WEBVTT - SYSK Distraction Playlist: SYSK Live: How Bars Work

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you stuff you should know from house Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant Lives and by

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<v Speaker 1>fogs hany stander planning? Oh yeah, bad's the good stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Can qua rap for everyone? Alright? Good man? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say alcohol makes a difference in the energy level,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge difference. Popcorn popcorn and diet coke just does

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<v Speaker 1>not cut it. Now. Uh So we're here today, hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>just doing our thing, and I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Chuck, have you ever been to a bar? Yes? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have. That was this set up? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you realize though, that while you were at this bar,

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<v Speaker 1>you were in one of the oldest businesses known to

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<v Speaker 1>human kind? The oldest profession. No, not the oldest profession.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the oldest business known to human kind. One

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<v Speaker 1>of bars have been around a very long time, they have,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as long, it turns out, as alcohol does

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who's listening to our How Beer Works episode. It's

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<v Speaker 1>entirely possible that bread was invented as a starter for beer,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty awesome. I mean, that makes humanity as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, like a pretty awesome species. Um. The thing was,

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<v Speaker 1>booze was around for a very long time before bars,

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<v Speaker 1>So there wasn't a place where you just went to

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<v Speaker 1>go drink. You just drank everywhere you went pretty much. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You literally like you could drink at work, you could

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<v Speaker 1>drink at school. There would be meetings and civic meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>You would drink there. But there wasn't an establishment with

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<v Speaker 1>four walls set up just for drinking at this point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You would drink it like this Saturday night ritual sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>or something like yeah, as you do. Yeah. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the first bars then that really kind of pop up

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<v Speaker 1>are around the turn of not this past millennia, but

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<v Speaker 1>the one before. And you can find them in Italy

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<v Speaker 1>in a place called Pompeii. And these aren't necessarily the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest bars in the world, but they are one of

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest established bars. And they were basically, um, hot

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<v Speaker 1>snack bars. They're called it sounds gross there, it does

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<v Speaker 1>hot snacks. Hot snacks. Yeah. Well it's like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>chicken wings or poutine is a hot snack. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>hot snack. That's the hottest snack. That's yeah, because they

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<v Speaker 1>took a hot snack and then poured hot gravy. And

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<v Speaker 1>what is a cheese that's hot? Right? That's hot? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know this was more like I imagine hot olives hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, hot tomatoes. The point is that there

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<v Speaker 1>was there was wine at these places, right. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever been to Bombay Pompeii um as I have,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see these places. They're like bars or countertops

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<v Speaker 1>with holes cut out, and they put like jugs of olives,

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<v Speaker 1>poutine and wine and stuff. And you would go down

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<v Speaker 1>to this this area and hang out and drink and

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with your neighbors. And sure like, look at

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<v Speaker 1>malt pvesuvius over there. It isn't it lovely? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's ever gonna do it that. We're good. Don't be ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>You were drunk. So again, the an't these are the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest bars, but they're among the earliest um. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Romans were really kind of big with bars. In home itself,

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<v Speaker 1>there were lots of bars like there were in vesuvious Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Romans also did something else that led to

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<v Speaker 1>the spread of bars, and they built roads. Well, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, they conquered the world and then they built roads,

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<v Speaker 1>and along these roads there were inns for travelers, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the ends there were bars. Yeah, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>were tradesman on a Roman road that it was scary

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<v Speaker 1>at night you might get mugged and killed. So they

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<v Speaker 1>would do their trading and traveling during the day and

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<v Speaker 1>then they would stay in these ends at night. And

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<v Speaker 1>just like modern American business travelers, what else do you

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<v Speaker 1>do when you're on the road like that, You got

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<v Speaker 1>to the hotel bar and you drink your face off.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what the tradesmen did in ancient Rome. You

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate not getting murdered that day on the Roman road.

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<v Speaker 1>I traded some spices, I didn't get killed, So bring

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<v Speaker 1>them the gropp up exactly. And um, so out of

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<v Speaker 1>this came the taverns, the ends, the pubs, like they

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<v Speaker 1>basically said, that's great, you've gotten in, but we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a little town and we could use a couple more,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't need in, so let's just stick to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the bar part those are, that's how those

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<v Speaker 1>evolved out of there. But um, the oldest bar in

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<v Speaker 1>the world probably it's definitely the oldest bar in Ireland,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could possibly be Guinnesses investigating as we speak

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<v Speaker 1>to the oldest bar in the world right now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called Shawn's. Has anyone ever heard of Shawn's in Athlone, Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been there, it sounds pretty neat. He's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's enough to cheer. Um it was. It was founded

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<v Speaker 1>in a nine d c and actual, real live, no joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings used to get wasted there and this place is

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<v Speaker 1>still around, Like you can go get wasted where the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings got wasted, which is pretty amazing. I guess they

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<v Speaker 1>would They would eat mushrooms and then kill people all

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<v Speaker 1>the way. They would go berserk, remember that. So the

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<v Speaker 1>coolest thing about Shawn's actually is, um, it predates the

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<v Speaker 1>town that it's in now. It used to be for

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty years just Shawn's Bar and this

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<v Speaker 1>old Roman road. And apparently people got tired of like

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<v Speaker 1>having to drive home after getting wasted at shawn so

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<v Speaker 1>they just built their houses around it. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the town of athlo And, Ireland came from. That's true,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's interesting fact. That's not true. Interesting fact

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<v Speaker 1>about Shawn's Bar. In nineteen seven it was owned by

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<v Speaker 1>boy George. Yeah, the boy George, not the one you

