1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house Stuff 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant Lives and by 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: fogs hany stander planning? Oh yeah, bad's the good stuff? 5 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Can qua rap for everyone? Alright? Good man? Yeah, I 6 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: have to say alcohol makes a difference in the energy level, 7 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: a huge difference. Popcorn popcorn and diet coke just does 8 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: not cut it. Now. Uh So we're here today, hanging out, 9 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: just doing our thing, and I have a question for you. 10 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: All right, Chuck, have you ever been to a bar? Yes? Yeah, yeah, 11 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: I know you have. That was this set up? Um? 12 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Did you realize though, that while you were at this bar, 13 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: you were in one of the oldest businesses known to 14 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: human kind? The oldest profession. No, not the oldest profession. 15 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: This is the oldest business known to human kind. One 16 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: of bars have been around a very long time, they have, 17 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: but not as long, it turns out, as alcohol does 18 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: anybody who's listening to our How Beer Works episode. It's 19 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: entirely possible that bread was invented as a starter for beer, 20 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: which is pretty awesome. I mean, that makes humanity as 21 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: a whole, like a pretty awesome species. Um. The thing was, 22 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: booze was around for a very long time before bars, 23 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: So there wasn't a place where you just went to 24 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: go drink. You just drank everywhere you went pretty much. Yeah. 25 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: You literally like you could drink at work, you could 26 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: drink at school. There would be meetings and civic meetings. 27 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: You would drink there. But there wasn't an establishment with 28 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: four walls set up just for drinking at this point, right, 29 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: You would drink it like this Saturday night ritual sacrifice 30 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: or something like yeah, as you do. Yeah. And so 31 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the first bars then that really kind of pop up 32 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: are around the turn of not this past millennia, but 33 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: the one before. And you can find them in Italy 34 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: in a place called Pompeii. And these aren't necessarily the 35 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: oldest bars in the world, but they are one of 36 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: the earliest established bars. And they were basically, um, hot 37 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: snack bars. They're called it sounds gross there, it does 38 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: hot snacks. Hot snacks. Yeah. Well it's like you know, 39 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: chicken wings or poutine is a hot snack. That's a 40 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: hot snack. That's the hottest snack. That's yeah, because they 41 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: took a hot snack and then poured hot gravy. And 42 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: what is a cheese that's hot? Right? That's hot? Uh? 43 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: You know this was more like I imagine hot olives hot. 44 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, hot tomatoes. The point is that there 45 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: was there was wine at these places, right. And actually, 46 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: if you've ever been to Bombay Pompeii um as I have, 47 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: you can see these places. They're like bars or countertops 48 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: with holes cut out, and they put like jugs of olives, 49 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: poutine and wine and stuff. And you would go down 50 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: to this this area and hang out and drink and 51 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: hang out with your neighbors. And sure like, look at 52 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: malt pvesuvius over there. It isn't it lovely? I think 53 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: it's ever gonna do it that. We're good. Don't be ridiculous. 54 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: You were drunk. So again, the an't these are the 55 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: earliest bars, but they're among the earliest um. And the 56 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: Romans were really kind of big with bars. In home itself, 57 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: there were lots of bars like there were in vesuvious Um. 58 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: But the Romans also did something else that led to 59 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: the spread of bars, and they built roads. Well, first 60 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: of all, they conquered the world and then they built roads, 61 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and along these roads there were inns for travelers, and 62 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: in the ends there were bars. Yeah, because if you 63 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: were tradesman on a Roman road that it was scary 64 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: at night you might get mugged and killed. So they 65 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: would do their trading and traveling during the day and 66 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: then they would stay in these ends at night. And 67 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: just like modern American business travelers, what else do you 68 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: do when you're on the road like that, You got 69 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: to the hotel bar and you drink your face off. 70 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: And that's what the tradesmen did in ancient Rome. You 71 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 1: celebrate not getting murdered that day on the Roman road. 72 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: I traded some spices, I didn't get killed, So bring 73 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: them the gropp up exactly. And um, so out of 74 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: this came the taverns, the ends, the pubs, like they 75 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: basically said, that's great, you've gotten in, but we've got 76 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: a little town and we could use a couple more, 77 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: but we don't need in, so let's just stick to 78 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: the to the bar part those are, that's how those 79 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: evolved out of there. But um, the oldest bar in 80 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: the world probably it's definitely the oldest bar in Ireland, 81 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: but it could possibly be Guinnesses investigating as we speak 82 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: to the oldest bar in the world right now. Um, 83 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: it's called Shawn's. Has anyone ever heard of Shawn's in Athlone, Ireland. 84 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: You've been there, it sounds pretty neat. He's part of it. 85 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: That's enough to cheer. Um it was. It was founded 86 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: in a nine d c and actual, real live, no joke. 87 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: Vikings used to get wasted there and this place is 88 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: still around, Like you can go get wasted where the 89 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Vikings got wasted, which is pretty amazing. I guess they 90 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: would They would eat mushrooms and then kill people all 91 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: the way. They would go berserk, remember that. So the 92 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: coolest thing about Shawn's actually is, um, it predates the 93 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: town that it's in now. It used to be for 94 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years just Shawn's Bar and this 95 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: old Roman road. And apparently people got tired of like 96 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: having to drive home after getting wasted at shawn so 97 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: they just built their houses around it. And that's where 98 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: the town of athlo And, Ireland came from. That's true, 99 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: and uh, it's interesting fact. That's not true. Interesting fact 100 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: about Shawn's Bar. In nineteen seven it was owned by 101 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: boy George. Yeah, the boy George, not the one you 102 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: were thinking of. Boy George. Yeah, I guess you. I 103 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: don't know. He thought it was a safe investment. It 104 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: had been there for you know that many years. But 105 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: he got out of it. He's like, nah, I