1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast personal foul. Yes, it's a 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: play on words from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: around the NFL. Danhansis, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. I hope 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: nobody's roughing you up, Marcus. We'll roll over strong and 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: take care of any adversary. I'd almost invited just to 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: find out what sort of come up and so they 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: would receive from the two of you. I thought it 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: was referring to us, and I was thinking I personally 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: need to change um and turn a new leaf in 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: the year off season, just be kinder and gentler to 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler that maybe we have roughed him up too much, 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: and uh, I think we should just all don't I 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: get annoyed at you more than you get a nad 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: at me. I feel like I need to maybe be there. 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: There was the season, Yeah, the season I think it was. 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: It was just like Mark was just banging me over 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: the head pretty much most of the year. It all 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: blurs into one. There's therapy that you guys can go 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: to together and work those things out, or right on 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: the mic. I prefer that. Yeah, I think that's where 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: it should take place in my audience. I'm not known 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: as a man that throws hands. But when we were 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: at Lakisha's a couple of weeks ago, uh, Nick Westling 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: reminded me that, uh, some guy kind of got up 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: in Colleen's business and Tybee and then I got up 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: in that dude's business and then Nick rolled over and 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: it was like, do we need to hands? And it 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: was like I did that, and I was like, I'm 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: pretty proud of myself. I might have been drinking that night. No, 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: the guy was gonzo, so it seems like he had 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: an appropriate, you know, sort of place there, but it 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: was where it went. That's why he's the best there. 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go from a two years encountering global 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: pandemic into World Worth three. So that's the thing that 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: might be happening right now. But the good thing is 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: here in the round. The NFL podcast will never stop. 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: We will keep potting no matter what happens in society. 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: If we can make it through the last year, I 39 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: think we can already had our own World War three. 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: This part feels easy. I'm not saying for everyone involved, 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: but for our simple task we can plow through all right. 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Not for everyone involved, just I don't want to get 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're good. I'm excited. I know you guys 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: know I'm excited because the Flashpoint Focus series debuts today. 45 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is the subject and Zach Kieffer the athletic 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: will be on the program. So get ready for that. 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: And we'll also now we haven't done this in a while. 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's we're settling into the cadence of the 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: off season. We're gonna do some news. You wanna do 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: some news, Let's do some news, Ricky. It's gonna be 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: a great game. I'm in a really good game. There's 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people who'd like to be calling that game, 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: but it should be a lot of fun. And Troy 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: Aikman still pissed. I imagine that he was sent to 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: cover the Eagles Bucks playoff game instead of going into 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: Dallas to cover Niners San Francis Niners against Dallas. And 57 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk about Troy Aikman in just a moment. But 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: let's start where we must always start at this time 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: of year. Now it's now become a tradition on this podcast. 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk Aaron Rodgers. We talked on Tuesday about the 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: situation uh Rogers leaving the cryptic Instagram post telling everybody 62 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: to read a book. Get off, get off my porch 63 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: with that. You didn't like that. I'll read when I 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: want how I want. You're not. I know you're a 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: Jeopardy champion, but I don't need that. Then he goes 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: on Pat mcfeed says nothing about his future. Brian Guda 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: kunst the GM. He has his press gathering this week, 68 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: like Goody, and he hits some questions about Aaron Rodgers. 69 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: This has to be so annoying for good acause even 70 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: things things don't seem as um sour as they were 71 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: last year, this has still got to be annoying. He 72 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: was asked what he does, Goody if Aaron Rodgers comes 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: to him seeking a trade. You know, those are kind 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: of some hypotheticals. I don't think we're gonna go down 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: those roads right now. And then Goody was also asked 76 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: how does rogers uncertain situation affect everything else as he 77 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: tries to build a champion in Green Bay right now? Yeah, 78 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: I think you know, obviously, everything around here kind of 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: centers around the quarterback. That's kind of how we do things. 80 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: So it's a big piece. It's a Domino that um 81 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: kind of has to fall before we go down, you know, 82 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: other avenues. So um, so it's important you know, as 83 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: we go through this and the puzzle pieces that we 84 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: gotta make fit. I think so um that's the first 85 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: one to go. So that's a big fat no dot 86 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Greg obviously, because here's the thing. When Rodgers the report 87 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: coming a month, He's not gonna leave everybody hanging throughout 88 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: the spring and summer. Well he can't because there's a 89 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: team involved here that needs to try to build their 90 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: roster with free agency upon us. ESPN's Diana Rossini reported 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers will be informing the packers of his 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: decision soon and it cannot come a second too soon 93 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: for me. The interesting part of that report was that 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: there were multiple offers on the table for Rodgers. I thought, 95 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. That's not surprising that it's 96 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: already happened. I wonder if they're like these official offers. 97 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean, is gooded cunts picking up the phone, is 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: gooded cunts just obsessed with the Monday of next week's announcement. 99 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: I believe. I think we're hoping to find out what's 100 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: going to be the German game because you know, gooda 101 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: cunts wants to go back to the homeland. Uh in Germany. 102 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: I just think to the center of this, I think 103 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: he's slow playing this because he's expecting Rodgers to come back. 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is the contract. Aaron Rodgers is 105 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: that domino. So yeah, okay, you want to come back. 106 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: That's part one. The complicated part is what's the deal 107 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: that he's going to get to reduce a forty six 108 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: million dollar cap number, which is what he has right now. 109 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: He's not gonna play next year under his current base salary, 110 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to move money around. They're gonna 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: have to do something similar for Davante Adams and hopefully 112 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: for them eventually. They've already reduced their cap space this 113 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: week by fifteen million dollars by restructuring some deals. There's 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: going to be more of that. He is busy. I 115 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: think they're gonna have to cut it Areas Smith at 116 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: some point. There's a lot going on. The scrub by 117 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: the way, the social scrub troupe alert. He scrubbed the 118 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: Packers from his social media. I'm getting tired of that 119 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: move at this point, all right, I already am touched. 120 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Great signing. Uh, great free agent signing, two amazing years 121 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 1: and then one total. Uh. They could both be gone, 122 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: and so I just would be stunned if it's anything 123 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: but Rogers staying yeah, I'm with you. I think you 124 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: just follow the money like they're aiding cap space. It's 125 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: it seems to me that money would solve probably a 126 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: lot with Aaron Rodgers at this point, and the way 127 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: he also talked about Goody, that communication has been very good. 128 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: I think the Packers in general front office has done 129 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: a nice job of kind of lowering the chaos level. 130 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: You can only do so much with Aaron Rodgers because 131 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: he's spouting off weekly about tangential scenarios. But like from 132 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: the Packers side, they've kind of tempered this. They are 133 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: in control to some degree, Like I mean, they are 134 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: in control like that. You can have trade offers, but 135 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: it's like you get a mountain back form. I don't 136 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: think there's any interest to trade him. I would assume 137 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: Denver's one of those teams, because I would. I think 138 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Hackett's probably first order of business was to call up 139 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: his old friends in Green Bay and say, let's at 140 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: least discuss this. It's like, let him think he's in 141 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: control when he's not. Isn't that what you do with 142 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: man children or problem individuals? Just let them think that 143 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: they're running the producer. You know, producers at this network 144 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: for like the higher level talent. You got a massage 145 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that relationship. Let let them feel like they're the ones 146 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: in control. Went we we handle you? I think definitely. 