1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Let not your heart be troubled. You are listening to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Radio Show podcast. But it is wonderful 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: to be back in this great state and to push 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: all of the historic tax cuts. You know, this was 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: about the first place I announced that we were going 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: to be asking for massive tax cuts, and everybody said 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: it will never happen, hasn't happened since Ronald Reagan to 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: any scale, and uh, it didn't even come close since then. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: And we got it not only passed, but bigger than 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: anything ever passed in the history of our country. And 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: we're now going for a phase two. We're actually going 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: for a phase two which will help UH in addition 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: to middle class, will help companies, and it's going to 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: be something I think very special. Kevin Brady is working 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: on it with me, Congress is working, the Senate's working 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, on the original we didn't have one Democrat vote, 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: which is pretty incredible, and now they're regretting it. But 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: we're going to do a phase two and it's going 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: to be something I think that will really be a 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: big incentive to do a lot of things just like 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: we're doing right here, and a tremendous incentive for the workers. 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: All right, that's the President talking about phase two of 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: the tax cuts, which, by the way, is only going 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: to help further create more jobs and prosperity in America, 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: and we're already seeing huge impact in a lot of 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: different ways. Anyway, Governor Mike Huckabee is with us, former 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, former Arkansas governor. How are you, sir, Welcome 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: back to the program. Always great to have you. Well, 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sean. Always a pleasure to be visiting. And 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that you have relentlessly tried to 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: bring some perspective and truth to this whole idea of 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Russian collusion, which so far not a shred of evidence 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: exists that the Trump organization or Donald Trump personally had 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: a thing to do with it. You know that that 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: to me is the most unbelievable thing. And after fourteen months, 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: it was so funny a Megan McCain, God bless her, 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: was on the view and had, you know, shiftless Adam 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: schiff on whether this guy has had over two TV 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: appearances and all he has done is laid out lies 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: in innuendow and then when confronted, okay, you've had fourteen months. 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: Give us the evidence, he said, Wow, it's already out 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: there in the in the public arena. Let me play 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: it for you. You You said you had more than circumstantial 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia. What specifically were you 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: referring to? And please be specific, because if it's true, 46 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: I do believe Americans have the right to know a 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: year later what that is. Well, I certainly certainly said 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: that there's ample evidence of collusion. I've never used the 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: word treason. Only Steve Bannon has used that word. Um, 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: but if you look at the facts that are already 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: in the public domain, they're pretty damning enough for Mueller 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: to bring charges. Because if it isn't enough for Muller 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: to bring charges, what does that mean? Well, what do 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: it mean charges? This is a very important question, um, 55 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: And that is what's Mueller's job and what's hard job. 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Bob Muller will make the decision whether there is proof 57 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt to indicte and convict people. It 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: is not his responsibility to tell the country what happened. Uh, yeah, 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: it actually would be his mandate and responsibility. So what 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: he's basically saying, so there won't be any evidence that 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: we can indicte anybody on any collusion, but we're going 62 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: to insinuate it happened anyway. And we've discovered that the 63 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: only real collusion happened with Hillary's campaign paying for Russian 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: lies and propaganda so she could fix a general election 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: after we know she fixed the primary election. Governor. It's 66 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: interesting every time I hear Adam Schiff at the end 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: of whether it's the Congressional investigation or whatever report has 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: come out, he always says, but you know, there's still 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: more that we are having to look for. I'm convinced 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Adam shift is the guy still looking for bigfoot sasquatch 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: and you know, the unicorn. I think you're probably that 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: he never finds it, because if it could be found, 73 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Adam Schill, I'll call him a 74 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: shill for the left, he would have found it by now. 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: There's just no evidence, and nobody has been able to 76 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: come forward and say, you know, we've got some smoke 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: here that's got to be fired. There's not even the 78 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: smoke yet. So Sean, I I wanted to be a 79 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: clean country where our politicians do the right things, but 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: we can't afford to have a country where our process 81 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: of the government is up ended by people who won't 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: let their political bitterness go and allow a duly elected 83 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: public official to do the job to which he was entrusted. 