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<v Speaker 1>were thinking of. Boy George. Yeah, I guess you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. He thought it was a safe investment. It

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<v Speaker 1>had been there for you know that many years. But

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<v Speaker 1>he got out of it. He's like, nah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he went broke. Someone in the first show said he

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<v Speaker 1>went broke. It's well, that's mean, yeah, but it could

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<v Speaker 1>be true. Yeah, I think it's true. So we did

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<v Speaker 1>a little research on your town and we were very

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<v Speaker 1>pleasantly surprised to find that, you know, your town was

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<v Speaker 1>founded on a bar, right, y'all know that gassy Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Gassie Jack. Within twenty four hours of landing

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<v Speaker 1>and founding gas Town, Gassy Jack built a bar. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing he did. He's like, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a town. He woke up the next day. I went,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna build a bar. Yeah. And he built the globe,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not there. It's it's It was at the

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<v Speaker 1>corner of Walter and Carroll Streets. I think in Gastown

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<v Speaker 1>a water live corrections, so water and Carol. Hey, I said, Carol, right,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, give me some points there. Well, the way

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<v Speaker 1>I look at it is we just say that these

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<v Speaker 1>people from having the email us right, it's Walter. This

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<v Speaker 1>is actually kind of efficient. Yeah, this is cool. Should

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<v Speaker 1>just do every show live. So there's there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a statue of Gassy Jack and um, and we think

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<v Speaker 1>very highly of him because of the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>built a bar. But he did things back and we

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<v Speaker 1>found out it's not gassy like you think that it

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<v Speaker 1>was gassy because it was talkative. Did you guys know

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<v Speaker 1>that boring? Yeah? I was all pumped up. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy farted a lot and it's like, just let

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<v Speaker 1>that name. He was clearly proud of it because he

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<v Speaker 1>let them erect a statue that says gassy Jay. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just because he talked a lot. And they do

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<v Speaker 1>have a statue there right, Yeah, at Water and Carroll Streets.

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<v Speaker 1>So Vancouver itself would have older bars than it does

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<v Speaker 1>if like Atlanta where we're from. Uh, it hadn't burned down.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And what was that eighty six? Quickly rebuilt of

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<v Speaker 1>course because you're a strong city. But um, in Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>we have the six Mile Pub eighty six not too shabby,

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<v Speaker 1>not to ship and Garrick said, pub also in Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty seven, except that it's not bad as far

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<v Speaker 1>as old as drinking establishments go. No. But uh, guessie

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<v Speaker 1>Jack kind of thwarted convention by building the bar first

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<v Speaker 1>and then the hotel because that whole tradition of having

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<v Speaker 1>a bar in a hotel survived long past the Roman Roads. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there were pubs and taverns and everything, but that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that there weren't bars in hotels any longer. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and that made its way over to the New world,

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<v Speaker 1>which is here, that's all of us, and and along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. One of the reasons why this whole custom

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<v Speaker 1>and and um tradition made its way over was because

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<v Speaker 1>you could make a lot of money being a bartender

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<v Speaker 1>because you probably owned the bar, you probably owned the

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<v Speaker 1>end that the bar was in, and you're probably making

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<v Speaker 1>the booze that you were selling, so you were just

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<v Speaker 1>making bank. So they the bartenders actually were a among

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<v Speaker 1>the wealthiest of the socioeconomics states. Yeah, they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the upper tier of society exactly. Uh, in America, we

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<v Speaker 1>have the same thing, like Josha. We had ends that

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<v Speaker 1>had the bars. But then in eighteen thirty two, the U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Congress said, you know what, let's pass a law. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>call it the pioneer in in Tavern law, And let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say you don't have to stay in the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>to get drunk there. You can just come in, get

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<v Speaker 1>south and get on your horse and and crash it

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<v Speaker 1>on the way home. I guess somebody just clapped for

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<v Speaker 1>the pioneer in in Tavern. Liley. Yes, we won't stay here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a cool on and it changed everything

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<v Speaker 1>because all of a sudden you could just have a

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<v Speaker 1>bar in a place where you can just go drink. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the industrial age changed everything too, because place like

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<v Speaker 1>say New York City became this this beacon for immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>to come to and and be skilled laborers and working factories.

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<v Speaker 1>And they brought with them their love of of bars,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, what the hell is going on with

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<v Speaker 1>this town? Like where are all your bars? We want

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<v Speaker 1>to bar here? Bar there, Bar there, bar there? We

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<v Speaker 1>want to bar there? Where are all your bars? We

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<v Speaker 1>know how to make whiskey too, which exactly like like

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<v Speaker 1>just leave it to us, we'll open the bars. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And very quickly bars sprouted in neighborhoods and became customary,

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<v Speaker 1>like pretty much overnight in the United States. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were because sort of like they are now in

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<v Speaker 1>like the best towns are the center of civic life.

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<v Speaker 1>There were where people congregated. It was the center of politics.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, back in the day, it was untoward to

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<v Speaker 1>actually have legitimate advertisements and political campaigns. That was no good.

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<v Speaker 1>What you could do is get everyone loaded on election day.

