1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland, and this is Fitness Disrupted. There's 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: a unique phenomenon that I have found in doing this podcast. 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: I've worked in many different mediums, video, lots of writing. 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: I've done the radio shows, but those were by and 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: large live. Podcast is different. And as I sit down 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: and prepare these notes for my shows, what I have 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: found more often than not is the topic goes in 9 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: so many different directions, directions I did not expect them 10 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: to go or it to go in, and concepts that 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: you know start by sounding simple, but they're not. And 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: they're all connected to all of these topics that I 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: talked about here so frequently. And that's why I talk 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: about systems theory and things like that when it comes 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: to exercise and motivation and nutrition and even just now. 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: When I start a podcast, I leave like fifteen twenty 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: seconds at the beginning so my producer can match the 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: background noise if and when he needs to, and ideas 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: come during that time as well. So it's it's constantly changing, 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: but it's there's a lot involved and and that's part 21 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: of what we need to look at. So this show 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: is about my one fitness industry and in quotation marks 23 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: for a reason, failure. And I often use those in 24 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: quotation marks for this reason. And let me start by saying, 25 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't believe in failure. I gotta say that right 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: off the bat, but I threw it in the title 27 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. It simplifies the topic and it's gonna 28 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: grab you. We need those type of titles. Hopefully it 29 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: did grab you. And if you're listening, you're obviously listening 30 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: for a reason. But as I do this show, it's 31 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, or we're coming up to 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. It's the end of the year, 33 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: coming up to the beginning of the year. And this 34 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: is New Year's resolutions. This is goal setting. This is 35 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: so much of the goal setting for fitness and health. 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: And I'm going to exercise more and I'm gonna eat better. 37 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: And I have written those articles for decades, and what 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: I have come to realize after doing this for decades 39 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: is that when it comes to the exercise part, a 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: little more straightforward, a little less gray and a little 41 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: more black and white. In other words, if you do 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: push us, if you if you get your heart rate elevate. 43 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how you do that, you're gonna change 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: your body. You're gonna change your body. And so there's 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: still obviously complexity to that as well, or it would 46 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: be much more simple. But where it gets complex is 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: that motivation side, is that goal setting side, is that 48 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: human behavior side, which is why I love studying that 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: and will until the day I die, because that's what matters. 50 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Push ups and push ups, the squats, the squad. You know, 51 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: workouts are generally, by and large is the same. But 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: it's the person right when you're doing that fitness content 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: now online, when you're watching and working along with your 54 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: favorite instructor, it's something about that instructor that grabs you. 55 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: And it's usually many things. It's the personality, it's the 56 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: music choices, it's the motivation and and some people are 57 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: super motivating for certain people and others are not. And 58 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: that's why it's complex and there's a lot going on. 59 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: But as I talk about goal setting, you've read those articles, 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: same old, same old, Right, your goal should be what 61 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: smart the acronym specific, measurable, achievable, relevant time bound. Of 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: course we know that, and yet so many people struggle 63 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: why is that. Well, part of it is you're a 64 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: not following that acronym, and then there are those who 65 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: follow that acronym but not well, you're not picking the 66 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: right specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, time bound types of goals 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: are really not fitting those categories, and so you should 68 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: do that. But what we've got to talk about all 69 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the other things, the nuances that come into achieving your goals, 70 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: and a huge part of that is looking at those 71 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: who have and I'm gonna use the term and I'm 72 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: gonna stop, you know, qualifying it, but who have failed. 73 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: And I'm one of those people. So I'm just gonna 74 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: be an experiment of one for you. And there's truly 75 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: one thing that stands out in my entire career, and 76 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna talk about, all right, so quick break. 77 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm gonna get into my one 78 00:04:54,839 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: fitness industry failure. We'll be right back m hm talking 79 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: about failure. And every single time that word comes out 80 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: of my mouth, it feels wrong because I don't believe 81 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: in it. I don't believe in the term. And it's 82 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: cliche to say that failure is the inability, the inaction, 83 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: the not trying, the inability to go for your goals. 