WEBVTT - Karoline Leavitt Explains: "Trump Had A Feeling," And That's Why We're At War

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the folks, it is Wednesday, March fourth, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just listened to the first White House press briefing since

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<v Speaker 1>the war with Iran started, and a very direct question

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<v Speaker 1>was asked, what was the imminent threat from Iran? And

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<v Speaker 1>with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the question, Robes. It was the answer that

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<v Speaker 1>has everybody already buzzing. And the answer is.

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<v Speaker 2>The President just felt it, he had a feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not joking, folks, and we're gonna let you hear

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<v Speaker 1>it yourself and make your own judgments. But Robes, that

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<v Speaker 1>is coming out now. And she said it not just

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<v Speaker 1>as a slip. She said it several times.

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<v Speaker 2>She actually doubled down and slightly qualified it. But her

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<v Speaker 2>first address, like her first way of phrasing it, was

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<v Speaker 2>that the President had a good feeling that the Iranian

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<v Speaker 2>regime was going to strike.

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<v Speaker 1>US assets now on its own. How does that sound?

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds bad, It sounds terrible. You don't want anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when it comes to making a decision about war,

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<v Speaker 2>to make a decision based on a feeling. Now, she

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<v Speaker 2>did qualify it later and said it was a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>based on fact, and she kept saying that over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again. It is one of those moments where you're

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<v Speaker 2>if you've ever been to therapy, you always hear your

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<v Speaker 2>therapists tell you feelings are not facts, and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting she didn't say anything about facts. Initially, she just

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<v Speaker 2>said he had a good feeling, and then she started

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<v Speaker 2>saying feeling based on facts.

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<v Speaker 1>It would want to try to be very fair here, Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem with this, folks, is that after the

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<v Speaker 1>war started, we heard from the President, then the President,

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<v Speaker 1>then Hegseeth, then Secretary of Rubio in that came out

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<v Speaker 1>and made very big statements press conferences. The answers we

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<v Speaker 1>got in those three from those three big deal guys

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<v Speaker 1>in this administration didn't necessarily go together. Robes, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>Rubio correct.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's been described as shifting explanations as to why

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<v Speaker 2>we went to war with Iran when we chose to

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<v Speaker 2>go to war with them. So it doesn't seem as

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<v Speaker 2>though the American people, and frankly members of the media

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<v Speaker 2>who were especially in that press briefing room, are comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with the explanation. It hasn't been consistent, it has shifted,

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<v Speaker 2>and none of it makes a tremendous amount of intellectual sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so if we even stopped sharp short of the

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual part robes, we just take it on what they

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<v Speaker 1>have said. It has not been consistent and hot, I

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<v Speaker 1>jump on, I say, I jump on, but I'm focused

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<v Speaker 1>on Rubio. That was the clearest one because we've been

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from Hegseth and the President over the weekend, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we hear from him with this, Oh yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>did it because Israel was going to attack, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he said.

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<v Speaker 2>It was jaw dropping when we heard it yesterday. We

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<v Speaker 2>jumped on and did an entire episode on it yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>because it was such a departure from what we had

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<v Speaker 2>heard from President Trump and Pete Hecseth. But what we

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<v Speaker 2>had heard from Trump and Heseth didn't really It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to use the word satisfying, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>satisfying to talk about all of the egregious behavior going

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<v Speaker 2>back forty seven years ago, talking about hostages, talking about

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<v Speaker 2>things I remember from my childhood as a reason to

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<v Speaker 2>justify going to war now and just that now we

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<v Speaker 2>have a president who has the courage, who has the

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<v Speaker 2>actual strength to follow through on his threats versus other

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<v Speaker 2>presidents who were weak or even enabled Iran to become

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<v Speaker 2>what they've become. But that doesn't that doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's enough to justify the timing.

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<v Speaker 1>If he would just say, yeah, I am the president,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else had the balls to do this, I do

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm doing it, we would go woof okay, But Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not just what they did. They came out and

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<v Speaker 1>said this reason, this reason, this reason, and this reason.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those initial reasons Robes had to do with us,

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<v Speaker 1>avenging stuff that happened nearly fifty years ago. He just

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<v Speaker 1>laid out, this is everything they've ever done, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we had to attack. It then started evolving Robes

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<v Speaker 1>and it got to Rubio saying we had to do

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<v Speaker 1>it because Israel was going to do it, and if

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<v Speaker 1>Israel did it, then Iran was going to hit back

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<v Speaker 1>and they were going to hit it us. Fine, But

