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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.

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Speaker 2: The feels good to be alive right about now. Addition,

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Speaker 2: as the seven and six Bengals look to boost their

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Speaker 2: playoff chances by beating the Vikings on Saturday at Paycorp Stadium,

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Speaker 2: coming up, I'll talk to Chase brown about running twenty

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Speaker 2: two miles an hour. Chris Rose from the NFL Network

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Speaker 2: shares his thoughts on Jake Browning's remarkable rise, and in

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Speaker 2: this week's No The Fox Conversation, we'll take an in

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Speaker 2: depth look at the Vikings with Kevin Seaffert, who covers

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Speaker 2: the team for ESPN. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals. Now here's a quick remind me that

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Speaker 2: noise in the jungle. The Bengals have home field advantage

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Speaker 2: on Saturday against the team that is about to use

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Speaker 2: its fourth different starting quarterback. After Kirk Cousins tore his

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Speaker 2: achilles in Week eight, rookie Jaren Hall started a game,

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Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs started the next four, and now Nick Mullins

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Speaker 2: is scheduled to be in there against Cincinnati. Additionally, the

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Speaker 2: Vikings starting right tackle Brian O'Neill injured his ankle last week,

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Speaker 2: left the stadium in a walking boot, and didn't practice

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday or Wednesday. With those things in mind, Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor says Bengals fans can play a significant role on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: If the person three seats down from you in the

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Speaker 3: row can't hear you, then you're doing a good job, okay.

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Speaker 3: And so that's essentially what quarterback's dealing with as he's

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Speaker 3: trying to communicate with a tackle make a last second

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Speaker 3: communication to the receiver. If they can't hear him, they

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Speaker 3: can't make that check. And so it's critical in a

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Speaker 3: December game like this with a team coming on the

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Speaker 3: road against us that third downs in particular, that's where

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Speaker 3: that's where you know, the communication is really stressed. But

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Speaker 3: every down, so I do challenge our fans. We got

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Speaker 3: outstanding fans to you know, drink one more drink and

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Speaker 3: rush in the stadium and be as loud as you

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Speaker 3: can humanly possibly be when Minnesota's offense is out there

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Speaker 3: and help our guys. And and that's that is a

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Speaker 3: critical element that we get this home field advantage. We're

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Speaker 3: not playing on the road this week. If we were

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Speaker 3: playing in Minnesota, it would be a real problem. And

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Speaker 3: so Minnesota is here, Let's make a real problem for them.

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Speaker 2: That's a call to action, Bengals fans. Zach Taylor wants

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Speaker 2: you to be loud. I'm sure you'll make him proud.

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Speaker 2: Now time for my first guest. Rookie Chase Brown is

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Speaker 2: given the Bengals offense a turbo boost over the last

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Speaker 2: two weeks. In the Jacksonville game, he had thirty one

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Speaker 2: and fifteen yard runs and in the Colts game, he

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Speaker 2: twenty five yards, and caught this screen pass for his

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Speaker 2: first NFL touchdown. Rookie Chase Brown checks in for the

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Speaker 2: first time at running back after nine carries for sixty

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Speaker 2: one yards last week, they fake it to him. Now

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Speaker 2: they screen it to him, all sorts of running room

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Speaker 2: and balkers in front. He's flying to the thirty the twenty,

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Speaker 3: Half the five touchdown Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown showing his.

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Speaker 1: The field for the Bengals touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I talked to Chase about that play and his rookie

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Speaker 2: year this week. Chase, on your fifty four yard screen

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Speaker 2: pass touchdown last week, you were timed at twenty two

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Speaker 1: Five miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: That's the second fastest time of need ball carrier in

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Speaker 2: You are ahead of the Cheetah Tyreek Hill, who has

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Speaker 5: Well, I always knew I could run, but there's an

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Speaker 2: I tried an experiment this week. I set the cruise

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Speaker 2: Is it God given for the product of hard work.

