1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks DJ, Bucky back with you 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: as we continue to kind of recap what we saw 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: in Indie as well as handle some other business. Buck, 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: what's going on, man, No. 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Not too much. 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's exactly what you're talking about. As we're 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: nearing free agency frenzy. You're trying to kind of put 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: together like how things teams are thinking when it comes 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: to weigh West available in free agency versus West available 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: in the draft and now should help us kind of 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: crystallize what is gonna take place, particularly when we started 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: doing these mock drafts. 15 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt were. Later on this episode we will 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: do the AFC South, which I think finishes up the 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: AFC for all the building blocks, you know, kind of 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: looking at the key players for them to build with 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: going forward. 20 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: So that'll wrap up the AFC. 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Next week, I believe on our Monday episode we're just 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: gonna jet through the whole NFC, so the building blocks 23 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: for all the NFC teams. Wanted to get that done 24 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: as a free agency launches, just kind of so we 25 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: can have a clear before and after picture after free 26 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: agency to see what kind of changes got made there. 27 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that next week. We're 28 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: going to go through the defense today what we saw 29 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: at the combine. But you led me somewhere where I 30 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: wanted to go because you talked about marrying the draft 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: and free agency, and I was talking to somebody. We're 32 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: talking all the positions, and you know, within a personnel executive, 33 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about the running backs, and he's like, look, 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: I always you know, he kind of was with us 35 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: in terms of like I want young backs, like you 36 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: don't want veteran packs. But he said, this year is 37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: such a unique year. He was like, there's five He said, 38 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: I might go through five veterans free agents this year 39 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: before I would get to the first draftable running back. Like, like, 40 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: free agency in the running back class is actually pretty 41 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: loaded of guys if you can get them on like 42 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: two year neils. You know, Josh Jacobs, you know Derrick 43 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Henry on a two year deal. You know, I think 44 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: that like Antonio Gibson, You've got Pollard. There's a ton 45 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: of them. So he was like, the free agency is 46 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: a better way to go this year than drafting these 47 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: running backs, they're better football players. I thought that was 48 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. 49 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: The conversation actually makes sense DJ when you look at 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: the veterans that are on the market, take on Barkley, 51 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard. They're really good running backs that 52 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: have been feature backs in this league, but they're not 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: quite too old that you can't envision them being a 54 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: feature back for another year or two. And because there's 55 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: so many guys that are hitting the market at the 56 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 3: same time, I don't think you really have to worry 57 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: about the costs kind of rising up if anything is 58 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: going to depress the value of the running backs on 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: the market, because you can bid against Hey, if you 60 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: don't take it, I'm giving this money to the first 61 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: guy that says yes, and so you can wait. But 62 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: we know the money's not going to go up for 63 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: the veteran running back. To me, it's kind of a 64 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: win win for teams. You get a really good player 65 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: and then you can draft a player at a later 66 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: round and really take care of the position without really 67 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: kind of messing up your pocketbook. 68 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels this is like a you know, veteran 69 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: running backs once you get to the second contract. To me, 70 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: I think you just go in two years at a time. 71 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, hey, sign you up for two years, and 72 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: we'll just keep going these little one and two year deals. 73 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to go beyond that because when you 74 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: fall off, it happens fast, and I don't want to 75 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: be stuck holding the bag here. So two years to 76 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: me is reasonable, and I think that's what those teams should, 77 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: those players and those teams should be trying to get done. 78 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: And look, you dress it up, you can dress it 79 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: up as a four or five year deal, but there's 80 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: going to be an out after year two, would be 81 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: my guest with a lot of these veteran running backs. 82 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: But I think it's again is another example of how 83 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: you got to stack your board and understand what free 84 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: agency looks like, and then what the draft looks like 85 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: in forms you know the direction you go in free agency. 86 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: So I think that's just something to keep an eye 87 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: on here with these running backs. Any other any other 88 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: connections you think from this draft class? Free agency? 89 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, I think free agency at wide receiver. 90 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: I think when you look at the market, like now 91 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: that we've seen the franchise tech applied and we see 92 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: that Michael Pittman is no longer on the market. Mike 93 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: Evan and signed the deal. Look, teams are going to 94 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: look at Calvin Ridleys at the top of the board. 95 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: Gabe Davis is one of the guys that to be 96 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: up there. And now the decision that you're weighing is 97 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: do I want to pay the veteran over twenty million 98 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: dollars or do I want to roll the dice on 99 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: overge draft pick. And that is going to have some 100 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: sway in terms of how much money these veterans get. 101 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, I absolutely believe that when we're doing the 102 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: juggling act between free agency and the draft, because there's 103 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: so many really good wide receivers in this class, I 104 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: think you will see the free agent value kind of 105 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: shrink for some of the wide receivers that we're expecting 106 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: to get like a hefty pay day. I don't know 107 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: if those paydays are going to be out there, and 108 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people will say, yeah, we'll 109 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: bypass that to go back and see if. 110 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: We can develop a young quarterback. 