1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Up next, The Truth with Lisa both part of the 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: game which the left may hate guns, but they love 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: putting gun right activists and their crosshairs even more. My 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: next guest is a complete and total badass. She is 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: also one of the nation's top conservative radio hosts, and 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: she's also been on the receiving end of the left 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: smears time and time again. This is The Truth with 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Lisa Booth. Yea welcome back to the Truth with Lisa Booth. 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: I've got an exciting show for you guys this week. 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: My guest is the one and only Dana Lash, a 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: complete and total badass. She is also a nationally syndicated 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: talk radio host who dominates the airways from twelve pm 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: to three pm each and every day. The Dana Show 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: has been so successful that she just inked a new 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: multi year deal with Radio America. She's an author and 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: perhaps one of the most prominant influential commentators in the country, 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: but perhaps above all that, she's a fierce advocate of 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. With such a huge platform, Dana is 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: constantly the subject of vicious and cruel attacks from the left, 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: yet she doesn't let them stop her. Today, Dana and 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: I discussed her life, the future of the country, and 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: of course guns. We dig into what Congress and the 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Biden administration has in store for you and how they're 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: working to take away your Second Amendment rights. Data. We 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: were talking before we started getting roling, and I was 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: telling you that, you know, I don't have a fancy 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: studio that I'm I'm doing this in my my closet, 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: and you're telling me that that's how you got started 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: as well, from your closet. First off, it's good to 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: be with you, and thank you so much for having 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: me on your on your awesome brand new podcast, and 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: congrats on that. That's super cool. When I first started 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: on radio, it was a local radio and so we 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: we had a radio studio. But when I moved to Texas, 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: until I built out a place in my house, I mean, 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I legit was like in a closet and there was 37 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: something very Wayne's World esk about it that I really 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: liked because I kind of felt like I could do 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: whatever I wanted to and nobody could stop me, which 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, ultimately, I mean I really could have, but um, 41 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: there was a certain I don't know, there was like 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: this rebellious aesthetic about it, and then when I got 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: into my studio studio, I thought I lost a little 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: bit of that Wayne's world feel. I don't know, just 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: there's something I that I liked about it. There was 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: something that was super authentic. I mean, not that it's 47 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: not now, but you you learned to kind of like 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: reminisque and romanticize that in the little closet days. But 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: I think that's why I've always liked you, is that 50 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: there's like this rebellious spirit about you that you know, 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: you're just not like beholding to anyone. You speak for yourself. 52 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: You know, you're just You're not going to back down 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: to anyone. I'd recognize that in you as well, and 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm to that. I'm I'm like that almost to a fault. Actually, 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: my husband would probably say to a fault. I mean, really, 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: it's a I am. It's so wrapped up in my 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: American DNA to be so unbelievably opposed to authoritarianism and 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: everything else that I just dig in and I will 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: resist something sometimes out of just pure spite. And I've 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: been like that since I was a little kid. I 61 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't it's never it's not I mean 62 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: sometimes it serves me well and sometimes it doesn't. But 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to shake. Now I'm actually this 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: same like my parents would say. I'm not married yet, 65 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: but I'm sure my future husband would say, you know 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: it probably would say the same thing. I know my 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: parents would say the same. I mean, I definitely, I 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: always just I've always bucked authority. But you know, sort 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: of your DNA being opposed to this authoritarianism, but I 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: really just feel it sweeping into our country and seeping 71 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: into the bloodstream. And I actually my last guest was 72 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Maximo Alveris, who's a Cuban exile, and he was just 73 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: talking about communism here in America. You know, from your 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: perspective as someone who believes in individual freedom, and that's 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: just in your DNA, what's sort of your broader picture 76 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: on where we are today as a country. Your guests 77 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: scared the living hell out of me, because me too, 78 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, no, it's like I 79 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of get like honestly, because I was listening to 80 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: that and I kind of got the same feeling that 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: I got the first time I ever read Screwtape Letters 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: by C. S. Lewis, Because then I realized this is 83 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: all the ways the devil can get us. And then 84 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, listening to Maximum and he's sitting 85 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: here saying, well, you know, it's the it's I mean, 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: look at every aspect of American society, how much Marxism 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: has crept in, and I mean, really, ultimately it is. 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: I really do think it's like that. I even have 89 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on a tinfoil hat from a and 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: and incorporate Marxism and something that I hate about pop culture, 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: which is the little house phenomenon um. I will never 92 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: have a little house that appear spite out of rebellion 93 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: because I feel like it's like they're trying to condition you. 94 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, is this a Marxist conditioning? Because it's everywhere else. 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: It's in academia. We're having a huge fight here and 96 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: on the town I live in, with our school district. 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: It's I mean, you see it in the media. We 98 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: don't even really we don't have a free press anymore. 99 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: We have a press that that is the whole into 100 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: a political party, but we don't have a free press. 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: And it even goes beyond the good taste of editorialism. 102 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: Some of the stuff that they're doing, like the Washington 103 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Post shutting down the Biden fact check after one hundred 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: days because I guess you know, there's no more times 105 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: to fact check him now the one hundred days is up. 106 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: But and then have been like the biggest prolific wire 107 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: in like political history. And he's the Veruko assault of presidents. 108 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know any other president that's asked Congress 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: for six trillion dollars in just their first one hundred days, 110 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: and after what I'm calling the big pimpin plan, which 111 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: is the American what is it, the American Family Plan, 112 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: the giant you know, hold your ankles tax plan that 113 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: he's proposing. Uh, that's I mean, I I don't know 114 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: anybody that has ever asked any president that's asked Congress 115 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: with that much cash in the first one hundred days 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: with zero offsets and offsets and spending too so I 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: and and people from everything from the virtue signaling with 118 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: with vaccines and masks and everything else, it really does. 119 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: It just feels different. It just feels weird. And I 120 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: really when I was listening to your guests, I really 121 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: came back to this this montor that not everybody is 122 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: built to be free. Not everybody wants freedom. I think 123 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: there's some people, Lisa, that are so terrified of the 124 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: responsibility and the risk that is associated with living free 125 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: that they would rather have just a taste of freedom 126 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: and then kind of living in that false security of 127 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: the government's palm. And that's really what I think. We've 128 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: really seen that, especially with the pandemic well, and that's 129 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: really concerned me as well. And to just the unquestioning 130 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: nature of Americans today. You know, you've like they're basically 131 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: just allowing the c d C to tell them that 132 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: they no longer have to wear a mask outdoors, which 133 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: is like most reasonable people arrived at that point at 134 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: the beginning. They're telling us to do what we sort 135 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: of were already doing in the in the first place. 136 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: And the shaming, this this public shaming that's going along 137 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: with it as well, where and I've seen I've even 138 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: seen some concern of it is due. And I don't 139 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: care if somebody wants to wear a mask or not. 140 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, when I always joke because I'm such a germophobe, 141 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: it's my husband says, it's like traveling with Michael Jackson 142 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: whenever we would get on a plane. This is even 143 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: pre pandemic because I have to wipe down the seats. 