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Speaker 4: When I say the Internet has torn me up and

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Speaker 4: then after that baby, body was unanimously profound, like everybody

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Speaker 2: The Decisions Decisions. Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 2: The Cision. The Cision.

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Speaker 1: It's your girl MANDYB and it's your girl Weezy. And

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Speaker 1: if you've watched us before, you know we don't normally duties,

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Speaker 1: so we are here a self profession. We had to

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Speaker 1: send out our girls that he should get indexed cars

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Speaker 1: from the CVS because we said, oh, let's let's get together.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like we won't have it together because

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Speaker 1: this is our girl all.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to have our third time. We're coming

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Speaker 2: now real quick. Do you want to do the introduction?

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Speaker 1: Because for anyone who's watching us for the very first time,

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Speaker 1: this is our third time sitting with the.

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Speaker 2: Legend the miskep keep a job. But do we want

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Speaker 2: to give you know what type of introduction we want

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Speaker 2: to give? Girl? I don't ready? She was in Well, okay, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what everybody's talking about on miyam when it comes

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Speaker 1: to you right now is pull outis oh?

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Speaker 4: And the verbs and the yes, the verbs yes a

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Speaker 4: billion minutes shout out to and are so.

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Speaker 1: And also for y'all who don't know to the last

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Speaker 1: time that we got to sit together was in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: one of them days. By the way, guys, how amazing

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Speaker 1: like and we got to see it before it even dropped.

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Speaker 1: How amazing to even be a part of a project

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Speaker 1: that was like the highest grossing black women led movie

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Speaker 1: at like last year. You've just been killing it And

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Speaker 1: I think before that we talked about key TV.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you busy.

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Speaker 4: Girl, Like every time we get together, we've both been

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Speaker 4: just like on our mission.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what else He's been crazy. Now you're

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Speaker 2: a podcaster. Can we have any job? Kigi, you gotta

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Speaker 2: do clothe What food have you done?

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Speaker 4: Because I do need to get into the restaurant. Toure

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Speaker 4: business food always got a restaurant shout.

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Speaker 2: Out to Linden.

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Speaker 1: And I also say, I don't know if you know

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Speaker 1: your podcast name has become.

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Speaker 2: Like a saying with the girls. So I was with

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Speaker 2: my home boy, uh literally in New York.

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Speaker 1: We're at Mason in Harlem and literally says babies keep

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Speaker 1: all And I was like, why did did you know?

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Speaker 1: I was just about to see her? He just said

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. Man.

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Speaker 1: Listen, what if you had to pick which is sucked up?

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Speaker 1: Because if you don't wanna, you don't want to not

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Speaker 1: sell the stuff. I'm thinking, like, really, what's the one

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Speaker 4: Yes, when I get to be in my office, Oh,

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Speaker 4: she said my business had on and I'm strategizing with

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Speaker 4: the practice boy prom were getting rented to launch. We

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Speaker 4: Make sure we're putting everything with that. Let's call up Amazon,

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Speaker 4: right and let's let him know that we like I.

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Speaker 4: When I'm in that bag, I'm just like I'm the

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Speaker 2: Where you work, you work in your bed, you know.

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Speaker 4: How it is. Anywhere I need to I could be

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Speaker 4: Girling Delta one in lax. They're not playing.

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Speaker 4: So Cook be Delta to call me. We got bit,

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Speaker 4: I always thought I need to call Delick Diamond.

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Speaker 1: You ain't elto six Delta call us, Delta, call up

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Speaker 2: I'm we a little loud. I ain't gonna hold you

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Speaker 4: Conversation supposed to be private and it's just so.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever notice.

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Speaker 4: structure top at the Elton Johns party.

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Speaker 4: When she pulled that up, Molly's out to Molly my silas,

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Speaker 4: the Oscar. So we're sitting there, were eating the fool

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Speaker 4: Lucky me, I get to sit right next to my girl,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was I did, but I

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Speaker 4: It's like an old phone now breaks in the bag.

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Speaker 2: Now delicious, like that was your first thought, not the

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Speaker 4: I already had bought it. Oh was already mine and

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Speaker 4: it was definitely expensive. So I'm taking to myself, how

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you what's so good about this. This

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Speaker 4: I look to my left and I take Tiffany, my

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Speaker 4: I'm not kidding. She had some crazy blue in her bag.

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Speaker 4: She pulls the stuffing the crazy blue out. She glues

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Speaker 4: She says, hold on, I want to stick to your bag.

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Speaker 4: I got it right now to you.

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Speaker 2: Wait the wig? Do you remember that this is yours?

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Speaker 2: What's the last cheapy DP? Like do you do you

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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna hold you. I love a gits and

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Speaker 4: Five what does it do? Why did I get it?

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Speaker 4: that Sea tea about Oh my gosh. I love Etsy

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Speaker 2: This one lady.

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Speaker 4: I wish I could drop her name right now, but

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what you did some mad team. I

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Speaker 2: was at Black on the Block and I said, you

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Speaker 1: There was a girl that was selling T shirts and

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Speaker 1: there was a huge a frame of Kiki Keky Palmer has.

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Speaker 4: Warned that's fabulous, and I said, you had a marketer shit.

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Speaker 2: I took a picture of it. I said, did you know?

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Speaker 1: And you were like, I'm in Australia, but no, listen,

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Speaker 2: But I am expecting I'm about to be on my buck.

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Speaker 1: Seeing you do pilates. So we both jumped into plates.

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Speaker 1: Just like, ah, that's too expensive, But then I'm spending

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Speaker 4: And nowness, well is it? Because I feel like with

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Speaker 4: It's a culture.

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Speaker 4: You know, let's sip tea, but let it not be bittern.

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Speaker 1: Now leading into health and core and all the stuff

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Uh, and you got you

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Speaker 4: Ain't real.

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Speaker 2: And but ain't because I don't do much of those things.

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Speaker 1: So I do want to talk about how getting to

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Speaker 2: Oh so how do we just like that?

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Speaker 4: Because I don't seek in fot.

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Speaker 4: You've been had Joe manages. I don't know if this

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Speaker 2: That's colorious, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I talked about how actually when I wasn't the

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Speaker 2: And what's crazy is maybe that's why it's so difficult

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Speaker 1: It's not that there's not anyone out there, but when

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Speaker 1: you become the best version of yourself, whether it be

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Speaker 1: through working out, whether it be through therapy, whether it

443
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,920
Speaker 1: be like damn, I'm that bitch, Yeah, it makes it

444
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,600
Speaker 1: harder for you to want to share your space with.

