1 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Indy is doing It's been a crazy week because he's 2 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: doing two different plays, two different musicals, and uh he's 3 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: actually he's been working as a voice over actor too. 4 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: He's doing a cartoon. 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: So this week he was working on his cartoon. And 6 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: he had his show Matilda this weekend, which was amazing, 7 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: so fun. Oh my god, I've seen it. So it's 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: the new Matilda. You know, theyll Tim mentioned, who's an 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: amazing songwriter comedian, wrote the Matilda musical that came out 10 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: and now there's there's a Netflix movie which is wonderful. 11 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: So it's that version of Matilda. And Indy played. 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Bruce, who's the kid has to eat the cake, and 13 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: he just killed it. It was so fun, like because 14 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: there's this moment where like once uh miss trunch Bull 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: gets kicked off stage, you know, like they get the 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: revenge on the teacher, and he just stands up and 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: sings like this run like. 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: And like the audience was just like what just happened? 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's got a really good singing voice. It's 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of it's amazing. Yeah, and but he 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, of course he's so nervous. He's anxious and 22 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: stressed out. 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: He's an actor. 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's the second play, The Descendants, singing like 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: two different companies. 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 5: Is that how he has to going at the same time? 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, man, but you know he loves I mean, 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: he loves it. 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like we're gonna take the summer 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: off from plays and just sort of be like, are 31 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: you still into this? 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Like what what do you want to do? 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 4: Man? 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Like, you know, it's a lot, Like he's got a 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: lot of scripts to be reading and songs to be rehearsing. 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: And but you know, I think, like last like, he 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: did the show the last two nights, and I think 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: it gave him the high. 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: So he's like, oh, this is I just want to 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: do it again. Yeah, never goes away. 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: It's weird, man, having a like trying to relate to 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: him and like, you know, support him, but also not 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: pressure him, you know. And of course I have all 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: my own stuff about this. I mean I feel like 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: doing being being a theater parent or an actor parent 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: in the midst of doing. 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: This podcast is truly weird, you know, because. 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm coming to terms how much fun 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: you had when you were his age on I know, 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: I know, because it was you loved it, right. 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: And what I have to remember it too, and like, 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, the reason I fell in love with acting 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: was because I did theater and I loved that process. 54 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Like I you know, what I ended up not liking 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: is what being an actor actually is, like, which is 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: the audition process and like the lifestyle of like that 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: is being an actor and I just don't have the 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: stomach for that or the skin. I guess that I 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: don't have to take enough skin for that. But what 60 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: he's doing, like getting in a group and everybody nervous 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: before the show and putting to get that was the best. 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: And really that's what boy Meet's world was too. We 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: were doing a play every week, and like that was 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: the exciting part that was so fulfilling. It was all 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: the fame and all the other stuff that really bummed down. 66 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 5: What did your mom think? Your mom came down, What 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: did your mom think? 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 6: Oh? 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: She you know, she just loves him, of course, and 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: yeah he does is magical and sparacul and it's true. 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I was. 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: I was talking to her about like, you know, we 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: were driving him to his play. You know, he had 74 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: to be there a couple hours ahead of time. Meanwhile, well, 75 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: first he had three hour rehearsal for The Descendants, then 76 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: the show that Matilda, and I was like, I turned 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: to my mom. I was like, you were driving me 78 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: to San Francisco six days a week when I was 79 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: ten to do they Miss and I was doing eight shows. 80 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 7: And she's like yeah, I'm like that's crazy. 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: He's like yeah, I'm like that is just I'm like, 82 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm so stressed up and he's got two shows this 83 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: weekend and our whole life is all about that. And 84 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, so yeah, that was my Like it 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: disrupted our entire lives. 86 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 7: I'm like, that's insane. 87 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: I remember my mom used to have to drive. 88 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 7: Oh my god. 89 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: I would want to stay for curtain Call because it's 90 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: a three hour show. So I would be wrapping at 91 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: ten thirty a night or eleven o'clock a night, and 92 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: she would have to be driving an hour and a 93 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: half back to Sebastball from San Francisco. 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 7: And she talks about how she would suck on ice. 95 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Cubes to stay away, So like crazy, just for your 96 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: kid to be in a play, Like. 97 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, what would you do for your kid to be happy? 98 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: You do anything everything. Yeah no, that's yeah, yeah, yeah. 99 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: No, it's a lot though. I mean I actually would 100 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: have a hard time if like if Indy was doing 101 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: eight shows a week, I'd be like, is this really 102 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: worth it? 103 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 6: Are you really going to do this? Kid? 104 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Like is this what you want to? 105 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 6: You know? 106 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 7: But for my mom, like she gave up everything to 107 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 7: give you everything's. 108 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: And she had two of you. 109 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: I know you were both doing it. 110 00:04:59,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 8: I know. 111 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing. You're you're taking what you've 112 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: done and doubling it. It's it's crazy, but that's what 113 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: it's like. 114 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: But that's what I remember is that like the kids 115 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: who didn't work as kid actors were the ones whose 116 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: parents had, you know, stuff to do, Like they can't. 117 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 7: Give up everything. 118 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: One of the exceptions because my parents could not give 119 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: up anything, and I was working all the time. 120 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: And that's why they drive me to that's. 121 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: Why you were Yeah, it just said to go out 122 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: and take the bus out. 123 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 4: They're like, if you want to do this, you know 124 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: you're we can't. We can't physically can't quit our jobs. 125 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: Like we can't quit our jobs, right, So, as you know, 126 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: my dad had his own private practice. My mom was 127 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 4: running all three courts in Connecticut. It's like, we can't quit. 128 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, this is just And eventually we got to 129 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: the point where we hired a guy named Bud Bauer. 130 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 4: He was an eighty two year old uh ex World 131 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: War Two fighter pilot who would drive my dad's car 132 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: with me in the back down of the city. Is 133 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: the coolest guy, told the best stories ever. And he 134 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: would drive me down while just telling me stories about 135 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: like breaking off from formation uh while they were in 136 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: a training exercise to buzz his girlfriend's house with his play. 137 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: I mean, he would just yeah, he was the greatest 138 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: guy in the world. So yeah, eventually we had to 139 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: get somebody because it is it takes. 140 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: Up your whole. 141 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, Well you were in. 142 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: Oc right, Danielle, So you also had a. 143 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 9: Well, we were in Orange County when I first started 144 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 9: when I was ten, but by the time I started 145 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 9: on Boy Meets World, we had moved to Calabasas, which was, 146 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 9: you know, still far but at least closer than Orange County. 