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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, August twenty first, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number twenty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Welcome and well appreciate you guys take us some time

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Speaker 1: with us today to talk a little Cowboys football. How's

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Speaker 1: everybody great? Well? Good, awesome, Thanks awesome. Sorry for those

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Speaker 1: And now we'll go ahead and get to it. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk first about a couple signings the Cowboy had yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys get a safety. Anybody excited they signed Dominic Sanders? Cool? Cool?

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Speaker 1: How are you right? Don't don't do Dominic like that

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Speaker 1: we don't University of Georgia, Georgia. A lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of interceptions at Georgia Georgia. Yeah, like sixteen in

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Speaker 1: four years at three every year at least. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I don't actually know where he went after Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia signed him, cut him quickly. I think he was

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Speaker 1: This is a camp body if there's ever been one,

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Speaker 1: some you know, just practice basically, just just please go

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Speaker 1: out there and practice. So Tyree Robinson doesn't get every snap. Yep.

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Speaker 1: They basically cut him right away, and then he hasn't

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Speaker 1: been with anyone I didn't think so. So, so are

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Speaker 1: they doing more because they still have an issue that

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Speaker 1: did more. Are they are doing more right now? Um?

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Speaker 1: They are. If the paperwork's not official. They are expected

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Speaker 1: to or are going to sign Jeron Johnson, who is

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Speaker 1: a classic veteran safety. He played with Chris Rochard in

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Speaker 1: his resume, it sounds like he was their Cavon Frasier.

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Speaker 1: Just to kind of give you an idea of what

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Speaker 1: I hear all that, But can this guy play week one?

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Speaker 1: If Xavier, if Xavier Woods isn't out let the thing

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Speaker 1: about it, yes, can he play? Can he play well

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Speaker 1: enough that the Cowboys don't get torched? He might be

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Speaker 1: But as far as I know, Georgia Loca is still

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Speaker 1: second second segment of the Break Life from s WBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage studios at a Star I want to take a

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Speaker 1: moment just to say congratulations to a couple of guys

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Speaker 1: here on this set. Dave Hellman and Kent Garrison and

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Speaker 1: Taylor Stern and Kevin Timmons and Mike Marshall all won

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Speaker 1: Emmy Awards last night. And I could not be prouder

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Speaker 1: of you guys. That was a really, really great work,

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Speaker 1: the Wreck documentary. Yeah, but I'm you guys are the

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Speaker 1: guys I want to celebrate right now. You guys did

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Speaker 1: the Dack documentary. For those out there listening, You're not

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Speaker 1: going to congratulate yourself. No, I'm not. For those out

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Speaker 1: there that did not see the Dack documentary, you gotta

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Speaker 1: go check it out. Check out our Connected TV. That's

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Speaker 1: the best way to view it on your television through

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Speaker 1: Apple TV or Roku or Amazon Fire. But it was really,

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Speaker 1: really a great documentary. They went back, you guys, traveled

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Speaker 1: back to um to Dak's old college, Mississippi State, spent

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Speaker 1: some time with his old coach, with other people at

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Speaker 1: the program, with Dak himself there, and just kind of

446
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Speaker 1: talked about this love affair between Dak and that city

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Speaker 1: and that university. And I thought it came out really well,

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Speaker 1: and obviously the voters with the Emmys also thought it

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Speaker 1: came out really well, and you guys got rewarded last

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Speaker 1: night for really great work. So great work to you guys, Congratulations, Thanks,

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Speaker 1: super super duper rewarding experience. All praise on the high

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Speaker 1: to Kent the Magic Man. Awesome back there, Man, You're incredible,

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Speaker 1: love you. Yeah, it was. It was a really cool experience.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. And to the guys that did the

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Speaker 1: year in special, that was the other win we got

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Speaker 1: last night. Kevin Timmins and Mike Marshall put together a

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Speaker 1: really great year end show. For those that didn't see it,

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Speaker 1: we had Michael Irvin and Moose and Nate and they

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Speaker 1: were all doing kind of some roundtable type discussions and

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Speaker 1: then you can imagine those guys and doing a discussion

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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys after what happened last year. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty good stuff, and again the voters thought it was

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Speaker 1: worthy of an Emmy and so they got that Emmy award.

