1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase Utley and this is the Philly Show. Hi, everybody, 2 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury. 3 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: I'm Todd's lucky. It is Monday, June seventeenth, twenty twenty four. 4 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Father's Day was yesterday. Guys, were you properly feted by 5 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: your loving family? And uh, you know, peeled grapes? What happened? 6 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: What do you what? 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: You know? What? How are you guys treated yesterday on 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Father's Day? You guys do anything cool? 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: What do you got? 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: Jim? 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: I had a nice day with my wife and three 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: daughters and dogs and took a took about a five 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: mile walk, worked in the garden, and then I manned 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 3: the grill. We had a nice night, nice afternoon. 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: All right, that's a pretty pretty chill. 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: I got a call for my kids as they going 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 4: to be in Puerto Rico because they were at a 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: bachelorette party for one of their one of their close 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: close friends slash cousins. And my eldest Andrea is is 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: the bridesmaid so and they're both in the wedding, so 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 4: they had to be down there. But I got a 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: good call from them. In early in the morning, and 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: they were expressing their regret that they were not there, 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 4: but they were with us in spirit. 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: And then I went off to my mom's. 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: Judy had a nice little Judy and Will had a 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: nice little little barbecue in the backyard. Beautiful night, and 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: we had ourselves some chu lettas, some pork chops, some steak, 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: rice and beans, the whole nine yards. 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: And Will's sons were there as well. It was a 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: very nice my brother. 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: So so we had five dads there chilling and enjoying, 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: enjoying the the backyard at Judy's place. 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: It was. Uh. 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: I just stayed at home, had a real low key day. 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: My wife for a Father's Day gift, got me this 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: cocktail smoker that you put over like the glass, the 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: low ball glass. And so during the Phillies game on Sunday, 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: I smoked two old fashions and then I I wasn't 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: smoked afterwards, but uh, you know, it helped the rest 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: of the night. 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: And then you watch Wheeler and then you watch Wheeler 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: get smoked. 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, the Phillies got smoked. After that, Oh 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: my gosh, but it's funny. So on Saturday, I had 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: that book signing at Shipe Sports out in Westchester, Wheelhouse 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Cards in Westchester and met a lot of great people, 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: went really well, and a lot of people very complimentary 50 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: of the pod, and it was funny two or three times. 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: You guys must know this. As people walked away, I 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: got a smellulator no way, Yeah, and I got and 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: I got and I got one. I got one. I 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: wish I can remember the guy's name. 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: He was so nice. 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: He goes say hi to this smellulator boy for me? 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: Who knew that your sophomore humor would catch on and 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: resonate so much with the we have podcast? 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: We have Ruben and I have been engaging in sophomore 60 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: humor for thirty years. 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, for a long long time, and that. 62 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: One of our last shows will start getting into all 63 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: the real stuff, some stuff you can say once. 64 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: You guys are saying exactly exactly. But you know now 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: your sophomore humor is spreading to the masses. So you 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: guys should be very proud of yourselves. 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: How did you get sell a lot of books? 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, sold a lot of books. Yeah, it was it 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 71 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: I brought my son out and so he came home 72 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: with some POKEMONK cards, which is a big deal. You 73 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: got a couple of packs of baseball cards and he 74 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: was excited. So, yeah, it was. It was a lot 75 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: of fun. 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: This book right here, man, is really good. It was 77 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: really really good. 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: Man. 79 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: You should get plenty of love for this for a 80 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: great picture but also a great. 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much, thank you very much. Yeah, 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: the Phillies did not have a great weekend in Baltimore. 83 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Been a rough stretch for him. Last twenty games, they're 84 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: ten and ten. So yeah, since they swept the Rangers 85 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: World Series defending champions, they were thirty seven and fourteen. 86 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: They're ten and ten since. But oddly enough they've actually 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: gained some gain some games on the braves and the standings. 