111 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: And I think we will see more teams opt to 112 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: kind of cycle through young wide receivers in the next 113 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: few years because now the prospect of paying a wide 114 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: receiver thirty million dollars quarterback money is going to teams 115 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: to say that we can save some of this money 116 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: for some of these other marquee positions, because right now, 117 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: the one thing we know every year college is producing 118 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: a ton of pass catches that can play right away. 119 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know T Higgins another one, right 120 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: he got tagged real early on in the process. So 121 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: I think on the whiteouts you talked about the cost, 122 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I think it makes sense. Two things. Number one, Okay, 123 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna resign my own guys. You know you're 124 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: gonna pay a lot of money. I'm gonna do it 125 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: on everything I know about a guy, right so I'm 126 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: taking I'm not gonna take a twenty two to twenty 127 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: four million dollar risk with a free agent from another 128 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: team and wonder how he learns my system and how 129 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: he fits in with my quarterback. But if I've got 130 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Pittman, or I've got T Higgins, you 131 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: know I'm going Okay, I know what he is, I 132 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: know how my quarterback feels about him. Like I'd be 133 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: more comfortable scratching that check versus going out and paying 134 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: big money to a free agent to come in when 135 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: I could just draft a guy like I. To me, 136 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: if you're going to get a guy that's unknown, so 137 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: to speak, within your building, I think I would rather 138 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: roll the dice and take one in the second round. 139 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: There's going to be a ton of good players here. 140 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: It costs you nothing versus going out and spend a 141 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: top top dollar on somebody else's player that you're not 142 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: familiar with. 143 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: Buck. It makes total sense to me, DJ. 144 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense to look at it, 145 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: and a lot of it depends on how comfortable are 146 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: you with developing young receivers. 147 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: Do you have a wide receiver coach? 148 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 3: Do you have a system that is easy to digest 149 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: for young players to kind of have success right away 150 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: if you feel good about those factors, Yeah, the young 151 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: receivers the way to go because you talk about it. 152 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: I mean, just look at what the Green Bay Packers 153 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: have been able to do with all their young chief receivers. 154 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of money allocated to the 155 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: wide receiver room. They now can write a big, big 156 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: check to Jordan Love and not have to worry about it, 157 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: kind of tipping the skills on their team when it 158 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: comes to how they allocate the rest of the cash 159 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: for the defense and those things. At some point they're 160 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: gonna have to pay one of those receivers, you know, 161 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: maybe two. But right now, for the next three years, 162 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: they got a bunch of young, cheap playmakers that are 163 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: going to be able to get it done, and it 164 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: allows you a lot of flexibility to build up other 165 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: parts of your team. 166 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: Are you as surprised as I was with the Christian 167 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: Wilkins news, Like, I know that they're over the cap, 168 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: and I know they have to do some roster management. 169 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: I know they have to pay Tua, I get all 170 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: those things, but like, what's harder to find than a 171 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: defensive tackle that can rush the quarterback and it is 172 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: a dominant player. Like, to me, that's one of the 173 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: hardest things to find. 174 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: I was shocked. 175 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I talked to a GM last week. We're talking about 176 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: the free agent market, and he's like, yeah, you know, 177 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: we were hopeful that maybe one of these DT's would get, 178 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, get to the market. Now Chris Jones hasn't 179 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, hasn't been tagged. Technically he could get to 180 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: the market, but all the expectation is that the Chiefs 181 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: are going to clear the decks in order so they 182 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: can get that deal done before we get the free agency. 183 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: But the Christian Wilkins thing shocked me. Man, and I 184 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: think the market for him he is going to break 185 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: the bank because so many teams have money and it's 186 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: hard to find one of those. 187 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: Now, the thing that is the thing that surprises me 188 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: about him hitting the market, No, it's not the thing 189 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: that's surprising. But if I'm a team, like, the only 190 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: thing I would I would have to put a phone 191 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: call in, like why are they letting him out? What 192 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: is it that we don't know? You know, like what 193 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: is the surprise at the bottom of the cracker jack 194 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: box here? We gonna get that is going to get it, 195 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: because otherwise it doesn't make sense based on his performance 196 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: between the lines. It doesn't make sense that you would 197 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: let a guy who has played at a high level 198 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: inside as an inside pass rusher get on the market. 199 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: I would have to put in a phone call just 200 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: to see is there something behind the scenes that we 201 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: don't know, because it certainly doesn't make sense for a young, athletic, 202 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: productive playmaker like him to hit the market. 203 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't understand it. So I know one thing, 204 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: he is going to get paid handsomely out there on 205 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: the free market. Let's go through the combine here, Buck, 206 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: different positions, guys stood out. Let's start the corner position. 207 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Where look Quenya Mitchell. I just updated my top fifty 208 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: list that should be out tomorrow, moved him up a 209 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: few spots. He's my thirteenth overall player out of Toledo. 210 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: But you can make a case I still have Terry 211 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: Arnold is my number one corner. He's number two for me. 212 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: I have no fault with anybody who says after quenyaon Mitchell, 213 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: watching him at the Senior Bowl, watching him work out, 214 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: he ran four to three three at one hundred and 215 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: ninety five pounds, Buck, I mean, I have no problem 216 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: with somebody saying he's a top corner the draft. 217 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: I could. 218 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't fight you on that. 219 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: Look. 220 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: It's hard to dispute it. When you go back and 221 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: you look at the way that he played it Toledo. 222 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: You look at a consistent production and performance that he 223 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: just played during his time there. You watch how he 224 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: competed at a high level at the Senior Bowl. He 225 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: eliminated any doubts you had you were any doubts that 226 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: you were concerned about when it came to his level 227 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: of competition and how you are fair against the best 228 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: of the best. He took that away. He then goes 229 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: to the combine knocks it out the box with the 230 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: testing heightweight, speed, check check check check. You didn't see 231 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: the movement, skills and all the other stuff. There's not 232 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: a lot that you can poke holes at. 233 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: Now. 234 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: It's just a matter are you willing to pull the trigger? 