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: And that's what we're seeing. It's been an attempt to 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: undermine President Trump from the get go, and don't We've 86 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: never seen anything like this in our lifetime. And it's ongoing, 87 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: and it's almost universe. It's almost everybody in the news media. 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm going to tell you something, Governor, 89 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time now doing more reporting 90 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: than I've ever done in my career. And we have 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: a great team we've assembled, you know, Sarah Carter and 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: John Solomon and Greg Jarrett and Tom Fitton. Then j 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Secular has been amazing too, and there are others. I'm 94 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: gonna forget some. Dr Gork has been great, and I 95 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: would argue that we break more news on this radio 96 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: program and more news on my television program. And we 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: have real evidence of what happened, who paid for the 98 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: pony Russian dossier we have. We've broken more stories about 99 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: a FISA warrant that was issued in spite of many denials. 100 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: We have broken the fact that there was an exoneration 101 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: of Hillary after she committed many felonies before they even 102 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: did an investigation. And the rest of the media, I 103 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: mean almost everybody, exclusively in journalism, totally ignores it. Well, 104 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: when of all the coverage of President Trump is negative, 105 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: there's no objective person alive who could possibly say that 106 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: that is a representative reporting of what is actually happened 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: in his presidency. I get it that people don't like Trump. 108 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: I get it that some people think he's or he's crude. 109 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: Are his past is uh somehow relevant to what he's doing? Is? 110 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: I get all of that, But it comes down to this. 111 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: The media says Donald Trump has attacked the media. No, 112 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: the media has attacked their own credibility by proving that 113 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: they're not objective about this administration. They do not want 114 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: to report and let people decide. They want to steer 115 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: people to a particular point of view. That's not journalism, 116 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: that's editorialism. And we have lost the idea of journalism. 117 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: What do you what do you make of what's going 118 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: on with Vladimir Putin and Great Britain and Russia vowing 119 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: revenge and the Prime Minister May kicking out twenty three 120 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: Russian spies from the UK and blasting Vladimir Putin's contempt 121 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: for the Salisbury poisoning. And we we have all of that. 122 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: Nikki Heley yesterday warning that Russia could use chemical weapons 123 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: in New York, which is pretty scary. There was a 124 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: report that has come out that the US military over 125 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: a decade behind China and Russia as it relates to 126 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: space defense. Um, I'm getting really concerned that America has 127 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: taken its eye off the ball here. I think the 128 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: equal point, though, is that Vladimir Putin is isolating himself 129 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: from the civilized world actions like this one that happened 130 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: in the UK, the fact that the world is standing 131 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: up to him, not just Theresa May, but today the 132 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: Trump administration put out new sanctions. So if he's colluding 133 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: with Russia, why is he punishing them so abruptly and 134 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: so harshly. I do know one thing. If I ever 135 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: do go to Moscow, I'm not having dinner with Vladimir Putin. 136 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: And if I do, I'm taking a food taste or 137 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: somebody I don't like who's gonna eat it first? And 138 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: then I'll decide whether to put my fork into food. 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty scary. But the President today did 140 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: something that well people on the left side he wasn't 141 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: going to do, and that is that he's gone directly 142 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: after UH Russia as it relates to what they have 143 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: been engaged did and that means sanctions against trying to 144 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: influence our elections and so discord in the country. And 145 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: it's amazing because he's the one that's doing it, and 146 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: yet he's the one that's been accused of colluding. And 147 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: it was Barack Obama that was lecturing him. You remember 148 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: when Obama said this before the election and was lecturing 149 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump to telling him to stop whining. And and 150 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: no serious person would ever believe they could impact our elections. 