1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. We're on the radio every day 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: from one until four, and then after four o'clock it's 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: called John and Ken on Demand. It's the podcast same 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: as the radio show. So there's no excuse for missing anything. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: And you could be listening to us all Thanksgiving weekend continuously. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: Well there's a tree each the hell out of your family, 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: believe me, way more entertaining. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: The piles of wooden palettes that were stored along with 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: combustible liquids under the ten Freeway had been troubling. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Troubling is a good word cold. 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 3: Trans and state fire officials for at least three years 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: before it all went up in flames. 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: About a week or nine days ago, whatever the closure 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: of the freeway. Who's this, writer, Rachel Rananga Urannga your wranga? Well, 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: what is this that was troubling them? When you're troubled? 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: I guess it was written in the documents. I'm troubled, 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: said the fire inspector. 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: What does that mean? There were true here's one guy's words. 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Well, no, this was the federal aviation, the Federal highway administration, 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: but apparently inspectors had been there many many times over 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: the past three years. 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: Caltrans officials sent a letter to the guy that was 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: leasing this property numerous violations regarding the storage of hazardous materials. 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: Inspector Daryl matt said, a foreman, Matthew Herrera, promised that 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: the safety hazards would be. 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Cleaned up by the next month. They never were. 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: Then there was a surprise inspection by Caltrans and the 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: office of. 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: The Office of the State. 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: Fire Marshal on August sixteenth of twenty twenty two. That's 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: going pretty high up the chain there. 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: This lease has numerous violations of lease terms, including dogs 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: on lease, multiple high pile issues, solvents, oils, fuels. 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: And other things expressly prohibited by the lease. 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: This is Mayat who wrote this in his report, Inspector 38 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: Daryl Mayat, this is a filthy, unmaintained lease, evic tennant 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: and start over. 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: He wrote in the notes. 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: All right, So Inspector Daryl Mayat wrote that, And then 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: they had asked a foreman of the property who promised 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: the safety hazards would be cleaned up by the next month. 44 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: So then what happens. They issued a three day eviction 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: notice a year later and filed the lost Mood lawsuits, 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: but never actually removed all the dangerous materials, I mean, solvents, oils, fuels, 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: the palettes piled up to the sky. So well, how 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: come no one from that particular office of Caltran's sent 49 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: to Grower. The fire marshal sent a crew and said, okay, 50 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: everybody out and load these things on the back of 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: a truck and drive it all away, confiscate it, burn 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: it somewhere. 53 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't see. 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: That's the part that's not explained in any of this. 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: We know what happened. The paperwork's been out for days now, Okay, 56 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: there are all these inspections, there are allways complaints, there's 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: all this stuff in writing. And then nobody got up 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 2: in the morning, got into a truck, brought a couple 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: of crew members with them, stopped the truck at the 60 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: overpass and said, hey, we're confiscating all this. This is 61 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: a fire hazard. Get out of the web. I mean 62 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: that would have taken how long get it to get 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: you know, get a get a half a dozen trucks. 64 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: What are they doing all day? What do they do? 65 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: I think, especially people in government work it's always litigiousness 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: that stops them. 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna get sued over this. We have to do 68 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: this properly. 69 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: We can't just go down there and take all that 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: stuff off that property. 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: We need to go to court and file paperwork to 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: do this right. 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: Up, talking about months, They wasn't even be hurt in 74 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: court until next February. 75 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: This case, when a fire marshal declares an immediate emergency, 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: I think they have wide latitude, I would hope, so yeah, 77 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: I would think, so. 78 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, where's newsome where governments on the go and we 79 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: step right in there and get something done. 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: Right. 81 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: He's all crowing about getting the freeway reopened, Well, what 82 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: about getting right on this when this has been going 83 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: on for three years? 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: What happens when there's an earthquake, right, what happens is 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: city workers show up and they read tag homes, They 86 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: put police tape around the homes and you can't get 87 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: in anymore. Why because it's a hazard. The house might 88 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: fall on your head. And that's done immediately, and nobody 89 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: goes to court and stops it because they have broad 90 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: powers to declare an emergency. 