think 106 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: he went broke. Someone in the first show said he 107 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: went broke. It's well, that's mean, yeah, but it could 108 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: be true. Yeah, I think it's true. So we did 109 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: a little research on your town and we were very 110 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised to find that, you know, your town was 111 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: founded on a bar, right, y'all know that gassy Jack. 112 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: That's right, Gassie Jack. Within twenty four hours of landing 113 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: and founding gas Town, Gassy Jack built a bar. That's 114 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: the first thing he did. He's like, I'm gonna have 115 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: a town. He woke up the next day. I went, 116 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna build a bar. Yeah. And he built the globe, 117 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: which is not there. It's it's It was at the 118 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: corner of Walter and Carroll Streets. I think in Gastown 119 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: a water live corrections, so water and Carol. Hey, I said, Carol, right, 120 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: come on, give me some points there. Well, the way 121 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: I look at it is we just say that these 122 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: people from having the email us right, it's Walter. This 123 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: is actually kind of efficient. Yeah, this is cool. Should 124 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: just do every show live. So there's there's a there's 125 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: a statue of Gassy Jack and um, and we think 126 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: very highly of him because of the fact that he 127 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: built a bar. But he did things back and we 128 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: found out it's not gassy like you think that it 129 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: was gassy because it was talkative. Did you guys know 130 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: that boring? Yeah? I was all pumped up. I was like, 131 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: this guy farted a lot and it's like, just let 132 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: that name. He was clearly proud of it because he 133 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: let them erect a statue that says gassy Jay. It 134 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: was just because he talked a lot. And they do 135 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: have a statue there right, Yeah, at Water and Carroll Streets. 136 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: So Vancouver itself would have older bars than it does 137 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: if like Atlanta where we're from. Uh, it hadn't burned down. 138 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: Uh And what was that eighty six? Quickly rebuilt of 139 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: course because you're a strong city. But um, in Victoria 140 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: we have the six Mile Pub eighty six not too shabby, 141 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: not to ship and Garrick said, pub also in Victoria 142 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty seven, except that it's not bad as far 143 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: as old as drinking establishments go. No. But uh, guessie 144 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Jack kind of thwarted convention by building the bar first 145 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: and then the hotel because that whole tradition of having 146 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: a bar in a hotel survived long past the Roman Roads. Yes, 147 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: there were pubs and taverns and everything, but that didn't 148 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: mean that there weren't bars in hotels any longer. Um, 149 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: and that made its way over to the New world, 150 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: which is here, that's all of us, and and along 151 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: the way. One of the reasons why this whole custom 152 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: and and um tradition made its way over was because 153 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: you could make a lot of money being a bartender 154 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: because you probably owned the bar, you probably owned the 155 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: end that the bar was in, and you're probably making 156 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: the booze that you were selling, so you were just 157 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: making bank. So they the bartenders actually were a among 158 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: the wealthiest of the socioeconomics states. Yeah, they were, you know, 159 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: the upper tier of society exactly. Uh, in America, we 160 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: have the same thing, like Josha. We had ends that 161 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: had the bars. But then in eighteen thirty two, the U. S. 162 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: Congress said, you know what, let's pass a law. Let's 163 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: call it the pioneer in in Tavern law, And let's 164 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: just say you don't have to stay in the hotel 165 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: to get drunk there. You can just come in, get 166 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: south and get on your horse and and crash it 167 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: on the way home. I guess somebody just clapped for 168 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: the pioneer in in Tavern. Liley. Yes, we won't stay here, right, 169 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: But it was a cool on and it changed everything 170 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden you could just have a 171 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: bar in a place where you can just go drink. Yeah. 172 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: And the industrial age changed everything too, because place like 173 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: say New York City became this this beacon for immigrants 174 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: to come to and and be skilled laborers and working factories. 175 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,239 Speaker 1: And they brought with them their love of of bars, 176 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: and they said, what the hell is going on with 177 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: this town? Like where are all your bars? We want 178 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: to bar here? Bar there, Bar there, bar there? We 179 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: want to bar there? Where are all your bars? We 180 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: know how to make whiskey too, which exactly like like 181 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: just leave it to us, we'll open the bars. Um. 182 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: And very quickly bars sprouted in neighborhoods and became customary, 183 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: like pretty much overnight in the United States. Yeah, and 184 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: they were because sort of like they are now in 185 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: like the best towns are the center of civic life. 186 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: There were where people congregated. It was the center of politics. 187 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: In fact, back in the day, it was untoward to 188 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: actually have legitimate advertisements and political campaigns. That was no good. 189 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: What you could do is get everyone loaded on election day. 190 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: And they even had a name for it, which was 191 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: swilling the planters with bumbo, and bumbo was a rum 192 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: and the planters were the voters. The voters and basically 193 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: whoever got the most people drunk on election day one 194 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: like almost literally that's the case, Yeah, which is pretty solid. George, 195 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: George Washington, who's the father of our country. He uh, 196 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: he made his first bid for the Virginia Legislature and 197 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: lost because he didn't he didn't cotton to that kind 198 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: of thing. Didn't swill the planners with bumbo. No, he 199 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: did not. And he learned his lesson because the next 200 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: time he ran for the legislature, he spent something like 201 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: eighty percent of his entire campaign fund on booze on 202 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: election day and he won big time. He figured it out, 203 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: that's right, and uh, to this day, well, it became 204 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: rife with corruption. Of course, anytime you're getting people drunk 205 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: to vote for you, eventually they're gonna evolve as a 206 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: nation and say, yeah, no, maybe that sounds such a 207 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: good idea, So let's outlaw drinking on election day altogether. 