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Speaker 1: So really really great work, Very very proud. We had

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Speaker 1: a lot of nomination. We had seven nominations last night,

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Speaker 1: so even for the guys that that didn't get the wins,

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Speaker 1: it just it speaks a lot. It speaks volumes about

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Speaker 1: this team and the amount of creativity and hard work

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Speaker 1: that goes and what we're doing. I'm very proud of

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Speaker 1: you guys. You guys do awesome job every single day.

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Speaker 1: So thinks, all right, man, let's move on. Let's talk defense.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk defense. I am. We just did that for

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Speaker 1: the whole first second. We did. We did. But now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna switch to a couple other positions on the defense,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with another signing. Cowboys pick up a

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, Karan Read. Dave you said in the break

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Speaker 1: that this was a player that you guys studied during

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Speaker 1: the draft and that the Cowboys had some interest or yeah,

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Speaker 1: I liked a little bit. Well, it's funny. I literally

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Speaker 1: had the thought yesterday. I didn't go to Jason Garrets

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Speaker 1: press conference, I didn't go to practice because we had

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Speaker 1: the Emmys, and I even thought to myself, I was like, big,

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Speaker 1: big deal, it's one day, Like what are you gonna miss?

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I know it's a minor signing. But

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Speaker 1: I got back to work and was like, holy crap.

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Speaker 1: They signed Karan Read. I remember him. He was in

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Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen draft. Actually, he was in the same

488
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Speaker 1: draft class as coney Eally. He's a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 1: He's not like this blue chip guy, but I remember

490
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Speaker 1: like he was intriguing. He's a big space eating one technique,

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Speaker 1: the type of guy that we always talk about. They

492
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Speaker 1: never seemed like they have, so I'm it's a name

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Speaker 1: that stands out. I remember they had some interest him

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Speaker 1: in him during that draft cycle, which is probably why

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Speaker 1: he's here if I had to guess, very similar to

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Speaker 1: why they signed coney Eally. So I doubt he makes

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Speaker 1: the team, just because most guys who signed on this

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Speaker 1: Leaden camp don't. But it's something to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on in these last few practices for sure. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think that he's got a pretty good chance to

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Speaker 1: actually to make the team. I feel like Tyrone Crawford

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Speaker 1: now is just a tackle. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing a whole lot of end. I

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Speaker 1: think that the emergence of Dorn's Armstrong and Taco playing

505
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Speaker 1: pretty well, and Randy Gregory and DeMarcus Lawrence on top

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Speaker 1: of that, I think that the Crawford just makes more

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Speaker 1: sense when you're talking about getting your best rushers and

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Speaker 1: your best lineman there. I'm not saying he won't play

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Speaker 1: any end, but for the most part, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: he's going to play a lot of tackle and by

511
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Speaker 1: doing that it might squeeze jahad Ward out the door

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Speaker 1: and keeping your one techniques And you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's gonna be a battle between Brian Price

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Speaker 1: and Daytona Jones who's banged up. That that's another thing.

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Speaker 1: He's banged up. And then you got Antoine Woods, who's

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Speaker 1: a good point. I'm not saying he's fallen off. He

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Speaker 1: just haven't heard a whole lot from him. But then again,

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Speaker 1: you're not watching one on ones all the time like

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Speaker 1: you were. I mean, that's where Antoine Woods was making

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Speaker 1: his his you know, his presence felt so m On

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Speaker 1: a related note, and Jerry, you know we're back. I

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Speaker 1: guess we're back on the football schedule because Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: spoke on the radio this morning, which is a football

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Speaker 1: season thing. Um. He said that they hope MALIEK Collins

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Speaker 1: will be ready for Carolina. Forgot and I totally forgot

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Speaker 1: about Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's a good forget because

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Speaker 1: he certainly will be in the mix. Absolutely not starting.

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Speaker 1: I'll assume he started. Who's your three techniques? Then him

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Speaker 1: and well, I hope craw Crawford's making the team, so

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Speaker 1: he's great, him and Crawford, and then you just figure

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Speaker 1: out your one. Give give me a guy who can

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Speaker 1: play one so that Malik doesn't have to let me

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Speaker 1: throw another thing into the mix. I don't say David Irving.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, week five, how does that change

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Speaker 1: or does it don't do that? I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: Irving won't play again, But I've already been there on

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Speaker 1: that right, there's always there's always a good will play

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Speaker 1: again because he needs a crude season. He's gonna play

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Speaker 1: like Antoine Woods is going to have a half sack

540
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Speaker 1: against the Panthers, and somebody's gonna call us and be like,

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Speaker 1: what are they gonna do to get Irving on the teams?