151 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: There is no serious person out there who would suggest 152 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: somehow that you could even you could even rig America's elections, 153 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: in part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of 154 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: votes involved. There's no evidence that that has happened in 155 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: the past or that there are instances in which that 156 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: will happen this time. And so uh, I'd invited Mr 157 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: Trump to stop whining and go try to make his 158 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: case to get votes. Well, I remember very vividly also 159 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: remember Obama leaning over thinking he was off Mike and 160 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: patting the knee of the Soviet president between the two 161 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: Putent terms and saying to them after the election, I'll 162 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: have a lot more flexibility. And he never told us 163 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: what was that flexibility? What is it he was going 164 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: to do that was so dog on flexible and did 165 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: he in fact do it? Is that why we have 166 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: the Russian interference in our election because he just looked 167 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: the other way. We know that the biggest thing that 168 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: the Obama administration did was when Obama said, uh, these 169 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: guys need to cut it out, and that was a real, 170 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: real threat. I mean, the only thing that would make 171 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: that tougher would be that if he'd sent a letter, 172 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: a strongly worded letter, that would have scared him. I'm 173 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: sure do you or you as concerned about Muller and 174 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: the team that Mueller is put together as I am. 175 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the latest information leaked today is Mueller has 176 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: subpoena the Trump organization demanding documents about Russia. You know, 177 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean that none of this is is connected in 178 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: any way to the campaign, And I'm just trying to 179 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: understand where this guy is going and why this guy 180 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: would hire only people that donated a Hillary Obama the 181 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: d n C. You know, why would he? He make 182 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: is why there's The New York Times calls him Mueller's 183 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: pit bull, A guy like Andrew Weissman who cost tens 184 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: of thousands of Americans their jobs at Anderson Accounting. He 185 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: was overturned by the Supreme Court nine zero. He put 186 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Merrill executives in jail for a year that was overturned 187 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. He's best friends 188 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: with Mueller. But with that track record, why would Andrew 189 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Why would Bob Muller hire Andrew Weissman? Ever, it's hard 190 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: to say. And I think as troubling as it is 191 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: with the team that he's assembled, it's that there seems 192 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: to be a singular focus on anything that Donald Trump 193 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: may have done and a complete and we don't know. 194 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: Maybe he is looking at what Hillary did and the 195 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: fact that all those emails showed up on Anthony Weiner's laptop, 196 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: or that she had a private server, or she that 197 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: she deleted dirty three thousand emails, things for which other people, 198 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: including the young sailor, went to prison. Maybe he's looking 199 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: at that. But if if he is it's been the 200 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: best kept secret in Washington and Sean there are no 201 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: secrets in Washington. Well, I just at some point governor 202 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: with fourteen months and no evidence that's been presented, and 203 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: they're looking at everybody's financial deal going deals going back 204 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: to two thousand and five. In the case of Paul 205 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: mataphor not, I have no idea what his business dealings 206 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: were with the Ukraine, but he he literally worked for 207 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Trump for three months. And I gotta be honest, I can't, 208 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: for the life of me figure out how we had 209 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: the unmasking of General Flynn illegal and then the illegal 210 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: leaking of raw intelligence on General Flynn that seems to 211 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: have set up a perjury trap for him, and he 212 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,359 Speaker 1: he has to plead guilty to lying or maybe misremembered. 213 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. My recollection isn't didn't even tell you 214 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: who's on my show yesterday. And I'm just trying to think, 215 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the this is how this country 216 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: treat you after thirty five years of service. I'm like, Wow. 217 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: The Flinch tragedy to me is one of the great ones, 218 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: because he has been an honorable public servant, put his 219 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: life on the line for this country on numerous occasions, 220 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: had a very honorable career in the military. And it's 221 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: it's a classic example where people say, if a federal 222 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: prosecutor really wants to, they could indict a ham sandwich. 223 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: And what they're saying that that is that there's always 224 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: some technicality upon which a federal uh prosecutor can find 225 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: a way to come after you. With Martha Stewart, for example, 226 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: it was that she didn't have complete memory and recall 227 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: and what she'd said to the FBI, so they got 228 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: her on a similar thing of lying to the FBI. 229 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't inside er trading, which was what they went after. 