208 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: And for many years that was the case. And in 209 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: a couple of states, South Carolina and Kentucky in America, 210 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: they still won't let you drink on election day. Yeah, 211 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: the bars were closed, which is weird and archaic. And 212 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: it's on a Tuesday, which is strange. But they have 213 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: like really efficient quick elections just over and everybody's like, 214 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: let's get this over with. The bars are closed, this 215 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: is awful. Yes, you're elected, they do. They're drinking at home. 216 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: I think on election day probably we'll be back to 217 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: stuff you should know. Live in Vancouver, right, Josh, right, 218 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: hold your horses, everybody, you know, buddy. 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But his name was 254 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Erasmus Willard, and he worked at the City Hotel in 255 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: New York and he was famous. He had two really 256 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: meat traits that turns out to be a celebrity bartender. 257 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: He's ambidextrous, and he had a photographic memory, so he 258 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: could make drinks with both hands and recognize your face 259 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: as you're coming in the door and be making your 260 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: drink with one hand and recognize his face and then 261 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: we say his Because only men were allowed in bars 262 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: at this point, by the way, it's right, ladies, it 263 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: gets better, it gets better, get better with us. Eventually 264 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: women could go to bars. I don't know if you 265 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: knew that. So Harasmus Willard was the first dude, and 266 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: he sort of paved the way. He was known as 267 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: the best known man in the city, and he paid 268 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: the way for Josh's hero, my hero Jerry Thomas. Yeah, 269 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: come on, give it up for Cheritos. So Jerry Thomas 270 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: like that guy. Yeah, everybody's like, you can tell us 271 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: more about him? Why is it your hero? Later? Explain? 272 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: They're always asking us to explain. Um, Jerry Thomas was 273 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: this dude who was flamboyant. Yeah, yeah, I'd like to 274 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: say he had a little little liberace and um, you know, 275 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: definitely he would tend very flashy. He would tend bar 276 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: with like diamond rings on both hands, diamond stickpin and 277 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: his tie. Uh literally a rat on each shoulder while 278 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: he's tending bar. And this guy rats and this guy 279 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: his signature drink was called the Blue Blazer, which was 280 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: Scotch and I think a little bit of sugar and 281 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: some water, but you would pour it from wine glass 282 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: to wineglass on fire with rats on your shoulders and 283 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: diamonds sparkling in the flames and like this is Erry Thomas, 284 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: which is pretty awesome. Like that in and of itself 285 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: warrants mentioned, you know, hundred and fifty years later. But 286 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: he also had the brains and the creativity to back 287 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: it up. And basically, in Jerry Thomas, you have everything 288 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: that we know about cocktails and drinking and going to 289 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: a bar in this one dude's person. Yeah. He you know, 290 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: he Barten in New York for a while, had his 291 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: own place, and then the Civil War started and he 292 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: was like, I don't like all this killing of each 293 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: other's thing, So I'm gonna go out west and do 294 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: my thing out there for a while. And you teld 295 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: me when that Civil war is over, and I'll come 296 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: back to New York. But you did. He spent some 297 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: time out west, and yeah, and Saloons, I guess, applying 298 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: as trade and that's right West Coast, and uh, that 299 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: is a place you just got pandered to. The West 300 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: Coast is a thing, and that's right West Coast. Good job, 301 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: and that what they do that works? I think that's 302 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: East Side. I thought it was this early on. I 303 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: was so bad at it. This is this is West Coast, clearly, right. 304 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: So he goes back to New York and he says, uh, 305 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna write a book I'm gonna 306 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna spread the joy of my craft. It's gonna 307 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: take like everything that he's learned through his travels, all 308 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: the inventions he made, and puts it into a book. Yeah, 309 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: all the way back in eighteen sixty two. It's really 310 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: the first bartenders guide ever. Uh, you should do the 311 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: honors here because it's the greatest book title. Well, there's 312 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: three titles. It's called The Bartender's Guide, or How to 313 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: Mix Drinks or the bomba Bants Companion. I like companion, 314 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: that's for sure, especially when you're like wearing diamonds on 315 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: both hands and rats on your shoulders. It's the bomb 316 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: of Ants Companion. So he had a lot of flash, 317 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: we said, and not necessarily, Uh, the other bartenders that 318 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: followed in his footups footsteps didn't really necessarily go that far. 319 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: But what he did do was he provided craftsmanship and 320 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: artisanship to bartending for the first time, and he was 321 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: the first guy to really So you know, you should 322 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: take pride in what you're doing here and making a 323 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: good drink. Yeah, and dress up. We'll kill you to 324 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: dress up a little bit, but I kill you to 325 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: put a rat on your shoulder for once. So they 326 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: don't bite much. Uh so, well, and we'll talk a 327 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: little more about Jerry Thomas and what he did. But 328 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: while he's working, this is like the boon the hey Day, 329 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: the initial boon of drinking. Basically before then everybody drank 330 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: and they drank all the time. But this is like 331 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: going and getting a drink was a cool thing. You know, 332 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: it's legit. But if you listen closely, while Jerry Thomas 333 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: is mixing his blue Blazer, there's a drumbeat in the background, 334 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: and if you listen, it sounds really like stupid and 335 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: wrong minded, and and if you really focus it on it, 336 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: you realize it's the drum beat of the temperance movement, 337 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: which managed to get prohibition passed, not just a hard country, 338 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: but in your country. Yes, let's all booth the Temperance movement. 339 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: What a bad idea. And the Canadians knew it was 340 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: a bad idea way before we did, because you had 341 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: prohibition for a very short time, and this sucks. It's 342 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: just stupid with you had it for a couple of 343 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: years during wartime from I think nine and nineteen twenty. 344 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: It was provincial otherwise, but you had a very nice 345 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Canadian loophole. If you have an ailment, you could get booze. 