445
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Speaker 4: What you're speaking to is something that I remember. Sierra

446
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,880
Speaker 4: also changed. Excuse me. Sierra also said as well, where

447
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 4: your taste changes. And that's no shade, right, but like

448
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 4: as you think and change your life, you acquire different tastes,

449
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 4: and so I do think that. Yeah, Like I'm not picky,

450
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 4: but what interests me, what I'm open to, are different

451
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 4: than they were before. And so it's it's like you're

452
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 4: caught in between what you used to like, who you've become,

453
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Speaker 4: and what it looks like for where you're going.

454
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Speaker 2: Is there any like toxic trait of a man that

455
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Speaker 2: you used to be used to be? Like, I'm gonna

456
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 2: look past it her. Yeah, I really like this, and yeaw,

457
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 2: you won't do that.

458
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 4: I will say this is toxic, and I'll use it

459
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Speaker 4: lightly because toxic, you know, we just air that tossic

460
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Speaker 4: and I hope everybody move forward.

461
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Speaker 2: You know what I say?

462
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 4: When I had toxic, I feel like a change.

463
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Speaker 2: So I hope that.

464
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Speaker 4: But I think something that I used to, uh, you know,

465
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 4: have time for that don't have time for is like

466
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 4: do the things you say you're gonna do for yourself.

467
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 4: When somebody used to not show up for they self,

468
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 4: I would recognize I've always shown up for myself, right,

469
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 4: But I could recognize the feeling and the emotion in

470
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Speaker 4: somebody where they feel unseen.

471
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Speaker 2: Mmmm.

472
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 4: And then but if you don't catch that in the

473
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 4: right time, then you start not seeing yourself.

474
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Speaker 2: Do you wanna when you see that happen? Do you

475
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 2: want to be the healer? Do you want to do

476
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:21,959
Speaker 2: it for them?

477
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 4: I think I end up feeling the vibe and then

478
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 4: now I'm reliving the shit I dido phase first, you

479
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Now I'm in phase one. I

480
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 4: want to go back into a new book. And then

481
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 4: by the time i'm that happens, they still in that

482
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 4: first book. And so it's like I just outpaced it,

483
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. So anyway, I guess what I'm

484
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 4: multimately saying is I you know I could feel you,

485
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 4: but I ain't gotta be with you. You know, I

486
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 4: can feel you as a as a friend, and I

487
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 4: can connect. I can see myself in you.

488
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Speaker 2: I remember when I was like, I remember when.

489
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Speaker 4: You can get through that. But that don't mean we

490
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Speaker 4: be together, right, you know what I'm saying as opposed

491
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Speaker 4: to maybe it's like being somebody that's where you are,

492
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like and I And that's

493
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Speaker 4: why they say that like equally yoke. A lot of

494
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 4: times I used to feel bad about that because it's

495
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Speaker 4: like we all we all loved in God's eyes. Was like,

496
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 4: that's not really what that means. It means like just

497
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Speaker 4: that you swimming at eight feet. I'm swimming in eight

498
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Speaker 4: feet just because I know what it was like to

499
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Speaker 4: be in three feet. Don't mean I gotta be over

500
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Speaker 4: there with you. Now. I can't go to eight feet

501
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 4: because all you can do is swim in three feet, right, But.

502
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Speaker 2: Mom, Mom, you can't.

503
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Speaker 4: Let's love filming.

504
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: You can't do that. Yeah, let's love.

505
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Speaker 4: She looks cute.

506
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

507
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Speaker 1: We you know, we don't do this at the house normally.

508
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Speaker 1: That's my mother in the back, uh, she said, she coming,

509
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Speaker 1: I'm making devil leggs so hilarious, leading into that we

510
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: have a segment called reactionary. Yeah, and where I think

511
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: a lot of us are, even whether we're in relationships

512
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Speaker 1: or dating.

513
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Speaker 3: Right.

514
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: I saw this interesting.

515
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: Video aboutside it what it looks like to kind of

516
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: choose yourself, and it leads into this word we talked

517
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: about toxic, but there's also this word called bread cup crumbing.

518
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: And I wanted to play this video see and I

519
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: don't want.

520
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you've never heard that one, never heard

521
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 4: of this, so I want y'all not hear break from it,

522
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 4: but like it could be so many different content, So.

523
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: I want to play this video and get your reaction

524
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: from it.

525
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: Come on, two fingers short. I know that you want

526
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 4: to be with me because it feels like you're just

527
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 4: barely round, so you can need just enough attention to

528
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 4: keep wanting you, but never enough to secure it.

529
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 2: Is what I need to know how you feel.

530
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 4: So you have no intention? Come on, it's not going

531
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Speaker 4: to change. That doesn't good.

532
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: She is crazy.

533
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 5: The focused if you want, I don't want to. I

534
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 5: like the idea that one day will choose me a chance.

535
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Speaker 5: I guess we just keep doing this till one of

536
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 5: those skips up. Ye, I'll be anxiously waiting.

537
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: So this isn't.

538
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: So it's an exaggerated form of where unfortunately a lot

539
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: of women find themselves when they're dating guys. They have

540
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: the intention and desire more, but they receive only what

541
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: the man gives them because it's just enough.

542
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: But you know that's a reflection of you too.

543
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: But it also we're taught that men have to lead,

544
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: so a lot of women are facing themselves. Yeah, when

545
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: I've made that mistake, I've had to recognize it as

546
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Speaker 1: an adult. But before it was like, okay, well I'm

547
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Speaker 1: not going to tell him what I want because he's

548
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Speaker 1: got to come to me.

549
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Speaker 4: I also think we don't give ourselves enough credit as women,

550
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 4: and people don't give us enough credit. Girl, you know

551
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: you don't want shit neither. Don't stop acting like you

552
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 4: affect him in this. You're looking for something to do

553
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 4: on Saturday as well. We always try to play this

554
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: role sometimes where we're like he's not giving it, No,

555
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 4: you got exactly what you want.

556
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Speaker 2: Sometime, oh my god, oh my god, you're talking to

557
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 2: sometime he too.

558
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: That's what we try to act like. We try to

559
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: fill this role and make it people who know it.

560
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 4: Ain't you got exactly what you're looking for a ride

561
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: it or you don't want to ride it?

562
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Speaker 2: No, but no, oh you right? And I think that too.

563
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: I said, I love that you say that because yes,

564
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: a lot of things Unfortunately the rhetic, the rhetoric is

565
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: men ain't shit.

566
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: But it's like as women are we.

567
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 4: Are we we getting exactly what we asked?

568
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: And do we really know that we want more? And

569
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: are we ready for more? Because we're also maybe just

570
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: right here because this is just enough? Are you talking

571
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: about when he really ain't ship? Like, hey, look she

572
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: going back today?

573
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: No?