235 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: Are you willing to pull the trigger on a guy 236 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: from to when we are so I would say obsessed 237 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: or we really focus on brand names. I mean, look, 238 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: he he's about as good as they come at corner. 239 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: We've seen it in a bunch of different ways, and 240 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: so yeah, I can understand why you would be compelled 241 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: to put him at the top of the chart. 242 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he had he had a phenomenal workout. Look, 243 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins ran four to eight, but it was one 244 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three pounds. Man. So it's like, as 245 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: excited as you get about the four to eight, which 246 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: we all knew he was going to fly, one hundred 247 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: and seventy three pounds was bizarre, right, you know? He 248 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: was supposed to be one eighty five, one eighty eight. 249 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: He shows up at one seventy three, which was which 250 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: was a little bit odd there. 251 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes sometimes think on that I was. 252 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: I was like sometimes like if he's leaning into the 253 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: track background a lot of times what you do is 254 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: you a cut weight so you can run fast? 255 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: Right, you're lighter and you're faster. 256 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: I think the bigger thing, And this is why it's 257 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: important for scouts on school calls. Remember how we used 258 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: to go to the strength coach and just add, hey, 259 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: what's a good weight on him? Because I want to 260 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: know what's what's his regular season weight? Because then I 261 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: would be able to have an understanding of, Hey, did 262 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 3: he cut weight to run fast or is this what 263 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: he always has been and this is where he's going 264 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: kind of when he shows up to mini camp, he's 265 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: gonna be one hundred and seventy five pounds because what 266 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: happened to him at the workout is what your fearful 267 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: love happening to him. 268 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the league, he's not gonna be able to finish. 269 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: He's gonna be heard. 270 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: So I would give him a check for running fast, 271 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: But then the questions would be Is it gonna be 272 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: a concern going forward with his durability and his toughness 273 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: when it comes to tackling. 274 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: M hm, yeah, no, that was that was kind of 275 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: the concern. That was the question mark on him. I'll 276 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: give you a couple other ones here. I'll just go 277 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: through a list of a few guys I thought were interesting. 278 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned this a second ago. Rey Straw ran four 279 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: five one, one hundred and eighty three pounds, which he 280 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: was a little bit bigger, which she was a little 281 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: bit faster. But the tape is really good. I still 282 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: think he's kind of late one, maybe early two in 283 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: that range. Kamari lastyear didn't run the forty, but had 284 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: a phenomenal field workout. A couple other guys that I 285 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: want to highlight here, Max Melton from Rutgers is kind 286 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: of acing every test. Buck ran four three nine. He 287 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: can play inside, can play outside. Another one to me 288 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: that really helped himself Mikey Sammers still from Michigan, who 289 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: the question was the size of speed one hundred and 290 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: eighty two pounds at five zho ninety three but ran 291 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: four four seven. I think it was big for him 292 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: to get in the four fource. 293 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, really big for him. 294 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 3: Those two last guys that you talked about. The Rutgers kid. 295 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: What you like about him is you talk about checking 296 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: the boxes along the process. Also, like the fact that 297 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: he was coached by Greg Ciano. We can say a 298 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: lot of things about Greg Ciano. Greg Ciano coach DB's 299 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: at the NFL level, so he knows how to develop 300 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: defensive backs. We've seen a number of Rutgers players come 301 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: into this league and have success, So I feel really 302 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: good about what he's been able. 303 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: To put on display. 304 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: And I would you know, you talk about standing on 305 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: the table form, I'll standing on table form when it 306 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: comes to Santa Silt. 307 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: You talk about. 308 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: Small in terms of five to nine, but the speed 309 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: is everything, because man, if he was small and then 310 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: he had a four or five time, it just makes 311 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: it hard to sell in the building. But because he's 312 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: a true nickel corner, because we have on like game tape, 313 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: the way they were able to utilize him in a 314 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: variet different ways and how I mean, I think you 315 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: can make the argument that he might have been the 316 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: leader in the back end in terms of like how 317 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: he got it done when they needed to make place 318 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: all that other stuff. Yeah, I feel great about those 319 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: two guys, and part of the process when it comes 320 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 3: to the combine is being able to just continue to 321 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: check the boxes and make sure that what I saw 322 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: on tape is believable. 323 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: With each of. 324 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: Those guys and some of the other ones that you've mentioned, 325 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: you feel great about the overall evaluation because the consistency 326 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: has been there when it comes to their performance and 327 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: their athletic potential and trades. 328 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: So production six picks for Samer still, leadership, all the 329 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: stuff you hear is off the charts. This one was 330 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: interesting me. Eighteen Michigan players there, right, So I talked 331 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: to a team that asked every Michigan player who was 332 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: the leader of the team, and he said it wasn't unanimous, 333 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: but it was close to unanimous that it was Mikey Samers. 334 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: Still like offense, defense didn't matter. They all pointed to him. 335 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you add that stuff up together and 336 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: it's like, I know he's a little bit small, I 337 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: know where he plays. I've seen him play in that role. 338 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: I've seen him as a blitzer. I've seen him tackle, 339 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: I've seen him take the ball away. He's a good 340 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: football player, man, So I was tempted. I was tempted 341 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: to put him at fifty on my list, and I 342 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, now he's a traditional third round pick. 343 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: Like that's what that profile says. This is a third 344 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: round guy. But when you add it all up, if somebody, 345 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: if somebody took him, took him with a forty fifth 346 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: pick with that, I mean, wouldn't surprise me. 347 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: No, not in the role because that nickel position is 348 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: the twelfth starter. You're counting on a starting quarterback. I'm 349 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: a starting player and that nickel position. You talked about 350 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: the leadership ability. I actually like hearing that because there's 351 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: a lot of communication that takes place. Playing in the slot, 352 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: your half linebacker, half defensive back. You're asked to do 353 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: a lot of different things, whether it's blitzing, whether it's 354 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: being a solid edge setter in the run game, all of. 355 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: That other stuff. 