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Speaker 5: My mom was a great athlete and my dad's a

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Speaker 2: We're chatting to Chase Brown. In the last two games,

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Speaker 2: Joe Mixon has combined for two hundred and forty two

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Speaker 2: kind of the classic thunder and lightning backfield. Do you

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Speaker 5: I definitely feed off his energy, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: After the game, you climbed into the stands to celebrate

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Speaker 5: Those are those are my high school coaches from Canada,

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Speaker 5: extremely grateful for the group of guys, especially making a

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Speaker 2: We're chatting to Chase Brown. The coaches made it pretty

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Speaker 2: that you were going to start getting more opportunities, and

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Speaker 2: then you hurt your hand. I'm string at practice where

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Speaker 5: You know, I have a a positive mindset, so you know,

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Speaker 5: I knew that there's opportunity there. But you know, injury

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Speaker 2: An NFL player's rookie year is a roller coaster ride.

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Speaker 2: You are going through it with your twin brother, Sydney,

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Speaker 2: who is playing for the Philadelphia Eagles. How much have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we just talk. It makes the process

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Speaker 5: talking about the goods and the bads and ups and

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Speaker 5: the downs, and you know, that's always that always helps.

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Speaker 5: It's like a little therapy session any time I get

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning is not a rookie, but he's getting his

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Speaker 2: first opportunity at roughly the same time as you are.

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Speaker 2: What has he shown you over the past few weeks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's a great leader, number one, But.

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Speaker 4: Dudes, dialed in.

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Speaker 5: He's playing really good football right now, and I mean

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Speaker 5: him just being him as you know, helping us win

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Speaker 5: And you know, I'm sure he learned a lot from

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Speaker 5: he's just ready to show who he is and make

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Speaker 2: You had an extremely heavy workload last year at Illinois

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Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty eight attempts. That's roughly twenty seven

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Speaker 2: You got nineteen so far this year. How fresh do

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Speaker 2: you feel as a result.

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Speaker 5: Pretty fresh, A lot more fresh than I did during

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Speaker 5: the Illinois season. But you know, I kind of I

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Speaker 5: took pride in them giving the ball seven times a game.

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Speaker 5: They trusted me to make plays and get the ball

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Speaker 5: in the end zone. So that's that was my job

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Speaker 5: back then. Right now, it's just a little bit different.

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Speaker 5: I'm a role player. I'm gonna do my role to

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Speaker 2: You've given the offense a huge jolt over the past

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. It's been fun to watch. Best of

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Speaker 2: luck this week and going forward.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to that GPS measurement of twenty two

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Speaker 2: point zero five miles an hour, the second fastest for

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Speaker 2: any ball carrier in the NFL this year. Jamar Chase

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Speaker 2: is eleventh on the list. He hit twenty one point

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Speaker 2: five four miles an hour when he caught a sixty

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Speaker 2: three yard touchdown bomb from Joe Burrow in Arizona. And

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Speaker 2: remember a couple of years ago against Kansas City, when

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Speaker 2: Jamar caught a short pass and then ran away from

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Speaker 2: about seven guys on a seventy two yard touchdown. He

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Speaker 2: that one. In other words, not quite measuring up to

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown's numb. Here's Jamar's reaction.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm slow man.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever crossed seen your numbers? I'm slow right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not lie.

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Speaker 2: I just looked up the GPS from the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: one Kansas City catch. It was twenty one point seven.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, what he twenty one point eight? He was

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Speaker 1: twenty two five?

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Speaker 4: Oh damn, I'm slow, slow man, I'm slow.

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Speaker 2: On the Kansas City play, you kind of had to start,

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Speaker 2: you know, from a standing position almost, so it's harder

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Speaker 2: to get up to twenty two.

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Speaker 1: He was already moving when he caught the ball.

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Speaker 4: You said I was twenty one?

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Speaker 2: Was the other twenty one point seven and the other

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. This year against Arizona, twenty one point five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm slow, broke. You gotta love Jabbar. Chase.

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Speaker 2: By the way, he needs twenty three catches in the

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Speaker 2: final four games of the year to break TJ. Hushman's

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Speaker 2: out of his team record of one hundred and twelve

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Speaker 2: on the NFL Network, and I caught up with one

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Speaker 2: of the broadcasters on Wednesday. He is the host of

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Speaker 2: NFL Game Day Highlights every Sunday on the NFL Network,

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Speaker 2: and this Saturday he will do play by play of

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Speaker 2: the Bengals Vikings game.