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Speaker 1: And it always takes care of it, and all that

543
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Speaker 1: question was not about getting him on the team. You

544
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Speaker 1: can find that, Like, You're right, there's gonna be some

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Speaker 1: way to figure that out. I'm talking about from a

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Speaker 1: depth standpoint and from snap standpoint. If those two guys

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Speaker 1: are playing three, is David Irving a one technique? I mean,

548
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Speaker 1: where do you where do you use him? What happens

549
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Speaker 1: with those other guys? Do you move a league back

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Speaker 1: to a one technique or David Irving's a football player

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Speaker 1: on it, like, put put him on the line wherever

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Speaker 1: you put I'll play him at end. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's better at tackle, but just put

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Speaker 1: him out there. If they remember the other day we

555
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Speaker 1: were really struggling about more are they gonna do between

556
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Speaker 1: Brian Price and Antoine Woods and John Ward and Dayton

557
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Jones and the Cowboys said we hear all of that,

558
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna go get Karen Read. So they don't

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Speaker 1: feel strongly about some of those guys. I'm not saying

560
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Speaker 1: all of them, but there's a couple of guys in

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Speaker 1: there that they just don't feel good about. Good point.

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Speaker 1: They honest may believe, hey, we got a just a

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Speaker 1: bunch of guys, got a bunch of guys. We don't

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Speaker 1: have anybody who think it's gonna really stand out, and

565
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Speaker 1: they're just kind of searching it this if I had,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry ahead, I was just saying he

567
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Speaker 1: played for the Lions to year four years ago. That's

568
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Speaker 1: who drafted him. Yeah, and I was, you know, about

569
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Speaker 1: to I was writing the story and I was about

570
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: to be like he played with Marinelli for you know,

571
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Speaker 1: under Marinellian and realized this was his sixth year. That

572
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: seemed like that's gone by fast Rod. Marinelli's six years,

573
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Speaker 1: like a long time. He's been here the whole time.

574
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Speaker 1: I have like I've never known a Dallas defense that

575
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Speaker 1: didn't have me. I didn't think about it like that.

576
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, um time, so no one. Oh but Ward,

577
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: Ward and Jones were your starters like all through the

578
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Speaker 1: spring and up intil the first week of training camp,

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Speaker 1: and if I had to put money on it, I

580
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: would still pick them to make the fifty three. But like,

581
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Speaker 1: I certainly don't feel good about it. I don't think

582
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Speaker 1: you could call that a lock by any strings. Ward

583
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: seems like it's just been Yah knows that. Ivan, You're

584
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Speaker 1: not wrong. All right, let's talk. Let's talk about this

585
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Speaker 1: defense overall. Um, during the first and Dabut and I

586
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: were talking about this the other day, it's hard to

587
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Speaker 1: to sometimes still know what the offense. We kind of said, okay,

588
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: the first team was out there for this number of possessions.

589
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: It's been a little bit different on the defense because

590
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: they've kind of had this mixing of first and second

591
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Speaker 1: team players throughout the preseason, even early in games. But

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Speaker 1: if you want to kind of just get an idea,

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Speaker 1: pretty much, you look at these two games. Defense is

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Speaker 1: given up a touchdown in basically four quarters of football,

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Speaker 1: which to me sounds like a you know, I'll take

596
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: that all day? Right? How much you guys buying into

597
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Speaker 1: the idea that maybe this defense is going to turn

598
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Speaker 1: the corner this year and may have because if you

599
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Speaker 1: think about it the traditional what you've always heard about defenses,

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Speaker 1: If you can get a really good player, a player

601
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Speaker 1: that makes a difference on each of the three levels,

602
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Speaker 1: then you're onto something, right And you start looking at

603
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Speaker 1: right now what they got at defense. On the defensive line, particularly,

604
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Speaker 1: you got Tank Lawrence. He's the best player on that unit.

