Speaker 1: Hey, Sabrina, Hey you will.
Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 3: We're doing something a little different today, same but different,
Speaker 3: different but same.
Speaker 1: I am so ready. I am ready for this one.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for this one. I'm so excited because you
Speaker 1: haven't seen this movie before.
Speaker 3: I'm convinced that's why our lovely producers picked this one.
Speaker 2: It had nothing to do with actually recapping this film.
Speaker 2: It was just making me watch the movie. I think
Speaker 2: what this week was about. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think this could actually really
Speaker 1: be the reason is all of us knew you needed
Speaker 1: this in your life, and it was just unbelievable, gone
Speaker 1: pretty pleasures without it, which is insane.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing that was really amazing to me is
Speaker 3: this the random connections that I've had.
Speaker 2: I have with this movie too.
Speaker 1: I know, I so yeah, But we got to tell everyone.
Speaker 2: About it, get into it. We will get into it. First.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you
Speaker 3: want to grab your friends, your PJS, and your popcorn
Speaker 3: and go back to a time when all the houses
Speaker 3: were smart, the.
Speaker 2: Waves, tsunamis, and the high school's musical. I'm Sabrina, Bryan
Speaker 2: and ah see, I gotcha and I will pronounce you
Speaker 2: go reverse that.
Speaker 3: By the way, everybody, thank you, and now don't put
Speaker 3: away that putrid pumpkin just yet, no matter how rotten
Speaker 3: it is. Now in November, keep that gore nearby, because
Speaker 3: we're diving into a cult classic spookfest, a movie that
Speaker 3: flopped when originally released in theaters and has since become
Speaker 3: a major holiday mainstay. We're jumping right into Yes, it's
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety threes. I think I'm pronouncing this right, hocus
Speaker 3: pocaias my son is hocus Pocus. Yes, were you excited?
Speaker 2: Were you excited?
Speaker 1: So excited? I actually just watched this movie for the
Speaker 1: first time with my kids. Uh, two weeks ago. I
Speaker 1: guess it was right before Halloween.
Speaker 2: Wait have you never seen it either?
Speaker 1: No, I mean I've just watched. I introduced them. Oh,
Speaker 1: but I was a little worried. Is it a little
Speaker 1: too scary for them? You know, they're still pretty little,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to make sure. Of course, our
Speaker 1: producers said absolutely not, you can go ahead and have
Speaker 1: them watch it. I did, and they loved it. They
Speaker 1: loved it.
Speaker 2: It is a little scary, though, I can imagine for
Speaker 2: little kids.
Speaker 1: It is actually It's funny because they loved it then,
Speaker 1: and then when I was rewatching it again this weekend
Speaker 1: or just a few days ago, I guess Monroe goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like that movie. It was scary, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you did freak out once while we were watching it,
Speaker 1: But I think her memory of it is the scary part.
Speaker 2: Sure, Oh no, I get that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know this is also one of the studio's
Speaker 3: biggest surprises of all time. Apparently, so well. I mean,
Speaker 3: your kids are big, We've talked about this. Your whole
Speaker 3: family is massive Halloween fans.
Speaker 1: Yes, we love Halloween. Love the dress, love the love
Speaker 1: the family picks. They're my favorite of the year, pretty
Speaker 1: much better than our holiday card picks. Probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so funny. So are we calling this an
Speaker 2: official dcom? I mean again, it's not so.
Speaker 1: Not it's not it was it was in theaters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a Disney movie that we're recapping Disney movie.
Speaker 1: But we had a really special guest that we talked
Speaker 1: quite a bit about it with. So it makes sense
Speaker 1: for us here on Magical Rewind to go ahead and rewatch.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, I get it, but not I get it.
Speaker 3: And it would also be impossible to enter a Halloween
Speaker 3: store in twenty twenty five and not notice a ton
Speaker 3: of hocus Pocus products, which is a feat in itself,
Speaker 3: because when it was first released in theaters on July sixth,
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three, it got mixed reviews from critics, to
Speaker 3: say the least, and was a certified box office bomb,
Speaker 3: reportedly losing the studio over fifteen million dollars, which in
Speaker 3: ninety ninety three are money now is eighteen point seven
Speaker 3: billion dollars.
Speaker 2: That's not accurate.
Speaker 3: I just made up that calculation, but fifteen million dollars
Speaker 3: back the day was a lot, which at the time
Speaker 3: was considered a real fumble considering the big names, the
Speaker 3: cost and the main cast.
Speaker 2: Critic Gene Siskel said.
Speaker 3: The movie was focused on quote dreadful witches and the
Speaker 3: only tolerable moment came when Bette Midler's sang, that's a
Speaker 3: bit of a stretch. Also, if you think we're releasing
Speaker 3: a Halloween movie in July sounds odd, that's because it is.
Speaker 2: It is odd.
Speaker 3: Disney's strategy there was to avoid competition in the October space,
Speaker 3: but obviously that itself did not pay off, but thanks
Speaker 3: to seasonal and repeated airings of the movie every Halloween
Speaker 3: on both the Disney Channel and free Form. It's found
Speaker 3: its audience not just in consumer products, but home media sales,
Speaker 3: allegedly a million dollars profit every October.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: It birthed.
Speaker 3: The franchise has since spond a sequel, novelization attractions at
Speaker 3: theme parks, and the sequel that we talked about before
Speaker 3: was released thirty years later in twenty twenty two. At
Speaker 3: one time, the movie lost fifteen million for Disney, but
Speaker 3: has since racked up almost sixty million in DVD and
Speaker 3: Blu ray sales. Also, I think it has officially been
Speaker 3: announced that Pocus three is in production.
Speaker 1: We just recently saw that. That's incredible. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for that, Okay.
Speaker 3: The concept for hocus Pocus was originally created by producer
Speaker 3: David Kirshner, who explains that he was sitting outside with
Speaker 3: his young daughter when a black cat walked by, and
Speaker 3: he quickly improved a story about the feline, inventing the
Speaker 3: Sanderson Sisters and the Winifred Brood. The movie then originally
Speaker 3: began production in nineteen eighty four and had the working
Speaker 3: title Disney's Halloween House and was reportedly much much scarier,
Speaker 3: less comedy, more jumps, and funny enough. They shot some
Speaker 3: of those scary scenes but didn't use them in the movie. However,
Speaker 3: they're scene in the trailer if you ever want to
Speaker 3: watch those deep cuts, including a scene.
Speaker 2: In a supermarket. And in case you.
Speaker 3: Wondered if a Halloween movie is easy to make with
Speaker 3: the happiest studio on earth, well it stalled for years
Speaker 3: and years and years until Bette Midler, or a little
Speaker 3: actress of her day, expressed interest in a role originally
Speaker 3: written for Chloris Leachman, and then it was of course
Speaker 3: fast tracked into production. Now this should come as absolutely
Speaker 3: no surprise, but the movie was not only shot in Salem, Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: It was predominantly shot at sound stages in a slightly
Speaker 3: less witchy burbank, California. But they did film for two
Speaker 3: weeks in Salem, and that's why you see all those
Speaker 3: outdoor daytime shots with realistic surroundings, including the actors' locations
Speaker 3: like Pioneer Village, Old Burial Hill, and Max and Danny's House,
Speaker 3: which have since all become landmarks for fans to visit
Speaker 3: on vacation, kind of like the Cheetah Girls when people
Speaker 3: go to Spain. One of my favorite fun facts about
Speaker 3: this movie they had a choreographer for the musical numbers,
Speaker 3: even with a dance legend for a director. Her name
Speaker 3: was Peggy Holmes, and she also worked with each Sanderson's
Speaker 3: sister so that they could quote unquote fly their brooms
Speaker 3: in character. Winnifred was more aggressive, Mary was more cautious
Speaker 3: and horny. Sarah just loves to fly. Hocus Pocus and
Speaker 3: a sequel are available to watch right now in Disney Plus.
Speaker 3: So unless you throw your remote into a cauldron, say
Speaker 3: hocus Pocus three times and burn down your house, you
Speaker 3: see the Watch it now or later up to you.
Speaker 3: But that's the sacred oath we've all taken together, so
Speaker 3: we must have hunted it above all else. I think
Speaker 3: this goes without saying that we both knew pocus Pocus
Speaker 3: before Magical Rewind.
Speaker 2: But maybe the question is how many times have you
Speaker 2: seen it? Wow?
Speaker 1: I'd like to say it's pretty close, especially I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like in my twenties is when I really
Speaker 1: really got into it, and I feel like I've seen
Speaker 1: it almost every year around Halloween Town or free time,
Speaker 1: almost around Halloween Town around Halloween time. But I feel
Speaker 1: like the last since I've had kids, No, so before
Speaker 1: that those you know, okay, that good. Like decade, I
Speaker 1: was watching it at least once, if not a couple
Speaker 1: of times during the Halloween season. It's so good.
Speaker 2: I've seen it once now, a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: It was good. Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 3: So whether you're Jay or Ice or two of the
Speaker 3: worst lamest bullies in the history of film, get your
Speaker 3: act together and prepare for the synopsis. The Sanderson Sisters,
Speaker 3: three mischievous seventeenth century witches, are accidentally resurrected in modern
Speaker 3: day Salem in order to steal the life force of
Speaker 3: local children. A skeptical team, his crush, his little sister,
Speaker 3: and an immortal black cat team up to stop them
Speaker 3: before sunrise. Early thoughts on hocus Pocus. I think we
Speaker 3: already know this. You said you loved it.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved love, loved it, And it
Speaker 1: was so great this last year to now have seen
Speaker 1: it twice after I haven't seen it in so long
Speaker 1: and always kind of get a little bit surprised, Like
Speaker 1: there were certain things as we were going through the
Speaker 1: movie that I saw the first time and was writing
Speaker 1: down while I watched it this second time, of I
Speaker 1: forgot that just within a couple of years of not
Speaker 1: watching it. Oh okay, And they kind of just kept
Speaker 1: coming in the very beginning and then I settled in
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed a great movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was good.
Speaker 2: Definitely thought it was good.
Speaker 3: This has been so built up for me over the
Speaker 3: years that unless it was Citizen Kane, it was never
Speaker 3: ever going to meet the expectations that everyone put in
Speaker 3: my head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was a good movie. Again, I definitely
Speaker 2: liked it, but it was so built up for me
Speaker 2: that it couldn't possibly have been as good as everybody says.
Speaker 2: The three women phenomenal. I mean cool Disney villain, like
Speaker 2: old school Cruella de Ville kind of Disney villains, and
Speaker 2: the top Denny's.
Speaker 1: I would say, one thing that I think sticks out
Speaker 1: about this movie is absolutely knowing Kenny's like artistic touch
Speaker 1: was put on this with from the walk that the
Speaker 1: three girls do together, there's there's just some choreography moments
Speaker 1: in it, a lot of the working with the you know,
Speaker 1: around the Witch's house when they're going when when we're
Speaker 1: in there is so Kenny, and it just like kept
Speaker 1: pop being out at me now that we've seen so
Speaker 1: many of Kenny's things.
Speaker 3: And their house was awesome and they just all the
Speaker 3: like the locations were really cool.
Speaker 1: Yes, Disney, but it's like 's kiss on.