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's the way that the Packers. I 148 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: don't think Cuda Gunstan, their front office and La Fleura 149 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: have gotten enough credit. Uh. We were saying this last summer, 150 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: I got killed for it, Mark that Rogers was being 151 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: petulant and it can be difficult to deal with. Uh. 152 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: But they could have panicked or reacted off that last 153 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: summer and and made a move and traded him away. 154 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: But they were able to get that thing calmed down 155 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: enough to get him to camp to win another m 156 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: v P. Obviously things didn't work out in the playoffs, 157 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: but now I think they've been able to stabilize the situation. 158 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: Now they just got to get this thing locked and 159 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: loaded and then go about their off season. Uh. In 160 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: other news, this one's interesting to me and it actually 161 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: makes sense to me when you, UM, kind of try 162 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on with the Niners last season, 163 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: where you there was so much hype around Trey Lands 164 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: drafted third overall, and the gen all thought that he 165 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: was gonna be unleashed uh in the Kyle Shanahan offense, 166 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: and that he was going to be a difference maker. 167 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: And then you waited for him to kind of take 168 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: over at some point last year and it just never did. 169 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: And Jimmy Garobolo played the entire season, including a playoff win, 170 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: and then they got picked off obviously um in the 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: NFC title game. But Adam Schefter of VSPN reported that 172 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and the Niners could stick with Jimmy g 173 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: Ino uh for multiple reasons. Here one mark the QB 174 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: is popular with his teammates. They like him, and that's true. 175 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: We heard that a lot a lot of people barking 176 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: in the on social media. Uh, you fools don't realize 177 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: in paraphrasing, Uh, look at this man's record. He is 178 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: a winner. All that stuff that's that obviously carries weight 179 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: in that locker room. And then also Chefter reported that 180 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: Trey Lance still has a ways to go in his 181 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: development as a passer. Schefter said that Lance was probably 182 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: further behind than people realized. Lance is greener than people realized, 183 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Trey Lance is going to need more work than people 184 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: real lies, and they have a roster that can win. Now, Mark, 185 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: that sounds to me. Now, I'm not saying that they 186 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: think Lance is an issue or it's a mistake that 187 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: they drafted him, but this is not going to what 188 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: their initial plan was, and they're trying to maybe figure 189 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: out a pivot here. Yeah. Schefter added that the team 190 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: is in quotes happy with Lances development. No, they're not. 191 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is not where you wanted to be 192 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: at this point with this player and the move that 193 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: you made, a titanic move to get into position to 194 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: take this guy over Matt Jones, overfilling the blank, and 195 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: his development never really took form. I mean, we spent 196 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: most of last offseason presuming that Jimmy g would just 197 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: get replaced at some point by Trey Lance and a 198 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: Kaepernick over Alex Smith type style. It never happened. I 199 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: think that you're right. I think that they if anything, 200 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: you're reducing risk because you can't go in with Jordan's 201 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: love two point oh and have that another Shanahan season 202 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: swept by the wayside. I mean, Jimmy G. For all 203 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: his flaws, I think he're right. He is the support 204 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: of his teammates um in almost a surprising fashion for 205 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the fact that he also hams rings them at side 206 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: of times, the coaches believe it into some degree. They've 207 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: been real with Jimmy G from A to B, and 208 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: so I think maybe this is like, let's just run 209 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: back what happened last year. And I will also wonder 210 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: if maybe that you know, people calling up the Niners 211 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: to trade for Jimmy G. There maybe isn't as much 212 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: demand there as we would think, right, I just think 213 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: it's leverage. They have no leverage. No one's interested in 214 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy G right now, necessarily because he's probably not anyone's 215 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: first option of like what we're gonna do this offseason. 216 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: It's at a spot where everyone knows they're gonna trade, 217 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: so that hurts their leverage, and so they have to 218 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: throw it out there that we may not. And I 219 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: believe it because he's not getting paid that much money. 220 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: Twenty four million dollars is not that crazy a base salary. 221 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: That said, I would be very surprised if he was 222 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: on the roster like him plus Trey Lances, salary is 223 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: not that much for the quarterback position. The problem is 224 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: Jimmy G stunk like that was the worst five or 225 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: six game stretch of his career. And I know he 226 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: was injured, but he was one of the worst quarterbacks 227 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: in the league. And I know they won despite that, 228 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: and we get caught up in wins and losses. I 229 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: don't need to hear about trade Lances behind or whatever. 230 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: I saw him play two games. It's worth noting. Uh. 231 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: He had eight point five yards per tempt, five touchdowns, 232 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: two interceptions. I thought he made some plays in those 233 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: two games. It wasn't that bad. And I feel like 234 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna play trade Lance. They're just holding out the 235 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: possibility that if absolutely no one gives up anything for 236 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: Jimmy G, that would you rather keep them than cut them. 237 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: I could buy that. I could buy that. Yeah, I see, 238 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: I do see this a little different. Uh. I think 239 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: it is a breadcrumb that they're trying to like recalibrate 240 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: their situation because Lance might not be ready in year two, 241 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: which I don't think they ever anticipated. Well, here here's 242 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: the reason why I buy they would keep them is 243 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: because if you trade them, you save twenty five million 244 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: dollars in cap space if you cut them. Uh, it's similar, 245 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: but it's a little less clean. And I just feel 246 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: like they're gonna want to have a second veteran quarterback 247 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: either way, and so if no one's gonna give him 248 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: up anything like, okay, we I I don't buy it though. 249 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: I think it's too message. I hear you, but I 250 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: think it's just playing the chefter sort of leverage. Throw 251 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: it out there. That's I mean, that's all in there. 252 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: But I like the thing that you're striving for as 253 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: an organization is a star quarterback on a rookie deal. 254 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: And this, this report is disturbing. If you're a Niners fan, 255 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: you're not thinking this means nothing. It's it's keeping you 256 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 1: up at night. To some degree, it does make me 257 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: wonder if Kyle Shannon and his quiet moments, you know, 258 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: wishes he get stuck to his guns and taken mac Jones. 259 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: I think it's there is a I think this report 260 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: and we'll see how it plays out is to me 261 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: another maybe seed of doubt at least amongst the football 262 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: guy mass. Then yeah, where's this report? Comes like like 263 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: I think people forget that week seventeen game that last 264 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: made the wrong How long have you guys been doing 265 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: this show together? Like how long? Like Dan does his 266 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: pause and then you too, just like maybe they're forcefully 267 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: trying to end the bit, but it's just like once 268 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: it takes off it you're right from a dramatic pause angle. 