WEBVTT - Hocus Pocus 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:16.919 Hey, Sabrina, Hey you will. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:17.959 Are you ready? 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.840 We're doing something a little different today, same but different, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:21.799 different but same. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.080 I am so ready. I am ready for this one. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.400 I'm ready for this one. I'm so excited because you 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:31.960 haven't seen this movie before. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.559 I'm convinced that's why our lovely producers picked this one. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.040 It had nothing to do with actually recapping this film. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.240 It was just making me watch the movie. I think 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.560 what this week was about. Am I wrong? 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.400 I don't think so. I think this could actually really 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.960 be the reason is all of us knew you needed 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:53.640 this in your life, and it was just unbelievable, gone 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.720 pretty pleasures without it, which is insane. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.680 Well, the thing that was really amazing to me is 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.680 this the random connections that I've had. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:02.920 I have with this movie too. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.200 I know, I so yeah, But we got to tell everyone. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.800 About it, get into it. We will get into it. First. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.760 Welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.080 want to grab your friends, your PJS, and your popcorn 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:13.760 and go back to a time when all the houses 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:14.440 were smart, the. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.560 Waves, tsunamis, and the high school's musical. I'm Sabrina, Bryan 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:25.240 and ah see, I gotcha and I will pronounce you 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:26.360 go reverse that. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.479 By the way, everybody, thank you, and now don't put 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.080 away that putrid pumpkin just yet, no matter how rotten 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.000 it is. Now in November, keep that gore nearby, because 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.800 we're diving into a cult classic spookfest, a movie that 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.600 flopped when originally released in theaters and has since become 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.400 a major holiday mainstay. We're jumping right into Yes, it's 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.440 nineteen ninety threes. I think I'm pronouncing this right, hocus 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:54.360 pocaias my son is hocus Pocus. Yes, were you excited? 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:55.120 Were you excited? 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.200 So excited? I actually just watched this movie for the 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.120 first time with my kids. Uh, two weeks ago. I 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.000 guess it was right before Halloween. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:05.480 Wait have you never seen it either? 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.239 No, I mean I've just watched. I introduced them. Oh, 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:13.519 but I was a little worried. Is it a little 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.680 too scary for them? You know, they're still pretty little, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.280 and I just wanted to make sure. Of course, our 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.240 producers said absolutely not, you can go ahead and have 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.440 them watch it. I did, and they loved it. They 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:25.880 loved it. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.680 It is a little scary, though, I can imagine for 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:28.240 little kids. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.680 It is actually It's funny because they loved it then, 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.440 and then when I was rewatching it again this weekend 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.280 or just a few days ago, I guess Monroe goes, oh, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.240 I don't like that movie. It was scary, and I'm like, 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.440 you did freak out once while we were watching it, 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.640 But I think her memory of it is the scary part. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:46.920 Sure, Oh no, I get that. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.000 Yeah, you know this is also one of the studio's 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:54.119 biggest surprises of all time. Apparently, so well. I mean, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.639 your kids are big, We've talked about this. Your whole 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.160 family is massive Halloween fans. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.119 Yes, we love Halloween. Love the dress, love the love 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.320 the family picks. They're my favorite of the year, pretty 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.560 much better than our holiday card picks. Probably. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.960 Yeah, right, so funny. So are we calling this an 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.880 official dcom? I mean again, it's not so. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.200 Not it's not it was it was in theaters. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.840 Yeah, this is a Disney movie that we're recapping Disney movie. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.240 But we had a really special guest that we talked 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.560 quite a bit about it with. So it makes sense 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.639 for us here on Magical Rewind to go ahead and rewatch. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.520 Yes, no, I get it, but not I get it. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.120 And it would also be impossible to enter a Halloween 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.360 store in twenty twenty five and not notice a ton 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.320 of hocus Pocus products, which is a feat in itself, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.600 because when it was first released in theaters on July sixth, 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.840 nineteen ninety three, it got mixed reviews from critics, to 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.800 say the least, and was a certified box office bomb, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.120 reportedly losing the studio over fifteen million dollars, which in 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.960 ninety ninety three are money now is eighteen point seven 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.480 billion dollars. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:56.880 That's not accurate. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.800 I just made up that calculation, but fifteen million dollars 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.240 back the day was a lot, which at the time 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.560 was considered a real fumble considering the big names, the 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.000 cost and the main cast. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.000 Critic Gene Siskel said. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.240 The movie was focused on quote dreadful witches and the 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.600 only tolerable moment came when Bette Midler's sang, that's a 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.000 bit of a stretch. Also, if you think we're releasing 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.560 a Halloween movie in July sounds odd, that's because it is. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:22.360 It is odd. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.559 Disney's strategy there was to avoid competition in the October space, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.200 but obviously that itself did not pay off, but thanks 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.280 to seasonal and repeated airings of the movie every Halloween 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.719 on both the Disney Channel and free Form. It's found 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.480 its audience not just in consumer products, but home media sales, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.080 allegedly a million dollars profit every October. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:41.760 Wow. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:42.279 It birthed. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.760 The franchise has since spond a sequel, novelization attractions at 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.440 theme parks, and the sequel that we talked about before 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.000 was released thirty years later in twenty twenty two. At 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.359 one time, the movie lost fifteen million for Disney, but 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.120 has since racked up almost sixty million in DVD and 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.600 Blu ray sales. Also, I think it has officially been 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.760 announced that Pocus three is in production. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.120 We just recently saw that. That's incredible. I'm so excited 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:08.160 for that, Okay. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.680 The concept for hocus Pocus was originally created by producer 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.240 David Kirshner, who explains that he was sitting outside with 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.599 his young daughter when a black cat walked by, and 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.520 he quickly improved a story about the feline, inventing the 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.880 Sanderson Sisters and the Winifred Brood. The movie then originally 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.040 began production in nineteen eighty four and had the working 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:32.360 title Disney's Halloween House and was reportedly much much scarier, 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.080 less comedy, more jumps, and funny enough. They shot some 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.560 of those scary scenes but didn't use them in the movie. However, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.240 they're scene in the trailer if you ever want to 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.440 watch those deep cuts, including a scene. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.200 In a supermarket. And in case you. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:46.880 Wondered if a Halloween movie is easy to make with 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.320 the happiest studio on earth, well it stalled for years 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.400 and years and years until Bette Midler, or a little 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.960 actress of her day, expressed interest in a role originally 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.039 written for Chloris Leachman, and then it was of course 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.000 fast tracked into production. Now this should come as absolutely 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.279 no surprise, but the movie was not only shot in Salem, Massachusetts. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.520 It was predominantly shot at sound stages in a slightly 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.520 less witchy burbank, California. But they did film for two 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.440 weeks in Salem, and that's why you see all those 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.680 outdoor daytime shots with realistic surroundings, including the actors' locations 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.599 like Pioneer Village, Old Burial Hill, and Max and Danny's House, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.799 which have since all become landmarks for fans to visit 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.520 on vacation, kind of like the Cheetah Girls when people 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.080 go to Spain. One of my favorite fun facts about 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.600 this movie they had a choreographer for the musical numbers, 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.599 even with a dance legend for a director. Her name 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.279 was Peggy Holmes, and she also worked with each Sanderson's 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.400 sister so that they could quote unquote fly their brooms 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.000 in character. Winnifred was more aggressive, Mary was more cautious 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:52.840 and horny. Sarah just loves to fly. Hocus Pocus and 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.080 a sequel are available to watch right now in Disney Plus. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.360 So unless you throw your remote into a cauldron, say 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.599 hocus Pocus three times and burn down your house, you 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.479 see the Watch it now or later up to you. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.800 But that's the sacred oath we've all taken together, so 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.600 we must have hunted it above all else. I think 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.559 this goes without saying that we both knew pocus Pocus 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:09.479 before Magical Rewind. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.760 But maybe the question is how many times have you 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.800 seen it? Wow? 