147 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 9: But yeah, we used to make that drive from Orange 148 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 9: County to LA for you know, auditions and sitting in 149 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 9: traffic and be doing my homework in the back seat 150 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 9: or falling asleep. My mom would ask me to fall 151 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 9: asleep with my head high enough so that she could 152 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 9: still be in the carpoolane without being worried that a 153 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 9: cop wouldn't see me. She'd be like, Danielle, you need 154 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 9: to sit up a little higher. I need them to 155 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 9: know I'm allowed to be in this. 156 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 6: Car pool lane. 157 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, and the only reason I was 158 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 9: able to do it is because my mom was a 159 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 9: stay at home mom, and so she didn't have a 160 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 9: job that she was giving up. 161 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: She had she had working at home that she had 162 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 5: to give up. 163 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: But no, my mom quit. 164 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: I mean, she was a she was a nutritionist teacher, 165 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: and she just quit her whole career to dedicate it 166 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: to me and my brother. 167 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 3: Two actors, two of you. 168 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: We love you, mom so much, appreciation and. 169 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 6: Power. 170 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 5: Welcome to Vaudmeet's world. 171 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: I'm Daniel Vishel, I'm rather strong, and I'm Wilfrede. 172 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 9: We like to talk about how busy we were as 173 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 9: child actors in the nineties, having a job before our 174 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 9: teen years, still going to school every day while having to. 175 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 5: Learn pages and pages of. 176 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 9: Dialogue, smoldering our very own grappling hooks and constantly blurring 177 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 9: the line between kid and adult week after week. Dealing 178 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 9: with these issues was hard enough, but what if we 179 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 9: did it for fifteen years consistently, over and over and 180 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 9: over again. Well, this week's guest and her jam packed 181 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 9: IMDb page knows exactly what that feels like. Because there 182 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 9: were kid actors and then there were kid actors. She 183 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 9: first burst onto the scene as Chrissy Seaver from the 184 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 9: legendary sitcom Growing Pains, which honestly would have been enough, 185 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 9: wrap it up, call it today, start a rewatch podcast 186 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 9: thirty years later, But no, that was just the beginning. 187 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 9: She would star in eight television shows by the age 188 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 9: of twenty one, a statistic that seems almost made up. 189 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 9: She'd voice characters on animated projects like Recess, King of 190 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 9: the Hill, and Teen Titans. She'd appear in movies like 191 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 9: Nine Months, The Help, and The Avengers. She'd show up 192 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 9: on TV shows like Er, Blind Spot, and Last of Us, 193 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 9: and to many people's surprise, she was part of the 194 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 9: extended Boy Meets World universe. And still through all this, 195 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 9: she'd somehow find time to co create a revolutionary media 196 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 9: company from just a casual D and D weekly hangout 197 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 9: and now she's looking back on it all in the 198 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 9: form of a new podcast, Weird Kids, a show she 199 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 9: co hosts all about her journey as a child actor 200 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 9: now as a grown adult in a business that is, 201 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 9: for the most part, truly unbelievable. So let's welcome to 202 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 9: pod meets World the very busy Ashley Johnson. 203 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 6: Hello, high pals. So great to see you, us grow, 204 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 6: so fun. 205 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 9: Us grown kid actors who now analyze our experience through 206 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 9: the medium of podcasts have to stick together. 207 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 6: Yes we do. 208 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's so great to see you. 209 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 6: I analyzing our trauma together. Yes, just a simple unpacking, 210 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 6: which is. 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 5: Always a light dusting of some unpacking. 212 00:09:53,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: Yes, just a little like light of trauma trauma. 213 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 9: I know most people expect me to start with some 214 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 9: growing pains talk, but I want to ask about your 215 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 9: first job. At seven years old. You co starred in 216 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 9: the movie Lionheart Van Day. Did I have to imagine 217 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 9: there were some great stories from it. What was Van 218 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 9: Damn like through the pov of a seven year old? 219 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 6: Oh my god, yeah, I remember. I mean I was 220 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 6: so young, but the memories that I have from it 221 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 6: were great. Yeah, I mean I remember. I mean it's ultimate, 222 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 6: it's the great movie. 223 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: He's getting to get your bike. 224 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 7: Rewatch, Let's do an episode that. 225 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, please buy that little girl a bike. 226 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 6: I mean, yes, you might know it a little better 227 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 6: than I do. Yes, there is a bike involved. I 228 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 6: I remember I had so much fun that was shooting. 229 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 6: At the time, I was still living in Michigan and 230 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 6: we had come out for I think with that job. 231 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 6: We had come out to visit some family friends and 232 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 6: their kid was auditioning for that part. 233 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: Those are the best stories ever, I. 234 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 6: Know, I know, and we had gone and the I 235 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 6: believe this was Lionheart. It was either Lion Hard or 236 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 6: Growing Pains, and we I went in. The casting director 237 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 6: was like, hey, do you want to audition for this? 238 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 6: And then I did, and then I got it. 239 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: Your family friends were like, we are They're very cool, 240 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 5: very cool. 241 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, just you know, it's and it's also like it 242 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 6: was kind of like learning early on that you just 243 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 6: don't know who's going to be right for what part, 244 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 6: just like it's a it's a crap shoot. It's a 245 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 6: crap shoot. Yes, so yeah, but I remember I had 246 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 6: so much fun, and I remember I had like I 247 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 6: think I had a little bit of a crush on 248 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: Jean Claude. Did it just because like he had like 249 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:21,359 Speaker 6: this this secent, you know, he was like he was beautiful, 250 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 6: he was a ballerina. 251 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, I had a crush on my I had a 252 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 9: crush on my principal when I was in elementary school 253 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 9: and he wasn't beautiful or a ballerina. 254 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 6: So it isn't just funny when you go back and 255 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 6: you look at the pictures and you're like, holy, yeah, 256 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 6: I had a crush. So this is funny because last 257 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 6: night when I was I was preparing and looking at 258 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 6: you guys again, and I was like, I remember I 259 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 6: had such a crush on writer, because everybody did at 260 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 6: that time, and it was so funny. And I looked 261 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 6: back at some of the older pictures and I feel 262 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 6: like we all shot on the same lot. Am I 263 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 6: making that up? Yeah? We did? 264 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 9: Right? 265 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. 266 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Well yeah, well so you did. 267 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: Maybe this time was my brother? So my brother was 268 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: working with you, Like, yes, he was in the pilot 269 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: in the first couple episodes. I don't know whatever he 270 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: ended up not being on the show as a regular, 271 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: but he was in the pilot. 272 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: I think of maybe this time with you he. 273 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 6: Was so great. 274 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was great. 275 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 7: He also worked with your sister at some point. 276 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 6: My sister and I actually might have called her before this, 277 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 6: but I didn't get a hold of her. She played 278 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 6: I believe she played your girlfriend writer on an episode. Okay, okay, 279 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 6: Hailey Johnson, Yeah she was under your she was she 280 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 6: was somebody's girlfriend. 281 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: What episode she was? 282 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: I don't think it was mine. I must have been yours. 283 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 6: I don't think it was yours. Okay. 284 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: So actually then we probably knew Haley first, and then 285 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: you were like Hailey's sister, who also Yes, that's so funny. 286 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 9: Because both of your siblings are we're also child actors. 