230 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: It was something totally unrelated. I think that's what I 231 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: ought to scare every American. If our own government decides 232 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: to target us, and they come after us, and they 233 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: have unlimited resources with which to attack us, and the 234 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: net result is they ruin our lives, put us in prison, 235 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: destroying our families, cost us our homes, and our reputations. 236 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: What kind of government do we have that would do 237 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: that to us? You know, it's funny you say that 238 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: I I have friends in the FBI. I love these guys. 239 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know my background. My mother 240 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: was she worked in a prison, she was a prison guard. 241 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: My father worked and family core probation. All right, quick break, 242 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll continue with Governor Mike Cucabe and 243 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: much more. Uh, straight ahead on the Sean Hannity Show. 244 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: Governor Mike ube is with US former presidential candidate, former 245 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: Arkansas governor. I will tell you I just have great 246 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: respect for law enforcement, not the top echelon that I 247 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: think is abused power, especially by abuses. But you know, 248 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: I asked him one day after the Martha Stewart case. 249 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: We have a long discussion. I said, so, let me 250 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: understand this. If you don't, if you don't perfectly remember something, 251 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: and you you really your inclination is to always want 252 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: to help the FBI. You're saying that, no matter what 253 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: the circumstances, that you should never talk to the FBI. 254 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: And he goes, absolutely not. And I'm like, I said, 255 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: that goes against every inclination as an American that loves 256 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: the FBI that I would ever have. And he said, 257 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: absolutely not. What does that tell you, Well, it tells 258 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: us that our government has an extraordinary level of power 259 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: and that when they want to weaponize that power and 260 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: use it for political purposes. Uh, you know, the best 261 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: thing for us to do is to stay out of 262 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: the way, never help load a gun pointed at your 263 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: own head. And that's why I think the advice that 264 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: that FBI agent gave you was a good advice. Uh 265 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: if you you know, it's the classic thing of reading 266 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: the Miranda rights. Everything you say can and will be 267 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: used against you in the quarter of law. That's why 268 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: lawyers always tell us shut up, quit talking. Yeah, so true. 269 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: And as we continue our discussion of the firing of McCabe, 270 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: Sarah Carter David Shown are with us. UM So the 271 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: president goes out this weekend and the President says, yeah, 272 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: this guy was corrupt. He talked about come yeah, Collmey's corrupt. 273 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: I put out a series of questions. I don't know 274 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: if either one of you saw them on Twitter for 275 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: James Comey and an invitation. But James come to join 276 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: us for three hours on this radio program and one 277 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: hour on Hannity on the Fox News channel. I know 278 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: he's going over to the Clinton's bff George Stephanopolis and 279 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: Trump paid Stephen Colbert and the view where they hate 280 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: all things Trump. I'd like to see James Comey answer 281 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: some important questions, Sarah Carter. James Comey needs to answer 282 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: those questions, Sean, and he will have to answer those questions. 283 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: And I think David was right when he pointed out 284 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: the fact that even in in McCabe's own statement, the 285 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: one that he made, uh directly, I mean it was 286 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: within minutes he already look, McCabe already knew this was coming. 287 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: He lied to the FBI. That's that's a sense of 288 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: fire abul offense. He could also be charged, and what 289 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm hearing from my sources, he will be charged, uh, 290 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, uh for for for lion, possibly for other issues. 291 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: Obstruct as one of them. And now he's coming out 292 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: swinging and he kind of wrapped Combie up into his 293 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: big mess because one of them either both are lying 294 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: on one of them's lying because Comy testified that he 295 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: never authorized leaks, so he needs he needs to address 296 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: that directly. And kind of important here is that we 297 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: have to take into consideration that when you Trump's tweets, 298 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if this was the first time you ever 299 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: mentioned Robert Mueller directly and this investigation, I mean, it 300 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: feels like and he says he's on a witch they're 301 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: on a witch hunt. He's they're coming after him. But 302 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: he has a right to defend himself too, and he 303 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: has a right to defend himself. And I think what's 304 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: even more interesting is the fact that you have all 305 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: of these congressional members who came out and said, well, 306 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: it'll be the end of his presidency if he if 307 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: he fires Mueller, if he comes