Speaker 3: It as one hundred percent uh so, as Sabrina said,
Speaker 3: it was directed by a good friend of the show.
Speaker 2: The Man, the myth, the legend. Kenny Ortega, a literal
Speaker 2: Disney Hall of.
Speaker 3: Famer, began his career as one of the most successful
Speaker 3: choreographers of all time.
Speaker 2: You know the list.
Speaker 3: This is like talking about Stu Krieger stuff, working with
Speaker 3: musicians like Madonna and Michael Jackson and contributing to movies
Speaker 3: like Dirty Dancing in Ferris Peeler's Day Off.
Speaker 2: And then he entered his final form, iconic director.
Speaker 3: He's led the way on Newsies, Cheaty Girls Too, the
Speaker 3: High school musical movies, and then the new cash cow
Speaker 3: that is the descendant series. Hocus Pocus was Kenny's second
Speaker 3: directorial job.
Speaker 2: His first another Disney classic Newsies Wow, which I also
Speaker 2: can you believe that I haven't seen Newsies either.
Speaker 1: That's not true.
Speaker 2: You have never seen Newsies that's the one with Christian
Speaker 2: Bale where they're all singing. Yes. Never seen Newsies. I
Speaker 2: did not like. Are you not understanding that I didn't
Speaker 2: like musicals?
Speaker 1: But it's that's so different? Why usies?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: How is it a musical?
Speaker 2: Yes? Then how is it different? Yes? And there's around.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of the musical stuff that.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get better.
Speaker 3: I'm again descendants and and zombies. I'm there all day long,
Speaker 3: so I'm trying to get better. But no, I haven't
Speaker 3: seen Newsies. This movie, as we've been talking about, is
Speaker 3: star studded. The Hollywood legend that got everything in motion,
Speaker 3: of course is Bett Midler. She played Winifred Sanderson, the
Speaker 3: double threat, triple threat, quadruple threat, however you want to
Speaker 3: put it, because she's awesome at everything. Is a three
Speaker 3: time Grammy winner and a two time Oscar nominee whose
Speaker 3: biggest movies include Beaches. Never seen that, but I hear
Speaker 3: it's just a bunch of people on the beach First
Speaker 3: Wives Club, which is great and ruthless people. She is
Speaker 3: one of the biggest names of her generation, absolutely full stop.
Speaker 3: We've got Early in her career, Sarah Esca Parker as
Speaker 3: Sarah Sanderson. This was well before she became a household
Speaker 3: name as Carrie Bradshaw and Sex and the City, a
Speaker 3: show I once unfortunately watched with my mother, and boy was.
Speaker 2: That an uncomfortable alb.
Speaker 3: She had appeared in movies like Girls Just Want to
Speaker 3: Have Fun, great movie, Flight of the Navigator, great movie,
Speaker 3: and with a breakout role in La Story unbelievable movie,
Speaker 3: and Honeymoon in Vegas. She would later co star again
Speaker 3: with Midler in First Wives Club and go on to
Speaker 3: two Emmys and six Golden Globes.
Speaker 2: And then we have Katheen to Jimmy as Mary Sanderson.
Speaker 3: The role was originally offered to Rosie O'Donnell, who turned
Speaker 3: it down, saying she wasn't interested in playing a quote fat,
Speaker 3: mean witch who eats and kills kids.
Speaker 2: Unquote. Well that's a point well taken.
Speaker 3: She would later say she loved the film and wish
Speaker 3: she could have worked with Midler and Parker, but it
Speaker 3: just wasn't in the cards. Now, Jimmy had just come
Speaker 3: off a huge turn in the Blockbuster's Sister Act, and
Speaker 3: it just compiled the list of an uncountable amount of credits.
Speaker 2: Some of the Highlights. She's the voice of Peggy Ill
Speaker 2: on King of the Hill.
Speaker 3: She played Olive on Veronica's Closet, and recently was Wendy
Speaker 3: Keegan on theep Omrits. Played Max Denison. Not only did
Speaker 3: he go to elementary school with producer Jensen, but he
Speaker 3: played John ross Ewing on the TV show Dallas and
Speaker 3: would later star in the cult TV show Eerie Indiana,
Speaker 3: also with Jason Marsden. He stopped acting in two thousand
Speaker 3: and did not appear in the sequel. He does, however,
Speaker 3: appear at fan conventions regularly and then Familiar but a
Speaker 3: very young faced Thora Birch is Danny Denison. Thora was
Speaker 3: a child actor who starred in movies like Now and Then,
Speaker 3: Monkey Trouble and Clear and Present Danger. Then continued to
Speaker 3: be in great movies like Ghost World and American Beauty.
Speaker 3: More recently, she was on the TV show The Walking
Speaker 3: Dead and stars in the new Kristen Stewart directorial debut,
Speaker 3: The Chronology of War with Image in Poots. Some other
Speaker 3: names worth mentioning. Doug Jones is Billy Butcherson. This was
Speaker 3: his first real movie role, but man he turned into
Speaker 3: an obscure character actor usually covered in makeup and prosthetics,
Speaker 3: and he's turned it into an incredibly impressive career alongside
Speaker 3: director Guilleromo del Toro. Jones has been in Hellboy, Pans, Labyrinth,
Speaker 3: and the Shape of Water, and he also played Barren
Speaker 3: on What We Do in the Shadows.
Speaker 2: Literally has never stopped working. I don't think he's sleeping.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And now for the cat Thackeray Banks, it was now
Speaker 3: this is where we get to the Will's life. It
Speaker 3: was physically played by Sean Murray, who in adulthood he
Speaker 3: has gone on to be in almost five hundred episodes
Speaker 3: of NCIS's Timothy McGee. But at the time, Disney did
Speaker 3: that like his voice while editing, so they hired a
Speaker 3: name very familiar to me, tgif regular Jason Marsden to
Speaker 3: come in and dub it over, which was a real
Speaker 3: common movie theme in the eighties and the nineties that
Speaker 3: you don't see anymore now. The thing that's weird is
Speaker 3: I was at both of their weddings. Is that strange?
Speaker 2: Whoa well? Cause?
Speaker 3: Shawan and I did random rrs together and became friendly.
Speaker 3: He's a great guy and Marsden and I not anymore,
Speaker 3: but were friends for years. And years and years, So
Speaker 3: it was wow, Yeah, to see them and it it was.
Speaker 1: Strange, it was I probably wouldn't have picked up on that.
Speaker 1: I think you had either mentioned it before or I'd
Speaker 1: read it before. I'm not sure, but you realize that's
Speaker 1: happening immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like the voice doesn't fit in the
Speaker 2: mouth flaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It doesn't seem like it could be his voice,
Speaker 1: like at all, you know what I mean, not just
Speaker 1: not necessarily SYNCD up. It just doesn't seem like it
Speaker 1: could be his voice for some reason, which is crazy
Speaker 1: because I couldn't pick the actor's voice out of anything
Speaker 1: but Sean's voice.
Speaker 3: So well, you know, again, I haven't seen him in
Speaker 3: a couple of years now, but we were friends for
Speaker 3: years and years and years, and he's a great guy
Speaker 3: and you know, still friendly. So the second he opens
Speaker 3: his mouth and I hear I'm staring at one of
Speaker 3: my friends and hear somebody else that I've known my
Speaker 3: entire life, it's like it was very odd and it.
Speaker 2: Just it didn't fit. It just didn't fit.
Speaker 3: So I'm curious, and I mean, they couldn't do both obviously,
Speaker 3: because the cat is supposed to be the guy, so
Speaker 3: it had to be one voice the entire way. But
Speaker 3: I would love to have seen what Sean did. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because it's interesting that they didn't like his voice. I
Speaker 3: would like to have seen what Sean did. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: the whole thing anyway.
Speaker 1: I was also focused on the wig.
Speaker 2: Was that I never noticed that stuff, but those was
Speaker 2: that a wig?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: You couldn't tell when it was just his front, like
Speaker 1: when you just saw the front, that was his hair,
Speaker 1: but there was some type of peace in the back
Speaker 1: to have him have a ponytail. And I didn't understand
Speaker 1: why that neat except for it to be kind of
Speaker 1: time period.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's period. Yeah, but like it.
Speaker 1: It didn't.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work for you. I couldn't get over it.
Speaker 2: Couldn't get over it. God, that's so fun. Like it did?
Speaker 1: I get over it? Then I look at myself and go,
Speaker 1: why can't you get over stupid?
Speaker 2: Just get over the head over.
Speaker 3: I am the master at holding onto stupid, so don't
Speaker 3: even start with me.
Speaker 2: It's brilliant.
Speaker 3: There are people that wronged me in the second grade
Speaker 3: that I will still never speak to, so I'm the
Speaker 3: master of it. It's great, I know there's been a
Speaker 3: lot of setup for this one, but hey, it's hocus Pocus.
Speaker 3: So now we get to the real question of the
Speaker 3: entire genre of the franchise.
Speaker 2: Of my life. How long is it?
Speaker 3: Hocus Pocus clocks in at ninety six minutes. Oh, it's
Speaker 3: a rough showing people six minutes over the target. Absolutely
Speaker 3: nothing to celebrate here, And now I think I know
Speaker 3: why it bombed in theaters, and that's six minutes his
Speaker 3: life or.
Speaker 2: Death, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: On the writer's side, we have producer David Kershner with
Speaker 3: his story credit inspired by the tail he made up
Speaker 3: for his daughter after seeing a stray black cat. But
Speaker 3: the screenplay was created by Mick Garris and Neil Cuthbert.
Speaker 3: And if Garris's name sounds familiar to magical rewinders, that's
Speaker 3: because he wrote the greatest thing in the history of the.
Speaker 2: World, Fuzzbucket. No, that is right. This is the man
Speaker 2: who penned that car crash.
Speaker 3: He was an amazing stories writer who directed a lot
Speaker 3: of Steven Spielberg's making of featurettes and has credits on
Speaker 3: batteries not included the fly To and Critters To. Cuthbert
Speaker 3: has just as weird an IMDb page. He was a
Speaker 3: Saint Elsewhere writer. Shout out to Bill Daniels, who only
Speaker 3: wrote four movies in total, this one, The Return to
Speaker 3: the Swamp Thing great movie, the Ben Stiller Ensemble comedy,
Speaker 3: Mystery Men, Overlooked Comedy, and the horrendous Eddie Murphy film
Speaker 3: The Adventures of Pluto. Now which is still considered like
Speaker 3: one of the worst movies of all time. Then it
Speaker 3: appears like he just fell off the face of the earth.
Speaker 5: He just stopped, just done.
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Speaker 3: brace yourself for a Disney movie about killing kids and
Speaker 3: being a virgin?
Speaker 2: It's time to talk hocus Pocus.
Speaker 3: We open on an old spell book that magically swings
Speaker 3: open and throws us right into a spooky sale of Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: It's the seventeenth century and we're on a modest farm.
Speaker 3: A young boy is awoken by what looks like a
Speaker 3: passing witch in the window. He whispers for his sister
Speaker 3: Emily with a strange accent that isn't his voice, but
Speaker 3: she's nowhere to be found. He stumbles outside and still
Speaker 3: sees no sign of her. He asks his neighbor Elijah
Speaker 3: if he's seen her, but no luck. But then they
Speaker 3: notice a cloud of pink smoke in the distance. He
Speaker 3: warns de conjure. The two boys run off into the woods,
Speaker 3: only to see young Emily laughing and chasing after the witch.