144 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: I have to. I just because I think people are gross. 145 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I I worked as a server, I was 146 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 1: a wagers in high school. I mean, I know people. 147 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, people can be nasty. And I'm like, I'm 148 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: not gonna sit or touch a seat belt that like 149 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: somebody gross probably has touched. I'm not going to touch 150 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: this air evant. So I wipe it down. And if 151 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: my husband's not traveling with me and there's like somebody 152 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: else that's sitting with me, tough luck, because I gotta 153 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: wipe their stuff down too. I'm like, I can't be sitting. 154 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you gotta move. I gotta wipe your stuff down. 155 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: I can't have you touching this. I'm it's a mess. 156 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: But during the blue season, I would have the face mask, 157 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: like I didn't have to go out and get all 158 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: this stuff. I had all of the stuff in my 159 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: pantry in the first place. I didn't have to get 160 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: any face masks or anything like that. I had all 161 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: of it. And people used to think that was a freak. 162 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: But I felt like Bane, like from Batman when he 163 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: was like you merely adopted the darkness. I was born 164 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: in it. I felt like that when all of this 165 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: stuff hit. But here's the funny thing, Lisa, and I 166 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: know you'll identify with this, being so resistant to authoritarianism. 167 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: The moment everyone was like, oh, you gotta wear a mask, 168 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to wear them anymore. I wanted to 169 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: burn them off. So weird, that's hilarious. And my thing 170 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: is like, look, I don't care what anyone else does, 171 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Like if this makes you feel safer, like you know, 172 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: be my guest, but like mind your own damn business, 173 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: like get off my law, and like, you know, don't 174 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: you dare tell me how I'm supposed to live my life. Yeah, 175 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: And and like the stuff with the vaccines. I I'm 176 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: not anti vax I'm not anti vaccine. Like I don't 177 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: care about GMOs. I don't. I mean I really don't care. 178 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, I eat healthy, and you know, 179 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: I just picked the best looking banana when I go 180 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: to the grocery store. You know, I don't. I don't 181 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: really like is this organic? I don't know. I'm just 182 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: it looks nice. I want to have this one. But 183 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: when people are trying to shame you for not for 184 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: for I don't even know if I don't know anybody 185 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: that is super anti coronavirus vaccine. I think everyone's sort 186 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: of in the same boat that I am, and that 187 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: we're a little hesitant to embrace something that was only 188 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: cleared for emergence the usage, Like if we didn't have 189 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: this emergency authorization order from the White House, then just 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: would not be administered. Nobody would be getting this stuff 191 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: and all of the side effects that you know, people 192 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: just I just kind of want to wait and see, 193 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, and and it's it's not like, you know, 194 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: the government hasn't given us any reason to not trust 195 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: them or anything, right. I mean, people, I think are 196 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: after the last four years that we all went through 197 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: from with the Russian collision in sixteen, the medium malpractice, 198 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: so on and so forth, and then to have government representatives, 199 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: people like Fauci and others say where the mask don't 200 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: wear the masks, pregnant women can get the vaccine, No 201 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: they can't, and kind of move the goal post. The 202 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: messaging has been disastrous. Kamala Harris going out and saying, well, 203 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: you know, if Trump came out with a vaccine, I 204 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: don't know that I would get it that put a 205 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: lot of question in people's heads because that did more 206 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: than politicize that. I mean, she's questioning the credibility and 207 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: trustworthiness of something that you know, that that a lot 208 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: of people worked on. So I don't really think that 209 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: all these people that are hesitant can be faulted or 210 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: judged by others because of everything that I just mentioned. 211 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: They have genuine reason to just want to get as 212 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: much information as possible and be as informed as impossible 213 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: before they inject a liquid into their body. And I 214 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: think that that's perfectly reasonable. Yeah, and like for a 215 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: virus that has a point one five percent fatality rate, 216 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: which isn't significantly higher than the flu. So that's kind 217 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: of my heasite, especially for someone you know who like 218 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: we're young, healthy, It's like it just doesn't make sense 219 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: for me. But do you think you know, we're kind 220 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: of talking this conversation about you know, freedom and anti 221 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: authoritarianism and the overreach that we've been saying, is that 222 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: why you're such a passionate defender of the Second Amendment? Like? 223 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: What what was? How did how did that passion get started? 224 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: You know, where's the genesis of that. It definitely is 225 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: all wrapped up in that. I mean when so I 226 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: grew up democrat. I grew up a Baptist Democrat, but 227 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: not like the Democrats that you see today. It was 228 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: a very different world. Although you know, most of my 229 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: family is now like that. They're all now like the 230 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Democrats of today. But I was never against um. I 231 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: was never against the Second Amendment. I never. I mean 232 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I I just to me, it was, oh, it's you know, 233 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: it's in our it's one of our natural rights. It's 234 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: just you know, beyond question. It was not anything that 235 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: I questioned, you know it. And it wasn't until I 236 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: got into politics as a young adult and I was 237 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: in my twenties that it really became evident, especially when 238 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: I first went on radio and we had all kinds 239 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: of stuff when I lived in St. Louis that blew up. 240 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: This was really like right at the start of the 241 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: Tea Party stuff, when there was a guy named Keneth 242 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: Gladney who got beaten in the parking lot of a 243 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: town hall. It was then Representative Russ Carnigan's town hall, 244 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: and he got beaten up by these SEU SEIU members 245 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: because they thought that he was a black tea partier 246 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: and he I see, I've seen Kinneth Gladney before. He 247 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: was a guy who used to sell whatever whatever event 248 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: it was, he would have pro merged that pro that merch. 249 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Like if it was an a bomba event, it was 250 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: pro Obama stuff. If it was a tea party event, 251 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: it was like gats and flags and that don't step up, 252 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: don't tread on me, snakes. It was all that. And 253 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: he's a capitalist. And they assumed, because he was selling 254 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: that stuff at a rally, which actually was brilliant, that 255 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: he was a black tea party and so they these 256 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, sci you guys beat him down to the 257 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: parking lot. It was on video, and that's actually was 258 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: like theirs one of the first things that I went 259 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: on Fox to talk about. And after that it got 260 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: real crazy, and I remember the police chief there in St. 261 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Louis City was telling me, you're gonna have to go 262 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: get your concealed carry license. Now I had rifles, I mean, 263 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: I shot rifles and you know, all kinds of stuff, 264 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: but I had never really more than just like a 265 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: handful of times fired a handgun. And I didn't even 266 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: own a handgun. So I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm 267 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to get very thoroughly familiar with pistols. And 268 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: so that's what I did, and then went got my 269 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: concealed carry license. And it's really when you have to 270 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: rely on something that you really value it and uh, 271 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just to know that I how long 272 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: it takes for police to respond to stuff. I thought, 273 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: if I'm ever in a situation where you know, my 274 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: husband's traveling and I'm home with the kids, or somebody 275 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: decides to get froggy or something, I'm I want to 276 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: be able to not worry about it. I don't want 277 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: to have to constantly be fearful of of, you know, 278 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: being at home by myself. We lived in the city 279 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: at the time, because I think that somebody's going to 280 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: do something as retribution for what I said on air 281 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: or what I believe. And that's when I realized, I 282 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: don't I don't like the I don't like the feeling 283 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: of helplessness. I don't like the feeling of outsourcing my security. 