91 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: And that's what this was. 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: This was obviously it was Look, look what happened. All 93 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: you needed was the homeless guy to start the fire, 94 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: and then that weirdo showed up. They hadn't found yet. 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh the guy in the surveillance footage. Oh excuse me, 96 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: Maybe he's not a homeless guy. Maybe he Yeah, we. 97 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Don't know that. You're jumping to conclusion. 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: You know, he might be a tech executive. I think 99 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: he's an AI guy. In fact, he's just an arsonist. 100 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: He's just a pyromaniac who was out there looking for 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: the right place to burn. No, we're probably going to 102 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: find out he's a homeless person with mental health issues. 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: Of course when they catch up with them. 104 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: This is this property was one of Oh by the way, 105 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: Caltrans did issue a three day eviction notice a year 106 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: later August twenty fourth of this year. Then filed suit 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: against this company and they, of course they will backround too. 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: But of course this was not going to make It 109 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: has to go through the courts. 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: But that's Gavin Newsom changing the subject. That's a legal case. 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: Of course, they take months. 112 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about a real fire emergency, a fire 113 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: emergency that's separate from the legal case. 114 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: They want to get back rent from him. 115 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Okay, good. 116 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: The court is the proper route to take to get 117 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: the back rent. That's not an earth shaking matter. What's 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: the earth shaking matter is all the flammable materials and 119 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: the homeless people living underneath, who frequently have open flames, 120 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: who frequently set fires for a purpose or otherwise. Now, now, 121 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: I don't think they could ever explain away that people 122 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: at Coltrans and people in the fire Marshall's office, the 123 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: state fire they did just simply refuse to do their 124 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: work properly. 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Just didn't it? What and what else. 126 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: Were they doing sitting in chairs? Had Oh I'm sure 127 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: diversity in equity meetings? 128 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Right? 129 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: What do the most important thing besides putting out fires 130 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: is to prevent fires from happening. And you sent guys 131 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: down there and you said, wow, this place is gonna blow, 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: and then you do nothing. 133 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: I mean, here it is again. 134 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: They filed the eviction notice on August twenty fourth, but 135 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: the case was expected to be heard early next year. 136 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: Can't you go to a judge or a court and say, oh, no, no, no, no, 137 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: this isn't just evicting a tenant from like an apartment, 138 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: This is evicting dangerous but fire materials from underneath the freeway. 139 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: We need you to hear this case. 140 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: Now, and I'm sure they would have won if he 141 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: didn't pay his rent and they had all sorts of 142 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: dangerous materials they weren't allowed to store there. Sorry for 143 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: these businesses, but they're just as They probably didn't know 144 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: exactly what the rules were, and this weird company that 145 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: was leasing the property from Caltrans probably just look for 146 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: these migrant workers who needed a place to do their businesses, 147 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: and they didn't ask a lot of questions. 148 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: Right, so they allowed the migrant workers to keep flammable 149 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: materials under a freeway as. 150 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Long as you pay the rent. Just put whatever you 151 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: want in there, all right. 152 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: Whoever decides that's a good idea ought to be removed 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: from Caltrans immediately because those humans are dangerous people who think, well, 154 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: let's let the migrants earn their living and they could 155 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: stack up flammable materials under the freeway. Anybody with that 156 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: bad judgment, that is her red dis judgment, they should 157 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: be taken out now. Anybody in the fire marshal's office. 158 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: Same thing. If a fire marshal's office can't figure out 159 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: that they ought to be removing all the flammable materials. 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: You might as well. 161 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: Six times they visited the property in just over three years, 162 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: Caltrans did, and they just did an inspection on October fifth, 163 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: It was barely a month and a half before this 164 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: fire went. And again all they do is they did 165 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: like you said, they just take notes. Oh it's dangerous here. 166 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: They ought to a victor right away, and somebody file 167 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: a lawsuit. Nobody, You're right, nobody felt the emergency of this. 168 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: But here's what we get. This is another companion piece 169 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: in the El Segundo Propaganda Times, Karen Luna wrote about 170 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: Governor Gavin Newsom got his victory lap sporting a brown jacket, 171 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: jeans and a baseball gap. As he stood on the 172 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: ten Freeway. The governor announced that all the lanes of 173 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: the roadway would reopen ahead of his ahead of his prediction, 174 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: which of course was a prediction. But what he was 175 