574
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: No, no, you see it.

575
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Speaker 1: Let me explain when I come over in the building,

576
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: just kind of stopped up, and I know the lights

577
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: may turn off at any moment.

578
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: Becaun's crazy.

579
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Speaker 4: No, but what you just said was, but the sex

580
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: is good. You've been exactly what you asked, you know,

581
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 4: and you're paying for it in the bell you know,

582
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: you know, I'll.

583
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: Get that uberes, I'll order the food.

584
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 4: You just sit and I think you gotta be real

585
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 4: what they say.

586
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: But that's also I think the problem right now, So

587
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: when we talk about that that being de whipped, bit whipped,

588
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: when the sex is good, and the sex can be

589
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: good across you know, multiple people. Girl, when you know

590
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: we say here work, when we walk on the commissharing

591
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: and you know you're can, I say, but the conversation

592
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: around sexy and how we have it a lot of

593
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: time that blurs our decision making and with money.

594
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: Now you what you just said.

595
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: As a woman, we may want a real relationship, we

596
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: want love, but when it's good, nothing else sometimes.

597
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: Seems some matter, or we'll stick around as long as

598
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: we can.

599
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: I think we got to be real with the parameters, right,

600
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: Like people got to start really having real conversations. I

601
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: don't think we're having real conversations with sex. And I

602
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 4: get it. Maybe this is also like a part of

603
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 4: the gray space that people need to be turned on,

604
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 4: which is part of the problem. But like just say,

605
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 4: look bullfull, you know, I look like we're doing the badroom.

606
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 4: I don't need no more. Let's just do this, Let's

607
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 4: let's figure it out, like when you free, I'm free,

608
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: Like let's let's be respectful with each other. But like

609
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 4: I don't need no more for you.

610
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 1: I don't think it's starts startings like that. I think

611
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: they Lion Phil is get involved?

612
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: How did they get involved?

613
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: You? That's how you fuck me? And then it's like

614
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: maybe I'm too detached. I'm not gonna look out. Is

615
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: a character? Stop? I'm out?

616
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: Like, just be a character.

617
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: Get in it.

618
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: You know we've got a compartmentalize in a in a

619
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 4: healthy way.

620
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll all right? People are really doing?

621
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: What thought of that? The conversation where people.

622
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: Don't think that they are because you know how guys,

623
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 4: because we always got twelve different things we're doing at once.

624
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: We're amazing at multitesk. But I think that society has

625
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 4: also put us in this position with our relationships where

626
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: we have to play only one or two roles. Why

627
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: put on Spike Lee's movie with the Lady.

628
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: John There was another whole movie, but that was Oh yeah,

629
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: she said, Spike.

630
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 4: Lee, come of the TV show. Yeah, the movie, the movie.

631
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: She's gotta have it. Oh no, now she's got to

632
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: have it.

633
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: No way is she confused me? She had three boyfriends,

634
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: that's you, three boyfriends.

635
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 4: That was a sketch. That moment I need, like I

636
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: need just that moment. But yet that move bore is

637
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: like living your truth by.

638
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: What's good for you However, then you do it as

639
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: a woman and you're called a Jezebel by all of America.

640
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: I need just.

641
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: So, as women, how are you liberated? One guy you

642
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: may only like his his sex.

643
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: Your dinner with this dude, you may like, you know,

644
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: going to bed with that guy. You may like, you know,

645
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: talking to this dude on the phone. Look, it's called

646
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 4: dating for a reason. You're not married, damn, as long

647
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 4: as we're being married. But married men have to be

648
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 4: stopped when they don't know if they swinging, They don't

649
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 4: know like is your wife involved or not?

650
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: What have you had?

651
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: Its hilarious question? Oh my gosh, you hold why do

652
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 4: you hold like a forty?

653
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: You know?

654
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: We hear about Hollywood parties, right yeah, how they get

655
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: nasty And I'm not talking about the one you just

656
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: came to them birth with job.

657
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: So has there been like a celebrity couple that was like.

658
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: No, but I feel like people have wanted Well, actually

659
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: somebody did once and they came up to me very normal,

660
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: and I respected that.

661
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: I respect.

662
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: They was like, look, me and my husband, we would

663
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 4: love to blah blah blah, And I was like, thank you.

664
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't into it, but I was like,

665
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: thank you, you want to do it?

666
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: Or was one of them not attractive? That's actually you

667
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But it's okay.

668
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: We ain't got to talk about one of them, like

669
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: you fucked with one of their work, like you actually

670
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: liked them and were like they were running.

671
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: Now say the last day, like were you a fan

672
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: of one of their words?

673
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm very.

674
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 4: Close, yeah, very yeah. Pariods I'm heavy, yeah yeah, fuck

675
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: with them heavy. And I respected the vibe that she took. Now,

676
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: I've had other people that I've felt have wanted to

677
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: do that kind of thing, and they weren't really coming

678
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: right out with it, spit it out.

679
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: They understand, like, Kiki, we should go eat sometimes all together.

680
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: Because look, you know, we have a unique thing going on.

681
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: If you ever open, if you ever down, I'm sorry,

682
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: and just be respected. Love somebody to have consent. I

683
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: don't think there's anything wrong with people's unique relationships. I

684
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: think we got to stop yucking everybody's young. If somebody

685
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: is in an open marriage, if somebody has a swinging relationship,

686
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: if somebody has whatever, let them do that. You ain't

687
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: got to be a part of it. But like people

688
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: have things that work for them, and I think the

689
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: path the problem is while we get into some of

690
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: this cheating and this line and blah blah, it's because

691
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: people can't be themselves. Be yourself, find somebody that lets

692
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: you be yourself, even if yourself is Look, every five days,

693
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: I gotta go and be in the woods every I day,

694
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: I gotta go spend in the woods. But let them

695
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: go to the woods.

696
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: And if he could be honest you and as long

697
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: as he getting tested and everything is safe and everything

698
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: is clean, and everything is.

699
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: The thing in general across the board because people were

700
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: being full on close relationships. It's just them too and

701
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: can't even tell the truth.

702
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: And you can't tell the truth.

703
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: Do you need to get more talkative with the consent factor?

704
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: Just lay it on the line. Do you want to

705
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: get busy?

706
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: Weezy just sent something to my fault.

707
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Yes, Ralph was advocating about getting tested in prep and

708
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: all these things, and the people in the comments were

709
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: so ignorant because they was like, uh, the messaging used

710
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: to just be abstinate.

711
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: Now it's preventative now.

712
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: But also one of the times, why is her messenger

713
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: from a married woman?

714
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: They was mad about They were mad that a married

715
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 4: woman was saying to and to be thinking of who

716
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: Cheryl you Ralph and get everybody just mad.