284 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: And I'm such a control freak that I wanted to 285 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: know absolutely everything possible and I trained. That's when I 286 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: we started taking classes and doing all kinds of stuff 287 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: because I I wanted to be as good or better 288 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: than the people that would be responding to my call 289 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: for help. And um, that's that's really ultimately what started it. 290 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: And then to watch people try to talk other Americans 291 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: and particularly women into disarming as like a show of virtue, 292 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: that really angered me because I thought, these people don't 293 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: care about the safety of these these other women or 294 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: these other citizens and their families. They don't, I mean, 295 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: they're not going to respond to if they call mine 296 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: one one these you know, the activist, the gun control 297 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: activists are going to respond. So who's taken responsibility for 298 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: these people safety? And that just really started driving that 299 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: whole push. I totally agree with you on that, Dana, 300 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Hold on just one second. We've got to get to 301 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: a commercial break and then we'll get back to it. 302 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: Right now, we're seeing first time gun owners, you know, 303 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: young old across the country are now pushing. We're seeing 304 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: record levels of gun sales for first time gun owners, 305 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: I think for the second year in a row. Now, 306 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: why do you think we're seeing that? Why do you 307 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: think we're saying such a big increase in gun ownership 308 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: in America? Two things, the increased crime rate and a 309 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: in an entire year, particularly all last summer. The visual 310 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: of burning cities and people getting assaulted in the name 311 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: of liberty or in the name of justice, which I 312 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: think is weird to commit injustice to somehow like provoked 313 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: can get justice. That doesn't make any sense. People saw that, 314 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: and I think they also just realized that the tenor 315 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: has changed. Used to when when whoever there was like 316 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: political disagreements, you know, it was something that was like 317 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: not really um, if you were a dentist, you didn't 318 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: have to you didn't have to worry about, uh, you know, 319 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: anything that you did in your job, you know, your 320 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: life being ruined because you were you you engaged in 321 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: wrong think or anything like that. And it used to 322 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: be just kind of you know, how does it used 323 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: to be limited to like what you do what I do, 324 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Like if you're in the political sphere, you know, the 325 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: nastiness kind of came along with it, but people who 326 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: weren't in an industry never really had to worry about that. Well, 327 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: now everybody's got to worry about it. You could be 328 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, a cashier at a grocery store and now 329 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: you're involved in it too. I think that those that's 330 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: sort of one part of it. And then obviously Democrats 331 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: going out and saying, well, we're going to take the 332 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: text dollars that you voted on and then to allocate 333 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: towards police, and we're going to take that to do 334 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: things that have nothing at all to do with, you know, 335 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: protecting and serving the community. And when people hear that, okay, 336 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: well they're going to defund police or they're calling to 337 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: do it. And some city councils were actually going through 338 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: the motions and voting to do it. And then they 339 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: see entire city blocks in Minneapolis burning, you know, federal 340 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: courthouses and in Portland under attack. They see these crazy 341 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: people trying to garden unsuccessfully at Chaz Chop and then 342 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: our teenager gets killed. They see this and and and 343 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean they even had this. There was there even 344 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: riots and property damage in Dallas, Texas that really, you know, 345 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: people didn't really think, Okay, I need to be able 346 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: to be my own first responder, because they're their cops 347 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: are retiring faster than they can recruit them. So who 348 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: knows who's gonna if anyone is going to respond? If 349 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: I call nine one one Well, that's the thing about 350 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: the left right now is it's like, okay, so you know, 351 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: not only are they trying to curtail Second Amendment right 352 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: in America, Like we're already seeing the bid administration moving 353 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: on executive orders. Congress is likely going to try to 354 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: move things forward, so we're already seeing you know, action 355 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: from the left. Well, simultaneously, you're seeing these left wing cities, uh, 356 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, cut down police budgets, and cities are becoming 357 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: increasingly less safe. So it's like, do they just not 358 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: want us to be safe? It's like, so I don't 359 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: they They want to discarm you and then also make 360 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: your city less safe. So it's like, okay, like what's 361 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: what's the end goal here? Point? And and to that 362 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: they're always you also have activists that screamed that the police, 363 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, systemic racism and policing, policing is unjust. They 364 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: called the last administration Hitler and anyone who is still 365 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: even remotely associated as Hitler. But also those are the 366 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: only people that should have guns. So it doesn't make sense. 367 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't reconcile that messed up logic, So 368 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: which is it? Those activists can't choose. That's actually a 369 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: great point. And then you see two people like you know, 370 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: Maxine Waters when she goes to Minneapolis, like they have 371 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: security around them. So you know, so the city was 372 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: at the city Council. I'm trying to just off of 373 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: memory alone, I think maybe Minneapolis like they had security. 374 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: So it's like clearly like the concept of being able 375 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: to protect yourself is something that these people understand in 376 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: yet they don't want the folks at home to be 377 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: able to have the same level of protection. Like the 378 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg groups, like the Mom's Demand and all those groups. 379 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: They hired private security, and they like to say that 380 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: it's different from having police or themselves having firearms, but 381 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: ultimately it's a form of class warfare when you're telling 382 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: average Americans that you don't trust them enough to be 383 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: able to defend themselves, and you're not going to allow 384 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: them to have police. You're going to defund their police 385 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: so that no one's there to protect them. So what 386 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: they're just you know, up a creek unless they can 387 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: hire private security. I mean that is that is some 388 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: of the classes one of the classest things I've ever 389 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: heard of, and I and I wish that that lawmakers 390 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: would actually call that out a little bit more because 391 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, it's and that's exactly what the 392 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's of the world think in these anti gun activists. 393 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they'll hire private security all day long. Well, 394 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, the regular people, we can't afford the kind 395 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: of detail that these people get, and we don't have 396 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: that Bloomberg money. So it really is it's also a 397 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: form of class warfare. But how do you think these 398 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: false narratives get born? Because, like even on the police debate, 399 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: I was looking at the numbers from the Washington Post. 400 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: So the one thousand twenty one people that the police 401 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: shot and killed, it's something like forty four almost forty 402 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: percent were white. The vast majority had a gun. It's 403 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: over you know, sixty percent had a handgun that were 404 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: shot and killed. Only five percent were unarmed. Yet yet 405 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, we we see this complete false narrative being 406 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: born that somehow, you know, it's open season and an 407 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: unarmed you know, black men in the country, and that's 408 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: just not supported by the fact. So how do you 409 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: think these narratives and why do you think these narratives 410 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: get born and continue to get driven? What is it? 411 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: Something to the effect of I think Heather McDonald had 412 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: she had written a piece. She's great. Oh she's I 413 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: love her stuff. Her work is so good. She said that, 414 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: I think it's a police officers eighteen more times likely 415 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: to be killed as opposed to a police officer killing 416 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: an unarmed black suspect. And I mean those statistics, and 417 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: then when you look at the the population sizes of 418 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: different demographics in the United States, everything can't always be well, 419 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: it's because it's racist. It's racist. That's not to say 420 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: that racism doesn't exist in society, but the argument that 421 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: it's systemic, even in policing, just isn't supported by the facts. Now, 422 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: I do believe in systemic racism. I believe in systemic racism, 423 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: and the Democrat Party. I believe in systemic racism, and 424 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: all of these Democrats cities that seem to be the 425 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: only places that have these incidents. These Democrat mayors and 426 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: Democrat police chiefs that that right, the policing regulations and requirements, 427 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: the Democrat city council that determine when use of force 428 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: and it can be used for what they are the 429 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: people that craft the the boundaries for policing in these areas, 430 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: and it's always these areas that have these unfortunate tragic 431 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: cases or in some instance the tragic response to a 432 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: justified killing, because you know, like the the instance with 433 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: Macaya Bryant, you know that officer did everything textbook. He 434 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: stopped one woman from getting stabbed to death by another woman. 