after Mueller. But some 308 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: of those same Republicans who came out and said that, 309 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: they also asked for a second special counsel to investigate 310 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: the investigators. They're basically saying, keep the Mueller investigation going. Uh, 311 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: and now let's get a second special counsel to investigate 312 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: the investigators. But we don't want anything to happen to 313 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Mueller because we we suspect that Mueller's investigation is gonna 314 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna uphold the laws of here and the balance 315 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: of justice. Well, for a lot of people, that isn't 316 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: the case. He's looking for a crime. And and especially 317 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: to the President and others that are that are concerned 318 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: about this, they're afraid that Mueller is in search of 319 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: a crime, in search of a crime, and he's going 320 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: to try to find one. Mueller was given a broad 321 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: sweeping mandate by Rod Rosenstein, who we believe argued for 322 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: and used as a justification for in the subsequent renewal 323 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: applications provisa didn't Rod Rosenstein, uh sign off on the 324 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: second one. We have to go to a break here, 325 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: will continue straight ahead and join us. We continue with 326 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: Sarah Carter, investigative reporter, David Shown, civil rights and criminal 327 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: defense attorney. Uh. So this weekend, Um James sanctimonious comy 328 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: goes out there. He's got this book that's coming out 329 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: in the middle of April, and I think it's the 330 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: dumbest thing I've ever seen. I see a guy that 331 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: has a lot of potential legal and criminal issues standing 332 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: before him. I don't know a single lawyer that would 333 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: advise him to not only do the book, but go 334 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: on a book tour. Although he's doing really easy interviews. 335 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: He's going on with Clinton Sycophan, Georgie Stepanopolis, and then 336 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: he's going on Late Night with Stephen Colbert, and then 337 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: he's going on with the Ladies of the View. And 338 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that Megan McCain will get one 339 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: question and one question only so he writes this weekend 340 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter, as he often does in his high flutants 341 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: Holly of than now sanctimonious way, Mr President, The American 342 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: people will hear my story very soon. They can judge 343 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: for themselves who is an honorable who is honorable, and 344 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: who is not. So I sent out a series of tweets, 345 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: Mr Comey, what did you know about McCabe is leaking 346 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: in his conduct considering he was his boss? And then 347 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: I said, was the unverified, salacious dossier? And I used 348 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: those specific words because Comey used them to Trump in 349 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: January seen and we know that that salacious and unverified 350 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: document was used as the bulk of the face application 351 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: three months earlier in October? Why didn't the FBI verify 352 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: and corroborate the dossier? Did you know that dossier used 353 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Russian sources? And then I asked, Mr Comey, did you 354 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: know that Hillary Rodham Clinton paid for the lies, the 355 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: Russian lies in the dossier? Did you or anyone at 356 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: the FBI pay Christopher Steele? Did you ask Steele about 357 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: his Russian sources that he used in the dossier? Did 358 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: the FBI make any attempt to interview the Russian sources. 359 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: And then I said, did you ask the Fusion GPS 360 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: owners if they corroborated the Russian dossier? And why did 361 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: Hillary's campaign in the d n C funnel Fusion GPS 362 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: as payments and steals pay aiments through this law firm, 363 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Perkins Cooeie. And what did you know about the efforts 364 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: to pass on the unverified, salacious dossier to American media companies? 365 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: In other words, lies propaganda to manipulate an election, and 366 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: working hand in hand with the corrupt media. And then 367 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: I said, Mr Comey, why were you writing hillary Is 368 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: honoration in May of sixteen, long before she was interviewed 369 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: in July sixteen? I said, eighteen USC seven nine. It's 370 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: the illegal to mishandled classified, top secret special access programmed information. 371 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: Why was such information misshandled by Hillary Rodham Clinton? And 372 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: then I wrote did Hillary mishandle such information by putting 373 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: information on a server and a mom and pop shop 374 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: bathroom closet? And how many foreign intelligence agencies do you 375 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: believe hacked Hillary Rodham Clintons server? What countries did Russia? Did? China? 376 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: Did Iran? Did North Korea? Hacking the Hillary server? And 377 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: then I asked Comey as it a crime to delete 378 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: emails that have been subpoenaed. And when Hillary deleted thirty 379 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: three thousands of into emails, is that obstruction of justice? 