Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he.
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 2: And I've vaccinated all my kids.
Speaker 4: I believe vaccines are one of the modern miracles. Beyond
Speaker 4: all Pale, The Speckled Monster is a great book about
Speaker 4: the introduction of the smallpox vaccine in seventeen twenty into
Speaker 4: our country. All miracles, But I'm not a one size
Speaker 4: fits all. It's not all or nothing. I chose to
Speaker 4: wait on my Hepatitis B vaccine and we did it
Speaker 4: when they went to schools. That made me an awful person?
Speaker 4: Does that make me an anti vaxxer? Because I questioned
Speaker 4: the government dictative whether I do it? And I'm not
Speaker 4: speaking for anybody else. I'm only speaking for myself. But
Speaker 4: for goodness sakes, let's have an honest debate about these things.
Speaker 5: Senator Ran Paula Kentucky, who's an ophthalmologist, he's actual medical professional,
Speaker 5: weighing in at the RFK Junior hearing yesterday, and you heard.
Speaker 6: The main point of his screed there at the end,
Speaker 6: and you'll hear it more. The idea that can we
Speaker 6: stop insisting we must all be of lockstep on some
Speaker 6: of these difficult questions. We have to have an atmosphere
Speaker 6: of honest debate, and he's absolutely right. Anything else to
Speaker 6: add or shall we plunge on Let's hit it.
Speaker 2: Biden's FAA exceeded.
Speaker 6: Its goal in Hello, Hello Michael, the co pay attention
Speaker 6: if you ask me my opinion.
Speaker 4: The reporters are uping down the hall and they say
Speaker 4: you still anti vaccine. No, I'm pro vaccine, but on
Speaker 4: the COVID vaccine and on the COVID illness there was
Speaker 4: a thousandfold or more difference between the elderly and children.
Speaker 4: If you don't acknowledge that you're committing malpractices, you're showing
Speaker 4: your ignorance. If you say a six month old must
Speaker 4: be mandated to get it.
Speaker 2: The science is not there.
Speaker 4: So all this blather about the science says this, and
Speaker 4: the science says.
Speaker 2: That, no, it doesn't. The science actually shows it.
Speaker 4: No healthy child in America died from COVID.
Speaker 2: Look it up. No healthy child died from COVID.
Speaker 5: An amazing stat given the fact that we had yellow
Speaker 5: caution tape around playground structures and little kids wearing masks.
Speaker 5: Good lord, we haven't even talked about that part of it,
Speaker 5: So that this was a school being closed and the
Speaker 5: parks being closed on all this sort of stuff. Poor
Speaker 5: little kids running around with masks on, can't see you know,
Speaker 5: the other kids' faces.
Speaker 3: Or whatever for no reason.
Speaker 6: Right even when that became clear because of Trump derangement syndrome,
Speaker 6: absolutely unforgivable.
Speaker 3: Rand Paul rolls on.
Speaker 4: So if you ask me my advice as a physician,
Speaker 4: if you were sixty five or older, or overweight and
Speaker 4: some other conditions, I would have said, hell, yes, I'd
Speaker 4: take the COVID vaccine. The risks of the disease were
Speaker 4: real and much greater than the vaccine. But if you
Speaker 4: ask me, should my healthy six month old get it? See,
Speaker 4: these are the nuances you're unwilling to talk about because
Speaker 4: there's such a belief in submission. Submit to the government
Speaker 4: to what you're told. There is no discussion. There ought
Speaker 4: to be a debate. You're not going to let him
Speaker 4: have the debate because you're just going to criticize and
Speaker 4: say it is this and admit to it, or we're
Speaker 4: not going to appoint you. But it's more complicated than that,
Speaker 4: and this is why people distrust government because you're unwilling
Speaker 4: to have these conversations.
Speaker 2: And I go home, ask your Democrat young.
Speaker 4: Mothers, your Republican young mothers, if they're vaccinating their kid
Speaker 4: for appetitis being They're.
Speaker 3: Like, well, do I have to do it? Do on
Speaker 3: day one?
Speaker 4: Is this precious little baby? Is there science to say
Speaker 4: you shouldn't do it? Probably not, But it's my kid.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, there isn't clear cut science saying not to.
Speaker 7: I need to start saying nuances instead of a nuance.
Speaker 6: Please don't, please don't do that. He pointed out earlier
Speaker 6: in his screen. I guess it was edited out that
Speaker 6: hepatitis B is generally spread through drug use of needle drugs,
Speaker 6: and sexuals.
Speaker 5: You're making an assumption that my six month old is
Speaker 5: not a smack addict having unprotected sex with randos.
Speaker 3: The idea that a.