346 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: You could go to even during prohibition, you could go 347 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: to the doctor and say, Doc, I got I got 348 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: the I got the shapes, I got the shakes. I 349 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: need's the booze bad? I got the I got the six, 350 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: I got the I got the cold, I got the 351 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy lings. I'm awake, Doc, I'm awake, Just give me 352 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: some foods. And then Doc would be like, yeah, you 353 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: had to. Day was a boost and uh in Ontario 354 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: in one year in anyone have a guest on how 355 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: many prescriptions for booze just in Ontario? Everyone? Where do 356 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: you want? What do you say? Four hundred thousand? No, double, 357 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: it's eight hundred and ten thousand. People were so sick 358 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: that they needed both in one year, just in Ontario. 359 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: So we were really impressed by that number. So, as 360 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: as is our usual want, we went and looked at 361 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: the Canadian Census and we found that eight hundred and 362 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: ten thousand, the number of prescriptions in that one year 363 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: in Ontario alone, was one tenth the entire population of Canada. 364 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: And we're like, wow, the numbers really head up. Canada 365 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: is pretty cool like that's when it really broke on us. 366 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: We're like, all right, you were a very sickly people. 367 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: We needed build better. Uh. And it is funny to 368 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: see a play out all these years later with the 369 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: marijuana clinics. It's like, it's the same thing. I got 370 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: the sis, I'm awake, I got the shakes. Oh you 371 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: need some marijuana. I don't eat enough. You have the 372 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: neuropaths here right, Like you can just walk in and 373 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: and talk to a dude, a neuropath, and they'll say, oh, well, 374 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: you clearly need some marijuana. So this is a very 375 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: dark time, not only for bartending as a craft because 376 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: it was just sorting to become like a legitimate thing 377 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: and respectable thing, but for booze period. Prohibition was bad 378 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: because there were a lot of bars, but they just 379 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: weren't legal. I think they were twice the number of 380 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: prohibition pars that there were legal bars. Yeah. There in 381 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: the US there were thirty thousand speakeasies, which was twice 382 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: the number of legally licensed bars before prohibition was clearly working. 383 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: So clearly prohibition was just a great idea all around, 384 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: because the mob was like, yes, come here, we can 385 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: take care of you just look for the green door 386 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: and you'll find a speakeasy. Yeah, and uh it was 387 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: bad for bartending though, because whoever the bartender was was 388 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: who was the guy who could get the booze, and 389 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: who could get the booze didn't necessarily know anything about booze, 390 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: for one, or making good drinks, and it wasn't necessarily 391 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: good booze. Like it would literally kill you or or 392 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: um strike you blind. You heard the saying abot this 393 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: will make it go blind. It's really made people go blind, 394 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: like to a lot of people. That's where the phrase 395 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: comes from. There was there was a batch of industrial 396 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: alcohol that I guess the US government thought was going 397 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: to fall into the hands of bootleggers, which it did. Um, 398 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: so they decided to poison it and a lot of 399 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: people died, and the American government was like and like 400 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: walked away. It's not it's not very much talked about. 401 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: We found out about it, so we're like telling everybody 402 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: is that is messed up? But I think in uh, 403 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: what is it chuck alone? People died from bad liquor, 404 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: and that's not including people who are paralyzed or struggle. Yeah, 405 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: what that means actually just occurred to me. That means 406 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand people died, and twenty five thousand more 407 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: people were still like, I'm gonna give it a shot, 408 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: all right, what are the chances, you know, anything to 409 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: take care of the jimmy legs? Yeah, I got the shakes. 410 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: So the other cool thing about prohibition is since all 411 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: the rules are out the door, basically women said I'm 412 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: going to a bar and you're not gonna stop me. 413 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I've come a long way, baby, So women were now 414 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: congregating in bars, and men all of a sudden went, 415 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: this is great. I don't know why we never allowed 416 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: women in here, because we've just been getting drunk by 417 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: ourselves and sort of looking at each other and going 418 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: home at the end of the night. And that's sort 419 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: of weird, which, which, as we'll get to, eventually became 420 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: a tradition at bars. That's right, call me home alone. 421 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: But at least there were women now and they were 422 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: getting south right along with the guys. Right. Great, But 423 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: it was because there weren't any rules. It was like 424 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: a speakeasy was operating illegally. So a woman would come 425 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: to the door and be like, what are you gonna 426 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: not let me in, you know, like you're not even 427 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be serving booze anyway. Yeah, and there's another 428 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: unbelievable fact here that Josh dug up that I still 429 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: take issue with. Apparently, up until the nineteen eighties and Alberta, 430 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: where is that that way? This way? Is that? Easter's 431 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: that way? Apparently in Alberta they had laws on the 432 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: books and up until the nineteen eighties that still were 433 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: gender specific with bars. I know, hey, man, we're pretty 434 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: telling you guys about it. We didn't create the laws. Well, 435 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: I think it might have been. I don't know if 436 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: it was in Forest. Surely not, because they had the 437 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: sixties in the seventies too, right, catching up toward the eights. 438 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: So prohibition happens, right, and um, everybody's like that was 439 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: a really bad idea. Let's never do that again, let's 440 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: repeal it, and um oh, let's go to war. So 441 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: World War two happened, and that actually had a pretty 442 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: significant effect on bars too. Apparently up here they sent 443 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: all of your guys over to Europe to fight, and 444 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: your guys came back and said, there are these pubs 445 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: in Europe that are awesome, so let's build them. Everywhere. 