380 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: And what about Hillary acid washing or hard drive with 381 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: bleach bit? And then I finally say this, Mr Comey, 382 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: I know your scheduled to be on Good Morning America 383 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: with Clinton b F F George Stephanopolis. I know your 384 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: scheduled to be on the Colbert Late Show and the view. 385 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: Would you accept my invitation? Am I missing a lot 386 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: of questions here David show? No, but I think he's 387 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: just ruined your invitation by asking them. He wouldn't dare 388 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: come on there. You look, you've given a great head 389 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: start to what will hopefully be the special counsel. You 390 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: know that he wouldn't dare answer those questions, uh, in 391 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: your forum, in any forum, but certainly not when you're 392 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: gonna be relenting this with any dodging for any answers. UM, 393 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: he should, does a matter of business, go on your show. 394 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: His agent should book it because he'll sell more books. 395 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think he'll dare come on there. I 396 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: hope he will, UM, but I don't think you're missing 397 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: I don't think you're missing any questions you might add 398 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: on there about the circumstance of giving memos to a 399 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: law professor friend that were apparently for Congress instead. But 400 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's, you know, one of many subjects. Um. Look, 401 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: we're seeing Mr Comey. Unfortunately this part of this culture 402 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: that public servants try to capitalize on their ego and 403 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: um on opportunities. So this book tour is gonna bring 404 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: in millions. He may rue the day that he decided 405 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: to have it, as some have suggested already, including you, 406 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: Maybe you're at the forefront um because he's gonna have 407 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: to answer some of these questions, and now he's gonna 408 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: have to answer the McCabe controversial. McCabe has certainly accused him. H. 409 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: McCabe's statement is certainly at odds with him cannot be 410 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: reconciled with what Mr Comey has You, or his lawyer, 411 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: would you allow him to write a book under any circumstances, 412 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: would you represent him? No? Absolutely no, Would I represent 413 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: him No? If he made that bad decision then maybe, 414 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: but no, I certainly would not advise him to and 415 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: certainly not at this stage and things he has no 416 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: idea what's still gonna surface. I want to touch on 417 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: one other subject that he raised earlier, and Sarah made 418 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: a very important point about and it relates to Comy also, 419 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: but really to Mueller mostly. I'm I was surprised, maybe shocked, 420 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: he than to see respectable members of Congress, our representatives, 421 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: representatives of people taking the position that to criticize the 422 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: Mueller investigation or even to suggest that it should be 423 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: stopped is acting guilty, or that one should act like 424 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: the president should act like he's not guilty, the lawyer 425 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: should treat his clients if he's not guilty, and not 426 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: stop criticizing the investigation. That's an un American position to take. 427 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: The challenging of the integrity of investigation is an absolutely 428 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: fundamental avenue of Supreme Court is recognized for any sort 429 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: of prosecution. As this Sarah said far more eloquently than 430 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: I before. Um, it's a very dangerous situation when we 431 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: have allegations that someone is operating on an agenda, and 432 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: you've said this, Mr Hannity, it's when an investigation is 433 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: arguably politically motivated with a foregone conclusion as an agenda, 434 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: that everyone should speak up and protest the investigation guilty 435 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: or not guilty, So that that's one aspect of it. 436 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: But the other part of this is how short is 437 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: our institutional memory. It's just from between two thousand eleven 438 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: and two thousand seventeen. One after another source commented on 439 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: various scandals or mouth seasons that Mr Mueller had been 440 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: involved with. Certainly Mr Comey also in fact, a former 441 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: FBI agent legal counsel the FBI, wrote a piece about 442 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: various scandals that both Mueller and Comey were involved with 443 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: the chief personally witnessed, including lying and cover ups and 444 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But all of a sudden, Mr 445 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: Mueller is above the law. He's a hero. Um it's 446 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: not appropriate. Again, I welcome anyone to read any of 447 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: these sources, even such questionable sources that we find in 448 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: the mainstream media that always are um glad handing Mr 449 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Mueller these days. But you know, the New York Times 450 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: and raised questions about him in the past, the New 451 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: York Post, the Boston Globe for very specific reasons. And 452 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: people should do their homework. I saw we're gonna we're 453 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: gonna do a deep dive into who Robert Mueller is 454 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: this week. So stay tuned on that. Let me go 455 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: back to Sarah for a minute. So everybody got all 456 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: worked up this weekend when Donald Trump mentioned that the 457 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: Mueller probe should never have been started in the first place. 