356 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: I like the high IQ, I like the instincts, but 357 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: the leadership ability is another feather in this cap. 358 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: When it comes to the evaluation safeties. 359 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple of names here. Interesting one 360 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: to me, I thought it helped himself a ton with Javon 361 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: Bullard from Georgia. He was five ten, four hundred ninety 362 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: eight pounds ran four four seven one. Who again talking 363 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: to teams to interview stuff. He crushed Cam Kitchens. I 364 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: wish you would have ran faster. He ran a four 365 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: to six five. It's very very similar to JayR. Brown 366 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: and his situation come out of Penn State last year. 367 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: They ran a similar time. Jay R. Brown ended up 368 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: going a little bit later than we would have thought 369 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: and he ended up playing really good football for the 370 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: forty nine ers last year. Newman did not run from Minnesota. 371 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Most teams view him as the top guy. But you 372 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: know there is you know, speed, athleticism concern there the 373 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: two I'll give you three names real quick, or actually 374 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: i'll give you four names that I thought really really 375 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: helped themselves in the safety pile. And again these guys 376 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: are all clumped together. But Cole Bishop from Utah ran 377 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: four four five. I didn't know he had that in him. 378 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kaylen Bullock ran high four fours from sc 379 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: That's not a surprise. Dominique Hampton's a personal favorite of 380 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: mine from Washington. Like third round type. He's two hundred 381 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: and fifteen pounds, ran four or five to one, and 382 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: then the other Georgia's safety Tykey Smith. He ran four 383 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: four six two hundred two pounds, so well, I don't 384 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: think there's a top. I don't think there's a first 385 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: round safety in the bunch. I'm not so sure we 386 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: even see one in the top of the second round. 387 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: But I think there's that that clump of guys that 388 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: we just went through right there, five to six seven guys. 389 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think we see a run 390 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: on those probably the latter part of Day two. So 391 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about that third round, I think you're going 392 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: to see all these safeties go added. 393 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: Part of it will be special teams value if they're 394 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: talking about making the changes to the kickoff rule, kickoff 395 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: return rule, where that's more in play. Now we bring 396 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: those things up in the evaluation before it had to 397 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: become a man. You need to be able to play 398 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: and play well at your position. I think now you 399 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: have a little more flexibility in being able to do it. 400 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: DJ. 401 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: The funny thing about the safeties this year and in 402 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: previous years, the ball production just a number of interceptions 403 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: that we're seeing from the safety class in general, you 404 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 3: just feel better about it. There were years, man, we 405 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: would get guys who have one or two interceptions for 406 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 3: their career. Now we're seeing guys. You talk about Nuban 407 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: at the top of the boyd, he has thirteen interceptions. 408 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: Bullock Havin, I think he has nine seven. I think 409 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: he has seven interceptions. During the time at USC, you're 410 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: seeing more guys get their hands on the football. And 411 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: in a league that where turnovers are really coveted and 412 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: they're the biggest determining fact in who wins and loses games, 413 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: you guys have to be able to have the ball 414 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: skills in the range to turn it over. I mean, 415 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: it looks necessary. You gotta tackle, but you gotta be 416 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: able to take the ball. 417 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: Away, no doubt. Let's get to the linebackers here. Travin 418 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: Wallace from Kentucky at two hundred and thirty seven pounds 419 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: running four to five one was huge. Cedric Gray from 420 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: North Carolina and four six four which is still a 421 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: solid time taller linebacker six to one and change six 422 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: one and a half. There a couple other ones I'll 423 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: highlight for you here real quick. Olo Fashio from Washington. 424 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: He's interesting six to four to two thirty six, ran 425 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: four five six really productive. 426 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: Man. 427 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: I watched one of the Oregon games and he just 428 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: ran over Uh, he ran over Bucky Irving got a 429 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: sack in that game. He's like a third round, third, 430 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: third round type dude. And the other one that I 431 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: liked that I'm trying to I've got some teams that 432 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: have come around on him because they weren't they weren't 433 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: necessarily feeling this guy early on, and I'm like, dude. 434 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: What am I missing? 435 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: This guy's twitched up an explosive like I don't know, 436 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: but uh, Jordan McGee goes out there from Temple and uh, 437 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: he's little undersize, two hundred and twenty eight pounds, but 438 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: he's six oh one to three, six one and three eights. 439 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: He ran four five five and he's a little bit 440 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: tight but buck but super super twitchy and make some plays. 441 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: So again, as we're going through the defensive position, safeties, linebackers, 442 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: like those guys, don't you know that list of guys 443 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: I just mentioned don't blow you away? That's that middle 444 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: tier at the top. Edrin Cooper's still to me is 445 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: the top guy. He ran four to five to one 446 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: at two hundred and thirty pounds. Peyton Wilson was awesome 447 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: from NC State he had four four three he was flying. 448 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: Uh. 449 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: And then Junior Colson from Michigan wight in but didn't run. 450 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: So whatever order you want to have, Peyton Wilson or 451 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: Edgering Cooper, I think I'm cool with. I had a 452 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Cooper Wilson just you know, factored in the injury spuntry, 453 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: But I think those feel like the top three guys 454 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: to me. 455 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ah. 456 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: The Peyton Wilson thing when when you look at the production, 457 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: I mean you just see it. Man, his status, he 458 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: just it falls off the page. Just so much stuff 459 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: that he has and sacks and tackles, lost interceptions, force, fomos, 460 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: all those things. 461 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: You see a guy that plays hard, he's always around 462 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: the ball. Uh. For him to test like he tested, 463 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: that was remarkable. 