Speaker 3: The brother sends Elijah off for help and runs off
Speaker 3: to save his sister. He's barefoot and running through the woods,
Speaker 3: which seems like would be very painful, and as a
Speaker 3: kid who grew up in the woods, it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He eventually stumbles on a branch and lands face first
Speaker 3: in front of the witch's house, which again is an
Speaker 3: awesome house, where Emily is being brought inside. The look
Speaker 3: of their home is amazing. It's just a very cool
Speaker 3: set piece, such a good set it really is.
Speaker 2: It's one of those sets you see and you're like, Ooh,
Speaker 2: I want to be I want to shoot something on them. Yes.
Speaker 3: When the brother peeks inside, he sees three witches gathered
Speaker 3: in front of his sister doing very creepy dances. Emily
Speaker 3: looks terrified, but then the witches spot her brother and
Speaker 3: chase after him. And this is the first time we
Speaker 3: see at least Winnifred's makeup, and it's pretty amazing. Bette Midler,
Speaker 3: by the way, is fully committed in this movie, even
Speaker 3: down her very proper period accent.
Speaker 2: She's made so many odd choices in this and every
Speaker 2: one of them payoff. Did you love her as much?
Speaker 2: As I did, because she stole this movie.
Speaker 1: She did, This was her movie, this one hundred percent
Speaker 1: her movie. Yeah, absolutely, but I feel like having her
Speaker 1: two sisters right behind her.
Speaker 2: Oh they are great ensemble our house.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have ever seen a trio
Speaker 1: just dominate a screw characters. I mean, like you said,
Speaker 1: just fully commit and I ate it up second by
Speaker 1: second made.
Speaker 2: It's so good that watching the three of them was
Speaker 2: by far.
Speaker 3: My favorite part of the movie Magic, when he is
Speaker 3: clearly the leader and the whole sister dynamic is little
Speaker 3: three stooges Ask, which again I love the comedy.
Speaker 2: Put in the bumblingness with kind of the scary crazy
Speaker 2: stuff they're doing really worked.
Speaker 1: She tells me there's shapes of her mouth and her
Speaker 1: tongue or I.
Speaker 3: Got their mouth and stuff like that, and that all
Speaker 3: three of them had weird mouth things going on.
Speaker 2: But it's also they're being funny and bumbling while trying
Speaker 2: to kill kids.
Speaker 1: Yes, it makes you one hundred percent. There's only a
Speaker 1: few moments where you realize really what they're trying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're trying to suck the soul out of
Speaker 2: children to make themselves younger.
Speaker 1: But the comedy makes it like work nuts. That's really scary.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of scary moments, but like it just
Speaker 1: you don't think of it as evil. You think of
Speaker 1: it as funny.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like they're.
Speaker 2: Also just unhind bad people. Like it's crazy, Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: She tells his sister to focus on their spell book,
Speaker 3: which appears to be live and their new young guest
Speaker 3: of honor, and now it's time for the life potion
Speaker 3: when he yells out the ingredients and Mary attends to
Speaker 3: the smoking pot. Meanwhile, Emily's brother sneaks back into the
Speaker 3: house and Mary smells something.
Speaker 2: Is that a child?
Speaker 3: She can smell kids, which is very creepy. But everyone's
Speaker 3: focused on the potion, which needs just one more thing,
Speaker 3: a bit of their tongues. They bite off a piece
Speaker 3: of their own mouths and spit it into the pot,
Speaker 3: now ready for tasting.
Speaker 2: But just as they're about to spoon.
Speaker 3: Feed Emily, her brother yells out no with somebody else's voice.
Speaker 3: The witches try to capture him, but are eventually pushed.
Speaker 2: It's true and it is true. Uh wow, it's true.
Speaker 2: But it eventually pushed into the cauldron, spilling the.
Speaker 3: Potion everywhere, and when the brother sees an opening to
Speaker 3: steal back Emily, Winifred electrocutes him, sending him to the
Speaker 3: floor writhing in pain, and it's all chaos, but the
Speaker 3: potion worked.
Speaker 2: Emily is glowing, almost like a ghost.
Speaker 3: The three sisters take each other's hands and start to
Speaker 3: inhale her spirit like she's a giant bong and they're
Speaker 3: smoking her. And then as they literally suck her up
Speaker 3: the heinous ol witches start to become hot younger witches
Speaker 3: and truthfully again, Sarah Jessica Parker, she has the most
Speaker 3: drastic change between the two and just there's something about
Speaker 3: the creepiness and her cackle and everything.
Speaker 2: She's stunning in this movie. I had a big crush
Speaker 2: on her stop this whole film.
Speaker 1: It's like that because in most of the things I've
Speaker 1: seen her in she doesn't have that platinum blonde hair
Speaker 1: and she oh, she's just like, oh, she just jumps
Speaker 1: out at you. She's so so pretty. You just can't
Speaker 1: get over it. Throughout the entire movie.
Speaker 2: It worked.
Speaker 3: It worked, But the witches love what they see, at
Speaker 3: least as they start, they celebrate and are excited to
Speaker 3: suck the life out of all the children in Salem
Speaker 3: to look even younger, but for now they focus on
Speaker 3: Emily's brother. Winnifred takes the spellbook and turns him into
Speaker 3: a cat. Emily's brother was Thackberry Binks, who who, of
Speaker 3: course becomes Bings the cat. And right then a large
Speaker 3: mob with torches and pitchforks. Thank you for showing up late,
Speaker 3: crazy pitchfork mob. They arrive at the witch's door, and yes,
Speaker 3: there is a body of a dead.
Speaker 2: Child in the house. Thank you Disney.
Speaker 3: Anyway, the townspeople capture the sisters and are ready for
Speaker 3: them to be hanged.
Speaker 2: Just before they're lynched, Winnifred casts a spell.
Speaker 3: She says one day a virgin will summon them from
Speaker 3: underground so they can return and steal children's spirits once
Speaker 3: and for all.
Speaker 2: And with that they're hung again. Not very Disney. No,
Speaker 2: also of worth.
Speaker 3: Noting Emily's dad kicks away the annoying black cat, not
Speaker 3: knowing it's in fact his son, which, when you think
Speaker 3: about it, is also super creepy.
Speaker 2: They've turned for eternity. This poor young man is stuck
Speaker 2: as a cat. Yeah weird. We cut to modern day Salem.
Speaker 3: A teacher is telling the story of the Sanderson Sisters
Speaker 3: to her class on Halloween. She warns them on Halloween night,
Speaker 3: a black cat still stands guarded at Sanderson House, stopping
Speaker 3: anyone from bringing the witches back to life. Student and
Speaker 3: a recent transplant from California, Max Dennison doesn't believe any
Speaker 3: of it. He says Halloween was invented by Big Candy,
Speaker 3: but makes fun of everyone with their Salem and Halloween pride.
Speaker 3: He gives his phone number to a vocal Halloween supporter,
Speaker 3: a beautiful classmate Alison, to flirt and just in case,
Speaker 3: quote unquote, Jimmy Hendrix comes back to life ballsy dude
Speaker 3: in a Disney movie.
Speaker 2: He just walks up the hottest girl in school.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, here's my number exactly and like quick and.
Speaker 2: Is this supposed to be his first day at school?
Speaker 2: Happens to be a.
Speaker 1: Halloween Like that's so crazy that this is well, if
Speaker 1: not his, no, I don't believe it would be his
Speaker 1: first day. But he's new, new, right new. You know.
Speaker 3: See this this threw me a little bit because they
Speaker 3: made well first of all, they made him with a
Speaker 3: new new student and he's talking about how boring it
Speaker 3: is and how he misses his life and all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: He's moving to Salem, Massachusetts on Halloween.
Speaker 3: Salem on Halloween is a party that last for like
Speaker 3: three days.
Speaker 2: So he's new to this town. Of course. Oh it's
Speaker 2: Salem and Halloween and it's like a destination for the world.
Speaker 2: So it's like he's moving to one of the biggest
Speaker 2: party places at the party time of the year, and
Speaker 2: he's like this sucks. So I you know, I I
Speaker 2: would have had him there a little.
Speaker 3: Bit longer and had him say like, hey, you've only
Speaker 3: been here two months.
Speaker 2: Oh kind of thing.
Speaker 3: You haven't experienced Halloween here, instead of doing this over Halloween,
Speaker 3: which is the coolest time of the year in Salem.
Speaker 3: I mean, it would be like moving to New Orleans
Speaker 3: right before Marty Gron being.
Speaker 1: Like this, so you have a New Orleans. No, Marty
Speaker 1: grows more of like an adult. But still, I fucking
Speaker 1: Halloween is very much for young kids. And if he's
Speaker 1: going to the Halloween capital, the yeah, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: really want he's not young. He's like in high school.
Speaker 2: It's still you're.
Speaker 3: Going to the Halloween party town of the year, and
Speaker 3: it'd be the first one you're going to experience.
Speaker 1: I know he's I get it. Though he's not going
Speaker 1: to a party, He's going to like trick or treating
Speaker 1: like he's still being It's like, oh yeah, let's glorify
Speaker 1: this little kid's hollow. That's I feel like in high school,
Speaker 1: how you look out at the long why.
Speaker 2: That's also why you needed a couple more scenes with
Speaker 2: his parents.
Speaker 3: The parents were woefully under used in this movie, and
Speaker 3: they needed some conversations with the parents and the kids
Speaker 3: of like, look, I know we're new in town, but
Speaker 3: this is the Halloween capital of the world. How about
Speaker 3: getting into the spirit a little bit right? You know, yes,
Speaker 3: you have to take your sister trick or treating, but
Speaker 3: you'll be home by seven thirty. Then you get the
Speaker 3: rest of the night to do whatever you want. You're here,
Speaker 3: meet friends, go to a party.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go get wasted at some freak wherever. Their
Speaker 1: mom's gonna dress like Madonna with kne boob. You go
Speaker 1: do what you want. We're fun parents.
Speaker 2: Yes, I did something.
Speaker 3: I felt like the parents had like nine lines this
Speaker 3: entire movie.
Speaker 2: It was weird.
Speaker 1: It was strange, and they seemed like, I don't know
Speaker 1: where they were in their careers, but they're like well
Speaker 1: known actors like these Yeah, I mean yeah, there's very
Speaker 1: very familiar looking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is well.
Speaker 3: This is also the difference between, especially back in the
Speaker 3: day in ninety three, a d COM and a movie
Speaker 3: that was going to be released in theaters. A d com,
Speaker 3: you're not getting Bette Miller and Sara Jessica Parker and
Speaker 3: Kathy and Jimmy and good character actors.
Speaker 2: You're getting you're getting character actors.
Speaker 3: But they're not on that level of you know, you're
Speaker 3: the Dad from from Brink, perfect example, good character actor
Speaker 3: Ben and a bunch of stuff, not Bette Midler. So
Speaker 3: it's you know, you get you get a bigger and
Speaker 3: deeper talent pool when you've got this kind of budget
Speaker 3: and you know it's gonna be in theaters.
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's I feel like it's like they
Speaker 1: could have definitely dove into be agreed.