Speaker 6: One day old kid needs that vaccine, then it's you know,
Speaker 6: if I'm wrong about this, I will manfully announce it
Speaker 6: and apologize. But I suspect very very strongly that the
Speaker 6: idea is we will get much higher compliance if we
Speaker 6: have the HEV vaccine part of the battery of things
Speaker 6: that you give the kid in the hospital while the
Speaker 6: kid is there. And you know, if we let people
Speaker 6: wait until it's actually necessary, we'll get lower compliance and
Speaker 6: more people will get sick and hurt and die and
Speaker 6: the rest of it. Again, maybe it's sort of kind
Speaker 6: of well meaning, but I think we're all sick of
Speaker 6: that sort of paternalism and dishonesty to get us to comply.
Speaker 3: Rolling along.
Speaker 4: But on autism, there's no good science of anything to
Speaker 4: show what causes autism.
Speaker 7: We don't know.
Speaker 4: It's a profound disease. I know many moms here and
Speaker 4: dads who have kids that autics. I know them personally,
Speaker 4: I've met their kids. But the thing is is they
Speaker 4: saw their kids developing completely normal, maybe speaking one hundred words,
Speaker 4: go to no words at about fifteen months of age. Now,
Speaker 4: there isn't proof.
Speaker 2: There isn't proof that the vaccines caused it. That's true.
Speaker 2: There isn't proof that it calls it. But we don't
Speaker 2: know what causes it yet.
Speaker 4: So shouldn't we be at least open minded We take
Speaker 4: seventy two vaccines.
Speaker 2: Could it be?
Speaker 4: I don't know, But we shouldn't just close the door
Speaker 4: and say we're no longer because we believe so much
Speaker 4: in submission, we're not going to have an open mind
Speaker 4: to study these things. And so it's sort of this
Speaker 4: crazy notion.
Speaker 6: I have found no compelling evidence that indeed autism is
Speaker 6: caused by inoculations vaccines. On the other hand, is ran
Speaker 6: Paul makes clear again that's yet another example of if
Speaker 6: we even have an honest debate and look at this
Speaker 6: and have some more studies and all in an open way,
Speaker 6: we will have lower compliance rates. It's all about compliance.
Speaker 6: And again with a few exceptions. Maybe I think complying
Speaker 6: with a lot of the vaccine policies is a really
Speaker 6: really good idea. But the days of being able to
Speaker 6: just shout to the sheeople what they have to do
Speaker 6: and they'll all line up and do it, even though
Speaker 6: you're presenting it dishonestly, I just there's so much information
Speaker 6: out there they can't get away with it anymore.
Speaker 7: Are there seventy two that your kid has to get
Speaker 7: to go to school?
Speaker 3: Now, I've seen that repeatedly. I don't know that that's true.
Speaker 7: If it's half that many, that's a lot total doses.
Speaker 5: Perhaps, yeah, And I'm including boosters, you know, I'm so
Speaker 5: cynical about government. It's just particularly pre COVID, we paid
Speaker 5: so little attention to this. Why would I believe that
Speaker 5: somebody somewhere doesn't think, hey, you know what, you get
Speaker 5: this on the mandated list, that's worth five billion dollars.
Speaker 5: How do we get that through whatever committee to get
Speaker 5: you know, add one more when there's already seventy one,
Speaker 5: thirty six or whatever shots adding one more that nobody's
Speaker 5: paying any attention to. You just take your kid to
Speaker 5: the doctor and then hey, you need this group of
Speaker 5: injections to go to first grade.
Speaker 7: And everybody just says, Okay.
Speaker 5: There's so much money involved. I find it hard to
Speaker 5: believe that there's zero malfeasan's going on. Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 6: Very very little profit in vaccines, but times a billion, yeah,
Speaker 6: maybe it becomes significant. The you know, the aspect of
Speaker 6: it that.
Speaker 3: I think is likely.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't have any proof this is happening, but
Speaker 6: the government and its mandates, particularly in the wake of COVID,
Speaker 6: I think deserve whatever is the opposite of the benefit
Speaker 6: of the doubt. If somebody came to me and showed
Speaker 6: me the secret memo that said, look, if we get
Speaker 6: ninety eight percent compliance with this vaccine. We will prevent
Speaker 6: ten thousand deaths a year. It's going to result in
Speaker 6: about a thousand kids getting being autistic, but as a
Speaker 6: net gain, it's it's a good So we're just gonna
Speaker 6: be quiet about the autism stuff. And I don't actually
Speaker 6: believe that's happening. But if you do, because of what
Speaker 6: you've observed from the government, I can't call you crazy.
Speaker 5: Right, there's no possible way they know what the long
Speaker 5: term effect of the combination of some of these vaccines
Speaker 5: are because they haven't aroblem long enough.
Speaker 3: Right. More of the Randyman.
Speaker 2: Schizophrenia, I would put in the same notion.
Speaker 4: You have a kid who's completely normal to eighteen or
Speaker 4: nineteen and their brain goes heywire. How does that happen?
Speaker 4: It's the most bizarre disease. Shouldn't we be open Could
Speaker 4: it be our food? It might be vaccines, it might
Speaker 4: be our food. But autism is more common. I don't
Speaker 4: know about the schizophrenia statistics, but autisms more common.