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: doing was holding a circus act on the freeway with 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: Kabila Harris and Karen Bass to distract everybody from the 177 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: boring details of the case, which is his fire marshal 178 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: and his Countran's department completely botched this up, criminally, neglectful, utterly, incompetent, 179 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: and he's standing on the freeway babbling away like in 180 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: that clip we played yesterday. And they say he was 181 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: motivated because his poll ratings now are so low, his 182 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: approval ratings down to forty four percent, and he wants 183 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: to run for president. So this whole oh, this is 184 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: right off that dopey China trip, right and he saw 185 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: the articles that said that people think you're not doing 186 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: anything about what's going on home. 187 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 3: Oh, the perfect crisis to address. Let me hop right 188 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: on this and act like we can do this in days, 189 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: and he did do it in days. 190 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: How much time did he spend in Israel? How much 191 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: time did he spend in China? How much time did 192 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: he spend entertaining the is a partner there, the Chinese 193 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: communist leader. How much time did he spend cleaning up 194 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: the dead fentil bodies in San Francisco, those poor guys 195 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: who bought fentonyl that originated in China. How much time 196 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: did he spend on that? How much time did he 197 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: spend on caltrans because they the National Transportation was at 198 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: the Transportation Safety Board. Yeah, in twenty seventeen sent out 199 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: a national warning be vigilant look for combustible materials under bridges, 200 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: because a similar fire in twenty seventeen shut down a 201 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: stretch of Interstate eighty five in Atlanta. In turn, Caltrans 202 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 2: sent out the same memo here in California. They got 203 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: it from the federal government. They sent it out here. Hey, everybody, 204 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: look under the bridges, clear them all out. Newsom didn't 205 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: do it, His Coltrans director didn't do it. His state 206 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: fire marshal didn't do it. But he's in Israel, in 207 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: China and cleaning the bodies up in San Francisco. 208 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 3: All right, we'll be right back down and Ken k 209 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: I AM six forty we're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 210 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 211 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: I AM six forty. 212 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Well, you know, we got homeless under the freeway. 213 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: That was a story with the ten Freeway near downtown 214 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: LA and the fire that closed. 215 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: The freeway for the better part of a week. And 216 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: again we don't deal with the real issue there. And 217 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: it could be that a homeless person started the fire. 218 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: We don't know yet. They have the surveillance footage picture 219 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: of a suspect, but they have not caught up with 220 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: him yet. As far as we know. 221 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: I heard he's one of the Lakers. Oh, it's not 222 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: that far from downtown. Yeah, he looked crypto. Yeah, I 223 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: mean every It could be anybody, right, So it could 224 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: be a very successful businessman, right, right, who just had 225 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: a bad day. I could never be a homeless person, right. 226 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: He was a Scragay. They're telling us not to jump 227 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: to conclusion. So we're trying to be nice and. 228 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't do what they tell me. Well you didn't 229 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: you already. Scraggly vermin is what he looked like. 230 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: Scraggly vermin with a knee brace and like a burn 231 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: on his other leg. So you got homeless under the 232 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: freeways and every now and then, and you've been hearing 233 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: this a lot, and it's not always followed up with 234 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: a clear answer. There are homeless or pedestrians on the freeways. 235 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: So this story started simmering yesterday when the Alsigundo Times 236 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: had a headline about a man who was shot to 237 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: death by the California Highway Patrol on the one O 238 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: five freeway. Today we learned the story and the headline 239 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: the Elsigundo Times is aspiring actor homeless in La fatally 240 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: shot by CHP officer on one O five Freeway. Boy, 241 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: if the fix isn't in with that headline and I object, 242 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: he never had an acting job. 243 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: He was thirty three. Aspiring is the keyword. 244 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: Well, why would that be the first phrase you used 245 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: to describe the story because they want you to know 246 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: he was a human being with dreams thirty three? He 247 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: never got a job, and so his lead descriptor is 248 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: aspiring actor. 249 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: Well, to make us go all. 250 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: They killed a poor guy trying to make it in 251 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: Hollywood who was walking. Why would those nasty police officers 252 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: kill the poor guy just trying to make it in Hollywood. 253 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: Here's what I got from this story after I read. 254 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: It, and I think it encapsules the whole situation we're 255 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: looking at. I feel bad for the police because we 256 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: don't take the stink and homeless, drug addicted, mentally ill 257 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: off the streets into conservatorship. They're out there wandering around 258 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: and they're gonna cause trouble, whether it's setting fires or 259 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: this guy was probably walking on the freeway, which is 260 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: a real, real public safety hazard. 