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Speaker 1: You look at the linebackers. I personally believe Jalen's gonna

606
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Speaker 1: be your best linebacker this year. But you've got Sean

607
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Speaker 1: Lee there at middle linebacker. I'm sorry, we can week

608
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Speaker 1: side linebacker. Are you saying that because you don't think

609
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Speaker 1: Sean's gonna play all sixteen games? Don't? I don't know

610
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Speaker 1: if I buy into the fact you'll play all sixteen games,

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Speaker 1: and I think Jalen will. And then you look at

612
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Speaker 1: the cornerbacks right now, in the cornerbacks again, for what

613
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: we see at this moment, are playing really really well.

614
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Speaker 1: Are you buying into the idea that this defense may

615
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Speaker 1: turn the corner this year and actually be the better

616
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Speaker 1: unit and not just kind of hey keep him off

617
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: feel as long as possible. The same argument and discussion

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Speaker 1: that you guys had on the break on the beat,

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Speaker 1: on the beat, no sorry, when we were coming off

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Speaker 1: the break, and then it into the beat that was

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Speaker 1: very clearly about DeMarcus Florence. Yes, that was specific, and

622
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Speaker 1: the and the point that I was making was is

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can have it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this this defense will be great if you don't have

625
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Speaker 1: a great player. You gotta have a great player or two.

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Speaker 1: And you don't call DeMarcus Arms a great player. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think he had a great season. You don't call

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00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Arms a great man now, and neither of the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys or they would have signed him to a long

630
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Speaker 1: term of seventeen million dollars. That says he's a great

631
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Speaker 1: player to them for right, now they're right. No, they

632
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: are renting a but don't don't want it. You don't

633
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Speaker 1: rint You don't rent an average player for seventeen million dollars.

634
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Speaker 1: You really got the average? See that that's the that's

635
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Speaker 1: what keeps getting changed. I didn't say average. I never

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Speaker 1: said average, which I said that he's good, he's really

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Speaker 1: You don't read a good player for seventeen million dollars,

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Speaker 1: you don't. I don't think a good place. I don't

639
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Speaker 1: think a great player has only done it once out

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Speaker 1: of what three years. You don't franchise guys that are

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Speaker 1: just rock solid, just you locks. You don't. Well, Aaron

642
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: Donald got franchise. Why is he on the third one?

643
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Speaker 1: I mean clearly, the Rams clearly, for whatever reason, aren't sold.

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00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: He's the best defensive tag one football. Aren't they paying

645
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Speaker 1: him that money? They're not paying I think again, you

646
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Speaker 1: look at the NFL. Teams have invested interests in franchising

647
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Speaker 1: because they can keep pushing it out. They're willing to

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Speaker 1: pay that one year deal because in football, as we

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Speaker 1: all know, injuries come and you never know when that

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Speaker 1: injury is gonna come. And so if you can just

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Speaker 1: keep paying just one year deals, it's worth it pay

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Speaker 1: even more. Okay, they are getting kind of sidetracked on

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Speaker 1: on on what we're trying to say here. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the defense. Okay. I think it comes down

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Speaker 1: to five second round picks. Okay, you have five of them.

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Speaker 1: If three of them can be really really good, too great,

657
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Speaker 1: then you can have a good defense. And you've got

658
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Speaker 1: Sean Lee De Marcus, Lawrence Cheeto, Randy Gregory, and Jalen Smith.

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Speaker 1: If you get those guys, and three of those five

660
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: were top fifteen players and they fell for different reasons

661
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: on their board, fell for different reasons. If you can

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Speaker 1: get wildcard plays, especially out of Gregory and Jalen Smith,

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Speaker 1: then this defense can be great. It really can be

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Speaker 1: if these two guys and they're the wildcards. But you

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Speaker 1: need those other second round picks to be good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are a ton of if It's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: There's a ton of ifs when you talk about this.