88 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: They've only lost a half game to the Dodgers for 89 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: the best record in the National League. Ten of their 90 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: next thirteen are at home. Guys, home cooking coming at 91 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: the right time. 92 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: No question. They're twenty seven and ten at home, played 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: really well at home. You know, I kind of look 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: at this stretch as I look at this team in 95 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: this little snapshot we're in right now, I see a 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: team that needs a day off. They could really use 97 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: today off, but they had to use three of them 98 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: in the last handful of days for London, So you know, 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: they come off a tough stretch, tough trip, and they're 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: right back at it. Just I feel like they could 101 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: use that recharge day, but they're going to have to 102 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: you know, you know, draw their recharged energy from you know, 103 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: being at home and how well they play at home, 104 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: and the addition to Trey Turner who's expected to come 105 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: off the IL. I'm not overly concerned about this stretch. 106 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: But you know, their calling card all year has been 107 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: great starting pitching, and they haven't gotten that, you know, 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 3: consistently outstanding starting pitching recently a little blip hair. I 109 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: think they can get it back. They also have not 110 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: you know, in Baltimore, and we see this with this 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: offense for years. They occasionally have these periods where they 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: just don't hit with runners in scoring position and those 113 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: opportunities they don't cash in on. And I think there 114 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: were two for nineteen in the last two games, both 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: losses in Baltimore. You've got to do more than that 116 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: if you want to win the game. But hats off 117 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: to the Orioles, very good team. I think the Orioles 118 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: took it as a challenge to to show how good 119 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: they are against this Phillies team, because this Phillies team 120 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 3: was off to this really great start. And I also 121 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: think maybe they took it a little personal that the 122 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: Phillies fans dominated their ballpark, which, hey, if the seats 123 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: are available, you know, if the Orioles were drawing better, 124 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: those seats wouldn't be available. But almost like they're a 125 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: little bit of an underdog in their own ballpark and 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: they showed them. 127 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, pretty impressed by by the Orioles. And you know, 128 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 4: Boston played them tough as well. I mean they swung 129 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: the bat pretty well. But yeah, you're right, Jim there. 130 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: The pitching has been a little inconsistent. Starting pitching been 131 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: a little inconsistent, and obviously their offense has not really 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 4: gone crazy over the last you know, ten days or so. 133 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: I you know, I don't get too concerned about the 134 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: pitching thing. You know, Aaron Nola. 135 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: Had like what eight days off or whatever, and then 136 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 4: you know, they just haven't gotten and I think Weeler's 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: start was probably, you know, one of the worst starts 138 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: he's ever had in his career. I think he can 139 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: flush that one and put that away, much like Aaron 140 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: Nola's going to do. 141 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: One of the things I did. 142 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: Notice about Wheeler's outing was he's missing his spots quite 143 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: a bit. 144 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: You know. 145 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: One of the things, one of the things that he 146 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: has done extraordinarily well even with the stuff that he has, 147 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: is that he's really hit his spots well. And like 148 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: you know, he and Stubbs were, you know, where Stubbs 149 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: was asking for a fastball. 150 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: Away or a cutter in. 151 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: He really was not getting his pitches to his spots. 152 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: And Baltimore is a really good ball club. I got 153 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: a chance to, you know, see them talk with Freddie 154 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: Gonzalez a little bit and Brandon Hyde about their ball 155 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: club during spring training, and you know, they're really excited about. 156 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: Their club that I think that they did a great. 157 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: Job finally of getting that top of the rotation pitcher 158 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: in Corbyn Burns. I think that was the best trade 159 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: of the offseason, without question in my mind, because it 160 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: was you know, pinpointed a real need for them, and 161 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: now they've you know, they've got a legitimate World Series 162 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: contending team with some young players who can really play, 163 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: anchored by Adlie Rutchman and Gunner Henderson who are right 164 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: in the middle of things, very. 165 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: Very good young players. 166 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: Rutchman who is, uh, you know, best young catcher in 167 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: the game, I think from both sides of the both 168 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: sides of the ball. And then Gunner Henderson, who's one 169 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: of the best young shortstops in the in the game, 170 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: is good you know, probably start the start, you know, 171 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: so you start thinking about how good they are up 172 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 4: at the middle of the field, and uh, man, it's 173 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: a good ball club, And I think you're right. I 174 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: think they view that as a challenge to see what 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: they can do against the Phillies, and they beat them 176 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 4: up pretty good and pretty impressive team. 177 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: So I know, I don't have to hang their heads. 