84 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: That's failure that you didn't try. One of my favorite 85 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: shows I've done, and they're all up there, But is 86 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: the man or the woman in the arena. It's not 87 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: the critic that counts. So many people sit on the sidelines. 88 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: And my toughest races are generally my most favorite because 89 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: I learned the most about myself. The great ones, the 90 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: fastest ones, when I finally broke three hours for the marathon, 91 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: finally broke ten hours for the Iron Man, things like that. Yeah, 92 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: those were really fun. I worked really hard for those 93 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: and things came together. But like my blow up at 94 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: Iron Man South Africa, my really challenging run across the 95 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: Brand Canyon and back Holy Cow, not failures, lessons learned 96 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: and that is a huge part of today's show. And 97 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: it matters not what your goals are. The show applies 98 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: right And let me just begin also by saying, there's 99 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: so many experts. It's tortuous. I know I talked about 100 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: it frequently, but for good reason. That's what the show 101 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: is about. It's bringing you the right information, the science, 102 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: breaking it down, and not just the science, but someone 103 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: who has not only succeeded but failed, and it's not 104 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: talked about enough. And when it is talked about, especially 105 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: on social media, I love this. The term is even 106 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: the term is kind of gross to me, if that's 107 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: the right word. But humble brag, humble brag so so often, 108 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: especially in fitness, when you see these posts about failure, 109 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: it's it's a humble brag. What's a humble brag? I 110 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: love this definition to and ostensibly modest or self deprecating 111 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: statement will throw picture in there or post whose actual 112 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: purpose is to draw attention to something of which one 113 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: is proud. Hey look what I Look what I did 114 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: or tried to do. I didn't quite get there, but 115 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: look look at how great I am. Right, you don't 116 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: really learn from that. And so I've done so many 117 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: shows about how I found the people who had achieved 118 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: what I wanted to achieve, whether that was in the 119 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: sports world, in the business world, with coaching. I had 120 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Troy Jacobson on Matt Fitzgerald on the writer. Not only 121 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: did I, you know, follow what Matt Fitzgerald did in 122 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: the right world, I found who out who his agent was, 123 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: and when I needed to switch agents, I pursued her 124 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: to death, and it took years. And that's a big 125 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: part of today's show too. It doesn't happen right away. Okay, 126 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: but you know, just be careful of the experts you follow, 127 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: because that is a huge part of what I believe 128 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: in is finding people that you want to, uh, do 129 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: what they did to get what they have. But far 130 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: too often there are people who are saying, do what 131 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: I did to get what I had, but they didn't 132 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: do anything. They're either born with great genetics or they're 133 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: a success coach who has only found success in selling success. 134 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: That's that's not quite how it works, all right. So 135 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: let me give you the couple of definitions of failure too, 136 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: because I think it's important. One is non performance of something. 137 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: Do required or expected? Do required or expected? And I 138 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: think what we're talking about here is more the expected part, 139 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: not really do it. It's not required when you're sending 140 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: these goals, but do you expect it? And to work 141 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: hard towards something? And I want that if I put 142 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: the work in, then this is going to happen. Another 143 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: definition is the omission of expected or required action doesn't 144 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: really apply to us. And then the final one lack 145 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: of success. And I think that's what this show and 146 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: what we're talking about here really comes down to, is 147 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: what is your definition of success? That's so important, And 148 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: as I was preparing the show that I didn't expect 149 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: to go in that direction, but it makes complete sense. 150 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: What's your definition of success? For me? It has never 151 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: been about money. And I have a lot of really 152 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: successful friends, a lot of really successful failure members. But 153 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: the success that I'm talking that's financial never my goal. Now, Listen, 154 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: money is good. I want the ability to do the 155 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: things I need to do, and I've been successful, depending 156 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: on what your level is of that, of course, but 157 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: the be all, end all has never been the money. 