435 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: So I do believe that with regards to policing, I 436 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: do think that's when you see that systemic racism with 437 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: the Democrat politicians that write the rules and call the shots. Well, 438 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: it's also like you've got a lot of people profiting it. 439 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got the media likes, you know, they 440 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: want ratings, right, so crisis cells, You've got Black Lives 441 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: Matter leaders buying you know, multimillion dollar homes, and you 442 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: have politicians that want to divide for votes. And so 443 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: I think Americans really really need to look at, you know, 444 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: who profits off of all this in one way or another. Ah, Lisa, 445 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: that's such a great point. It's this cottage critical race 446 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: theory industry and the buying large mansions movement where now, 447 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you can be a 448 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: trained Marxist and and celebrate Marxism but yet engage in 449 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: the capitalistic endeavor of purchasing private property. It makes the 450 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: sense to me. But you know their situational Marxists. No 451 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: one's truly a Marxist. Everyone's a capitalist at heart. But 452 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: that that that them liking capitalism stops when it ceased 453 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: to benefit them personal any longer. But no to that point, 454 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: have you, and I'm sure you've seen this, these speakers 455 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: and these like presentations that have been given all around 456 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: the country by all of these like anti racist speakers, 457 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: people like Abraham Kendy and um some like I think 458 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: one one, one guy that we had in our district 459 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: was Dr Adolph Brown, which is not the name that 460 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: I can even make up. I mean, sometimes real life 461 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: is too little, too close on the nose, right, oh 462 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: my gosh, right, like doctor Adolph Brown. And they give 463 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: these presentations where they shame people and it's it's all 464 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: about equity over equality, equalities pass the new thing is 465 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: equity and uh systemic injustice throughout the entire United States, 466 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: and how the Republic needs to be deconstructed in the 467 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: entire country rebuilt. These people get thousands of dollars that 468 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: doctor Adolph Brown. He came to our school district that 469 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: dude got something like fifteen thousand dollars for a ninety 470 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: minute present patient about how everything's awful and the country 471 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: is horrible. I mean, this is a guy who's making 472 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: off a ninety minute presentation about how the country is bad. 473 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Only in America. Could that happen? It could not happen 474 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: anywhere else. And there are so many there's like a 475 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: cottage industry of this now, and so many people are profiting. 476 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: That's why I thought it was very interesting when you know, 477 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: some of these some of these individuals that have been 478 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: exploited by Black Lives Matter, for instance, have been calling 479 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: them out and saying, Okay, you guys are making a 480 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: lot of money, millions of dollars. Where is that money going. 481 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: It's not going to the communities that have been burned 482 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: and looted. It's not going to the communities that really 483 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: deserve it the most. It's not I mean, it's it's 484 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: not going anywhere any of those places. So so what 485 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: is this all about? And um, it's interesting because I 486 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: don't really see you know, the cable news cabal, with 487 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: the exception of one or two networks actually diving into that. Danna, 488 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: we need to take a quick break, and then I 489 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: want to hear all about that CNN town hall. Everyone 490 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: at home, stay with us. I want to talk about 491 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: that town hall in two thousand eighteen. For the folks 492 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: at home who didn't watch it, just take us through. 493 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it was you're basically set up like so 494 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: the title of it was stand Up Students of Marjorie 495 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: Stoneman Douglas Demand Action. So clearly just in the name 496 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: itself is sending a message. But sort of take the 497 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: like listeners through sort of how that set up, uh 498 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: you know, was conducted and kind of what happened. That 499 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: was a really hard time because we didn't really know 500 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: exactly what to expect with that. And I think, um, 501 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: this was the week right after the Parkland massacre and 502 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: it was on if I memory serves, that was on 503 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: It was on a Wednesday. I found out Tuesday that 504 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: I was. They told me that I needed to go 505 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: and that people were wanting there to be you know, 506 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: some sort of to a representation. And they told me 507 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: Tuesday that I was going to go. And when I 508 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: boarded the plane, uh, Wednesday, I they said that I 509 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: was going to be on stage. But I thought, you know, 510 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: it's like a town hall format, so I assumed that 511 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: it was that the stage would be oriented the way 512 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: that town halls usually are, where there's a bunch of 513 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: people that are sitting up there and then there are 514 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, one or two people in the middle speaking 515 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: or the moderators in the middle. Then when I got there, 516 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: I found out that I was going to be not 517 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: just on the stage, but on the stage speaking. And 518 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: then it wasn't until I got into their I guess 519 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: green room area that I found out that I was 520 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: going to be on with Scott Israel, who was the 521 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: at the time, the very corrupt sheriff, And it was, um, 522 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: it was something else. When we got there, it was 523 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: at this arena and I we were in this like 524 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: one little it was just myself and then a colleague 525 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: and my husband, and I I knew, I'm like, they're 526 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: they're putting me on with the sheriff. So I know 527 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: immediately that I'm going to be the whipping boy on 528 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: this that he's gonna I know he's gonna blame me, 529 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: So I wanted to see how hard he was gonna 530 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: go at me. So I was going to introduce myself 531 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: to him before we were on stage, together, so I 532 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: had that kept the door open, so everybody else had 533 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: the door closed, and I kept the door because I 534 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: wanted to see who was coming down the hallway. And 535 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: I saw him come with some deputies. And it was 536 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: really interesting because those deputies when they arrived with him, 537 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: they weren't they weren't walking with him, like, they weren't 538 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: talking like you know, normal co workers. Uh. The two 539 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: deputies spoke to each other, but they did not speak 540 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: to Scott Israel. So I went out there and I 541 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: introduced myself to Scott Israel and I said, you know, 542 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: I said, I'm Dana Lash, you know, I'm praying for 543 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: your community. And he looked at me. He's like, oh, yeah, 544 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: you're the gun lady. And he's like, yeah, no hard feelings. 545 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: And I thought, what, oh my god, theut thing to say. Yeah, 546 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: that's like the ifs and butts were Canady and nuts gay. 547 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, what a thing to say. And 548 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: I immediately knew it. I was like, yeah, he's gonna 549 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: be coming for me. So I went back into the 550 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: green room and I told my husband, I'm like, it's 551 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a brawl. It's gonna be an absolute brawl 552 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: and um and it and it was. It was interesting 553 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: because before we went out on stage, those two deputies 554 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: came back and they basically confided that they did not 555 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: like Scott Israel. Uh. They he was a horrible sheriff. 556 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: And then they asked that they could get a picture 557 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: and I as long as they wanted it, but they 558 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: didn't want me to share anything on social media, and 559 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: so I said, I'm not going to do that. But yeah, 560 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: it was even then there were cracks in the unity 561 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: of the police department. But Lisa, they treated it like 562 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: a ww event. Uh. They had like they had music playing. 