They would bring somebody else in, whether that be Russell Wilson,

798
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: there'd be.

799
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: I still think it'd be cousins car or Wilson. Yeah,

800
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 3: or they would go there someone to be named later

801
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: that I don't quite understand that you know, that becomes

802
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: available or something like that. I can't imagine. Just Rudolph

803
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: is the unquestioned week one starter in any capacity.

804
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: No. Mike five, six, seven eight asks, my personal view

805
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: is the Steelers need a defensive lineman for the first selection,

806
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: then again in the fourth round. That leaves two picks

807
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: round two to pick a wide receiver. Well, that's already happening.

808
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: I did that right, That's that's DK metcalf. They don't

809
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: have a second round pick. Where does this leave them

810
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: in round three? Running back, a cornerback, or perhaps a linebacker.

811
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: It's running back for me. If you if you're going

812
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: to go fourth round with a defensive lineman.

813
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: I love your thought of one in four being d line.

814
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

815
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: I think that's a real good spot for both. And

816
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: I can't wait till five for running back. No, then

817
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 3: linebackers off the table, now, yeah.

818
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

819
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

820
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: Joseph Aber asked, I don't think Nausey is taking big

821
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: swings at the Steelers. In fact, what he's saying makes

822
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. What do you all think about

823
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: his comments?

824
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: What he don't think? We've made it sound like he

825
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 3: was no.

826
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: When I'm talking about that, I'm talking about his his

827
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: views on the facility and things of that nature. His

828
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: feelings on what the team was at that time are valid.

829
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: It was a very young offense. When he talks about

830
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have any you know, leadership that

831
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: he was there.

832
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: For the they're looking for veteran leadership.

833
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: Last year of Ben Roethlisberger was his rookie year and

834
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: then you brought in a whole new quarterback room basically

835
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 2: with Rudolph being the holdover.

836
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

837
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: They were super young.

838
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's something.

839
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: And he was expected to step up as a leader.

840
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: Sure, and I think he did to some capacity, I mean,

841
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: but still it's hard for young guys. Back to that conversation,

842
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: I do find it interesting that a lot of these

843
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: guys are at the podium talking about their old team.

844
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: For one, I've only played for one NFL team, Yeah,

845
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: and haven't even played for the second one yet. They've

846
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: visited the facilities and that kind of thing, and it's

847
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: going to be a massive adjustment, you know.

848
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: Like, oh, absolutely, the first league. The first time Naji

849
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: Harris walks out of the stadium out on the SOFI

850
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: field and the stadium is eighty percent filmed with opposing

851
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: teams fans, it's going to be culture shock for him.

852
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that first stop was the first time he

853
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: didn't get the what he chose to go to Alabama

854
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: or you know I'm a single out nausey, but okay,

855
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: you didn't get you didn't get the pick that the

856
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 3: Steelers drafted you.

857
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, Michael Odesso says, I say, this is

858
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: a great question to ask her. By the way, I

859
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: say this with all due respect, I mean as I'm

860
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: a huge fan of the show. But after years and

861
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: years of bashing the Bills and Dolphins for not having

862
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: big running backs that can play in snow and weather,

863
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: how do you keep mocking Trevon Henderson to the Steelers?

864
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: Who's going to be that big back on the roster.

865
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: It's a good it's a good question.

866
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: It may be a shift in how they want to

867
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: do things. And again, Jalen Warren is not a small.

868
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: Back, right right? And frankly, boyd, did I've I have

869
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: bashed Miami a lot over the years.

870
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: For Miami's different Miami was built completely on.

871
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: Speed, right, and far too much and no lineman. I

872
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: mean they don't have two first round pick tackles. Things

873
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: like that too. All their running backs are four two

874
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: four three.

875
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: And they paid no attention to their offensive line. The

876
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: Bills have paid attention to their offensive line.

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Speaker 3: The Bills have vastly changed how they played.

878
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: Cook's a two hundred and ten pound running back.

879
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've Ray Davis, but they changed not necessarily

880
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: the ball carriers. Oh, their quarterbacks are big, yeah, dude,

881
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: but they're a real heavy six to zero line team.

882
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: And I don't know that either one of us know

883
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: the answer to what kind of back the Steelers are after.

884
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: It could be Martinez, who's a banger.

885
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: Right, you know, GBS. How did we end up in

886
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: this quarterback situation? Can we risk trading down and trying

887
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: to pick up a second round pick and possibly losing

888
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: out on the top line of defensive line players. Well,

889
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: first of all, the quarterback situation is what it is.

890
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: You knew going into this. There was no franchise quarterback

891
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: that was going to be available.