Speaker 2: I agreed a little bit more, a little bit more,
Speaker 2: that's all I'm saying. That was the only thing that
Speaker 2: threw me.
Speaker 3: I liked the movie, but it was kind of like, Dude,
Speaker 3: you're going to the Halloween capital of the world on
Speaker 3: Halloween and you're still pissed.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, but he has no friends, Like, who's
Speaker 1: he guy? Why you are so little? Yeah, it would
Speaker 1: be a bummer.
Speaker 3: That's why you need it to set it up a
Speaker 3: little bit more, or change his character a little bit
Speaker 3: to where he's like, Hey, I'm new here.
Speaker 2: It's my second day. I hear Halloween is crazy in
Speaker 2: this town.
Speaker 3: I'm not a big Halloween guy, but I guess I'll try,
Speaker 3: you know something, instead of like.
Speaker 2: This is that's the worst thing ever Halloween and Halloween village, Like.
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, well that's teenagers for you.
Speaker 2: Will I know? I was one still. Anne class is
Speaker 2: out for Halloween and Max catches up with Alison on
Speaker 2: his way home.
Speaker 3: He apologizes if it embarrassed her to introduce himself. He's
Speaker 3: experienced culture shock with all this Halloween stuff and doesn't
Speaker 3: believe in these Sanderson sisters at all, but then again,
Speaker 3: who would. Alison isn't impressed. She walks away, handing back
Speaker 3: his phone number.
Speaker 2: Bummer.
Speaker 3: Max speeds home while wearing one of those cool Rastafarian
Speaker 3: knitted backpacks from the nineties, stopping in a graveyard to
Speaker 3: see two burnout students, Jay and Ernie. Or Ernie wants
Speaker 3: to be called ice. The word also is shaved into
Speaker 3: the back of his head. The cool kids offer him
Speaker 3: a cigarette. Again not very Disney. There was smoking and
Speaker 3: drinking all over this movie.
Speaker 5: Yes, so yeah, that was a shock for me.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've watched seven hundred too many dcoms
Speaker 1: to be okay with. Somebody made on her a sticker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, hey, do you want to smoke a joint?
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, sang out here, smoker, just like wait, oh,
Speaker 3: Mick Mickey.
Speaker 2: Would not approve.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: Then, of course they attempt to mug him, but he
Speaker 3: doesn't have any cash, so they land on just stealing
Speaker 3: his new kicks.
Speaker 2: See, I'm a hip, they're nikes, they're kicks, their shoes,
Speaker 2: I get them.
Speaker 3: He now bikes home and just a socks, telling his
Speaker 3: parents his day at school sucked.
Speaker 2: He just wants to go back to la.
Speaker 3: While he pounts in his room, we take the POV
Speaker 3: of someone or something hiding in his closet. He eventually
Speaker 3: dozes off dreaming of Allison, but is woken up by
Speaker 3: his eight year old sister, Danny, jumping out to scare him.
Speaker 3: She informs him he'll be taking her trick or treating,
Speaker 3: but Max doesn't want a chaperone, but when she screams
Speaker 3: for their mom, he's forced to do it. That night,
Speaker 3: you dresses as a witch and he's in jeans, a
Speaker 3: jacket and sunglasses, claiming to be a quote unquote rap singer.
Speaker 2: Laziest costume ever in a movie.
Speaker 1: Didn't look like a rapper even.
Speaker 3: I don't think he was trying to be one. I
Speaker 3: think he just came out and closed and then he
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know I'm a rapper.
Speaker 2: I guess like he just died.
Speaker 1: Those sunglasses. I thought that was somewhat of.
Speaker 2: A cost The whole thing is weird. And then his
Speaker 2: dad's like, no, you gotta turn it sideways. It was.
Speaker 3: And so now we're out in Salem on a very
Speaker 3: busy Halloween night. Max takes his sister door to door,
Speaker 3: looking very peeved. He also sees those cigarette fiending bullies
Speaker 3: Jay and Ice and tries to avoid them, but Danny
Speaker 3: walks right up to him. They demand she hands over
Speaker 3: some candy, but she says her big brother will put
Speaker 3: them in their place, and then it's revealed it's Max.
Speaker 3: The thugs insult him for trick or treating and having
Speaker 3: a costume, which, honestly I get. Max hands over his
Speaker 3: candy like that he is and walks away. No, there's
Speaker 3: like six against one.
Speaker 2: He couldn't eaten to one.
Speaker 1: What was he gonna do?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I would have done. I would
Speaker 3: have kicked my little sister down and run the other way.
Speaker 3: You only have to outrun your sister. That's the joy
Speaker 3: of it. I'm kidding, of course, but I'm not giving
Speaker 3: my candy away. Still going door to door, Danny is
Speaker 3: disappointed in her brother. She crashes in a nearby front
Speaker 3: yard and breaks down crying. Max apologizes and vents out
Speaker 3: all of his frustrations about being in Salem. Danny tells
Speaker 3: him the elements their home. Now he needs to get
Speaker 3: used to it. They make up and get ready to
Speaker 3: ring another doorbell and quickly notice it's a big mansion.
Speaker 3: This is definitely a rich person's house. They walk right
Speaker 3: in the open door, which I was like, dude, you're
Speaker 3: just walking into somebody's house, Like, what are you doing.
Speaker 3: It is the middle of a crowded party with adults
Speaker 3: all dressed as aristocrats. It's being thrown by that Hattie
Speaker 3: Allison's parents, She's surprised to see Max and offers them
Speaker 3: some cider. The whole shindig has a real eyes wide
Speaker 3: shut vibes.
Speaker 2: Also.
Speaker 3: No needed to go into much detail here, but Danny
Speaker 3: references boobs by calling them yabos a few times, which
Speaker 3: again was like, all right, we're having a boob reference
Speaker 3: in a Disney movie too, cigarettes boobs?
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I didn't recognize the yabos. Did
Speaker 1: you understand what the yabos were?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh you've never heard yabos.
Speaker 1: No, not at all.
Speaker 3: I always thought yabos were like punk kids ruining the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: It's like, look at those yabos, like running around, like
Speaker 3: trashing thing, like the kids that are bullies. Like adults
Speaker 3: would have been like, look at those yabos. That's what
Speaker 3: I thought that was. I didn't think there were boobs either. Ooligains, Yeah,
Speaker 3: boobies maybe, I don't know who Ruffians that's what my
Speaker 3: dad used to call them.
Speaker 1: Ruffians.
Speaker 3: The girls is enough breast talk, I think for this
Speaker 3: portion of Magicy went thank you. The girls bond over
Speaker 3: their love for the lore of the Sanderson sisters, who
Speaker 3: Danny just learned about in school. Allison says her mom
Speaker 3: used to run the museum, but it was shut down
Speaker 3: because spooky things used to happen there all the time.
Speaker 3: Max suggests they go to the Sanderson House, and Alison is,
Speaker 3: of course down. Apparently she can just leave her parents'
Speaker 3: party with no warning whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Parents were kind of non existent in this entire film.
Speaker 3: Danny doesn't want to go, but when Alison leaves to
Speaker 3: get changed, she convinces her sister to let him hang
Speaker 3: out with the girl of his dreams and her amazing yabos.
Speaker 2: Feel just creepy, even saying.
Speaker 3: That the trio make it over to the Witch's condemned
Speaker 3: house and it's so abandoned it's basically one big cobweb. Also,
Speaker 3: they have a lot of Zippo lighters and unexplicably running electricity. Also,
Speaker 3: for the record of anybody who's ever owned a zippo,
Speaker 3: you fill it with gas and three hours later it
Speaker 3: doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 2: So the idea that this has been sitting there for
Speaker 2: years and still works is absurd, right. Yeah, it's also
Speaker 2: worth noting here.
Speaker 3: Omri Katz has said in several interviews over the years
Speaker 3: that there were many scenes of this movie he did
Speaker 3: while high on marijuana. Wow, and I would like to
Speaker 3: suggest that this is one of those scenes. Did you
Speaker 3: notice any of this at all? He looked like he
Speaker 3: might have been a little bit stoned.
Speaker 2: You know. I am not one to judge anybody. But
Speaker 2: not at work, dude, Not at work.
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny.
Speaker 3: So as they explore the house, they're being watched by
Speaker 3: a black cat, and we know who that is.
Speaker 2: That is obviously Sabrina, the teenage witch's cat. I'm kidding,
Speaker 2: different thing.
Speaker 3: And we also recognize a nearby spellbook covered in human
Speaker 3: skin and given to Winnifred directly from the devil, and
Speaker 3: yet it's still on display in this abandoned house. Max
Speaker 3: notices a black flame candle set to revive spirits from
Speaker 3: the dead when lit by a virgin on Halloween night,
Speaker 3: and just as he contemplates lighting it, Max is attacked
Speaker 3: by the black cat.
Speaker 2: Wants freed the veral animal.
Speaker 3: The girls just want to leave, but Max still doesn't
Speaker 3: believe any of this mumbo jumbo, so he lights the
Speaker 3: candle like a total dump, and when the flame quickly
Speaker 3: turns black, he immediately knows he's in trouble. The house
Speaker 3: comes alive, terrifying the kids and awakening the witches who
Speaker 3: are now cackling at the front door. They're ready for
Speaker 3: sweet revenge. This was another problem I hadn't problem is
Speaker 3: not the right word.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see how they were conjured back, Like
Speaker 2: did they come out of the ground, Yes, they did,
Speaker 2: they come from the mist. It's like they just showed
Speaker 2: up at the door.
Speaker 3: I would I know that's expensive, but I would love
Speaker 3: to have seen how they were brought back.
Speaker 1: Right, because it's weird to think, and it didn't seem
Speaker 1: like after they were hung. It so weird to say that,
Speaker 1: right in a Disney movie that the that the the
Speaker 1: people that did the situation with them just walked away.
Speaker 1: So they were just like left hanging there. So it's like,
Speaker 1: were they just like piled up under something And while
Speaker 1: they were doing it, the floorboards were turned I mean
Speaker 1: green and lighting up?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I thought, again, this was one of the things when
Speaker 1: I just recently watched it, you know, for the first
Speaker 1: time in a couple of years, I was like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: did they come Do they come through the floorboards? Like
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, oh, yeah, we're and then
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, they just walked through the door.
Speaker 3: I would like to have seen how they got Yeah,
Speaker 3: the walk through the door was been kind of a
Speaker 3: cheat to me. I would like to have seen that
Speaker 3: because again, if if the way it was done in Salem,
Speaker 3: I think back in the day for witches is you
Speaker 3: were hanged and then either hanged and then drawn and quartered,
Speaker 3: or you were burned.
Speaker 2: At the stake.
Speaker 3: That's what I Yes, they obviously were not going to
Speaker 3: show these three women being burned alive. It was bad
Speaker 3: enough to show their legs swinging, but seeing them come
Speaker 3: back some.
Speaker 2: Way, we like.
Speaker 3: They showed the guy, you know, the guy with his
Speaker 3: mouth stitched up, They showed him like climb out of
Speaker 3: the ground, right, So it would have been cool to
Speaker 3: see how these witches came back, if they came through
Speaker 3: flame again or they could, you know, something like that
Speaker 3: would have been cool as opposed to just kind.