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<v Speaker 1>then the president came back and said no, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to attack, and didn't say it was

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<v Speaker 1>because of Israel, and then rodes We get this today

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<v Speaker 1>from Carolyn Levitt in a press room that was as

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<v Speaker 1>pack as you're going to get it. Getting asked questions

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<v Speaker 1>from who they would theme adversarial, would they not?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, And she started off I before she started

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<v Speaker 2>talking about President Trump's good feeling, she made a point

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<v Speaker 2>because now, yes, she is in the room, unlike Pete Hegsath,

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<v Speaker 2>she is in the room with everyone, with members of

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<v Speaker 2>the media from all networks, from the middle to the

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<v Speaker 2>left to the right. So now she has to feel

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<v Speaker 2>questions from the mainstream media. And she said, there has

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot of misreporting and intellectual dishonesty from the

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<v Speaker 2>American media on why President Trump decided to launch this operation.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was even an acknowledgment that there was confusion.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say in the nicest way, but she was

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<v Speaker 2>actually accusing the media of misrepresenting what the administration was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point being the administration was saying different things

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<v Speaker 2>from different people and none of it really landed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not being critical, that's just we are hearing what

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<v Speaker 1>we were hearing. It's okay, the message hasn't been consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna let you hear. Now what Carolyn Levitt said,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember who the reporter, what outlet? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what outlet he was from, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who asked a two part question, but one part

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<v Speaker 1>of that question, Robes was we've been hearing different things

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<v Speaker 1>from different members of the administration about some eminent threat,

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<v Speaker 1>but we haven't gotten clarity exactly what was that imminent

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<v Speaker 1>threat that caused the President the United States to have

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<v Speaker 1>to act? Now? That's a fair question, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe it came from a reporter from the Independent.

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<v Speaker 2>At least that's what the Independent is saying that our

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<v Speaker 2>reporter pressed Carolyn Levitt on her explanation of these varying

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<v Speaker 2>explanations about why we went to war. When we went

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<v Speaker 2>to war.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, we there have been some reporters in that room

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<v Speaker 1>that I've taken issue with before and can get a

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<v Speaker 1>little sarcae as in a little nasty and get emotional

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<v Speaker 1>about it. He was not that. He asked a straight

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<v Speaker 1>up question. So that was the question, can you give

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<v Speaker 1>us further clarity about what the imminent threat was that

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<v Speaker 1>caused the United States and the President on States to

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<v Speaker 1>say we have to act now or else? And this

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<v Speaker 1>was her answer. It's about two and a half three

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<v Speaker 1>minutes long, but it is worth every second of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen to Carolyn.

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<v Speaker 3>Leven completely reject the premise of your question, you have

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<v Speaker 3>had the President of the United States, the Secretary of War,

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<v Speaker 3>the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the Vice President of

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<v Speaker 3>the United States, the Secretary of State, and now I

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<v Speaker 3>am out here today to explain to you exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>led the President to make the decision to launch Operation

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<v Speaker 3>Epic Fury. And President Trump does not make these decisions

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<v Speaker 3>in a vacuum. This decision to launch this operation was

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<v Speaker 3>based on a cumulative effect of various direct threats that

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<v Speaker 3>are on posed to the United States of America, and

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<v Speaker 3>the President's feeling based on fact that Iran does pose

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<v Speaker 3>an imminent indirect threat to the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 3>based on the fact that they are the world's leading

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<v Speaker 3>state sponsor of terrorism, based on the fact that they

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<v Speaker 3>were rapidly and aggressively building up their ballistic missile program

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<v Speaker 3>to give themselves immunity within their country alongside their navy,

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<v Speaker 3>so that inside their country they could continue to create

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear weapons in nuclear bombs, which would of course pose

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<v Speaker 3>a risk to Americans in the region and even Americans

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<v Speaker 3>one day here at home. And then another point on

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<v Speaker 3>this is the President found that through these extensive, exhaustive

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<v Speaker 3>failed negotiations with Iran, that they were hell bent on

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<v Speaker 3>death and destruction. So again, the President was not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be just another president on a very long list

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<v Speaker 3>too sat back and stood by and pass the buck

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<v Speaker 3>of this direct threat to the next administration. The President

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<v Speaker 3>had a feeling, again based on fact, that Iran was

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<v Speaker 3>going to strike the United States, going to strike our

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<v Speaker 3>assets in the region, and he made a determination to

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<v Speaker 3>launch Operation Epic Fury based on all of those reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would like the media to actually report on

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<v Speaker 3>all of them rather than just picking sound bites from

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<v Speaker 3>one person in this administration and saying, oh, they're contradicting

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<v Speaker 3>the other person. No, again, these decisions are not made

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<v Speaker 3>in a vacuum. They are made by the president's feeling

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<v Speaker 3>that Iran was going to strike the United States and

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<v Speaker 3>our assets in the region, and he was not going

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<v Speaker 3>to sit back and watch that happen. The determination was

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<v Speaker 3>made that the President was going to strike first alongside Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>and that has obviously been proven to be the right

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<v Speaker 3>decision and an effective.