261 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: I feel bad for the police because they're left to 262 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: deal with this. Now they have to encounter these people 263 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: and try to figure out a way out of this, 264 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: hopefully without killing them. We learned that somehow, well somehow, 265 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: the struggling actor, his name is Jesse Domingez, got a 266 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: hold of one of the officer's tasers and used it 267 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: against oh gee, and then all bets were off. 268 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: They shot him. 269 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: You notice the headline isn't man who grabbed officer's taser. 270 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: Shot shy to death right instead of. 271 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: Self defense aspiring actor homeless in La. Oh, that is 272 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: so romantic, right to be a struggling actor in La 273 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: another artist. 274 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: If you just read that. 275 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: Headline, you think, oh, well, maybe he was driving along 276 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: and he got a flat tirre and he pulled over 277 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: and the CHP came up and just blasted him, killed him. 278 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: And they have a picture of him smiling with his sister. Wow, 279 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: that's emotionally manipulative as well. Now, if you scroll way 280 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: down in the story, the family describes him as he 281 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: struggled with bipolar disorder and substance use disorder. Can you 282 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: imagine what he was like at home? He's taken drugs 283 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: and he's bipolar. Why did they show a pick sure 284 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: of him smiling with his arm around his sister? Why 285 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: don't you show him show us a photo of him 286 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: in a bipolar rage or the drug induced rage where 287 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: he was threatening his family. 288 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: Why don't we see that photo? Uh? 289 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 290 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: The family tried to help him, but he was homeless. 291 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: They offered him places to live, and apparently he died 292 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: not far from my I guess a sober living place 293 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: he was in, but I don't know whether he was 294 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: actually staying there or just wandering around. 295 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: He wasn't homeless, Watts. He wasn't homeless. They offered him 296 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: places to live. 297 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: The family, they're trying to give him a roof, and 298 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: he wouldn't live in the homes that they offered, So 299 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: this is a lie. He wasn't homeless. He was just 300 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: either so drugged up or so crazy that he chose 301 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: to wander wander on a freeway. 302 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: He chose to pull a taser. 303 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: The father said, the failure to make it as an 304 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: actor depressed him. We just felt that La robbed him. 305 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: The Hollywood scene sucked him in, wanting him to be 306 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: that persona what is that? What is the Hollywood scene? 307 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: It must be the drugs? And did he go partying 308 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: in night life? Well, so don't do it? 309 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: What about all the successful actors who are not drug addicts, 310 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: who are not alcoholics. 311 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: We didn't want to crush his dreams, said the father. 312 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: I dreamed. 313 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: The stepmother said, Now she's turning on the police because 314 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: of this. 315 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: I used to really stand behind the blue. Yeah. 316 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: Now this makes me see things in a new way. 317 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Yeah, well he's sure there'll be a lawsuit. 318 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: He wanted to be an actor or singer, but he 319 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: bounced around from job to job, mostly waiting tables. Maybe 320 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: he was no good as an actor and no good 321 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: as a singer. Maybe he didn't have the drive to Actually, 322 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I've known people like this. They're constantly talking 323 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: about what they want to do, but they don't execute. 324 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't get it done right, Yeah right. You know, 325 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: you have to to get it. 326 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: To get a particular job, you have to be qualified 327 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: for it. Often you have to have some experience in 328 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: it already, and then you have to go through whatever 329 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: mechanism there is to apply for the job, interview for 330 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: the job, find the availability of the job. I meet 331 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: people who can give you the job. You know, everybody knows, 332 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: we've all done this. You don't just get ordained a job. 333 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean a kit stand. And this is their lead story, 334 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: their lead story. 335 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: Why it's to make the police look bad, to make 336 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: the police look like a bunch of murderous thugs. 337 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Oh, look at. 338 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: That, they just sluttered an innocent, aspiring actor. 339 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: Look at him smiling his arm around his sister. 