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Speaker 1: But but they had to build this team thinking Jalen

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Speaker 1: may not come back, and they had to build this

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Speaker 1: team thinking Randy Gregory will not play again. And now

671
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Speaker 1: this surprise, they're here. So they can come into this

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Speaker 1: situation and if they do. If and if Gregory plays

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Speaker 1: anywhere close to his college potential, and same for Jalen Smith,

674
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Speaker 1: then yes, this defense can be really good, especially if

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Speaker 1: Shaun Lee can stay healthy. Might be the biggest if

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Speaker 1: of all. That's and I'm trying to think of a

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Speaker 1: way to say it because I've been so stupidly impressed

678
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Speaker 1: by this defense all preseason. But it can be fools

679
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: gold to a degree. It just that's just the way

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00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: this works. That then sixteen Detroit Lions went four o

681
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Speaker 1: in the preseason, Like that's that stuff was also good

682
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Speaker 1: start because they have known you want to lose preseason games,

683
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: good teams lose preseason you want to win the first half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and well, and that's they look incredible. Honestly, I was

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Speaker 1: following up on this Jeron Johnson News and I had

686
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Speaker 1: a conversation with somebody over there that was just like

687
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Speaker 1: we're just kind of bs and about, you know, the

688
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: preseason and how things have looked, and they're just like,

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Speaker 1: this defense looks crazy good, don't you think? And I

690
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: was like, honestly, yeah, and I'm surprised that I'm saying

691
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: that out loud, but it has. But again, it's there's

692
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Speaker 1: a lot of ifs. If Sean Lee can stay healthy,

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00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: if Randy Gregory can contribute like he has so far,

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Speaker 1: if Jalen Smith. It looks this way in the regular

695
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: season Byron Jones too. We raved about him last preseason

696
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: and it really didn't translate that well. Um. But if

697
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Speaker 1: it all comes together, I think this could be one

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Speaker 1: of the most dominant defenses in the league, as you're

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Speaker 1: gonna say in the last few years by the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: But do I think all of those things will come together? No, something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, somebody's gonna get hurt, somebody's gonna disappoint,

702
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Speaker 1: and this will be a good defense. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna hit all of those benchmarks. I think this

704
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: could be the best defense of Rod Marinelli's tenure here,

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Speaker 1: which the bar is not that high, but I do

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Speaker 1: think that could be true. What is good about this

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Speaker 1: is Gregory in the sense of, if you were to

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Speaker 1: get him on any other team and draft drafted him high,

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Speaker 1: he'd have to play, you know, a certain amount of

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Speaker 1: snaps to justify his position. But the fact that he

711
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Speaker 1: was picked number sixty and then set out for two

712
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: years now for an NFL suspension. Now if he comes

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Speaker 1: back and you know, you had to get other guys

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Speaker 1: in here, and it looks like Taco is pretty good

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Speaker 1: and maybe Armstrong can help. And if all Gregory has

716
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Speaker 1: to do is come in here on third and long

717
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Speaker 1: and rush the passer, then that is what he's best at.

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Speaker 1: If you have to sit there and play seventy snaps

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Speaker 1: and he gets hit by a right tackle all game long,

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Speaker 1: be different. But they're just asking him to come in

721
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: here fresh and rush the rush the passer. That could

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Speaker 1: be really good for him. What are your what are

723
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: your badass defenses in the league right now? I remember,

724
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Speaker 1: like you know, from from oh three to OZ nine,

725
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: the Bears were always the first fantasy defense drafted, and

726
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: then it was the Seahawks. I think they're kind of

727
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: taking a dip now, but the Rams are going to

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Speaker 1: be badass. The Bears, you don't know, Yeah, like the

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Speaker 1: Marinelli Bears, they all, I mean, they were the fantasy

730
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Speaker 1: gods mainly because they had Hester and Hester would they

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00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: They scored points like Alway's business, a lot of they

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it they did, had a lot

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Speaker 1: of turnovers, you're right, But anyway, the Rams, the Vikings, Um,

734
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Speaker 1: the Texans, the Broncos, ask who's the best? Right now,

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00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying I think the Vikings, the upper echelon the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are not there. They're not in that elite group,

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Speaker 1: but it's totally plausible that they're in that nextier like

738
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: some somewhere between six and twelve in terms of fantasy.