Speaker 2: Should we want to be open minded? Instead?
Speaker 4: We're so close minded and we're so consensus driven that
Speaker 4: the science says this, well, science doesn't say anything. Science
Speaker 4: is a dispute, and ten years from now we could.
Speaker 2: All be wrong.
Speaker 3: Roll on, Curly, roll on.
Speaker 4: Twenty years ago, they did this enormous study and they
Speaker 4: said everybody over fifty should take an aspirin.
Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's a pretty good idea. It makes sense.
Speaker 4: But you know what, twenty years later they measured it
Speaker 4: and they found if you had no heart disease and
Speaker 4: you were taking aspen, your chance of dying from a
Speaker 4: brain bleed or from a stomach bleed were greater than
Speaker 4: the risk of heart disease. You have heart disease, they
Speaker 4: still say take an aspirin if you don't have changed
Speaker 4: your mind twenty years later. But would you have all
Speaker 4: said I was crazy and I should no longer be
Speaker 4: in public discourse if I had said twenty years ago,
Speaker 4: I don't feel like taking an asper I ride my
Speaker 4: bike all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid it might hit my head. But that's what
Speaker 2: country's about, is what this sentence is about.
Speaker 7: That's a good example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is one final clip.
Speaker 4: So just ask you to look at the larger picture
Speaker 4: and give the guy break who says I just want
Speaker 4: to follow the science where it leads without presupposition. I
Speaker 4: think Really, what we have up here is presupposition. You've
Speaker 4: already concluded it's absolute that ought isn't caused by We
Speaker 4: don't know what causes autism, so we should be more
Speaker 4: humble in what we say.
Speaker 7: Sorry, I didn't get to a.
Speaker 6: Question that doesn't make me say therefore, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Speaker 6: But you can't deny that we are openly having some
Speaker 6: of these conversations thanks to our FKA Junior and his advocacy.
Speaker 6: He's got some really troubling conflicts of interest, and he's
Speaker 6: half a con man if you ask me.
Speaker 3: But still dat.
Speaker 5: Knows how to turn lemons in the lemonade. You find
Speaker 5: a dead bear, what do you do? You just leave
Speaker 5: it there? You bury it?
Speaker 7: No, you come up with a hilarious.
Speaker 6: Prank, not to mention the underrated, bringing a whales head home,
Speaker 6: chain sawing it off the whale and then strapping it
Speaker 6: to the roof of your car as its juice is
Speaker 6: dripped down the window.
Speaker 3: Barbaric.
Speaker 5: Okay, we got on a topic earlier we need to
Speaker 5: fix when we come back. As we finished strong with
Speaker 5: the is flatulent speech. I vote no, I don't think
Speaker 5: it has First Amendment protections.
Speaker 6: It is unmistakably speech in this instance, and I believe
Speaker 6: that Thomas Jefferson would agree with me, certainly Ben Franklin,
Speaker 6: who was a big fan of flatulence.
Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show, The.
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about buying the Apple Vision Pro VR headset
Speaker 5: for myself for my birthday. What sold me on what
Speaker 5: to maybe own it this time around is the update
Speaker 5: that Apple just did that I've been reading about. So
Speaker 5: you can take VR three D spatial photos now with
Speaker 5: your phone or you can take them with the VR,
Speaker 5: and then when you look at those photos, it's almost disturbing,
Speaker 5: as we all know that something goes on with a
Speaker 5: two D photo. I mean, it's nice to look at
Speaker 5: a picture of your kid's fifth birthday party and now they're,
Speaker 5: you know, college kids. It's cool to have that picture,
Speaker 5: but there's something that's lost with the two D news
Speaker 5: of it or something like that. The photos in the
Speaker 5: VR headset are as if you were sitting there and
Speaker 5: it screws with your head.
Speaker 7: Man, it really does.
Speaker 5: But I guess with the new technology, the latest technology,
Speaker 5: they do a pretty good job of that. With all
Speaker 5: your old photos from your phone, of turning it into
Speaker 5: three D and having the feeling of you're actually there.
Speaker 5: I don't even know if I can handle it emotionally
Speaker 5: to look at some of those photos to be back
Speaker 5: in the room when they're born, or their second birthday party,
Speaker 5: or the videos. Oh my god, I don't even know
Speaker 5: if I could handle it. I don't know if human
Speaker 5: beings can handle it. Can you handle being right back
Speaker 5: in that moment where it completely fools your brain like.
Speaker 7: You're there, Oh my god, my kids are two again.
Speaker 3: Just just thinking.
Speaker 5: About it gives me the gets me all excited. It is,
Speaker 5: just so I'm going to try that out and see
Speaker 5: what that's like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a really intriguing question though, because you know,
Speaker 6: something that left in my mind immediately was there were
Speaker 6: no photographs at all until fairly recently.
Speaker 3: And I mean a tenth of a blink of an eye.