158 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: And I've turned down men the opportunities that will play 159 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: into what I'm talking about here as well. That didn't 160 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: align with my brand, So it was short term gain 161 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: but would have made my brand suffer long term in 162 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: my opinion, because I wanted that brand and continue to 163 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: want to have that brand be trust, trust and authenticity 164 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: and science. Okay, so you have to figure out what 165 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: your successes and if if your definition of success is money, awesome, awesome, 166 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: that's your goal. But it wasn't for me. And when 167 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: you actually look at We've talked about this and this 168 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: plays into yes, my one of my favorite topics sports 169 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: psychology and motivation, specifically intrinsic motivation. Depending on what books 170 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: you read and who you follow, there are different elements 171 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: of this intrinsic motivation and kind of breaking it down, 172 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: but one is three different components, right, autonomy, mastery, and purpose. 173 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: What's autonomy, Well, that's controlling what you do, when you 174 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: do it and who you do it with, and that 175 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: people is one of my biggest, most proud components of 176 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: my success is that I have the ability to control 177 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: what I do, when I do it, and who I 178 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: do it with in this industry. And that goes for 179 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: the people I bring on this show and pitch so 180 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: many people that would help make this show, you know, 181 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: be heard by more people. And I am very fortunate 182 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: in that I am asked certain things and when they 183 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: don't align, they don't happen, all right. Mastery is the 184 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: desire to improve, to get better, huge desire for that, 185 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: and I learned that through sports, and I learned that 186 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: through music that I'm going to talk about, even through 187 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: stand up comedy that I'm gonna talk about. And then fine, purpose, 188 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: little grayer here, but the bigger picture that you're working 189 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: towards something more important, something larger, And for me that's 190 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: really simple. I truly want to help people, want to 191 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: help you improve your life. What could be better than that? 192 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: And we say, I'm not selling shoes. And for those 193 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: of you sell shoes, that's awesome. It was just shopping 194 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: today for my wife with shoes. We need that and 195 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: we all are passionate about different things. But for me, 196 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: it's controlling what I do, when I do it, and 197 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: who I do it with, when I can constantly get 198 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: better at it. That's why fifty two I'm still studying 199 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: in school. Finished another class and we'll continue. My next 200 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: one starts soon. So constantly constantly trying to improve. You 201 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: can never stop learning, can never stop getting better at 202 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, swimming, biking and running and whatever else you 203 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: know sports you're doing, and that purpose that makes it 204 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: all worth aisle. Right, And let me say this success 205 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: is not a straight line, and that plays into my failure. 206 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: I've had so many nose along the way. I have 207 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: file cabinets filled with them, the rejections for my first books, 208 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: and no to me means not with me, not now, 209 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: or not in that way, but not no, because let 210 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: me get right to it. What this show is about 211 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: is knowing when to change course. That's not the straight line, 212 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: and it's knowing when to fold them, knowing when to 213 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: hold them, knowing when to fold them. Did a show 214 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: on that a little different, but the concept is similar. 215 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: And so when I get to the specifics very shortly 216 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: about what this failure was, it wasn't aligned with my 217 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: success goals. It wasn't what I was passionate about. It 218 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: made sense at the time, but I knew when to 219 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: what cut bait. That's really hard for many people. That's 220 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: one of the hardest things to do. You want to 221 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: use the term secrets, but that doesn't really fit here 222 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: because you set a goal. Is that quitting? Is that 223 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: giving up? No? Not in this case, not at all. All. Right, 224 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: let's take one final break here, and when we come 225 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: back and get right to the specifics, what was it 226 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: in my career, we'll be right back. So when I 227 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: decided many many years ago that this was gonna be 228 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: my career, had tried many different things. I said, I 229 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: need multiple revenue streams. I need so many different ways 230 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: to make money, because that's how I'm going to make 231 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: a career out of it. And I started as a 232 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: personal trainer and group fitness instructor. But I mean back 233 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: personal trainer. That was the first right was training people, 234 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: first job, autos facility in college. Incredible that now i'm 235 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: their fitness advisor. Talk about coming full circle isn't even 236 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the right term, but pretty amazing. But personal trainer. Then 237 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: I said I need more. I need more money than that. Right, 238 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: you can only make as much during that hour, and 239 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: that's pretty much the same with group fitness. But what 240 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: I figured out very early on is classes don't quit 241 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: on you. In other words, brutal business personal training. And 242 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: those of you who are personal trainers know exactly what 243 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. We only got paid if you train someone. 