739
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: About fantasy, though, I'm about using fantasy to illustrate, and

740
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Speaker 1: the big difference there between I think fantasy and the

741
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys is the fact that they don't they

742
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of turnovers. Yeah, that's very and

743
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: they don't score touchdowns off of them as well. Though

744
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: the preseason with the speed that the crazy the speed,

745
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: the speed on this defense is unreal. Jalen Thomas, Joe

746
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: Thomas Cheeto, Um, I'm talking about the pick before you

747
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: get in trouble on Twitter again and the interception by

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Speaker 1: chet Yeah, what do you guys have to say? I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: it was a great, great interception, probably the best I've

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Speaker 1: seen on the Cowboys for a lot. It was the

751
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: best play that the Dallas defensive back has made in

752
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: my time covering the team, which is five full seasons

753
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: plus this preseason. Yeah, second best for me because it

754
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: happened in the in the preseason. I think what Jeff

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00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Heath did against the Raiders was pretty good. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: I'm just play. You're right. I shouldn't say best play.

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00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: I should like best interception, yes, takeaway. Yeah, you know,

758
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna want to fight me on this.

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00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: But it's those types of plays of why and the

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00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: body type that why people have thought, you know what,

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00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: he's got safety skills because it's those ball hawking type plays. Now,

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00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: not to say that a corner can't have them, because

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 1: they haven't had the corners that can make those plays,

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00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: but it's those types of reactionary plays go up and hype,

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00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: point the ball and make a great play like that.

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Speaker 1: That is why somebody has said, man, you take that

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00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: with his body type, and this guy looks like a safety,

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00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm with you to keep him at

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00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: corner right now. But I can see why he's got

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00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: those traits for it. I see the logic one hundred percent.

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00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: I'd just rather have two good cornerbacks than a good corner.

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Speaker 1: You guys are right. If Jordan Lewis was making this

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Speaker 1: interesting and like, if he was really pushing them, then

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00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: it would make more sense, right, But he's not. He hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Brown's a flag machine right now. Yeah, So I mean,

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00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: right now, there's nobody that's the third cornerback that I

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Speaker 1: feel like needs to be the number two for you

778
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: to make that kind of move, keep those two cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: in place. I agree. What about Duke, He's been nukes,

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00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: been all right, he's been sign alright. He might make

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Speaker 1: the team. I think, honestly, I think Duke should name

782
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: might be your kick returner, especially with Thompson. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Duke. I'm I'm I got Duke on the

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Speaker 1: the injury to Xavier Woods and you think about, well,

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00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: how long is it gonna be out? Two to four weeks?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's the two I mean, look at guys like

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Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson, speed guys like that. I mean, it's always

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Speaker 1: later than that when it comes to hamstring injuries. So, okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to bring these two conversations together. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: If all that works out, is safety a big enough

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Speaker 1: give me in So I and Kent and Taylor. We

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Speaker 1: the you know, you want an Emmy, but I wasn't

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Speaker 1: combat this feeling? I know, I'll put on my Tommy John.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I did. I changed into a fresh

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Speaker 1: pair of Tommy John underwear so comfortable. So yes, Nick,

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Speaker 1: oh wait, I'm waiting for you to finish just so,

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Speaker 1: Like I immediately, like my mood increased by like three

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Speaker 1: was like, rewind back a few hours and the Emmy

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Speaker 1: for the Best Uh Documentary goes to and then Dave realizes,

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Speaker 1: I'm not wearing Tommy John's because I'm really I'm so

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Speaker 1: nervous right now that I don't want to mess up

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Speaker 1: this pair that I have. So I'm not wearing Tommy

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Speaker 1: John too the thing. But if we win and I

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Speaker 1: get excited, then tomorrow I will Sure I did you

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Speaker 1: know that? I don't know that. I'm just guessing. He

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Speaker 1: didn't so nervous. He didn't want to mess up a

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Speaker 1: good pair. I didn't think. I did not think to

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Speaker 1: put on my Tommy John before the show last night.

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Speaker 1: Oh so I was uncomfortable. I was uncomfortable all the way.

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Speaker 1: Does Yeah, No, it wasn't good, but so uh go

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Speaker 1: to Tommy John dot com Forward slash Cowboys and you

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Speaker 1: too can feel great when you put your underwear on.