446 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: And then after that, like, yeah, we got the pubs. 447 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: How about some sports bars too, Let's mix those in 448 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. And that's pretty much how things went 449 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: for a while in Canada. In the US, um our 450 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: guys apparently all went to the South Pacific and came 451 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: back and we're like tiki culture, and tiki was huge 452 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: in the United States. Not a fan here. I don't 453 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: understand this at all, Like, how do you not like tiki? 454 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: There's like fun uh shirts right, All the drinks are good, 455 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: very very easty stuff. Uh. The restaurants that you go 456 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: to to drink are fun. It's just nice. Yeah, I'm 457 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: a pub guy. I don't I don't see why you 458 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: have to differentiates anyway. So that's how things were in 459 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: the US and Canada until there's a very dark time 460 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: that settled over the land. Not as dark as Prohibition, 461 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: but pretty close. And this was the age of the 462 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: fern bar. Does anyone know what a fern bar is? 463 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that? You know, how you 464 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: go to Red Robin and there's like tiffany lamps and 465 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: like terrible drinks and all that stuff. Well, you can 466 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: thank the invention of the fern bar for that, Like, 467 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: have you ever seen a Three's company? Remember the Regal 468 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: That was a firm bar and in the seventies they 469 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: were all the rage. Yeah, there was a guy in 470 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: San Francisco and he went by the name of Henry 471 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: Africa because that's a super fun name. His real name 472 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: was Norman hob Day and he opened his bar Henry 473 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: Africa's because Norman hobb Days is this really bad name 474 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: for a bar as well. Plus also he apparently all 475 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: the time wore safari gear in like a helmet. Yeah, 476 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: And so he went by Henry Africa and Jerry Thomas 477 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: were sort of similar. I think they were both flamboyant. 478 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: One ruined things, one did great things back. So he 479 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: opened up Henry Africa's. There was another one in San 480 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Francisco too in the early uh it was a yeah 481 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies and name is called Perry's. And 482 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: they were like, you know what, let's get rid of 483 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: these classy oak dark bars that everyone loves because they're awesome, 484 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: and let's put in ferns and tippany lamps and fat 485 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: chairs and let's bring the lights up and let's serve 486 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: nasty drinks mixed and machines nasty from bags of mixed 487 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: chemical flavored things. Yeah, and I have an idea. This 488 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: is gonna make us a million bucks. I'm gonna make 489 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: a gun that shoots soda, water and orange juice out 490 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: of the same thing. And everyone apparently said, it's the 491 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: seventies who cares about anything. Let's go this way for 492 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: the firm bars. They did, true, and it was the 493 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: sexual revolution. So the ladies that were already going to 494 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: bars now felt like, Hey, I'm in a bar and 495 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: I can be like a more aggressive all of a sudden, 496 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's the hip happening times. I'm Diane Keaton. 497 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: I can That's what they said to themselves. I can 498 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: look for Mr Goodbar and uh and and and have 499 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: a drink and go meet a man. Uh. I'd like 500 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to was it was my lady from the 501 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: seventies impression. I have to see Mr Goodbar looking searching 502 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: for Mr Goodbar, looking for Mr One. Has nobody ever 503 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: seen that movie? Oh my god, that was a pity clap. 504 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: They don't have Diane Keaton in Canada. Have you seen it? 505 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: I think my threes company references way more well received better, 506 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: But the point is you could bad drinks in these bars, 507 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: and it's sort of a dark time for the craft 508 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: of bartending. Like the Bahama Mama, the Kama Kazi um, 509 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: the sides. Yeah, the Harvey Wallbanger, which apparently was so 510 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: popular it had its own mascot. It was like, uh, 511 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: basically a drunken version of Ziggy just wandering around and 512 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: I guess like you would get a sticker or something 513 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: if you ordered a Harvey Wallbanger. This is the level 514 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: of thought people were putting into drinks. If you just 515 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: sell the drink, you give a sticker out, then that's 516 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: that's not a place you want to be in. Especially 517 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Ziggy with like exces for eyes. Pretty much changed my mind. 518 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: I think have like one of those inclines coming off 519 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: of them is kind of nice. I'll get you one 520 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: for Christmas. They have the money bay. So this is 521 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: the way things were going for a while, uh, until 522 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: this very faithful meeting between this guy named Dale de 523 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: Groff and a dude who owned a restaurant and he 524 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: wanted to Grof to set up a bar for him. 525 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: And he said, you know what, I don't want this 526 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: usual firm bar crud. This is awful, this New York City, Like, 527 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: we gotta do this, right, Yeah, let's let's get back 528 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: to basics. And he tossed Dale de Groff a book, 529 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: a very important book. What book, the Bomby Box Companion 530 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: from eighteen sixty two. Everything came full circle. Yeah, and 531 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: Dale de Groff was like, this is amazing. We can 532 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: bring craftsmanship back into bartending. Unlet's use real ingredients. Let's 533 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: get rid of these stupid swirly mixing machines and these 534 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: bags of chemical fruit flavored things, and let's use real fruit, 535 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: because there is such a thing as real fruit, and 536 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: we should put it in drinks again, like in the 537 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, right, And that's what they did, and the 538 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: bar was saved. So when you go to like the 539 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: Cascade Room or the Diamond or I don't know if 540 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: you guys have been to Boulevard, I know it's like 541 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: pretty new. But if you finally do go and you 542 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: enjoy a cocktail there, we did our search, uh, and 543 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: I hope that was dead on because we I really 544 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: put us out there just then. But if you go 545 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: to a place where there's a decent cocktail and somebody's 546 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: really putting thought into it, you can thank this Dale 547 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: Degrof guy for bringing it all back, but really you 548 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: should thank Jerry Thomas to tell you the truth. Now, 549 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: do you understand why he's my hero? See? They love 550 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: Jerry Thomas. But let's talk a little more about him. Right. So, 551 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: like at the bars is, they're evolving and bartenders are evolving. 