563 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: Then they had Scott is Roel and all of the 564 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Democrat politicians because Marcot Rubio was there, but they didn't 565 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: ask him to get up. They had only the Democrats 566 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: get up and election year before the cameras were on 567 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: and really get the audience going. And then when the 568 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: cameras came on, the lights dimmed and they played an 569 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: in memoriam video and it was I mean, I was 570 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: watching media manipulation live at front row seat, right in 571 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: the middle of it, and they were trying to manipulate 572 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: everybody's emotions. And I when they had Marco Rubio out 573 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: there and he um is the one time that I 574 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: well on immigration with this a whole others jo I 575 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: was critical of him when he was starting to compromise 576 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: on universal background checks in that and it's a difficult 577 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: spot to be, it really is. And I know it's 578 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: hard to pass judgment on people when you know you 579 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: haven't been in that position. You're in the middle of 580 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: an arena full of thousands of people and they're screaming 581 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: at you, and it's a very hostile environment, and so 582 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's difficult. But when he started kind 583 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: of folding on that, my husband looked at me and 584 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: he was like, it just got that much harder for you. 585 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is you know, 586 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing that you could do in life that prepares 587 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: you for this. J school does not prepare you for this. 588 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: There's no political class, no policy class it's gonna get 589 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna get you ready for this. And it, I mean, 590 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: it was it was really um, it was something else. 591 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't I just when I get 592 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: in these positions, I just kind of I shut off 593 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: emotion and I'm just like, let's be very clinical about 594 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: this something, there's got to be an adult in the room. 595 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: And you know, before we even flew down, Like, I'm 596 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: a very sassy person obviously, and my biggest vice is 597 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: my mouth. So I you know, I tried to you know, 598 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm a faithful person and I really try to, you know, 599 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: improve myself and I try to do, uh as best 600 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: I can for the issues that I that I value 601 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: as much as they do. And I mean I was 602 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: on that flight and I legit prayed the entire way 603 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: down because I'm like, I mean, people know me, I am, 604 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm from the Ozarks, I'm a brawler. This is how 605 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm like, why is this situation happening? 606 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: And it was. I think it was because the spectacle 607 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: of it was so over the top, and I really 608 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: viewed CNN at that moment as a real enemy, the 609 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: way that they were manipulating people, at least the biggest 610 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: point of it after we after they killed me to 611 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: walk into black eyed Peas, let's get it started. And 612 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: that is not even a joke. Um, sorry, you know 613 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: it was. It was unbelievable. You're right. I was like, 614 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, are they is there gonna be a beer guy, 615 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: and that's not going to be in the stands like it. Really, 616 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: it was weird. It was so weird, and at one 617 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: point when I was sitting on stage, the thing that 618 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the biggest impression on me and I will never forget this, 619 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 1: and this is why I lost it on stage at Seapack, 620 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: because those remarks the next morning were not scripted. Um. 621 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: I watched as this mother got up and her daughter 622 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: was one of those who had been killed, and she 623 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: had this prepared statement and she had just been crying 624 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: and she was in such a fog of grief. It's 625 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: you could almost tell she didn't really know what she was, what, why, 626 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: where she even was, or what was happening. She was 627 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: just in such anguish and she was she had someone 628 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 1: next her, and she stood up. She just and it 629 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a political statement or anything, and she was just 630 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: remembering her daughter and talking about what happened. And I 631 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: watched as one of this as as this, as this 632 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: camera guy and this guy that was assisting him ran 633 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: over there and then kind of like crouched down and 634 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: kind of scowed it over so that they could zoom 635 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: right in her face and magnify her anguish and her 636 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: pain and and use that as like to of further 637 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: manipulate people. And they they splashed her anguish all over 638 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: televisions across America and that I will never ever be 639 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: able to forget that. And that was the moment. I've 640 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: always disliked the media, but that was when I knew 641 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: that I would never ever be I don't know if 642 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I could ever believe in a free press again after 643 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: I saw that. I really don't think I can. Um. 644 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: I really think it comes to the citizens balancing it out. 645 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: That's the citizens have to make it free. They have 646 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: to be the free press in a way, like you 647 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: know the militia. So I had I had to fly 648 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: immediately to d C after that event, and they did. 649 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: They were yelling, burn her and they were screaming and 650 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: someone at one point, Yeah, it was it was pretty bad. 651 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: The last smiling face that I saw when I went 652 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: on stage was one of the students there who works 653 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: actually I think he works in d C now, Jalen Martin. 654 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: The last smiling face that I saw, and he was 655 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: running up when I was getting ready to go on 656 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: that stage, and I thought he was going to throw something, 657 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: and I was just like, all right, just take it. 658 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: I mean that literally what I told myself. I mean 659 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: there was a woman. I had a three person detail, 660 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: and there was a woman who was trying to get 661 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: up on stage and get me, and my security detail 662 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: had to get her. And when I was going down 663 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: the steps exiting the stage, the steps there were like 664 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: metal stairs that you would roll up to the platform. 665 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: Um they were trying to pull those away, and the 666 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: security detail had to grab me. And I told my husband, 667 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: I said, no matter what happens, you can't do anything. 668 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: You have to choke back your reactive feelings. You have 669 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: to choke back that you're my husband. You have to 670 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: choke back all of this, and you have to what 671 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: happens has to happen. And he did not like that 672 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: because he had to sit next to Ted Deutsch, and 673 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: Ted Deutsch did not know that that was my husband 674 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: sitting next to him. All the horrible things that Ted 675 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: de Witch was saying when I was on stage, and 676 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: when I walked up there, Jalen Martin was the only 677 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: his life. I said, last smiling face that I saw, 678 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: and he ran up and I just kind of braced 679 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: myself and he was like, Mrs lash He's like they're 680 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: gonna take everything and you've got to stop it. And 681 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: I looked at him and I could not reconcile everything 682 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: happening with, you know, his sweet smiling face. And he 683 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: was wearing an Air Force shirt and I remember kind 684 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: of like stumbling out, like you know, or is someone 685 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: in your family and Air Force? And he said my 686 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: big brother and I was like, oh my gosh. And 687 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: then it made sense. You know, I'm like, this is 688 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, this is a family. It's committed to service 689 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: and they get it. And you know, I thanked him, 690 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: and we keep in we keep in touch and um. 691 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: But that I think it had I not seen Jalen, 692 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just like it was just 693 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: it was like a little extra bit of um. It 694 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: was courage protein, a little extra bump um. And then 695 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: to finish it out well when I had to fly 696 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: back to it or fly to d C because I 697 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: had to speak early. It was like I was before 698 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: the Vice president, so I had to be down there 699 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: when lights came on and I was on maybe four 700 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: hours of sleep and I had not had like an 701 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: adrenaline dump or anything at that point. That happened when 702 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: I was on stage. But you're exhausted afterwards, because coming 703 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: under that kind of you know, line of attack is exhausting. 