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:19.600 I'd like to say it's pretty close, especially I kind 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.400 of feel like in my twenties is when I really 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.200 really got into it, and I feel like I've seen 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:32.400 it almost every year around Halloween Town or free time, 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:38.840 almost around Halloween Town around Halloween time. But I feel 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.440 like the last since I've had kids, No, so before 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.360 that those you know, okay, that good. Like decade, I 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.360 was watching it at least once, if not a couple 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.600 of times during the Halloween season. It's so good. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.520 I've seen it once now, a couple of days ago. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.360 It was good. Yeah, it was good. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.360 So whether you're Jay or Ice or two of the 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.880 worst lamest bullies in the history of film, get your 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.040 act together and prepare for the synopsis. The Sanderson Sisters, 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:12.360 three mischievous seventeenth century witches, are accidentally resurrected in modern 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.440 day Salem in order to steal the life force of 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.840 local children. A skeptical team, his crush, his little sister, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.200 and an immortal black cat team up to stop them 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.400 before sunrise. Early thoughts on hocus Pocus. I think we 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.760 already know this. You said you loved it. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:25.320 I did. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.040 I loved it. I loved love, loved it, And it 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.720 was so great this last year to now have seen 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.960 it twice after I haven't seen it in so long 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:37.000 and always kind of get a little bit surprised, Like 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.880 there were certain things as we were going through the 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.480 movie that I saw the first time and was writing 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.240 down while I watched it this second time, of I 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.880 forgot that just within a couple of years of not 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.520 watching it. Oh okay, And they kind of just kept 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.640 coming in the very beginning and then I settled in 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.080 and I enjoyed a great movie. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.360 Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was good. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:01.440 Definitely thought it was good. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.959 This has been so built up for me over the 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.560 years that unless it was Citizen Kane, it was never 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.679 ever going to meet the expectations that everyone put in 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:10.040 my head. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.880 Yeah, so it was a good movie. Again, I definitely 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.760 liked it, but it was so built up for me 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.640 that it couldn't possibly have been as good as everybody says. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:26.240 The three women phenomenal. I mean cool Disney villain, like 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.280 old school Cruella de Ville kind of Disney villains, and 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.880 the top Denny's. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.160 I would say, one thing that I think sticks out 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:42.800 about this movie is absolutely knowing Kenny's like artistic touch 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.160 was put on this with from the walk that the 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.520 three girls do together, there's there's just some choreography moments 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.920 in it, a lot of the working with the you know, 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.880 around the Witch's house when they're going when when we're 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.559 in there is so Kenny, and it just like kept 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.000 pop being out at me now that we've seen so 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:03.720 many of Kenny's things. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.200 And their house was awesome and they just all the 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:07.920 like the locations were really cool. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.040 Yes, Disney, but it's like 's kiss on. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.760 It as one hundred percent uh so, as Sabrina said, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.400 it was directed by a good friend of the show. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.920 The Man, the myth, the legend. Kenny Ortega, a literal 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:21.640 Disney Hall of. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.480 Famer, began his career as one of the most successful 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:24.640 choreographers of all time. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:25.720 You know the list. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.160 This is like talking about Stu Krieger stuff, working with 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.880 musicians like Madonna and Michael Jackson and contributing to movies 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:32.880 like Dirty Dancing in Ferris Peeler's Day Off. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.400 And then he entered his final form, iconic director. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.839 He's led the way on Newsies, Cheaty Girls Too, the 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.320 High school musical movies, and then the new cash cow 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:45.319 that is the descendant series. Hocus Pocus was Kenny's second 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:46.680 directorial job. 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.880 His first another Disney classic Newsies Wow, which I also 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.600 can you believe that I haven't seen Newsies either. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:54.840 That's not true. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:59.040 You have never seen Newsies that's the one with Christian 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.800 Bale where they're all singing. Yes. Never seen Newsies. I 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.880 did not like. Are you not understanding that I didn't 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:05.880 like musicals? 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:10.040 But it's that's so different? Why usies? 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:10.719 I don't know. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.440 How is it a musical? 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:17.360 Yes? Then how is it different? Yes? And there's around. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.840 There's a lot of the musical stuff that. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.079 I'm trying to get better. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.720 I'm again descendants and and zombies. I'm there all day long, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.280 so I'm trying to get better. But no, I haven't 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.600 seen Newsies. This movie, as we've been talking about, is 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.160 star studded. The Hollywood legend that got everything in motion, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.640 of course is Bett Midler. She played Winifred Sanderson, the 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.000 double threat, triple threat, quadruple threat, however you want to 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.080 put it, because she's awesome at everything. Is a three 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.640 time Grammy winner and a two time Oscar nominee whose 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.320 biggest movies include Beaches. Never seen that, but I hear 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:50.840 it's just a bunch of people on the beach First 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.440 Wives Club, which is great and ruthless people. She is 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.880 one of the biggest names of her generation, absolutely full stop. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.760 We've got Early in her career, Sarah Esca Parker as 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.560 Sarah Sanderson. This was well before she became a household 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.560 name as Carrie Bradshaw and Sex and the City, a 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:09.199 show I once unfortunately watched with my mother, and boy was. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:10.440 That an uncomfortable alb. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.320 She had appeared in movies like Girls Just Want to 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.920 Have Fun, great movie, Flight of the Navigator, great movie, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.160 and with a breakout role in La Story unbelievable movie, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.840 and Honeymoon in Vegas. She would later co star again 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.000 with Midler in First Wives Club and go on to 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.080 two Emmys and six Golden Globes. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.800 And then we have Katheen to Jimmy as Mary Sanderson. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.480 The role was originally offered to Rosie O'Donnell, who turned 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.520 it down, saying she wasn't interested in playing a quote fat, 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.480 mean witch who eats and kills kids. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.600 Unquote. Well that's a point well taken. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.760 She would later say she loved the film and wish 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.480 she could have worked with Midler and Parker, but it 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.960 just wasn't in the cards. Now, Jimmy had just come 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.720 off a huge turn in the Blockbuster's Sister Act, and 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.120 it just compiled the list of an uncountable amount of credits. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.160 Some of the Highlights. She's the voice of Peggy Ill 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:53.800 on King of the Hill. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.200 She played Olive on Veronica's Closet, and recently was Wendy 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:02.000 Keegan on theep Omrits. Played Max Denison. Not only did 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.480 he go to elementary school with producer Jensen, but he 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.920 played John ross Ewing on the TV show Dallas and 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.280 would later star in the cult TV show Eerie Indiana, 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.280 also with Jason Marsden. He stopped acting in two thousand 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.079 and did not appear in the sequel. He does, however, 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:19.040 appear at fan conventions regularly and then Familiar but a 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.120 very young faced Thora Birch is Danny Denison. Thora was 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.199 a child actor who starred in movies like Now and Then, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.199 Monkey Trouble and Clear and Present Danger. Then continued to 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.680 be in great movies like Ghost World and American Beauty. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.760 More recently, she was on the TV show The Walking 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.760 Dead and stars in the new Kristen Stewart directorial debut, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.719 The Chronology of War with Image in Poots. Some other 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.920 names worth mentioning. Doug Jones is Billy Butcherson. This was 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.240 his first real movie role, but man he turned into 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.640 an obscure character actor usually covered in makeup and prosthetics, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.360 and he's turned it into an incredibly impressive career alongside 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:56.120 director Guilleromo del Toro. Jones has been in Hellboy, Pans, Labyrinth, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.400 and the Shape of Water, and he also played Barren 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:59.640 on What We Do in the Shadows. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.280 Literally has never stopped working. I don't think he's sleeping. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:02.760 Wow. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.600 And now for the cat Thackeray Banks, it was now 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.800 this is where we get to the Will's life. It 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.400 was physically played by Sean Murray, who in adulthood he 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.800 has gone on to be in almost five hundred episodes 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.719 of NCIS's Timothy McGee. But at the time, Disney did 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.280 that like his voice while editing, so they hired a 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.040 name very familiar to me, tgif regular Jason Marsden to 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.280 come in and dub it over, which was a real 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.240 common movie theme in the eighties and the nineties that 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.840 you don't see anymore now. The thing that's weird is 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.160 I was at both of their weddings. Is that strange? 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:33.880 Whoa well? Cause? 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.960 Shawan and I did random rrs together and became friendly. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.480 He's a great guy and Marsden and I not anymore, 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.600 but were friends for years. And years and years, So 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:46.440 it was wow, Yeah, to see them and it it was. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:51.840 Strange, it was I probably wouldn't have picked up on that. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:57.040 I think you had either mentioned it before or I'd 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.960 read it before. I'm not sure, but you realize that's 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.880 happening immediately. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.280 Yeah, it seems like the voice doesn't fit in the 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:06.920 mouth flaps. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.520 Yeah, exactly. It doesn't seem like it could be his voice, 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.320 like at all, you know what I mean, not just 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.040 not necessarily SYNCD up. It just doesn't seem like it 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.880 could be his voice for some reason, which is crazy 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:22.240 because I couldn't pick the actor's voice out of anything 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.040 but Sean's voice. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.200 So well, you know, again, I haven't seen him in 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.680 a couple of years now, but we were friends for 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.280 years and years and years, and he's a great guy 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:33.480 and you know, still friendly. So the second he opens 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.280 his mouth and I hear I'm staring at one of 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.640 my friends and hear somebody else that I've known my 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.640 entire life, it's like it was very odd and it. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.280 Just it didn't fit. It just didn't fit. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.560 So I'm curious, and I mean, they couldn't do both obviously, 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.640 because the cat is supposed to be the guy, so 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.880 it had to be one voice the entire way. But 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.240 I would love to have seen what Sean did. Yeah, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:57.960 because it's interesting that they didn't like his voice. I 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.320 would like to have seen what Sean did. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:01.520 the whole thing anyway. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.440 I was also focused on the wig. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.320 Was that I never noticed that stuff, but those was 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:06.800 that a wig? 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:08.040 Was it? 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:08.760 Well? 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.080 You couldn't tell when it was just his front, like 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.240 when you just saw the front, that was his hair, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.200 but there was some type of peace in the back 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.760 to have him have a ponytail. And I didn't understand 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.840 why that neat except for it to be kind of 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:22.800 time period. 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.400 Yeah it's period. Yeah, but like it. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:26.960 It didn't. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.440 It's not gonna work for you. I couldn't get over it. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.440 Couldn't get over it. God, that's so fun. Like it did? 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.280 I get over it? Then I look at myself and go, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.080 why can't you get over stupid? 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:38.920 Just get over the head over. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.320 I am the master at holding onto stupid, so don't 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.080 even start with me. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:43.760 It's brilliant. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.120 There are people that wronged me in the second grade 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:47.960 that I will still never speak to, so I'm the 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.920 master of it. It's great, I know there's been a 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.120 lot of setup for this one, but hey, it's hocus Pocus. 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.320 So now we get to the real question of the 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.120 entire genre of the franchise. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:57.880 Of my life. How long is it? 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.200 Hocus Pocus clocks in at ninety six minutes. Oh, it's 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.800 a rough showing people six minutes over the target. Absolutely 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.000 nothing to celebrate here, And now I think I know 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.359 why it bombed in theaters, and that's six minutes his 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:10.679 life or. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:11.399 Death, I'm telling you. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.240 On the writer's side, we have producer David Kershner with 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.080 his story credit inspired by the tail he made up 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.159 for his daughter after seeing a stray black cat. But 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.600 the screenplay was created by Mick Garris and Neil Cuthbert. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.440 And if Garris's name sounds familiar to magical rewinders, that's 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.520 because he wrote the greatest thing in the history of the. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.560 World, Fuzzbucket. No, that is right. This is the man 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.320 who penned that car crash. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.679 He was an amazing stories writer who directed a lot 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.119 of Steven Spielberg's making of featurettes and has credits on 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:42.080 batteries not included the fly To and Critters To. Cuthbert 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.800 has just as weird an IMDb page. He was a 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.320 Saint Elsewhere writer. Shout out to Bill Daniels, who only 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.040 wrote four movies in total, this one, The Return to 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.000 the Swamp Thing great movie, the Ben Stiller Ensemble comedy, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:58.760 Mystery Men, Overlooked Comedy, and the horrendous Eddie Murphy film 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.280 The Adventures of Pluto. Now which is still considered like 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.439 one of the worst movies of all time. 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