Speaker 6: On the evolutionary scale, how far back do you have
Speaker 6: to go? Really, anything that happened anything more recent than
Speaker 6: two hundred years ago is obviously clearly indisputably something we're
Speaker 6: not designed for. It might be harmless, or it might
Speaker 6: be good. I mean, like antibiotics for instance, thumbs up
Speaker 6: on antiotics.
Speaker 7: Wow, you're not RFK Junior.
Speaker 3: But no.
Speaker 6: The idea of pictures of your kids so you can
Speaker 6: permanently remember how they looked at a certain age is
Speaker 6: something that was unknown on Earth until very very recently.
Speaker 7: How about it? You can get can be there.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know if we're built that way.
Speaker 5: I saw an example when I did the the demonstration
Speaker 5: at the Apple Store of a kid's birthday party recorded
Speaker 5: on that device, and it was like I was sitting
Speaker 5: at that birthday party. Yeah, and man, ah, your your wedding,
Speaker 5: your your people who people who have passed, Mom and
Speaker 5: dad you know, no longer alive, and here you are
Speaker 5: sitting at the dinner table talk. You can't talk to them, obviously,
Speaker 5: but it's it's as if for your brain that it's real.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: So I was reading about the reviews before I drop
Speaker 5: a fair amount of money on this thing and everything
Speaker 5: like that, and there was there was a link on
Speaker 5: there about the advances they've made in what do you guess?
Speaker 5: On the VR thing? And I had to click on that,
Speaker 5: and I almost wish I hadn't. Now I haven't seen
Speaker 5: what that would be like in a vision pro and
Speaker 5: I won't because I'm not gonna try that. I don't
Speaker 5: want it on my computer. I don't want to link
Speaker 5: to whatever site you get it. But I was looking
Speaker 5: at the videos and it and since I've had the
Speaker 5: experience of the sitting at the kids' birthday party or
Speaker 5: sitting by the lake and knowing how that was looking
Speaker 5: at the VR video even in two D and thinking,
Speaker 5: oh my god, if that was in full three D,
Speaker 5: like I'm in the room, how would any man ever
Speaker 5: leave their house? I mean, seriously, it's going to be.
Speaker 6: Taken break on Sunday afternoons to watch football.
Speaker 5: We already have a problem with internet porn. Yes, I'm asking,
Speaker 5: is the human brain ready to, you know, relive your
Speaker 5: kids to year old birthday party? Is the human brain
Speaker 5: ready to be completely fooled, completely.
Speaker 6: Fooled by a sexual interaction. No, no, is the answer
Speaker 6: to your question.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 6: It will decimate humankind or whatever part of it has that.
Speaker 8: Oh god, yeah, we we have of invented pleasures we
Speaker 8: are not meant to have as human beings that we
Speaker 8: can't handle, that a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people can't hand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it will do us in Yeah,
Speaker 5: we're in to bring new world territory there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, whether you know us on an individual level or
Speaker 6: as a civilization or as a species, it's it's, without
Speaker 6: a question, not good. Just because something can exist doesn't
Speaker 6: make it good. I mean, people need to get through that.
Speaker 6: Just because the society is doing something, just because your
Speaker 6: next door neighbors are doing something, just because on the
Speaker 6: Internet people say this is.
Speaker 3: Cool, does not in any way make any of it cool.
Speaker 6: You really, you know, I'm sure there's some brilliant philosophers
Speaker 6: who's been more eloquent on this than me. But you
Speaker 6: need to decide what sort of life you want to
Speaker 6: live independent of what you're being told by people making
Speaker 6: money or telling you what your lifestyle should be, or
Speaker 6: you will be swept up by people who do not
Speaker 6: have your best interest in mind, and you will crash
Speaker 6: on the rocks of pleasure.
Speaker 7: Crash on the rocks of pleasure.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people would sign up for that,
Speaker 5: even as described the way it was just described.
Speaker 3: That was a rough draft.
Speaker 6: I'd hate for the metaphor police to come and arrest
Speaker 6: me for mixing too many of them together.
Speaker 3: But arm strong.
Speaker 5: The armstrong and getting shot, I'm some interesting sleep stats
Speaker 5: for you. Everybody sleeps or talks about sleep. It seems
Speaker 5: everybody does sleep. It does seem everybody talks about sleep.
Speaker 5: I am having as I now officially called a crisis,
Speaker 5: a sleep crisis, for the first time in my life.
Speaker 5: So I got to spend some time looking into figuring
Speaker 5: this out. I mean, it's a crisis. I've had periods
Speaker 5: in my life, like lots of parents, where I wasn't
Speaker 5: getting enough sleep, but that was just because I didn't have,
Speaker 5: you know, the opportunity to spend enough time in bed sleeping.
Speaker 3: It wasn't because I couldn't figure out how to sleep.
Speaker 5: Now I can get into bed and just like last night,
Speaker 5: I went to bed at I don't know when, it
Speaker 5: was nine o'clock. I laid there till at least two am.