244 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: And how often do people cancel? Now you ask you 245 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: have twenty four hour cancelation policy. That is really sticky. 246 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: When you have a relationship with someone and they call 247 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: up three hours before and say, my daughter sick, Tom, 248 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: I gotta cancel you. Okay, still gotta charge you. That's 249 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: a problem. So that led to group fitness because classes 250 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: don't cancel the way people do. And then I expanded 251 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: that out. So let me just give you a laundry 252 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: list of the different revenue streams I had, because it 253 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: plays into this whole topic. Okay, so personal training, group fitness. 254 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Then I started my camp. So I'm like, okay, if 255 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: training one person in an hour is good, maybe multiple 256 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: people is better. And that was group fitness, but you're 257 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: getting paid by the gym. And now I said, I'm 258 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna go out on my own, and I started a 259 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: running club in New York City, Team Holland Running Club. 260 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: Very catchy, complex name, right, And then I did my 261 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: Naantucket camp and one day I should do a show 262 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: you know on that more specifically because that went to 263 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: making thousands of dollars an hour, took a long time, 264 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: lots of sacrifice, but to show you where you can 265 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: take some of again something of those people who are 266 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: in the business, so camps. Then I went online coaching. 267 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: The internet was invented essentially a couple of years into 268 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: my personal training career, and so I started coaching people online. 269 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, amazing. Now I can coach people all 270 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: over the world triathlon, marathon's, running, other events, weight loss, 271 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: all of those things. Then I got into consulting with 272 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: the media for fitness shoots, different things like that. Then 273 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: I started doing lectures, started with my my biggest ones 274 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: to start with was Gatorade Amazing, and then did many 275 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: for them, some were free, and that's a big part 276 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: of my career is so much was quote unquote again 277 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: to abuse that phrase, but it's true for free, but 278 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: it's building the brand. Okay lectured many times for the 279 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: American Medical Athletic Association, one of the few nondoctors part 280 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: of that group. There was incredible value in that building 281 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: the brand and the connections I made while they're so 282 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: many different things, and that is one of the biggest 283 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: problems with fitness people in general, that they're always looking 284 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: to make the money rather than build the brand, and 285 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: a lot of it is free. Then I started creating 286 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: fitness content for magazines, for charities I coached to charity 287 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: for years, for websites or then fitness apps, creating content 288 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: and that's the expertise. And then I started doing the 289 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: fitness videos my own, and then got hired to do 290 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: so many including Supreme, Ninity Day and Herbal Life products sponsorships, 291 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, PowerBar, Core Water FRS products that I believed 292 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: in and used, and there was media incentives. Basically many 293 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: different ways to make money with them, including being in 294 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: the media, wearing their stuff. Writing got into that there 295 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: was a huge part of what I love to do, 296 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: passionate about. So started writing articles. And by the way, 297 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: pre Internet, I would write one spec article a week, 298 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: one article that I just was passionate about, and I 299 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: would send it out to all the magazines by mail 300 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: and get all those rejection letters. But eventually and inevitably, 301 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: every single one over time. Some took a month, some 302 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: took a year, but every single one of them was 303 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: eventually published. Then I started doing the books and fast 304 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: forward to today, many different things again, fitness advisor for Nautilus, 305 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: lots of legal fitness expert work doing that today as 306 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: well today literally today, and so many different things. But 307 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: what was that failure? So I had a client who 308 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: was in the apparel industry, sports apparel, but this was 309 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: pre Rown, this was pre Lulu Lemon. There was nothing 310 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: really for guys. Under Armour had just started to come out, 311 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: was just gaining and popular larity. But I thought, there 312 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: needs to be something else. There weren't enough options plenty 313 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: for the women, but nothing really for the men. Nothing 314 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: a little higher end and specifically I saw because I 315 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: was teaching spinning and taking the yoga classes and teaching 316 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of different classes as well. There 