464 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: The thing that stood out to me DJ was, Uh, 465 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: when you guys were showing him running around and then 466 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: they popped into a high school wrestling tape, Oh yeah. 467 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: Hey bad man. 468 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: That made it looked I put a little gold start 469 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: And my thing I was like, oh, this dude is 470 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: really about it. He helped himself. The medical would be everything. 471 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: But DJ, when I look at him, I'm like, man, 472 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: you just think about the linebackers that have played in 473 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: this league. Again, I know we had him. Come on, 474 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's in the same category, but I just. 475 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: Likes Luke Keikley and he looks like Luke Keigley. There's 476 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: no way to avoid it. Man. I don't like compared 477 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: guys to Hall of famers, but I'm like, that's his guy. 478 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Luke Luke has met with him. Luke texted me, 479 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: he texted me during the common Who's happy for the kid. 480 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: He really likes him. He's got a chance to meet 481 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: him and get to know him a little bit. 482 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: But DJ, you had you had those vibes right, Like, yeah, 483 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: I mean the way he just he's serious, but he 484 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 3: can turned it, turned that thing on, and uh, the 485 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: athleticine is really comes down to the medical. Cooper is 486 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: also fine. Talk about sideline, the sideline player. All that 487 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: other stuff checks out rangy, But yeah, but the guy 488 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 3: I think that made the most noise. I think Peyton 489 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: Wilson made the most noise because I don't know if 490 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: anybody expected him to test like he tested. 491 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: Man. 492 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's almost six four, two hundred and thirty 493 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: three pounds, ran four to four three. I have him 494 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: as my fortieth player. I moved him up a little bit, 495 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: but I mean, you tell me right now that he's 496 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: got a clean bill of health, and you tell me 497 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: he went with the twenty first pick. I get it. 498 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: I get it. He plays like that. So that's the 499 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: linebacker group. We go to the DTS buck Byron Murphy not. 500 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: You know, we told everybody when they were they listened 501 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: to us, he was going to roll. He ran four 502 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: eight seven at two hundred and ninety seven pounds. You know, 503 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: he's just six foot six oh four, six foot and 504 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: a half. They're not the biggest guy in the world, 505 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: but super, super, twitched up and explosive. Johnny Newton did 506 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: not run from Illinois fist, continued his assault on the 507 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: off season. He was two hundred and ninety two pounds, 508 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: ran four to seven eight. And then I'll tell you 509 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: a couple other guys that tested really well. You got 510 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Makai Wingo from LSU, who's you know, two hundred and 511 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: eighty four pounds undersize, ran four eight five. Chris Jenkins, 512 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: we knew was going to roll. He ran four nine 513 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: to one, you know, or Row Row Row ran four 514 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: eight to nine from Clemson. He's one of those guys 515 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: I've got kind of highlighted that I got to go 516 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: back and do more on. I didn't love him as 517 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: a player, but man, he's six four two ninety four 518 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: and four eight nine, so more work to do on him. 519 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: The one that I did add from the group to 520 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: the top fifty that wasn't the only new name that 521 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: I have in the top fifty was Mason Smith from LSU. 522 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Just because you're watching, all these guys are all six 523 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: foot six one, six one six y two, and all 524 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you got this six foot five 525 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: three pound dude comes up there. You know, I'm like, Okay, 526 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: he's different than everybody else, and that's like big time 527 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: recruit coming out of high school, big freshman year, then 528 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: got hurt his knee. Wasn't the same guy. But I'm like, man, 529 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: if you're a defensive line coach, you know you've been 530 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: around those guys like this is the kind of guy 531 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: they want to work with. 532 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely the kind of guy they want to work with. Man, 533 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: you talk about big physical uh long as as the 534 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: physical dimensions that you want to work with, and you 535 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: talk about being a big time recruit, that talent is there, 536 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: now can you cultivate it? Can you get it out 537 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 3: of him? But you certainly intrigue by just just what 538 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: he brings to the table as. 539 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: An athlete, and no doubt. And then edge Rusher's here 540 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: real quick. Tallas Turner in a four four six a 541 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: little bit shorter than I thought at six h two six, 542 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: but two forty seven with it with freaky length, like 543 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: freaky freaky length and wingspan. Jared Verse super explosive, ran 544 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: a four to five eighth. Leatu Latu did everything he 545 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: needed to do at two hundred and fifty nine pounds, 546 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: ran four to sixty four. Chop Robinson put on a 547 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: show as we said he would. He ran four to 548 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: four eight at two hundred and fifty four pounds. Darius 549 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: Robinson was ran four nine to five at two eighty five. 550 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: And then I had Marshaun o'nealand in my top fifty 551 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: he ran a four to seven five at two sixty 552 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: seven with like thirty four inch arms. So he's, uh, 553 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: he's a good looking kid as well. 554 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, DJ, you know what so interesting about these adgereshers, 555 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: like we talked about, they're not being a mouse. Garrett 556 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: in the group. But there's just a lot of guys 557 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: that have intriguing attributes. We talked about the top three, 558 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: and those top three, I think it comes down to, 559 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: like what you really want, what do you want to 560 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: play with? How how are you kind of stacking your defense? 561 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: But they're some interesting guys like in the later ranks, 562 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: like we talked about at the Espress Rine game, Muhammad 563 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: Kamara from Colorado State. Yeah, dude, he's interesting man, whichie 564 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: you know DJ Shack Production had thirteen sacks, was co 565 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: defensive Player of the Year in the Mountain West. First 566 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 3: step first step quickness you saw at the East West Riane. 567 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: Game seven buck in seven. 568 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you see him put it up. 569 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: Uh, he's a guy that's that's adventures and we see 570 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: in it and I think I'm learning my lesson from 571 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: watching Byron Young from the La Rams kind of popping. 572 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: You see him on tape and see the first step quickness, 573 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: but you're like, man, what does he fit? I think 574 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: Kamar can have similar success around in the same round 575 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 3: value in terms of being a third round pick that 576 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: can come and make plays. 577 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: Yep, I like it. And then a couple other interesting guys, 578 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: Gabe Murphy. We talked about him before you saw him 579 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: at the East West Shrine Game. He ran a four 580 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: to six eight at two hundred and forty seven pounds. 