269 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: We did a greg and I did a poor job there, Erica, 270 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: But I understand that could have been that could have 271 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: been a pushback also, even if it was something they didn't, 272 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: I think they were doing it. I like the bit. 273 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even calling it a bit. I 274 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: think it's it's high drama and it's shows. It was 275 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of the sense. Sure, but well I guess, 276 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, I understand how that feels sometimes, So you 277 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: just gotta you know, you gotta roll the punches. Dan 278 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: acts absolutely, Mark Mark, how do you get by? How 279 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: do you survive? It's not you know, it's it's a 280 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: what Janard penalty? Rough in the sense? All right? Uh? 281 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: Time now for news and notes presented by up work 282 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: where you could build the team that will build your business. 283 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Learn more at upwork dot com. Nail that read all right, 284 00:14:54,520 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: now boys, Troy Aikman. Okay, here here's the drama around 285 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: Troy right now? Is he gonna stay at Box? I 286 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: love that tune, Lady d d Well. Let's see the 287 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: That next part is where it really takes off, Ricky. 288 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: But I understand why you cut it short? Or will 289 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman go to Thursday Night Football for Amazon? See 290 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: they don't have a song yet, but once they do, 291 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: this is a placeholder. That's the Amazon. Okay, I can 292 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: get some water maybe some waterfall? Act good call Ricky 293 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: and post? Can we had some waterfall in there? Or 294 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: does he end up at and I think you will? 295 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football? Monday Night up? All needs a real 296 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: analyst and could it be Troy? From our boy Andrew 297 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: Marshawn over at the New York Post Hall of Famer. 298 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman is expected to leave Fox Sports to become 299 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: the main analyst for ESPNS Monday Night Football. The deal 300 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: will be for five years, according to sources, and his 301 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: yearly salary is expected to approach or exceed the neighborhood 302 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: of Tony Romo seventeen and a half mill per year 303 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: deal with CBS. The deal is not signed yet, so 304 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: things can change. And this is a dramatic little melodrama 305 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: that's a soap profit on this whole uh carousel with 306 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: the analysts, and it's getting even more juicy now as 307 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: the money gets bigger. But the deal is near completion. 308 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: ESPN declined comment mark Aikman's move. He was connected to 309 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Amazon a lot. We thought that's where he's gonna end 310 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: up with al Michaels, who looks like he'll be the 311 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: voice of Thursday Night Football, but going to Monday Night 312 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: Football apparently busting up that unit and giving people a 313 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: reason not to just watch the Manning cast every week. 314 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: That's a big play by ESPN if that's what goes down. Yeah, 315 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: I mean, if all this, all these moving parts, I 316 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: can't think of a year where, like the announcing teams 317 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: that we've been so accustomed to, uh drinking in with, 318 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: all these games could shift and change so much, so dramatically. 319 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Because you know, we know that al Michaels was someone 320 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: that wanted He's in talks to do t NF. He 321 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: wanted Aikman to go there as well. It would leave 322 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: Fox with a major hole next to Joe Buck. Joe 323 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: Buck is someone that was whispered about in this article 324 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: as someone that ESPN might try to lower away to 325 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: recreate the Achmen Buck team. So I think, you know, 326 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: we have to see where the apemen is the first 327 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: piece here, but a lot would change. And I you know, 328 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: if you're Steve Levy, Lewis Riddick and Brian Greasy, you're 329 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: just the person that's always um they've been looking up 330 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: self from you from from from point a right. And 331 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: in the article by Marcia and he mentions how they're 332 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: gonna have so many games because the ABC is also 333 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: adding games and their Saturdays, that they're gonna need two teams, 334 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: and that's a nice way to cut kind of implying 335 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: that they'll be the backup team. I just look at like, 336 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: why is this article out there right now? It says 337 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: on the verge expected to That just feels like, let's 338 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: how you get ahead of a story, Rosenthal. I don't 339 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: want the guy that reports when it's finalized. You want 340 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: to be the one that lets everyone knows what he's doing. 341 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: Of course he does, He's doing a great job. My 342 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: point is it left the window open for Fox Sports 343 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: to come back in. They clearly weren't paying Aikman what 344 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: he wanted, all right, I'm just saying it. I wouldn't. 345 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to like totally talk about all what 346 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: it all means. And al Michael's it sounds like his 347 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: negotiation accordion Marshawn at the one yard line of Amazon. 348 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes he got a Super Bowl right 349 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: in front of your at the one yard line, Alcolm Butler, 350 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: alculp Bela. Hopefully that's not his own one yard life, 351 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: So who knows, maybe al Michael's ends up. As you 352 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: mentioned at ESPN, how this all came to be is 353 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: really fascinating to me. When Romo got the seventeen and 354 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: a half million Aikman, who is also Cowboys quarterback, I 355 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: saw all the love that Romo was getting. His head exploded, 356 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: he picked up the brain I was better than him 357 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: as a player. I'm sure he's confident in himself as 358 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: a broadcaster, and I'm making way less money than this guy. 359 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: He apparently used that leverage to get a new deal 360 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: before last year, getting a raise up to thirteen million dollars, 361 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: and that deal had an out that he could blow 362 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: it up after just one year. And that looks like 363 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: what he's doing. Right now, and then he's covering Eagles 364 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: playoff game and he's like, hell, no, I am gone. 365 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: He gone. He got better too. I think he started 366 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: trying harder and got better in the last two years. 367 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: I really believe that we talked about that he sort 368 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: of was reaching a new level as maybe Alma was, 369 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, settling and you know, taking a little bit 370 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: of a step back. I think Aikman got the eye 371 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: of the type I think Aikman to me, and this 372 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: might connect to as he got further away from playing, 373 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: although he hasn't played in twenty years now, but also 374 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: maybe any aspirations about working in a front office or 375 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: anything like that. I felt like he was more willing 376 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: to criticize players and coaches who needed to be criticized 377 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: in recent years, and I always think that's good. I 378 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: don't like when you could tell Drew Brees a guy's 379 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: being gun shy because he doesn't want to affect relationships. 380 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: You have to call it like you see him. And 381 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Aikman did that in recent years in 382 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: a way he hadn't before that. Marshawn doesn't mind like 383 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: just throwing some mess out there. He threw out Sean 384 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: McVeigh as a person they might go after he threw 385 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: out John Lynch, who, oh, by the way, is the 386 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: GM of the So like Tom Brady, are these coming 387 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: out of nowhere? And Brady unlike the others he said, 388 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: like it's there's no indication that he would be interested. Um, 389 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: but the fact that he said that about Brady and 390 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: not those other two guys, Like, do you think some 391 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: of these players though, or some of these individuals would 392 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: rather sign up? You can't have too many of these 393 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: because a copycat that goes wrong would be a nightmare. 394 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: And I never watched it, but more like the Manning 395 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: Cast format seems to me to be the future to 396 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: some degree of how we watch games. I'm not saying 397 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: it's the only one, but these like high arch deals. 398 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: It's like I could see some players saying I would 399 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: rather do that, but not have to do the other 400 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: thing where maybe you suck at it? Can I share 401 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: a downside of this because I, like many other people, 402 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: really grew to enjoy the Manning Cast. Uh when Anthony 403 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: Anderson wasn't on the show. And what I if you 404 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: actually have aikman on the main telcast. Now I have 405 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: a decision to make where businesses and and I mean 406 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: no disrespect of the other guys leaving and the and 407 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: the crew. It was not a hard decision before. I 408 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: flipped back and forth, partly because my kids hated the 409 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: Manning cast. They were like, what is the point of this? 410 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: But I liked it. Back and forth. It's like sort 411 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: of depending on the game, even the bigger game, I'm going. 