317 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: wasn't really the shorts with the line are built in. 318 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too specific into it. Let's 319 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: suffice it to say that was it. I said, you 320 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: know what, I have an idea. It's like shark Tank. 321 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: I need to fulfill a much needed thing. Anyone see guys, 322 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: do you know certain yoga moves upside down with the 323 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: wrong shorts on. Yeah, not a good look. That was 324 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: a huge part of the visual that I would see. 325 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: So I was like, we should do this. I should 326 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: do this. And I told this client and he said, awesome, 327 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: let's do it. And then he took it a step 328 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: further and said, you know what, let's do shirts, let's 329 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: do let's do jackets, let's do different shorts. And so 330 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: we did a fitness line, a clothing line. And what 331 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: I realized was this was the only thing that I 332 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: couldn't do part time. I was going to the trade 333 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: shows and I was standing you know, for hours on end. 334 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: On the weekends, you got to visit the stores. There 335 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: was so much work and I'm fine with the work, 336 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: but it didn't allow me to do all the other 337 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: things that I needed to do. You couldn't do it 338 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: part time. You needed to be one involved. It is 339 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: a brutal business. My wife and I were shopping today Christmas, 340 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: shopping for her, and the inventory couldn't get what we 341 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: wanted to in the stores. And and anyone who is 342 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: in that industry knows exactly what I'm talking about. Brutal. 343 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: And so there came a point. By the way, I 344 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: invested a lot, not just time, which took me away 345 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: from all many of those other things, but money. I 346 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: put money in, partner put money in. But I was 347 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: doing like the catalog and the photo shoot and the 348 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: time and the effort, but money as well. And there 349 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: came a point, and this is where we pull it 350 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: all together. There came a point where I said, it's 351 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: time to end this. This isn't what I want to do. 352 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: It's not what I'm passionate about. And if I don't 353 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: do it a hundred percent, I'm not gonna be successful. 354 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: It's hard enough to be successful at this business when 355 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: you do it a hundred percent of the time. And 356 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: so that was it closed up. So the question too 357 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: many people is that a failure to meet not a chance? 358 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: Not a chance? The lessons I learned the effort. I 359 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: take pride in the fact that I had an idea 360 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: and I followed through with it. I still have a 361 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: movie script that has yet to see the light of day. 362 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: Wrote it so many years ago. Is one of the 363 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: hardest things I've ever done. It will see the light 364 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: of day, and it's been tucked away for years and 365 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: years and years. When I finished it, I was so 366 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: proud that I had an idea and I got it out. 367 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: And that is how I've approached my career, my entire life, 368 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: from the books and all the different projects that I 369 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: have an idea for, including the clothing line. We need 370 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: to have these shorts. Now I look and go, oh 371 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, Ron and Lulu for men and Virya, all 372 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: these different clothing lines. But even if you go, well, 373 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: you could have made millions whatever, if you've done it right, 374 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: I would not be happy. That's not what I want 375 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: to do. If I can't do all the things I'm 376 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: doing now, like the podcast and writing the books and 377 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: working with different people in different ways. And one great 378 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: concept in psychology plays into this is excessive optimism, which 379 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: when you first start thinking about this, you go, how 380 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: can you be excessively optimistic? How would that be a negative? 381 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: What are several ways one would be inadequate preparation? Right? 382 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: And I'm just going to use their race analogy, the 383 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: event analogy, because it's easy for me. So you, oh, 384 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't have to really prepare for this race, or 385 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: let's throw in a speech. I got, I got a speech. 386 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: You know that I have to give front of a 387 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: large group. I got this And you don't prepare correctly, 388 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: and what happens problems and that plays into another negative 389 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: aspect of excessive optimists. You don't prepare enough because you 390 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: underestimate the challenge. I don't have to prepare for this race. 391 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: Now I could do a whole show on this. It 392 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: probably will at some point, but it can be a negative. 393 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: And finally, most importantly with this topic, you don't know 394 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: when to stop a task, call it what you want, 395 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: give up given cut bait, And that's really hard when 396 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: you set a goal for yourself. But my goal was 397 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: not to be the CEO of an apparel line. My 398 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: goal is to have a career in the fitness industry. 