552 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: They're going from diamond studded to you know, just normal um. 553 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Cocktails are evolving too. Like early on, basically everybody made 554 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: their own booze and they had it in a jug 555 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: with three X is on it and they just turned 556 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: it up and that was like their cocktail. It's how 557 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: they drank. Yeah, like chuck yeah, based turned the three 558 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: X jug out. Um. And then when when Jerry Thomas 559 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: came on the scenes, like we can do better than this. 560 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: There's some cool ingredients that I want to kind of 561 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: mess with and create new stuff. So originally there were punches, 562 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: which is a huge bowl of hot booze that everybody 563 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: drank from the bumbo that the planners swilled. Right. Then 564 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: there was a toddy, which apparently from what I can gather, 565 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: it is just like a single serving hot punch, right, 566 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: And then there were slings and slings were the ones 567 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: that had the most promised. Those became what we understand 568 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: now as cocktails. They were basically booze um, a little 569 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: bit of water, a little bit of sugar and then 570 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: maybe some fruit juice. And Jerry Thomas looks at the 571 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: sling and he goes, I can do something with this, 572 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: and he creates what's called the Baroque Age of cocktails, 573 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: where there's just like this great experimentation going on. Nobody 574 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: knows what the hell anybody else is doing, but everybody's 575 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: trying new stuff and um. All of these The foundation 576 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: for what we know now as cocktails came out of Thera. Yeah, 577 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: and the first cocktail was mentioned in print the word 578 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: in eighteen o three in Amherst, New Hampshire, with the 579 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: slogan it's excellent for the head because it was a 580 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: morning drink. It was you were supposed to drink a cocktail. 581 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: That's where it comes from, the rooster cocktail, that's where 582 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: the word comes from. And if you drank too much 583 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: of the night before, you would get up in the 584 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: morning and make your little fizzy cocktail drink with bitters, 585 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: and it was it's like the hair of the dog 586 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: that with some of us know and love. You would 587 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: drink your cocktail, get punched in the face by your wife, 588 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: pick up your acts, and go back out there and 589 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: work another day. That's what they used to do. Jerry 590 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: Thomas said, you know what, I love the morning cocktail 591 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: as much as anybody else. But why can't we keep 592 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: drinking throughout the day? Let me see if I can 593 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: mess with this. I save alcoholism for the morning. So 594 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: through this Baroque era of drink making, it was very 595 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: very nuanced, like you would have like a sour, and 596 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: a sour was just booze citrus and a little bit 597 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: of sweetener usually maybe be curius how or something like that, 598 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: and then you would change that dramatically by adding soda, 599 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you had a fizz 600 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: or if you wanted to use um booze a little 601 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: bit of grenadine I think, or was it curius how 602 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: sweetener and um brandy or something, you would have a daisy. 603 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: And then in Mexico they added tequila to the daisy, 604 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: and in um Spanish daisy is margarita, So that's where 605 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: the margarita came from. Around this time, I got some 606 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: margarita fans out there. Huh So Jerry Thomas was very influential, 607 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: but he was Uh, if you ever pick up a 608 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: copy of the Bombay Companion and try and read this thing, 609 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: it's it doesn't translate that crate to today's um proportions, 610 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: Like what is a glug like literally like three glugs 611 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: of this and a pinch of that, and uh, well, 612 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: I guess pinches easy enough, but well no, I still 613 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: don't understand pinch. I mean, yeah, it makes sense, but 614 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: what if you're like, that's that's a lot more than 615 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: it's a good point. So it took like cocktail historians, 616 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: uh to to kind of read the thing and bring 617 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: it into the modern era because back then, sugar came 618 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: in a big loaf, and sugar wasn't like refined like 619 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: it is today, and ice, you know, was had a 620 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: big deal chip it away exactly how you wanted to, 621 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: And so it took cocktail historians to really kind of 622 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: translate all this stuff right, and they did, and along 623 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: the way, Jerry Thomas dies, but he creates his great 624 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: body of work that's added to over time, and then 625 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: eventually we come to like the streamlined classic cocktails that 626 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: we have today. Like the Martini or the Manhattan and 627 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: all of this was from the work of these like 628 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: wonderful genius people who are like fighting on the front 629 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: lines against the temperance movement and making life better for 630 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: every hero heroes, real heroes, you know, shirking out of 631 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: like the Civil War and all that stuff, just doing 632 00:36:53,600 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: God's work basically. And the Martini. We're gonna talk about 633 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: some of these classic cocktails and martini. Uh if anyone 634 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: here drinks martinis, it's always any Martini things. I love Martini, 635 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: says the guy with the PBR, and it's hand some 636 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: Martinis right now. I'm just gonna put these back in 637 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: my helmet and drink them from my stall. So the Martini, 638 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: if you've ever had a Martini, it's very dependent on 639 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: the individual on how exactly you like it. Everyone says 640 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: that that they like make the perfect martini, but the 641 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: ratio for removed the gin and uh no, no no, 642 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: I make the perfect Martini Si. Everyone thinks that make 643 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: how do you make it? Okay? I use um two 644 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: to three ounces? Okay, I used three o three like 645 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: Scotch over three three ounces of gin and half an 646 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: ounce of uh stir itt. Some crushed ice because it 647 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: gets cold or faster. It's way better strain it. Um. Sometimes, 648 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: if you want to get a little crazy and you 649 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: want to go original, the Martini is actually supposed to 650 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: have orange bitters in it. A couple of dashes of 651 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: orange bitters. Yeah, you say what, and it seems weird, 652 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: but you don't taste the orange. It just does something 653 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: different to it. And then a couple of all of us, 654 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: all right, Martin, all of juice, I drinklin journey. Do 655 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: you do you really drink your sturdy? Oh yeah, I 656 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: like it. It's salty. I don't know. Is that wrong? No? No, no, 657 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: that's the thing, Chuck, that's the key. There's you enjoy it. 658 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: There's no wrong. Absolutely. But the origins of the Martini 659 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: are equally contentious because everyone thinks they invented it. There 660 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: was a drink in Martinez, California invented the Martini. There 661 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: was a place in California called Martinez, and they in Martinez, 662 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: they made a drink called the Martinez and they claimed 663 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: that the Martini came out of the Martinez, that they 664 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: are the inventors, but they're just one of several. Right, 665 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: there's another one that um said, it's just named after 666 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: Martini and Rossi, the ver with makers. Does anyone else 667 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: make vermouth? Oh? Yeah, there's tons of other women. Why 668 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: is that the only one I ever see anywhere? I 669 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: guess marketing. Okay, man, it's the worst kind of vermouth too, 670 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: Oh is it really? Yeah, like every other vermouth on 671 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: the planet is better than Martini and Rossy. And that's 672 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: the one that everybody knows is Martini and Rossy. I 673 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: feel like a heel. No, no, you're fine, Okay, you're 674 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: fine if you enjoy Martini and Rossy, patronize me. I'm 675 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: getting you back for that one, dude. The West Coast, Yes, 676 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: we're on the West Coast drinking. What about the dacri? Yeah? 677 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: The dacari was invented in Cuba by an American who 678 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: was there working and mines and was bored and uh 679 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: went to a bar and said, you know what, don't 680 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: you take some rum and some lime and some sugar 681 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: and mix that all up and let's make a drink. Uh, 682 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: and let's call it a dacori. And that's how the 683 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: decor was born. Yeah. And then the first you know, 684 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: but making the rosen you take out of the freezer 685 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,959 Speaker 1: and put into a blender and put like a fifth 686 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: of romans get wasted. Um, that's the firm bar version. 687 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: And your wife punches in. You get your acts and 688 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: you gotta work. You can't work in on a blender 689 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: full of dacori, believe me. The Tom Collins has an 690 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: interesting history. Um, kind of dorky now, but in New 691 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: York in the eighteen hundreds, it was a big fun 692 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: joke to tell everyone that this guy at Tom Collins 693 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: has been talking about you. Yeah, because apparently, like just 694 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: going to a bar to drink wasn't amusing enough, Like 695 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: they had to jazz it up with hoaxes. You know, 696 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: they didn't have ziggy stickers at the time, so there 697 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: was no Tom Collins. Of course it was just a 698 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 1: big hoax, but apparently, and it was a big laugh 699 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: back then to tell people that. So bartenders got the 700 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: idea like, hey, these people come around asking where it's 701 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: just Tom Collins. I gotta have a word with him. 702 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: So let's make a drink called the Tom Collins. So 703 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: when they come in and ask for it, to serve 704 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: it to him, and they have to give us money, 705 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: easy sail, easy peasy every time. What about um, the 706 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: Mohito's anybody here like a mohito. I like a mohito too. 707 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: It's good like a mohito. It turns out the mohito 708 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: might be the oldest cocktail in the entire world. Yeah, 709 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: it's what mint little sweetener. Right, that's a different drink. 710 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: Actually it's a mint soda water, some sweetener and uh. Rum. 711 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: But originally the reason they put all this stuff because 712 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: these are pirates drinking this in the sixteenth century. Um. 713 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: And the reason they put all this stuff in was 714 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: because the stuff they were drinking was just kind of 715 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: like a proto rum called taffia or agua gardie nice. Um. 716 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: It tasted so bad that you had to put all 717 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: this other stuff into it. Um. And so eventually they 718 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,959 Speaker 1: introduced copper stills to Cuba and started making like really 719 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: good rum there. But they were like, no, I still 720 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: like the it and this sugar. Yeah, this is a 721 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: really delicious drink. So that's the mohito drink. Here in Canada, 722 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: you have a drink called the Caesar, another popular morning drink, 723 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: and uh man, they love the Caesar here a Canada. 724 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: I know we had eight this morning. I have been 725 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: making those for years, unknowingly calling them bloody Mary's the 726 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: whole time I did. My friend taught me a recipe. 727 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: He taught me a recipe to had clomato in it, 728 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: and it was delicious, and so I was like, well, 729 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: this is my bloody mary. It's with clomato. I did 730 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: not know it was had a different name. It's I'm 731 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: gonna call it a Caesar from now on because it 732 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: is delicious. It's pretty good, and I really it's it's 733 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: way better with the clomato to me than just regular 734 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: tomato drink. It's it's great despite its origins. Apparently, the 735 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: guy I think his name is Walter Chell, Yeah, from 736 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: the Cold to re in Um. He went to Venice 737 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: and tried a spaghetti dish. It was like, I want 738 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: to drink that tastes like that, and he came up 739 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: with the Caesar, which you guys love, so you love 740 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: spaghetti in the glass? A clam dish basically, yeah, what 741 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: would be really good in this drink? Clams clamns. Yeah, 742 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: it is a good drink. We just um, and then 743 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: of course we figure you guys are probably beat us 744 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: to death with your shoes if we didn't conclude this 745 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: podcast with a lengthy, lengthy discussion on Canadian whiskey, which 746 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: you call rye, which we're big fans of actually, and 747 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: in in Toronto for the first show that we did, um, 748 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: we said we're going to talk about Canadian whiskey, and 749 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: everybody went ry and we thought everybody's going why and 750 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: we we just like looked at each other, like, oh, 751 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: we just lost the crowd. This is not good. Somebody 752 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: would I thought they would love this. Yeah. Uh. It 753 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 1: turns out we finally everybody calmed down. One person basically 754 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: raised their hand and and addressed you guys for us 755 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: and said, everyone's saying rye. We call it ry here, 756 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, so just disregard the last like 757 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: forty five seconds of panic that you saw us go through. 