Speaker 2: Of walking through the front door or of their own house.
Speaker 2: But I get it, it's expensive and we're at ninety
Speaker 2: six minutes.
Speaker 3: So Mary immediately of course smells children who could be
Speaker 3: their first victims. They search the room and they find Danny,
Speaker 3: who alerts them that it's nineteen ninety three or what
Speaker 3: they The original line was it's the.
Speaker 2: First season the Boy meets World.
Speaker 3: I'm kidding, but things quickly turned dark as the sisters
Speaker 3: set her up for a good old fashioned soul sucking
Speaker 3: until Max intervenes. He threatens the witches, but is met
Speaker 3: with a jolt of electricity from Winnie like back in
Speaker 3: the day. As the siblings are in jeopardy of major
Speaker 3: bodily harm, Allison steps up, grabbing a broom in a
Speaker 3: pan to attack the sisters.
Speaker 2: Danny and the cat follow suit.
Speaker 3: Leaving room for the kids to finally escape, and on
Speaker 3: his way out, Max uses that amazing zippo that, for
Speaker 3: some reason has been around for twenty years and still
Speaker 3: works to trigger the house sprinkler system, warning of the
Speaker 3: burning rain of death. The witches hide and Banks tells
Speaker 3: Max to swipe the spellbook. Ooh, that's a lot of
Speaker 3: k's in a row and very difficult to say. And yes,
Speaker 3: apparently the cat does talk and the lady he assume
Speaker 3: there's nothing they can do except watch Max leave with
Speaker 3: the book because of this quote unquote rain of death
Speaker 3: and then they realize it's just water.
Speaker 2: They raise after the kids, but they're too late.
Speaker 3: They also have no idea what a paved road is
Speaker 3: or what sirens are, which again I thought, all this.
Speaker 2: Was very, very funny. It's not gonna be easy, Winnifred does.
Speaker 3: Really, they're all checking it out, and then they just
Speaker 3: pushed the youngest sister out to see if if it's
Speaker 3: gonna hold it out. It's like, well, if it kills her,
Speaker 3: it's gonna kill the youngest of us here, which is
Speaker 3: very funny. Winnifred does realize though, that her spell will
Speaker 3: only work on Halloween. When the sun comes up, they
Speaker 3: will turn to dust unless they find their book and
Speaker 3: its recipe to stay young forever. Meanwhile, the cat has
Speaker 3: led the kids to a graveyard and a tombstone for
Speaker 3: Billy Butcherson. He was Winnifred's lover, but she found him
Speaker 3: with her sister Sarah and poisoned him. The cat also
Speaker 3: points out his sister Emily's grave, explaining that he was
Speaker 3: cursed with the eternal life as a cat so he
Speaker 3: could be in Salem when his sisters were resurrected.
Speaker 2: I mean, yikes.
Speaker 3: Max tries to burn the spell book, but it's protected
Speaker 3: by magic, and unfortunately at the same time that summons
Speaker 3: the sisters right to them, the which is flank the children,
Speaker 3: and Sarah suggests you'll take Max's virginity.
Speaker 2: Sure is cool in a Disney movie.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: This is where they also set up that they can't
Speaker 3: touch hollowed ground, so they can fly over hollowed ground,
Speaker 3: but they can't set foot on hollowed ground. And that's
Speaker 3: going to be important because it comes back basically not
Speaker 3: at all, and when it does, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: And we'll get into that Winifred and Binks square off
Speaker 3: and the kids run away with the spellbook, dodging the
Speaker 3: witches left and right, and Winnie summons her ex lover
Speaker 3: Billy to rise as a zombie and attack. As a result,
Speaker 3: Max knox Billy's head off of the tree branch and
Speaker 3: the kids hide.
Speaker 2: In a secret crypt.
Speaker 3: Winnie commands Ability to find the children and the spellbook
Speaker 3: then calls him a maggot museum, and as they wait,
Speaker 3: a slightly manic Winnie decides to hunt out other kids,
Speaker 3: knowing their innocent souls will give them a little more time.
Speaker 3: They're eventually picked up by what we learn is a
Speaker 3: quote unquote bus and it's really flirty, totally creepy driver.
Speaker 2: This whole scene was like, oh, wow, this guy.
Speaker 1: Oh yikes, it was over the top.
Speaker 2: It always yep.
Speaker 1: There's the part where Sarah Jessica looked Parker looks so uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's just like, oh, thank you, thank you
Speaker 3: for that. We are now down in the crypt sewers.
Speaker 2: The cat is still making you laugh. I love it.
Speaker 3: Down in the crypt Sewers, the cat and the kids
Speaker 3: try to find an exit, follow closely behind by Billy,
Speaker 3: and in the process Binks is actually hit and run
Speaker 3: over by the bus. But remember he's immortal, so he
Speaker 3: comes back to life after making Danny cry. And this
Speaker 3: whole scene was like, look, they crushed the cat and
Speaker 3: then he like you hear the bones re knitting, and
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, it.
Speaker 1: Just get ivan. The cat is flat as a rug,
Speaker 1: like like, oh my gosh, oh that it just kept
Speaker 1: getting It was as cringey for a while there a
Speaker 1: good like three or five minutes.
Speaker 2: Agreed. Yep.
Speaker 3: And now the witches exit the bus and right into
Speaker 3: the mayhem that is Salem Halloween. They're surrounded by kids
Speaker 3: but are confused by the costumes. They think these are
Speaker 3: actual monsters. They beg for help and are greeted by
Speaker 3: their master. It appears to be the devil and is
Speaker 3: played by a contender for the Dabney Reynolds Chair director
Speaker 3: and producer Gary Marshall. Totally shocking cameo there, Y. The
Speaker 3: only thing that'd be weirder is if they cast somebody
Speaker 3: really strange to play his wife.
Speaker 2: Oh wait.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Danny finds a police officer and asks for his help,
Speaker 3: And in one of the weirder scenes of the movie,
Speaker 3: the skeptical police officer is shocked that Max is still
Speaker 3: a virgin. He's like fourteen, yeah, and shocked at the
Speaker 3: kids of virgin NOI well, he drives later with a permit,
Speaker 3: so he could be fifteen, maybe sixteen, but you'd better
Speaker 3: still be a virgin of fifteen or sixteen God, and
Speaker 3: lingers on the thought a little too long about that.
Speaker 3: In the end, the policeman thinks it's a prank, then
Speaker 3: reveals he was never a cop in the first place.
Speaker 2: It was a Halloween costume and it was just a
Speaker 2: really weird scene.
Speaker 1: It was so weird, but it was funny. They thought
Speaker 1: I was a real cop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, oh God.
Speaker 3: And back in the Master's home, some tricker treaters steal
Speaker 3: the witch's brooms outside and fly away just as the
Speaker 3: Master introduces the witches to his quote little woman and
Speaker 3: an even bigger, weirder cameo. It's Penny Marshall, Gary sister
Speaker 3: playing husband and wife. She's best known, of course, as
Speaker 3: Laverne and Laverne and Shirley and eventually director of movies.
Speaker 3: Like a league of their own and big, it appears
Speaker 3: that the Master just married a regular old housewife.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, well that's odd.
Speaker 3: Sarah flirts with the Master and eventually slow dances with him,
Speaker 3: infuriating Laverne from Laverne and Shirley, and then we realize
Speaker 3: the Master isn't the actual devil at all, It was
Speaker 3: just a costume. Laverne kicks the sisters out, and now
Speaker 3: without brooms, they realize these costumes.
Speaker 2: Are just tricker treating kids.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, our gang of heroes have decided to try and
Speaker 3: find Max and Danny's parents at the Halloween party, which
Speaker 3: honestly seems like a hopping party. Frankly, there's this skeleton
Speaker 3: band and a lot of dancing adults. Max finds his dad,
Speaker 3: who's dressed like Dracula or Dad Cula, and Danny's stumbles
Speaker 3: onto their mom who's dressed like Madonna on The Truth
Speaker 3: or Daretur with the pointy bra that Serena was talking
Speaker 3: about dancing like she is rolling on ecstasy.
Speaker 1: This was like again, I mean, I know it's not
Speaker 1: a d com, but it's just like, wow, it couldn't
Speaker 1: be more extreme from what we watching having a mom.
Speaker 1: I mean even in under wraps, when she's dressed like Cleopatra,
Speaker 1: you know, a your seductive looking costume, it's still not
Speaker 1: Madonna with the pointed theos.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, yeah, this is there is a huge
Speaker 3: difference you're write between dcom and regular Disney movie. Even
Speaker 3: though it's still a Disney movie, there's a massive difference
Speaker 3: between the massive difference.
Speaker 1: It's just so funny.
Speaker 2: Oh man, yep uh.
Speaker 3: The witches arrive at the party, some exercise to do
Speaker 3: something about it, jumps on stage and interrupts the band.
Speaker 3: He tells the crowd that everyone kids are in danger
Speaker 3: and the witches have returned. The partygoers laugh, but he
Speaker 3: insists is not a joke. He points out the witches
Speaker 3: on the dance floor and instead of everyone being afraid,
Speaker 3: Winnifred uses the opportunity.
Speaker 2: To perform a song. I put a spell on you
Speaker 2: and the audience loves it.
Speaker 3: The witches take the stage and put together a great performance,
Speaker 3: and I get why Gene Siskel loved this part. And
Speaker 3: obviously Kenny Ortega is the secret of this success. What
Speaker 3: did you think of this musical number?
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: The only thing, the only critique I could seriously say
Speaker 1: is that I wish there were more of them throughout the.
Speaker 2: Yea I could see that, I could totally see.
Speaker 1: Thattman or how do you have one? One musical moment with.
Speaker 2: Yea with and the other two were great too, backing
Speaker 2: her up like.
Speaker 1: It was like we were saying, we just got came
Speaker 1: off of Sister Act. I don't know if Sarah Jessica Parker.
Speaker 2: She seemed like she could sing.
Speaker 1: It seems like she has a lot of experience within
Speaker 1: it because she was incredible. I just wish there was more. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I would have been okay if this movie was one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty minutes. If I got three more routine.
Speaker 2: Oh, Sabrina, don't hurt me. Don't hurt me like that, Sabrina,
Speaker 2: don't I would.
Speaker 1: Sit through two hours. If I got blown routine.
Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's a lot. She got Bet.
Speaker 1: Miller keny Ortega lock me in, I'm in.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's two hours. Ooh, I'm just I'm having
Speaker 3: flashbacks to two hours. Zombie Billy also crashes the party
Speaker 3: just as the song comes to an end.
Speaker 2: The Witches it pulled it off, and the kids need
Speaker 2: to run for safety once again.
Speaker 3: By the way, the song that they sing puts all
Speaker 3: the parents into a trance where they're literally going to
Speaker 3: dance until they die. That's the right, right, So it's
Speaker 3: they It's a spell she puts on where the parents
Speaker 3: are literally going.
Speaker 2: To dance until they die. Crazy, so yes.
Speaker 3: The kids stumble into a seafood restaurant back Ali, and
Speaker 3: Alison has an idea how seafood triggered.
Speaker 2: The idea makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3: But meanwhile, the witches then find the high school, which
Speaker 3: is coincidentally that was her idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the Lobster beat boot but bee boot
Speaker 2: high school high school? Yep, lobster high school, hey school.