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Speaker 1: It is great to visit with Chris Rose.

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Speaker 2: Chris, we are always interested in getting the national perspective

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Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Bengals. Have you been wowed by what

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning has done over the past couple of weeks?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, Dan, I don't think there's a question about it.

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Speaker 7: We were all watching that Ravens Bengals game and when

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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow couldn't throw the ball on the sidelines, we

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Speaker 7: were like, Okay, we'll see the Bengals in twenty twenty four. Well,

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure as you have prepped to do play

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Speaker 7: just seems like every time they're trotting out a rookie

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Speaker 4: But he just looked so much faster than everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Chris, you went to Miami University worked at Fox nineteen

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Speaker 7: They were struggling, and I was struggling as I was

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Speaker 7: And I was like, oh my god, So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: We're chatting with Chris Rose.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the job that Duke Tobin

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Speaker 4: Great? That's great.

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Speaker 7: Now listen, did they did they end up in a

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the muddled pack of teams at seven and

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Speaker 7: Don't Here's what I would I would advise all Bengals

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Speaker 7: Just go back to Monday night for the proof. Right,

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Speaker 7: We'll deal with this Saturday, whatever happens on Sunday, and

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Speaker 7: I think you have a really good shot this weekend.

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Speaker 2: If you figure out the tiebreakers by Saturday, please let

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Speaker 2: you'll be calling Bengals Vikings this week. Like the Bengals,

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Speaker 7: He's got a decent arm, but he'll throw it to you.

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Speaker 2: So with those things in mind, give us a couple

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Speaker 7: Well last week I talked to a good friend of

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Speaker 2: Chris, this has been fun. Look forward to having you

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your.

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Speaker 7: Time, absolutely and day if you need it. I've got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in three words or less. It shouldn't be probab

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Speaker 4: that'd be perfect. Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: I'm still not sure that I have a total grasp

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Speaker 2: of the playoff tiebreakers, but I know this thanks to

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Speaker 2: my pal Jay Morrison, who covers the Bengals for Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Network. There are three NFL games on Saturday. If

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Speaker 2: the Bengals beat the Vikings, the Colts beat the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: and the Lions beat the Broncos, and those are the

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Speaker 2: teams that are favored to win, the Bengals would jump

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Speaker 2: to the number six playoff seed in the AFC, and

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Speaker 2: nothing that happens on Sunday would change that. Finally, it's

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Speaker 2: time for this week's Know the Faux segment. The Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Vikings were four and four when Kirk Cousins tore his achilles,

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Speaker 2: and they're three and two since, including that three nothing

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Speaker 2: win over the Raiders last week that was scoreless with

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Speaker 2: two minutes to go. Kevin Seaffert covers the Vikings for ESPN.

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Speaker 2: He joined Dave Lapham and me on the Bengals Game

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Speaker 2: Plan Show this week and explained how the Vikings have

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Speaker 2: managed to stay in playoff contention without their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Really their defense.

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Speaker 8: Brian Flores has come in this season his first year

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Speaker 8: of the defensive coordinator and has really engineered a one

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Speaker 8: hundred and eighty degree turn in the way they play defense.

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Speaker 8: From last season when they were a very passive, you know,

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Speaker 8: too deep type, look to this year where they have

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Speaker 8: essentially with the same players, become this like wild blitzing,

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Speaker 8: mixing coverages, mixing positions, essentially using.

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Speaker 6: Players at multiple positions at any given time.

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Speaker 8: And really since the start, since about the third or

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Speaker 8: the fourth week of the season, they've been a top

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Speaker 8: five defense across the board. And so that's what you

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Speaker 8: need when you lose your starting quarterback, and not only

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Speaker 8: is your starting quarterback, but you lose your number two

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Speaker 8: and your number.

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Speaker 6: Three as well.