178 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: But the Phillies don't have to hang their heads because 179 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: they got beat by a pretty good club. But they 180 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: do have to regroup and get a breather and and 181 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: start playing the game the way that they have for 182 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: you know, most of the most of the season. 183 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the pitching either. I think that'll 184 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: bounce back. Like you said, Nola, that huge long layoff 185 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: that was that was rough for him and Wheeler. He 186 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: has those every once in a while and then next 187 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: time he's gonna go out and he can go eight seven, 188 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: eight innings, one run, ten, ten strikeouts. But it was 189 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: a frustrating weekend though, And you could tell it was 190 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: a frustrating weekend when you saw mild mad manager Rob 191 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: Thompson as mad as I've ever seen him. Have you 192 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: ever seen him that mad? 193 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: Never? 194 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean I've asked him some dumb questions over the 195 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: years and he has handled you know, I haven't even 196 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: seen him. I haven't even seen raise an eyebrow at me. 197 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: But obviously that's a lot different. But I've never seen 198 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: him on the field lose it like he lost it 199 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: on Sunday. And afterwards, players in the clubhouse said they 200 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: really appreciated seeing Rob Thompson have their back and show 201 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: up for them and argue on their behalf and that 202 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: stuff can be meaningful, right, I mean, I always remember 203 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Charlie Charlie Manuel saying this, you got to pick your spots, 204 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: and I know, I get I know you guys probably 205 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: hear this a lot too. Fans wondering why Rob Thompson 206 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: doesn't show more emotion, or why he doesn't get thrown 207 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: out more, or why he doesn't bench a guy if 208 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: he does this or does that, why he doesn't have 209 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: more team meetings. Not that they've needed a lot over 210 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: the past couple of years, but I think if you have, 211 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: if you're screaming and yelling a lot, if you're having 212 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: a lot of team meetings, if you're getting ejected a lot, 213 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: it kind of loses its significance. So when Dad goes 214 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: out there and raises his voice not that often, it's 215 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: more impactful, is it not? 216 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: No question? If you do it all the time, you 217 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: lose your cred. It's like when Pat Gillick used to 218 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: walk through the clubhouse. Pat didn't hang around the clubhouse 219 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: of Tom, did he Rubin. I don't remember him around 220 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: the clubhouse a lot. 221 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: No, that was thing. It was way more stealth than that. 222 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that was maybe he was in there, but 223 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: you know, earlier in the day. But when Pat kind 224 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: of walked through the clubhouse, I always felt like everybody 225 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 3: perked up a little bit because it was kind of unusual. 226 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, you got to pick your spots. And uh, 227 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: I think, you know, there was some frustration on Friday night. 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 3: But if he if he could, you know, it goes 229 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: out and loses it there, it's gonna look like, well, 230 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: you know, they they lost one game and he's going nuts. 231 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 3: But he had good reason to do it yesterday. I 232 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: mean that that missed call early in the game cost 233 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: him a home run by Gunnar Henderson, cost you know, 234 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: Wheeler and out there, and then there was a pitch 235 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: off the plate and then there was the stubs thing. 236 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: So I think it was it was justified. I think 237 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: some frustration came out, and players do interpret it as 238 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: having their back, especially you know, a Wheeler and a Stot, 239 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: and that that situation would feel that way, Stubbs, it does. 240 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: Do you remember a time, you guys when the Phillies 241 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: good teams under Charlie were not playing well. They were 242 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: like in this daze. They were like zombies sleepwalking, and 243 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: Charlie lost it on them in the dugout in Miami. 244 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: Do you remember and talking about picking your spot? And 245 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 3: I have no doubt it was sincere. He was legitimately frustrated. 246 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: But you talk about going out and taking it on 247 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: an umpire. How it you know, it can send a 248 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 3: message or be interpreted as you know, the team has 249 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: your back. It can be the manager has the team's 250 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: back and be a wake up call. Also, Charlie, who's 251 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: ultimate players manager, blowing up and his players can have 252 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 3: a you know, some emotion at the right time can 253 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: really in a sport where it's an even keeled emotional sport, 254 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: showing some emotion at at certain times picking your spots 255 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: can be very, very impactful. I believe and I always 256 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: remember that night Charlie went off in Miami. You guys 257 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: remember it. 258 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: I do remember that. I remember he walked up and 259 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: down the dugout. As I recall, you know how Charlie talks. 