704 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: And I went out up there. I had my little roombar, 705 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, and you know how at Leasta, how it 706 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: is you see the platform of media in the background, 707 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: in the background that everybody's back there. It's you know, 708 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: seen in MUSMC everybody. And I saw the CNN logo 709 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: and that's when I just departed from my remarks and 710 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: I was like, you people, and I don't regret a 711 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: single thing I said. Every syllable I said. I meant 712 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: every last drop of that syllable still to this day. 713 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: And they lost their minds over it. But it's true. 714 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: I watched as they wrenched every drop of pain out 715 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: of these people. I held no ill will for the 716 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: people in this auditorium. There were people who were who 717 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: were being used and abused by legacy media that is 718 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: supposed to report on their government for them, and that's 719 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: you know, and then what happened happened. Um, but that 720 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: was that was unbelievable. It was nothing can prepare you 721 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: for that. Really, That's that's insane. But I mean it's 722 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: it's it's to be expected, though, right, I mean, that's 723 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: the way where media operates these days, particularly CNN, But 724 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: I feel like the conversation around guns seems to be 725 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: one of the biggest places where there's just a lot 726 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: of misinformation that is put out by the media. What 727 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: do you think are the biggest misconceptions about gun owners 728 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: in America that get pushed by the media and the left. 729 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: I think the biggest misconception is that they're irresponsible people 730 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: who are bloodthirsty. I don't know any other group of 731 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: people who spend their days off or their weekends really 732 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: nice days, Like you know, we had some real nice 733 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: days in Texas recently and we were my husband and 734 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: I were at the range. I don't know anybody who 735 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: spends as much of their free time as they do 736 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: practicing and honing a skill set with the hope of 737 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: never having to use it. The only people I know 738 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: who do that are law abiding gun owners, because they 739 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: realize the significance of that piece of metal that they carry, 740 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: and they know what it means, and they know the 741 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: responsibility that comes with it. There is something incredibly sobering 742 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: the first time that you take someone to the range, 743 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: someone who's never fired a gun or you're in your 744 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: backyard or outdoor range or wherever, and they fire a 745 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: gun for the first time. Every myth is just is gone. 746 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: Every myth, every you know, misconception, every perception is gone. 747 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: And it's a very sobering thing. And when you get 748 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: your license to your to carry and you go through 749 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, before then you go through all the legal 750 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: aspects of it, and um it is, you realize how 751 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: serious it is. And so people, when faced with that 752 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: level of responsibility, they make sure that they have every 753 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: skill set possible to be able to um, you know, 754 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: if Heaven forbid they had to, you know, exercise that 755 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: right and defend themselves. They want to make sure that 756 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: they're equipped with every bit of skill that they that 757 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: they have to do it. I I there is not 758 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: a single personally so that I know who got their 759 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: license to care or their their concealed handgun license and 760 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: then said, Okay, that's it. I don't need to practice anymore. 761 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, my husband and I are at the range 762 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: when we're not gone for like a week traveling, we're 763 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: at the range like every week. Um. And then when 764 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: it's nice enough I like to go and do drills 765 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: at outdoor ranges that I can't do it indoor ranges, uh, 766 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: and and and run through all of that. And I 767 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: don't know anybody who doesn't do that. I mean, my 768 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: we've taken night courses to make sure that we are 769 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: able to be as good and accurate if we're using 770 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: like tack lights, and you know, we've got you know, 771 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: we're we're holding the pistol in one hand and attack 772 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: light on the other hand. I mean, we've I carry 773 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, in the event that you know, Heaven forbid that, uh, 774 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: there's something awful happens. And and I'm called to defend 775 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: myself from my loved ones. I mean people they take 776 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: they take medical kids, They just just in the event 777 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: because they that responsibility weighs on our shoulders so much. 778 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know anybody else that does that. I 779 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: don't know any other group that works so hard to 780 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: get so good at something that they never have to 781 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: put into action, except for lawful gun owners. And I 782 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: think that is the biggest misconception that the media pushes. Well, 783 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: I feel like another thing we see a lot on 784 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: the left is that these few to really hate conservative women, 785 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, so they say that they you know, they 786 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: prepared to be about women's rights. They prepared to be 787 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: supportive of strong women. But like, even just looking at 788 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: your story, so like you dropped out of college to 789 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: raise your first son, but and then you go on 790 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: to be on two hundred stations, broadcast nationally syndicated show 791 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: two hundred stations. I mean, you've made such a massive 792 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: name for yourself. You're such a success. You think that 793 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: you would be someone where they would be like, yeah, 794 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: like this woman has done something with her life. Uh, 795 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: and at least, you know, respect the fact that you've grown. 796 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: You know, you've grown your radio show and you've grown 797 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: a name for yourself. I mean that's not an easy 798 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: thing to do. Definitely not. And you know when I 799 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: when I first started out into this because I was 800 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: raised for a good portion of my life by a 801 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: single mom and we were broke as a joke. When 802 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, like we were, we were, 803 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: I was, I was a poor kid, but I wasn't 804 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: an unhappy kid. You know, I had. I had. I had, 805 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: Even with everything that went on in my life, I 806 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: still think that I did, you know, I had a 807 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: good childhood and when um, you know, I went to 808 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: college and I was actually studying print journalism. And now 809 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: it's all digital. Everything is digital. It's like a one 810 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: stop shop. But I used to think that. I used 811 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: to actually be ashamed of the fact that I never 812 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 1: went and got my bachelor's. I used to be ashamed 813 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: of the fact that, oh, I didn't go to an 814 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 1: Ivy League school, or because I I would have gone 815 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: to law school had I gotten enough scholarships scholarships to 816 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: afford it. I got scholarships to school, but you know, 817 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: law school something different entirely, and I used to I 818 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: used to feel ashamed of that and less than because 819 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: of that. And then I realized, you know, our society, 820 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: we used to love autodiet xts. We used to love 821 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: people who could who could educate, and they love knowledge 822 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: and they love to expand their understanding of things by 823 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: themselves without having to be fed information or guided by 824 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: any kind of authority figure or you know, a you know, 825 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: whether it's a professor in college or whatever. And I 826 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: think that that was one of the I think that's 827 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: one of the avenues, you know, when we were talking 828 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 1: about Marxism earlier, to get people to stop being self 829 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: reliant and to think that everything that means anything has 830 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: to be sanctioned by a higher entity. It has to 831 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 1: be sanctioned by government, it has to be sanctioned by 832 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: this particular type of university community college is good enough. 833 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: And and I just reject that out right. I mean, 834 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: there's some of the most successful people in this country. 835 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: If you look at Steve Jobs, if you look at 836 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, if you look at build if you look 837 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: at a lot of these people, um, you know they're autodietics. 838 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: They they uh, Mark Zuckerberg. There's there's no shame in 839 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: being self taught and self learned. In fact, that's kind 840 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: of like wrapped up into the you know, the American experience. 