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Speaker 8: And Josh Dobbs when he was playing for the Vikings

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Speaker 8: was really their fourth and so usually those situations lead

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Speaker 8: to a disaster. And one of the reasons the Vikings,

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Speaker 8: the biggest reason that hasn't been a disaster for them

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Speaker 8: has been their defense.

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Speaker 9: What is it about the Vikings with close football games?

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Speaker 9: When they win eleven by one score or less? You

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Speaker 9: know last year that was a record, I think. And

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Speaker 9: then they've only had one game the entire season that's

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Speaker 9: been decided by fourteen points some more against at Green Bay.

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Speaker 9: Every other game there was one by eight, but that's

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Speaker 9: one score the only two point conversion. Eight points are less.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the six games they've lost by a total

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Speaker 9: of twenty three points. The games they've won has been

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Speaker 9: a whole lot different. It's unbelievable how every single game

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Speaker 9: unfolds to be like a one score game or less?

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Speaker 9: What is it?

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Speaker 8: And it's not great for the blood pressure of beat

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Speaker 8: riders on dead that. But they have played thirty games

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Speaker 8: since the start of when Kevin O'Connell became the coach.

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Speaker 8: Last year, twenty three of them have been decided by

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Speaker 8: one score games, so that, as you said, they are

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Speaker 8: eleven and zero last year. This year there's six and

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Speaker 8: six in the twelve games that have been one score and.

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Speaker 6: Then obviously the Packers game that you mentioned.

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Speaker 8: And so I'm kind of out of explanations. I don't

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Speaker 8: think there's like a through line through all of these things.

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Speaker 8: I think last year especially, they were really good playing

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Speaker 8: fourth quarter situational football and so and they were they

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Speaker 8: able to pull out a lot of games at the

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Speaker 8: very end, either through game winning drives with Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: or their defense maybe making an interception here and there.

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Speaker 8: This year, it's been a little bit all over the map,

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Speaker 8: and I think it's just kind of an extreme example

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Speaker 8: of what we see across the league. I mean, my

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Speaker 8: theory on the NFL is that every year there's a

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Speaker 8: handful of really good teams, maybe three to five, a

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Speaker 8: handful of really bad teams another three and five, and

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Speaker 8: everybody else is in that middle, and vast majority.

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Speaker 6: Is in that middle. And so they're kind of an

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Speaker 6: extreme example.

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Speaker 8: Of that, where they're not good enough to just, you know,

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Speaker 8: especially this year, just reel off wins every time they're

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Speaker 8: in these close games, but they are good enough to

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Speaker 8: rarely get.

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Speaker 6: Blown out either. And so maybe it's just kind of.

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Speaker 8: A little bit of a microcosm of the larger, you know,

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Speaker 8: relative lack of disparity that we.

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Speaker 6: See in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: That they find themselves in every game playing with an

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Speaker 8: opponent not necessarily being better, but sometimes this year sometimes

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Speaker 8: coming out ahead sometimes this year being behind, but I'm

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Speaker 8: always very close and I expect more of that to

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Speaker 8: come this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Sefford covers the vikings for ESPN I do University

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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati football game. So I can honestly say I

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Speaker 2: am not surprised that Ivan Pace is having success at

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Speaker 2: the NFL level. What stands out to you about his

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Speaker 2: play as a rookie from Minnesota just you.

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Speaker 6: Know, just so energetic.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he from the from the beginning of train camp,

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Speaker 8: he was just making splash plays.

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Speaker 6: He would just you would just see.

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Speaker 8: Him running sideline the sideline in at a at a

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Speaker 8: rate that most of the guys weren't, especially when he

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Speaker 8: was working on that second and third team, Uh, those second.

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Speaker 6: And thirteen groups.

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Speaker 8: And then you never but you never know when you're

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Speaker 8: watching training camp what that means.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it's just.