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<v Speaker 2>One at that.

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<v Speaker 1>What does feeling based on fact actually mean? And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't because I'm trying to be fair to her and

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<v Speaker 1>how she spoke and I want to be fair to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be fair to everybody. Rogue, but we

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<v Speaker 1>are just taking what we're being told. And she said

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<v Speaker 1>more than once. She could have qualified, she could have stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't have to put it that way. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling, you're looking at facts. Why didn't she just say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we had evidence, we were looking at these facts and

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<v Speaker 1>it pointed all to this happening. She literally is saying

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<v Speaker 1>we're at war because the president was just feeling it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is an odd choice of words, not only and look,

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand why she might have said it once,

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<v Speaker 2>but she doubled down and I lost count how many

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<v Speaker 2>times she reiterated feelings based on facts. I'm curious why

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<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't have said the President made a decision based

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<v Speaker 2>on the information he had. He made a decision based

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<v Speaker 2>on the evidence that was in front of him. He

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<v Speaker 2>made a decision based on past behavior and their current

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<v Speaker 2>refusal to sit down and negotiate in good faith. A

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<v Speaker 2>decision is a much stronger word than a f I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>She used that, So should we leave room for her

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<v Speaker 1>possibly misspeaking? And this wasn't what she wanted to actually say,

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to come back now? Because the headlines

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<v Speaker 1>are coming and bill folks are going crazy online about this,

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't a hard thing to pick up on

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<v Speaker 1>the idea what they are people are dying based on

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<v Speaker 1>the whims of one man's feelings. Are is the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>being had? We are not suggesting that, but Rhodes, is

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<v Speaker 1>it possible. I'm trying to leave room for just that

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<v Speaker 1>being a clunky way of describing it. But others will say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this goes in line for them. Now start a war,

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<v Speaker 1>then figure out a way to justify it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, I absolutely could give space for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just interesting. She kept doubling down on the word,

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like she didn't let it go. She kept reusing

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<v Speaker 2>that word.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like it was strategic, it was planned.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like President Trump gave her that phrase, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think he wanted maybe he I can't get inside

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<v Speaker 2>his hands, nobody can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We should speculate about thought.

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<v Speaker 2>It did seem deliberate, I guess, is my point. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't seem like she misspoke. It didn't seemed like it

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<v Speaker 2>was something that just came to her or a word

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<v Speaker 2>she chose when she could have chosen ten others. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a word that was repeatedly used, and it did

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<v Speaker 2>seem deliberate. From just my perspective, it seemed like a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was a lot more that came out of

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<v Speaker 1>this press briefing. Excuse me, I shouldn't say a lot more,

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<v Speaker 1>but the things that did come out certainly got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people's attention. Stay here, we'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>we think was maybe the most important question that was asked,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not answered. And one thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to now Romans be on the same page about

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<v Speaker 1>when asked what the objectives are, they seemed to have

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<v Speaker 1>that list of four down paths to hear. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we continue here on Amy and TJ. Just finished listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levity give the

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<v Speaker 1>first press briefing since the war with Iran started. If

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<v Speaker 1>you notice, I don't know if you do it too.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to slow down because I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>war in a rock every time, then rock.

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<v Speaker 2>When I hear you say war with Iran, I actually

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<v Speaker 2>breathe a sigh of relief because I think to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>if I was the one who was introducing this, I

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<v Speaker 2>might say a rock, I always think, oh, thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>he said Iran, because my brain immediately goes to a rock.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Cable News when we were at the

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<v Speaker 2>War with the Rock, so we said that, that's so

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<v Speaker 2>many times for so long that in my brain to

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<v Speaker 2>say the war with their rock.