340 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: All the stuff about the drug addiction, about the bipolar 341 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: all the stuff about him rejecting home after home from 342 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: his family, grabbing the taser, yet not able. 343 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: To hold a job for more than five minutes. The 344 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: only thing that. 345 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: I do question is they apparently shut the freeway down. 346 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: It was just this officer and this guy I don't 347 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: know says here he didn't really have any backup the officer, 348 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: because I guess you could make the case that once 349 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: he grabbed the taser, if there were several cops there, 350 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 3: they could have jumped him in and the cuffed them 351 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: and taken him into custody. But the two struggled on 352 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: the ground and then apparently the CHP officer just took 353 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: out his gun and killed him. 354 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: Maybe this cops screwed up, maybe he overreacted, But this 355 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: goes back to what I said. I feel bad for 356 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: the police because now it's up to them to do 357 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: something about the mentally ill wandering the streets, because yeah, 358 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: this guy could have wandered into traffic caused a ten 359 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: car accident besides endangering himself, and the police have to 360 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: deal with this because we won't. People like Newsome and 361 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: the rest won't find a way to get these people 362 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: off the streets and into the help they need. Instead, 363 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: it's all this, it's just a housing problem. No guy, 364 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: this guy had housing. He didn't want it. He had 365 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: a sober living home at least didn't want it. Wanted 366 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: to be standing on the on the one oh five 367 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: freeway copy. 368 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what that was about. 369 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got bipolar who knows what the voices were 370 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: telling him, And then the police would have been blamed 371 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: if he did cause that a massive accident. I mean, 372 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: I'm so fed up of looking at news stories and 373 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: trying to figure out, okay, what percentage of truth. 374 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Is in this ten percent twenty. 375 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: It's just so frustrating and depressing, and you realize it 376 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: all comes down to all the government workers not doing 377 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: their jobs properly, just refusing to do what they should 378 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: do for a living. 379 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: All right, we will return a few minutes Johnny KENKFI 380 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: AM six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 381 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 382 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 383 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: We're on the radio from one to till four, and 384 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: then after four o'clock we've become a podcast. It's magic 385 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: John and Ken on demand on the iHeart app and 386 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: you could listen to whatever you missed. 387 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: Anybody, but George Gasconne will be talking to yet another 388 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: candidate who would like to be the Los Angeles County 389 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: District Attorney coming up after the news at three o'clock. 390 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: She reached out to us. 391 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: She was part of that debate held by the Santa 392 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: Monica Democratic Club the other night, in which Gascone was 393 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: a participant. 394 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: So we'll talk about her take. 395 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: On the job and of course what's wrong with gascon 396 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: which is everything. She will be with us after the 397 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: news at three o'clock. Well, you know what we haven't 398 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: talked about, probably in a couple of weeks, is the 399 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: migrant problem. I'm looking at a map because this story 400 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: popped up today from wonderful NPR National Public Radio. It's 401 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: a very soft, very sympathetic story, but the headline is interesting. 402 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: We have talked for years about perhaps relocating some of 403 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: the homeless people quote out in the desert. Well, that's 404 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: what they're doing with the migrants. 405 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 4: Now. 406 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 3: There is a place called Hakumba. I'm looking at the 407 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: map here. It is just over the border inside the 408 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: United States of America. If you're in Tijuana, Mexico, when 409 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: you look dou east and you're just over the border there, 410 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 3: you'll see this a little town described as ya Cumba 411 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: Hot Springs. And according to this story in NPR, they 412 00:20:55,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: have sent the migrants to unofficial camps in the California desert. 413 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: All right, that Joe Biden has adopted a planned for years. 414 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: And this is how NPRS got a tip on the story. 415 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: So they sent a reporter and it starts like this. 416 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: On a chili autumn morning in the California desert, on 417 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: the side of a highway, two young men are asking 418 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: for help. They tell NPR they're from Turkey. 419 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh, there's just in time for Thanksgiving. 420 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: They cross the US Mexico border a few minutes ago 421 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: with about eighteen other people, and they're exhausted and they 422 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 3: ask for something unusual, please call border patrol. And almost 423 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: as soon as they say it the border patrol rolls 424 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: up and takes them, and it says this is what 425 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: they want. They were told that if they cross over 426 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: and turn themselves into border patrol, they're taking their first 427 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: step towards getting a visa or a chance at asylum 428 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: in the United States. So because more and more people 429 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 3: are being told this and doing this, they have to 430 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: have a place to put them. 431 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: It's not true you have a better chance of getting 432 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: asylum if you go through an official checkpoint at the border, 433 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: that's correct. If you just end up in the desert 434 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: and once you cross the border illegally, you have limited 435 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: your chance. Yes, it doesn't really matter because you won't 436 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: have to go to your asylum hearing for many years, 437 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: and if you show if you don't show up or 438 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: you're denied, there's not going to be any action taken anyway. 