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Speaker 1: Rumor has it Rumor has it that Dave may Or

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Speaker 1: may not have been seen in a bar last night

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Speaker 1: with his trophy. I literally my best friend in the

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Speaker 1: whole world, Meg Murray, came out with me to celebrate,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, am I a douche if I

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Speaker 1: bring this to into the bar and she was like, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but you want an Emmy who cares go for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's what I did. That's the best thing. That

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Speaker 1: was awesome story I've ever heard. That's awesome. Same thing

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Speaker 1: I've been fun or to drink for her. It's great,

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Speaker 1: an awesome time for her. Yeah, let it take a

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Speaker 1: little sip for supper in. Yeah, that's good if it was.

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Speaker 1: You know, like y'all are the same place like Drake.

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Speaker 1: When Drake won a Grammy, he did shots at it

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Speaker 1: because it's a you know, it's like a cup and wish.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately the Emmy is not shaped that way, or I

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Speaker 1: would have done the same. I'm sure you would have.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to it. We got one

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Speaker 1: question we want to finalize here before the end of

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Speaker 1: the show. I asked the question we've been talking in

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Speaker 1: the first segment about the safety position and what was

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Speaker 1: going on there. In the second segment, we talked about

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Speaker 1: this defense. You guys laid out a lot of different

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Speaker 1: ifs and question marks and all the kinds of things

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Speaker 1: that could derail this defense. But let's assume for a

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Speaker 1: second that all that works out. Let's assume for a

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Speaker 1: second that Jalen really is what he's been in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Let assume Byron is what he is. Let's assume that

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Speaker 1: that average player into Marcus Lawrence ends up being a

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Speaker 1: great player again this year. Let's assume all that works

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Speaker 1: out right is safety. A big enough position does hold

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Speaker 1: enough potential problems that if they can't fix the safety position,

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Speaker 1: it'll derail this defense from being a great defense to

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Speaker 1: being just average or below. See. Yes, I really don't

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Speaker 1: think so, honestly, And I'm hey you and I we

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Speaker 1: go way back with this safety thing. But if everything

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Speaker 1: you just said happens, I don't think it'll matter. I

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Speaker 1: think that is a hole you can hide if everybody

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Speaker 1: else is playing, Like if Jalen Smith is playing like

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Speaker 1: a pro bowler, and Sean Lee, who was a first

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Speaker 1: team All Pro when he's healthy, is available, and DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: is doing his thing, and Greg like, if all that

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Speaker 1: stuff is happening, I don't care. I mean, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to have Earl Thomas, don't get me wrong, but I

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Speaker 1: think you can plug in a serviceable player and be fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do think the safety position will it could hurt him.

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not buying that all those things are

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Speaker 1: going to happen, because nothing from that's all that happened

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Speaker 1: other than DeMarcus had a good a really good season.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing you can count on. But you

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Speaker 1: can't really count on the fact that those two guys

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Speaker 1: do it two years in a row. I mean, DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: ware did it, and they haven't had a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys like that. So I think if you don't have

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Speaker 1: a guy back there that knows what he's doing and

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Speaker 1: knows this team and this scheme, yeah, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I said before, all it takes is one you know,

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Speaker 1: all I thought the guy was going here, I was

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Speaker 1: going down, and I thought he had help and next thing,

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Speaker 1: and we've seen how much just one player can affect

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Speaker 1: the game if they're not playing good or if they're

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Speaker 1: hurt or whatever. And that position specifically is one where

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Speaker 1: you're basically on your own there unless your other guy

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Speaker 1: comes in and helps you. But again, like just Nick

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Speaker 1: pointed out, if you don't know where you're going or whatever,

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Speaker 1: just one simple second mistake can really cost you a

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Speaker 1: whole game. And it doesn't matter how much the offense

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Speaker 1: is scoring. And that's another thing when you were talking

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Speaker 1: about the defense. To me, last year, our defense wasn't horrible.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the greatest, but I thought they had some

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Speaker 1: potential and they were doing some things that sadly or unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the offense wasn't able to take advantage of. So I

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Speaker 1: think that if the offense is also able to move

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Speaker 1: along and help the defense, that's gonna make a big

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Speaker 1: difference as far as how great this defense can be.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We're going

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Speaker 1: to be back tomorrow. Check the website for the time tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a little bit of a different

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Speaker 1: schedule to Borrow and Thursday, but it makes you check

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Speaker 1: the website. But let you know what time we're going

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Speaker 1: to be on. Jailing for Nicky and David Helmet, amber

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