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<v Speaker 1>And they even had a name for it, which was

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<v Speaker 1>swilling the planters with bumbo, and bumbo was a rum

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<v Speaker 1>and the planters were the voters. The voters and basically

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<v Speaker 1>whoever got the most people drunk on election day one

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<v Speaker 1>like almost literally that's the case, Yeah, which is pretty solid. George,

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington, who's the father of our country. He uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he made his first bid for the Virginia Legislature and

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<v Speaker 1>lost because he didn't he didn't cotton to that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Didn't swill the planners with bumbo. No, he

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<v Speaker 1>did not. And he learned his lesson because the next

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<v Speaker 1>time he ran for the legislature, he spent something like

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of his entire campaign fund on booze on

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<v Speaker 1>election day and he won big time. He figured it out,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, and uh, to this day, well, it became

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<v Speaker 1>rife with corruption. Of course, anytime you're getting people drunk

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for you, eventually they're gonna evolve as a

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<v Speaker 1>nation and say, yeah, no, maybe that sounds such a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea, So let's outlaw drinking on election day altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>And for many years that was the case. And in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of states, South Carolina and Kentucky in America,

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<v Speaker 1>they still won't let you drink on election day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the bars were closed, which is weird and archaic. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's on a Tuesday, which is strange. But they have

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<v Speaker 1>like really efficient quick elections just over and everybody's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get this over with. The bars are closed, this

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<v Speaker 1>is awful. Yes, you're elected, they do. They're drinking at home.

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<v Speaker 1>I think on election day probably we'll be back to

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know. Live in Vancouver, right, Josh, right,

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<v Speaker 1>hold your horses, everybody, you know, buddy. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with my very cool nephew over the holidays

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<v Speaker 1>and he is a budding photographer and he showed me

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<v Speaker 1>Let's getting the way back machine. We bought a full

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<v Speaker 1>size way back machine so we can. Oh, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go back to New York City. It's eighteen twenty and

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<v Speaker 1>the first celebrity bartender is uh, well, he's not born

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<v Speaker 1>because he's old by that point. But his name was

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<v Speaker 1>Erasmus Willard, and he worked at the City Hotel in

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<v Speaker 1>New York and he was famous. He had two really

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<v Speaker 1>meat traits that turns out to be a celebrity bartender.

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<v Speaker 1>He's ambidextrous, and he had a photographic memory, so he

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<v Speaker 1>could make drinks with both hands and recognize your face

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<v Speaker 1>as you're coming in the door and be making your

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<v Speaker 1>drink with one hand and recognize his face and then

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<v Speaker 1>we say his Because only men were allowed in bars

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, by the way, it's right, ladies, it

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<v Speaker 1>gets better, it gets better, get better with us. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>women could go to bars. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>knew that. So Harasmus Willard was the first dude, and

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<v Speaker 1>he sort of paved the way. He was known as

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<v Speaker 1>the best known man in the city, and he paid

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<v Speaker 1>the way for Josh's hero, my hero Jerry Thomas. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, give it up for Cheritos. So Jerry Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>like that guy. Yeah, everybody's like, you can tell us

0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.960
<v Speaker 1>more about him? Why is it your hero? Later? Explain?

0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:17.200
<v Speaker 1>They're always asking us to explain. Um, Jerry Thomas was

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<v Speaker 1>this dude who was flamboyant. Yeah, yeah, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>say he had a little little liberace and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely he would tend very flashy. He would tend bar

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<v Speaker 1>with like diamond rings on both hands, diamond stickpin and

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<v Speaker 1>his tie. Uh literally a rat on each shoulder while

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<v Speaker 1>he's tending bar. And this guy rats and this guy

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<v Speaker 1>his signature drink was called the Blue Blazer, which was

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<v Speaker 1>Scotch and I think a little bit of sugar and

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<v Speaker 1>some water, but you would pour it from wine glass

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<v Speaker 1>to wineglass on fire with rats on your shoulders and

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<v Speaker 1>diamonds sparkling in the flames and like this is Erry Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty awesome. Like that in and of itself

0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.800
<v Speaker 1>warrants mentioned, you know, hundred and fifty years later. But

0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 1>he also had the brains and the creativity to back

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<v Speaker 1>it up. And basically, in Jerry Thomas, you have everything

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<v Speaker 1>that we know about cocktails and drinking and going to

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<v Speaker 1>a bar in this one dude's person. Yeah. He you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he Barten in New York for a while, had his

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<v Speaker 1>own place, and then the Civil War started and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't like all this killing of each

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<v Speaker 1>other's thing, So I'm gonna go out west and do

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<v Speaker 1>my thing out there for a while. And you teld

0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.280
<v Speaker 1>me when that Civil war is over, and I'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back to New York. But you did. He spent some

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<v Speaker 1>time out west, and yeah, and Saloons, I guess, applying

0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:48.600
<v Speaker 1>as trade and that's right West Coast, and uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a place you just got pandered to. The West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast is a thing, and that's right West Coast. Good job,

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<v Speaker 1>and that what they do that works? I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>East Side. I thought it was this early on. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so bad at it. This is this is West Coast, clearly, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes back to New York and he says, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna write a book I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna spread the joy of my craft. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take like everything that he's learned through his travels, all

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<v Speaker 1>the inventions he made, and puts it into a book. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back in eighteen sixty two. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>the first bartenders guide ever. Uh, you should do the

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<v Speaker 1>honors here because it's the greatest book title. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>three titles. It's called The Bartender's Guide, or How to

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<v Speaker 1>Mix Drinks or the bomba Bants Companion. I like companion,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure, especially when you're like wearing diamonds on

0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.480
<v Speaker 1>both hands and rats on your shoulders. It's the bomb

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<v Speaker 1>of Ants Companion. So he had a lot of flash,

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<v Speaker 1>we said, and not necessarily, Uh, the other bartenders that

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<v Speaker 1>followed in his footups footsteps didn't really necessarily go that far.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he did do was he provided craftsmanship and

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<v Speaker 1>artisanship to bartending for the first time, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>the first guy to really So you know, you should

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<v Speaker 1>take pride in what you're doing here and making a