412 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: If it's a big game, I'm going Aikman and I'm 413 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: doing some flipping. Because when it was I want just 414 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: the Mannings. I don't even need guests to guests give 415 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: me second quarter, fourth quarter. When it was just the Mannings, 416 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: then it was really I would find myself like fault, 417 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: like dreamily falling into the Manning cast. But then like 418 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: eight minutes of game action was going on that I 419 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to. It's like, wait a minute, we 420 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: gotta talk about this tomorrow. So when like Phil Nicholson 421 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: his drinks down, you know question four at Eyton Manning 422 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: talk about the Manning cast curse for Phil Nicholson. Oh, 423 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: they did get him. They got Phil too, Uncle Phil. Finally, 424 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: Oh I hope they doesn't move and I hope they 425 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: bump up Bolston because it just to me, it upgrades 426 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: everyone wins is great and this is this is not 427 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: a show of Marshawn, because it does excellent work. But 428 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: I keep seeing in his articles and elsewhere. And this 429 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: is especially important because Fox says to the next three 430 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: super Bowls, trust me, they're gonna be fine. If Kevin 431 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Burkhardt and Greg Olsen called the game, they will be fine. 432 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: It's not like it's a panic to get someone else 433 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: in there. Those guys are pros, who are bros. That 434 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: was News and I was presented by up Work around 435 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: the NFL guest Kevin Burkhart. Yeah, I love Burkhard, the 436 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: world's work marketplace. Learn more at up work dot com. 437 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: Finally in the News, that was the interview. I love 438 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: Burkhart also and could not wait to speak with him. 439 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: And my Mike was not on and like we were on. 440 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: It was our television show, remember that, and I and 441 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: like it was one of the just like at that point, 442 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: just you know, a bomb land on my house please. 443 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: That was a very clear instance of whistle personal foul. Yeah, 444 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: well yes, hey, how about like let's get Kevin Harlan 445 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: in there with Aikman. We don't need to go try 446 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: to get Joe Buck. Harlan Aikman, who's not loving that. 447 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Westwood will survive as well. They will find 448 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: Satman was doing the All Star Game one week after 449 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: doing the Super Bowl. Who has that sort of versatility 450 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: at that level? The guy is drunk, the guys. Finally 451 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: in the news, Tom Brady has quote unquote retired. Well, 452 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: he's got a year to kill before he comes back 453 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: into the league. Uh and while he has that time, 454 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: he is going to play himself in a movie titled 455 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: eight for Give Me that Fox Sound again. Because we're 456 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: talking show business now eighty four Brady a football themed 457 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: road trip flick set to begin production this spring. According 458 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: to The Hollywood Reporter, Brady will produce the film Hollywood 459 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: parlance that is heresy, putting some money. He's fronted in. 460 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: He gets the back end. It's got the I P. 461 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: That's nice. It will start. Listen to this cast of 462 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: All Star legends, Lily Tomlin, Jane Fonda. Well, some people 463 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: don't like Jane, they don't like some of the things 464 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: that you did in her past. But good performer, great performer, Barbaralla, 465 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: Rida Moreno, and Sally Field, who's your favorite of that group. 466 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: It's one of the weirdest couple of minutes on the show, Tomlin, 467 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: I guess I like, I'm just looking forward to I 468 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: think people forget Rita Moreno was. She's ninety years old. 469 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: She was in Singing in the Rain and the King 470 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: and unbelievable. Here's the plot, Greg, you tell me if 471 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: you'll go see this movie. Four women who traveled to 472 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: see Brady play in Super Bowl to fifty one. That's 473 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: a game, of course against the Falcons. The fifth title, 474 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: uh March Brady launched onductions. We get it. You were 475 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: the pick in the draft enough, which will help make 476 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: the film along with Paramount Pictures and Endeavor Content. Not Fox. 477 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: But that's you know, that's neither here nor there. I mean, 478 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I love love a road trip movie. I mean it, 479 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: it's like an older version of that Britney Spears movie Crossroads, Crossroads, Shoulder. 480 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: What a class Erica Tampos's face. Yeah, I my my brother, 481 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: my dad were at that game, so that you know 482 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: it's a lot of good. He's a great actor. Your 483 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: brother and dad were at the Crossroads. Form me, maybe 484 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: they can get into Brady was so good on in 485 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: Stuck on You. The Fairly Brothers movie starring that is 486 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: not one of the better Fairly Brothers. Can hear him 487 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: and Lawyer malloy we're on it together that I'm just 488 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to see how he grows as an actor. 489 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Is that the movie where Jack Black fell in love 490 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: with Gwyneth Paltrow in the Fat Suit? No? No, absolutely, 491 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: and that's a totally different movie. Stuck on Stuck on 492 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: you about Siamese Twins? Was it? Yeah, you could make 493 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: movies like that two thousand three. Fairly Brothers were in 494 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: different times, different times, my friends. I will see this 495 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: in the theater, probably on its in its opening week. 496 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Brady hosted Saturday Night Live. I used that as the gauge. 497 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: Like Peyton was very good on Saturday Night Live. They're 498 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: They're Michael Phelps was brewing rule on Saturday Night Live. 499 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Eli was fine, Jeter was fine, like these guys are. 500 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: Eli was a lot better than Jeter. Eli was solid, 501 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: all right. Jeter wasn't great. But it's a great ballplayer though. 502 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: But Brady was not good at all. Wooden was bad. Hell, 503 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: Jordan's brutal. Most of them are. Joe Montana had one 504 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: great sketch where he was going upstairs to do something, 505 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: and the fans of the SNL know what that is. 506 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Will Brady recreate the same hair he had back then? 507 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's he seems to have a 508 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: different hairstyle, so many wigs, so sure well he could 509 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: do us stand Oslovski's class here. There's a lot of 510 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: chance time fling a plants, crafty acting skills. All right, 511 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. And uh, we'll take 512 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: a break here and when we come back, Oh yeah, 513 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: Flashpoint Focus Colon Carson Wentz working title, Maybe maybe not 514 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: after the break. All right, welcome back, and it is 515 00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: time our flash Point Focus series Colon Carson and Wentz. 516 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: And who better to help us, help guide us through 517 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: this maze in the Hoosier State. Then a legend. He 518 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: is a dad to two awesome little girls. He covers 519 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: the cults, the NFL for the Athletic. He's an analyst 520 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: for Wish TV and adjunct professor for Indiana Anniversity. And 521 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: he also wrote a beautiful piece on Chris West for 522 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: the Athletic. Of course, we're talking about Zach Kieffer, who 523 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: knows what's going on with the cults. What's up body. 524 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: What a dramatic intro. I don't know if I can 525 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: love up to all that that you just described. Well, 526 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: it's all there in the Twitter bio back and uh, 527 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: we thank you for joining us. And you are a 528 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: professor and you do look professor oial right now, and 529 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: I think we all applaud you for that as well. 530 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: You have levels. I try to play the role on 531 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: Thursdays during the spring. I've had to stop class a 532 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: couple of times when news happens and say, hey, you guys, 533 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: give me five minutes. I gotta text somebody to get 534 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: this news out. But hey, it's a good lesson in 535 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: how the business works right now. It's it's been rap 536 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: sheets move for a while. He basically has given up on, 537 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, being polite or really human communication because he 538 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: can just stop any conversation in the middle of it. 539 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: There's actually no one texted him. That's just what he did. Zach. 540 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: Let's let's get into