458 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: There was no collusion, was no crime. Now you know, 459 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: some people are saying, well, if you're if you're innocent, 460 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: you would never say you're innocent. And I think it's 461 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: just the opposite. I think, if I'm innocent, I'm gonna 462 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: scream it from the mountaintops. And it's amazing how the 463 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: media is somehow interpreted the president's belief that it never 464 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: should have been started and that a lot of it's 465 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: based on fraudulent activities of fake dossier bought and paid 466 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: for by Hillary and the d n C and lying 467 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: to a FISA court. And uh, and I agree with 468 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: the president. We have evidence of real crimes. And fourteen 469 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: months and later, and we have no evidence of Trump 470 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Russia collusion at all, not even in the case of 471 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: anybody that Muller has indicted. It feels like we're living 472 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: in an altered universe. I mean, where you're seeing all 473 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: of this evidence still out against all of these players 474 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: to the point where I mean they're being fired there 475 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: being let go. Uh and it's and it's not just 476 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: the president firing, it is the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility. 477 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: We have an Inspector General who was appointed by Obama, 478 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Michael Horowitz, who's very well respected on both sides of 479 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: the aisle by both Republicans and Democrats, and even McCabe 480 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: himself welcomed in the past, welcomed Michael Horowitz conducting this investigation, 481 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: even in even into even into McCabe, even into himself, 482 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: he was fine with it. And here, you know, Horowitz 483 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: finds all of this evidence, turns it over to o PR. 484 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: He talks with Christopher Ray, the FBI director, who was 485 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: at that point in time, basically backing, you know, his 486 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: colleague there at the FBI McCabe. And then finally Ray said, 487 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: I I gotta let you go. You can't come in. 488 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: And even when he went in that Monday, the day 489 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: that he was fired, you know, Sean, I know this 490 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: from multiple sources, all of his boxes were packed. He 491 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: was out of there. He wasn't allowed in the office anymore. 492 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, everything was packed up for him. He was gone. 493 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: How what do you think Christopher Ray discovered that day? 494 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: Do you think o p R, which is, by the way, 495 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: has many of his friends work in op But if 496 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: you listen to the phony news media in this country, 497 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: they made it sound all weekend like Donald Trump did 498 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: this all. Donald Trump had every right to defend himself, 499 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: and he obviously when you come out publicly and you're saying, look, 500 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: there is no collusion here. And for fourteen months we've 501 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: been waiting for Brennan or Clapper, all these people that 502 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: keep coming out on Twitter, former Obama official, senior officials, 503 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: people that were McCabe, the FBI, anybody give us evidence, 504 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: if you have it, give it, put it out there 505 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: in the public. And they've never been able to do 506 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: that because there is no evidence of what about these 507 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: articles this weekend FBI agents saying that Comey stood in 508 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: the way of the Clinton email investigation, McCabe making life 509 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: tougher for Comy, you know, as he actually said this 510 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: week and anyone out there and said, oh, by the way, 511 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: I did all of this leaking with the approval of 512 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: the director. So now he asked to answer that question, 513 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: and then I would add to that and go back 514 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: to the comment that was made by James Calstrom, which 515 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: I thought was devastating that high ranking people throughout the 516 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: government had a plot to protect Hillary from being United Now, 517 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: that would be James Comey, that would be Peter Struck, 518 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: that would be Andrew McCabe, that would be Lisa Page 519 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: and probably Lauretta Lynch. And the reason is is they're 520 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna overlook her obvious felonies, a multitude of crimes, give 521 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: a fixed and rigged investigation to keep her in the 522 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: race and keep Donald Trump from being president of the 523 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: United States. And then, oh boy, in the process, we've 524 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: got an insurance policy because we lied to a FISA 525 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: court with Hillary Boughton paid for Russian lines, and then 526 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: we use those lines to get a FISA applicationists by 527 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: on the associate, which leads us into the emails of 528 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: the entire Trump's system. So I cannot believe for a 529 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: second here that what Calstrom is saying is overstated in 530 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: any way. I think