Speaker 5: Last time, I left completely awake the whole time. Oh,
Speaker 5: no idea. I had no caffeine from ten am. I mean,
Speaker 5: I just and I have no idea where this has
Speaker 5: come from. And it's just happened kind of out of nowhere.
Speaker 5: It's driving me nuts. It's a horrible feeling. And then
Speaker 5: you obviously you got all the problems with being asleep.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at government statistics. This is from one of
Speaker 5: your national health organizations something or other. Nearly before we
Speaker 5: get to that, have you dealt with the guilt you
Speaker 5: have for having staged bum fights for all those years,
Speaker 5: still staging bum fights? The money, the money is great
Speaker 5: shame and it's shame. It's easier than ever to find crazy,
Speaker 5: violent drum bums. So oh that's a good point. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's really the golden era of staging bum fights.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: I could go outside the radio station right now and
Speaker 5: find two crazy, angry people who'd be happy to fight
Speaker 5: each other for a couple of bucks.
Speaker 3: He's not joking.
Speaker 7: I'm not joking.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm joking that I'm going to do that.
Speaker 5: I'm not joking that I can find two angry, violent
Speaker 5: people downstairs that would fight, or maybe over in the
Speaker 5: sales room.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: For of adults report falling asleep during the day without
Speaker 5: meaning to.
Speaker 3: At least once a month.
Speaker 5: Do you fall asleep during the day at least once
Speaker 5: a month Americans? I fall asleep driving way too often,
Speaker 5: always have. Really, Oh that's not a minor story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie's like, wait, wait, wait, what I.
Speaker 6: Know I've been hearing this for years you don't.
Speaker 3: You just try to slide that right by us.
Speaker 5: You don't fall asleep driving, No, I am octating a
Speaker 5: diet that way. Well, I don't want to. It's not
Speaker 5: like I think it's cool. I know, I know, Katie,
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say.
Speaker 5: You just well, a lot of Americans fall asleep during
Speaker 5: the day without meaning to, at least once a month,
Speaker 5: do you, Katie, No, I actually driving at your desk
Speaker 5: or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I simply can't do that. And I don't know we're
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 6: That would be that would be astonishing to me if
Speaker 6: that happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if I believe this number, but
Speaker 5: it is. It's a from the National Institute of Health's
Speaker 5: health not not that I believe they're statistics, but it's
Speaker 5: not most sleep statistics you hear.
Speaker 3: Oh and then look for this.
Speaker 5: Almost all sleep statistics you hear about pillows and sleep
Speaker 5: and whatever. You look at the bottom and it's paid
Speaker 5: for by a mattress company or a pillow company or whatever.
Speaker 7: That's crap.
Speaker 5: But this is from the National Institute's about That'd be
Speaker 5: a shocking number. If forty percent of adults fall asleep
Speaker 5: during the day unintentionally once a month.
Speaker 6: I mean, even when I had my desk job and
Speaker 6: I'd go and have a big lunch and I was
Speaker 6: on the west side of the building, Gladys, I tell you,
Speaker 6: I remember it so well, and the office would get
Speaker 6: so warm with the afternoon sun shining on my office,
Speaker 6: and I'd have a full belly and I closed the
Speaker 6: door like I was on an important call. You maybe
Speaker 6: I get shit ten minutes to show, but that's all
Speaker 6: that was entirely on purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do
Speaker 6: that regularly in the car or sitting in a chair
Speaker 6: or wherever. Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think falling asleep on accident is like NARCOLEPSI, isn't it.
Speaker 3: You just kind of start nodding off. So it's a
Speaker 3: sign for sure.
Speaker 7: I sometimes fall asleep during the hour three of our
Speaker 7: show a second segment.
Speaker 5: Wow, that was way out of line. I'll tell you
Speaker 5: what it is before I give the percentage. We've been
Speaker 5: trying to do this for years because if you give
Speaker 5: the percentage first, by the time you get to the
Speaker 5: what it was.
Speaker 3: Nobody remembers the percentage exactly.
Speaker 5: This is the percentage of adults who had trouble falling
Speaker 5: asleep most days or every day in the last month.
Speaker 5: That would be me fourteen and a half percent, which
Speaker 5: pretty big chunk, having trouble falling asleep almost every day
Speaker 5: I have my whole life, So I just think that's
Speaker 5: the way I built pretty much. But not like lay
Speaker 5: there for hours like has just hit me recently for
Speaker 5: some reason, it increases. And this is where I thought
Speaker 5: it was particularly interesting, and this is from the CDC.
Speaker 5: The percentage of people who have trouble falling asleep goes
Speaker 5: up as your education goes down, as your family income
Speaker 5: goes down, and as you become more rural, which is
Speaker 5: surprising to me really.
Speaker 6: Yeah, lower income rural people have more sleep problems than
Speaker 6: hard driving urban nites. Yeah, this is that counter into it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I agree, But that's the dark of the country night.