581 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: He had eight sacks last year. I liked him. Xavier Thomas, 582 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: who's been at Clemson for one hundred years, it seems like, 583 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: but was a big time recruit. He ran a four 584 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: to six two at two hundred and forty four pounds 585 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: six oh two two. An interesting, interesting player. And I 586 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: thought the guy who, you know, one of the more 587 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: interesting things that I saw from this group was Brailn Trice. 588 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: Weighing at two forty five, he must have cut close 589 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: to twenty pounds and ran a four to seven to two. 590 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: So four seven two is a solid time. I just 591 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting to me that he he cut 592 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: like that, and uh, and obviously knew the question was 593 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: the athleticism, and so he said, screw it, I'm just 594 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: gonna shave this weight and get out there and run 595 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: the best I can possibly run. 596 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look that's what that's that's what people do. 597 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: It is interesting, like twenty pounds is a significant cut, 598 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: and so what you have to do is you have 599 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: to treat it as such when you look at that time, 600 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 3: you got to put almost an asteris buy it because 601 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: it's certainly not his playing weight. It's not what he 602 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: played it during the course of the year. So how 603 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 3: much does it really matter? I don't know, Like we 604 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 3: see people kind of do things like that during this 605 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: time of year to make sure and he probably won't 606 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: weigh again, you know, it may not run again or 607 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: be it his pro day, he'll be ten pounds heavier. 608 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: But if Tim Mar that shows me the guy cares. 609 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: That shows me he cares because he knew what the 610 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: questions were and so he's like, that's why I'm run 611 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: as fast as I can possibly run. So good for 612 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: him doing that. All right, we're gonna take a quick break. 613 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: That is a wrap on the combine recap here Again, 614 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: if you missed the offense, we did that on the 615 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: previous episode. You can go check that one out. But 616 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: we are going to jump into I believe it is 617 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: the AFC South if I'm not mistaken. We're going to 618 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: look at their championship foundational pieces. We'll do that right 619 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: after this. All right, Buck, let's let's continue on this series. 620 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: We've been doing this on the building blocks, the foundational 621 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: pieces here for every single team in the NFL. This 622 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: is going to finish up the AFC. As we go 623 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: to the South and we start with the Houston Texans, 624 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: this is a team in terms of a Soury Caps situation, 625 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: very very appealing. They have seventy million dollars worth of space, 626 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: that's fourth most in the NFL. They are armed with 627 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: the twenty third pick, the fifty ninth pick in the 628 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: eighty sixth pick, that's where they're going to be in 629 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: this draft. They've got some notable free agents though. You've 630 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: got Jonathan Greener, Devin Singletary, Noah Brown, which fant Stephen 631 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: Wilson or Stephen Nelson I should say little Corner, mighty mouse. 632 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: You've got Sheldon Rankins of DT and Blake Cashman the linebacker. 633 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: As we go through and look at their kind of 634 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: key pieces, will go uh. I mean, it's hard as 635 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: a rookie to get a blue, but they got a 636 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: blue with c J. 637 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: Stroud at quarterbacks. 638 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: So blue chip player c J. Stroud, he's a blue. 639 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: Uh. 640 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: Your three, your three offensive playmakers again, we got to 641 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: fill all these different spots. So for their offensive playmakers, 642 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: Nico Collins is a green, maybe headed towards the blue 643 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: the way he played. Take Dell's a yellow because of 644 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: the you know, coming off of the injury, but is 645 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: really a green when he's healthy. Dalton Schultz they just resigned, 646 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: He's a green. Laramie Tunsall for their three offensive lineman, Tunsel. 647 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: Is a blue. 648 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: You get a yellow for Titus Howard slash Shack Mason. 649 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: There you get a pink, which is a you know, 650 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: unproven younger player, but Kenyon Green and Juice Scruggs would 651 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: compete for that spot. And then the pass rushers you 652 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: get two. Uh, they've got a green, and Will Anderson 653 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: Junior a green and Elie Collins again, if they were 654 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: to re sign Greenard, he'd be in that mix. And 655 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: then the defensive playmakers at the linebacker slash secondary position, 656 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: you get three spots. Petriza Green Singletary is a I 657 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: would argue he's better than a yellow here. We should 658 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: get that one switched. He should be a green at least, 659 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: and then defensive playmakers. The last one. Christian Harris would 660 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: be a pink here, but he's on his way to 661 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: being a green, if not at green already as well. 662 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good, young squat. The number one thing that 663 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: they have is they got a blue chip quarterback in CJ. Stroup, 664 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: and that makes it a lot easier to build a 665 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: team around, to build a team up because you have someone, 666 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: a franchise player that you can build around. Nico Collins, 667 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: you talked about being able to be a guy that 668 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: could push for being a blue We saw Tangeddal, and 669 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: Tangdale prought to his injuryies playing like at a blue 670 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: level for this team, Larry Man Tonsel being there and 671 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: so DJ just from an offensive standpoint, there should be 672 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: a lot of optimism. 673 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: Around what this team could be with CJ. 674 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: Drout at the helm, and then with Dimiko Ryan's background 675 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: and what he's been able to do quickly with this defense. 676 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: They play hard, they get after it, they got a 677 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: ton of money that they can throw at people. This 678 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: team is going to be there. They're built to be 679 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: around for the long haul. A lot of its just 680 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: tied to the development of CJ. Stroud, But this team 681 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: has a lot of intriguing young pieces, and I don't 682 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: know if anybody thought that we would be talking about 683 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: them so glowingly after what they look like like before 684 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: last season. 685 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: Well, I just did a Ron Burgundy because you got 686 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: misspelled words in here, and I just read them right out. 687 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, the heck is Derek Singletary. I'm like, Derek Stingly. 