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<v Speaker 1>We literally said that on air for years in cable

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<v Speaker 1>that was absolutely something was going. So, yes, we're still

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<v Speaker 1>adjusting to this new reality here. They do have now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have been pretty consistent. At least they

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<v Speaker 1>say what are the objectives of this war? That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>to be a consistent list at this point. At least

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<v Speaker 1>they want to eliminate their ballistic missiles okay, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to destroy their naval appabilities, that's two. Okay, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure they destroy any path of nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, And they want to disrupt their missile and

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<v Speaker 1>drone infrastructure for objectives, but robes the most important question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who the reporter was on this one either.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Okay, say you reach every single one of

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<v Speaker 1>those objectives, which it seems like this all powerful US

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<v Speaker 1>freaking military has done pretty quickly or certainly on the

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<v Speaker 1>way to let's say you get all of that you want,

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<v Speaker 1>you accomplish it, but there's no regime change. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>acceptable for the president? That is an important question. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get an answer no.

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<v Speaker 2>And look when we hear from the president himself saying

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<v Speaker 2>that it's up to the Iranian people to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>who they want to lead their own country, and you

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<v Speaker 2>take out their leader and look, well, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>country that is obviously vastly different from our country from

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<v Speaker 2>a religious perspective, from a what they've experienced for decades

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<v Speaker 2>and decades of this. I don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>put a word in front of but certainly they have

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<v Speaker 2>been under a very tyrannical regime the Supreme Leader. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have freedoms. This isn't a democracy. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>they're used to. This is all they know. And we

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<v Speaker 2>expect the people of Iran because there, yes, have been

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<v Speaker 2>obviously demonstrations of late, but to just then suddenly have

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<v Speaker 2>the wherewithal and the strength and the ability to rise

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<v Speaker 2>up and create a whole new type of government, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it could be done in the next decade

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<v Speaker 1>is where we are, But that robes is key. What

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<v Speaker 1>if And there's questions, now, Yatola, how many his son

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<v Speaker 1>is possibly in line?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the question asked of Carolyn Love is the

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<v Speaker 2>front runner?

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<v Speaker 1>And she dodged it. She did like it's a hypothetical,

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<v Speaker 1>like they aren't aware. The question is is Trump okay

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<v Speaker 1>with this guy or not? It's the Supreme Leader's son

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<v Speaker 1>he's taking over. Does that regime change is? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take Aron into a whole different direction? Rogues That

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<v Speaker 1>is a question. I cannot wait to hear somebody answer.

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<v Speaker 1>You achieve everything on your list, but the regime is

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<v Speaker 1>still there? What are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't look. I can't imagine, just from a

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<v Speaker 2>logical perspective, that you'd be willing to go through all

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<v Speaker 2>of this risk American lives and actually sacrifice American lives

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<v Speaker 2>to not have a plan about what happens after you

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<v Speaker 2>achieve your goal. And how could who rules that country

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<v Speaker 2>going forward not be a part of your objective? Why

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't that be a part of your objective? Shouldn't that

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of your objective if you take out

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<v Speaker 2>the leader, the Supreme Leader? And she said today we

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<v Speaker 2>heard from Carolyn Levitt. She actually gave a number. She

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<v Speaker 2>said we took Actually she said it this way, forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine leaders in Iran have been wiped off the face

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<v Speaker 2>of the earth. So if we've taken out forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>of their leaders and I guess potential successors to the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Leader, shouldn't we have a plan? Shouldn't that have

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<v Speaker 2>been a part of And it doesn't look they might

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<v Speaker 2>have one, and they're just not telling us. So they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to show their hand. And I'll give them

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<v Speaker 2>that space because that could absolutely be true. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is disturbing when you don't have an answer about how

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<v Speaker 2>Iran should be governed going forward. Coupled with the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that we're hearing now from Carolyn Levitt that the President

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<v Speaker 2>made this decision based on a good feeling, all of

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't feel great as an American.

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<v Speaker 1>But do know, folks, right now, the fighting all of

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<v Speaker 1>that can continues. We continue to give updates. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the President's actually has an event this afternoon. Not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if he make comments at the top of it

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<v Speaker 1>or not. It was an economic form of something around

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<v Speaker 1>table he was doing. But this is getting attention. You

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<v Speaker 1>heard it for yourselves what she said in the context

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<v Speaker 1>in which she said it, so We will see if

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<v Speaker 1>they try to clear that one up, if we get

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<v Speaker 1>any more answers as to what exactly was the imminent

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<v Speaker 1>threat beyond a gut feeling from President Trump. So folks,

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<v Speaker 1>we will hop back on anytime news dictates, but we

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<v Speaker 1>always appreciate you spending some time with us on TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes along time. My dear Amy Robach, we will talk

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<v Speaker 1>to y'all soon