717
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: Cherylie Ralph is my queen, she says, she don't even

718
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: live with her man.

719
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: Anybody is going to be the person to tell us

720
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: to take care of ourselves. The fact that it's that bombit.

721
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: You don't want to listen to Auntie No mo like

722
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: what you ain't listen to Auntie? Anty can't even tell

723
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 4: you wrapping up?

724
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: You know what's funny about that? You know what's funny

725
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: about that? But we didn't like. Can you remember the

726
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: thing that the older ladies of mind you when we

727
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: say older ladies that we go down, it's really us

728
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: now the thirties. For really, it's just the women in they.

729
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: Thirties thought they was so grima we did, but they

730
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: knew what they were talking about, and unfortunately they did it.

731
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: So I think these types of conversation needs to just

732
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: actually be had more across peers.

733
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: I agree across friends it weren't grown.

734
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: We're grown enough to set the example and to set

735
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: the standard of what it should look like in getting

736
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: into any sexual relationship. I agree it's appropriate, if that's

737
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: what we should be doing.

738
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: And I think the thing that I'm thinking about when

739
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: y'all are talking is Charlie Ralph was talking about HIV

740
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: specific specifically.

741
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: Okay, right, that's right, and that is the.

742
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: Scariest thing for everybody to hear about.

743
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: But what I would love to know is, like we're

744
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: talking about this right now as friends and podcasters. Did

745
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: your mom, because y'all are so close, ever talk to

746
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: you about sexual little safety? But when she did, did

747
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: HIV come up? Or was it pregnancy?

748
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: Like? How did that? You know?

749
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: My mom?

750
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: Her first thing was when I had my I got

751
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: my period very young. I was like, I was eleven

752
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: years old on the media's Family you set No. We

753
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 4: was in Atlanta, Georgia, and I was on Madia fam

754
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 4: renun y'all. I got a little period, yeah.

755
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: Right anyway, but never mind. So anyway, my mom was like, you.

756
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: Can get pregnant now, just so you know, that was

757
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: like the entry point. She was serious about that type

758
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: of stuff. And she started telling me about how, you know,

759
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: where she grew up and how a lot of the

760
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: young girls did. She did have friends that was twelve

761
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 4: years old and had kids, you know, that grew up

762
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: in women's shelters and stuff like that. And then she

763
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: started talking to me about rape culture, her friends going

764
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: places and somebody's wropping something they drink. So it was

765
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: mostly around you know, child bearing and possibly like being

766
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: taken advantage of what could result in that. It was

767
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: a lot of like some of that trauma that she

768
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: had heard secondhand from friendships. And then as I got older,

769
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: it started to be letting me know about HIV. She know,

770
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: it's interesting, we never had really any extreme conversations around

771
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: you know, the you know, the chlamydia or gonnery or

772
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: any of those things. I would hear about them on

773
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: television actually watching The Grassy when I'm a guy Gonerie, and.

774
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: I remember wat.

775
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: You did all up happened? You know, we hear about

776
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff what we hear about in the

777
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: in pop culture. But my mom did talk to me

778
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: about HIV and AIDS because that was like a big epidemic.

779
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 4: Obviously it always has.

780
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Been, but it was she remember when it happened because

781
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: probably had, like my mom talk to me about her

782
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: because she had lost a friend.

783
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

784
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: And see that's the thing that's changed now because HIV

785
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: was so terrible back then for people because it was

786
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: turning in the aids because there was no prep there

787
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: was no preventive right, there.

788
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: Were no I'm so thankful for all this now. I

789
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: really really am thankful for that.

790
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that we're talking about because you know,

791
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: we talk about sex on our show every week.

792
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: You probably have loved the DASH.

793
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: But like to talk about it more.

794
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: Here is just not happening. But HIV is growing amongst

795
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: black women. Yeah, anybody else in the country.

796
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 4: Shout outs to the Girlfriend's episode that just came on

797
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: last night that I was watching because I go to

798
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 4: sleep to that show when they were talking about that.

799
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: They did two great episodes about it. One of them

800
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 4: was with Kimberly Elie when she was their long term

801
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: friend who came back in town and they were envying

802
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: her life and she was Joan was mad because she

803
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: was like, you took my man, You took my man.

804
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: She said, yeah, you know what, and he gave me HIV.

805
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: But that was the other one, and you know, they

806
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: removed it. They removed that. To know, there was another

807
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: one the documentary that Lynn made, well, there was another

808
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: one where I think one of the men had HIV

809
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: on it.

810
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: I think it was one of their close friends and

811
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: they all were scared to be around.

812
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 4: Yes, that was the kimulity. There was a y'all, alias

813
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: cut her finger her hand with the knife and Joan

814
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: threw the knife away. Yes, because Joan was like, oh

815
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 4: my gosh, you know what, refuse it again, and Kim

816
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: was like, no, no, no, that's not how it is.

817
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 4: And so I love that we have those things, those

818
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: things that talking. And I just saw something online the

819
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: other day where a young woman was talking about her

820
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 4: storyline has She was just this was a longtime guy

821
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 4: that she had been messing with for years, and next thing,

822
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 4: you know, he gave it tour, you know what I'm saying.

823
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: So anyway, it's just important that we had these discussions.

824
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: That's why I really do feel like we get It's

825
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: like we live in this world, y'all, where it's like

826
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: one second it is flood out city girls, fuckuck, and

827
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 4: the next minute, don't ask me about don't ask me

828
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 4: about my health.

829
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: It's literally and we were talking, why is it either

830
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: porn or not not all? And that's the problem with

831
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: those comedis. That day, it was like what happened to

832
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: the conversation about absidence.

833
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't it's not real, but weird thing.

834
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: One person in him Ston wait against sue sexual one

835
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: person and the people are asexual. That means ninety nine

836
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: percent of the population wants to fuck sure.

837
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: And the problem with your.

838
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: Absence conversation is you discourage people to be honest, to

839
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: get tested and to disclose.

840
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: And then I'm looking at these comments.

841
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: Like it's a human thing.

842
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: But even outside of the comments, what I've been seeing

843
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: happening in Houston spring break and what has been can Okay,

844
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: what happened was Miami started putting kirfew. So in our day,

845
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: back in our day, we was going to Vegas, we

846
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: was going to Miami girl. Miami was heart eleven eleven period,

847
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: and I was more level. I'm talking about before then.

848
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about way back then when it was like

849
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: to l D Tutsi Okay, Hagan Diamonds, Monday.

850
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: She used to be a Walmart. That's why the polls

851
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: so high. I did. Anyways, right now, right now, the

852
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: the gen z are.