439 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: So eventually these people will find out that none of 440 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: this really matters. Whether you went through a checkpoint or not, 441 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: whether you had paperwork done or not, whether you go 442 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: to the hearing or not, whether you're given asylum or not, 443 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It's all just this phony theatrics. 444 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, theater Noah. So apparently this has been going on 445 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: for months. 446 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: Coyotes are dropping off three hundred migrants that these this 447 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: miles long gap in the border wall in so call 448 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 3: of the desert place called again Kumba, population about six hundred. 449 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: They end up in camps like this and open field 450 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 3: near the highway. They given little tints and they're given 451 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: food and water. 452 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: Man. 453 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: They're told to just stay there until they are eligible 454 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 3: for some type of processing. So the Turkish guys said 455 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: that they left because of government persecution and poverty in Turkey. 456 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: I'll get at you. 457 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: And that's the key words for asylum is government persecution. 458 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: Right, Turkey doesn't prosecute, persecute people. Now, everyone's given them 459 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: right things to say. Well, that's just it. That's what 460 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: the coyotes tell you to say in order to qualify 461 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: for an asylum. 462 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Hearing, well, except. 463 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: The people in the camp are Kurdish. I heard that 464 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: they come down hard on the Kurds in that part 465 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: of the world, don't they. Some of the governments and 466 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: the troops and stuff. The Kurds are out of favor. 467 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: But how the hell do the Kurds get to Mexico. 468 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: It's the great question. How do they get from Turkey 469 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: to Mexico. 470 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: Somebody is fining it's got to be some cheap flights 471 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: that get them somewhere to eventually get them to a 472 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: place that they can take a transport. I think it's 473 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 2: more of these anarchist billionaires must be funding organizations to 474 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 2: get these people flown to Mexico. 475 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 3: And then NPR finds a woman from Hontauris who says 476 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: she left because I was getting threats for being gay. 477 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: So they're hitting all the asylum points. 478 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I just. 479 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: Okay, just pay You know what it's like, spin the 480 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: wheel of oppression. 481 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: What am I gonna claim? 482 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: What appressed minority group should I claim to be a 483 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: member of in order to get fast tracked? 484 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: Right? 485 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: I mean, we recognize that the United States is a 486 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: better place to live than many countries on the planet, 487 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: but you're right, that is not generally grounds. 488 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: For asylum, not for long. If we keep up doing this. 489 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: Then they finally found demand by the name of Jerry's schuster, 490 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 3: who says he owns the land that they've been camping. Oh, well, 491 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: they're here for three days, destroying my property. 492 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: They'll be gone. I have to live with the destruction. 493 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: Right here, he's an immigrant himself from Yugoslavia. He says 494 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: he bought this land forty years ago and then he 495 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: found out that they were using it as a migrant camp. 496 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: And he says, it's a disgusting porta potty situation. 497 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: And the government is using it as a migrant crane. 498 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: You have, you have the eminent domain, they just can 499 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: take it. Basically. 500 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the government just decided to uh set up a 501 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: migrant camp on this private, privately owned land. 502 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: He says, it's his private property, this little patch of desert. 503 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have fire a few warning shots there 504 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: that'll clear everybody out. 505 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: It's not clear where they do take them away after 506 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 3: a few days. It's just a continual march of migrants, 507 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: say the camp. 508 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: And because they're at of storage facilities for migrants. Right, 509 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: I'll listen to what some of them said that they've endured, uh, scabies, parasites, 510 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: necrotic scorpion bites, people have seizures, diabetic emergencies, broken bones, burns. 511 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: Lots of burns. 512 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, that's uh, that's compassionate, isn't isn't it? Yeah, 513 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: you just this is when coyotes charged these people thousands 514 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: of dollars and these poor people end up with all 515 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: kinds of terrible diseases and then they're left to rot 516 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: in the desert. 