Speaker 6: You got the crickets at chirp and you just had
Speaker 6: you know, you got flapjacks.
Speaker 3: What's those John Denver song? I don't know what is
Speaker 3: the John Denver song?
Speaker 6: You know with the the thank God I'm a country boy. Oh,
Speaker 6: I got me and my pipe. I got me Old Phil.
Speaker 6: When the sun's coming up, I got cakes on the griddle.
Speaker 6: Sound not fall asleep with the lifestyle.
Speaker 9: I wonder if they have more trouble falling asleep because
Speaker 9: they're not as busy throughout the day. Maybe like the
Speaker 9: slower lifestyle, they're not so go, go go.
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, I don't know. I have no
Speaker 3: idea what that is.
Speaker 5: But then they're the they're the uh statistics on staying asleep,
Speaker 5: which is a whole nother thing too, which I and
Speaker 5: I know lots of people have you fall asleep, but
Speaker 5: then you wake up at one of them morning or
Speaker 5: do in the morning for some unknown reason, and you
Speaker 5: lay there for a while, which I hate.
Speaker 3: I just hate that. Phelly, It's just the worst.
Speaker 5: Uh. And then you know, you keep looking at the
Speaker 5: clock and it gets closer to when you got to
Speaker 5: get up, and you're still tired.
Speaker 7: I hate it. But breaking it.
Speaker 5: Down again, so education, income goes down, the likelihood that
Speaker 5: you're not gonna be able to sleep goes up. A
Speaker 5: greater percentage of white adults had trouble staying asleep every
Speaker 5: day in the last month, then Hispanic, Black, or Asian.
Speaker 3: Any idea why that is? My white guilt keeps me up?
Speaker 6: I know, yep, yes, yeah, Robin DiAngelo really talks some
Speaker 6: sense to me, and now I can't go to sleep
Speaker 6: at night knowing that my ancestors one hundred and seventy
Speaker 6: five years ago did bad stuff.
Speaker 5: The crowd that has the least trouble, it would look
Speaker 5: like from the statistics, is urban educated Asian people. Almost
Speaker 5: nobody has trouble sleeping, getting to sleep or staying asleep.
Speaker 3: Wow, why that is? I have no idea. Tiger moms
Speaker 3: their heads hit the pillow and they're out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you have any guess as to why that
Speaker 5: is with the.
Speaker 3: Because in my mind, you go up in income and.
Speaker 5: Education and people are like, go go drinking coffee, high pressure.
Speaker 3: But that's not doesn't fit in with the statistics.
Speaker 6: Okay, here's your hillbilly elegy analysis. We are heavily weighted
Speaker 6: in semi ru to rural America with the former manufacturing
Speaker 6: job on disability, drinking too much, taking drugs, smoking cigarettes.
Speaker 6: Crowd and their lifestyles just aren't conducive to get in sleep.
Speaker 6: They're obese, they don't get enough exercise.
Speaker 3: That is weighted.
Speaker 5: The statistic is that the typical rural lifestyle at this point,
Speaker 5: that's not mean to experience.
Speaker 3: But is that overwhelmed the statistics.
Speaker 6: Now, well, yeah, that's I chose my words carefully as always.
Speaker 6: I think that has weighted those statistics in that direction.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's typical or not, but there
Speaker 6: are a hell of a lot of people who do
Speaker 6: live like that.
Speaker 5: If you have less than a high school diploma, one
Speaker 5: in six haven't been able to get to sleep most
Speaker 5: days in the last thirty days.
Speaker 3: So education going down? Is that the stress of how
Speaker 3: do I make a living?
Speaker 5: Or do you think that's because we've always like the
Speaker 5: statistic to make this point of what is the statistic
Speaker 5: we like two.
Speaker 3: Out of three? That's my favorite. People who.
Speaker 5: People who divorce, who get divorced are more likely to smoke,
Speaker 5: or it's the other way around. People who smoke are
Speaker 5: more likely to get divorced. Smoking doesn't cause divorce or
Speaker 5: vice versa, but there's a lifestyle that goes with smoking generally,
Speaker 5: and so.
Speaker 3: That way you have landing at life.
Speaker 5: So what I'm wondering about the uh, the less than
Speaker 5: a high school diploma, are you more likely to like
Speaker 5: drink red bulls until ten o'clock at night and then
Speaker 5: try to get to sleep.
Speaker 7: Then if you have a college education.
Speaker 3: I don't know that. Yeah, that's I think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've led us to the promised Land, and well done,
Speaker 6: I say, I think if you looked at a list
Speaker 6: of say four or five.
Speaker 3: Or six I don't study this stuff.
Speaker 6: I don't know quote unquote sleep disruptive habits or activities.
Speaker 3: I think they would be more heavily on the lower
Speaker 3: income end. But I don't know.