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<v Speaker 1>good drink. Yeah, and dress up. We'll kill you to

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<v Speaker 1>dress up a little bit, but I kill you to

0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.840
<v Speaker 1>put a rat on your shoulder for once. So they

0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:32.320
<v Speaker 1>don't bite much. Uh so, well, and we'll talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little more about Jerry Thomas and what he did. But

0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.440
<v Speaker 1>while he's working, this is like the boon the hey Day,

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the initial boon of drinking. Basically before then everybody drank

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<v Speaker 1>and they drank all the time. But this is like

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<v Speaker 1>going and getting a drink was a cool thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's legit. But if you listen closely, while Jerry Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>is mixing his blue Blazer, there's a drumbeat in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you listen, it sounds really like stupid and

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<v Speaker 1>wrong minded, and and if you really focus it on it,

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<v Speaker 1>you realize it's the drum beat of the temperance movement,

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<v Speaker 1>which managed to get prohibition passed, not just a hard country,

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>but in your country. Yes, let's all booth the Temperance movement.

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<v Speaker 1>What a bad idea. And the Canadians knew it was

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea way before we did, because you had

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<v Speaker 1>prohibition for a very short time, and this sucks. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just stupid with you had it for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years during wartime from I think nine and nineteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was provincial otherwise, but you had a very nice

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Canadian loophole. If you have an ailment, you could get booze.

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<v Speaker 1>You could go to even during prohibition, you could go

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<v Speaker 1>to the doctor and say, Doc, I got I got

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<v Speaker 1>the I got the shapes, I got the shakes. I

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<v Speaker 1>need's the booze bad? I got the I got the six,

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:52.159
<v Speaker 1>I got the I got the cold, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy lings. I'm awake, Doc, I'm awake, Just give me

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<v Speaker 1>some foods. And then Doc would be like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to. Day was a boost and uh in Ontario

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<v Speaker 1>in one year in anyone have a guest on how

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<v Speaker 1>many prescriptions for booze just in Ontario? Everyone? Where do

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<v Speaker 1>you want? What do you say? Four hundred thousand? No, double,

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.119
<v Speaker 1>it's eight hundred and ten thousand. People were so sick

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<v Speaker 1>that they needed both in one year, just in Ontario.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were really impressed by that number. So, as

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<v Speaker 1>as is our usual want, we went and looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the Canadian Census and we found that eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand, the number of prescriptions in that one year

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<v Speaker 1>in Ontario alone, was one tenth the entire population of Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're like, wow, the numbers really head up. Canada

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty cool like that's when it really broke on us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, all right, you were a very sickly people.

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 1>We needed build better. Uh. And it is funny to

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<v Speaker 1>see a play out all these years later with the

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.920
<v Speaker 1>marijuana clinics. It's like, it's the same thing. I got

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.159
<v Speaker 1>the sis, I'm awake, I got the shakes. Oh you

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:17.480
<v Speaker 1>need some marijuana. I don't eat enough. You have the

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>neuropaths here right, Like you can just walk in and

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and talk to a dude, a neuropath, and they'll say, oh, well,

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 1>you clearly need some marijuana. So this is a very

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.879
<v Speaker 1>dark time, not only for bartending as a craft because

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>it was just sorting to become like a legitimate thing

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and respectable thing, but for booze period. Prohibition was bad

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.919
<v Speaker 1>because there were a lot of bars, but they just

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<v Speaker 1>weren't legal. I think they were twice the number of

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>prohibition pars that there were legal bars. Yeah. There in

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<v Speaker 1>the US there were thirty thousand speakeasies, which was twice

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 1>the number of legally licensed bars before prohibition was clearly working.

0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:00.399
<v Speaker 1>So clearly prohibition was just a great idea all around,

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.360
<v Speaker 1>because the mob was like, yes, come here, we can

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>take care of you just look for the green door

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>and you'll find a speakeasy. Yeah, and uh it was

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<v Speaker 1>bad for bartending though, because whoever the bartender was was

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<v Speaker 1>who was the guy who could get the booze, and

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>who could get the booze didn't necessarily know anything about booze,

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:21.360
<v Speaker 1>for one, or making good drinks, and it wasn't necessarily

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.480
<v Speaker 1>good booze. Like it would literally kill you or or

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>um strike you blind. You heard the saying abot this

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>will make it go blind. It's really made people go blind,

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like to a lot of people. That's where the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. There was there was a batch of industrial

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol that I guess the US government thought was going

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<v Speaker 1>to fall into the hands of bootleggers, which it did. Um,

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 1>so they decided to poison it and a lot of

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>people died, and the American government was like and like

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 1>walked away. It's not it's not very much talked about.

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 1>We found out about it, so we're like telling everybody

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is that is messed up? But I think in uh,

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>what is it chuck alone? People died from bad liquor,

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and that's not including people who are paralyzed or struggle. Yeah,

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>what that means actually just occurred to me. That means

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand people died, and twenty five thousand more

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>people were still like, I'm gonna give it a shot,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what are the chances, you know, anything to

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 1>take care of the jimmy legs? Yeah, I got the shakes.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other cool thing about prohibition is since all

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the rules are out the door, basically women said I'm

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>going to a bar and you're not gonna stop me.

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I've come a long way, baby, So women were now

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<v Speaker 1>congregating in bars, and men all of a sudden went,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great. I don't know why we never allowed

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<v Speaker 1>women in here, because we've just been getting drunk by

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves and sort of looking at each other and going

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<v Speaker 1>home at the end of the night. And that's sort

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>of weird, which, which, as we'll get to, eventually became

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a tradition at bars. That's right, call me home alone.