517 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh, look at this. 518 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: Then at nightfall, another group of migrants around. This time 519 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: they're mostly Chinese, a few Ecuadorians in Guatemalans. Look at that. 520 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: That's another long way to go to talk about government repression. 521 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: I guess who's financing this. Somebody's financing this to create 522 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: a disruption in our society, and they've achieved it. In 523 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: New York and Chicago, they have a lot of disruption. God, 524 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: did you see the New York mayor. He's cutting the 525 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: police department, He's cutting the fire department, he's cutting the 526 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: education budget because he needs eight billion dollars over the 527 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: next few years to take care of the migrants. 528 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 529 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: And if the stupid dumb clucks in New York watch 530 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: the police department further disemboweled so that migrants can be financed, 531 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: this is what they vote for. This you did, then 532 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: you deserve to have the city rot and die. 533 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Well. 534 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: Well, that is the nuttiest policy imaginable. And everybody in 535 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: New York is what going along with it. Highest taxes 536 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: in the nation to live in New York City because 537 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: they have a city income tax on top of the state, 538 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: on top of the federal government. City income tax. Right now, 539 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: you're going to get even fewer services because they need 540 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: to support the migrants. And forget about sending your kids 541 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: to a public school there. It's impossible. 542 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: All right, We'll be right back, John and Ken caf 543 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 3: I Am six forty. We're live everywhere. It's the iHeartRadio app. 544 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 545 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 546 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to a candidate for La County 547 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: District Attorney, another Gascone challenger, a judge, Deborah Archialita, will 548 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: be on with us. 549 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: And I like it's part of her website. Her initials 550 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: are DA. Isn't that great? That's excellent from Brandt. 551 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: I believe that is her website. It's Judge DA for 552 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: DA dot com. 553 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: Maybe she was born to do it then she was 554 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: for Archer. Even the judges are getting fed up with this. 555 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were reading an article where she was interviewed, 556 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: and she's got all the right ideas. Prop forty seven 557 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: is a disaster. Gascone's a disaster and something you and 558 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: I have talked about which we ought to get into 559 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: her is that he is very much in favor of 560 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 3: gun control, Gascone, but doesn't believe in gun enhancements in 561 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: charges against criminals. 562 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this a lot in 563 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: the last year or so. 564 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: This crowd that's so much about to take it away 565 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: everybody's guns and there are dangerous society when criminals actually 566 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: use them. They don't believe in the enhancements for them. 567 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: Maybe he wants us all dead. 568 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: Maybe hey, Siria, how what else would happen if you 569 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: let the criminals have the guns but we can't have 570 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: the guns. Well, who wins then the criminals. Gascone's policy 571 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: is to let the criminals keep their guns and us 572 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: not to have them. 573 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: She was looking at a funny story. Of course, people 574 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: are flying for the holidays, coming the TSA wants to 575 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: make sure you understand that in your carry ons you 576 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: cannot have gravy. You can't have wine, and you can't 577 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: have cranberry sauce. You see, because these are still considered like, oh, 578 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 3: they're all liquids. Yeah, some people, I guess, you know, 579 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: because it's the holidays, they want to be gravy to 580 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: Grandma's house. 581 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: I saw a woman who was stopped in line ahead 582 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: of me, which of course clogged up the line because 583 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: she was bringing some kind of jars of some kind 584 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: of red sauce to her daughter. 585 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: And she was very excited. She bought these jars special. 586 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: This is the TSA checkpoints yes, yes, this is no yes, 587 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: you know. As the bags passed through, her bag was flagged. 588 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: It was put on a separate conveyor. But I was 589 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: stuck behind her, and you know she they said, well, 590 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: you can't have this, you can only have three ounces. 591 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: And she says, well, what do I do? And they said, well, 592 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: you can take this back to your car if you want. 593 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: Or find a way to put in check baggage. 594 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: Right, you can write yes, you could do that, and 595 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: she carry on into a check bag, I guess, and 596 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: you know she and she went into a long story 597 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: about how she bought the sauce for a daughter and 598 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: it's a surprise and she's looking forward to it. 599 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: It's like, lady, would you stop it? Well, yeah, remember 600 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: remember years ago, and we did, we did the story. 