WEBVTT - Ashley Johnson Meets World 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.760 Indy is doing It's been a crazy week because he's 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:29.120 doing two different plays, two different musicals, and uh he's 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.240 actually he's been working as a voice over actor too. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:32.120 He's doing a cartoon. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.360 So this week he was working on his cartoon. And 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:40.120 he had his show Matilda this weekend, which was amazing, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.400 so fun. Oh my god, I've seen it. So it's 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.040 the new Matilda. You know, theyll Tim mentioned, who's an 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:52.680 amazing songwriter comedian, wrote the Matilda musical that came out 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.320 and now there's there's a Netflix movie which is wonderful. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.320 So it's that version of Matilda. And Indy played. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.240 Bruce, who's the kid has to eat the cake, and 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.280 he just killed it. It was so fun, like because 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.720 there's this moment where like once uh miss trunch Bull 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.320 gets kicked off stage, you know, like they get the 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.800 revenge on the teacher, and he just stands up and 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.440 sings like this run like. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.000 And like the audience was just like what just happened? 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.600 Yeah, And he's got a really good singing voice. It's 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.800 it's it's kind of it's amazing. Yeah, and but he 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.280 you know, of course he's so nervous. He's anxious and 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:30.920 stressed out. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:31.800 He's an actor. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:39.039 Yeah, yeah, that's the second play, The Descendants, singing like 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:40.160 two different companies. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:41.800 Is that how he has to going at the same time? 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.080 Okay, yeah, man, but you know he loves I mean, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:45.920 he loves it. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.880 But yeah, I feel like we're gonna take the summer 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.400 off from plays and just sort of be like, are 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:52.120 you still into this? 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:53.280 Like what what do you want to do? 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:53.560 Man? 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.440 Like, you know, it's a lot, Like he's got a 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.160 lot of scripts to be reading and songs to be rehearsing. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.960 And but you know, I think, like last like, he 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.000 did the show the last two nights, and I think 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:05.800 it gave him the high. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.680 So he's like, oh, this is I just want to 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.000 do it again. Yeah, never goes away. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.480 It's weird, man, having a like trying to relate to 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.760 him and like, you know, support him, but also not 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.520 pressure him, you know. And of course I have all 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.760 my own stuff about this. I mean I feel like 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:29.840 doing being being a theater parent or an actor parent 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.160 in the midst of doing. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.760 This podcast is truly weird, you know, because. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.880 I feel like I'm coming to terms how much fun 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.840 you had when you were his age on I know, 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.160 I know, because it was you loved it, right. 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.640 And what I have to remember it too, and like, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.360 you know, the reason I fell in love with acting 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.919 was because I did theater and I loved that process. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.480 Like I you know, what I ended up not liking 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.360 is what being an actor actually is, like, which is 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.000 the audition process and like the lifestyle of like that 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.400 is being an actor and I just don't have the 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.680 stomach for that or the skin. I guess that I 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.600 don't have to take enough skin for that. But what 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.080 he's doing, like getting in a group and everybody nervous 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.440 before the show and putting to get that was the best. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.640 And really that's what boy Meet's world was too. We 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.519 were doing a play every week, and like that was 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.720 the exciting part that was so fulfilling. It was all 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.959 the fame and all the other stuff that really bummed down. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.280 What did your mom think? Your mom came down, What 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:25.000 did your mom think? 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:25.359 Oh? 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.480 She you know, she just loves him, of course, and 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.520 yeah he does is magical and sparacul and it's true. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.320 Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I was. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.160 I was talking to her about like, you know, we 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.280 were driving him to his play. You know, he had 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.560 to be there a couple hours ahead of time. Meanwhile, well, 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.960 first he had three hour rehearsal for The Descendants, then 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.760 the show that Matilda, and I was like, I turned 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.280 to my mom. I was like, you were driving me 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.360 to San Francisco six days a week when I was 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.840 ten to do they Miss and I was doing eight shows. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.160 And she's like yeah, I'm like that's crazy. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.960 He's like yeah, I'm like that is just I'm like, 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.240 I'm so stressed up and he's got two shows this 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.080 weekend and our whole life is all about that. And 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.000 she's like, yeah, so yeah, that was my Like it 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.440 disrupted our entire lives. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.080 I'm like, that's insane. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:12.560 I remember my mom used to have to drive. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:13.480 Oh my god. 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.840 I would want to stay for curtain Call because it's 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.000 a three hour show. So I would be wrapping at 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:20.920 ten thirty a night or eleven o'clock a night, and 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:22.280 she would have to be driving an hour and a 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.560 half back to Sebastball from San Francisco. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.440 And she talks about how she would suck on ice. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.440 Cubes to stay away, So like crazy, just for your 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.000 kid to be in a play, Like. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.239 Yeah, what would you do for your kid to be happy? 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.960 You do anything everything. Yeah no, that's yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.720 No, it's a lot though. I mean I actually would 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.800 have a hard time if like if Indy was doing 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.960 eight shows a week, I'd be like, is this really 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:48.320 worth it? 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:49.600 Are you really going to do this? Kid? 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:50.760 Like is this what you want to? 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:51.000 You know? 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.680 But for my mom, like she gave up everything to 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.760 give you everything's. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:57.599 And she had two of you. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.039 I know you were both doing it. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:04:59.320 I know. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.600 I mean that's the thing. You're you're taking what you've 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.400 done and doubling it. It's it's crazy, but that's what 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:04.880 it's like. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.600 But that's what I remember is that like the kids 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.360 who didn't work as kid actors were the ones whose 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.360 parents had, you know, stuff to do, Like they can't. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:14.080 Give up everything. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.400 One of the exceptions because my parents could not give 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:17.880 up anything, and I was working all the time. 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.040 And that's why they drive me to that's. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.520 Why you were Yeah, it just said to go out 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:24.280 and take the bus out. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:25.919 They're like, if you want to do this, you know 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.640 you're we can't. We can't physically can't quit our jobs. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.200 Like we can't quit our jobs, right, So, as you know, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.880 my dad had his own private practice. My mom was 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.479 running all three courts in Connecticut. It's like, we can't quit. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.000 So yeah, this is just And eventually we got to 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.880 the point where we hired a guy named Bud Bauer. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.599 He was an eighty two year old uh ex World 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.479 War Two fighter pilot who would drive my dad's car 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:50.920 with me in the back down of the city. Is 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.120 the coolest guy, told the best stories ever. And he 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.200 would drive me down while just telling me stories about 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.599 like breaking off from formation uh while they were in 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:03.080 a training exercise to buzz his girlfriend's house with his play. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.159 I mean, he would just yeah, he was the greatest 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.000 guy in the world. So yeah, eventually we had to 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:09.480 get somebody because it is it takes. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:09.840 Up your whole. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:11.360 Yeah. Yeah, Well you were in. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.400 Oc right, Danielle, So you also had a. 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.320 Well, we were in Orange County when I first started 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.280 when I was ten, but by the time I started 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.479 on Boy Meets World, we had moved to Calabasas, which was, 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.400 you know, still far but at least closer than Orange County. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.320 But yeah, we used to make that drive from Orange 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.960 County to LA for you know, auditions and sitting in 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.840 traffic and be doing my homework in the back seat 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.800 or falling asleep. My mom would ask me to fall 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.760 asleep with my head high enough so that she could 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.560 still be in the carpoolane without being worried that a 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.280 cop wouldn't see me. She'd be like, Danielle, you need 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:44.800 to sit up a little higher. I need them to 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:45.800 know I'm allowed to be in this. 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:46.640 Car pool lane. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.440 But yeah, I mean, and the only reason I was 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:50.720 able to do it is because my mom was a 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.000 stay at home mom, and so she didn't have a 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.280 job that she was giving up. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.880 She had she had working at home that she had 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:58.360 to give up. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:06:59.320 But no, my mom quit. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.719 I mean, she was a she was a nutritionist teacher, 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.279 and she just quit her whole career to dedicate it 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:04.960 to me and my brother. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.039 Two actors, two of you. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:11.280 We love you, mom so much, appreciation and. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:13.400 Power. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:15.960 Welcome to Vaudmeet's world. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.800 I'm Daniel Vishel, I'm rather strong, and I'm Wilfrede. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.440 We like to talk about how busy we were as 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.400 child actors in the nineties, having a job before our 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.440 teen years, still going to school every day while having to. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.160 Learn pages and pages of. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:46.240 Dialogue, smoldering our very own grappling hooks and constantly blurring 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:51.040 the line between kid and adult week after week. Dealing 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.280 with these issues was hard enough, but what if we 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:58.000 did it for fifteen years consistently, over and over and 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.760 over again. Well, this week's guest and her jam packed 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.800 IMDb page knows exactly what that feels like. Because there 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:11.680 were kid actors and then there were kid actors. She 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.320 first burst onto the scene as Chrissy Seaver from the 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:18.000 legendary sitcom Growing Pains, which honestly would have been enough, 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.720 wrap it up, call it today, start a rewatch podcast 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.320 thirty years later, But no, that was just the beginning. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.320 She would star in eight television shows by the age 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.520 of twenty one, a statistic that seems almost made up. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.160 She'd voice characters on animated projects like Recess, King of 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.000 the Hill, and Teen Titans. She'd appear in movies like 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.640 Nine Months, The Help, and The Avengers. She'd show up 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.640 on TV shows like Er, Blind Spot, and Last of Us, 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.680 and to many people's surprise, she was part of the 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.480 extended Boy Meets World universe. And still through all this, 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.720 she'd somehow find time to co create a revolutionary media 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.800 company from just a casual D and D weekly hangout 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.160 and now she's looking back on it all in the 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.720 form of a new podcast, Weird Kids, a show she 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.480 co hosts all about her journey as a child actor 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.920 now as a grown adult in a business that is, 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.760 for the most part, truly unbelievable. So let's welcome to 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.520 pod meets World the very busy Ashley Johnson. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:29.720 Hello, high pals. So great to see you, us grow, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:30.360 so fun. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.360 Us grown kid actors who now analyze our experience through 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.440 the medium of podcasts have to stick together. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:37.680 Yes we do. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.200 Oh my god, it's so great to see you. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:49.680 I analyzing our trauma together. Yes, just a simple unpacking, 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:50.079 which is. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.920 Always a light dusting of some unpacking. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:10:01.400 Yes, just a little like light of trauma trauma. 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.160 I know most people expect me to start with some 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.040 growing pains talk, but I want to ask about your 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.480 first job. At seven years old. You co starred in 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:20.160 the movie Lionheart Van Day. Did I have to imagine 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.640 there were some great stories from it. What was Van 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.360 Damn like through the pov of a seven year old? 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:32.360 Oh my god, yeah, I remember. I mean I was 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.320 so young, but the memories that I have from it 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:42.680 were great. Yeah, I mean I remember. I mean it's ultimate, 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.720 it's the great movie. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.080 He's getting to get your bike. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.280 Rewatch, Let's do an episode that. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.840 Yeah, please buy that little girl a bike. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.640 I mean, yes, you might know it a little better 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:03.360 than I do. Yes, there is a bike involved. I 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.720 I remember I had so much fun that was shooting. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.920 At the time, I was still living in Michigan and 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.800 we had come out for I think with that job. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.199 We had come out to visit some family friends and 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.440 their kid was auditioning for that part. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.480 Those are the best stories ever, I. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:28.440 Know, I know, and we had gone and the I 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.079 believe this was Lionheart. It was either Lion Hard or 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:37.120 Growing Pains, and we I went in. The casting director 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.760 was like, hey, do you want to audition for this? 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.520 And then I did, and then I got it. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:47.480 Your family friends were like, we are They're very cool, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:48.000 very cool. 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.760 Yeah, just you know, it's and it's also like it 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:57.080 was kind of like learning early on that you just 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.880 don't know who's going to be right for what part, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.040 just like it's a it's a crap shoot. It's a 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.000 crap shoot. Yes, so yeah, but I remember I had 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.920 so much fun, and I remember I had like I 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.720 think I had a little bit of a crush on 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:16.120 Jean Claude. Did it just because like he had like 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:21.359 this this secent, you know, he was like he was beautiful, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.800 he was a ballerina. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.160 Yeah, I had a crush on my I had a 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.199 crush on my principal when I was in elementary school 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:30.880 and he wasn't beautiful or a ballerina. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.840 So it isn't just funny when you go back and 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.680 you look at the pictures and you're like, holy, yeah, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.240 I had a crush. So this is funny because last 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.199 night when I was I was preparing and looking at 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.960 you guys again, and I was like, I remember I 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:53.240 had such a crush on writer, because everybody did at 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.439 that time, and it was so funny. And I looked 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.600 back at some of the older pictures and I feel 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.440 like we all shot on the same lot. Am I 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.120 making that up? Yeah? We did? 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:01.440 Right? 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:02.240 Yeah, I'm sure. 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.280 Well yeah, well so you did. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:10.760 Maybe this time was my brother? So my brother was 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:15.240 working with you, Like, yes, he was in the pilot 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.520 in the first couple episodes. I don't know whatever he 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.080 ended up not being on the show as a regular, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.040 but he was in the pilot. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:21.840 I think of maybe this time with you he. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:22.360 Was so great. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.000 Yeah, yeah, he was great. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.760 He also worked with your sister at some point. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.200 My sister and I actually might have called her before this, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.960 but I didn't get a hold of her. She played 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:39.440 I believe she played your girlfriend writer on an episode. Okay, okay, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:44.400 Hailey Johnson, Yeah she was under your she was she 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.080 was somebody's girlfriend. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:47.360 What episode she was? 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.160 I don't think it was mine. I must have been yours. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.240 I don't think it was yours. Okay. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.600 So actually then we probably knew Haley first, and then 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:59.520 you were like Hailey's sister, who also Yes, that's so funny. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.800 Because both of your siblings are we're also child actors. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.040 So which one of you was the first to broach 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.720 the idea of acting? And how did your parents ever 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:12.360 juggle three different kids going to audition? 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.560 No? Can you can you even imagine that? 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.800 No, Like we're just talking about Writer's son is an 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:25.880 actor and and a voiceover actor, and like right crazy, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:26.320 We were. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.400 Like, how do you how your entire life is up 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:29.600 ended for one kid? 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:30.720 I got alone? 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:36.320 Three? Let alone three? I you know, it's my My 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.680 brother ended up going more behind the camera as time 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.720 went on, and so it was just my my sister 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:48.080 and I for the most part, okay, but I just 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.720 I remember it just worked. I don't think we were 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:56.080 working at the same time like my sister did. She 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.479 did Kids Incorporated. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:04.720 Yeah, d yes, yes, we made did yes, so she did, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.920 she did that, And I remember we would never be 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.240 working at the same time. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.320 I don't know how it ended up working that way, right. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.480 At this point or have you moved out here? 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.880 We went back and forth a lot, but then we 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.760 finally moved out here when it was just kind of like, Okay, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.960 I guess this is something that we're all going to 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:31.200 continue to do and we enjoy. And my parents were 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.120 super cool about it. It was like I don't have 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.480 one of those stories of like I was forced into 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.160 it and I hated it from the beginning, Like I 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.960 always liked it, but I didn't start to love it 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:45.400 until later. But yeah, for parents, I mean, thinking back 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.880 on just going to auditions as a kid, like that 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.040 was so strange, such a strange experience. It was such 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.760 a strange world. And it's so fun talking to other 0:15:54.560 --> 0:16:00.520 kid actors because there's it's such a weird it's it's 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.200 a weird experience. Yeah, it's also right, I'm glad I 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:04.800 had it. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.240 It's a gone experience too, though, because the industry has 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.040 changed so much, very much, that that sitting in a 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.320 room with twenty other kids that you're going to then 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.080 grow up with in a certain way. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.360 Right, social Security numbers down on a piece of paper 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:18.360 for me to read. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.840 Why did they don't you remember more than the actual audition. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.800 The room was where you saw the other kids. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.880 It got a sense. It was those rooms like the 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:28.680 waiting rooms that. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.880 You pilotas, and it would be winting down. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.720 It would start with fifteen of you in a room 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.600 and then by the end there's like the four left 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.240 that didn't get a pilot that season. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.000 Yes, it was just it was crazy. It was such 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.160 and it's a world that's gone now it's gone. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.200 Yeah, it's gone. My I mean you probably have this 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.960 experience writer with your kid now, Like my, A lot 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.200 of my nieces and nephews have started to get into it. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.400 And I think in the beginning I was like, I 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.280 don't know, I don't know. Guys like not that I 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.360 had a bad experience, but you are exposed to people, 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.360 do it, you know? Yes? 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.600 Yeah, the fact that means we were lucky, not that 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.719 it's yeah, we were lucky. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.880 Yeah, we were lucky. We were lucky. Yeah, And I think, yeah, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.520 they're getting into it, and it's such a different experience now, 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.119 Like some of them have worked on some jobs and 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.280 they're like, it's so cool, it's so fun, and I'm 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.920 like it is and I feel like just this old 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.399 crone in the corner and I'm like, well, I'll be careful, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:33.359 don't don't take anything from anybody. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:34.080 Yeah. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.840 Also, I will say, like we've talked about it a 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:38.760 little bit too, as a director on a lot of 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:43.840 these newer kid shows, the pressure is significantly less than it. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.440 Used to be for us. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.320 Yea, yes, I would agree with you. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.879 So, well, that's a different type of a different type 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.560 of pressure for sure. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.680 But like the actual on. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:18:00.399 Set experience for for kids now is a lot more. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.280 This should be fun, we should be enjoying it. We 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.040 need to protect each other. We if something's not working, 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.000 it's not your fault, will change it. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:11.120 Let us suggest it. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.440 Those conversations are happening among the adults, not involving the kids. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.800 The ability to like the amount of pressure the adults 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.439 put on themselves to make sure all their parents and 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.399 all the kids are away before any note is given 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.879 about a performance thing, and then it's like it's just 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.240 a totally different world. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.600 Totally kids, right, And we were already in a better 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:33.200 world than. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.800 Was for like characters, that's right. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.400 Oh yeah, I mean we already were like, oh, we 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.040 have limited hours, we have studio teachers. 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.919 I mean you think about like you know, Judy Garland 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:44.600 day is like it was. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.920 Exactly a disaster, right, And then like the seventies, even 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.680 like if you were a kid on a TV show, 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.960 you were just expected to be just like the adult 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.840 and everything that was kid like Mari was an annoyance. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:56.760 By the time we were there, there was like, okay, 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.720 we have some sort of and I think you're right. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.880 Nowadays there's like a real standing like this a fragile do. 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:03.440 You know the dog This is not a joke. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.720 The dog that played Toto made more money than Judy 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.000 Garland when they were. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:14.720 Doing chicken broth, right, she was literally put on a diet. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.000 They were like, you can only have cigarettes and chicken. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.400 Broth to with amphetamines, and that the dog made more 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:20.479 money than Judy Garland did. 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.720 That's crazy to know that. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.000 Yeah, so it's it. 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:30.760 Is all right, We're doing okay, y'all, that's what we're 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:31.480 comparing it to. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:32.240