260 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: His head was kind of cocked to the side and 261 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: the one hand was kind of like, you guys, He's 262 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: basically tell him how bad they were, and the effort 263 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: wasn't there. Yeah, I totally remember that one. 264 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. 265 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 4: Believe in and listen, I will talk. I will tell 266 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: you that Rob tom has been around the game a 267 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: long time. He's seen managers operate. He's seen from Joe 268 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: Torre to Joe Girardi, et cetera, et cetera. He's seen 269 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: a lot of baseball and he's seen a lot of 270 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: people handle themselves as leaders. 271 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: I think Rob Thompson is a gem. I really do. 272 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: I think he's intelligent. I think he's impactful. I think 273 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: he's meaningful and intentional and uh, and he really does 274 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: know how hard this game is. 275 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: And so I think he's real souper super supportive. And 276 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: I think if you. 277 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: If the players know that he has your back, then 278 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: it gives you license to get on them. I mean, 279 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: Bobby Cox was like that too, one of the best 280 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: managers of all time. Bobby Cox would be super super 281 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: supportive of as players publicly, but it also gave him 282 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: license to zip him when he had to, you know, 283 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 4: take him into the you know, take him into the club, 284 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 4: into his office and pop them and say, hey, man, 285 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: you're not giving me what I need or with this 286 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: team needs, or whatever the case may be. And so 287 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: I think that that I think the ejection probably a 288 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: little combination. He's a human being, a little combination of 289 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: being a little. 290 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 5: Frustrated with the with what was going on as theirs 291 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 5: as far as their overall play, but also uh, trying 292 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 5: to make sure that he has his players backs and uh, 293 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: and also maybe given off. 294 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,479 Speaker 2: He's a human being, right, given off a little steam. 295 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes sometimes you got to get a little pissed 296 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: off and that's okay and uh and I think that's 297 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: that's good stuff. 298 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: Do you think he could gets suspended. 299 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: I I don't think so. 300 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: I mean, even if he might just get it a 301 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: little fine, I don't feel gets suspended. But but I 302 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: think they missed the call and the ball hit the 303 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: dudes hit study his foot. I mean, there was no 304 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: question about it. And I can't believe that they screwed 305 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: that up, but they did. On top of that, I mean, 306 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 4: he had a legitimate beef. If this is the guy 307 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: at second base was making the call when Eastbrook was 308 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: standing right there right, I mean, he should have should 309 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: have seen the ball hit the foot. 310 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like he was getting blocked off 311 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: by Retchman or anything like that, or catching it. 312 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: The only reason I asked about the suspension is I 313 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: was looking at memorable ejections and Charlie got tossed. On 314 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: May fifteenth, twenty twelve, he and Bob Davidson went nose 315 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: to nose in a game, balking bomb bucking Bob. Yeah, 316 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: they went nose to nose and both of them got suspended. 317 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: Charlie got suspended. I think maybe just Bob's Davidson got suspended. 318 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: He got suspended for one game for his actions and 319 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: not de escalating the situation. And that did not look 320 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: like a situation that was trying. Anybody was trying to. 321 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: De escalate that one. 322 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: It was like, let's let like, let these guys go. 323 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: That was wild, right, Yeah, yeah, they both got after it. 324 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: A little bit. 325 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: That was old school. We don't see a lot of 326 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: that anymore with technology and the robotization of the game. 327 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: Speaking of which I mean, someday we might see automatic 328 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: strike zone, automated strike zone where the wheeler pitch, you know, 329 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: the hitter or the pitcher or the catcher would tap 330 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: it ahead and get a challenge and it's a strike. 331 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: I mean, how do we feel about that? 332 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: I think we're headed there. 333 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: I mean, the slippery started when and I remember David 334 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: Montgomery talking about it when the challenges in general were 335 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: going to happen. At some point, all of it was 336 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: going to start working its way down the slope. 337 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: And so it's going to happen. 338 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: It's just that I'm not sure exactly how they're going 339 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: to manage it, but I'm sure they'll manage it one 340 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: way or another, whether whether it's a challenge or it's 341 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 4: automatic all the time. 342 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the idea of a challenge system. I know, 343 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: I think, I know, Ruben, I believe you said you 344 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: like the human element of the game, and I don't 345 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: disagree with that, But I will say that that perspective 346 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: always changes. If it's Game seven of the NLCS, Bryce 347 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Harper's up three to two and it's ball four and 348 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: it's it's called strike three, games over. You know, those 349 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: are the moments where I go, I'm not so much. 350 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how much I'm into the human element 351 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: of the game. The Phillies, you know, or your team 352 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: whoever you're rooting for, just lost a key moment. 