it, because yes, they we were 541 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: all trying to figure out, like everyone else, what the 542 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: cults are gonna do at the quarterback position. And you wrote, 543 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: um a really good piece on the Athletic about this. 544 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: You talked about it on your podcast. Uh. In fact, 545 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: I have the exact wording from Zach and if he 546 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: leaves nothing. You know, these Gerno types, they're very pointed 547 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: in the words they choose. It. It's my firm expectation, 548 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: based on recent conversations that the Colts will move on 549 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: from Carson Wentz and Zach. That's three years and eighty 550 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: two million dollars left on the deally signed with the 551 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: Eagles in but only one year of guaranteed money. I'll 552 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: start here. There have been so many bread crumbs about 553 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: moving on from Wentz, But how do you actually do that? 554 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: Do you think there's a trade market for Wentz? And 555 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: if they do shake free of this commitment, where do 556 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: they go from here? Yeah? I probably should have couched 557 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: that by saying never say never. But he's moving on, 558 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: He's not coming back. That's my like I said, like 559 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: I wrote, my firm expectation, he will need to not 560 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: be back for a second year. And to be clear, 561 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna own fifteen million dollars and that's not even 562 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: the deciding factor here. That's something that they're just gonna 563 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: have to live with. Um, they're gonna move on from him. 564 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: Trade market. I'm really fascinated to see because there's a 565 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: lot of teams that need quarterbacks. And when you stack 566 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: up Wentz's numbers and production last year, which wasn't horrible 567 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: against a lot of these guys, it compares favorably well. 568 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: But and I think a lot of your audience probably 569 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: looks at twenty seven touchdowns and seven interceptions and says 570 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: he was pretty good. And there were stretches last year 571 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: when he was pretty good. But for those who watched 572 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: the tape, you see the problems that arose. You know, 573 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: they had to become a run first offense with Jonathan 574 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: Taylor because they didn't trust the quarterback. He cost them 575 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: late in a lot of games. They were two and 576 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: five and one score games. The quarterback had a lot 577 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: to do with that. And I've even gotten to Las 578 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: Vegas and Jacksonville when he absolutely just melted down. They 579 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: cost away percent chance at the playoffs. It just ended disastrously. 580 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: And I'm very, very convinced that they're moving on. It's 581 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: just gonna happen, whether they can find a trade partner 582 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: or not, and if not, they'll just cut them before 583 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: March nineteen. That extra million is due. Wow, Well, I 584 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: think two they could get a late round pick firm 585 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: or something that makes the money go a little bit easier. 586 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: Is it just an emotional thing? It feels like it's 587 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: er say, from the outside, because there's there's different sources, 588 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: and there's an ESPN report you've been writing about it 589 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: that really last month and a half, and it feels 590 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of like the boss just wants them gone. And 591 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: if if it wasn't for er, say, do you feel 592 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: like reich uh and Chris Ballard would maybe be as 593 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: aggress of getting rid of him without even knowing kind 594 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: of what's behind door number two and who they could 595 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: get back. Yeah, that's a good question, and that's fair. Um, 596 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I understand the emotion that comes after Jacksonville. I'm sure 597 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: you guys talked about it. I mean, this was in 598 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: Urs's words. I talked to him about eight or nine 599 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: days after the season ended, and he said this was 600 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: an epic shortfall that stunned and shocked and appalled as all. 601 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean, when don't you hear an NFL owners say 602 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: that they were road favorites by fourteen, the biggest spread 603 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: they've ever had an NFL history, and there in their history, 604 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: rest of the teams that day too, by the way, 605 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: it's worth correct. Yeah, yeah, And I've written that they 606 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: need more receiver than Michael Pittman Jr. They don't have 607 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: anything at tight end. It's not all on Carson. It's 608 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: not um. But after this season this was very telling. 609 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: A year ago they said we want Philip Rivers back. 610 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: He retired. This time around, both Chris Ballot and Frank right, 611 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: and Chris can't help himself. He tells you what he 612 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: thinks most of the time. He said, you've got to 613 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: make the layoups Carson, which is code forward, dude, just 614 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: take the check downs. And then secondly, neither of them 615 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: committed to bringing him back and said we're gonna look 616 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: at all our options. They're looking at their options and 617 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: they're not great right now. That's that's my question with 618 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard. I mean, we just are coming out of 619 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: a period last offseason where the Rams swung for the fences. 620 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: They don't care about first round picks. They'll mortgage the 621 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: future from Matthew Stafford. The read on Chris Ballard, I mean, 622 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: they don't have a first round pick. Where do you go? 623 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: Are you going to try to sell the cults fans 624 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: that Teddy Bridgewater is the right move at this point 625 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: or some sort that the free agent class is a mess. 626 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: What do you see them doing. Are they a candidate 627 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: to maybe try to get a Russell Wilson or someone 628 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: like that, or is it just finding another mid tier 629 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: quarterback because the distaste with Carson Wentz is so intense. 630 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: Isn't that telling they don't have a good plan B 631 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: they don't have There's no like obvious answer. They have 632 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: some money, but they don't have a first round pick 633 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: because of the Wentz trade. There's no obvious answer. And 634 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: they're still going to move on from Carson Wentz. That 635 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: tells you how they feel about him in my opinion, 636 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: That's my take away. And Mark, I mean, what's the 637 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: play you can't sell Teddy Bridgewater. I mean you could 638 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: make the case that Carson Wentz is a better option, 639 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: and I know there's last with both. But the reality is, 640 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: and I wrote this, this team might need to accept 641 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: the fact that they go backwards at quarterback in two 642 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: And it's a really interesting dilemma because you've got guys 643 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: like Quenton Nelson and Darius Lender and they had seven 644 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers last year. That's the most in the league, 645 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: and then you make the playoffs. And and it's funny 646 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: because for all those years with Andrew Luckett was they 647 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: had a quarterback and not a whole lot around him. 648 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: Now they have so many good pieces. Objectively, this is 649 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: a pretty good roster. They've got some holes to fill 650 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: that this is a pretty good roster, but they don't 651 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: have the one thing you need. And I wonder how 652 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's mindset has possibly changed after the playoffs, right, 653 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: because they don't have a quarterback you gotta throw in 654 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: this league, they don't have wide receiver weapons. And the 655 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: Rams went out and spend all that money and it 656 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: paid off, and the and the Colts have been the 657 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: opposite of that. I wonder if their approach changes. But 658 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: they're not going anywhere until they figured this quarterback situation out. 659 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: And this year will be Frank Right's fifth see and 660 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: it's his fifth different starting quarterback. That's absurd, Well, that's crazy. 