Speaker 5: Scratchers. The scratchers keep you awake trying to figure out
Speaker 5: if you have matched three numbers. Don't know, bondo on
Speaker 5: your car. I don't know. I don't know if you've
Speaker 5: got any idea why as education goes down, sleep problems
Speaker 5: go up. Now I am a college graduate in a
Speaker 5: suburban area.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I shouldn't be having to I don't know what the problem.
Speaker 5: I do drink Red Bull all day long. No, I
Speaker 5: actually can't drink that stuff. I don't know how anybody does.
Speaker 5: My son and all his friends do.
Speaker 3: They love it, and it's horrible. It's horrible. I limit
Speaker 3: him with disgusting.
Speaker 5: But and I don't I don't know. I might actually
Speaker 5: have to see a doctor about this. At this point,
Speaker 5: it's become a crisis. It's a crisis in my life,
Speaker 5: and I dread over the last several weeks, I dread going.
Speaker 3: To bed even though I'm exhausted, just oh god, I
Speaker 3: can't just lay there. And then of course that adds
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 5: It's like when you're worried about if you're worried about
Speaker 5: your blood pressure blood pressure checked?
Speaker 3: Oh, tell me about it? Yeah, no kidding. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Somebody suggested the three ms magnesium, melatonin, and masturbation.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, wow, night after night to get and stay asleep. Exercise,
Speaker 3: physical exercise. Clearly, I get, I get exercise.
Speaker 7: I'm not doing anything different. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 5: None, no changes in my life, just all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: can't sleep at all, like hardly age man age.
Speaker 3: I wonder if the bang bangs are getting to you? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: The double meal eating For those not familiar with the term.
Speaker 9: I don't sleep great when I eat like crap sometimes,
Speaker 9: so maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: Stop going to Wienersnitzel. He does eat like a bear.
Speaker 6: Having discovered an unlocked door to Lake Tahoe cabin.
Speaker 5: What did I have for dinner last night? Let's just
Speaker 5: use like a random meal like last night. This is
Speaker 5: science last night for dinner, quarter pounder with cheese and
Speaker 5: a mcflury. So there's nothing to Katie's theory whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Clearly, I'm just making it up.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, who eats like that?
Speaker 1: Jack, Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The
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Speaker 3: This is pleasant and delightful.
Speaker 6: A bread making craze has begun in my extended family.
Speaker 5: Oh cool, Yeah, I remember during the pandemic when people
Speaker 5: started doing that, and so yeah, oddly.
Speaker 6: Enough, it began with a relative who has some sensory issues. Jack,
Speaker 6: something you know about. I'm going to keep things vague
Speaker 6: to protect the innocent, but say it was my uncle Morty,
Speaker 6: and we would make reference to Morty bread and how
Speaker 6: good it was, and Morty when he would come for
Speaker 6: a visit would always leave a loaf. And when I
Speaker 6: was through with Morty bread, I was very, very sad
Speaker 6: because it was so good.
Speaker 3: Before I leave work today, oh god, Jesus boy, you
Speaker 3: know Jack, you know what Katie? I just do you
Speaker 3: want to go off and do our own thing? Could we?
Speaker 7: Would you take?
Speaker 3: We wouldn't ever. Yeah, Michael, you're higher and here you
Speaker 3: can watch Jack.
Speaker 6: We're out of here, you can you guess it is
Speaker 6: going to be like and this, this is this happened
Speaker 6: to me at least once in my youth. It was
Speaker 6: explained to me, Hey, the band just got a break up.
Speaker 6: We just we can't do this and it's too much
Speaker 6: trouble to do that. And so we're breaking up. And
Speaker 6: then a week later here, yeah, they're playing he just
Speaker 6: got a different dude playing your instrument.
Speaker 7: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: Yeah, wow, So that's what we're doing to Jack right now. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we I'm really not gonna do it radio anymore.
Speaker 5: That's like the they break up with you because I
Speaker 5: just I just don't think I should be in a
Speaker 5: relationship right now. And then you see him walking down
Speaker 5: the street holding hands with somebody next weekend.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm going into bread making. You guys have fun.
Speaker 7: Okay, the bread making, I am.
Speaker 5: That's something I would like to actually learn how to
Speaker 5: do one because I love homemade bread and it just
Speaker 5: seems like could be a cool craft.
Speaker 6: And I pronounced, having enjoyed some Morti bread and then
Speaker 6: switched back to the regular stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's just so much better.
Speaker 6: And so Judy got a new mixer because our old
Speaker 6: mixer's motor was kind of funky. And so now she's
Speaker 6: got this big, like industry looking mixer. And she made
Speaker 6: a couple of loafs of what's known as the Morty bread.
Speaker 6: And my lost student daughter made herself some bread, although
Speaker 6: one of her two cats stepped on the bread as
Speaker 6: it was proofing, which I guess means rising or something. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and so one of the loaves is robust and very
Speaker 6: healthy looking, and the other loaf is really just excuse me.