353 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: You know. 354 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure Jim Joyce would love to, you know, instant replay. 355 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: His could have saved a lot of big moments in 356 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: baseball history, changed a lot of big moments in baseball history, 357 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: like that perfect game in Detroit many many years ago. 358 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I felt so felt so badly for Jim. Such 359 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: a great guy and a great total empire. 360 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 4: I mean, he's literally a I think he is a 361 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame umpire and a Hall of Fame person. 362 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: And he was legitimately crushed by that. 363 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: That was you know, that was because he was a 364 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: good umpire he was. I remember that we were in 365 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Atlanta when that happened. I remember being in the Atlanta airport, 366 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: you know, you know, waiting for a flight back to 367 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: Philly at like a TGI Fridays and grabbing something. You 368 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 3: might have been with me, Todd, and we're watching that 369 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: unfold on the TV. And then I get on the 370 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: plane and I'm following it on on the you know, 371 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: I think I was following it on Twitter the whole 372 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: It was just crazy. And then do you remember Jim 373 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: Joyce was in Philadelphia the next day that crew came 374 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: to Philadelphia, because I remember seeing him and actually saying 375 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: Hi to him, and he was still pretty shaken. And 376 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: replay would have saved that whole thing. Remember who the 377 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: runner was? Was it a former Philly Yes, the Cleveland 378 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: he was with Cleveland? 379 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: Was it Michael Martinez? 380 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Jason Donald? 381 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: It was Jason Donald. Then he comes about the bag 382 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: and he's like, oh my god. It was a rough 383 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: scene that I wouldn't wish on anybody. 384 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: And that's why I like the idea of a challenge system. 385 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you get three challenges per team per strike zone, 386 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: so you have to have to make sure the guys 387 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: that know the strike zone, you have to make sure 388 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: you're right, you know the automatic full automatic strike zone. 389 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: Sounds like it could extend the games a little bit 390 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: and not really help as much as you want. So 391 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: I like that idea, a little challenge. 392 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: It's gonna happen in the next year or two. 393 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Right, right, So trade turner is going to be activated today, 394 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: we all assumed. Rob Thompson basically said, unless something unforeseen happens, 395 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: the expected move is Johann Rojas getting optioned to Triple 396 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: I suppose they could change their mind, or you know, 397 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: maybe they haven't totally made up their mind yet. Uh, 398 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: Johann Rojas getting optioned to Triple A to kind of 399 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: boost their off field production. Brandon Marsh presumably will be 400 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: the center fielder, maybe sharing some time with Christian Pace. 401 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: You have some combination of David Dahl, Wit Mayfield, maybe 402 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: ed Mundo Sosen left field. We like this. 403 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna boost your offense a little bit, 404 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: has the potential to boost your offense and probably maybe 405 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: not even weak in your defense because Rojas hasn't been 406 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: He made a nice play in Baltimore for the weekend, 407 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: but he hasn't been you know, the you know, double 408 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: plus defender they thought he would be. He hasn't been 409 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: an elite level, But he's also not a f product. 410 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: I don't think some time if he approaches it the 411 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: right way mentally, he may take it pretty hard. He's 412 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: been up in the big leagues for a while and 413 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: the teammates like him. But if he approaches it the 414 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: right way as a chance to play regularly and and 415 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: just go out and try to improve and get back here, 416 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: it could be beneficial for him and the team. We'll say, Ruben, 417 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: what do you think. 418 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been through it myself. I mean, obviously not. 419 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: The prospector of talent that he was, but he you know, 420 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 4: I get the I understand the feeling, and in some 421 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: ways it may be a little bit of an all 422 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: albatross taken off. 423 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 2: Him because there's some pressure to be up there and 424 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: to perform for a team that's winning. 