Speaker 3: As the sisters entered, they're greeted by Max's voice on
Speaker 3: the intercom, which was actually his voice, welcome them to
Speaker 3: uh high school. Hell, it seems like they've set up
Speaker 3: a trap for the ladies home alone style, locking them
Speaker 3: in a kiln where you actually do pottery and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and burning them alive.
Speaker 2: Did your school have a massive kiln?
Speaker 1: No, not that I mean I never.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was not involved in any electives of the sort.
Speaker 2: I have to imagine you would have known if there
Speaker 2: was a giant kiln on premises though, right, No, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think ours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't even have like a photography black light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean red light.
Speaker 3: This was a kiln big enough to kill three witches.
Speaker 3: I think we would have known if it was at
Speaker 3: high school.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is, by the way, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever thought twice about it prior to now being
Speaker 1: this rewatch.
Speaker 2: Master exactly.
Speaker 1: Self proclaimed by.
Speaker 2: The way, thank you please.
Speaker 3: No one's gonna proclaim us masters of rewatch, so we
Speaker 3: got to do it ourselves.
Speaker 1: You're right, No, but this, I have never ever thought
Speaker 1: anything about this situation that we're about to just walk
Speaker 1: into right now. Never once. And this was like like
Speaker 1: a siren was going off, going wait what.
Speaker 2: What about burning them alive? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and how they how it doesn't work that
Speaker 1: I am now very confused either. This podcast is officially
Speaker 1: almost ruined one of my favorite.
Speaker 3: Because now you're starting to question the rules, aren't you
Speaker 3: sobrin nice?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or maybe I should say the podcast, Maybe I should
Speaker 1: say Wilfred Ell with the introduction into the rules, that makes.
Speaker 2: It has to make sense. You're writing, you're writing a
Speaker 2: script that's.
Speaker 1: Got to make sense, man.
Speaker 3: Yes, The kids watch the witches burn and green Smoke
Speaker 3: escapes from the chimney. They celebrate in the streets, and
Speaker 3: Max congratulates Binks. The cat really misses his sister and
Speaker 3: blames hisself for her death. He also blames himself for
Speaker 3: her death and is somebody else's voice. He attempts to
Speaker 3: strut off, but Max reveals he's part of their family now,
Speaker 3: and when they return home, their parents are now nowhere
Speaker 3: to be found, of course, because they're still at the
Speaker 3: party dancing, which might be a problem. Danny falls asleep
Speaker 3: cuddling Binks, and it all seems well, except the Green
Speaker 3: Smoke then returns to the high school chimney. The witches
Speaker 3: are not dead, and they explain it in that yeah right,
Speaker 3: They don't explain it, not at.
Speaker 1: All, not like how how how how what happened? In
Speaker 1: my head, I'm going, oh, it's because that book's going
Speaker 1: to open again. It's like, Nope, that's not happen. That's
Speaker 1: not what happened. They just literally went.
Speaker 2: Whoo and no explanation whatsoever. Nope. Yeah, I love that
Speaker 2: I'm ruining things.
Speaker 1: I know it was awful, and I'm telling you I've
Speaker 1: never thought once about it. And I've watched this movie
Speaker 1: so many times, but you will have just yes, oh
Speaker 1: you got it too. My head a week ago and went,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, okay.
Speaker 2: Yes, give me a list of some of your other
Speaker 2: favorite movies. I want to ruin them for you. It's great,
Speaker 2: so much fun.
Speaker 3: It is now three am in the Goons, Jay and
Speaker 3: Ice are tpeeing houses when the witches find them and
Speaker 3: lock them in their little cages. Back at the Sanderson Manner,
Speaker 3: but still without the spell book, the sisters are.
Speaker 2: Doomed for death.
Speaker 3: Back in his house, Max and Allison have also dozed
Speaker 3: off in each other's arms, but when she realizes it's
Speaker 3: five am, she knows she has to get home. And
Speaker 3: we've got to assume, since they're both still dressed, he's
Speaker 3: still a virgin. The new couple wants to find a
Speaker 3: way to help Banks reunite with his sister. Maybe the
Speaker 3: spellbook can remove the curse. Even though Binks told the
Speaker 3: kids not to open the spell book, they stupidly decide
Speaker 3: to do it anyway, and when they open it, it
Speaker 3: immediately alerts the desperate witches. They find some household, Bruce
Speaker 3: and fly to fly off to get it. Mary stuck
Speaker 3: with a vacuum, but even that works.
Speaker 1: I will say that vacuum is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: parts of Focus Focus. It's something that I will never forget.
Speaker 1: It's it's very funny, and she is so good with it.
Speaker 2: She's pretty. But if you can make anything fly, why
Speaker 2: not forget it? I love it. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: get into it. I'm not gonna do the rules for
Speaker 2: that one. It's funny that she's on the vacuum. It's
Speaker 2: funny it is Bings catches when that the book has
Speaker 2: been opened and is obviously furious. He knows nothing good
Speaker 2: will come of it, and also his parents still aren't home.
Speaker 2: This is weird.
Speaker 3: Max finds some salt, which apparently can ward off witches,
Speaker 3: and almost kisses Alison. Now did I miss the whole
Speaker 3: thing about salt? Where do we find out that salt
Speaker 3: was was bad for witches?
Speaker 1: They found it in the in the book.
Speaker 2: It was in the book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just must have blinked and looked down at
Speaker 3: my phone, so I missed that part. I'm glad they
Speaker 3: explained it because I missed that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They almost kiss oo, but they hear some commotion and
Speaker 3: run upstairs to find the witches who now have the
Speaker 3: spell book and Danny held hostage. Allison starts breading the
Speaker 3: salt everywhere and it works, but it can't save all
Speaker 3: the kids in town.
Speaker 2: They leave with Danny to finally go and steal some souls.
Speaker 3: Sarah sings a new song on the flight, and there
Speaker 3: are many reports online they say that this tune was
Speaker 3: totally improvised by Sarah Jessica Parker. The lyrics some of
Speaker 3: the kids who now walk like zombies on their way
Speaker 3: to slaughter at the sister's house is the.
Speaker 2: Salt in their room. The reason why those two kids,
Speaker 2: our main two kids aren't also brought in by the
Speaker 2: spell because they listen to the song too, So why
Speaker 2: aren't they under the spell? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is this part one of the parts where they're closing
Speaker 1: their ears and saying don't listen.
Speaker 2: To it, saying don't listen to it, but they don't
Speaker 2: ever close their ears.
Speaker 1: They don't close their ears.
Speaker 2: Oh, I watched it twice. They're just going don't listen
Speaker 2: everybody while actually listening to the song themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like I was like, wait, why aren't they
Speaker 3: And so I chalked it up to maybe they're standing
Speaker 3: in the salt room and that helped them.
Speaker 2: Like that kind of got me through it because I
Speaker 2: was like, that doesn't make any sense. Why aren't they
Speaker 2: also caught?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the well I think that the wording was
Speaker 1: like you, the magic doesn't work within that falt ring.
Speaker 2: But then they weren't in at ring. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't so okay anyway, uh she she yes, I know.
Speaker 2: Improvise the song.
Speaker 3: The lyrics summons the kids, who now walk like zombiez
Speaker 3: waiting the slaughter at the sister's house. Alison knows what's
Speaker 3: going on and knows they have to make the sun
Speaker 3: come up quickly somehow, and they need a miracle. At
Speaker 3: the sister's house, they've captured Danny, Binks, Jay and Ice
Speaker 3: and are now eagerly awaiting the arrival of Salem's youth
Speaker 3: spell book in hand, but Max gets there first and
Speaker 3: tells them they forgot something daylight savings time, and he
Speaker 3: said it wrong because it's daylight saving time.
Speaker 2: There is no s. It is not savings, thank you
Speaker 2: very much, everybody. It's daylight saving time, so everybody stop.
Speaker 3: The witches laugh it off because he pronounced the S,
Speaker 3: but are startled by a light coming through the window
Speaker 3: when they stumble in fear. Max rescues his sister and banks,
Speaker 3: but leaves the bullies behind. He kicks over the car,
Speaker 3: literally leaves the bullies to die. He kicks over the
Speaker 3: cauldron and runs to Alison in the cart. By the way,
Speaker 3: would have done exactly the same thing. Yep, it was,
Speaker 3: and taking my shoes back too.
Speaker 2: He played that an eye or good for you, good
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: I would have maybe taken that lighter that should have
Speaker 1: been a longer time ago.
Speaker 2: And little bit nice nice hey, he reput you.
Speaker 3: So people, it wasn't sunlight after all, by the way,
Speaker 3: it was the car's headlights.
Speaker 2: And these witches are kind of dumb, but that's part
Speaker 2: of their charm. That's the love. Is that they're scared
Speaker 2: of the water, they're scared of the lights.
Speaker 1: Them feeling like they're burning. Like Sarah at one point
Speaker 1: is the last one up, and she's.
Speaker 2: Just like, it was great. No, it was good, definitely
Speaker 2: good good.
Speaker 1: It's funny, funny.
Speaker 3: And then when the witches realize they've been tricked again,
Speaker 3: the black Flame is all almost out. There's just enough
Speaker 3: potion left for one child, and the entrance kids just
Speaker 3: arrived in the front yard, but Winnifred wants to sacrifice
Speaker 3: Danny only because the little.
Speaker 2: Girl called her ugly. Oh that's a big no.
Speaker 3: No, And so when he gets on her broom and
Speaker 3: catches up to Max's getaway car, they wrestle for control
Speaker 3: of the steering wheel, eventually getting away and parking at
Speaker 3: the cemetery. They race inside and Max is pushed down
Speaker 3: by Billy the Zombie, just in time for Winnie to
Speaker 3: show up, But instead of following her orders to kill him,
Speaker 3: Billy cuts his little little mouth open and insults her
Speaker 3: and helps Max escape.
Speaker 1: Some pretty pretty drastic words, I mean, Wench clearly could
Speaker 1: have been in quotations below it in the subtitles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what it meant in his day.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it was like, I mean heated, heated. Billy
Speaker 1: was pissed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at it, Billy was pissed.
Speaker 3: He also had two of the three sisters bingo car.
Speaker 3: They reconnect with the group and now the undead Billy
Speaker 3: is part of the crew. Alison surrounds the group with salt,
Speaker 3: just as the three witches fly above them. Max tries
Speaker 3: to hit Winnie with the bat, but she's too powerful,
Speaker 3: knocking him too the ground. She shifts her focus to Billy,
Speaker 3: once again, knocking his head right off. Danny has run
Speaker 3: out of the salt, leaving an opening for Winnie to
Speaker 3: swoop in and grab her, and just as the witch
Speaker 3: is about to use the potion to steal her soul,
Speaker 3: Binks himself jumps into action. He jumps at her, dislodging
Speaker 3: the potion from her hand and right into Max's possession.
Speaker 3: Now face with the reality that Whinnie can kill his
Speaker 3: sister with her bare hands if he doesn't hand her
Speaker 3: back the potion, he decides to do the unthinkable and
Speaker 3: drink the potion himself.
Speaker 2: Now, Winnifred has no choice, She's got to take Max.