688 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: It's so no Bill. They got to come on, man, 689 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: they got to fix that here. Derek's Singletary Junior. I'm like, 690 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: who the heck is Derek Singletary Junior. I'm like, oh, 691 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: Stingley nice anyway, So don't clip off that part please 692 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: and send that out so I can hear from everybody 693 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: about what moron I am. But they've got a chance 694 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: to have a bunch of blue dudes in this group 695 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: because they've got a bunch of greens that are going 696 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: to graduate to blues here very quickly. You look at 697 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: their last five first round picks Stroud will Anderson home run, 698 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: home run, Stingley Junior home run, Kenyon Green, and Titus Howard. 699 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Solid solid players can be solid starters for them. So 700 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: they're in good shape there in Houston. Let's get to Jacksonville. 701 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: Jacksonville finish nine to eight last year. They are picking 702 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: seventeen and forty eight, and they're projected to have a 703 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: third round compick as well. Salary cap wise, they have 704 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: twenty four point six million, which is seventeenth most in 705 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: terms of space. You've got Calvin Ridley as the primary 706 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: free agent there. They just released Darius Williams. They just 707 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: released Rayshawn Jenkins as well. So when you go and 708 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: look at their foundational pieces, a lot of green here. Buck, 709 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: So we need some greens to move up. But you've 710 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: got Trevor Lawrence as a green. You've got etn as 711 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: a green. Evan Ingram is a green. Christian Kirk is 712 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: a yellow. I'm guessing that is I'd have to get 713 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: the explanation on that. Why he's not a maybe maybe maybe. 714 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: Maybe because of injury, maybe just because the injury because 715 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: you've missed the last part of the year. 716 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: But he should be a green for sure. 717 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: Yes, uh, Brand Sheriff's a yellow. Cam Robinson's a yellow. 718 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: Anton Harrison is a is a pink. Is an unproven 719 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: young player, Josh Allen, don't we have to doesn't he 720 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: have to be a blue? Buck the league in sacks, 721 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: you's got to be a blue, should be a blue, 722 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: so he should be a blue. Trayvon Walker is listed 723 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: as a green. A Lua Khan is a green. Devin 724 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: Lloyd's a green, and then the last defensive playmaker spot 725 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell or Andre Cisco, your choice would be a yellow. 726 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: So it's just a team you know extremely well, Buck, 727 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: What do you think? 728 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: I think it's a very accurate depiction of what the 729 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: team is. I think the team is is right at 730 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: that line. Would have to make a decision. Are they 731 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: gonna be good? They're gonna be great. You have a 732 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: lot of good players. Trevor Lawrence is a good player, 733 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: hasn't consistently played at a level where you could call 734 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: him a blue. Travis Etienne is a good player, but 735 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: hasn't played. 736 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: At a blue yelll yet blue level yet. 737 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: I would say the best offensive players they have right 738 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: now Evan Ingram and Christian Kirk, even though they wouldn't 739 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: grate out his blues for this team, they play at 740 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: the blue level. 741 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: Because the way that it's built. 742 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: Worried about the offensive line. Brenton Sheriff has man struggled 743 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. Injuries, age and those things. 744 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: You wonder what he's going to be able to do 745 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: for them. And then Cam Robinson has been good, been injured, 746 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: dealt with suspensions and so that's an issue. Defensively, You're 747 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: looking for one of these guys outside of Josh Allen 748 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: to emerge as a blue player. You're hoping that Trayvon 749 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: Walker can be that blue player. You take someone number 750 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: one overall, that's the expectation. So if they get Josh 751 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: Allen and Trayvon Walker to play at a blue level, 752 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: then they feel good. But the big issue for them 753 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: is going to be in the back end. Who is 754 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: going to be the star corner or safety that helps 755 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: this team defend the elite offenses in the league. Tyson 756 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: Campbell has been up and down. Andre Cisco has also 757 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: been up and down. The hope is that in a 758 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: new scheme that these players were finally maximize and reach 759 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: their potential. 760 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: That's good stuff. Again, nobody knows this team better than Bucky. 761 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: You go back to the last five first round picks 762 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: to Harrison Tackles, It played better than I thought he would. Honestly, 763 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: I probably undergraded him a little bit. Trayvon Walker, Devin Lloyd, 764 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence Travis, etm. So that's kind of the foundation 765 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: again for these guys going forward. Get to the Colts 766 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: team that was nine to eight last year, they picked fifteen, 767 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: forty six and eighty two. They have forty nine point 768 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: three million dollars in cap space. That's eighth most free 769 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: agent wise. You've got Kenny Moore as a free agent. 770 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: That's their biggest one there. They just announced that they 771 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: had tagged Michael Pittman Junior, so he's in the fold. 772 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: Here we look at their key foundational pieces. Here again, 773 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: you get a quarterback, three offensive playmakers, three quality Ozero line, 774 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: two pass rushers, and three defensive playmakers. So the quarterback 775 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is a he is a pink. Is an 776 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: unproven young player. Jonathan Taylor is a blue. He's a 777 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: blue chipper. Michael Pittman Junior is a green, which is 778 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: a really good player. Josh Bowns slash Alec Pierce. They 779 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: fall in the pink category. You've got Quenton Nelson as 780 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: a green. You've got Bernard Ryman as a green. Ryan Kelly, 781 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm guessing probably for you know, age maybe agent injury 782 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: as a center as yellow. Quity pays a green. Now 783 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner, I would argue could still be a blue. 784 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: He's listed as a green. Here. Zaire Franklin for the 785 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: playmakers in EJ. Speeder, Yellows and Juju Brent Slash Jalen 786 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: Jones are pinks. 787 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an interesting team, right. 788 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: It's an interesting team because DJ they played really well 789 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: on the Shane psych in his first season. This is 790 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: a team that I think like their effort and their toughness, 791 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: maybe mass some of their physical deficiencies. But the team 792 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: is intriguing because of what we've talked about on the 793 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: podcast previously, how Chris Ballard and staff they decided to 794 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 3: go after all guys with the prototypical traits. Right, so 795 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 3: what you have is a team of dynamic and explosive athletes. 796 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: A lot of the guys that you name, they are 797 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: those prototypical guys that you look for at the position. 798 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 3: You think about Quentin Nelson, you think about Quitty pay 799 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: and his athleticism, You think about the Forest buck they're 800 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: and its height, weight speed, his size, and all of 801 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: the other guys that kind of manet from top to bottom. 