853
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: Partying it up in Houston, okay and crazy, and we

854
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: see it all on social media.

855
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: It's a lot of people. It's it's freaking nick two

856
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: point zero right now.

857
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: I just saw nurses posting about the spike in Houston specifics,

858
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: like they're talking and I love and I don't know

859
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: if it's I don't think it's violating hip, but but

860
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: I do like that nurses are like, listen, there's a

861
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: spike in STD's happening right now because everyone's coming into this.

862
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: By the way, those are the locals getting tested. What

863
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: about the people who came to town and went back

864
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: to the today little town. What's happening and sore When

865
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: we're in a place where we're preaching to date multiple

866
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: people and go out and.

867
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 2: Get your go out and get.

868
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: Your your nut, girl, good luck getting it because they

869
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: having a little problem finding out how to do it.

870
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: But if we're ab I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

871
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: But I'm with you on this. You have to be responsible.

872
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: You have to We have to be able to talk

873
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: to a person, whatever persons. We should be able to

874
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 4: just be open.

875
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: And you know, people that fuck multiple people generally have

876
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: the language. Like we've interviewed too many porn stars over time.

877
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 1: They know their status immediately. Right now, if I asked

878
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: my homegirl who's maybe dated one guy ten months ago,

879
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: maybe just on a few day naps.

880
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: Like they just get their path. They're not really asking,

881
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: and even a path.

882
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: You don't have to get yearly, so which that's crazy

883
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 4: with that path it she was like, you don't need it.

884
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 4: I was like, but I wanted you don't need it.

885
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: And I think that's another thing, just advocating for yourself

886
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: as black women, not even just as tds, but it's everything.

887
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 4: Can I have one as well?

888
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: How you gonna tell how you gonna tell me what

889
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: I need and what I don't need for my body?

890
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: You know what I mean that I'm that person. I

891
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 4: ain't even did nothing to be ready to take a test.

892
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 4: There's no reason why to do it. But whynot?

893
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: Now?

894
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you because we were talking

895
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: about comments on social media. We talked about how you

896
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: had a really good response to your new body as

897
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: a new mama, and those relationships, those Paris social relationships

898
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: were dope. However, we just saw a girl you was

899
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: at south By Southwest. Now, I do want to also

900
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: preface this by saying, when we you know, when you

901
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: do interviews, you got a team. This was one of

902
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: those things that we really wanted to check in with

903
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: and see if it was okay to discuss with you,

904
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: because that was for me was really scary to watch.

905
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: Not just can you explain to the people who may

906
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: not have seen it. Of course, of course, let me.

907
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Cook, she said, I've just had an.

908
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: When trying to tell you I love y'all.

909
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: When you know we are casual friends, we don't talk

910
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: all the time.

911
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: Seeing a clip of you look a little bit scared

912
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: when you have so much confidence and at Southwest Southwest,

913
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: somebody proposed to you, and I just I wanted to

914
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: talk about it because of how you handle yourself and

915
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: we talk about safety so much. But at the same time,

916
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: it was so violating that it's like, how can we

917
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: do this in a way that feels tasteful?

918
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: Because you are so fun so to bring Kiki down

919
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: from the fund may not be fun for you to watch.

920
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: But like, I want you to walk us through when

921
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: you were looking, you know when that ring came out,

922
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: like you you asked it was a prank. Like walk

923
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: us through a little bit of how you kept composure.

924
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 4: First of I just love you, guys, I love so much.

925
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: I love talking with y'all, hanging with y'all, like, how

926
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: y'all present everything and give me the opportunity to talk

927
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: to it. Yeah, so at first, so I will show

928
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 4: you a little bit because I want you to be

929
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: able to see what the vibe was. This is how

930
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 4: I knew that something was wrong because the ring was nice.

931
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: Stop it like, no crackajack. The ring looked expensively, and

932
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: it looked it looked it looked in expensive. That's when

933
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: I knew something's up. But like, so talk to each

934
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 4: other right now and then just look at me when.

935
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: You have to. Okay, so you know, we about to

936
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: kick you on here today. And she didn't say that

937
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: we're acting. You said wait with the ring.

938
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 4: With this type of eye contact, And so I was

939
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: like thinking to myself that that's what I was like,

940
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: is this a joke? Because it was so sincere, like

941
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: I could see in his eyes that we we've had

942
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 4: we've had romance, we had a lifetime in this man's

943
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: eyes where he was like seriously like like like it

944
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: gave like the day finally came and I'm like, how

945
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: could this be?

946
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: You know?

947
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: And so then I was like, okay, sir, you no, no,

948
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 4: I cannot bury you. You know, I cannot marry you, sir.

949
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: And then that's when I knew when he started looking

950
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 4: back to the people and he was like, she wants

951
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 4: to say yes. Help her say yes? And I was

952
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: just like, oh no, he said, help her say That's

953
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 4: what then I got said, guys, because I feel like,

954
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: I feel like when stuff like this happened, it's not

955
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: even about me. It's about like we're really in a

956
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: really bad time, like economically, like loneliness rates are at

957
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: an all time high, depression is up, you know, people suicide.

958
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: Like for him to what kind of I felt? So

959
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: I was nervous more for myself delayed after because I

960
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 4: was like, oh, it could have got dangerous. But in

961
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: the moment it went from this is a joke to

962
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: I've got to be careful with how I break the

963
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: reality of this guy because this is spragal. Because for

964
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 4: him to walk up, for him to go first of all,

965
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: he looked clean cut, he like a pretty together guy.

966
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: He got this, the ring looked expensive, he paid for

967
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 4: a ticket to be in south by Southwest, they're not check,

968
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: they're not and he got the gumps you to walk

969
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 4: up here and ask him and actually believed that I

970
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: could potentially say yes, this has nothing to play with.

971
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 4: And that's why I got very just started feeling sad

972
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: because I was thinking to myself, Man, this guy is

973
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: in a really bad way. Man, we might look back

974
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: at his storyline. He might have just got laid off.

975
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 4: He might have got laid off, started living at his

976
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: mama's house and watched me say you know it's your girl,

977
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: and he don't watch every episode of the Baby to

978
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: skip for me like she makes me happy?

979
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Is the connection that you build, like we all know you.

980
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: I feel like I know you. I feel like watching

981
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: my phone seeing Leo you give us so much. He

982
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: didn't make you want to stop. Man.