399 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: Where I help people and where I have a to 400 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: me mastery and purpose. And so as I used to 401 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: say to my Wall Street clients who would say, you know, 402 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: you wish you were doing what I'm doing, making the 403 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: money I'm making, I don't, no, no, trust me. You 404 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: know it was never and is not about just the money. 405 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: And there are people who love that. I have friends 406 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: and family who love that career, not for me, And 407 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: so you've got to be passionate about it because if 408 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: you don't, you don't have that passion, you're not gonna 409 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: be intrinsically motivated and have that purpose, whatever your purpose is. 410 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: And let me just totally wrap it up with you know, 411 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: I talk about how I had the background as well 412 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: in stand up comedy, in acting and drumming the music 413 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: I have people to this day you haven't seen it 414 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: a long time because I was doing shows with guys 415 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: like Jim Gaffigan back in the day. Jim Norton credible 416 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: experience is nuts. And I got to a point, remember 417 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: the day with Jim Gaffigan backstage in the city little 418 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: club Grove Street, fifty five Grove Street, and we're both 419 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: going to do something the next day with agents and 420 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: I said, I'm done, because what are you talking about? 421 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: And he said, you're gonna, you know, you're gonna, You're 422 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna be successful in this, and I go, no, not, 423 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: it's not for me. I'm going to the gym at 424 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: like two am, three am after these shows. I love it. 425 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: And it was a musically based stand up comedy act 426 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: and I love performing. But that was it. Same thing 427 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: with acting. Did that for a bunch of years. Took 428 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: many classes improv acting Harvard summer classes, Emerson, Boston College 429 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: of City, and drumming, huge into music. All of those 430 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: skills I used today in fitness, all of them, whether 431 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: it's doing the videos, whether it's doing the podcast, whether 432 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: it's being on TV. All of that training makes sense now. 433 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: So again, when I see those friends who were like, 434 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: don't know me, I haven't seen me since the and 435 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: comedy days ago, are you sad because you failed a 436 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: stand up I didn't fail. Amazing experiences and it taught 437 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: me so many things and it's what makes my product 438 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: today unique. Okay, And so they're in lies. One of 439 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: the hardest things to do, or is it to cup eight, 440 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: to quit, to let it go? But I think when 441 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: we set those goals for ourselves, and when we truly 442 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: examine those goals, and you say, is this playing into 443 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: what I need? What I want? My success? And so 444 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: put a lot of money into that clothing line, put 445 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot of time, But I would 446 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: argue not too much. And there is no perfect amount 447 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: of time to put in a goal like that. But 448 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: there's a time to stop and you'll know it, hopefully 449 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: when it is right for you. And it's not a failure, 450 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: no us. I still have a box by the way 451 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: of that clothing I didn't know I did, and I'm 452 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: proud of it. Box cost me a couple of dollars, 453 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: but it played into that as crazy as it sounds, 454 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: the self efficacy, the confidence, and the pride in having 455 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: an idea and following through that to me is living. 456 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: And so few people take those risks because they are 457 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: petrified of failure, when the failure is the inability to try. 458 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Tom h Fit is Instagram, tom h Fit is Twitter. 459 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: If you want to reach out, that is how to 460 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: do it. You can also go to fitness disrupted dot 461 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: com email me through the site. I've been hearing from 462 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: so many of you recently. I love it. Questions and 463 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: just you know, comments from things you have taken from 464 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: the show. So please do not hesitate to reach out. 465 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: Please follow the show if you can, rate it, comment 466 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: on it, and know that this is all to help 467 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: you live your best life, and to help me live 468 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: my best life and help my family live their best lives. 469 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: And I love what I do and I'm passionate about it, 470 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: and I will be doing it the other day I die, 471 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: and that would be like a hundred and twenty three. 472 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: Al Right, Remember there are three things we all control, 473 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: how much we move, what we put into our mouths, 474 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: and our attitudes, and that is awesome. I am Tom 475 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: holland this is Fitness Disrupted. Believe in Yourself. Fitness Disrupted 476 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: is a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts 477 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: from my heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, 478 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.