Speaker 3: She begrudgingly grabs him and tries to fly off, but
Speaker 3: he's already starting to turn into a ghost and fights back.
Speaker 3: They grapple in the air while Sarah and Mary, still
Speaker 3: on her vacuum, try to help. Is an all out
Speaker 3: battle between the witches and the kids. Just as the
Speaker 3: sun starts to rise, flowing to the floor in a
Speaker 3: last ditch effort, when he grabs a disappearing Max and
Speaker 3: starts sucking out his soul. Is a race against the sun,
Speaker 3: And just as she's about to end his life, a
Speaker 3: ray of lights starts turned her into stone. Okay, she
Speaker 3: falls on hollow ground and they can't touch hollow ground.
Speaker 3: Where is the repercussions of her being on hollow ground?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Is it she turned into stone? Was that the hollowed
Speaker 2: ground part?
Speaker 3: Because they do cut to her feet like shaking and
Speaker 3: turning a little green, and it grows up her body
Speaker 3: where the other two just turned to dust.
Speaker 1: I thought it looked to me it looked like her
Speaker 1: feet were starting to catch on fire.
Speaker 2: So that's my question. That's I think that they're trying
Speaker 2: to show that's what she gets for hollow ground. But
Speaker 2: it should have been immediately.
Speaker 3: I know it was too difficult to do. She should
Speaker 3: have fallen on her face and everything should have started
Speaker 3: to smoke. Yes, because she's on hollow ground, right, And
Speaker 3: that's the whole point is that she can't. So that
Speaker 3: where I was like, h one more effect, one more
Speaker 3: little smoke and you would.
Speaker 2: Have had me. So I was like, what's what's the problem. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: fog machine. I got one in my closet. I can
Speaker 2: help you out with.
Speaker 3: Like seriously, she she's hit the ground. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 3: that was the Yeah, So the ray of light doesn't
Speaker 3: turn her to stone. I think it's the hollow ground
Speaker 3: turning her into stone because the.
Speaker 1: Rest happened before, and it was it was part of it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the sun that was doing that, right, That's
Speaker 1: what I think. The sun was just saying that their
Speaker 1: ability to get this their spell done, was there.
Speaker 3: Well, no, the sun turns them all into dust. That's
Speaker 3: the sunrise turns him into dust. But she was the
Speaker 3: only one who turned into stone. And that's because she's.
Speaker 2: On hollow ground. That's what I think it is. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: she knows she's cooked.
Speaker 3: She immediately turns into a statue and Max is released
Speaker 3: from her grasp. It's become morning, exploding Sarah and Mary
Speaker 3: into pieces, followed by Winnie statue erupting into what looks
Speaker 3: like green glitter. The children are saved. Max and Danny embrace,
Speaker 3: focusing on the relationship that Binks so clearly misses with
Speaker 3: his sister. They also say goodbye to Billy as he's
Speaker 3: returned to his grave for sleep. Max reunites with Alison
Speaker 3: and the trio look for Banks. They find him passed
Speaker 3: out and his sister's grave, and Danny is devastated as
Speaker 3: she sobs.
Speaker 2: We hear his v though not really.
Speaker 3: He's reappeared and now as a human in ghost formed.
Speaker 3: The witches are dead and his soul is free. He
Speaker 3: thanks them for all the hard work and sees his
Speaker 3: sister Emily in the distance. She's also now a ghost.
Speaker 3: Banks kisses Danny on the cheek and lets her know
Speaker 3: he will always be with her, and on his way out,
Speaker 3: Banks takes another stab at Max.
Speaker 2: For being a virgin. Were you crying by this point? No, okay,
Speaker 2: because I have to tell you I wasn't at all.
Speaker 2: And then I thought like, is that our movie? And
Speaker 2: yes that is?
Speaker 3: And I was like this, are you kidding me? This
Speaker 3: is the end, And so thankfully it wasn't. We get
Speaker 3: the final credit over the footage of the parents. I
Speaker 3: was like, thank god, somebody remembers the parents. We're going
Speaker 3: to dance to death. Leaving the dance, it appears when
Speaker 3: he did actually put a spell on the adults to
Speaker 3: dance NonStop until they died. We also see Jay and
Speaker 3: I still in their cages, captured with nowhere to go,
Speaker 3: and that's when we see the spellbook wake up.
Speaker 2: Things aren't done yet, Yes, pocus pocus.
Speaker 1: Not done yet, but you will have to wait thirty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and there's more to tell you three decades.
Speaker 1: Three decades later.
Speaker 2: Let's do real reviews now, Sabrina and you have the
Speaker 2: one star.
Speaker 1: This is so funny that you say what you said earlier.
Speaker 2: I know, and I didn't realize it, but here you
Speaker 2: know it's the one star. Who's this from?
Speaker 1: The one star? Is from the s or the.
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that.
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be Citizen Kane, you dolts. It's
Speaker 1: supposed to be cheesy, family fun in the spirit of Halloween.
Speaker 1: This movie is exactly what it needs to be. Note
Speaker 1: to critics, it has way more longevity than your career.
Speaker 2: Will one star?
Speaker 8: That a one star review, But it's good and I
Speaker 8: like you, thank you this. I have the five star review.
Speaker 2: It's from Lucia E. And Lucia didn't necessarily write a
Speaker 2: review for the record, it's more her own synopsis.
Speaker 3: And it makes me wonder did we watch the same
Speaker 3: movie because her synopsis is sexy witches.
Speaker 2: Take on the town in this steamy romance five stars.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm guessing on porn Hub there's a kind of
Speaker 3: maybe focus takeoff that she watched.
Speaker 1: By accidents of here we go.
Speaker 2: Let's not google that.
Speaker 3: And as Sabrina's favorite part of the week, of course
Speaker 3: is our feature game, and this week it's called what's
Speaker 3: your witchuation?
Speaker 2: You gonna let that's it for a little while. People.
Speaker 3: One of the best parts about witches are there crazy names.
Speaker 3: For example, how about Winnifred Well.
Speaker 2: Using an online witch name generator, we put some familiar
Speaker 2: names to the test and ask what their witch names
Speaker 2: would be. We'll get five names with multiple choice options,
Speaker 2: and we have to guess what their magical moniker would be.
Speaker 2: Three out of five wins. First one will for Dell,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, is it.
Speaker 3: A Cedric Rose Weaver, b Hamlin hose wench see rowan
Speaker 3: nightshade or d.
Speaker 2: Dan Smith. First of all, they don't incorporate my name
Speaker 2: into it anywhere. How how I it's so weird. I've
Speaker 2: gotta say, though, I like c I'm gonna say, a
Speaker 2: Cedric Rose Weaver. What are the.
Speaker 1: Parameters for this website?
Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous. By the way, who's playing with us today?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 3: Hi producer, thank you for playing with us. Yes, we
Speaker 3: have no parameters. It's just total guessing. And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say a Cedric.
Speaker 4: Rose Sabrina is corrects like a Roman's novel name, like yeah, guy, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, so we've got number two Sabrina Brian is
Speaker 2: so crazy?
Speaker 3: Is it a Cybrella never Gloom b Sabriena verdantorum? See
Speaker 3: so you're also hard of renounce? See Sobioso's storm Caller
Speaker 3: Storm Caller or d Susan Frank. Oh, it's got to
Speaker 3: be a Cimbrella never Gloom.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I kind of like the second one, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Abrella never glue.
Speaker 2: It's b.
Speaker 4: But also, why does hers have so many more of
Speaker 4: like parts of her name?
Speaker 1: They can actually see that it would make sense somewhat
Speaker 1: with my name yours are like no Rowan. When I
Speaker 1: think of will I think of my next name would definitely.
Speaker 2: Be rowing row in night Shade, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Number three Jensen Carp Is it a aviator, Vince B Callum,
Speaker 3: Prince Lore, C flint Stonebinder or G or D Gary Johnson.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with D. Gary Johnson. No, C flint Stonebinder.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like a aviator, Vince it is c ahk.
Speaker 2: Got one, one, one and one. We need to get
Speaker 2: the last two for the most ridiculous game ever. That
Speaker 2: makes no sense. Number four Tara Sudbox.
Speaker 3: Is it a Sylvia Bramble b moonshadow Thornveil see Leora
Speaker 3: Hearth Glen or d Mary Cole?
Speaker 2: You go first this time.
Speaker 1: I love moonshadow Thorn veil.
Speaker 2: Sticking with you.
Speaker 1: About the changer contact information.
Speaker 2: This is my D.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my next D and D character is
Speaker 3: gonna be named moonshadow Thorn?
Speaker 2: Who is it? Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And why do you get that from Tara?
Speaker 2: You don't, You don't at all. Number five is Stu Creeker?
Speaker 3: Is it a Silas Moon silk b or Ryan Daylight
Speaker 3: see Zephyr Milosh or d Stu Creeker, I like a
Speaker 3: like sticking with you a silas Moon silk.
Speaker 2: So that's just one. Yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: For helping us out with today's game, flint Stonebinder And
Speaker 3: can we now can we do a Cybrella never gloom Seas?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually know it with Cabriana Verdantorum, wasn't it? I
Speaker 2: don't know? Yes? Can we do with Sabrina?
Speaker 7: Please?
Speaker 1: All right? I mean, the majority of the time I
Speaker 1: was watching this, I was going, I just love this movie.
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's just so good. But there were
Speaker 1: a couple things, like I said, and I wrote them down.
Speaker 1: Once I knew we were doing the movie, I kind
Speaker 1: of was like, Okay, when I go through, I need
Speaker 1: to remember the things that I thought last time, because
Speaker 1: it was only just a couple of weeks ago. And
Speaker 1: one of the first things I thought of was who
Speaker 1: was that little girl who is Emily? She is the
Speaker 1: most gorgeous little girl and she looks so familiar. But
Speaker 1: I couldn't find it.
Speaker 2: But oh, did you google?
Speaker 1: She was stunning, stunning little girl and she looked very familiar.
Speaker 1: I didn't google. I went to a better google. The
Speaker 1: Magic Rewine Google you go, and then as I'm watching
Speaker 1: it the first time, I went, oh my god, their teeth.
Speaker 1: I don't remember them having such crazy teeth. And that
Speaker 1: was before they became younger again, so it made sense.
Speaker 1: I remember going, oh my god, there's so much scarier
Speaker 1: and then realizing once they got you know that. But
Speaker 1: then this little girl is legitimately not only are they
Speaker 1: killing girls, but this little girl's hunched over dead in
Speaker 1: the scene, in the frame in camera's eyesight for a minute,
Speaker 1: and you're just having to pretend that you don't realize
Speaker 1: that there's like a dead body right there. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: Disney movie that was courage worthy for me. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I don't ever remember thinking that. I
Speaker 1: never really don't think I ever noticed that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she's just hunched over after they've suck the life out
Speaker 1: of her. Yeah, for like a couple of minutes, as
Speaker 1: they're making banks into a black cat, she's dead.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like literally she's there for a while dead, this
Speaker 1: little child to us, yes, of like, where how is
Speaker 1: this happening? Yes, that's how we're starting. One of the
Speaker 1: funny little things that I'm with An example of of
Speaker 1: Kenny Ortega's like fun little choreography moments was when they
Speaker 1: all did the biting of their tongue and throwing getting
Speaker 1: that into the potion very early on. That was like
Speaker 1: a pure, like little just touch of magic that Kenny
Speaker 1: does with the timing of all three of them doing
Speaker 1: that making it kind of comedic and adding it to
Speaker 1: the potion. I loved that. My question after, are we
Speaker 1: really going to sit here with this dead girl? Just
Speaker 1: in the frame is so timing, timing, timing. In the
Speaker 1: very beginning, he is asleep, it's morning time. He's in pajamas.