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.239
<v Speaker 1>But at least there were women now and they were

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>getting south right along with the guys. Right. Great, But

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it was because there weren't any rules. It was like

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a speakeasy was operating illegally. So a woman would come

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to the door and be like, what are you gonna

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>not let me in, you know, like you're not even

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be serving booze anyway. Yeah, and there's another

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable fact here that Josh dug up that I still

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>take issue with. Apparently, up until the nineteen eighties and Alberta,

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>where is that that way? This way? Is that? Easter's

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that way? Apparently in Alberta they had laws on the

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>books and up until the nineteen eighties that still were

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>gender specific with bars. I know, hey, man, we're pretty

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>telling you guys about it. We didn't create the laws. Well,

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:52.959
<v Speaker 1>I think it might have been. I don't know if

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it was in Forest. Surely not, because they had the

0:25:55.720 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>sixties in the seventies too, right, catching up toward the eights.

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>So prohibition happens, right, and um, everybody's like that was

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>a really bad idea. Let's never do that again, let's

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>repeal it, and um oh, let's go to war. So

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>World War two happened, and that actually had a pretty

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>significant effect on bars too. Apparently up here they sent

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>all of your guys over to Europe to fight, and

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>your guys came back and said, there are these pubs

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>in Europe that are awesome, so let's build them. Everywhere.

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>And then after that, like, yeah, we got the pubs.

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>How about some sports bars too, Let's mix those in

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And that's pretty much how things went

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>for a while in Canada. In the US, um our

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>guys apparently all went to the South Pacific and came

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.719
<v Speaker 1>back and we're like tiki culture, and tiki was huge

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Not a fan here. I don't

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>understand this at all, Like, how do you not like tiki?

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>There's like fun uh shirts right, All the drinks are good,

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 1>very very easty stuff. Uh. The restaurants that you go

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to to drink are fun. It's just nice. Yeah, I'm

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a pub guy. I don't I don't see why you

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>have to differentiates anyway. So that's how things were in

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the US and Canada until there's a very dark time

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>that settled over the land. Not as dark as Prohibition,

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>but pretty close. And this was the age of the

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 1>fern bar. Does anyone know what a fern bar is?

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of that? You know, how you

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 1>go to Red Robin and there's like tiffany lamps and

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 1>like terrible drinks and all that stuff. Well, you can

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>thank the invention of the fern bar for that, Like,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen a Three's company? Remember the Regal

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>That was a firm bar and in the seventies they

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>were all the rage. Yeah, there was a guy in

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco and he went by the name of Henry

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Africa because that's a super fun name. His real name

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>was Norman hob Day and he opened his bar Henry

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Africa's because Norman hobb Days is this really bad name

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>for a bar as well. Plus also he apparently all

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the time wore safari gear in like a helmet. Yeah,

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 1>And so he went by Henry Africa and Jerry Thomas

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 1>were sort of similar. I think they were both flamboyant.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>One ruined things, one did great things back. So he

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>opened up Henry Africa's. There was another one in San

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Francisco too in the early uh it was a yeah

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen seventies and name is called Perry's. And

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>they were like, you know what, let's get rid of

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>these classy oak dark bars that everyone loves because they're awesome,

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and let's put in ferns and tippany lamps and fat

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>chairs and let's bring the lights up and let's serve

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>nasty drinks mixed and machines nasty from bags of mixed

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>chemical flavored things. Yeah, and I have an idea. This

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>is gonna make us a million bucks. I'm gonna make

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a gun that shoots soda, water and orange juice out

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of the same thing. And everyone apparently said, it's the

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 1>seventies who cares about anything. Let's go this way for

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the firm bars. They did, true, and it was the

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>sexual revolution. So the ladies that were already going to

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>bars now felt like, Hey, I'm in a bar and

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I can be like a more aggressive all of a sudden,

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's the hip happening times. I'm Diane Keaton.

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I can That's what they said to themselves. I can

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>look for Mr Goodbar and uh and and and have

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>a drink and go meet a man. Uh. I'd like

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to was it was my lady from the

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>seventies impression. I have to see Mr Goodbar looking searching

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>for Mr Goodbar, looking for Mr One. Has nobody ever

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>seen that movie? Oh my god, that was a pity clap.

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>They don't have Diane Keaton in Canada. Have you seen it?

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I think my threes company references way more well received better,

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>But the point is you could bad drinks in these bars,

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's sort of a dark time for the craft

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of bartending. Like the Bahama Mama, the Kama Kazi um,

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the sides. Yeah, the Harvey Wallbanger, which apparently was so

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>popular it had its own mascot. It was like, uh,

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 1>basically a drunken version of Ziggy just wandering around and

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess like you would get a sticker or something

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>if you ordered a Harvey Wallbanger. This is the level

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of thought people were putting into drinks. If you just

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>sell the drink, you give a sticker out, then that's

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that's not a place you want to be in. Especially

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Ziggy with like exces for eyes. Pretty much changed my mind.