841 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: That's that's that's one of the things that you know, 842 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 1: our founders were kind of known for. And then they 843 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: go off and create something great. And I love the 844 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: fact that in this country there isn't one particular formula 845 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: for greatness. I love that because it talks. I mean 846 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: that just as a testament to the diversity of talent, 847 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: the diversity of skilled, the diversity of potential, and the 848 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: diversity of opportunity that people can grab and go on 849 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: and make something of nothing. And really, I think that 850 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: is so uniquely American and we should be proud of that. 851 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: And so, like I said, I used to be ashamed 852 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: of it, and I'm not anymore. It is what it is. 853 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm happy, I'm successful. I don't have debts, so you know, 854 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: I feel good. I think we put way too much 855 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: emphasis on college. I mean, I was a political science major. 856 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: I still don't really even know what that. It's like, 857 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: what's you know what I mean? I mean, sorry to 858 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: my parents, but it's like, you know, I think we 859 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: put way too much of emphasis. And that was beautifully said. 860 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: So I originally reached out to you because I I've 861 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: always been a fan of yours. I just think you're 862 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: awesome and you know, so smart and just such a badass, 863 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: which is so needed these days. But it was your article. 864 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: There's an article in Axios about sort of who might 865 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: take the mantle of the late Rush Limba, and your 866 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: quote was just incredible. It said, I like the competition, 867 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: and I'm the only woman that's doing it out of 868 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: all of these dudes. I still feel like I have 869 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: the biggest cigar, so to speak. So I saw that 870 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: and I read stout you and I was like, I 871 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: have to have you on my show. But you just 872 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: signed a multi year deal with Radio America, you know, 873 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: tell us about that. I'm sure people already know where 874 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: to find you, but where can they listen and tell 875 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: us more about this deal that you just signed. Yeah, well, 876 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: Dana lash dot com. And that's that's the kind of 877 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: the catch off sort of website. I do a newsletter 878 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: over at substract that I send out multiple times a week, 879 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: and then stations across the country. The archive of the 880 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: show is also the podcast of it, so if they 881 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: missed it live, they can they can go and listen 882 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: to it through whatever whatever they used to listen to podcasts. But, um, 883 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: you know, I love radio and I have a lot 884 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: of friends in radio, and I I always thought it 885 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: was funny whenever people were asking questions about this, because 886 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: they would ask me like, oh, so and so you 887 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: know your your friend you know, and they would mention 888 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't know a number of different names to me 889 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: and and I you know, they were always shocked that, 890 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: um it doesn't you know. I I think that competition 891 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: and so many choices benefits the people who are seeking out, 892 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, they're looking for commentary or there 893 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, how whatever they're looking for. Um, I think 894 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: that's beneficial. I mean, isn't that also part of the 895 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: American experience that you know, we have this many choices 896 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: and I love that. And I you know, I tell 897 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: this to these reporters and they just don't understand. They're like, 898 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: what you mean, It's just it's it's it's like, you know, 899 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I I love friendly competition, and in fact, 900 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think I would be a worse broadcaster 901 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: without it. Um. I really, you know, it's like when 902 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: I when I see my friends doing well, I'm like, 903 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of them. And at the same time, 904 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: I have no shame in admitting, you know, I wish 905 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: I could do that, and it drives me to be better. 906 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: And I'm grateful for that because I think that having 907 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: all those people, you know, if we all make each 908 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: other better and and that's a great thing. And it's 909 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: something that some of these reporters could not understand. Um. 910 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, I like working with the guys 911 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: at Radio America and I love I love doing what 912 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: I do. Radio is so fun. I mean, there's there's 913 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: so much theater of the mind that you can do. 914 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: I actually like radio better than television. Um, it's just 915 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: it's just so fun and it does feel like you're 916 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: having a very intimate conversation with people because there's nothing 917 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: but you and the mic, and that's there's something magical 918 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: about that when they're your broadcast on nearly two d stations. 919 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, did you ever like looking back on young Dana? 920 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure it's pretty heavy to be in 921 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: this situation you are and to have, you know, sort 922 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 1: of reached the level of success you have. It's well 923 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: and I thank you for that. I there and there 924 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: are a lot of people on the way that I 925 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: have been so helpful. And you know, I wouldn't be 926 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: able to do any of this if I didn't have 927 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: my husband, who he was the one who encouraged me 928 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: actually be getting radio. Oh my gosh. I hated it. 929 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: I hated it with the burning passion of a thousand 930 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: sons because I had always written and uh, I did 931 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: a newspaper column and there was, you know, controversy because 932 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: it involves Second Amendment and keeping guns in the hall. 933 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: And I ended up on a morning program on radio 934 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: and St. Louis and they asked if I would consider 935 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: doing after some some guest call ins if I would 936 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: consider doing a Sunday night show, and I thought they 937 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: were nuts. So I told him no for like six months, 938 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: and my husband's like, okay, come on, chriss, like, just 939 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: just consider it. Just do it for you know, like 940 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks and see if you like that. Well. 941 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: I did it for a couple of weeks and I 942 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: hated it. I was I tried to script out my 943 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: whole show and like, this is awful. I hate this. 944 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a radio person. And he's like, just stick 945 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: with it, just two more weeks, and then I kind 946 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: of was like all right, you know, because it really 947 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 1: does feel like you're talking to people and that you're 948 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, you're sitting there with them. I mean, it's weird. 949 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: And that's how it ultimately started. And I never would 950 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: have thought ten years ago, even even more so, if 951 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: you said, like, you're gonna your your career is going 952 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: to be in broadcasting, I would have thought that was 953 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, really twenty years ago, I would have thought, 954 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: that's the craziest thing I've ever heard, and I would 955 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: have laughed and that would have been the end of it. 956 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: But you know, it's Uh, it never amazes me where 957 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: the path can take you. Sometimes. That is kind of 958 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: crazy about life. It's like, you know, we always have 959 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 1: our sort of preset idea is about what the future 960 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: whole and the inevitably find ourselves in, you know, a 961 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: completely different arena. Right, Yeah, No, that's I mean, that's 962 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: exactly it. And it's a lot of fun and you 963 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: just gotta be open to it. And I just now 964 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: I'm finally kind of learning, like, all right, I'm not 965 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna find it anymore. Where do I go next? That's 966 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: there we go. Um, but it's um. I I do 967 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: enjoy it in there, and I work with some really 968 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: great people that make it even more enjoyable, especially the 969 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: days when it's a little bit much. Um. But as 970 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, so it's good to have good people with you. 971 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: Any advice to young women who look up to you 972 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: and and maybe want to try to follow a similar 973 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: career path. Never be ashamed of who you are. Be authentic, 974 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: don't be afraid to be to be feminine, and I 975 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: don't mean that in like a stereotypical way. Don't be 976 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: afraid to be vulnerable, don't think, don't be afraid to 977 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: open yourself up and and don't be afraid, um of 978 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: of And I realized some people are afraid I think 979 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 1: of authent not of authenticity, not for shallow purposes, because 980 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: they think that it makes them vulnerable and it opens 981 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: them up to maybe smears or something like that. And 982 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 1: just don't worry about that, because people are attracted to genuineness, 983 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: and if you are able to sit down and tell 984 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: a good story, people will be drawn to that. A 985 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: great message. And I agree, I mean, I think and 986 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: I think to in our business, people can really sort 987 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: of for whatever reason and really see you, you know, 988 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: so clearly. And so if you try to be something 989 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: you're not, people sort of catch wind of it, you know, 990 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: So you really just have to be yourself and own it. 991 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: But so I've been trying to in these podcasts lately 992 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: because you know, the world's pretty heavy as a conservative 993 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: right now, right you know, it's it's it's a pretty 994 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: scary place. I know a lot of people who are 995 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: listening have a lot of concerns about the future. You 996 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: leave us with some optimism about you know, where you 997 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: see the future going, or just leave us. I've been 998 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: trying to end with a little bit of optimism and 999 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: some hope for America. I was cracking up over this 1000 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: um the other night because I was writing this piece 1001 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: and prepping for radio uh concerning this this case that's 1002 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: going to be going before the Supreme Court this fall 1003 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: about the Second Amendment, New York Right Full and Pistol Association. 