287 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 9: So which one of you was the first to broach 288 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 9: the idea of acting? And how did your parents ever 289 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 9: juggle three different kids going to audition? 290 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 6: No? Can you can you even imagine that? 291 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 9: No, Like we're just talking about Writer's son is an 292 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 9: actor and and a voiceover actor, and like right crazy, 293 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 9: We were. 294 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 5: Like, how do you how your entire life is up 295 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 5: ended for one kid? 296 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: I got alone? 297 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 6: Three? Let alone three? I you know, it's my My 298 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 6: brother ended up going more behind the camera as time 299 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: went on, and so it was just my my sister 300 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 6: and I for the most part, okay, but I just 301 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 6: I remember it just worked. I don't think we were 302 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 6: working at the same time like my sister did. She 303 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,479 Speaker 6: did Kids Incorporated. 304 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, d yes, yes, we made did yes, so she did, 305 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 10: she did that, And I remember we would never be 306 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 10: working at the same time. 307 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 6: I don't know how it ended up working that way, right. 308 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: At this point or have you moved out here? 309 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 6: We went back and forth a lot, but then we 310 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 6: finally moved out here when it was just kind of like, Okay, 311 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 6: I guess this is something that we're all going to 312 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 6: continue to do and we enjoy. And my parents were 313 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 6: super cool about it. It was like I don't have 314 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 6: one of those stories of like I was forced into 315 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 6: it and I hated it from the beginning, Like I 316 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 6: always liked it, but I didn't start to love it 317 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 6: until later. But yeah, for parents, I mean, thinking back 318 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 6: on just going to auditions as a kid, like that 319 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 6: was so strange, such a strange experience. It was such 320 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 6: a strange world. And it's so fun talking to other 321 00:15:54,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 6: kid actors because there's it's such a weird it's it's 322 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 6: a weird experience. Yeah, it's also right, I'm glad I 323 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 6: had it. 324 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: It's a gone experience too, though, because the industry has 325 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: changed so much, very much, that that sitting in a 326 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: room with twenty other kids that you're going to then 327 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: grow up with in a certain way. 328 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 9: Right, social Security numbers down on a piece of paper 329 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 9: for me to read. 330 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: Why did they don't you remember more than the actual audition. 331 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: The room was where you saw the other kids. 332 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: It got a sense. It was those rooms like the 333 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: waiting rooms that. 334 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: You pilotas, and it would be winting down. 335 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: It would start with fifteen of you in a room 336 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: and then by the end there's like the four left 337 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: that didn't get a pilot that season. 338 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: Yes, it was just it was crazy. It was such 339 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: and it's a world that's gone now it's gone. 340 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gone. My I mean you probably have this 341 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 6: experience writer with your kid now, Like my, A lot 342 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 6: of my nieces and nephews have started to get into it. 343 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 6: And I think in the beginning I was like, I 344 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 6: don't know, I don't know. Guys like not that I 345 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 6: had a bad experience, but you are exposed to people, 346 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 6: do it, you know? Yes? 347 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, the fact that means we were lucky, not that 348 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 9: it's yeah, we were lucky. 349 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, we were lucky. We were lucky. Yeah, And I think, yeah, 350 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 6: they're getting into it, and it's such a different experience now, 351 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 6: Like some of them have worked on some jobs and 352 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 6: they're like, it's so cool, it's so fun, and I'm 353 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 6: like it is and I feel like just this old 354 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 6: crone in the corner and I'm like, well, I'll be careful, 355 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 6: don't don't take anything from anybody. 356 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. 357 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 9: Also, I will say, like we've talked about it a 358 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 9: little bit too, as a director on a lot of 359 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 9: these newer kid shows, the pressure is significantly less than it. 360 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 5: Used to be for us. 361 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: Yea, yes, I would agree with you. 362 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 9: So, well, that's a different type of a different type 363 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 9: of pressure for sure. 364 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 5: But like the actual on. 365 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 9: Set experience for for kids now is a lot more. 366 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 9: This should be fun, we should be enjoying it. We 367 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 9: need to protect each other. We if something's not working, 368 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 9: it's not your fault, will change it. 369 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 5: Let us suggest it. 370 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 9: Those conversations are happening among the adults, not involving the kids. 371 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 9: The ability to like the amount of pressure the adults 372 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 9: put on themselves to make sure all their parents and 373 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 9: all the kids are away before any note is given 374 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 9: about a performance thing, and then it's like it's just 375 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 9: a totally different world. 376 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Totally kids, right, And we were already in a better 377 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: world than. 378 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: Was for like characters, that's right. 379 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean we already were like, oh, we 380 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: have limited hours, we have studio teachers. 381 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: I mean you think about like you know, Judy Garland 382 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: day is like it was. 383 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: Exactly a disaster, right, And then like the seventies, even 384 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: like if you were a kid on a TV show, 385 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: you were just expected to be just like the adult 386 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: and everything that was kid like Mari was an annoyance. 387 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: By the time we were there, there was like, okay, 388 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: we have some sort of and I think you're right. 389 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: Nowadays there's like a real standing like this a fragile do. 390 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: You know the dog This is not a joke. 391 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: The dog that played Toto made more money than Judy 392 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: Garland when they were. 393 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: Doing chicken broth, right, she was literally put on a diet. 394 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: They were like, you can only have cigarettes and chicken. 395 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 4: Broth to with amphetamines, and that the dog made more 396 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 4: money than Judy Garland did. 397 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 6: That's crazy to know that. 398 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it. 399 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 6: Is all right, We're doing okay, y'all, that's what we're 400 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 6: comparing it to. 401 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 5: We're great. 402 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 6: I think about all the time, and I don't know 403 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 6: if if if you guys have this, I guess I'll 404 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 6: call it an issue where I feel like when when 405 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 6: you're a kid and you're like, okay, you're you're rewarded 406 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 6: for sort of doing what you're told and standing where 407 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 6: you're supposed to stand and taking direction, well being a 408 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 6: squeaky wheel, not being a squeaky wheel, And as you 409 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 6: sort of get get older and you're like, oh, this 410 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 6: is sort of turning into like a people pleasing thing. 411 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 6: I don't know. God, yeah, you're like, I don't know 412 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 6: how to like advocate for myself. Absolutely sometimes Yeah it was. 413 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: It was when I was like early twenties and I 414 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: was complaining about how I was being treated on a 415 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: set to John DiMaggio, our friend that. 416 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: Demaggio was like, writer. 417 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 11: You're a grown man, I tell them to treat you 418 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 11: like a grow And I was like, oh my, And 419 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 11: it was I was probably twenty four and it had 420 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 11: occurred to me. 421 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 7: I was like, right, I can stand up for myself. 422 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: I can. 423 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: And because I always thought that if an actor was 424 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: a pain in the ass or a difficult act. I 425 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to be a difficult but it's like, no, 426 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: you don't, right. But conflict is part of the process, 427 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: like after writers want certain things, producers want writers, everybody 428 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: comes together to collaborate, and conflict is okay, like and 429 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: not not judging one another for that. Conflict is something 430 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: that's taken me a long time to learn. Oh, there's 431 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: no one right or wrong. This is just the process. 