WEBVTT - I Know it Wasn't (S2, E20 "Help Wanted") 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.680 I am all in, Kiss you, I am all in 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.720 with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Everybody's Scott Patterson. 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.520 I'm here with the team, Amy Sugarman, Daniel Romol, Riley 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.520 pellusis Hello, Hello for another episode of I Am all In. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.720 We're gonna recap episode twenty season to help wanted. Oh 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:40.839 my god, guys, I need us all right here. I'm 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.640 gonna say something to you. I'm about to blow your minds. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.800 We have no idea what's coming. I wept at the 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.600 end of the episode. It got me? Did it get you? 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.840 Did it get you? It? I mean it was the 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.320 floodgates opened, and I don't know, why can you explain 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.920 this to me? Because it was a amazing scene and 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.040 you both there was so much said and not set 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.760 and she says it wasn't his fault, and you said, 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.720 I know, I know it wasn't. I've been in those 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.880 situations and it just, Oh my god. I wept. I wept. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.920 I couldn't believe I was welling up. I'm like, what 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:26.000 is happening here? I Am being manipulated by witchcraft somehow? 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.560 It was very, very much episode, and that was amazing 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:36.360 ending because she was so Rory was so upset. Why 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.240 is everyone blaming him? It really it struck a nerve 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.200 because you know what she said to her mother, everybody's 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:48.880 treating me like some idiot um who has no responsibility. Uh, 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.280 and I'm sick of it because I did have some 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.640 responsibility and why are they Why are they treating me 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.520 this way? It just really struck a nerve with me. 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.600 I could relate to that so deeply, and I just 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.240 you know, it's we can't go back and do it again. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.080 We can't go back to two thousand and one to 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.760 demand more scenes between Rory and Luke because that what 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.720 what a magic combination that is because I hadn't seen 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.119 it yet, and I don't think I had. I think 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.280 is that the only scene I ever had with her 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.480 where it was just the two did have the scene 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.280 the week before where you asked her to tutor him, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.040 but lore I was sort of fringely in it. She was, 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.480 she was, but he was a part of it. This 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.680 is probably one of the first scenes I can remember 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:39.639 where it's really just the two of you, no one else. Yeah, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:45.640 I don't think that ever happened again. And the quiet 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:53.280 of that it was so minimal yeah, and what an 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.760 energy to bring into that whole experience that she was 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:02.639 going through. Luke mm because, boy, I just I forget 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.760 the I'm beginning to understand the impact of this character. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:08.840 And I don't want to make this all about me. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.000 There's a lot going on in that episode. I'm just 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.639 but I just finished watching it. Heart. I guess it was. Yeah, 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:19.800 I guess it was. And him not being there, I 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.280 mean I really felt it, you know, And I was 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.240 wondering if he was going to come back in and 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.120 the anticipation of that, and there he was in a 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.600 perfect scene. It was a perfect scene. I agree, because 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.960 just the way she walks up and there he is, 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.120 and there's so much unsaid that those two don't need 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.280 to say to each other. He really is a father figure, 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.880 it really is to her. I just wish there was 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.640 more of it, and I don't think the impact would 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.080 have been less if there was more Rory and Chess. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.360 I mean, I'm sorry. Was that a slip of the tongue. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:02.320 Don't put me on the couch, please, it's not. You know. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.480 It's interesting because you're typically very critical of yourself and 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.119 you liked that scene. I love that scene. I love 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.640 the tenderness of that scene. I love, it was just 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.240 so tender and she was so I mean, you know, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.920 where's Christopher, where's her dad? Where? Where? You know? An 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.000 I leave like gone fishing? You know, a huge sign 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.919 that said gone fishing. It's pretty funny. But I also 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.039 think that Rory goes to Luke because he's the only 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.360 one that can't understand her point of view. Everyone else 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.839 hates him, but Luke actually knows him, you know, you know. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:43.039 I also think because there is some element here. Rory 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.920 is a strong girl who makes her own decisions, and 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:54.240 she doesn't like that the town is like, oh that boy, 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.680 that boy made you do something, and like like he 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.600 like that just kidnapped her and help her against her 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.080 will and forced her in the car. Like she is 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.320 stronger than that. So I think that's also part of 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.560 the reason why she's like, what the hell is going on? 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.279 I told him to turn right. I don't blame her, Yeah, 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.760 now I see her point of view. It's like just 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:19.279 because I'm you know, so doe eyed and and soft, 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.080 don't mess with me, man. And I don't know. I 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.560 think I think Laurel I was bullying her a little bit. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.520 That big fight at the end. Yeah, what did you 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:32.240 think of that? I mean, tremendous scene, no question about it. 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.120 I like the way they paused and sort of gathered 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.000 themselves and said, Okay, I don't want to fight anymore. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.719 But this is how people, you know, I see loyalized 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.440 point of view, I see Rory's point of view. I 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.320 see that, I see they're both justified. And this is 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:52.680 just the nature of conflict. And again, perfectly place, structurally speaking, 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.760 towards the end and a scene of conflict and all 0:05:55.800 --> 0:06:00.440 this was driving This is the way to reveal information, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:05.240 by the way, that's exposition. That is Rory's character revealing 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.640 how she feels in a in a in a heated 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.920 scene of conflict towards the end of the piece. And 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:18.160 that is a perfectly structured, perfectly placed, um scene. If 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.680 you're going to reveal information, that's how you reveal exposition 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.560 by the way that that is perfectly executed and perfectly structured. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:34.200 So bravo. Yeah they do. And um it was a 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.880 really good episode. What do you think of this episode? 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.760 I give it very high marks. You know, anything with 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.839 a lot of ed Herman and in it is going 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:47.159 to be just wonderfully entertaining, engaging. He's he's a very 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:52.000 powerful presence. He's he's you know, he's he's very light 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.839 on his feet, isn't He's a very elegant actor. He's 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.120 even though he really he really holds the ground and 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.359 he's he's he's very um, you know, he's so present. 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.080 I mean, it's such a large but he is also 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.520 very nimble as an accurate and and and very elegant. 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:14.960 And their scenes together are just and right. And I 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.280 loved seeing how he saw her, maybe for the first 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:22.040 time since she realized her potential when she was growing up. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.640 It's like, finally they're bonding and he's his eyes are opening, 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.320 and my daughter really is kind of an extraordinary woman, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.640 isn't she. She's so competent. And you know what I 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.840 loved is that we didn't have to deal for very 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.720 long with his disappointment that she was not going to 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.400 work there with him, because I was like, oh, I 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.160 hope they don't like the labor this and it was like, oh, 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.880 at the party there was the assistant secretary that Lorelai wanted, 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.280 and it was all good. And then they had that 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.040 little like chat with each other with the lingo and 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.240 and we were good. I was like, yeah, that's how 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.160 it should be. But she was in the right. It's like, hey, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.280 I'm not like rent a secretary. Here. I got my 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.800 own life that I built and I know you want 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:08.800 this and it's all working out beautifully and you respect 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.120 me now and you see I'm competent and you actually 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.600 are starting to like love me again as your daughter 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.600 and seeing me as somebody that you're not. You know, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.080 you're not riding me hard, you're not putting me down, 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.160 You're not you're not giving me dirty looks anymore. You're 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.200 looking at me with love and you're looking at me 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.000 with respect because I'm helping you and I'm competent and 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:28.880 you can see this, and you can see what I am. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.120 You can see that I didn't ruin my life and 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.199 here I am. I'm Laura I Gilmore and all her 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:40.160 glory helping you see your way through this, uh you know, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.920 post retirement resurgen business venture, you know what I mean. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.840 And it was one It was one wonderful to watch it. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.760 And when she when she laid the law down on him, like, hey, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.720 I'm just here to help you for a couple of days, Dad, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:57.000 I cannot stay here, I'm not coming back tomorrow. He 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.360 got really but hurt because he knew she was right 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.040 and he wasn't going to get his way. Well, yeah, 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.959 he was so disappointed, just so good right, he wanted 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.840 her there, love being around her, and then her be 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:16.439 so skilled at running and office, all that experience she has, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.080 you know, and and the chemistry is there. We saw 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:27.080 that beautiful chemistry emerge between those two without him judging her. Right, 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.680 it's not surprising that she's so successful because he is 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.920 so successful, but also so is Emily. Emily doesn't get 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.080 a lot of credit, but like she puts on those 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.560 parties and those events, that's like a full time job 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:46.640 that she does. So I do think Lorela learned a 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:51.640 lot from them about how to be a successful businesswoman. Well, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.120 she's in the perfect profession, you know, running an in 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:00.360 keeping everything on time and classy, and she knows how 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.800 to make up for flubs and screw ups and just 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.080 send him in a free thing and a free rose 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.920 thing and a free chocolate and a free dinner. Free, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:10.520 just go ahead and take care of him. And you 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.480 know that's what you do. So many people don't have 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.920 many questions. Go ahead, go ahead, let's start with everybody. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.920 But really this is for Scott. What did you think 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:25.400 about sort of the idea that Luke went fishing he 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:30.320 just had to get out. Absolutely. I mean it's it's 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:35.160 the logical next move for Luke. It's like, go sit 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:40.559 in nature, forget about this garbage and uh, you know, disappear. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.800 Go can go do his you know Henry David Threau, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.480 go go commune with nature. Catch a fish. Town was 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:51.520 like you know what I mean. The town is lining 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:56.640 up outside the diner. So it's like they're realizing, like, hey, 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.640 this guy matters. And I think even though Lord I 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.120 wouldn't admit it, Rory really did, Like I think that's 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.200 scared Lord Lie like, oh god, no, this isn't my fault. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.400 She can't find a dead cheeseburger. She couldn't find one 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.800 or good coffee. Yeah, So I thought it was like 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:22.880 really the right move for the character. It's exactly what 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:29.640 Luke would have done. It's just step away. That's Luke, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.080 and we knew he's coming back, Like it wasn't like 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.600 he's left town, but like make him suffer withdrawn and 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:40.560 make him suffer. Yeah, I'm sure Luke didn't have a 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:46.320 great time fishing. He didn't catch them on by himself 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:51.160 in nature. The fish weren't biting, not getting any nibbles. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.040 But you know he had to. I'm sure he got 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.120 something out of it, right. He seemed he seemed very 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.480 calm when he came back. He wasn't his usual self, right, Yeah, 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.920 he did. He seems very calm, didn't he? And I 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:08.719 attribute that to my high quality acting skills. Thank you 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.640 very much. Like and gentlemen, how do you come into 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:17.079 the scene important? What an important point? I'm I'm breaking 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.920 my arms patting myself on the back, But it's really 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.840 important that you pointed that out, because yeah, that was 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.599 so important to that scene, to us, and so noticeable 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:30.959 the scene. That scene, I mean, I know I said, 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.240 it was so quiet. It was nice, just the two 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.800 of them. He was calm, Yeah, and she's so calm. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.200 They were both calm. He you know, I don't remember 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.160 anything about filming that scene. I don't remember that scene 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.120 at all, and I wish I did. Yeah, I don't 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:51.440 remember a thing about it. And but but now I 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.960 can see, you know, the technique coming into play where 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.320 I know I was asking myself all those questions, how 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:03.600 am I coming into this scene, what's the demeanor? What temperature? 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.440 Are you coming into this scene? And it has to 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.040 be different from any other scene you've ever done, because 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.120 you're with Rory now and it's quiet, and it's late 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.880 at night, and you didn't catch any Fitch Fitch Fitch 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.360 fish and certainly didn't catch any fitch um. There were 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.400 no Fitch to be caught. I was probably Fitch to 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.520 be tied because I didn't catch any fitch um. There 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.000 was such an how did this turn into Dr Seuss 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:34.560 all of a sudden? It's such an understanding between maybe 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.800 the two of you as actors, but also the two 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.240 of you as the characters. It's like Luke just gets 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.480 it and Alory just gets it, and they're just like 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.000 on the same page. We both love Jess, we both 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.240 see his potential. We're both heartbroken that he's not there. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.840 We're both heartbroken that he got you know, stars hollow 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.800 as a meat grinder for a guy like that, he's 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.560 just not going to get away with that behavior. It's 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.920 too small town, um. You know. I also think it's 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:07.079 because Luke respects Rory really and truly, like he's saying, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.000 not only do I respect you that this isn't your fault, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.840 it isn't his fault, this isn't anyone's fault. This was 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.079 an accident and no one's in trouble and no one's 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:22.040 to blame and thank god, everyone's okay. Like just like that, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:30.640 like Luke isn't going to demean Rory by acting like, oh, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.800 you're just you know, like I said, like when youreually 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.400 a little girl who got like, you know, tricked by 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.960 a boy, it's like, no, Well, I think he respects 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:45.160 her brain. I think they're not close enough where he 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.840 feels like he has it's his place to get into 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:54.320 close to her or too deep inside her her life 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.480 where he is going to get judge or or you know, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.200 start give being his opinion, and you know he's he's 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.320 he's at a comfortable distance I think with with Rory. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.280 And I think that's the way it should be because 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.080 he's just friends with Laurela anyway. I just think he 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.440 also I think he respects her decision making, which is 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.160 why he is like trusting her with Jesz, like tutoring 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.400 Jess or being friends with Jess. Whereas like let's talk 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:30.320 about Taylor's reaction, like all that pub did this to you? Do? 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.200 You know what I mean? Like, whereas no one is 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.440 like giving Rory the benefit of the doubt, is it 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.200 like she knew what she was doing. I gotta tell you, 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.800 that's my favorite line in the whole thing is Taylor says, 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.920 taking opioids like some of like those Hollywood people do. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:55.000 He gave her the face. I laughed so hard. I 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.640 was like, Wow, he's like but that's you know, let's 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.680 get in to that a little bit, because that's how 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:07.320 people feel about Hollywood people. They do they just do, right. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.600 I mean, I'm not trying to stir controversy here, but 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.880 it's it's, you know, people are tired of being preached at. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.680 It's like, can we just live our lives? And like, 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.280 look what you guys are doing over there? And was 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:24.600 just such a funny line. That was a great scene. Waum. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.760 I want to get Riley and Danielle's perspective, but I 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:33.120 know that we need to you know what, the fish 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.160 has been taken out of the bull. What the heck 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.120 are you talking about? You know what you're supposed to do, Scott, 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.080 The fish has been taken out of the bull. There 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.800 you go, you know, what I'm feeling like. Let's towel 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:51.960 off a little bit. Taken the ball, the eagle has landed. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.480 There's fish, there's eagle. What's going on? All right, everybody, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.960 let's let's towel off. For God's sake. I'm sweaty. I'm 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.200 gonna take this off. I wanna take a little break. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.200 We come back. We're gonna address one of the biggest controversies, 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.960 by the way, uh in this episode. All right, we'll 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:14.800 see in a bit. Yeah, alright, we're back, everybody. We 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.119 are going to discuss one of the biggest controversies in 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.840 this entire episode, which is I want all of you 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:29.720 to give your opinions. Deans reaction too. I have I 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:34.200 have a word or two about that. I must say, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:39.280 as a protector of Rory, I felt that his reaction 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:43.720 bordered on inappropriate violence. I did. I did not feel 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.080 comfortable with him kicking the bag like that. I did 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.920 not feel comfortable with a six ft four, glowering, angry 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:56.600 seventeen year old um going what what what and then 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.000 kicking the back. I mean, it was like she was scared. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.240 She got scared, and I thought I shouldn't be laughing. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.640 It's just your imitation, but good acting on his part. 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:10.240 Three different what's the temperature kept going up? But I thought, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.399 I don't know if I want Rory in this situation 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.080 with this guy reading this letter, what he's reading taking 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.399 in it was bordering on he was going to whacker 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.359 and and I just did not like that. I was 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.320 ready to jump through the screen and say, pal go away. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.600 What do you guys think? Did you feel uncomfortable for her? 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:38.679 Slightly different perspective, I I agree with you. For two minutes, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.359 I was like, oh my god, angsty Dean is back, 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.119 like he is here, he is raging. But then he 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:49.480 had this like weird switch and he was like, you 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.920 know what, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let him win. 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.119 That's what I was saying to myself. He was like, 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.120 I'm not going to let him get the best of me. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.919 And then he totally was like you want roast, You 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.480 want to come in, you want to eat some roast. 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.040 Like literally, the juxtaposition of like the first seconds of 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.879 Dean to the end was so different. And yeah, he 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.600 was insane in the beginning, but then he just had 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:15.160 this like switch and I was like, oh, okay, Dean 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.439 like I'm going to give you props for that that 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.800 you're going to just say, you know what, I'm not 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.320 gonna let this get to me. You know what. I 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.280 think that's a dialogue I had in my head. Just 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:28.920 to interject here, I think he's done and I don't. 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.640 I don't. I don't know what's coming. But but I 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.480 I seem like, no, I think that he has decided 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.919 to move on in that moment. Am I wrong? I 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.720 had a different take on it, But Riley, you go first. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.119 I feel like, I mean, and I might be in 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.760 on this one and the same I was like for 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.840 one w I was like Dean Razor standards like don't 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.560 don't just like go have it like I would be 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.520 really mad, stay mad, take some type apart, think about 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.800 process your feelings. Don't just like come break up with 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.639 just do something like So, Riley, my question for you 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:07.840 there is it's not the accident that he should be 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.080 upset about. It's that she was like basically on a 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.560 date with Jess exactly he was. She was spending time 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.720 with Jess again alone while he was out of town. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.760 I would I would be like, right, you're not tutoring. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.600 I'm not mad at her for tutoring Jeff. That's totally cool. 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.320 But like, right, if I was Dean, I'd be a 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.280 little suspect on like wait, why are you going to 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.040 get ice cream? And why are you driving around in 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:35.880 the car like they were on a date. So yeah, 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:40.000 my take on it is just that Dean's relieved, so 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:44.320 relieved that Jess is gone that he's just like so happy, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.560 like Okay, now I just get what I want. I 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.679 don't have to worry about this anymore. So it's like 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.000 he's not even like going there with the fact that 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.520 like she wants Jess, she wants to be with Jess, 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.560 she's on this date with Jess. He's just like, oh good, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.200 is he gone? Like is really gone? Yeah, he's gone. Okay, 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.720 good on some roast who believes that, like literally, I 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.439 was like Rory, like he Jess is coming back like 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.520 next weekend, you know, Like no, you don't believe that 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.040 she's coming back next weekend. You'll see. I'm not going 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.400 to say because it's so major what happens. It's I mean, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:25.119 we're coming to the end of the season, guys. Everyone 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.439 has to remember we're coming to the end of the season. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:31.240 You know, you know, what's what's also notable is in 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.360 the arc of the series, in the narrative of the series, 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.320 this kid's stuff is taking over, isn't it. I mean, 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.720 this is really becoming like kind of the thrust of 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.480 the show. And I know c W are at the time. 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.280 I think it became c W after year one of 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.399 the series. It really exkews younger younger. They were really 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.480 trying to go younger, younger, younger. So it's all I 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.600 don't know. For me, it's a fifty fifty, a real 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:02.520 solid Gilmore girls are. Rory is half the storyline and 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:05.080 whatever is impacting her, whether it's a relationship, it could 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:06.879 be with her mom, could be with her grandparents, and 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.200 then lower La is really truly half the story line. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.840 And sometimes it's with Rory, sometimes it's with you, sometimes 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:15.320 with her significant other, her work, her parents. For me, 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:20.080 it's just a perfect fifty fifty kid adult story. I 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.920 don't know. I think it feels to me, okay, so yeah, 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.760 so it feels to me like the kids stuff is 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.679 the A story and the adult stuff is to be 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:34.640 the adult stuff is supporting the A story. We'll gonna disagree, 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.399 I'm gonna disagree, but I respect it because it's a 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:42.239 real close, real close, and it is compelling, and I 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.600 like how they weave it in and they don't dwell 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.679 on it. It's just the sort of scenes that really pop. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.880 They're well placed, they're well acted, they're well written, um, 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:57.320 super impactful. Speaking up, as we have all this going on, 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.359 we have two other things to talk about, one being 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:04.120 Carol Kay. Yeah. Wow, wasn't she great? Yeah? And so 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.480 that was just a complete storyline in and of itself 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:13.200 for Lane that I liked. Yeah, great stuff, great stuff. 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.399 She discovered her purpose in life. What a moment in 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.840 somebody's life to discover their purpose in life they want 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.280 to be a drummer. And what a great scene when she, 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:24.400 after she excitedly explained this to to Rory, she walks 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:28.199 back inside and joins the choir, her mother's choir, singing 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:34.479 Bible songs. So I thought that was really cool. And 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:39.320 then another sort of totally independent storyline was the fact 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.440 that Lukes's closed and off they go to the Hungry Diner, 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.359 which I'm not even clear where the Hungry Dinner was, 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.200 but I thought it was hilarious that Shell was there. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.960 I thought that was awkward. That was an awkward scene 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:53.119 for me because he was being so hostile to his 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:58.240 boss in a public place. He stood up and snootied 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:02.600 out of there without having touched his eggs. I mean, 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:07.440 it's like, I think, I think there needed to be more. 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:09.680 There needed to be more to that scene, or there 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.399 needed to be less to that scene. I did. That 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.760 scene did not work for me. I thought her reaction 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.640 was off, off the mark because she was still so 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.800 sunny and optimistic, and you know, she just got abused 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.240 by that guy, her employee. Oh but it's so him, 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.240 and I know it's so him, and it was funny 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.320 in the beginning of his table, Can I have a bite? 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:30.760 And I don't want to give away my favorite line, 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.879 but it's can I have a bite? Get away from me? 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.880