WEBVTT - #94 - Isaiah Rashad 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:07.040 There. It is what it is, are is a e 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.760 Welcome to the show. God damn it. We let cap 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:13.240 podcast a new addition, new episode. You know, we're getting 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:17.759 close to episode one hundred, and I'm gonna probably call 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.640 in on my good friend Freddy Gibbs to try to 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.760 come on episode one hundred. I don't know if he's 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.279 I mean, he'll he'll do it if I ask, but 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.120 you know he was on episode one. Gotta do episode 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.720 one hundred. Listen, we got a dope fucking episode today 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.400 with Isaiah Rashad all right, one of my favorite rappers 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.800 in the last like seven or eight years. Obviously we 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.279 get music from him seldomly, but his new album is 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.839 Fucking Fire, representing TDE. This conversation went off the rails, 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.920 for sure. It got interesting. There was even some things 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.240 we took out, you know what I'm saying. A couple 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:54.120 of things were just like, you know, let's take that out. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:01:01.560 You know. But probably the reading the YouTube comments and 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.560 all the fans are saying it's the best interview he's done. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.240 You say, it's like one of the one or two 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.160 best interviews Isaiah SHOT's done. We just fucking clown on 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.480 each other and we obviously we talking about the music, 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.600 but we get into a lot of other cool shit. 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All right, man, look, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.360 Bootleg keV Show Special guests. Finally we got a new 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.400 album from this guy. I feel like every time I've 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.320 ran into you for the last you know, X amount 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:57.720 of years, I'm like, yo, what's up with the music? 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.440 What's up with the music? Man? We need it, we 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.720 need it. Finally we're here. We're here now, and congrats 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.000 on just the success of the album and the tour man. 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.160 We're just talking the tours and sold the funk out man. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.600 It's news to me. But congrats bro. You know, I 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.239 think a misconception that a lot of people make, including myself, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.480 is that the delay for your new music was a 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.200 TD thing, but it was really on you, like you 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.000 you weren't done. Yeah, I mean it's about like can 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.359 we turn it in start rolling? You can't change it, 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.840 so you got to take your time going back and forth. Motherfuckers, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.679 you know what I'm saying, going back with your homies 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.240 and all that, and it's whenever I want to do it. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.280 Can we get you closer to the mic? I'm like 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.480 seeing cook over there turning it up. So for you, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.000 like you know, personally, what did you go through since 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:56.480 the last album? Like, because you know, to take that 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.400 much time away, I'm sure you had to get reinspired. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:02:59.960 Was there personal stuff you had to get through the 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.320 kind of put yourself into another creative place to want 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.239 to do an album. I guess I'm always recording stuff 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.840 and because I just like doing this ship and so 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.480 we always have like a batch of songs and from 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.440 from time to drop the weed, from time to time party, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.200 from from time to time, you like hear a song 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.320 and it's like this sound like an album track, so 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.360 you put it aside, and then that shit just happens 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.840 over months, and then after a while you get to 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.000 a point where you're like, okay, I got five or 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:31.839 six songs that really sound like it's an album. Was like, okay, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.520 maybe it sound for me to start making an album 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.480 that's happy. How many like the pull of songs that 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.240 you had to pull from to like pick from the 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.200 album because call them songs, I call them ideas. Yeah, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.560 so it'd be like songs maybe like twenty like scratches, 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.960 maybe like one hundred, so like a hundred ideas or 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.440 a hundred like attempts to like get something going it's 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.760 doing in the studio. I used to take like those 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.320 sessions eight hour or twelve hours sessions, and you should, man, 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.960 I need to make a song every time. And it 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.720 was like, no, get off as many ideas as you 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.160 can in the studio. You gotta go back to the studio. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.440 You might as well go back with something almost partially formulated, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.279 something that you like, just finish that ship. Yeah, that's 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.560 how it happens. Talk about just kind of the evolution 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.839 from album to album for you sonically, like where where 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.640 do you? Because I feel like each album has kind 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.479 of been an evolution of like, you know, your first 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.640 project tape whatever we're calling Sylvia, Sylvia. Yeah, whatever we're 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.680 calling Sylvia. That was that an album? Take it was? 