432 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: This is how the sausage is made. And we're gonna 433 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: come at each other and we're gonna need to compromise 434 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: you about. 435 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 3: How we came up there. 436 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: And again were also on a set where people got 437 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 4: fired were. 438 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: Doing exactly what we were talking about. That's how we 439 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: were rewarded. 440 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 9: I aside from the people pleasing aspect, I also had 441 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 9: to learn how to be in touch with what I 442 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 9: actually felt. I don't know because I'm so used to 443 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 9: you telling me, just tell me what to do, and 444 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 9: I'll do that for you. That like and and I 445 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 9: just want to make you happy, and so what do 446 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 9: I need to do? And then when it's put on 447 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 9: me and it's like, well, you have to make a decision, 448 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 9: It's like what do you mean I don't know what 449 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 9: my personal style is. 450 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 5: I don't know what I I don't know what I 451 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: don't I don't know a thing about. 452 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: Myself because against Danielle with more passion one more time, please. 453 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 2: You're giving me. 454 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: Okay, we have another question for you, something we've talked about. 455 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 4: As we've been going through this, we found one of 456 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 4: the weird kind of things we deal with. Do you 457 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: have a weird kind of issue with how fast you 458 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 4: get dressed? 459 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: Do you have any issues around picking out clothes from. 460 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 6: The self fascinating changing clothes, stressed changing clothes one hundred 461 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 6: percent and ice, Yeah, but we. 462 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 9: Just don't have to hear it out because it's on 463 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 9: tape nights and you have to do it so fast 464 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 9: that everyone for you and I do it as fast 465 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 9: as humanly possible. 466 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: Before we started this podcast, I was changing and I 467 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: was like, my heart was racing. 468 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: I was like, I got to do it. 469 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 7: And I ran into my wife and I was like, 470 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 7: do you get stressed. 471 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Out when you change? It's like, what are you talking about? 472 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: Like I hate changing my clothes more than anything. 473 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 9: Like I go into my closet and I'm like, all right, 474 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 9: I go over to where the tops are and I go, 475 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 9: because something fast, you've got it. And if whatever I 476 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 9: take off, even if I put it on and don't 477 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 9: like it, or for whatever reason, I'm like, I don't 478 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 9: have time, even if I have all the time in 479 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 9: the world, this. 480 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 5: Is what I have to wear now I picked it. 481 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 5: It's on. 482 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: I'm realize. 483 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: This is why I kept sweaters and shirts from B fifty, right, 484 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: I knew that, And people saying me like why, like, 485 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: because it was picked. 486 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 6: Up you guys, I think you just unlocked something for me. 487 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 8: Dude. 488 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: It happens when we'll be talking about something, I will go, 489 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: oh my god, that's I think. 490 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 6: Those are the weird things that you can't quite place. 491 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 6: And later and then when you talk about it with 492 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 6: other people who have had the experience and you're like, oh, yeah, 493 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 6: that's totally a problem I have. But I still have, 494 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 6: Like I think I probably have clothed still from when 495 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 6: I was on growing paints or like where I just 496 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 6: like can't get rid of them. 497 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 4: Ye. 498 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 6: But the same thing is like it's it's been approved, 499 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 6: so you can wear that, and. 500 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: You know the color looks good on you. It's like 501 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 5: it was for you. 502 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 6: How could I be yes, they gave it to me. 503 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 6: I have to keep it. 504 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: The memories childhood trauma here on podets where thanks for jo. 505 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 12: Love talking about Traumpa. 506 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 5: So let's jump into Growing Pains. 507 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 9: You booked the role of Chrissy sever in what appears 508 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 9: to be your first TV job ever? 509 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 5: Right? Do you remember that audition? 510 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 6: Vaguely? Vaguely? I remember, So this is going really far back. 511 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 6: I had so am when I still lived in Michigan. 512 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 6: There was a talent scout that had come to our school, 513 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 6: which is so weird to me. I'm thinking about that now. 514 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 6: And they, Yeah. 515 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 5: I come to your school and look at your children. 516 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 9: Thanks, I'm just gonna look around see if I see 517 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 9: any of your children are special. 518 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 5: Yes, just give me permission to look at your kids. 519 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 6: They like, how did that conversation go to the principle? Like, Hi, 520 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 6: I'm a I'm a man, I work for you know whatever. 521 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 7: But it was. 522 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 5: I'm a man. 523 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 6: So I had They had come for a talent search 524 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 6: for Star Search, and I guess at the school I 525 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 6: told this person that I sang and they were like, 526 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 6: oh great, we'll have you on Star Search. And so 527 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 6: my parents were like, wait, what do you what do 528 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 6: you mean like you you sang for this person? Like 529 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 6: what's going on? So anyway, so I ended up getting 530 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 6: on star Search. 531 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: Search. 532 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 6: Yes, not to brag. I was on Star Wow. 533 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: How many stars did you get? 534 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 6: I don't remember, well, I don't. I did not win. 535 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 6: I did not win. 536 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 5: Did you Which song did you sing? I? 537 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 6: This is so embarrassing because it's so like child? After 538 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 6: I sang, Oh god, what's it called? Broadway baby? 539 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 7: Oh my god? 540 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 6: And so I went on and I remember there was 541 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 6: like another another kid that was the other contestant. His 542 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 6: name was Bud McGregor. 543 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was. 544 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 6: He was like a country singer. He was amazing. I wonder, 545 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 6: did you wear like. 546 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 7: A sequin tuxedo? Did you have like a top? 547 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 6: I did wear a sequin dress that was gorgeous, you know, 548 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 6: taffata and whatever. 549 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: All the other. 550 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 9: Materials were our little actor girl dreams were made of amazing. 551 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely. So I don't think I I didn't win, but 552 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: I think because of Star Search they had me come 553 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 6: in for for growing paints. So I went in. 554 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you can't, you can't. You can't jump off 555 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: of Star Search that quickly. I apologize. 556 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: Did you so you met Ed McMahon. Yes, and they 557 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: bring and I can't. But we have to find out 558 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: how many starts you got because I want to. 559 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: Is this beautiful stars. 560 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 6: We got to be, got to be somewhere. It's got 561 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 6: to be, I believe thinking about it, I think we 562 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 6: I think we had gotten a tie, and then at 563 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 6: the end they do like a re do something. Yeah, man, 564 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 6: so and then I ended up losing, which was great 565 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 6: because I think I only had one song that I say. 566 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 6: I think I only sang that song and you needed 567 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 6: to prepare all of these other songs. But yes, I guys, 568 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 6: meet Ed McMahon. I don't I remember my mom said 569 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 6: I had one hundred and three fever. 