425 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: Obviously there'll be a disappointment if he is sent out. 426 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: But but again, I mean in some ways it may 427 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: it really should benefit him. 428 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: I think he needs to work. 429 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 4: On some things and think he's he can be a 430 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: better offensive player. He is not as you said Jim, 431 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: not a finished product. But but I think this is 432 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 4: a good thing. I just feel like this is a 433 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: good time for them to do it. And it also 434 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 4: opens up the thought process and it, you know, sends 435 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: off some alarms as to what the Phillies might be 436 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: thinking about doing at the trade deadline, and pretty they 437 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 4: need some production from the outfield, they really do. And 438 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: so you see, I know that trade turner's coming back 439 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: and marsh is going to start, you know, getting back 440 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: into the rhythm of things. But I do believe that 441 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: they would benefit from thinking about getting somebody on the corner, 442 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: maybe left field who can bang it around a little bit, 443 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 4: or center field who can bang it around a little 444 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 4: bit with with a little bit more authority, and give 445 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: them a little bit more depth in that than that lineup, 446 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 4: because there are going to be times when and right 447 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: now is one of those times when you know, the 448 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: big boys aren't aren't producing and they need some they 449 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: need some production from the guys in the you know, 450 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 4: down further than the lineup. 451 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the outfield production. Rubin Phillies outfielders twenty 452 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: seventh in Baseball six twenty five ops center field, mostly 453 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: with Rojas twenty seventh, five seventy five left field, twentieth 454 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: six seventy six right field with castianis you know, he's 455 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: not going anywhere six twenty three, that's twenty fourth in baseball, 456 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, they have you know, it kind of frees 457 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: him up a little bit. I guess if you put 458 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: Rojas down there, it does give him an extra right, 459 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, more reason, more reason to think that they'll 460 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: that they'll go out and do something. So you think, 461 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: here's do you play Marsh? Do you run him out 462 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: there every day? 463 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: Now? 464 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: You talk about you need some more offensive production, and 465 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: everybody says, how's Marsh going to hit lefties if he 466 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: doesn't face lefties? But he has really struggled against lefties 467 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: this season and in his career, So how do you 468 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: balance that, Well, we're sending Rojas down because we need 469 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: more offensive production, but Brandon Marsh doesn't really hit lefties 470 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: this year or that well, this year he's betting one 471 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: thirty five three ninety nineteen strikeouts and forty four played 472 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: appearances against lefties. How often do you play them against lefties? 473 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not at all. Maybe you know, if Pash 474 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 3: is going to hit lefties, you might have to just 475 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: go straight platoon. You know, I don't know what the 476 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 3: answer is, But if you're sending down Rojas, obviously he's 477 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: got an option that makes it a little smoother. But 478 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: if you're trying to find more production in the outfield, 479 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: you owe to yourself to go with the platoon if 480 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: that's going to give you the most production. It's not 481 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: necessarily another chance to find out if Marsh can hit 482 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: lefties or give him more training there. You're here to 483 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: win a division and win ball games. If he gets 484 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: a stray start against a lefty and he looks good, 485 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: maybe he gets another one. But I think you got 486 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: to prioritize production, and if it's a platoon with Pasha 487 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 3: and Marsh, that's probably the way I would go. 488 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: You guys, so I'm totally different. I would just run 489 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: him out there right now. They have a luxury being 490 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: able to do that. I'd run him out there every 491 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: single day and find out find out if he can 492 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 4: do it. As you as you get closer and closer 493 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: to the UH the trade headline, to decide whether or not, Okay, 494 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: what do I need in the outfield on the corner, 495 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: basically left field, If I can truly trust Brandon marsh 496 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: to be our center fielder, to be, you know, our 497 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 4: center fielder for a World championship team. I would run 498 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: them out there every single day from now on end. 499 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 4: I would let him hit as many lefties as possible 500 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: and find out and if he can't do it, then 501 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: I know then I know, I know. I know it's 502 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: been a while, and I know he's had but he's 503 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: he's had sort of sporadic opportunities to hit against lefties. 504 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: He hasn't given him like every single lefty. 505 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: I think you just run him out there, find out 506 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 4: what he can do, whether he can end up making 507 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 4: an adjustment or not. And if he can't, now they 508 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: may they may have Lady made his decision. But if 509 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: he can't, then then you know, And I think that 510 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 4: they gave the luxury of being able to do that 511 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 4: right now. 512 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. 513 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 4: They're in the business of winning and they don't want 514 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: to start slim, I think. But they still have eight 515 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: games up on the Braves, and the Braves are getting 516 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: more hurt. 517 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they lost you know Harris too again. 