1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:26,276 Speaker 1: Pushkin. As far as I'm concerned, I'm a dead man 2 00:00:26,396 --> 00:00:31,116 Speaker 1: right now. This is Bob Cooley, or I should say 3 00:00:31,436 --> 00:00:36,356 Speaker 1: this was Bob Cooley when I say I'm dead, Maybe 4 00:00:36,396 --> 00:00:38,916 Speaker 1: not even physically dead, but I'm dead in terms of 5 00:00:39,116 --> 00:00:43,756 Speaker 1: Robert Cooley no longer exists. It all started back in 6 00:00:43,796 --> 00:00:47,276 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies when Bob was a lawyer in Chicago. 7 00:00:48,156 --> 00:00:51,636 Speaker 1: A powerful mobster asked Bob to fix a case, a 8 00:00:51,756 --> 00:00:55,796 Speaker 1: murder case, so a hitman could get off scott free. 9 00:00:56,236 --> 00:00:58,876 Speaker 1: If you say you can do it and you can't, 10 00:00:59,196 --> 00:01:01,076 Speaker 1: that could be a problem. I know what that means. 11 00:01:01,076 --> 00:01:02,916 Speaker 1: It means you get an extra hole in your head. 12 00:01:03,676 --> 00:01:06,876 Speaker 1: It turns out Bob was really good at fixing cases, 13 00:01:07,396 --> 00:01:10,076 Speaker 1: and he did it for years until one day he 14 00:01:10,196 --> 00:01:13,636 Speaker 1: decided to switch sides, go over to the FBI, and 15 00:01:13,756 --> 00:01:19,996 Speaker 1: betray the mob. The moment I put the wire around 16 00:01:19,996 --> 00:01:23,676 Speaker 1: the first time, my life was over. I couldn't ever 17 00:01:23,916 --> 00:01:27,436 Speaker 1: practice law anymore. I couldn't never stay in the city anymore. 18 00:01:29,956 --> 00:01:35,196 Speaker 1: Bob could give us judges, lawyers, police officers, politicians. He 19 00:01:35,276 --> 00:01:38,756 Speaker 1: could wire up against those people and go be Bob Cooley. 20 00:01:39,316 --> 00:01:42,316 Speaker 1: I would come into the office in the morning and 21 00:01:42,356 --> 00:01:45,796 Speaker 1: if he didn't call me right away. I didn't know 22 00:01:45,996 --> 00:01:49,956 Speaker 1: if he was in a trunk somewhere yet. If it 23 00:01:49,996 --> 00:01:52,436 Speaker 1: ever got out, they would kill me in a heartbeat. 24 00:01:52,756 --> 00:01:55,836 Speaker 1: Or approximately five years, a Chicago lawyer has been a 25 00:01:55,916 --> 00:01:59,996 Speaker 1: government informants, secretly recording conversations with some of this city's 26 00:02:00,036 --> 00:02:02,996 Speaker 1: more than shakers. If you're wondering why would a guy 27 00:02:03,036 --> 00:02:06,876 Speaker 1: like Bob Cooley just decide to flip, well, you're not alone. 28 00:02:07,276 --> 00:02:10,036 Speaker 1: I've wondered the same thing myself, and I've talked to 29 00:02:10,156 --> 00:02:15,316 Speaker 1: FBI agents, federal prosecutors, and former mobsters. Many of them 30 00:02:15,396 --> 00:02:21,436 Speaker 1: are still wondering. Who was Bob Cooley? Really? I wouldn't 31 00:02:21,476 --> 00:02:24,516 Speaker 1: trust that guy. He looks like a little scum, big layer, 32 00:02:24,796 --> 00:02:27,316 Speaker 1: stool bidgi. He looked like what he was or at like, 33 00:02:27,596 --> 00:02:30,996 Speaker 1: is this guy for real? From my perspective, Bob was 34 00:02:31,036 --> 00:02:33,396 Speaker 1: too good to be true. There's got to be something 35 00:02:33,396 --> 00:02:36,236 Speaker 1: wrong with this. I can say with all certainty. I 36 00:02:36,276 --> 00:02:38,316 Speaker 1: think he's a hero because he didn't have to do 37 00:02:38,356 --> 00:02:40,476 Speaker 1: what he did, and he did it anyway. Is he 38 00:02:40,516 --> 00:02:44,156 Speaker 1: a plant? Is he a double agent? What is he? 39 00:02:45,436 --> 00:02:49,036 Speaker 1: I'm Jake Halbern and this is deep Cover Season two, 40 00:02:49,556 --> 00:03:07,956 Speaker 1: mob Land coming January twenty fourth from Pushkin Industries When 41 00:03:08,036 --> 00:03:15,876 Speaker 1: it was fun. Subscribe to Pushkin Plus and you can 42 00:03:15,916 --> 00:03:19,756 Speaker 1: binge the whole season adds free. Find Pushkin Plus on 43 00:03:19,796 --> 00:03:23,036 Speaker 1: the deep Cover show page in Apple Podcasts or at 44 00:03:23,076 --> 00:03:25,716 Speaker 1: pushkin dot fm, slash plus