892
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean, the names we brought up weeks before free agency,

893
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: the only one that's still not in the mix is

894
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Speaker 3: really Fields. Yeah. I don't think Arnold was ever part

895
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 3: of the mix. Stafford really wasn't, right. I mean, I

896
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: don't think either one of those guys were going to

897
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: be Steelers at any point. So what's really changed other

898
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: than Fields as a jet and I don't think they

899
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: had all their chips in that bassom.

900
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: No, they did not. As for a risking trading down,

901
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: we just talked. We just talked about that in the

902
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: opening segment there.

903
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: It goes, but there's three really capable ones that if

904
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: they're all sitting there at twenty one.

905
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob and Tennessee said, no question, but this is

906
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: a cool idea. I hope you do it more often. Well,

907
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: thank you, Bob. Should Yeah, Marco Ramera and Navarro said,

908
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: would you mind expanding how quarterback Rogers would fit in

909
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith's offense? And in terms of team building? What

910
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: else can the front office do to improve the odds

911
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: of success of Rogers as the hypothetical quarterback for the

912
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Steelers. Aaron Rodgers fits into a lot

913
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: of offenses. And I think you know you're going to

914
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: cater to Aaron Rodgers' abilities, which is throwing over the

915
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: middle more often, maybe run more slants, not that they

916
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: didn't run slants before, but you got to be willing

917
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: to throw them.

918
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I do have some questions concerns, not necessarily negative,

919
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: but the Arthur Smith offense schematically and the Rogers one

920
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: schematically are different. Yeah, I mean they would have to

921
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: We've seen this all throughout history. Here's a little ideas,

922
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: here's a little your ideas. But I definitely think you'd

923
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: see way more over the middle, throws more inbreakers.

924
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: Quick slangs once you get the ball out quickly. Yeah,

925
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: and it would go back to more of a Ben

926
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger type offense where you take your shlf and see yeah.

927
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'd be a lot less boom or bust.

928
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, especially Wilson, but the quarterbacks

929
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: of late have had a chipper and a driver, and

930
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: you know they don't have a five iron, where Rogers

931
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: has a great five iron, you know, So I think

932
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 3: there's more clubs in his bag, assuming he's as willing

933
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: as out in as he can be. You know.

934
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's try to get to these last few questions here.

935
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: Seth says on your mock episode, you frequently discuss the

936
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Speaker 2: idea of trading back, especially after the DK trade. Obviously

937
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: it takes two to tango. While it's impossible to know

938
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: who would trade up because we don't know who's on

939
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: the board today, what organizations do you think would be

940
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: good trade partners? I think we've talked a lot about

941
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: that he talked about it today with some of those

942
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: teams in the mid twenties.

943
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: My biggest concern is who's the player of the people

944
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: that's going to be the key, because you might not

945
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: be able to get out of twenty.

946
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: One Thomas Hans, Do you think they'll draft multiple quarterbacks?

947
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: I do not. No, I don't see two quarterbacks getting drafted.

948
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: Paul asks in a vacuum without knowing who's available on

949
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: the board. Would you rather have A one a first

950
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Speaker 2: round pick and no second round pick, or B no

951
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: first round pick and two second round picks, say fifty

952
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: and fifty five.

953
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: In this draft, I'll take B. Most years, I'd probably

954
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: take A.

955
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: I would love to get back into the second round.

956
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean fifty to fifty five is a

957
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: long time to way. I mean you're sitting around doing

958
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 3: nothing on day one.

959
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: Paul also asked as taking dart Shuck or mil Row

960
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: this year preclude you from going all in on a

961
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: first round quarterback next year.

962
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: No, nothing should, right.

963
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: If the guys there that you think is a star,

964
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: you take them.

965
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you think it may.

966
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: I mean all in. If I'm trading multiple picks to

967
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 2: go get the guy that might be a little bit different.

968
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: There's a chance one of those guys is so promising

969
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: after a year in a Steeler uniform. But you don't

970
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: feel like you're in the quarterback market anymore, if that's

971
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: the point. But taking one now is on, like, how're done?

972
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: And finally, Paul hurshas, why aren't they focusing on the

973
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: offensive line. Can't have a good running game with a

974
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: passing game without one. Any quarterback in the league can

975
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: be great with a great offensive line, Paul. They've drafted,

976
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 2: they've gone pretty great, five offensive linemen in the last

977
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: two years, including three with premium picks. How much more

978
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: focus do you want them to be on the offensive line?

979
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's been pretty crazy since Omar's taken over.

980
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: That has been the focus.

981
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

982
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: I'm a little shocked there hasn't been one free agent

983
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: or one more guys, you know, right.

984
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still time for that.

985
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

986
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Speaker 2: Anyways, some good questions on there, and we will have

987
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Speaker 2: to do this again. Maybe next week we'll throw it

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Speaker 2: in we make Thursday thing, but that's going to do

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Speaker 2: it for our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

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