1004 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: And so I was doing research on, uh, everything that 1005 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: had to do with regulation of militias, because I was 1006 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: curious who actually came up with like some of their 1007 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: early plans and practices, standards and practices from militias. And 1008 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: I ended up finding a bunch of reading a bunch 1009 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: of letters. I've read every George Washington biography I think 1010 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: that there is, and I came across a collection of 1011 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: letters like this was in the very early days, and 1012 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: he was writing letters to this letter to John Hancock, 1013 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: and I hadn't read this one yet, and it was 1014 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: it was actually it was so funny because he was 1015 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 1: he was bitching and moaning. Washington was in this letter. 1016 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 1: Because the colonists who formed the militias, and they did 1017 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: all of this without permission of Continental Congress. They just 1018 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: did it because they need it needed to be done. 1019 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: He could. They were so incorrigible and so independent that 1020 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: it was difficult for Washington to actually get them to 1021 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: form an army so that we could actually take on 1022 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: the Red coats. And there was something about that that 1023 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: I just it just cracked me up. And so I was, 1024 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, thinking about this today with some of these 1025 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, the headlines and talking about the school battles 1026 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: and the encroaching Marxism. No matter how bad it gets, 1027 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 1: I think that there are too many people have tasted freedom. 1028 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: Too many people love the thrill of independence, and they 1029 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: love that thrill of liberty, and they love seeing what 1030 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: they can accomplish on their own. And no matter how 1031 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: much Marxism is implemented or how much how hard they 1032 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: try to push, you will never ever. Once someone tastes freedom, 1033 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: just to taste there's no going back. That's it, and 1034 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: that's that that create that's an animating spirit of liberty. 1035 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about all of this. You know, 1036 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: here they had all the odds against them, and you 1037 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: had these incur incorrigible, cranky colonists who brought their own 1038 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: guns and they had to enlist, and you know, Washington 1039 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: washed George Washington, he was struggling and asking for advice 1040 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: and how he's going to be able to get these 1041 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: guys to form one entity. And I don't know that 1042 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: just I just love that and I think that that 1043 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: that spirit absolutely still exists and is at the core 1044 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: of who we are as Americans today. So I hope 1045 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: that people can take something from that. I love that. 1046 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: And actually, I'm glad you brought up the Supreme Court 1047 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: case because I wanted to ask you that, but we 1048 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: started talking about other things and I forgot what I 1049 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: do want. But yeah, so so you know, I I know, 1050 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: I kind of said that was the last question, but 1051 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So so they're taking Yeah, I'm like what 1052 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about that. So they're examining 1053 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: a New York law borrowing people from carrying guns outside 1054 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: of their homes. You know, are you optimistic about the 1055 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: potential outcome or where do you think that goes. I'm 1056 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: trying to be cautiously optimistic because I'm such a cynic 1057 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: and I know that there have been a lot of 1058 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: second amenic cases that I think, what's been thirteen years 1059 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: since Heller and the Supreme Court really hasn't heard a 1060 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: big which could this could be a landmark second amentent case. Too, 1061 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: and I know in some of the lower courts it 1062 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: hasn't been you know, completely contend sunshine for a Second 1063 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: Amendment rights. Uh. The thing that that what that I 1064 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,479 Speaker 1: kept centering on was the question that was presented because 1065 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: they went from they went from determining whether or not 1066 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: the government could deprive ordinary law byting citizens of the 1067 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: right to possess and carry him going outside the home. 1068 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: That was the question presented in December, to the way 1069 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: that it that it's a limited sirt that was granted. 1070 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: The way that they set it in uh with the 1071 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court announcement, is whether the state's denial of a 1072 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,280 Speaker 1: petitioner's application for concealed carry licenses for self defense violated 1073 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: the Second Amenment because New York was staying, you gotta 1074 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: you gotta have proper cause and prove it to us, 1075 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're if you're saying self defense, 1076 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: you gotta prove it. What what do you mean you 1077 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: need it for self defense? And so I'm wondering if 1078 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 1: this is just going to be an end of May issue, 1079 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's going to be shell issue from you know, 1080 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to go so far as 1081 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: to nationalized constitutional carry or anything like that. But the 1082 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: way that the question was modified I thought was very 1083 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,240 Speaker 1: interesting because it was it was a lot more narrowed 1084 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: and scope. But maybe, um, maybe that's for a reason. 1085 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: You know. I I always come at these Supreme Court 1086 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: decisions forgetting that you know, we've and I don't know why. 1087 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean to that we have Amy Coney Barrett, 1088 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: And I think my perspective has always been, oh my gosh, 1089 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: we have that John Roberts. We gotta worry about how 1090 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,479 Speaker 1: are we how is this gonna But now that she's 1091 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: been you know, she's been sworn into the black robe, 1092 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: so to speak. Um, I don't I don't think that 1093 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: we have to worry about that as much. So, I mean, 1094 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm cautiously optimistic. And I know that people like Clarence Thomas, 1095 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: especially when he was blasting the Court for not taking 1096 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: up Johnson and be Alabama and treating the Second Amendment 1097 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: as this disfavorited right. I know that that they had 1098 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: Heller and that was about to keep and the New 1099 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: York Rifle and Pistol Association v. Corlette could be that 1100 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna affirm and bear. So you're gonna have those 1101 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 1: those compliments, that full thing there that will be determined. 1102 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: So I'm cautiously optimistic. So that's good. So we will 1103 00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: end on too optimistic notes. Yeah, for the future, people, 1104 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: we will we will keep fighting and I know you will. 1105 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: And Dana, it was so awesome to talk to you. 1106 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you making the time and uh, we're 1107 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: so fun. Yeah, this is really fun. Well so are you. 1108 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: And I'm a huge fan, so I really appreciate you 1109 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: taking the time. This was a pleasure and anytime I'll 1110 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 1: take the time. We need to go grab a drink 1111 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 1: next time we're in the same cities. Absolutely, or drinks, 1112 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever. I like the plural word exactly awesome, 1113 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: thanks day, and I appreciate it, of course, Thank you 1114 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: so much. Absolutely fabulous. I want to thank Dana Lash 1115 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 1: again for such an awesome interview, so much fun getting 1116 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: to know her a little bit better and talking about 1117 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: her life and her career. She's again such a badass. 1118 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: I have so much respect for her. And again I 1119 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: want to thank you guys at home for listening. If 1120 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: you enjoy today's show, if you enjoy this podcast us, 1121 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: please please please leave us a review and give us 1122 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: five stars on Apple Podcasts. You can also find me 1123 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at at lesa read Booth. I 1124 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: want to thank our team producer John Cassio, writer Aaron Kleigman, 1125 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: researcher Margaret Smith, and our executive producers Debbie Myers and 1126 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: Speaker New Gingridge, who are all part of the Gingridge 1127 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: three sixty network and team