661 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: Another status their ninth and offense in that span with 662 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: five four different quarterbacks. Two of them are good, right 663 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: And ultimately, yeah, it's the list of Tolzine, luck Brissette, Rivers, 664 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: wentz and ultimately they backed themselves in the corner at 665 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: the didn't day Zacht because when you give up first 666 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: and third picks to the Eagles, you inherit wins. You 667 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: inherit his contract. And I want to say, like your 668 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, seven interceptions, you know, going into say Week sixteen, 669 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: they felt like one of the best teams in the 670 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: league to me. And yet there's a decision when the 671 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: owners firing off two am tweets about we need to 672 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: be better and we have to score more points and 673 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: all this stuff. The writing seemed to be on the wall. 674 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, there doesn't seem to be a clear path. 675 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: That's a problem. Then I looked at something you wrote, Um, 676 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: when you look back on uh Chris Ballard what he 677 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: had to say last offseason, and he said, it is 678 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: not an exact science regarding drafting quarterbacks. Every one thinks 679 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: you just take one and you're gonna fix the problem. Look, 680 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: taking one will get you get y'all off my ask 681 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: for a little bit, then journalist media. But the second 682 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: that guy doesn't play well, I'm gonna be the first 683 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: one not run out of the building. So Wentz is 684 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: gonna be kicked out the door. And you don't have 685 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: a first round pick, and the free agent trade market 686 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: is not overly appetizing. Yeah, I don't see how they 687 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: don't take a step back, and and maybe Ballards starting 688 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: to get nervous now because he's like, man, this is 689 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna come back on me if we go seven and 690 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: ten next year. You know what tweets I'm getting. I mean, 691 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting tweets people saying well, let's just take Mike White, 692 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: Let's just take a flyer on that guy, or let's 693 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: start Sam Ellinger. But and I love same Elenger. He's 694 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: a great kid, but like, that's not an NFL starter 695 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: in my opinion, based on what I saw a training camp. 696 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the shame of it is this team is 697 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: ready to win, and I don't know what win necessarily means. 698 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: I think they could compete, certainly for the a f 699 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: C South Crown and maybe make a run in the 700 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: playoffs if they had the right quarterback. But they've been 701 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: in this hamster wheel for five years and I don't 702 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: see it ending this offseason. They might just have to 703 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: eat this season. They might just have to suck it 704 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: up and take their losses and and try to go 705 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: after a better quarterback class next year in the draft, 706 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: a better free agent class next year, and then and 707 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: just see where they're at. But it's frank right here 708 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: next year. It's just about here next year. I can't 709 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: tell you that, but I will tell you this. I 710 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: don't expect this to happen. But if Russell Wilson somehow 711 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: becomes available, Aaron Rodgers somehow becomes available, first, they would 712 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: swing for the defences. In the second absolutely what he 713 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: would do whatever he could, and they've got to get those. 714 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: They've got the cap space to do it, They've got 715 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: the roster to be inviting, and I think they've actually 716 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: got the internal discipline that you wouldn't hear that much 717 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: about him until they actually got them. You know they 718 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise me that they're not in the mix 719 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: when you're hearing these different rumors this offseason, because I 720 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: think they keep it pretty close to the vest, and 721 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: that's to their credit. I think it makes sense when 722 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: you know you don't have the guy, you gotta move on. 723 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: You gotta just keep trying, because I don't think it's 724 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: a step back for whoever they end up with. They'll 725 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: end up with someone, whether it's Dalton or Teddy or 726 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: Rabinsky or whoever it's gonna be, Jimmy g Like, to me, 727 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: they're all in the same bucket. And actually most of 728 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: those guys, to me, are more attractive because they're a 729 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: mediocre that you know who they are week to week. 730 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: And I think Wentz is a mediocre that was in 731 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: a perfect situation with the guy that he knows and 732 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: right that you still don't know he is who he 733 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: is week tweaking. To me, that's not that big of 734 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: a step back. There's actually a lot of sort of borderline. 735 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: QB one two is when I do the QB index 736 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: like that that twenty two thirty five range, those guys 737 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: are available, one of them will step in. They'll kind 738 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: of be the same as Carson Wentz in the end. 739 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: And Frank Reik has shown he can coach up those guys. 740 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: And that's not like the least of my problems. My 741 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: bigger problem with the Cults right now is that they've 742 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: got other issues, Like they've got a ton of free agents. 743 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think they're big issue is because 744 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: their pass rush was not their last year. Uh, They've 745 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: got free agents at wide receiver, they've got two starting 746 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, that are free agents. Where where do you 747 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be focused other than quarterback? Because I 748 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: think that's the sneaky issue with the Cults right now 749 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: is maybe their roster isn't quite as good for two 750 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: right now as people think they that it was. Yeah, 751 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: that's well said, Greg, and I want to get your 752 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: guys thoughts on this. Their roster is good, but are 753 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: they good at the wrong spots? I mean, how valuable 754 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: is it to have a left guard? You're gonna pay 755 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars quite Nelson's awesome, but in a center, 756 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: and and you don't have a good left tackle, and 757 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: Eric Fisher probably comes back with lack of a better 758 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: option at left tackle. It's so hard to fill these positions, 759 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: these premium positions without a first round pick. And they 760 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: haven't had a top ten pick in ten years, and 761 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: this year they won't have a first rounder for the 762 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: third time in four years. And it's really hard to 763 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: address those luxury picks. And they have the same problems 764 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: that they did last year, and that's on Chris Ballard. 765 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: They have a quarterback dilemma the same as they did 766 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: last year. They have glaring needs at wide receiver. They 767 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: have glaring needs at tight end, and they don't have 768 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: a pass rush. And maybe Quiti Peg gets better in 769 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: your two and I think he will. I think he's 770 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: a pretty good in the first round. Yeah, four sacks 771 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: in his last five starts, and I think you start 772 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: to see it. They're really high on Dao to get 773 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: out of Vanderbilt, who came up the A c L 774 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: didn't play much, but has that looked in, that feel 775 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: and and that burst that you want to see from 776 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: a defensive end. So maybe that's fixed. But they have 777 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: holes to fill at the most at the priceiest positions 778 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: in the league, the hardest to fill, and they don't 779 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of draft capital to fill up. It's 780 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: just not gonna be easy. And when you add the 781 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: quarterback headache on top of it, they're just stuck in 782 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: mediocrity right now, right And when you talk about they 783 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: need help at wide receiver, they need help at tight end. 784 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about bringing in We're we're actually 785 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: saying the name Mitchell Trabisky. It's gonna be a long 786 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: autumn and winner with the offense that needs help. And 787 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: when you're gonna say we're so done with Carson Wentz 788 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: maybe at that Jaguars game. It happened back in Week five, 789 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: and then they closed the season out with two wins. 790 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: All this emotion wouldn't be bubbling up. You stick with 791 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz because he wasn't as awful I think as 792 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: some people are thinking. But instead you're to go plug 793 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: in play a new quarterback. It sounds like a disastro 794 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: scenario to me. Well, I'll just say this, I'll say 795 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: this and because and we'll let you go because we 796 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: know you need to teach the professors of tomorrow. Uh 797 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: in mirror minutes. But after the Christmas Night win over Arizona, 798 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: and it was that was the peak of the season, 799 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: and Wentz and has Wentz has that amazing play where 800 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: he keeps a play alive and finds the guy with 801 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: the perfect dart and in the back of the end zone. Um, 802 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: everything goes to hell. You lose the Vegas, you lose 803 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, you go home. I'm just curious what you think, Zach, 804 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: because I know Whens rub some people the wrong way. 805 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: It seems like behind the scenes, perhaps maybe you could 806 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: speak on that. And his play was up and down, 807 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: but did it had was there any way that Wentz 808 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: wasn't coming back or was coming back. If they make 809 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs, say and go one and done. Are they 810 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: in the same position now? If they win a playoff game, 811 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: There's no way they move on, right, Like, did it 812 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: have to play out this way for him to be 813 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: one and done in Indianapolis? You know, I thought that 814 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: was the case, and I thought I remember looking at 815 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 1: Chris baout after Wentz made that play. Remember he played 816 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: terrible in the second third quarters, He's missing high school throws. 