570 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, guys, the show must go on the clip. 571 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 5: We found the clip. 572 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 6: No, you did not. 573 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: So much. 574 00:27:54,800 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 6: Spoke, Oh my god, eighty nine, y'all. 575 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 4: What are you like? 576 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 6: Six? Probably wait, hold on, I was born in eighty three. Yeah, 577 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: it was six. But what's hilarious about this to me 578 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 6: is how everyone was like, let's make a tiny Shirley temple, 579 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 6: let's sleep again. But I mean that was my hair. 580 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I look. 581 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 3: Bigger than your head. 582 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 8: How Ashley, do you have a sister. What's your name, Haley? 583 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 8: Do you have a brother, Yes? What's his name, Chris? 584 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 8: Do you have a dog? Yes? What's its name? 585 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 6: Wonderful Waite stars three. 586 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 8: And three quarter stars. The Challenger Ashley Johnson receives three 587 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 8: and three quarter star. 588 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: It was a time. 589 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 6: I know what was going on clearly, look at my face. 590 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: That's the best. 591 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 4: In all fairness, Bud had the belt buckle of a 592 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: full grown man. 593 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 6: He had the hat with the it set his name 594 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: on it. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he want. 595 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 6: He actually had a really great voice, so I'm sure 596 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 6: he went on to hopefully bigger and better things. 597 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: He's one of the star searching Yeah, he's one of 598 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: the blowfish. Now it was enough to be true. 599 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 6: It totally was. I was like, that could be totally true. 600 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 9: That incredible star search performance leads you to pains, and 601 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 9: this is clearly a part that kid actors dream about. 602 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 9: It's still a classic show that has survived the test 603 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 9: of time. As an adult now having been on hundreds 604 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 9: of sets since, what are your overall feelings about that 605 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 9: experience on Growing Pains? 606 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 6: God, I every memory that I have from that is 607 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 6: so good. It really really is like I feel like 608 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 6: that show. They were such a family on that show 609 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 6: already because I came in and on the sixth season, 610 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 6: I think I was on it for the last two seasons, okay, 611 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 6: and I just everyone was so wonderful to me. I 612 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 6: mean not that they're going to be, you know, a 613 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 6: bunch of to a little kid, but it could have been. 614 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 6: They could have been. They could have been, yeah, and 615 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 6: they were just so they just took me in like 616 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 6: I had been there and were so nice to my family. 617 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 6: And I remember shooting on it was it shot on 618 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 6: Warner Brothers Ranch and at the time the lot there 619 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 6: was like the old little house on the prairie set 620 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 6: was still there, and it was there was the old 621 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 6: Jason Barn from Halloween, and I just remember just going 622 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 6: out and just playing every day, and it was it 623 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 6: was such a It was a great start to this career. 624 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 6: I think, you know, some some weird jobs came later 625 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 6: or weird people, but Growing Pains, for the most part 626 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 6: was I still have such incredible memories from it. It 627 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 6: really was just so it was so good. It was 628 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 6: so good. 629 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 9: Infamously, another child actor made a stop on Growing Pains, 630 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 9: mister Leonardo DiCaprio. 631 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 6: Oh, yes, the Leo decaps. 632 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 5: What do you remember about young Leo? 633 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I do remember. He was so he 634 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 6: was so good, like you could tell so early on. 635 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 6: And I think at that time he had just finished 636 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 6: filming This Boy's Life, I think, yeah, and then that 637 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 6: hadn't come out yet, so he was on sort of 638 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 6: the last bit of the season for Growing Pains, and 639 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 6: I just remember everyone was like, this kid is so good, 640 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 6: like he just had he just he had it. He 641 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 6: had it, you know, we felt it, and it was. Yeah, 642 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 6: he was great. I just remember. But he was like 643 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 6: a teenager, you know, he was a kid, so it 644 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 6: was but I remember he was so sweet to me, 645 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 6: and you know, we just stayed. We stayed lifelong friends 646 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 6: of course. 647 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 8: You know. 648 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I get it, I get it. 649 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 6: And my Palio. Yeah, I did actually see him. Well, 650 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 6: I got to see a lot of the last time 651 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 6: I saw everybody. Not the greatest, but I went to 652 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 6: Allan Thick's funeral, and which he was the greatest. He 653 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 6: was the greatest, and like I just I mean as 654 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 6: like a first TV dad, like just I just remember 655 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 6: I loved hugging him and just being around him. And 656 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 6: he was just so he was. He was wonderful. But 657 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 6: I saw a lot of you know, Joanna Kerns and 658 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 6: Jeremy Miller, and getting to see all these people as 659 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 6: an adult, I mean not at a very good time 660 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 6: at cour celebration, bad circumstances, bad circumstances, but I hadn't 661 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 6: seen a lot of them in a while, and it 662 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 6: was really it was sad, but it was really cool 663 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 6: to see them as an adult and get to sort 664 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 6: of have a different conversation with them that I that 665 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 6: I had had I've never had. 666 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 9: But yeah, did you ever return to like real normal 667 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 9: school because you genuinely have never stopped working? 668 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? I did. I did, so I only I only 669 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 6: went to school. I didn't go to high school. I 670 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 6: homeschool through high school. But I went to elementary and 671 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 6: middle school and they weren't fun. Yeah, they weren't fun. 672 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 6: I mean, elementary school was fine, but middle school is 673 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 6: where it kind of just like took another. 674 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 5: No matter who you are, middle school so. 675 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 6: School, yes, it does. So it's a it's yeah. 676 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: I've also said, even when even when it's something good 677 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 4: or cool, like being an actor, anything that makes you different. 678 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: As a kid is bad. 679 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're like, oh, you think you're super into yourself 680 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 6: for you know, it's it's yes, anything that is different 681 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 6: is bad. And so I was very and I still 682 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 6: land like I'm a very introverted I'm not a social creature, 683 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 6: Like I love spending time alone, Like I could totally 684 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 6: just be out on an island and be fine. Like 685 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 6: you send me to Mars, I'll be fine. Let me 686 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 6: find out there. So a lot of it I was. 687 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 6: It was hard, but I had my core group of 688 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 6: friends that I have still have since elementary school. My 689 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 6: best friend I met an elementary school still she's my 690 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 6: best friend. Will has met her before Meila, Oh, of course, 691 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 6: of course. 692 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. 693 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 6: So we yeah, so we've we've rolled dice together. 694 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: We have we have we've formed a shield wall together, Yes, 695 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: we have. 696 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 13: Yeah. 697 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 6: I I mean I kind of kept to myself for 698 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 6: the most part when I was in school. But yeah, 699 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 6: there is that sort of otherness that when you have that, 700 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 6: you're sort of pushed out of the inner circle, which 701 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 6: I was fine with because I've always kind of been 702 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 6: a little weird. 703 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 9: Lone Wolf, you starred in eight different TV shows by 704 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 9: the time you were twenty one. 705 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: How oh, yeah, yeah, your career. 