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Speaker 8: A guy that's really it hustles a lot, but the

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Speaker 8: coaches don't see, you know, potential to actually be a

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Speaker 8: contributor at the first team. And then all of a

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Speaker 8: sudden he started, uh, you know, they'd have an inner

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Speaker 8: squad scrimmage and he's working with the first team and

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Speaker 8: the guy that they had penciled in to be the

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Speaker 8: starters of the second team, and you think, oh, well,

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Speaker 8: maybe they're just seeing what he can do, and then

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Speaker 8: it just never stopped. They just he just kept showing

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Speaker 8: up and whenever they would line up with their first team,

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Speaker 8: he would be there.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 8: Brian Forlores's defense, I think has one of the things

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Speaker 8: that's been really good is that he has found ways

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Speaker 8: to maximize the skills of each guy, and so in

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Speaker 8: some cases that means they play ten snaps one week

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Speaker 8: and the next week they play fifty snaps. And so

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Speaker 8: that's where Ivan was at least early in the year,

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Speaker 8: like a lot of his playing time was based on

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Speaker 8: what Flores and the defensive staff thought was best for

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Speaker 8: that particular week. But then I think it was three

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Speaker 8: weeks ago Jordan Hicks, their veteran middle linebacker, had a

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Speaker 8: really serious leg injury, and so they had no choice

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Speaker 8: but to put Ivan out there every play and put

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Speaker 8: the green dot on his helmet and say, hey, be

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Speaker 8: the captain of our middle defense. And he's really just

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Speaker 8: taken the bull by the horns. And I think that

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Speaker 8: the game he had last week in Vegas, where he

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Speaker 8: had thirteen tackles in a sack and the game clinching

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Speaker 8: interception was definitely his best of the year and probably

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Speaker 8: a springboard of things to come.

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Speaker 9: The Vikings has scored twenty six points in the first

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Speaker 9: quarter in thirteen football games, two points per game. Why

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Speaker 9: the slow starts, do you think?

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Speaker 8: Well, early in the year they were on this crazy

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Speaker 8: run of not only not scoring but turning the ball over.

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Speaker 8: I think they had first half of the season. I

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Speaker 8: think it was four games where they turned the ball

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Speaker 8: opening over on the opening possession, and so they were

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Speaker 8: just coming out and maybe it was too you know,

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Speaker 8: overthinking their script a little bit. Maybe it was trying

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Speaker 8: to be too fine or too aggressive in what they

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Speaker 8: were projecting opponents to do.

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Speaker 6: But they were just really rough in.

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Speaker 8: The in the especially on those opening drives, and that's

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Speaker 8: where you see a lot of teams really excel as

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Speaker 8: if you have the whole week to play in your

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Speaker 8: opening script and if nothing is gonna work the whole day,

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Speaker 8: but that but that, but you know that one one

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Speaker 8: drive will And so it was really wild and they

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Speaker 8: went they just kind of, I think, try to simplify

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Speaker 8: things a little bit, uh decided who they thought was,

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Speaker 8: you know, should have the ball in their hands more often,

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Speaker 8: and and and some other guys maybe a little less often,

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Speaker 8: and got that straightened out. And so I think that

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Speaker 8: the average you cited was probably broad down significantly by

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Speaker 8: that run they had in the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 6: So they've been a little bit better better.

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Speaker 8: But in the past two weeks, both the Raiders and

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Speaker 8: the Bears got the opening kickoff and ended up on

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Speaker 8: these long, time consuming, not a slight productive, but time

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Speaker 8: consuming drives.

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Speaker 6: And the Vikings didn'tn't.

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Speaker 8: Really have many plays in the first quarter of those

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Speaker 8: two games either, and so it's been a combination of factors.

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Speaker 8: But now they've I think, have gotten their turnover situation

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Speaker 8: under control. They're a little bit more effective now in

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Speaker 8: the first quarters.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, My final question has to do with Nick Mullins,

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Speaker 2: who will be the starting quarterback this week. Fourth starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback of the year for the Vikings, first time in

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Speaker 2: franchise history. Apparently they've started four in one season. Was

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Speaker 2: this building or was this just the result of him

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Speaker 2: having a good fourth quarter last week and the three

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Speaker 2: nothing win in Vegas?

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Speaker 6: Well, it was a common factors.