817 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: Then he makes three great throws in the last drive, 818 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: hits patent for the for the game, sailing touchdown. Right, 819 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: great moment. They're nine and six, they won a game 820 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: with a lot of guys out there the COVID. They're 821 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: the team nobody wants to play in the playoffs, right, 822 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: and then they ended up being the team that nobody 823 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: did play in the playoffs. My thought was they would 824 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: bring him back and not over react to Jacksonville. Right, 825 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: it was just an awful day. But this move is 826 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: not going to be based solely on football. That's my understanding, 827 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: and I've talked to people in the know. It's just 828 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: not based on how he played on the field. I 829 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: just think the Colts are convinced, the top decision makers 830 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: are convinced that he's not the guy, and they're not 831 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: willing to run it back and just hope for better 832 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: and whether and and that's not going to answer your question, 833 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: Greg about who's who's gonna step in and make them better? 834 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: Mark right, like Travisky or whoever it is. Remember it's 835 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,479 Speaker 1: Jimmy G. But you got to give up draft capital 836 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: get Jimmy G. I think, right, So it's not about 837 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: the next play. It's about the fact that they're just 838 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: not willing to forward with this guy. That's my understanding. 839 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: And by the end of March, we're gonna have an answer. 840 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: All right, Zach, we thank you so much. We're gonna 841 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: be in Indianapolis next week, so I don't know if 842 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: there's any local haunts that you could point us in 843 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: the direction, or maybe we could toss one back. You 844 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: just let us know when we're there. Let's do it. 845 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: Let's not go to Saint Almost because that's appreciate that 846 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: everybody does. I got so many off the beaten path 847 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: spots and you guys will love, so we'll hit we'll 848 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: hit up next week. I try to get some Westling 849 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: brothers to drive in, so it could be it could 850 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: be a home. Maybe some of your students join us. 851 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: If that's a lad, I don't know. I don't know. 852 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 1: You know, Mark always goes down that right, It's always 853 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: It's always been Mark stream to I should just have 854 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: you guys, teach. I should just have you guys. All 855 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: guests speak in my class. My students would love that. 856 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,959 Speaker 1: We're expensive. I got nothing for you. There we go, Zach, 857 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, buddy, and follows Zack on the 858 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: athletic and everything he does over there. You know you 859 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: had to, Greg, you had to. I know what you're doing, right, 860 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to. We're in the middle of 861 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: having a nice conversation with a guest. Yeah, you're doing 862 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: that thing again. And then and I know what's going 863 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: to happen. Mark and I are gonna have to deal 864 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: with it all through the sum happening and into the fall. 865 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna talk yourself into Teddy a solution. And it's 866 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: if he ends up on the cults. For instance, we're 867 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: gonna here in August and into September. Oh, this is 868 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: actually an upgrade. They know what they have Teddy could 869 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: be the answer, No, don't do that. My point with 870 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: with Teddy and Wentz is like I think they're telling 871 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: you what they think of Wentz, and my point is 872 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: there are guys all in that same area that you 873 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: can find, and Teddy's one of them. Teddy actually might 874 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: be too expensive for them. I don't think there's a 875 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: huge difference. I have no appetite for. Point is that's 876 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: two shows in a row where Greg's like, hey, you 877 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: might be able to get Teddy, but he might be 878 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: too expected. My point is, there's not like people get 879 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: so caught up in what's the starting quarterback. Carson Wentz 880 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: isn't like so if you get Tyrod or Jacobe Brissette. 881 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 1: There's really not a difference to me. And I think 882 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: it just takes like a year two of Carson Wentz 883 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: being in that role because he's going to be in 884 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: that role now that everyone's like, oh, that's the wents role. 885 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,439 Speaker 1: They've they're they've got plenty of like mid to low 886 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: level backups that you can put in there, and Frank 887 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: Richell coach him up fine, and it'll be about the 888 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: same as Carson. That's my point. It's not gonna be 889 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: a difference. I wouldn't be worried about like that, And 890 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: it seems like it's behind the scenes that's an issue 891 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: A little bit too is and all that stuff. And 892 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: I think you know, you brought up that they have 893 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: some holes to fill at other positions, and you know 894 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: everybody does basically so, but they they're missing. I counted 895 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: six starters right now are free agents. That's that's that's 896 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: what they have to do, just like every other two. 897 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm not as doom and gloom about the team, but 898 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: I do see the greater issue here is that the 899 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: way things have shaken out, you whiff. Let's face it, 900 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: you whiffed on the Wentz trade, and now you're in 901 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: a position where it's gonna be very hard to actually 902 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: upgrade from Wentz because he wasn't terrible, he was just inconsistent. Um, 903 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: and you're probably gonna be right back in the same 904 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: spot next year where you went about nine games. And 905 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: at what point, if you're the Cults, you say everything 906 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: we're doing is not good enough. We need to reboot 907 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 1: the machine. I mean, you're the GM Chris Ballard, who 908 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, a season ago, I think was viewed as 909 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: one of the better gms in the league and who 910 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: had done a lot to rebuild the cults, and now 911 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: you've got to supply and demand issue at the most 912 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: important position. And I think you've got an issue where 913 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: you've probably got different people in the building wanting different things, 914 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: but the big boss wants Wentz out, and so the 915 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: GM and the coach have to do it. I would 916 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: Ballard wants about it well, but I would love to 917 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: know what Frank wig, because if you're right, you want 918 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 1: to get your like your fifth quarterback in five years, 919 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be I'm sorry that Wentz was. Wentz 920 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: had some terrible games and I'm not a Weentz guy, 921 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: and I never thought it was gonna be a great fit. 922 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 1: But you're gonna go plug in one of these other 923 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: Ham and Eggers that we're gonna have to talk about 924 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: for the next six months. I like it's sometimes with 925 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: with that position. I think how you respond to things 926 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: not going well is a big part of it. But 927 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: you just get the feeling reading between the lines of 928 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: the way that they want someone as a leader to 929 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: respond to tough moments, wasn't there for them, and that 930 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: the aftermath of how those kind the weeks went and 931 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: you heard a lot of this in Philadelphia too, they 932 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: were done with him as well, and you heard a 933 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of it seems to burn people out for whatever. 