983
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: You know what, I've had different moments of extreme visibility

984
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: throughout my career. I remember when I did True Jackson

985
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: VP and the show first hit, you know, And I

986
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: remember going to my uncle has been on dialysis for

987
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: many years and this was like the beginning of it,

988
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: and it's a timer that you have to go back

989
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: and do all that type of stuff right and so

990
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: like a hundreds of people were surrounding me at the place,

991
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: and I felt when I was a kid and I

992
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 4: would experience extreme fame and visibility I would be stunted

993
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: and I wouldn't know how to speak to it, and

994
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: I wouldn't know what to do, and it would traumatize me,

995
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: and I would just kind of like I don't know

996
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: how to let them down. But then like we got

997
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 4: to go back and get my uncle on this dialysis machine,

998
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: and my parents are like, we need to go, but

999
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to know who to disappoint. How do

1000
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: I honor myself? How do I honor my family? How

1001
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: do I honor their reality of me? So now flashbacking

1002
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: forward to where I am now, it makes me want

1003
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: to talk about it. It makes me want to share

1004
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 4: and say that I do understand what I represent, and

1005
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: I do understand how people are responding to me, and

1006
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 4: I do care about those things. But I must be honest,

1007
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: and I must say I'm only home, only human, you

1008
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like I give what I can

1009
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: and I show joy and I share because that's who

1010
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: I am. But like I have limitations, you know. And

1011
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 4: I hope that we can all start having these conversations

1012
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: around what it means to be an entertainer, what it

1013
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: means to be a celebrity, what what it means to

1014
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: have impact and visibility because.

1015
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: All know what's scary though, anyone with an Instagram can

1016
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: be in a situation where someone has a peril social

1017
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: relationship with them, Like.

1018
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: If you were a woman in their city posting photos.

1019
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 4: Without a doubt, a man that saw your picture.

1020
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: And knows that you live in the same city could

1021
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: start seeing you. And so I also for the for

1022
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: the people listening, we have to remember it's not just

1023
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: the podcasters or celebrities or child stars, singers, you know,

1024
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: all all just all.

1025
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: Of them, it's all of us.

1026
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: Is when they're true to realize that people could have

1027
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: relationships with us in their mind as long as the

1028
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: we're placing our pictures online.

1029
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: And that's why I do think people like I get it.

1030
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: The celebrity for the celebrity is a thing. Fame for

1031
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 4: famous a thing, right. I'm not shading anybody's reality and

1032
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: how they want to make money. But this is why

1033
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 4: I never understood it, because you know, it's one thing

1034
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 4: to want, uh, you know, to want to be known

1035
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: for what you do in creating something, whatever it is.

1036
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 4: I can understand how you be willing to put yourself

1037
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: on the line for that. I understand why visically, you'd

1038
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, this is for my calls or this

1039
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: is for my blah blah blah. But like it's not

1040
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: nothing to play with for no reason at all, right,

1041
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: you know, just to be seen and not being actually

1042
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: known and put and want to be you know, that's

1043
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 4: a lot for anybody to handle. So I think people

1044
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: should also really think about that, Like you're inn saying,

1045
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: like social media, whether you're an influencer or not or

1046
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: just somebody in their posts and whatever, like these are

1047
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 4: things to to to to think about. You know, when

1048
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 4: I came into the game, I didn't know about famine popularity.

1049
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: It's something that ended up happening. But I've remained doing

1050
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: what I'm doing because I care about my craft. I

1051
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: care even more so as I've grown up in my generation.

1052
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: I care about being a reflection like my podcast. I

1053
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 4: care about like reflecting the conversations we're having online the

1054
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: same way that you guys we're just saying where it's

1055
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: like I'm interested in pop culture, I want to talk

1056
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 4: about these things and so so yeah, it's like it

1057
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: is what it is.

1058
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: It comes with it. I will say.

1059
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: Something that I really love that you've been doing more

1060
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: first off, you have an act to just get people

1061
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: to be completely comfortable with you. So we've seen how

1062
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: you've got ushered to open up about his experience with

1063
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: sex at.

1064
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: The early age.

1065
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: But one of the clips that recently had a lot

1066
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: of us talking as women, especially millennial women, is the

1067
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: fact that.

1068
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: We were dating older guys when we didn't really need to.

1069
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: And so I wanted to talk about what those conversations

1070
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: look like in terms of safety and dating and when y'all,

1071
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: when y'all had that, when y'all had that moment with

1072
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: you and DEMI about it kind of where it brought

1073
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: you back to and where you're like, oh, there's so

1074
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: many things that need to be unlearned, and I would

1075
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: love for you to talk to like the women listening

1076
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: in terms of dating, what things have you had to unlearn? Man?

1077
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 4: I had to learn a lot of stuff. You know

1078
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think grape culture is really big.

1079
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 4: And I'm not even just talking about that situation. I'm

1080
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: talking about other situations I've had. Okay, you know what

1081
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I think so starting with that, it's

1082
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: hard to know what is wrong when you don't when

1083
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: you weren't when you haven't visualize it that way. So

1084
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 4: the age discrepancy stuff, I think it took many years

1085
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 4: for me to understand what consent couldn't have been at

1086
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: that age for me, you know. And I remember watching

1087
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 4: this movie called The Tale with Oh my gosh, the

1088
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: movie is called The Tale. I cannot remember the actress's name.

1089
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 4: Common was in it, okay, and I wish I could,

1090
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 4: but I wrote about it in my book, And watching

1091
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 4: that movie was really impactful for me because it was

1092
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 4: this young girl who kind of was like in the

1093
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: story that we're watching, she's dating an older guy, but

1094
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 4: she looks a lot older, like she looks like, you know,

1095
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 4: more true and everything like that. But then when we

1096
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: actually go back to it, like what she really what

1097
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: her age really was, we see how young she really

1098
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: was in comparison to the guy. And I think that

1099
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: it's hard to realize those con those things, at least

1100
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 4: from my point of view, because a lot of people

1101
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 4: might feel differently. But for me, when I think about

1102
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: my age, well, if I think about even when I

1103
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: was at twenty five whatever, I wouldn't be interested in

1104
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: nobody that's sixteen or seventeen, right, I just wouldn't be.

1105
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: And so I think when you start looking at it

1106
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 4: from that point of view, then you kind of are like, well,

1107
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: maybe you know what I mean. And then you start

1108
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: fix amining stuff from a different finished point that you

1109
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: didn't have it.

1110
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the way I'm about to read The Coldest

1111
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: Whenever and look at it differently because Midnight we liked Midnight.

1112
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: It's a it's a little different.

1113
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: And Cold has changed. I think we talk enough about

1114
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: how culture has changed as well, because that's also why

1115
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: many of us, I think back in those days, we

1116
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: didn't think of it like that because and that's also like,

1117
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I haven't read tons of books on

1118
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 4: culture and conversations aade blah blah blah, but we're in it,

1119
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: we're living it. And that's what they say, is that

1120
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 4: like when you're looking back, everything is hindsight as always

1121
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 4: twenty twenty because you can see things from a different

1122
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 4: vantage point. And it was like culture at that time

1123
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: and what we thought was okay and what we thought

1124
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: was appropriate, especially with Demi and I and just child entertainers.