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I think have like one of those inclines coming off

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>of them is kind of nice. I'll get you one

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>for Christmas. They have the money bay. So this is

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the way things were going for a while, uh, until

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>this very faithful meeting between this guy named Dale de

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Groff and a dude who owned a restaurant and he

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to Grof to set up a bar for him.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>And he said, you know what, I don't want this

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>usual firm bar crud. This is awful, this New York City, Like,

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>we gotta do this, right, Yeah, let's let's get back

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to basics. And he tossed Dale de Groff a book,

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>a very important book. What book, the Bomby Box Companion

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>from eighteen sixty two. Everything came full circle. Yeah, and

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Dale de Groff was like, this is amazing. We can

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>bring craftsmanship back into bartending. Unlet's use real ingredients. Let's

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>get rid of these stupid swirly mixing machines and these

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>bags of chemical fruit flavored things, and let's use real fruit,

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>because there is such a thing as real fruit, and

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we should put it in drinks again, like in the

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century, right, And that's what they did, and the

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>bar was saved. So when you go to like the

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Cascade Room or the Diamond or I don't know if

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys have been to Boulevard, I know it's like

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty new. But if you finally do go and you

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>enjoy a cocktail there, we did our search, uh, and

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope that was dead on because we I really

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>put us out there just then. But if you go

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to a place where there's a decent cocktail and somebody's

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>really putting thought into it, you can thank this Dale

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Degrof guy for bringing it all back, but really you

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>should thank Jerry Thomas to tell you the truth. Now,

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>do you understand why he's my hero? See? They love

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Thomas. But let's talk a little more about him. Right. So,

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>like at the bars is, they're evolving and bartenders are evolving.

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>They're going from diamond studded to you know, just normal um.

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Cocktails are evolving too. Like early on, basically everybody made

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>their own booze and they had it in a jug

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>with three X is on it and they just turned

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>it up and that was like their cocktail. It's how

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they drank. Yeah, like chuck yeah, based turned the three

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>X jug out. Um. And then when when Jerry Thomas

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>came on the scenes, like we can do better than this.

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>There's some cool ingredients that I want to kind of

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>mess with and create new stuff. So originally there were punches,

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>which is a huge bowl of hot booze that everybody

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>drank from the bumbo that the planners swilled. Right. Then

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>there was a toddy, which apparently from what I can gather,

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it is just like a single serving hot punch, right,

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>And then there were slings and slings were the ones

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that had the most promised. Those became what we understand

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>now as cocktails. They were basically booze um, a little

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>bit of water, a little bit of sugar and then

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe some fruit juice. And Jerry Thomas looks at the

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>sling and he goes, I can do something with this,

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and he creates what's called the Baroque Age of cocktails,

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>where there's just like this great experimentation going on. Nobody

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>knows what the hell anybody else is doing, but everybody's

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>trying new stuff and um. All of these The foundation

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>for what we know now as cocktails came out of Thera. Yeah,

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>and the first cocktail was mentioned in print the word

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen o three in Amherst, New Hampshire, with the

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>slogan it's excellent for the head because it was a

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>morning drink. It was you were supposed to drink a cocktail.

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>That's where it comes from, the rooster cocktail, that's where

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the word comes from. And if you drank too much

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>of the night before, you would get up in the

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 1>morning and make your little fizzy cocktail drink with bitters,

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and it was it's like the hair of the dog

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.439
<v Speaker 1>that with some of us know and love. You would

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>drink your cocktail, get punched in the face by your wife,

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 1>pick up your acts, and go back out there and

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>work another day. That's what they used to do. Jerry

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Thomas said, you know what, I love the morning cocktail

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>as much as anybody else. But why can't we keep

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>drinking throughout the day? Let me see if I can

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.919
<v Speaker 1>mess with this. I save alcoholism for the morning. So

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>through this Baroque era of drink making, it was very

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>very nuanced, like you would have like a sour, and

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>a sour was just booze citrus and a little bit

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>of sweetener usually maybe be curius how or something like that,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and then you would change that dramatically by adding soda,

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden you had a fizz

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>or if you wanted to use um booze a little

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>bit of grenadine I think, or was it curius how

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>sweetener and um brandy or something, you would have a daisy.

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>And then in Mexico they added tequila to the daisy,

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and in um Spanish daisy is margarita, So that's where

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the margarita came from. Around this time, I got some

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:35.760
<v Speaker 1>margarita fans out there. Huh So Jerry Thomas was very influential,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>but he was Uh, if you ever pick up a

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>copy of the Bombay Companion and try and read this thing,

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>it's it doesn't translate that crate to today's um proportions,

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Like what is a glug like literally like three glugs

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of this and a pinch of that, and uh, well,

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess pinches easy enough, but well no, I still

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>don't understand pinch. I mean, yeah, it makes sense, but

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>what if you're like, that's that's a lot more than

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a good point. So it took like cocktail historians,

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>uh to to kind of read the thing and bring

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it into the modern era because back then, sugar came

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>in a big loaf, and sugar wasn't like refined like

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>it is today, and ice, you know, was had a

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 1>big deal chip it away exactly how you wanted to,

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>And so it took cocktail historians to really kind of

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>translate all this stuff right, and they did, and along

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the way, Jerry Thomas dies, but he creates his great

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>body of work that's added to over time, and then

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>eventually we come to like the streamlined classic cocktails that

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>we have today. Like the Martini or the Manhattan and

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>all of this was from the work of these like

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>wonderful genius people who are like fighting on the front

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>lines against the temperance movement and making life better for

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>every hero heroes, real heroes, you know, shirking out of

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>like the Civil War and all that stuff, just doing

0:36:53.600 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>God's work basically. And the Martini. We're gonna talk about

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 1>some of these classic cocktails and martini. Uh if anyone

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>here drinks martinis, it's always any Martini things. I love Martini,

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>says the guy with the PBR, and it's hand some

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Martinis right now. I'm just gonna put these back in

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>my helmet and drink them from my stall. So the Martini,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever had a Martini, it's very dependent on

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>the individual on how exactly you like it. Everyone says

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>that that they like make the perfect martini, but the

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>ratio for removed the gin and uh no, no no,