Speaker 3: Loaf, because I can't ruined it. Damn cats.
Speaker 5: The cat stepped on the bread. But you're gonna go
Speaker 5: ahead and make it anyway, doesn't that mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you put it in the oven at
Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty degrees for a half an hour
Speaker 6: or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: It's fine. I don't know that I want letter box bread. Yeah.
Speaker 5: This tastes a little like whatever a cat walks through. Well, now,
Speaker 5: I will tell you this.
Speaker 6: Having baby sat my daughter's cats for three weeks over Christmas,
Speaker 6: she does occasionally get ready to bleeper. She does occasionally
Speaker 6: refer to their mittens because they you know, they pooh out,
Speaker 6: they poo in the box, then they walk out of
Speaker 6: the box.
Speaker 5: Sure, that's see, that's not a tasty term.
Speaker 3: I don't like.
Speaker 6: They dip their paws and some paus and some sort
Speaker 6: of disinfectant on their way out. Must clean the paws
Speaker 6: after one poos. You know, No, they don't do that.
Speaker 6: That's a great term. It is, and discuss we've got cats.
Speaker 5: And Michael, we're going to use that term patting around
Speaker 5: mittens all over your house.
Speaker 3: I'm going to start calling people mittens. This is great.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, this is many charming folks. I apologize.
Speaker 3: I work at this guy and working with told me
Speaker 3: the other.
Speaker 5: Day, but a bunch of mittens around here?
Speaker 3: Why do I put up with it?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: Anyway? Where was I? Oh?
Speaker 6: I was going to talk about the various things that
Speaker 6: are so far superior in their homemade version, right, but
Speaker 6: we've kind of drifted so far away from it.
Speaker 3: Like I brewed beer for a while. My brother brewis
Speaker 3: beer and it's so good.
Speaker 6: He's actually got the cooler with two taps, and anytime
Speaker 6: we visit his house he has home brewed beer in
Speaker 6: kegs on tap.
Speaker 3: Wow, icy cold on his patio. It's ridiculous. Oh, it's so.
Speaker 6: Although if I lived like that, I would be a
Speaker 6: flaming alcoholic in three hundred and seventy five pounds. What
Speaker 6: if there's a downside, But I'd be happy, and I
Speaker 6: wouldn't be thinking about my problems, and people would be
Speaker 6: more interesting.
Speaker 3: But bread might be at the top of the list.
Speaker 3: Beer is close.
Speaker 6: I say cookies, and I'm a bit of a purist,
Speaker 6: maybe a bit of a pain in the ass. I
Speaker 6: know that's hard to imagine. Uh, I will not eat
Speaker 6: store bought cookies. I just I won't because the calories
Speaker 6: and the taste. No.
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh those cookies that I sent you guys, the
Speaker 9: picture of of her break that I made.
Speaker 3: Oh, they were so homemade. Is it's it's it's just
Speaker 3: it's like sex, It's so good.
Speaker 5: I grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade butter,
Speaker 5: and homemade butter is just so much better than what
Speaker 5: he did in the store. It's like a different thing
Speaker 5: you each, brother, I wouldn't know if you put homemade,
Speaker 5: and I had forgotten how good it was. So this
Speaker 5: field trip my son went on to a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago, they churned buttered. They I spent more time
Speaker 5: churning than the kids did. But as I was one
Speaker 5: of the chaperones. But I churned up the exactly their
Speaker 5: weedy little arms. I turned up the butter, and I'd
Speaker 5: forgotten how good it is. You put homemade butter on
Speaker 5: homemade bread and you have a flip and treat right there.
Speaker 3: That sounds wonderful. I'm guessing.
Speaker 9: Oh no, I'm just I'm in the process of trying
Speaker 9: to make sour doughver because that's my favorite, oh of life,
Speaker 9: and I haven't.
Speaker 3: I haven't gotten it down yet because it's complicated.
Speaker 6: But we missed the whole getting a starter going during
Speaker 6: COVID thing.
Speaker 3: I wish we had.
Speaker 6: But yeah, Jack, I'm sure there are semi overpriced like
Speaker 6: electric butter turns you can get from you know, sharper
Speaker 6: imature whatever.
Speaker 5: We did it the old timey away with a look
Speaker 5: like the thing you've seen in old timey movies with
Speaker 5: a stick in a cylinder with a hole on the top.
Speaker 5: It kind of looks a little sexual. But I mean,
Speaker 5: you're you're doing this thing.
Speaker 3: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Speaker 7: But yeah, homemade butter, that's what you got to add.
Speaker 7: You have homemade bread with homemade butter.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'm looking at how to make homemade butter.
Speaker 3: It doesn't look that difficult. It's not hard at all.
Speaker 3: I'm going to try it today. Do it, yeah, and
Speaker 3: then report back. Oh so good.
Speaker 5: Get me a tub, not that sort of stuff to
Speaker 5: get and sell over there at the store.
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