1125
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: A lot of older people friendships even not even just

1126
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 4: romantic friendships as well, because you're making money like a

1127
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: grown up and it's isolating to your peers. But you're

1128
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: still not grown though, Yeah, and people take advantage of

1129
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: that and you don't realize until later, like, man, that

1130
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: was kind of crazy. That shouldn't happen.

1131
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: But what can you do?

1132
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: You know, can't cry out and spilled milk. You just

1133
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 4: kind of move forward type of thing.

1134
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: We're just in a weird era of child stars, and

1135
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, and it's really the Internet because it's so

1136
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: accessible to learn about everybody now.

1137
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: Learning that Brittany, you know, reading her book, I was

1138
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: kind of like oof.

1139
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: You know.

1140
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: Even the other day I'm listening to Toxic and all

1141
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: these different stories and I'm like, damn, all the lyrics

1142
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: are about her being caged up, like seeing Amanda, you

1143
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1144
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: Like Amanda kills me. I don't know what even the

1145
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: storyline is there. No nobody has ever really spoken to her.

1146
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: We've never even got really an interview with the me.

1147
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 4: You might talk about a Manda Bynes, right, but I

1148
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 4: really do wonder, you know what I'm saying, how she doing?

1149
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 4: You know, because I loved her. She pops out in.

1150
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: La Everyone's in the blue and people get to see

1151
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: her and enjoy her company.

1152
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: But hell, maybe she's great, you know, I don't know,

1153
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 4: you know, maybe she's just like, I'm doing this for

1154
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 4: the gag.

1155
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Of it, you know what I mean?

1156
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: And she in the house like, look, let me talk

1157
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 4: about you never know?

1158
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: You never know, you never know. How soon do you

1159
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: start telling your friends about a dude you actually like?

1160
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't have nobody. Okay, you hate everybody.

1161
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 4: I love everybody, but they don't know me. Guy, Let

1162
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: me ask you all this because y'all know me writing.

1163
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 2: Real time podcast. Now, y'all kick, I want to ask.

1164
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: You. Do I do I come off like very professional

1165
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: or something? Do I not come off like people don't

1166
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: really like what gets away? I want to get now, Okay,

1167
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: don't play.

1168
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: You look like you would laugh while dick like you

1169
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: just look like nothing would be taken serious to the

1170
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: girl you look like it does there and be like, hey, look, guys.

1171
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: Like you look like you would make a joke with

1172
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: the dick. I don't know.

1173
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 4: Are no looks like.

1174
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: Here?

1175
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 5: It is?

1176
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: Hold up?

1177
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: She is no, she's not doing nothing. Fallical girl could

1178
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: just brand, but I wouldn't lie.

1179
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: I am.

1180
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 4: I do make jokes, and then you know.

1181
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: That like they have a good time, not long.

1182
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: You ain't all to it, say somebody like, I didn't

1183
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be try coolored.

1184
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 4: Look at the little top hat. He's got a whole sleep.

1185
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: And that's what they think you're gonna do in the bedroom?

1186
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: Ca cake cake?

1187
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: Okay, so that is he?

1188
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: That was.

1189
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: Real?

1190
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: That was hers?

1191
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: What's yours?

1192
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: Hmmm?

1193
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: Tell the truth? What do I come off as? For real?

1194
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 4: Because I feel like guys don't really know how to

1195
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: approach me, or they don't know why they would.

1196
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: I've seen you when you like somebody and but this

1197
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: is a long time call the con. I think a

1198
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: lot of people are almost believe thinking is unbelievable.

1199
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: So here's why.

1200
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: What could be unbelievable?

1201
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: One love here? You know you don't know how you're perceived. Okay,

1202
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: this is half of my guess. I think your age right,

1203
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 2: I'm thirty five years old.

1204
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: Even whatever age we are, we grew up with you,

1205
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: and I think and I was at a regular party

1206
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: with you.

1207
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to lead us in

1208
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 2: now you can, but I was at a regular party

1209
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: with you and you and when you.

1210
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: Was flirting, I think he was like this is fucking

1211
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: geeky flirting with me, and then because you got a

1212
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: little nervous, you started, yeah.

1213
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 2: What did you say?

1214
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 4: I go full on Sandra Buller mis congeniality.

1215
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: I am you know I am.

1216
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: I am silly and good and that is true. I

1217
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 4: want to go back to this unbelievable, this type of thing,

1218
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: like so what so what break said?

1219
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: He you love?

1220
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: Okay, she goes on that, But that's what I mean,

1221
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: because you really are on screen who we know. I

1222
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: don't think people it They're like, this is her, She's

1223
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: just authentic or whatever. It doesn't feel real because they're not.

1224
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: Believing this is You. Think about how.

1225
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: Many celebrities we've come across that are fucking weird and

1226
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: clammy and whatever. You still are fun, vibrant. I don't

1227
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: think very rich and you think that's the thing.

1228
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: They don't. No, you're too busy.

1229
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: The Richmond wants someone available at the drop of a diamond.

1230
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: Guess what, miss KTD not available?

1231
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: Come on, I do love a gig, but.

1232
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: You got a whole another little Uh.

1233
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: It's funny because I was gonna say they looking.

1234
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: For a ride or die and I saw you just

1235
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: by the way.

1236
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 4: Can we talk about how that's my dream come cat

1237
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 4: Marlen ways, and I was like, why every time I'm

1238
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 4: want the internet, it's a new it's something new with Kiki.

1239
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: And I saw that and I was like, oh my god,

1240
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: rom Com, Now this writer died.

1241
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: I'm thrilled because I know I get to kiss him.

1242
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: At least one you get to kiss. I know there's

1243
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: gonna be a sexy give up now I would be

1244
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 4: a joke, faith, that would be crazy. But wait, you

1245
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: did that one when he was kissing that girl.

1246
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Pim, that's not like.

1247
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 4: She's been here before.

1248
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 2: And then the only time once she's friendly with me.

1249
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: But seeing that, like so so you're so you're excited

1250
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: about that film. I did want to lean, Are you

1251
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: a writer dyeing in real life?

1252
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 4: Well?

1253
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: What do we consider? What is what? What's wrong? What

1254
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean?

1255
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm not dying for no, you know what I mean?

1256
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: Like if you go to jail, I'm not even writing you.

1257
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: You know the poor life decision, you know, But like,

1258
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: are you down for the long haul? If he loses job,

1259
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna hold him down. If he cheats, you're gonna

1260
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: forgive him because it was a mistake, Like.