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.039 It was? It was. It was a classic, is what 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.919 it was. Thank you? But I call it it's a 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.920 demo to me for real, because it was the first 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.880 fourteen full songs that I made. Man top Hic went 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.800 through this thing where I sent him stuff and I 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.760 guess at the time I didn't realize it and he 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.719 didn't realize it. They would just scratched ideas and I 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.280 sent him back to see what really, like, what do 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:56.520 you want me to do to it? Or what do 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.000 you think of your type of shit? And but I 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:03.640 hadn't went beyond that stage till Sylvia. And that was 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.920 me getting inspiration from everything that I like, had been 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.040 around and liked them, and I was emulating at the 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:16.280 time from everybody from Outcaster Tyler Scarf, Wayne and all 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.680 that shit, and then the Sunstarae is me trying to 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.680 filter out those influences. But I still like that sound 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.640 and I used to think that I had to change 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.800 sound from album to album, and I'm like, I mean, 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:33.279 like all my favorite artists, soul singers, classic shit, jazz shit, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:37.120 I'm like, they make different variations of these ship. But 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.920 after a while they started making like a subgenre from that, 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.560 and I'm like, I want to do that. So I 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.640 tried that, Like I started building on that with the 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:49.240 A and then this one was like less, like it 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.000 was even more filtered out of other influences. It was 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.400 like me just really just doing my shit. So this 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.440 is like more like my sound. It sounds like you 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.600 identify my sound off this like versus the last project. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.520 Producers would just send me like a jazzy beat because 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.360 that was like the stereotype. I feel like now this 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.000 one they'll understand kind of more for right right right right, Yeah, No, 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.920 Like Yo, that Isaiah Vershaw type beat on YouTube definitely 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.080 has to be jazzy. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.280 Like this album definitely there's more bounce to it. There's 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.279 more you know what I'm saying, losing that ship without 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.839 losing what people love you for. That was important to me. Yeah, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.560 And I also think too, like some of the features 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.600 you picture this album are dope like Jay Worthy's dope, 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.599 like super Underrated Duke is dope. Like what was like, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.560 uh for you? Like you know, having for people who 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.640 you know, you're you're, you're, you have a cult following? Yeah, 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.800 you know what I'm saying. People are like, wait, people 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.200 have been waiting for this album, So how careful were 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.600 you with like who made the album? I try to 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:53.440 I try to trust my gut on I guess knowing 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.839 that there's a cored like there's a cult following, and 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.159 I think even inside that quoto there's a chord amount 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.080 of them that like understand me how I feel like 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.080 I understood the artists I like growing up and like 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:09.280 so they got patience not just in time, but like 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.520 with experimenting with so thety there for the journey like 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.040 ten ten projects deep type of ship. And then there's 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.680 other ones who have an idea of me respects them. 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.040 But I had to bypass that and think about, man, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:22.400 I want I want, I want to talk to some 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.400 new people. I want to I want to get to 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.120 know some new people when we go, not just to 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.360 not to say the same people, but I don't want 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.280 to bring necessarily the exact same crowd so that went 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.960 into it. And I also like knew that, like when 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.920 I put my stuff out it was gonna for good 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.000 or bad, it was gonna get some attention. And I 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.960 was like, why not share with people I like doing 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:47.480 this shit with Red to the Rip who did the artwork, 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.160 to the homies me and already picked the tracks, and 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.840 the features were just all the homies organic and or 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.960 people who I looked up to and reached out a network. 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.600 Was there was there anything that like almost made the 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.520 album that didn't make the album maybe feature that came 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.800 into late or a record that like maybe the everything 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.160 almost didn't make the album, it didn't make it, you 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.880 know what I'm saying, Like like like was there something 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:12.880 that didn't make it that was like because maybe the 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.840 sample didn't get cleared last minute? Anything that didn't make 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.800 it is probably because it's sample or because it wasn't finished. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.840 That's fair. Everything is like interchangeable, like I was trying 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.800 to go for to me like a steady seven eight 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.600 if I was judging it off my head, for everyone else, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.199 like every individual, so something like married ship right right, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.280 And I always when I played it back, I'm like, Okay, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.920 this is as long as ain't no six in there, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.679 and it's a at average seven eight. I know, if 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.000 you don't like it, you just don't like it. And 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.600 if you like it, you gonna love it. And that ship. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.960 That's how it just went about the whole project. Yo. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:50.199 I randomly went to Chattanooga, like and when we were 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.720 in Atlanta to shoot a music video with my artists 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.000 because my friend's family has like a farm in the 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.640 middle of Chattanooga Chattanog. I don't even know it's like 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:03.720 outside of Chattanooga, but for Overthorp for it's like in 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.480 the middle of the forest is where my boy's property is. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.160 But I was like, next time I see Isaiah, I 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.080 gotta be like, man, I drove through Chattanooga, did you 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.079 eat anything like some fast food? So I'm just mad 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.000 that when you came up you had me come up 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.040 here and talk about chatting and you brought up Chattanoo 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.800 that you said that the only thing you can describe 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.800 it was it was forest. It was just a lot 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.679 of trees. And then now nobody's gonna understand what chattering. Well, listen, 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.840 it's if you're in Atlanta. Ever, it's a hop, skip 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.360 and a jump, you know, it was like a two 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.679 hour drive is a two hours Yeah, bring bring Chattanooga 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.640 some tourism. What what what is there to do there 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.199 outside of have great Southern food? And what I did was, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:43.920 I mean, we just did ship in the and we 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:49.920 just I'm like, it's chill. I mean, it's an aquarium. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.400 It's an aquarium. Aquarium, this is zoo. It's good for 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.079 the kids, good for fam you know what I'm saying. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.760 Don't bring your bullshit to chat. Bring your family the chat. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.760 It's a family town, family town, good place to race 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.640 of family. If you're doing that, yeah, that's fair. You 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:10.680 and Kenny Beats got a crazy chemistry. I think Kenny 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.760 is probably the most underrated producer in hip hop. When 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.480 we just when we when we talk about like the 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.000 beat has his following's insane shot the twitch because those 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.719 twitch people are they're a different type of dedicated. But 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.360 but he's he's a beast. Talk about your guys is 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.840 just you know, chemistry and how did that relationship start? 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.320 And ken't even knowing each other for probably like five years. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.839 And when he first started seeing me Beats or playing 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.679 me beats, I ain't like none of them and they 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.720 were like similar to the ones that he made right 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.880 right now, but like they weren't exactly of the same. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.480 He hadn't had I guess whatever lessons that he got 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.120 to get here, he didn't have those all the way. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.720 But then I heard his ship with Key Project and 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.640 I was like, damn, I want something mind you. I 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.840 only know Kenny. I wasn't think about Kenny beats because 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.800 I don't even think Rory had introduced me to him 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.320 like that, right, And it was like a while. So 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:01.560 when I'm like, bro, I want to get some beats 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:06.680 from Kenny Bees, He's like, I'm like, that's Kenny, Like yeah, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.280 So I went and saw Kenny on the Humble and 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.040 I came back and I'm like, can you help me? 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:16.200 And then that's wild he was he fucked with my ship, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.760 so he was enthuseday, and like, dude, the ship. We 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:23.000 both tourists, so it'd be a challenge. It's a tourist connection, Yeah, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.319 I guess. I guess it's more like we both like 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:32.160 a challenge. Talk about this record with Uzzi. Man Uzzi's obviously, Uh, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.600 he's kind of like a walking enigma. I feel like 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.880 he's kind of like a real life like this he 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.400 put up to the music video like that. I don't 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.960 doubt I thought. I've seen him twice and I think 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.000 the first time I seen him, we were at the 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.280 Hip Hop Awars for rehears was like twenty sixteen, and 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.559 he was like that, but he was way more like bouncy. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.079 He's still bouncy. It was like like super young. And 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.480 now it's like it's like you just knew he came 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.160 into the room. It's kind of crazy. It was kind 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.520 of it's some real I ain't never been nobody like that. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.720 It's type though. You know, I think he's got like 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.640 an aura. There's very few people that have been around 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.120 that I feel like they have like an aura that 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.760 you like, Let's say he's a professional. I mean, yeah, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.040 it seems like a professional. He's not a nice kid too. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.199 He's not on like some weirdo like rapper shit, you 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.720 know what I'm saying. Definitely professional on this album that 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.920 you've had, Like I feel like on your your last 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.959 two projects, you had in some vulnerable moments, like records 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.760 like Heavenly Father. I don't feel like we got as 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:32.240 much of that on this project. Was there wrapped around 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.640 other shit. It's sitting there. It just wrapped this shit. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.240 I said, like, don't shoot, I say all heard for me. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.960 It's like it's it's it's just like poetry, but it's 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:43.640 a lot of shit and there's a lot of like 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.120 all herb is really about. All this shit is about 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.839 emotional like breakups and all that type of shit. It's 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.720 just wrapped in stuff that it's more about you feeling it. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.200 And if you're a nerd, you're gonna figure it out, 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.160 you know what I'm saying. Like I like I said, 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.439 used the word likely like I was, you know what 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.400 I'm saying writing that ship down, deciphering this ship. But 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:05.000 if you just want to listen to music, yeah, and 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.120 I try to design the music to be like that. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:08.720 Did you go through did you go through a breakup? 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.800 Since since we're on the album no, no, I mean 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.320 know you just said that record is about, you know, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.000 some breakup ship. I mean it's that's the vibe. You know, 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.800 you go through bad, you go through qualms in your relationships, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.319 you go through ups and downs and you feel them. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.280 I don't to write something out like da da da dad, 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.280 you hurt my feelings. Just happened. That happened, makes it 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:38.400 more in the moment versus how like I actually felt. Okay, 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.680 the way I write it is about how I felt, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:46.080 not exactly what was going on. No, that's fair. Yeah, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.760 sometimes yeah that's fair. You know, you and Sissa, I 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.600 feel like TD diehards. We always kind of like associate 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.520 you too. Is like, you know, we're always waiting for 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.480 new music from Sissy and from Isaiah Rashad. Right, we've 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.640 been waiting for what Sissa dropping twenty seventeen. It's been 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.760 a while since Control dropped, but I feel like you're 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.760 still in the charts. It might be it was fucking 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.440 one of the best albums in the last decade, for sure, 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.040 But I feel like you two are are kind of 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.400 like obviously there's the core TD members and then there's 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.480 Isaiah Shot and Scissa, and for whatever reason, we always 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.640 have to wait very long times to get music from 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:27.120 both of you guys. We came after like the Four 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.080 Horsemen or whatever the fuck, you know what I'm saying, right, 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:33.040 and like after Black Hippie, and that expectation is pretty high. Well, 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.800 especially I think for her being like some R and 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.800 B soul pop type of shit, like she knew she 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.520 had to like diversify her so and not only separated 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.640 itself from like the boys, from all the girls. So 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.400 her ear and her critique for herself is hiring for me. 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.040 I just didn't want to sound like them without getting 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:55.280 the same respect. So yeah, I think like when it's 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.920 Jay Rock, ab sol Q and Kendrick and you're the 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.440 you're like the first rapper, I feel like kind of 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:05.040 got brought on after this initial success. No matter what 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.120 you do, you're gonna get compared to and critique and 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:12.600 countrigue to the highest level. And like, you know, even 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.000 like like you know, with with the reason, you know, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.200 like reason no matter what, Like people compare Reason to 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.720 Kendrick and I'm like, they don't tell, but he'd be 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.160 rapping because he could rap just because you know what 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.320 I'm saying, that's not a lot of people can rap, 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.000 you know what I mean? But was that like that 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.760 like how much of getting over that hump with the 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.520 TD ship and just kind of earning those fans where 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.040 they saw you as Isaiah as opposed to like, is 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.960 this the new Kendrick? Like I think it's happening right now? 