706 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 3: I don't. 707 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 9: How did you avoid burnout or did you ever think 708 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 9: about walking away? 709 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 6: I guess there was a very brief time when I 710 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 6: was thinking about going to college. There was a very 711 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 6: sort of brief amount of you know, seventeen eighteen where 712 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 6: I'm like, is this is this what I want to do? 713 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 6: Do I want to go to school for something else? 714 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 6: Learn and learn something else at least? And I just 715 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 6: kept doing it. 716 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 717 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 6: I mean, the thing is like it's it's I do 718 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 6: love it, like I love part you love parts of it. 719 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 6: Sometimes like there's and of course it's it's like that 720 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 6: I'm sure with any job, but I there's I think 721 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 6: there's also that thing that we have as actors where 722 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 6: you don't know when the next job is coming, so 723 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 6: you're always just like ready to go and just want 724 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 6: to keep working because you know at some point it 725 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 6: probably will stop. Yeah, So I think I think I 726 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 6: just kept doing it because of that reason, because I'm 727 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 6: just I'm like, at some point and it's just going 728 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 6: to stop, so I might as well keep doing it. 729 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 4: We've also talked about how there's the people that keep going. 730 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 3: There's a certain group of people. 731 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: It's like a stand up comedian where you know that 732 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 4: you're supposed to be a stand up comedian or an 733 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 4: actor if you. 734 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: Can't not do it. 735 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, And I think there's a point where you're 736 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 4: just like, I don't picture my life without doing something 737 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 4: in this industry. 738 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: I just it's I couldn't imagine not doing it. 739 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 740 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's almost a call. You hate to use 741 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 3: the word calling, but it seems to kind of be 742 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: like a calling. 743 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 6: It does kind of. Yeah, it kind of feels that way. 744 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 6: And I mean, I don't know. I guess there's a 745 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 6: part of me that I'm like, I don't know if 746 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 6: it's a calling for me as opposed to just it's 747 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 6: what I do. It's kind of like because I've been 748 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 6: doing it since I've been a little wee baby, it's 749 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 6: the alternative. What is the alternative? But I do love it. 750 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 6: I love each aspect of it, and like even now 751 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 6: with working with you know, critical role stuff and we 752 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 6: do you know, a writer's room or comic books and 753 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 6: sort of getting to sort of do this another way. 754 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it stuff. 755 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: So you're you're one of the few people that can 756 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 4: really give us an insight. And I know this is 757 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 4: it's for a lot of actors, it's like asking which 758 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 4: of your children do you like better? You've done You've 759 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 4: done sitcom for a long time, but you've also done 760 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 4: a lot of really good single camera work. So for television, 761 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 4: do you prefer multiicam or do you prefer single cam? 762 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 6: Geez? I haven't done a multiicam in so long, and 763 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 6: I feel like I don't remember what my last multi 764 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 6: caamer sitcom was. I mean I think I was probably 765 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 6: probably early twenties. Okay, so you know, a couple of 766 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 6: decades ago. But there is I mean, it's like the 767 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 6: same as theater. There is an energy there that you 768 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 6: don't get from just a single camera, right, yeah, but 769 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 6: there there's there's They each have their like pros and 770 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 6: cons yeah, you know, but there is something like the 771 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 6: sitcom multicam schedule is the best, you know, because it's 772 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 6: like it's consistent, you have, your you have, It's it's 773 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 6: the closest thing that we have to a nine to five, 774 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 6: I think exactly, and it's it's I haven't done it 775 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 6: in so long, and I feel like it would be 776 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 6: so fun to do it again. 777 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 9: But well, let's remind you of some multiicam with talking 778 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 9: about a very odd moment in your child acting career 779 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 9: which ties directly into Boy Meets World. Oh, we talked 780 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 9: about it the show called Maybe This Time, which is 781 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 9: created and executive produced by one mister Michael Jacobs. 782 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's right, yes, co. 783 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 5: Starring Betty White and Marie Osmond. 784 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 9: And there is a very meta scene in the show 785 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 9: where your character is watching Boy Meets World and then 786 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 9: Corey and Sean start talking directly to you your character 787 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 9: through the screen. 788 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 6: Wait what Yeah, we do not remember that? 789 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: Maybe on IMDb for being in Maybe This Time as Sean, 790 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: which is Yeah, it's so weird. 791 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 6: Remember this. 792 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 9: I have to play it for you because I want 793 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 9: to say it. It's like, I think you have to 794 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 9: remember it once you see it, because especially you said, 795 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 9: but you remember you had a crush on writer, so 796 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 9: I would imagine wonder. 797 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, so it maybe it was just like that. Oh 798 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 6: my god, I can't wait to see this. This is 799 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 6: so crazy. I haven't seen any of Maybe This Time 800 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 6: since it aired, so I don't remember it at all. 801 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 5: Was it a great experience for you? 802 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 6: Do you remember the best? Come on, Betty White, Marie Osmond? 803 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 6: It was just it was I was I was surrounded 804 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 6: by incredible women. Yeah, it was great. 805 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 7: Well, I don't give up on you. She sees that 806 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 7: she doesn't give up on Nicky. Who's Nicky? You know, 807 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 7: the little boyfriend? 808 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 6: Wow? 809 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 5: Have never seen this episode before? 810 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 14: Okay, if I still got one question? Is she dreaming 811 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 14: or is this actually on TV? 812 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 15: Well, essentially, she's experiencing what we call a waking dream. 813 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 15: It's the momentary blurring of the line between the conscious 814 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 15: and the unconscious. 815 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 14: I lived my entire life like that. Hey, what's going on? 816 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 14: What's with all the slime? 817 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 15: A relax, it's just the special effects. It means our 818 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 15: work here is done. So long, Gracie, good luck. 819 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 6: Oh oh my god, I have a vague memory of that. Now, 820 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 6: thanks for that. But how great are you guys? 821 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 5: They're so great, They're so great. 822 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 8: Good. 823 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: It's weird because it's actually like a boy meets World 824 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: storyline scene. 825 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, accurately to our care. 826 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: It's weird. 827 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 6: I wonder what prompted them to write that in. 828 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 9: Michael jacobsabel Yeah, yeah, he's just trying to like, you know, 829 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 9: put together right. 830 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,959 Speaker 1: But it's also so funny because it explains his philosophy 831 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: with boy meets world, Like he literally did believe that 832 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: he was teaching children how to behave yes with art, 833 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, like that moralizing quality is what he thought, 834 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, he went he looked at it as like 835 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: his mission to inspire kids to do the right thing, 836 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: and like he's literally expelling out like the writing philosophy 837 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: behind the Corey Shawn dynamic. 838 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: It's really interesting. 839 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, oh my god, that is so wild to see. 840 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 9: What was your experience with Michael, Like, I know he 841 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 9: co created the show with Boy Meets World writer Susan 842 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 9: Estelle Janssen. 843 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: Yes, and the Trainer was directing it right, Yes. 844 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 5: Very tall, skinny David Trainer. 845 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 6: Yes, oh my god. Yes, yeah. You guys are giving 846 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 6: me so many flat there's like every you know, like 847 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 6: there's that part of time and your brain of being 848 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 6: a kid where it's all just a little fuzzy and blurry. 849 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 6: But you guys for. 850 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 5: Me most of my life. 851 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, but you guys are making it a little 852 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 6: more sharper around the ches. Yes, David Traynor, Oh my god, 853 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 6: he was such a fun director. 