1261
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 4: Can I forgive someone if they've cheated, I could, okay,

1262
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: if somebody for a man, if a good man lost

1263
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: your job, he got down on this, look, could I

1264
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 4: hold him down?

1265
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: I could? You know, what's the deal breaker for you?

1266
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: On the time linger? We need a time limit?

1267
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: A deal breaker. Time is usually a thing, like that's

1268
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 4: a time. Time is a big thing for me, like

1269
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 4: for me and my relationship. Also, like if I feel

1270
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 4: like we're not moving forward, Like if I got into

1271
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 4: a serious relationship and we be together for two years

1272
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 4: and I don't feel that we are growing together, I

1273
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: don't really just go by beyond that?

1274
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Would you open up the relationship with other people?

1275
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 4: Well that that, why would we be doing that? I'll

1276
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 4: be single? You know what I mean? You know how

1277
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 4: I feel.

1278
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: You know how you feel whole friendship because you know

1279
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: every time you ask me a question, do get funny?

1280
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 4: You be like, So that's what y'all got going down? Good?

1281
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 2: You know I'm kidding.

1282
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: So y'all join it on over there looking for company?

1283
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: Would you be a unicorn?

1284
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: Would I be a guest star?

1285
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm open, Come on, guest stars.

1286
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 4: You don't know I'm a herdo son with the sad

1287
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: with the cancer rising. It depends on what's happening in

1288
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: the star. It could go either way. You know, I

1289
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: never say never, never say never.

1290
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I know what do you

1291
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: want us to do?

1292
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: I hate this ship every time I leave you got

1293
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: this is the fun comes this. I know the girls

1294
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 4: are somewhere. We need to make sure that the girls

1295
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: are somewhere watching this with other girls. Hello, and I'm

1296
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: drinking and eating like I needed your cootery board at

1297
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 4: the table.

1298
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: You know, we need oh my gosh, guys, you guys

1299
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: go to me me and says in one of them days,

1300
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 3: we need a hot Cheetos martini and we needed jo

1301
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: watch this.

1302
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: You did you really drink that? Though I know it

1303
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: was in the movie, but did you really drink it?

1304
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: We did a hot Scheetos martini.

1305
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: You came up with that when they went in the script.

1306
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: You said, you know what if I can't sell on

1307
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: my feet, were gonna because every.

1308
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: Time we leave, keep you pregnant. Last movie? Had not

1309
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: know why you had a big jack unch.

1310
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,959
Speaker 1: Then she talked about my thief only fans my feet

1311
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: and then on the way home, does she want to

1312
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: leave her job as heellow.

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Speaker 2: Feet, you have confidence? You ever bought the feet? By

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Speaker 2: the way, you come in here with socks. It's crazy

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Speaker 2: my feet, we got lotion, you we got the feet?

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Speaker 2: What this was? Actually?

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Speaker 4: Goonies never say die, Yeah, Sean found out and even

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Speaker 4: Spielberd Goonies is one of the best movies that I've

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Speaker 4: ever hit the world.

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Speaker 2: Goonies never say down here.

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Speaker 4: It's our time up there, it's their time down here.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, this is why they think you a little fuck?

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Speaker 4: Can we just talk about why bunny girls aren't in

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Speaker 4: like yo fucking break? Have they never heard of Jenny McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: Have they never heard of Sandra Bullock?

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Speaker 2: Have they never heard of she had no dot kids you.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, do we know it's them

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Speaker 1: to be in relationship?

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Speaker 2: But Kiki, wait, you're hotter though, so that is I

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Speaker 2: think they just be like, I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: My man told me one day because I was joking

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Speaker 2: too much. On the third, I think you just want

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Speaker 2: to be my home.

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Speaker 1: There's only there's one funny woman zone. There's only one

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Speaker 1: funny woman. But I know all these men would drop

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Speaker 1: their draws for and it's surprising My ex my homegirl's

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Speaker 1: husband know that this is who they say, oh some More.

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Speaker 4: All the bad because you know what her jokes is.

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Speaker 4: What her jokes is all about sex, and they want

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Speaker 4: to know what it's about. You got the you got,

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Speaker 4: you got the wand I look like because wasn't she

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Speaker 4: in one of the Fridays? They was like, you look

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Speaker 4: like there Fridays some More she was.

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Speaker 2: I thought that that was jack jackiey, but.

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Speaker 4: She wanted to Fridays. She was dating the uncle.

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Speaker 2: I think so. At the short hand, she's always at

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Speaker 2: the short hair. But some More is a funny woman,

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Speaker 2: that man out his draw I love her. Do you

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Speaker 2: know it's crazy because the haircut ain't gonna bring you

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Speaker 2: the peanties. Who's gonna bring you to.

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Speaker 4: I have no problem with the ladies. That's true. Everything girls.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's said, it's like, hey, hey, hey, so

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Speaker 4: now move too fast? You just keep slipping trying to

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Speaker 4: give that ass keep being holla.

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Speaker 2: Why would I do that? Oh? Why this is all right?

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Speaker 4: On that note, I really love you guys, real bad.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sitting on us and having

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Speaker 2: this conversation. We need to have more like this. Next

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Speaker 2: time we will have the sharcucci uh down there.

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Speaker 1: But because of the need to watch this and eat

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Speaker 1: charcoal cheering and have these conversations each charcot and we

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Speaker 1: encourage you to talk about who you sleeping with, if

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Speaker 1: it's good, the positions y'all do, and how y'all are.

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Speaker 2: Safe all doing that?

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Speaker 4: That's very good, you know.

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Speaker 2: If you want some more, go ahead on over to Amazon,

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Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble wherever. Get no host bar. It's the

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Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller. Hold on, we also have her

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Speaker 2: books there.

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Speaker 4: We go.

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Speaker 2: Not at the airport, Okay, help y.

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Speaker 4: That airport is a prize position.

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Speaker 2: I've heard no it is. That's why we didn't put

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Speaker 2: it like you in there that set on it to

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Speaker 2: the deepok and stuff. Come on and make my way forward. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: we gotta, we gotta, we gotta skip young girl. He

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Speaker 2: was in the files. Anyways, let's go all y'all. Thank

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Speaker 2: y'all so much.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe to the Patreon and make sure

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Speaker 1: you check out Baby This to keep Homer when you

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Speaker 1: have it.

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Speaker 4: Un Oh my gosh, literally, I'm gonna have it the

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Speaker 4: next time that we shoot. So how about in are

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Speaker 4: you guys free around my day? Sometime Yep, done and

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Speaker 4: is bye.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all for tuning in to another episode of Decisions, Decisions,