518 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 4: I mean, they keep having problems in their outfield. They're 519 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: not producing it's not a great team right now. They're 520 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: not playing great and there's nobody else pushing them. 521 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: But we also know that. I think regardless of the lead, 522 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: you have managers and teams fall in love with production, 523 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: and there's evidence on this team in Sosa. I don't 524 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: think he was option, you know, I don't think he 525 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: was the preferred option to fill in for Trey Turner. 526 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 3: I think he produced and kind of seized that opportunity. 527 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: So hey, if what you're saying, if marsh is going 528 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: to get looks against lefties, he's got to seize it. 529 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 3: But if he doesn't and they go platoon and it works, 530 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: I think they're going to ride that regardless of their 531 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 3: of their ad in the standings. 532 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: Do we think we're actually going to see Sosa in 533 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: left fields? 534 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: Next question? That great question. 535 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 536 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, because we hear this all the time. While 537 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna give this guy some looks, you know, we're 538 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: gonna give him some looks, and then the games actually 539 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: play and then you go like what happened? Edmund knows 540 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: Alsa playing left field? It's like, well, you know, we 541 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: got David Doll, We've got with Merrifield. They're more experienced 542 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: you wa, you know, so that that will be interesting 543 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: if they actually do play Sosa in left field as 544 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: some sort of like three headed platoon situation with with 545 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: those three guys. If it is again, if it is 546 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Rojas getting sent down, A lot. 547 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: Of it depends on whether Merorfield. 548 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 4: They feel merriorfield is Uh is able to do that, 549 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: and when they think that Sosa is more going to 550 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 4: be more productive with the bats, and why not give 551 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: Sosia an opportunity out there and left And I think 552 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 4: Rob Thompson hinted to hinted at it just recently. He said, Hey, 553 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: it's going to start to taking some flying off, So 554 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: I'm okay with toss someone out there. And again with 555 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: has Uh is that some decent at that but hasn't 556 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 4: been super productive and certainly has been more productive with 557 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: the bat than than some of the other guys there 558 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: Pash included, So hey, they might throw him out there 559 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: as well. 560 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: If if indeed it's Rojas Rubin, I mean, you've been 561 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: been there, You've been on both sides of it. But 562 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: from an executive standpoint, the guy who's been in with 563 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: the big league team for close to a year, he 564 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: came at blaged to lie. How difficult is that conversation? 565 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: How delicate is that conversation? Knowing you're dealing with a 566 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 3: young guy and confidence is so important, you don't want 567 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 3: to break them and shatter them. You want them to 568 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: grow from this. Tell me how how that conversation is handled. 569 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: So I would basically bring every one of the people 570 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: that sort of touch him and work with him into 571 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: that meeting, So not just be the manager. 572 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: It would be you know, Paco Figueroa, who works with 573 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: him in the outfield. 574 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 4: It would be Kevin Long who works with him, maybe 575 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: even the assisting hitting coach as well, And I would 576 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 4: bring in the minor league director. I'd fly him in 577 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: wherever he was and we would sit down and have 578 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: the conversation. This is the plan for you, these are 579 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 4: the things that we'd like you to work on. This 580 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 4: is going to be long term for you. This is 581 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: going to be the right it's going to be the 582 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: right thing for you. And let's be honest, hey, you're 583 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 4: you're not producing at the level that we need you to. 584 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 4: You can and will and then kind of go from there. 585 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: So that's that's it. In a nutshell, it's a it's delicate, 586 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: but it's I mean, I've been there, and I want 587 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: people to be honest with me. 588 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: That was one thing that was. 589 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: Really important for me, for a person to be straight 590 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: and honest and open and direct about what they needed 591 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: from me, so that when I went down there and 592 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 4: did what I needed to do, that I would be 593 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: back up. 594 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: And and be, you know, be a productive player. But 595 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: nothing like honesty. 596 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: And I've had that conversation with a couple of guys 597 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: that was a utility player a long, long time ago, 598 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: was interesting utilally a long time ago, and he used 599 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 4: to be with the Angels, and I can't I'm brain 600 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 4: locking on his name right now, but he was a 601 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: middle infielder and I was an assistant GM and he 602 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: was having a decent spring. 