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I make the perfect Martini Si. Everyone thinks that make

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>how do you make it? Okay? I use um two

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to three ounces? Okay, I used three o three like

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Scotch over three three ounces of gin and half an

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>ounce of uh stir itt. Some crushed ice because it

0:37:55.600 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>gets cold or faster. It's way better strain it. Um. Sometimes,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>if you want to get a little crazy and you

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>want to go original, the Martini is actually supposed to

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>have orange bitters in it. A couple of dashes of

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 1>orange bitters. Yeah, you say what, and it seems weird,

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>but you don't taste the orange. It just does something

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>different to it. And then a couple of all of us,

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>all right, Martin, all of juice, I drinklin journey. Do

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you do you really drink your sturdy? Oh yeah, I

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>like it. It's salty. I don't know. Is that wrong? No? No, no,

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, Chuck, that's the key. There's you enjoy it.

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>There's no wrong. Absolutely. But the origins of the Martini

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>are equally contentious because everyone thinks they invented it. There

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>was a drink in Martinez, California invented the Martini. There

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>was a place in California called Martinez, and they in Martinez,

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>they made a drink called the Martinez and they claimed

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>that the Martini came out of the Martinez, that they

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>are the inventors, but they're just one of several. Right,

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>there's another one that um said, it's just named after

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Martini and Rossi, the ver with makers. Does anyone else

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>make vermouth? Oh? Yeah, there's tons of other women. Why

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>is that the only one I ever see anywhere? I

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>guess marketing. Okay, man, it's the worst kind of vermouth too,

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh is it really? Yeah, like every other vermouth on

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the planet is better than Martini and Rossy. And that's

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the one that everybody knows is Martini and Rossy. I

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.399
<v Speaker 1>feel like a heel. No, no, you're fine, Okay, you're

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>fine if you enjoy Martini and Rossy, patronize me. I'm

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 1>getting you back for that one, dude. The West Coast, Yes,

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 1>we're on the West Coast drinking. What about the dacri? Yeah?

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>The dacari was invented in Cuba by an American who

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>was there working and mines and was bored and uh

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 1>went to a bar and said, you know what, don't

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you take some rum and some lime and some sugar

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 1>and mix that all up and let's make a drink. Uh,

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and let's call it a dacori. And that's how the

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>decor was born. Yeah. And then the first you know,

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>but making the rosen you take out of the freezer

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.959
<v Speaker 1>and put into a blender and put like a fifth

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>of romans get wasted. Um, that's the firm bar version.

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And your wife punches in. You get your acts and

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you gotta work. You can't work in on a blender

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 1>full of dacori, believe me. The Tom Collins has an

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>interesting history. Um, kind of dorky now, but in New

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>York in the eighteen hundreds, it was a big fun

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>joke to tell everyone that this guy at Tom Collins

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>has been talking about you. Yeah, because apparently, like just

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>going to a bar to drink wasn't amusing enough, Like

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>they had to jazz it up with hoaxes. You know,

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have ziggy stickers at the time, so there

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>was no Tom Collins. Of course it was just a

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 1>big hoax, but apparently, and it was a big laugh

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>back then to tell people that. So bartenders got the

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>idea like, hey, these people come around asking where it's

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>just Tom Collins. I gotta have a word with him.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>So let's make a drink called the Tom Collins. So

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>when they come in and ask for it, to serve

0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>it to him, and they have to give us money,

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>easy sail, easy peasy every time. What about um, the

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Mohito's anybody here like a mohito. I like a mohito too.

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>It's good like a mohito. It turns out the mohito

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>might be the oldest cocktail in the entire world. Yeah,

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:22.359
<v Speaker 1>it's what mint little sweetener. Right, that's a different drink.

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Actually it's a mint soda water, some sweetener and uh. Rum.

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 1>But originally the reason they put all this stuff because

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>these are pirates drinking this in the sixteenth century. Um.

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>And the reason they put all this stuff in was

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>because the stuff they were drinking was just kind of

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:47.320
<v Speaker 1>like a proto rum called taffia or agua gardie nice. Um.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It tasted so bad that you had to put all

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>this other stuff into it. Um. And so eventually they

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.959
<v Speaker 1>introduced copper stills to Cuba and started making like really

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>good rum there. But they were like, no, I still

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like the it and this sugar. Yeah, this is a

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>really delicious drink. So that's the mohito drink. Here in Canada,

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you have a drink called the Caesar, another popular morning drink,

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh man, they love the Caesar here a Canada.

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I know we had eight this morning. I have been

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>making those for years, unknowingly calling them bloody Mary's the

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>whole time I did. My friend taught me a recipe.

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>He taught me a recipe to had clomato in it,

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 1>and it was delicious, and so I was like, well,

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.879
<v Speaker 1>this is my bloody mary. It's with clomato. I did

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.399
<v Speaker 1>not know it was had a different name. It's I'm

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna call it a Caesar from now on because it

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>is delicious. It's pretty good, and I really it's it's

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>way better with the clomato to me than just regular

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>tomato drink. It's it's great despite its origins. Apparently, the

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>guy I think his name is Walter Chell, Yeah, from

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the Cold to re in Um. He went to Venice

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and tried a spaghetti dish. It was like, I want

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to drink that tastes like that, and he came up

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 1>with the Caesar, which you guys love, so you love

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>spaghetti in the glass? A clam dish basically, yeah, what

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>would be really good in this drink? Clams clamns. Yeah,

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it is a good drink. We just um, and then

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of course we figure you guys are probably beat us

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to death with your shoes if we didn't conclude this

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>podcast with a lengthy, lengthy discussion on Canadian whiskey, which

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you call rye, which we're big fans of actually, and

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in in Toronto for the first show that we did, um,

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>we said we're going to talk about Canadian whiskey, and

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 1>everybody went ry and we thought everybody's going why and

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>we we just like looked at each other, like, oh,

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>we just lost the crowd. This is not good. Somebody

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>would I thought they would love this. Yeah. Uh. It

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 1>turns out we finally everybody calmed down. One person basically

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.919
<v Speaker 1>raised their hand and and addressed you guys for us

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>and said, everyone's saying rye. We call it ry here,

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, okay, so just disregard the last like

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>forty five seconds of panic that you saw us go through.