934 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: You know that you get teammates to believe in him 935 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: and all that sort of thing. And I'll say this, 936 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: if you watch their season closely, there were moments and 937 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: I'll highlight one week in particular was the week before 938 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: that Cardinals game when they hung on to beat the Patriots, 939 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: where went through a bad interception that let the New 940 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: England back into that game, and then the head coach 941 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: was Frank Reich, said no more. I don't even want 942 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: this guy throwing the ball for the rest of the game. 943 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: So I think Reich certainly probably had reservations at the 944 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: very least with Wentz, if not on the same page 945 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: as the owner, who, by the way, some of to 946 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: everyone back to the complex the night of the Jacksonville 947 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: lawsuit the road game, and you could just picture and 948 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: I wish there's a biopic that comes out where he 949 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: goes no more, no more. Carson wasn't just like yelling 950 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: at yeah, it was over. He was done. And I 951 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: I really think that Colts fans, and I'm really surprised, 952 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: and even some of the media there they should they 953 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: should realize that their coach and GM are a great combo, 954 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: a very good combo. Frank Reich is a really good 955 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: offensive head coach, and Ballard has done a really good job. 956 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: And I was surprised when they were struggling early in 957 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: the season. It was like, will Riike and Ballard be back? 958 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: And I'm like, sometimes, I know the results haven't been great, 959 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: but they've been a winning team most of the time. 960 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: I I really think that they are a very good combo. 961 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: And forget about like what's behind door number two of 962 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I would be worried about what's behind door 963 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: number two of coach GM. I like those two guys, 964 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: even if they took a step back, I think you 965 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: stayed well. Versus has got to keep a lid on 966 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 1: it on that front because I'm with you, coach GM. Combo. 967 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,439 Speaker 1: I mean, they've done a lot with a little They've 968 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: been through weight. No one signed up for that job 969 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: knowing you're gonna lose Andrew Luck, that everyone else is 970 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: gonna melt down. You have to deal with five different quarterbacks. 971 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you. Keep them um West was 972 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: known to say this on our show. It was a 973 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi quote that football is the greatest game in 974 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: the world, but has one flaw, that there's a position 975 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: that is so much more important than everything else that 976 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: it it could just throw off the bounds of things, 977 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: like you could have everything set up well, from roster 978 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: to coach to GM, but if you don't have the QB, 979 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck in purgatory. And that's where it 980 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 1: feels like the cults are right. I think he actually 981 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: was referring to interior defender. Ah, it wasn't quarterback. It 982 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: was interior defender, a big sort of a myth that 983 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: stops the run maybe twice a game. It's you, guys, 984 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: how old would you guess? Frank Reich is Actually no, 985 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: I'll figure this out. I'm pretty good at this. Actually, Rich, 986 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say was around twenty eight or twenty nine 987 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: when they had that great comeback in ninety three, and 988 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: now it is thirty. Yeah, he's about sixty. Man, you 989 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: nailed it on the dot. He also has his like 990 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: a much younger Carol category, but yeah, I think yeah right, 991 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, a younger version of Carol. But wow, I 992 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: had no idea that that man would be sixty just vitals, 993 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: formal former pro athlete as a head coach. That's that's 994 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: pretty good. What a start to the flash Point Focus series. 995 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna, you know, it works out 996 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: a new name potentially. Well, that's that goes back to Mark. 997 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: What do we get on social media with this? Anything? 998 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: Any other option? Nothing else grabbed me. I did think 999 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: of one other option, all right, focus figures. Just using 1000 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: the word fin I think we stick with it um 1001 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: out of stubbornness. For some reason. I feel like figures. 1002 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking hidden figures that movie, and it's confusing. 1003 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 1: What if what if it's just riggy? Here it comes 1004 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: flash Point colon player X. Just tighten it a little bit. 1005 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: I kind of like that, or even get rid of 1006 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: the player. It's just flashpoint. But time it's time for 1007 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: flash Point, and then you just get into whatever you 1008 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: back a lightning, flash drop flash dance, which was I 1009 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: think that's it. Mark just revealed his age once again. 1010 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: Who's not heard of that. I'm not saying I watched it. 1011 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: I was. I was too young to watch it when 1012 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: it came out. Jennifer Beale's I believe with the water 1013 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: pulling the chain. I remember that, I remember the person 1014 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: in it. I don't know. Yeah, and what is with 1015 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: you asking our guests to bring co eds out? I didn't. 1016 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 1: I said, like, young journalists who are interested in journalism 1017 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: might want to come along the right, right, if it's college, 1018 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: they could be twenty there, most of probably twenty. Necessarily 1019 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: we stayed Mark on the road. It says much more 1020 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: that you, the both of you, gravitate towards that aspect 1021 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: of it. When I was thinking about you couldn't you 1022 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: could just work with young students. You do not mean? 1023 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: How about that ericon? Did you have the same thought 1024 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: as us? Well? Of course she did. Well first I 1025 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: was like, they're eighteen. But yeah, Greg makes a good 1026 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: point about the legal drinking Angian America. That's why I 1027 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 1: would I would restrict it to grad students or students above. 1028 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: In your son, Luke, I mean, you know we're getting 1029 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: his daughter is Yeah, Well that's the whole different story. 1030 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 1: I could totally see Mark having like setting up like 1031 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: an internship to learn the business under him. All right, 1032 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: that'll be fine, all right, and we have more to 1033 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: get to. Uh flash flashpoint focus flash. But anyway, continue 1034 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: to hit up at Mark Sessler if we because we're 1035 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: gonna bring the series back. We just now got to 1036 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: figure out what who's going to be our our flashpoint 1037 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: focus next week or hit me up with something of 1038 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: of worth. When he said you'd have to give up 1039 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: a pick for Jimmy g I was like, I wonder 1040 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: if they would just like swap problems. Oh that sounds 1041 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: like a solution for no one. Um. Alright, that is 1042 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: it for the Thursday edition of The Round the NFL podcast. 1043 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 1: Reminder the TV shows back with me, Mark Sessler. Greg 1044 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: went off and hit on a vacation day in a 1045 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: big spot, but we'll miss you. Colleen's going to fill it. 1046 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: I got got banged and that's essentially moving. Carson wentz 1047 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: forth this whole week off, but then the podcast to 1048 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: last week off. They never ended up getting either, and 1049 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: we ended up getting I think I'm gonna be it's 1050 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna be an upgrade in my chair. Are you going 1051 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,720 Speaker 1: to You're gonna be up and no doubt in skiing? 1052 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: Are you going to uh not watch the program on 1053 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: Saturday morning at four am. I don't know if the 1054 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: play some stain has NFL network. I suppose I could 1055 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: look for it on Game Pass, but no, definitely not, Ricky, 1056 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 1: Is there anything else we need to get out there? Oh, 1057 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: we're going to Indianapolis on Monday. I was just gonna 1058 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: remind you that getting on a plane headed on Indie. 1059 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a bunch of guests. It's gonna be great. 1060 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. And when I say guess, I 1061 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: mean head coaches, GMS. And we have a new location 1062 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: as I'm as I'm told that is right where all 1063 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: the action is at the indian Indianapolis Convention Center. Shows 1064 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday, and we might we might have so 1065 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: many interviews another one later in the least two. Yeah, 1066 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: you won't get one Monday, but you'll get one Tuesday, 1067 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: as Greg said, Wednesday, and then potentially Friday, Mark might 1068 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: anchor that one solo you'll be getting, not you'll'll you'll 1069 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 1: get about four minutes from me on Friday off my phone. 1070 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: If that's what we're doing. The off season is here 1071 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: or is it all right? We'll be back with the 1072 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: television show on Saturday morning. Set your DVR or don't 1073 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: go to sleep. That's the way they play it. And 1074 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: then we'll be. We'll see if from Indianapolis next week. 1075 00:54:29,880 --> 00:55:00,040 Speaker 1: Till then heed the call s