601 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: I think more than one occasion you had people that 602 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: were like diabetic and had their apple sauce with them, 603 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: and they wouldn't because they had to eat the apple 604 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: sauce on the plane to keep them, you know, their 605 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: blood sugar. But they wouldn't let them through. 606 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: With their apple sauce. 607 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, some concoxi rice because diabetics with apple sauce, 608 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: they're the most likely terrorists. 609 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: Right. 610 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: Apple sauce can be deadly. It could explode if it's 611 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: mixed with the right compodents. 612 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: Combination of stupid government and ignorant people. 613 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: All right, well, we do have a warning from a 614 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: different outfit. 615 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 3: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention want you to know, 616 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: put down that peach, how about that nectarine? 617 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: How about that plum? John, you always have these in 618 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: your hands. It's really a distraction that you're eating all 619 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: these fruits. 620 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: And I hate all these foods. Oh, I know, have 621 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: you ever eaten a peach? 622 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: I have eaten. 623 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: Everything once, and so I could for one reason. So 624 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: when I say I don't like something, somebody goes, oh, 625 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: you probably never tried it. It's like, no, I did, 626 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: and I spit it out. Thanks, that's thanks for asking. 627 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a listeria outbreak. 628 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: It's linked to peaches. Nectarines and plums. Ten hospitalizations and 629 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: one death, and it's a California farm called h MC Farms. 630 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: They voluntarily recalled the fruit soul between May first and 631 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: November fifteenth of last year. Would you still have that 632 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: around and May first and November fifteen of this year? 633 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: Well, last year's fruit is? I know what good is 634 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: that recall going to do? 635 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: It is probably pretty rotten by now that unless people freeze. 636 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: It, maybe it could be good. 637 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: Some people buy fruit and freeze it, and because of information, 638 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: they want to buy everything now and freeze it because 639 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: it's going to. 640 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: Cost much a freezer full of frozen plumps bumps. The 641 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: recall says it doesn't include peaches, plumps, and nectarines currently 642 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: being sold in stores, so because that would be I 643 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: guess fresher, Well, I think what's happened has happened then. 644 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: I mean this stuff doesn't last very long, so uh. 645 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: Listerious symptoms include muscle achs, fevered tiredness. It could be 646 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: two weeks after you consume the contaminated food. 647 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: It would help if they found this out the week 648 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: that people were buying these fruits right and eating the fruits. 649 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: But you know, to tell us a year and a 650 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: half later. That doesn't really do any good. 651 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: Now, how does the listeria get on the fruit? This 652 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: isn't from the farm picking again, is it? Or is 653 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: it some other uh, some other source in the chain there. 654 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to look that up. 655 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: Usually it's fecal matter, right, every time there's a food. 656 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's usually E coli, isn't it. Yeah, there's 657 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: other things though. One of the people was a pregnant 658 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: woman who went into pre term labor. 659 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 660 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: A spokesperson said, their hearts go out to everyone. 661 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 2: The steria bacteria can be found in soil, water, and 662 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: animal feces. 663 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Well, it could be animal. 664 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: Poop, contaminated manure, used this fertilizer. Oh, there you go, 665 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: because it's the bacteria. And they think a lot more 666 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: people may have been infected because some people just recover 667 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: without medical care. They didn't even know that they had. 668 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: The lasteria infection found in moist environments. They found it 669 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: on our moistline. For a while, people were getting hysteria, 670 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: just calling in. 671 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: Is this one of these things? 672 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: That way, if you wash and wash the fruit, you 673 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: might have a chance of getting rid of the you know, 674 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: you just don't don't eat fruits. 675 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: All right. 676 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll have another candidate who would 677 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: like to knock out George gascon from his job as 678 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: Los Angeles County DA judge. Deborah Archiletta is coming on 679 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: the show, and she's been a judge since twenty sixteen. 680 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: She was at that debate the other night in Santa 681 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 3: Monica before the Democratic Club at which Gasconne participated. 682 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: So we'll get her take on his performance. 683 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 3: Johnny Ken CAF I AM six forty Live Everywhere iHeartRadio app. 684 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: Sandy Wells in for Deeborah, Mark Lodney, CAFI twenty four 685 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: hour Newsroom. 686 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 687 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: You can always hear us live on CAFI AM six 688 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 689 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 3: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.