802 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: They are an interesting team because they're kind of going, 803 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: i'll say, against the trend. But what they're doing is 804 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 3: they're supplying the coaching staff with a bunch of great 805 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: athletes and asking the coaching staff he turn these athletes 806 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: into productive players. 807 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: They've had success, it would be I'm curious to see. 808 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: What this next class, what they add on top of 809 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 3: what they already have. Do they stay down the same 810 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 3: course and how quickly can those first and second year 811 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: players develop? Because the foundation is there for this team 812 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: to make a jump. It's just a matter of can 813 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: the development happen quick enough for this team to play 814 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: at a playoff level? 815 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: No doubt. Their last first round picks here with Chris Ballard, 816 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, Quity Pay, Quentin Nelson, and Malie Cooker was 817 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: his first one up. By the way, Malie Cookers ended 818 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: up being a solid player for the Cowboys. So even 819 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: that I've thought that I was one I had a 820 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: big grade on him. I needed him to do something, 821 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: So I'm glad. I'm glad he's found a little something 822 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: there with the Cowboys. 823 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: All right. 824 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, last team in the division. They are coming 825 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: off a six and eleven year. They have picks seven 826 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: and thirty eight, so that's where they are in this draft. 827 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: They have seventy five point eight million Holy moly in 828 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: cap space, that is the third most, so they're in 829 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good shape there, you've got some free agents Tannehill, 830 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Denico Autry is a good player. Aziz Al 831 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: Shier linebacker. So they've got some free agents out there. 832 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: When you look at building blocks for them offensively, the 833 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: quarterback spot, Will Levis is pink, unproven, Taj Spears for 834 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: the playmaker pink, unproven. DeAndre Hopkins I'm guessing for Age 835 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: is a yellow. And then you have Traylon Burke Slash 836 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: a Conquo. Those are both pinks. So you don't have 837 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: any blues there. Offensive line wise, those three spots. Scronsky's 838 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: a pink. You've got Raiding's and Dillard or yellows, and 839 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: then you've got Petite or Jalen Dunkle Duncan as pinks. 840 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: So that offensively buck that is not good. Defensively, Jeffrey 841 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: Simmons absolutely a blue. Harold Landry is a green. And 842 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: then the playmakers in the back end where there's a 843 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: lot of work that needs to be done. Here, you've 844 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: got Gibbons, McCrary and Hooker. You've got two pinks in 845 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: a green there. 846 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, team not good, not good, Yeah, team squarely under construction. 847 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 3: They're trying to rebuild it ran Carthon as his work 848 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 3: cut out for him. They believe they have a young 849 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: quarterback in Will Levis. They want to kind of build 850 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: the team around what he is able to do. But 851 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: this is a team that is in the middle of 852 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 3: a flip, you know, a fixer upper, and so the 853 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: draft will be a big part of the equation when 854 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: it comes to getting this team to catch up with 855 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 3: the division. 856 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: Righters, they have to knock it out the box. 857 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: They got to make sure that they hit on their 858 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 3: first two to three rounds and make sure that those 859 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 3: guys become foundational pieces because right now you just have 860 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: a lot of question marks. You got players in those slots, 861 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: but they's a lot of questions. They got to turn 862 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 3: some of these pinks into eventual greens and blues. For 863 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 3: this team to get back to the top of the AFC. 864 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: They need some they need some difference makers, man, Like 865 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: they don't have enough premier players like they you know, 866 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: you talk about build out your depth, and you're like, 867 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: they need impact guys. So you know, they've got a 868 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: bunch of money to spend. They need to go out 869 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: and at least get one of them, you know, one 870 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: or two of them. In free agency, not not plugging, 871 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, not plug into the lineup type guys, but 872 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: actual impact players. So that's on the to do list 873 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: there for ran Our buddy Ryan Carthon's got some work 874 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: to do here to get these guys up and running. 875 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: Their last five first round picks. You've got Scronsky trailing, 876 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: Burk's Caleb Farley, Issaiah Wilson, Jeffrey Simmons. Hit the home 877 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: run with Jeffrey Simmons in twenty nineteen, but they need 878 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: they need more guys like him in this roster. If 879 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna really try and catch up in 880 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: a division with Houston, who's on the They're just on 881 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: the diving board. Man, they're just getting ready to bounce 882 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: and even go even higher. You know, they're all going 883 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: to get better. You see Jacksonville, you know the talent 884 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: on that roster. Indy's got a bunch of you know, 885 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: athletic freaks and you know, get a chance keep their 886 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: quarterback healthy. We'll see what they can do. But man, 887 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: they got a lot of work to do here in 888 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee this offseason. 889 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of work to do. 890 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 3: And I mean all these teams like there's not a 891 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: clear cut front runner, but I will say the Houston 892 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 3: Texas a well positioned to kind of put a vice 893 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 3: grip on this division with this quarterback and with the 894 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 3: young players that they have on defense. The other team's 895 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: really got to get ready for the textan because they're 896 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 3: gonna be there for a minute, no doubt. 897 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: All right, Buck, this has been a fun episode. We 898 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: jammed a lot in here, but it's always great to 899 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: catch up, man, anything else you want to throw in 900 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: here before we get out. 901 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 2: Now, that's always fun, man. 902 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 3: Like coming out of the combine and getting ready for 903 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: free agency, we can begin to already see how these 904 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 3: teams are about the pop. 905 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: I would ask a favor of you if you haven't already, man, 906 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: we'd love a five star rating and a review if 907 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: you can. Wherever you're listening to us. Just helps get 908 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: the word out. This is the best time of year 909 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: for us in this On this podcast, we get a 910 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of great feedback, a lot of texts from buddies 911 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: in the league. I got a lot of feedback when 912 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: we were Indianapolis from folks both on the media side 913 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: as well as a team side. So this is our 914 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: favorite time of the year. I hope you guys can 915 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: feel that and sense that. But we'd love it if 916 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: you do us a solid, give us a little rating 917 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: and review. We do appreciate it. All right, that's it. 918 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time right here on moving sticks.