854 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 9: Yeah. 855 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 6: I just remember with Michael, I remember he was really fun. 856 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 6: I mean maybe this time only was I think we 857 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 6: only did one season, and I remember, I just remember 858 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 6: it was a great I mean, any I feel like 859 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 6: because of the age that I was any sort of 860 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 6: problems that were happening on set, and I think there 861 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 6: were some. I was shielded from them. Sure, you know, 862 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 6: it was like, Okay, the kid is on set now, 863 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 6: so everybody's you know, we put our differences side at 864 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 6: the moment. But I remember he was he was really 865 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 6: nice to me good and I think I don't remember 866 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 6: him being there a lot. 867 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 9: Okay, yep, that could make sense. Maybe, so maybe Susan 868 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 9: was there more. 869 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 6: I feel like Susan was there more, but I just yeah, 870 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of Maybe this time is 871 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 6: a very vague memory. I just remember that there was 872 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 6: a basketball court on the Disney lot and there would 873 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 6: be like lunchtime. Yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah, that's where 874 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 6: he did Jim the Home Improvement Kids, you guys and 875 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,959 Speaker 6: thunder Ally Zach Tarn And. 876 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 3: Yes, it was a strange gym class if we're honest. 877 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 6: It was because I don't feel like we did Jim 878 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 6: just probably do. 879 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 5: You remember Angel and VICKI. 880 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 6: Were they? 881 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 5: You're Jim trainers by any chance? 882 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 6: Wait, those names sound very familiar to me. 883 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,959 Speaker 9: They were like a married couple who did personal edge 884 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 9: personal edge training. 885 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: You would come and like hang out with us on set, 886 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: like yeah. 887 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 9: Maybe get your sponsorships, like take you to like Rebok. 888 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 3: Brought snowboards. 889 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 6: Wait, this is so crazy. This is so you guys 890 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 6: are bringing up stuff that I haven't. I don't think 891 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 6: I've ever thought about it. 892 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: And so you were younger than us, So you were 893 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: you were probably only like eight, right, or she's. 894 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 9: Not that much younger than me. You're two years younger 895 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 9: than me. So if I was twelve, I'm forty one. 896 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm forty one. 897 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 6: So I mean, like, wait, this is so crazy, so 898 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 6: much stuff that I've thought on so long. Oh my god. 899 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 5: Well get used to this feeling. 900 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 9: Because you have recently started a podcasts and with a 901 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 9: friend tell us in Jaffie. 902 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 5: Am I saying the name right? 903 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 3: A love former child actor? 904 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 9: Yes, from movies like Mister Mom and TV shows like 905 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 9: Facts of Life, And you guys. 906 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 5: Have decided to dig deep into the vault. 907 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 9: That contains the very complicated memories of our preteen jobs. 908 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 9: It's called weird Kids. How has that treated you so far? 909 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 9: And has it thrown you into therapy like the rest 910 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 9: of us. 911 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, I mean we we sort of We had 912 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 6: talked for a long time about wanting to start a podcast, 913 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 6: and with our group of friends, they're like, you guys 914 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 6: have a perspective of being child actors that a lot 915 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 6: of us don't have, and you know that that's not 916 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 6: our main in general. Talison and I are very weird 917 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 6: that so we're like a little a little off center. 918 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 6: So I think the the a lot of it is 919 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 6: not just about, you know, the experience we had on sets, 920 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 6: but also just the two of us just being very 921 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 6: weird kids. So we've had a really good time. But 922 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 6: it is funny how when you start talking about from 923 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 6: when you were a kid and then you're like like, oh, 924 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 6: this is this is bringing up some really interesting, interesting 925 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 6: things that now we are dealing with. But it's been great. 926 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 6: I mean, I I love podcasts. I listen to podcasts 927 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 6: all day long when I'm not working or doing something 928 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 6: I'm I'm mostly political podcasts. That is what I listened 929 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 6: to one hundred percent of the day. 930 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 5: But do you talk about Ed de Bevic's on your podcast? 931 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 6: WHOA I was just talking about with somebody like a 932 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,479 Speaker 6: week ago because BJ's and Burbank used to be ans 933 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 6: as well, but not the O G One. No, but 934 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 6: I loved, didn't we all we went. 935 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 3: There was one left in Chicago and they had us 936 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 3: there at. 937 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 4: The podcast to go and we were actually at the 938 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 4: EDS in Chicago. 939 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 6: Dancing on the Chicago was nationwide. 940 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was just Chicago in l A. 941 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 6: Oh my god, wait I didn't Is it still there? Yeah, 942 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 6: we just went, my god, you guys have fun. Take 943 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 6: weird kid, it will take weird kids Eds and and 944 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,240 Speaker 6: just oh my god. 945 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 946 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the best when you're not looking and dance 947 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,720 Speaker 4: on the table. It's amazing kind of stuff. 948 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they stand character. 949 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 6: They're like, yeah, yes, we need to bring it back 950 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 6: here to l A. What is happening. I don't know, 951 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 6: I mean I don't. We just got a. 952 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 5: Group of us together, a group of us kid actors. 953 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 6: And reopened it and reopened I'm all for it. 954 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 3: It's the restaurant industry is very safe. 955 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 9: It's very it is not a stressful career. 956 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 6: No, I mean, podcasting definitely probably helps prepare you for 957 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 6: a restaurant touring exactly. 958 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 9: It's a it's it's the new straight shot. You go 959 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:34,720 Speaker 9: from hostcat in directly into opening your own restaurant, stop 960 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 9: on your way to stop on the way, then. 961 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 6: Boin, and then you know we're there. 962 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, well anything is possible because you did become 963 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 4: hugely successful playing Dungeons and Dragon. Yes, so again you've 964 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 4: proven that even just a childhood fun craziness can then 965 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 4: turn into a business. Now I know a little bit 966 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 4: about how it started, but can you tell us how 967 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 4: this incredible foray into the world of beautiful nerdom started? 968 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,439 Speaker 9: Yes, you are a founding member of the Revolutionary Critical Role, 969 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 9: So tell us how did that start? 970 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? We it started. So there's eight of us and 971 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 6: one of the members, Leom O'Brien, had wanted to play 972 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 6: D and D for his birthday, and some mutual friends 973 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 6: of ours Matthew Mercer, he was a dungeon master and 974 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 6: was like, I can run the game. And I actually 975 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 6: was not at the first game, but I went to 976 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 6: the second game that we played, and we just once 977 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 6: we started, we couldn't stop. Yeah, because we were like, 978 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 6: oh this is I mean, it's it's long form improv 979 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 6: in a fantasy setting, which you know, I love fantasy, 980 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 6: I love sci fi. So I was I and it 981 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 6: was something I had always wanted to play as a kid, 982 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 6: but I couldn't because I was working and I couldn't. 983 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 6: You know. It's it's you got to get in with 984 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 6: that group as a kid in school, and they're not 985 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 6: gonna let me play in their group when I was 986 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 6: in school. Yeah, but yeah, So we started playing, and 987 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 6: we played for a little over two years just at home. 988 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 6: And then another friend of ours, Felicia Day, who had 989 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 6: uh a streaming channel Geek and Sundry at the time, 990 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 6: and we uh she was like, would you want to 991 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 6: try streaming it? And we were like, I don't know 992 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 6: who's gonna be. That's so long. He was gonna watch this, 993 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 6: you know, it's because it's hours and hours. One game 994 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 6: of over it's over like four hours long. So we're like, well, 995 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 6: we'll try it. It's something that we all love so much. 996 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 6: So if it takes away from our love for it 997 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 6: and the love, yeah, you know, we'll stop. 998 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 5: We'll just stop. 999 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 6: And we didn't. And then it just kept working and 1000 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 6: we just kept going, and we just decided to build 1001 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 6: whatever it is that we've built, you know, And we 1002 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 6: just released our first RPG, Dagger Heart, which is crazy, 1003 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 6: which we've been like building it over the past five 1004 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 6: years or whatever, and it's finally going to be out 1005 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 6: there in the world. And it's it's so it's just 1006 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 6: so fun, like we're just i mean, at work every 1007 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 6: day we just sort of play make believe and you know, 1008 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 6: I've just continued to sort of do that my whole life, 1009 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 6: and I love it. 1010 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 9: You also run the Critical Role Foundation the cheerity of 1011 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 9: the company, which is awesome. Tell us about what you 1012 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 9: guys do there and what your goals. 