758 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: So we understand how you guys call it rye, but 759 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: we call it Canadian whiskey. The first distillery here in 760 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: Canada was open in Quebec City you may have heard 761 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: of in seventeen sixty nine. That was number one, and 762 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: then by the eighteen forties there were over two hundred distilleries, 763 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: which is not too bad. You guys love making your 764 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: whiskey because you had people from Europe in Scotland and 765 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: Ireland coming over and saying, we know how to make 766 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: this stuff. We know how to spell it without the 767 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: e like the rest of those dummies. And that's why 768 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: you spell whiskey without the e was because of those immigrants. 769 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: And uh, a man named John Molson is credited. It's 770 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 1: starting the first distillery in Canada, whiskey distillery. And and 771 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: you're rye is very similar to our Bourbon, except the 772 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: process is different. Like both of them have corn, a 773 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: lot of corn in them, a lot of malti barley, 774 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: and then a little bit of rye. The differences in 775 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: Bourbon County, Kentucky where they have the soberest elections in 776 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: the country. Um, ironically, ironically, Uh, they take the the 777 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: corn and the rye and the barley and they ferment 778 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: and distill it and age it together. You guys take 779 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: your barley and your corn and your rye and you 780 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: make liquor out of them, and then you bring them 781 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: together at the end, which is why rye is a 782 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: blended whiskey like Scotch. Actually, yeah, apparently the rye part 783 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: of it is the smallest grain, the smallest amount of 784 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: grain that they use. But it provides the most flavors. 785 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: So I guess that's why you call it right and 786 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: so um, during the Civil War, our our civil war, 787 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: when our our country was torn asunder, you guys were 788 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: totally fine. Um, we were busy fighting. We weren't our 789 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: forefathers were. Um, the Clarks were killing the Bryant's. Yeah, 790 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: I feel really bad. It's all good. So during the 791 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: Civil War, during the Civil War, our our distilleries shut down, like, 792 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: we're like, we have other things to focus on, um, 793 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: but we still need booze. So Canada said, we got 794 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: plenty of it here, you guys go. And after the 795 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: Civil War, Um, when our distilleries went back online, there 796 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: was an enormous amount of competition still because everybody loved 797 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: you're rye. You know, we're like, I just got my 798 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: leg amputated, give me some more of that stuff. And 799 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: you guys were more than happy to oblige, so much 800 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: so that the American distillers were like, Congress, we need 801 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: you to step in and do something about this. And 802 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 1: Congress did They said any No, it's true, they said, 803 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: any any booze that's manufactured outside of the United States 804 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: has to have his country of origin on the label. 805 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: So in eighteen ninety a very very popular whiskey from 806 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: Canada called Club Whiskey became Canadian Club. I'm still around 807 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: today because of a law, because of us, because of 808 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: our Congress. Thank you, that's right. And uh, Canadian Club 809 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: remained super popular still to this day. And in the 810 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,959 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties. One of the reasons. One of their cool 811 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: little advertising tricks was that had this cool campaign called 812 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: hide a Case n sixty seven. They said, Hey, you 813 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: know what we'll do. Well, let's appeal to the rich 814 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: drunks of the world and let's hide a case of 815 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: whiskey in some remote area and leave clues and magazines. 816 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 1: And the rich drunk said that this is fantastic something 817 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: to do with my time. I've been wanting a free 818 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: case of Canadian Club for a long time. I want 819 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: to spend fifty dollars finding that street case. So they 820 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: hit them in places like Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa, the 821 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: Great Barrier, reef Uh, Angel Falls, Venezuela, and um they 822 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 1: hit I think the last one in nine the last 823 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: one in nineteen eighty. They hit in Washington, d C. Yeah, 824 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: From nineteen sixty five to nineteen eighty they hit twenty 825 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: five cases and it didn't go quite according to plan um. 826 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: I think the first case that they hit at Kilimanjaro 827 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: was found by accident like ten years later. He's like 828 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: a guy just tripped over again. He's like, oh, case 829 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: the Canadian Club is here, some rases, I guess it's mine. 830 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm taking good fortune, so U. And then the last one, 831 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: by nineteen eighty, they kind of given up on the 832 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: whole thing. It was in Washington, d C. And I 833 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: think they let the people who found it watched them 834 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: just set it down and back away, and they just 835 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: walked up. They're like, hi to case, catch the fever. 836 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: But the cool thing is is there's a bunch of 837 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: them out there that have never been found, still hidden. 838 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: So there any rich drunks out there with some with 839 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: the passport and some spare time. There's some whiskey that 840 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: you could buy at the store, or you could just 841 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money and go out and try 842 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: and find it. Right, And that's all we found out 843 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: about Canadian whiskey. You got anything else, man, I'm just 844 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: glad that people can see your jazz hands lives because 845 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: we're doing a lot. He does that in the studio 846 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: for me, and I'm just like, I wasn't even thinking 847 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: about that. Did you bring a listener mail? Uh? No, sir, No, Okay, 848 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: we'll have to double one in later. Sorry. Someone prepared 849 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: one to hand to like one of the paper airplane 850 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: of the listener mail. They can find people throw stuff 851 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: up here. Um, so I guess we'll wrap it up. 852 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 1: There's more story. Everybody treats us in store. Um, if 853 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: you want to know more about bars, you can type 854 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 1: that word into the search part how stuff Works. But UM, 855 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna bring anything up. You can 856 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: try it anyway, And if you want to get in 857 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: touch with Chuck and me, you can tweet to us 858 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: at s Y s K podcast. You can join us 859 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: on Facebook dot com, slash stuff you Should Know. 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