603 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: And he got sent out. 604 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: He had he had options or I think he was 605 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: a six year free agent, was battling for a utility spot, 606 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 4: and he became a long term manager in one of 607 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: the organ like another organization. 608 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: He was a Cleveland Indians. Later on, but. 609 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 4: I was at a reading it and he asked me. 610 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: He actually got sent out, and then he came he 611 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: wanted to have a meeting with me personally. He said 612 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 4: can you please tell me why I got sent out. 613 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: I said, I'm going to be honest with you, my friend, 614 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: because you're not good enough to play in and they 615 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: leagues right now. You're a good player, but you're not 616 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 4: major league talent, and we need people at the major 617 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: league level to be major league talented and to make 618 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: these and to have an impact on our team. And 619 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: he hated me for a while when I told him that, 620 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: because that's a tough thing to hear when you're trying 621 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 4: to be a major league player. He came to me 622 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: years later as a manager. He actually I went to 623 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 4: see his team, who's managing a team in the Eastern League. 624 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: He came to me later on and said, rub. 625 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: And I just want to let you know, now that 626 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: I'm in position, I totally understand how you handled this. 627 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: He said, I really respect, I've grown to respect and understand, 628 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: and I really appreciate how honest you were with me, 629 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: because now I have to do the same thing with them, 630 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 4: some of the players we have to release or send 631 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 4: down or whatever. And I understand from this perspective what 632 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 4: it takes to be in your position. And that really 633 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 4: actually made me feel really good because that's how that's 634 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 4: what I wanted to hear when I was getting sent 635 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: out or I was being optioned, or I was being released, 636 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be. And uh, and I 637 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: think that that was an important part of the process. 638 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if one of the messages that Johan will 639 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: get again, if it is him getting optioned today, is 640 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: remember in spring training when you were out there every 641 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: morning with Sean Williams working on your bunning drills, Maybe 642 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: try dropping a few more bunts. You know he's got 643 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: one bunt hitt all year. You know that was a 644 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: thing going into the season, is we want this guy 645 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: bunting a lot, utilizing his speed, and he really hasn't 646 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: done that. So I don't know. I wonder if that 647 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: would be part of the message or is that maybe overrated? 648 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, I think the whole I 649 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: think for him is the whole game. I mean, defensively 650 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: got a little lackadaisical. You know, he was one of 651 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: those guys who busted at all the times. 652 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: One of the things I was really impressed by him 653 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: that he he was very conscientious, didn't get too cool 654 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 4: in the outfield. 655 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: Now you see him in the major leagues. 656 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: Get a little too cool little, you know, make some 657 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: mistakes here and there, you know there. I think the 658 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 4: entire game. He needs to work on the entire game, 659 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: because he's not a finished product. He's got talent and 660 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: he has ability, but he's got the he's got the 661 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 4: whole game's got to work on. 662 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: And that's the whole reason why they had the minor leagues. 663 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: Right So tonight Philly is open. Ten of their next 664 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: thirteen are at home. Monday night Tonight, Christopher Sanchez versus 665 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: Randy Vasquez Padres, He's one in three four nine three ERA. Tuesday, 666 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 1: it's Aaron Nola versus Michael King Righty five four three 667 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: five eight ERA, and then they finish it up on Wednesday, 668 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: Rangers Suarez versus Matt Waldron four and six three six 669 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: six ear A pottery is going into the weekend. We're 670 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: one of the only five hundred teams above, only National 671 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: League teams above five hundred. 672 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: So just swept by the Mets. 673 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: Just swept by the Mets exactly, so they're kind of 674 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: reeling a little bit. So good opportunity for the Phillies 675 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: to try to get healthy. It will be good to 676 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: get in front of the home crowd, So we will 677 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: be back later this week. Phillies do have an off 678 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: day coming up, Like you guys mentioned at the top 679 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: of show, they much needed off day that's coming up 680 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: on Thursday. But so we'll be back on Thursday. 681 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: Smelling and Jim. 682 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: This is the Philly Show. If you haven't already, please 683 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: subscribe to The Philly Show wherever you get your podcasts. 684 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: You can also watch us on our YouTube channel. If 685 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: you like what we do, give us a review, tell 686 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: a friend. 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