1013 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 5: Are for the initiative. 1014 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh. So we started the foundation in twenty twenty, 1015 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 6: which was we had wanted to start it earlier, but 1016 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 6: then when COVID hit, which is I would not suggest 1017 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 6: trying to start a nonprofit in the midding that time, 1018 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 6: but it really, it's it's it's been so incredible. Like 1019 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 6: we just ran a charity one shot. The last sort 1020 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 6: of big initiative that we did. We tried something where 1021 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 6: we played a live game and we wanted to raise 1022 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 6: money for the La Wildflyers and we raised about four 1023 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 6: hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. 1024 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 14: Wow. 1025 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 6: And so we raised money for LAFD, the Latino Community Fund. 1026 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 6: I'm forgetting what the third one is right now, But 1027 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:55,320 Speaker 6: it's our community is so incredibly I guess giving that generous. 1028 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 6: And so when we had started the foundation, it was 1029 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 6: a lot of like, well, we love what we do, 1030 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 6: we love doing this, there's got to be a way 1031 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 6: that we can give back, and we did so we 1032 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 6: started the foundation and it's been incredible. I mean, we've 1033 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 6: worked with amazing nonprofits from First Nations Development Institute, A 1034 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 6: two six l a Red Nose Day, Pablove Foundation. It's 1035 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 6: it's it's really been kind of the highlight of what 1036 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 6: we do. And I think Matt, Matt and I are 1037 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 6: the ones who are are most closely related to it, Matthew, 1038 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 6: Mercer and me, and we can't always talk about We're 1039 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,919 Speaker 6: like that's this is going to be our what we 1040 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 6: leave for the world. Like later as we get older 1041 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 6: and we keep going and we can still work on 1042 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 6: the foundation. It's our our legacy. 1043 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 5: We will have to tell you about Ashes to Films 1044 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 5: as well. 1045 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 6: What is this? Please tell me? 1046 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 1: Started nonprofit? Yeah, to support filmmakers after the fires. Uh 1047 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: So it's he's basically raising funds to allow filmmakers to 1048 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: make ten short films and you know, filmmakers that were 1049 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: and then higher crew and. 1050 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 9: Multimakers that were directly impacted by the fires, and then the. 1051 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 2: Festival to Yeah, yeah it's great. 1052 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, how cool is this just to film? 1053 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta joint, you gotta, you gotta help out. Yeah, 1054 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 2: I'll put you in touch with them. 1055 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely incredible. Yeah, you're incredible. 1056 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 9: Great well, Ashley, you are an absolute joy and it 1057 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 9: has been so wonderful reconnecting with you. 1058 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 14: Uh. 1059 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 9: You guys can all watch or listen to Weird Kids 1060 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 9: right now on Beacon dot TV through Critical Role or 1061 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 9: learn more about it on Instagram at the Weird Kids 1062 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 9: pod or check them out at the Chicago Eddubevic's right. 1063 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,760 Speaker 5: I mean you're going to be there. 1064 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 6: Or you know, you'll see us at the opening of 1065 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 6: the news exactly. 1066 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 9: We're going to be we get we should get together 1067 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,360 Speaker 9: to talk about ashes to films and then as a 1068 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 9: side project, work on how do we open. 1069 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 4: LA Okay, I want to throw something out there. All right, 1070 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna be crazy. I'm gonna be crazy 1071 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 4: right now. 1072 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 3: Okay, Charity Edbvick's nineties kid food fight. 1073 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,879 Speaker 6: Can we also get some slime like like a double like. 1074 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 2: A something dropped on us. 1075 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, something dropped on us screens. 1076 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 9: We get dropped into a vat of something like It's 1077 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 9: like how Will was dropped into the butter as a lobster. 1078 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 9: Something needs to get dropped on us. We need to 1079 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 9: get dropped into something. 1080 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 3: I think it'd be good. We can. 1081 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 4: People can come and join the food Fight for charity 1082 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 4: and we raise a whole bunch of money. We'll pick 1083 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 4: some great uh charities out there, and I bet you 1084 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 4: we'd raise a ton of money to come giant. 1085 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,399 Speaker 6: That sounds so fun. 1086 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,240 Speaker 9: We do actually have the connection to the edbics in Chicago. 1087 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 9: We could reach out to them. We could get edbe 1088 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 9: Chicago to come out to LA for an event uh 1089 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 9: and and do something really fun. 1090 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 6: I am in and I will destroy. 1091 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 3: Yes. 1092 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 4: I should also mention Ashley can be a little bit competitive. 1093 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 5: I love it. 1094 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 3: I have seen this happen. 1095 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 6: I loves that. 1096 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 5: So fun. 1097 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 6: Well, you guys so much. This was so fun. 1098 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 9: Thank you, Thank you so much for coming and joining us. 1099 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 9: We appreciate you so much. Let's seriously get together. I mean, 1100 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 9: I feel like we've got so many more stories to share. 1101 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 6: I'm in. 1102 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 5: Thank you Ashley. 1103 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 2: Great to see you. 1104 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 6: Bye guys, Bye. 1105 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 7: Writer. 1106 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 9: We figured out Haley played Linda in the Beard episode 1107 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 9: you were she was your love interest in the Beard episode. 1108 00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: There were two they're too because the other was the 1109 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: original Topanga's sister. There are two roles in that episode, right. 1110 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 5: Right, right, so two sisters. 1111 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: Which is the Beard That's the one where I'm trying 1112 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: to date two different girls and I don't remember it's 1113 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: where it's where everyone at Chubby's calls me scum, calls 1114 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: me and Ben scum like we're because we're Ben ends 1115 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 1: up taking one of them out, and he takes Haley 1116 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: out and then. 1117 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: She falls for him. 1118 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like holding on to her in 1119 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 3: case you want to date her too or something. 1120 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 5: Right, she was supposed to be the safe one, right. 1121 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, right, it's yeah, Oh that's so funny. 1122 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 6: She's great. 1123 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's a ton of fun to play games with. 1124 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 4: She really it's that energy for five hours and as 1125 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 4: you're rolling into a town with your crew and you're 1126 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 4: trying to destroy everything in the town. 1127 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 3: It's yeah. 1128 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: She was always such a solid actor too, Like you know, 1129 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: she's one of those like, oh, there's a reason you worked. 1130 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: She never stopped working, just immediately arrived with like a 1131 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 1: complete ability to act like it's just yeah, yeah, she's phenomenal. 1132 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 9: Thank you all for joining us for this episode of 1133 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 9: Pod Meets World. 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