Callstrom nailed it, that there are 531 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: deep state actors that thought they knew better than the 532 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: American people. He did nail it. He did nail it, 533 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: and he you know, the more you see the evidence 534 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: on its face, this isn't just speculation that you were 535 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: hearing it from their own words, from the text messages, 536 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: from the emails, from the evidence, and the documents which 537 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: they changed. Comy himself and other people at the FBI 538 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: made significant changes in the reasons and the decision to 539 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: exonerate Hillary Clinton. So I think Calstrom, who's who's a 540 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: brilliant man, nailed it right on the head and he 541 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: knows exactly what he's talking about. And this is the 542 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: reason why a second special counsel is so necessary. Are 543 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: we going to get that? Are we getting a second 544 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: special counsel? Because I don't see. You cannot have all 545 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: of these top people doing what they're doing, all best friends, 546 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: all suspect in terms of what their political motivations are 547 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: now investigating themselves because it's never gonna come out right. No, 548 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: it will never come out right. And this is the 549 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: reason why we need a second special counsel. And I 550 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: do believe a second special counsel will be appointed. Remember 551 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: this is coming also from Chairman gra Astley, who's the 552 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: head of the Senate Judiciary Committee and has quite a 553 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: bramble and and tell us in corn In and now 554 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty much everybody is beginning to see that there's no 555 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: other way out of this to investigate the investigators and 556 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: as we can send you David Shown and Sarah Carter 557 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: wrapping up this hour, our deep tive Andrew McCabe is fired. 558 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: Now we see that the House Intel Committee. Soon we'll 559 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: be talking to the love bird struck in page uh, 560 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: David Shown, I've got to imagine there's going to be 561 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: more firings. And to quote PJ Media and Roger Simon, 562 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: the reckoning of the FBI and the deep state has begun. 563 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: I suppose that's right. And I don't mean this to 564 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: just glad hand, but you have to take a good 565 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: bit of the credit for it. Quite frankly, Um, I 566 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: was thinking a minute ago, if you were to do 567 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: a retrospective one day when this all plays out, on 568 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: how much of this you and then through Sarah's investigated 569 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: reporting really brought to light that would never have been 570 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: brought to light otherwise. Frankly, because I think you care 571 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: a great deal about the Constitution and about the institutions, 572 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: I think will be amazed to see how many of 573 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: these issues you really brought to the four. But you know, 574 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: can I tell you one thing on that point? So 575 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: some dope over at CNN this weekend, I somebody quoted 576 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: it to me and sent me an article you know, 577 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: literally says, well, Hannity won. Now he's the winner here 578 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: because because Andrew McCabe was Nobody wins. Nobody wins when 579 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: you have high ranking government officials in a particular agency 580 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: that I love and law enforcement that I love involved 581 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: in this type of behavior. But with that said, it 582 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: will destroy the country if it's not revealed, if they 583 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: continue these antics and tactics and and scheming and plotting 584 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: and planning. Right, And I'm quite frankly I've never heard 585 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: you gloat about the winning, because you don't. That's why 586 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: I felt it necessary to at least give a bit 587 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: of credit here. Um. But in in any event, I 588 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: think getting back to what you said, you know, Sarah Ray, 589 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: is a very important point. And this is one of 590 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: the many reasons why a special counsel is the only 591 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: viable option, as much as everyone dread that, because we 592 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: see these things never ending and going down every rabbit trail. 593 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: But that is something again, it's Mr Radar Sarah just mentioned. 594 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: It is that. Um. The the O p R action 595 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: is all the more remarkable because he does Mr McCabe 596 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: does have friends there that's what's changing, maybe through your show, 597 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: maybe through other UM hot points. Now I don't know 598 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: what's causing it. Something's changing. You know. My my father 599 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: was an FBI agent, so I have a great deal 600 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: of admiration for the FBI. Their heroes to me. But 601 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: they've never really been held accountable from above before. And 602 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: part of that the cost of this old boy network. 603 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: They never thought Trump would win and they never thought 604 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: this would come out. That's the problem one, Shawn, are 605 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: toll free numbers. Thank you, Sarah, Thank you David.