Speaker 1: Right right there comes flying in. She gathers Emily to
Speaker 1: go very quickly. I mean, I don't know if this
Speaker 1: house of theirs takes a day to get to or what.
Speaker 1: But by the time he's at the house, it's nighttime.
Speaker 3: So it was morning when he runs out and he
Speaker 3: runs across field and then it's nighttime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's pajamas. That's why he doesn't have shoes on.
Speaker 1: He's in his pajamas. He's fully waking up.
Speaker 2: Actually, back in the day, they would probably be called
Speaker 2: bed clothes.
Speaker 1: It was in his bed clothes, bed clothes and no shoes.
Speaker 1: Nothing goes to the house and it's nighttime.
Speaker 2: I didn't notice that the entire day.
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes more sense when you think of witches, and.
Speaker 2: Well, could it be could it? Could it have been that?
Speaker 3: Okay, throwing this out there, that because he worked the
Speaker 3: fields all day, you go to bed at like six
Speaker 3: or seven o'clock at night when it's still a little
Speaker 3: light out, and so like what.
Speaker 1: Seriously knows that will?
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm saying maybe that's what it's.
Speaker 3: Maybe they went to bed at dusk and it's like
Speaker 3: so by the time he crosses the field and everything
Speaker 3: and gets the house, it's full dark.
Speaker 2: It looked like it looked like morning. Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, I understand why, especially the
Speaker 1: first time that we see the witch's house, it makes
Speaker 1: so much sense for them to be at night. But
Speaker 1: he just woke up, right, Okay, how far is this house?
Speaker 1: Maybe that makes sense why it took so long for
Speaker 1: all the rest of the village to come and take
Speaker 1: care of shit. But like he just woke up. So
Speaker 1: that was like the first like what and then again,
Speaker 1: I told you, I kind of just sunk in and
Speaker 1: watched the movie.
Speaker 2: It happened to you.
Speaker 1: I just let it happen. I just brushed it off.
Speaker 1: All of the things. I never saw anything really particularly
Speaker 1: super weird until the five a m. Mom and dad
Speaker 1: are not home still. I guess they're having a good time.
Speaker 2: No, No, I would be so panic unless your parents
Speaker 2: do that all the time and they set it up
Speaker 2: where it's like, hey, mom and dad aren't home having
Speaker 2: fun again.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I mean, I don't know, kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: To me, that was like, I agree, you're not even
Speaker 1: concerned at all all knowing that your parents were getting
Speaker 1: somewhat like you know.
Speaker 2: To me, that was all of the parents in this
Speaker 2: movie were crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, when you think about it, her parents, she
Speaker 3: just ditched out on the party and has gone till
Speaker 3: five am. His parents out partying, no problem all night long.
Speaker 3: And there it's like all the parents in this movie
Speaker 3: were weird.
Speaker 2: They were. It was weird.
Speaker 1: Weird writing for these parents, Yes, agreed, lack of care
Speaker 1: for their yes, tiny children, especially if it's like even
Speaker 1: her him saying go go to the go to Halloween
Speaker 1: trick or treating by yourself.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm eight, Yeah, yeah, I eight. I shouldn't
Speaker 2: be doing anything by myself.
Speaker 1: No, in a weird area out where there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of strangers walking around.
Speaker 2: Not we just moved here. I don't even know the town. Yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Anyways, that's all I really saw, freaking loved. I thought
Speaker 1: it was so funny. It's such a good movie. It's
Speaker 1: perfect for Halloween. It's not too scary, but it's a
Speaker 1: little spooky. It's just it's the best. It's the best
Speaker 1: kids movie I think out there for Disney's.
Speaker 6: Wow, for Halloween, Halloween. Wow, that's that's stay around Wow. Okay,
Speaker 6: so then let's let's judge. Let's let's let's rate our
Speaker 6: film then, and we're gonna do one to ten. We're
Speaker 6: gonna keep it simple, and we're gonna make one the lowest,
Speaker 6: right I do so our options this week?
Speaker 3: Do we want to do one to ten? Horny Sarah's
Speaker 3: one at ten Jensen's Elementary school Friends, Hot Sarah, Jessica
Speaker 3: Parker's one to ten, half assed rap singers, eyes wide
Speaker 3: shut vibes, one out of ten, yabos, one out of ten,
Speaker 3: Maggot museums, flirty creepo drivers, or one out of ten.
Speaker 2: Daylight Savings which is incorrect time. I think I get
Speaker 2: to pick time.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I want yas.
Speaker 3: I just want I want to continue to hear you say, Yavos.
Speaker 3: Do I go first or do you go first?
Speaker 1: I think I go first.
Speaker 2: This what he got?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not as shock. I love Kenny Ortega,
Speaker 1: not just because he's an incredible person, but I am
Speaker 1: pretty much obsessed with every piece of creation this guy makes.
Speaker 1: I think he's just's your absolute best. I love seeing
Speaker 1: this work. I love I love the storyline. There are
Speaker 1: some obvious holes and some what but I think that's
Speaker 1: just what happens. And for me looking at this movie,
Speaker 1: knowing how detailed he is, I feel like those answers
Speaker 1: that might have been answered hit the edit floor, knowing
Speaker 1: that we were at ninety six minutes. That's what I
Speaker 1: would assume because he's so detailed with things like that.
Speaker 1: But I love this movie and I'm excited that next
Speaker 1: year I will be bringing it background. I'll be back
Speaker 1: on my regimen of at least once a year with
Speaker 1: the Hope focus. I have not seen the second one,
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of figuring out, like, do I wait
Speaker 1: till next Spookie season? Because will we rewatch it?
Speaker 2: Do I want to?
Speaker 3: I'm guessing we're gonna rewatch it, so I wouldn't. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't spoil it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't spoil I don't want to spoil it. But
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what they've done. It was a
Speaker 1: long time coming till the second one came out, and
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Only m I think only the three Witches are the
Speaker 3: only only people that return for the next one.
Speaker 2: I don't think any of the.
Speaker 1: Other characters I would imagine, And to be honest, with
Speaker 1: the characters, I don't wouldn't see it makes sense to
Speaker 1: have anyone else. There's no reason to have them now
Speaker 1: as parents like the kid, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: it's not really that, it's really the Sanderson's sisters. So
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. And honestly, this is dead serious.
Speaker 1: I'm giving this a nine point five wow yahbos okay.
Speaker 2: I love that. I mean, that's that's that's what I am.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of yabos, A lot of yabos.
Speaker 3: I've had some yabos in my life, but never nine
Speaker 3: point five's that's a problem.
Speaker 1: Half of one is kind of weird.
Speaker 3: It's kind of weird. I I definitely like this movie,
Speaker 3: but it did have holes in it. I've seen better
Speaker 3: decoms that I liked, but yes, this was certainly it
Speaker 3: was fun. The three Witches were great together. Bette Midler
Speaker 3: steals this movie. It's so I'm not too far from you.
Speaker 3: I'm giving this eight point five.
Speaker 2: Oh good. No, I definitely liked it.
Speaker 3: You can see where the budget goes, you can see
Speaker 3: you get you know, these incredible actors. There's some story
Speaker 3: plot holes in it. There's some things that meet like
Speaker 3: you said, some like wait what? But it was a
Speaker 3: fun watch. It was definitely a fun watch. And I
Speaker 3: can see why people the voices through me, the voice
Speaker 3: coming out of one friend being another. I'm too I
Speaker 3: was too close to some of this, so it'll never
Speaker 3: be what other people get out of it. It's just
Speaker 3: it threw me a lot for a loop. But yeah,
Speaker 3: still a good movie.
Speaker 2: So yes, I think this is a solid eight point
Speaker 2: five yabosh. Yeah, And I can see why people watch
Speaker 2: it every Halloween.
Speaker 3: I watch Christmas Story every Christmas, and I can see
Speaker 3: why people would watch this every Halloween. So for this
Speaker 3: week's Parkopper episode, we have the one and only Kenny
Speaker 3: Ortega joining us. Yes, he is here, the man, the myth,
Speaker 3: the legend. We got him, We got him, We got him.
Speaker 3: We talked about his incredible career and the legacy he's
Speaker 3: created with his choreography in films, So.
Speaker 2: Take a listen.
Speaker 7: And when it came to the second movie, I heard
Speaker 7: that Bett wanted to do a movie that her daughter
Speaker 7: could go see, and that she wanted to make a
Speaker 7: movie that her kid could go watch, and that she
Speaker 7: really liked this script called hocus Pocus.
Speaker 5: And I said, let me read it.
Speaker 7: Let me read it because I had just done The
Speaker 7: Rose with her and Tony Basel okay, that she got
Speaker 7: nominated for an Oscar for, and then I picked hocus
Speaker 7: Pocus as my second.
Speaker 3: It was such a great conversation. You really need to
Speaker 3: go and check it out. I promise you it will
Speaker 3: be worth it.
Speaker 1: Isn't it just so crazy now that you've watched it
Speaker 1: to still think this was his only second movie he directed.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, it's crazy. It's just somebody really good at
Speaker 2: what he does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rewatching it again was like, that is wild.
Speaker 3: Did I tell you my idea of what I think
Speaker 3: will be the most amazing musical? No Is Kenny or
Speaker 3: Tega's life.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, like you do Kenny or kingfe You.
Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. You start with him as
Speaker 3: a kid learning how to dance, learning how to choreograph.
Speaker 3: You go through him being with Michael Jackson and everybody
Speaker 3: that he's doing there, then the directing and all the
Speaker 3: musical is he's done.
Speaker 2: Literally the Kenny or Take a story as a musical
Speaker 2: would be insane.
Speaker 1: I had never heard his original jump into the business,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, And it was so cool to hear.
Speaker 1: I had no idea he is that young. I had
Speaker 1: no idea that he did, you know, the directing and
Speaker 1: stuff at that's such a young age. But prior to
Speaker 1: him going into the choreography, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it was just yeah, I might just call it
Speaker 3: simply Ko the musical, but I think it would be
Speaker 3: an incredible, incredible, absolutely movie. Well, anyway, speaking of movies,
Speaker 3: our next one is supposedly a memorable one.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never heard of it.
Speaker 3: It's the two thousand often unhinged fantasy comedy starring Lindsay
Speaker 3: Lohan and Tyra Banks Life Size. All I know is
Speaker 3: that it involves magic spells, Dolls Coming to Life and
Speaker 3: a song from none other than My Boy Meets World
Speaker 3: co stars Nobody's Angel. You can also watch it on
Speaker 3: Disney Plus, so go watch it right now and enjoy
Speaker 3: the movie before we can even check it out ourselves.
Speaker 2: That's what you should do.
Speaker 3: And remember, you can catch up with all of the
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Speaker 2: Bye everybody, Bye,