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>So we understand how you guys call it rye, but

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>we call it Canadian whiskey. The first distillery here in

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Canada was open in Quebec City you may have heard

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of in seventeen sixty nine. That was number one, and

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>then by the eighteen forties there were over two hundred distilleries,

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>which is not too bad. You guys love making your

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>whiskey because you had people from Europe in Scotland and

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Ireland coming over and saying, we know how to make

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. We know how to spell it without the

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>e like the rest of those dummies. And that's why

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>you spell whiskey without the e was because of those immigrants.

0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And uh, a man named John Molson is credited. It's

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.919
<v Speaker 1>starting the first distillery in Canada, whiskey distillery. And and

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you're rye is very similar to our Bourbon, except the

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>process is different. Like both of them have corn, a

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of corn in them, a lot of malti barley,

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and then a little bit of rye. The differences in

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Bourbon County, Kentucky where they have the soberest elections in

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>the country. Um, ironically, ironically, Uh, they take the the

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>corn and the rye and the barley and they ferment

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and distill it and age it together. You guys take

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>your barley and your corn and your rye and you

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>make liquor out of them, and then you bring them

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 1>together at the end, which is why rye is a

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>blended whiskey like Scotch. Actually, yeah, apparently the rye part

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>of it is the smallest grain, the smallest amount of

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>grain that they use. But it provides the most flavors.

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's why you call it right and

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>so um, during the Civil War, our our civil war,

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>when our our country was torn asunder, you guys were

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>totally fine. Um, we were busy fighting. We weren't our

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>forefathers were. Um, the Clarks were killing the Bryant's. Yeah,

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel really bad. It's all good. So during the

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Civil War, during the Civil War, our our distilleries shut down, like,

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 1>we're like, we have other things to focus on, um,

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 1>but we still need booze. So Canada said, we got

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 1>plenty of it here, you guys go. And after the

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Civil War, Um, when our distilleries went back online, there

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>was an enormous amount of competition still because everybody loved

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you're rye. You know, we're like, I just got my

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 1>leg amputated, give me some more of that stuff. And

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>you guys were more than happy to oblige, so much

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>so that the American distillers were like, Congress, we need

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you to step in and do something about this. And

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Congress did They said any No, it's true, they said,

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>any any booze that's manufactured outside of the United States

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>has to have his country of origin on the label.

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 1>So in eighteen ninety a very very popular whiskey from

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Canada called Club Whiskey became Canadian Club. I'm still around

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>today because of a law, because of us, because of

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>our Congress. Thank you, that's right. And uh, Canadian Club

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 1>remained super popular still to this day. And in the

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.959
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties. One of the reasons. One of their cool

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>little advertising tricks was that had this cool campaign called

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 1>hide a Case n sixty seven. They said, Hey, you

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 1>know what we'll do. Well, let's appeal to the rich

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 1>drunks of the world and let's hide a case of

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 1>whiskey in some remote area and leave clues and magazines.

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 1>And the rich drunk said that this is fantastic something

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to do with my time. I've been wanting a free

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>case of Canadian Club for a long time. I want

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to spend fifty dollars finding that street case. So they

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>hit them in places like Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa, the

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Great Barrier, reef Uh, Angel Falls, Venezuela, and um they

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.359
<v Speaker 1>hit I think the last one in nine the last

0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>one in nineteen eighty. They hit in Washington, d C. Yeah,

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>From nineteen sixty five to nineteen eighty they hit twenty

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>five cases and it didn't go quite according to plan um.

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the first case that they hit at Kilimanjaro

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>was found by accident like ten years later. He's like

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy just tripped over again. He's like, oh, case

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the Canadian Club is here, some rases, I guess it's mine.

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking good fortune, so U. And then the last one,

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>by nineteen eighty, they kind of given up on the

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. It was in Washington, d C. And I

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>think they let the people who found it watched them

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 1>just set it down and back away, and they just

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>walked up. They're like, hi to case, catch the fever.

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But the cool thing is is there's a bunch of

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.760
<v Speaker 1>them out there that have never been found, still hidden.

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>So there any rich drunks out there with some with

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the passport and some spare time. There's some whiskey that

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you could buy at the store, or you could just

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of money and go out and try

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and find it. Right, And that's all we found out

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>about Canadian whiskey. You got anything else, man, I'm just

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.640
<v Speaker 1>glad that people can see your jazz hands lives because

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>we're doing a lot. He does that in the studio

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 1>for me, and I'm just like, I wasn't even thinking

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>about that. Did you bring a listener mail? Uh? No, sir, No, Okay,

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll have to double one in later. Sorry. Someone prepared

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>one to hand to like one of the paper airplane

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 1>of the listener mail. They can find people throw stuff

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 1>up here. Um, so I guess we'll wrap it up.

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:07.439
<v Speaker 1>There's more story. Everybody treats us in store. Um, if

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.360
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0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.879
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0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.120
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0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.759
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