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Speaker 8: Nick Mullens started the year at the Vikings number two

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Speaker 8: quarterback and he and then he had a back injury

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Speaker 8: that happened in practice and he went on injury reserve,

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Speaker 8: And if that injury had not happened, he would have

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Speaker 8: been the person who came in to replace Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: when Cousins suffered the Achilles injury, but he wasn't available,

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Speaker 8: so they went with a number three quarterback who got

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Speaker 8: Jared Hollow at a concussion, and then finally to Josh Jobbs.

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Speaker 8: And I think there was a belief all along that

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Speaker 8: they would eventually work their way back to Mullens. But

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Speaker 8: Dobbs had these great couple of games just to start

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Speaker 8: off and build himself up some equity, but over time

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Speaker 8: he started to have some struggles with turnovers and just

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Speaker 8: really getting down the complicated nature of this offense. So

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Speaker 8: maybe it had been building behind the scenes a little bit,

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Speaker 8: but they you know, he came in against Vegas.

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Speaker 6: And led the only scoring drive they had in the

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Speaker 6: whole game.

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Speaker 8: And so at this point, I don't know that Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 8: the head coach, had much of a choice but to

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Speaker 8: turn to Nick.

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Speaker 6: But he also, like I you know this, he had

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Speaker 6: a very cutting quote.

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Speaker 8: Where he said, this is a week to week offense,

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Speaker 8: We're going to decide every week what we're doing and

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Speaker 8: who the people out there are going to be.

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Speaker 6: That's doing it. And so I don't know that I

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Speaker 6: feel confident that Nick.

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Speaker 8: Mallins has started for the rest of the year, but

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Speaker 8: he's definitely going to be the starter this weekend.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for giving us all the time you've given us.

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Speaker 9: My final question involves the tight end position. How good

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Speaker 9: is Hawkinson been? The Bengals have given up more receptions

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Speaker 9: and more receiving yards than any defense in the National

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Speaker 9: Football League. In Hawkinson eighty five catches over eight hundred yards,

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Speaker 9: five touchdowns receiving. How good is this dude?

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Speaker 8: Well, he's really become the security blanket for all the

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Speaker 8: Vikings quarterbacks, and for reasons that we haven't even talked

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Speaker 8: about yet, but justin Jefferson missed seven seven games with

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Speaker 8: a hamstring injury, most of last week with the after

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Speaker 8: he got hit in the back there and suffered a

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Speaker 8: chest injury. So Hokinson has sort of been the first

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Speaker 8: choice of every quarterback that's played for the Vikings this

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Speaker 8: year during the Jefferson time away, and so that's really

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Speaker 8: where Hockinson has made a lot of his Hey, he

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Speaker 8: has not been a great like downfield receiver per se

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Speaker 8: or a run after the catch guy, but in terms

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Speaker 8: of someone who knows how to find the little scene

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Speaker 8: in the in the zone and pulling a seven yard

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Speaker 8: catch on first and ten or a five yard catch

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Speaker 8: on third and three.

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Speaker 6: He's been outstanding at that.

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Speaker 8: I think he has more catches or remember he's now

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Speaker 8: ranked number two in the NFL amongst all tight ends.

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Speaker 8: And so he's been very durable and very available and

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Speaker 8: very much a security blanket for all of those guys.

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Speaker 6: And so we'll see.

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Speaker 8: How that, you know, how that plays out now that

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Speaker 8: we expect Jefferson to be on the field for most

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Speaker 8: of this game most is not all of this game Saturday,

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Speaker 8: but he's always going to be there and he's always

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Speaker 8: going to be a guy that those quarterbacks know can

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Speaker 8: be a reliable gainer of yards.

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Speaker 9: And you're right, he's number one in tight end receptions

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Speaker 9: with eighty five and number one in tight end receptions

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Speaker 9: on third down with twenty five. So he's been a.

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Speaker 8: Beast, absolutely, And they traded for him last year from Detroit,

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Speaker 8: gave up a second round pick, and then sign him

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Speaker 8: to a huge contract extension, so he's a premium player

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Speaker 8: at a premium value and they're getting their money's worth

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Speaker 8: out of them This year.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals are currently a three point favorite this week.

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