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.240 Do you think it's finally? I feel like right now, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.560 like this album you're kind of separate. Yeah, does it 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:53.000 feel good? I like, I'll just be seeing it. What 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.680 have you seen that's that's made you feel like like 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.120 like finally that moment's come. It's like the way people 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.120 seem to appreciate it where they come come about it. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.920 I don't even see people mention them in my comings, 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.840 like I'm sorry, I don't see people mention them like 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.760 in a comparison way in the comments where I'm sure 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.160 previously that probably happened a lot. It was like a 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.400 lot of Kendrick sometimes rock, but like that was it 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.160 and it but it was light though back then. So 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.680 I knew that they had appreciation for my music then, 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:25.800 but now it's like it's just me. So we're like 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.880 like when you go back and like, how often do 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.080 you go back and listen to the Sylvia Project because 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.360 I feel like that's still into it. Like the day 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.000 the album came out, like this album, did you just 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.000 go through the whole discography? Yeah? That's how somebody doing 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.320 it on Twitter, So I was like, let me just 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.440 do it. Yeah, how does that feel that like listening 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:43.760 to it now because I still feel like that's one 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.680 of the more underappreciated albums. I was like, Nah, you're crazy, bro. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.880 I was like, man, I'm like, this is really slow 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.760 and moody. I hear all everything that I used to 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.080 get contigued about. I hear it. Now you hear it. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.600 You feel like finally you you're in your pocket. Like fully, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.280 like as far as like I'm just learning, I go 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:07.560 up the projects, not like necessarily like the years or 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:11.200 the time, because it's about the result, showing food type 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.199 of ship. So I'm like, this is my third project, 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:14.960 like the fourth one should be I'm like, this is 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.200 my third one. If I do six and I'm keeping 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.240 the same makes a versation for myself to six, like 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.439 that should be crazy? Respectfully, how late? How long are 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.760 we gonna have to wait until the fourth one? I 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.439 mean I was rapping yesterday, so you know, but like 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.800 you know, there's gonna be like four years. I'm better 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.480 at finishing songs now, so definitely not four years. Maybe, 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:38.320 like who knows, maybe next year, maybe not, maybe two 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:43.080 years from now, maybe not that's fair. I don't know. Yeah, 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.280 he's I have no fucking idea. I got he had 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.800 a hard draw full of music and if they decided 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.120 to be like, yo, let's put out an album. I'm 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.080 not gonna necessarily be like no, right, right, right, right, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.840 right right. Did you see the new tattoo that Anderson 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.640 pack he got tattooed? Don't put my ship out pretty much? Yeah, 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.439 first of all, pretty wild thing to get tattooed. But 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.040 how do you like, how do you feel about that? 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.960 Like if you were, if you would unfortunately pass away, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.160 don't put it out music, but just not an output album. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.560 Don't put it under a thing making it like as 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.680 a music. Okay, so put it out, just not as 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.360 a body of work. Edit it, don't finish the songs, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.959 put everything out. Yeah. I think we just saw that 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.400 with like Pop Smoke, Like were the first Pop Smoke 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.200 album after he passed. You could tell where like songs 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.119 that he had like actually wanted to come out. And 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.600 then this last album you could tell they threw some 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.720 ship together and it's like if it's feeding a family, 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:43.560 I understand that, respectfully. Put out my scratches man, like 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.440 some art ship. Seeing how the process goes. People might 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.359 appreciate that in a different level, like some untitled on 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:56.119 the master Ship more you mentioned earlier when you were 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:57.840 growing up, there are certain artists that you just kind 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.879 of like thought you knew everything about that. You you 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.280 and you have fans like that, a very small core 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.360 of your fans that feel that way about you. Who 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.119 are those artists for you? Though? Growing up master P, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:13.880 we paid Fiasco who else? Everything about okay, both of them. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.280 I don't know why. I used to read all those 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:21.320 fucking magazines dude and me too, XXL source all that 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:26.719 ship one Wikipedia before Nigga knew Wikipedia was and all 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.080 that type of ship did you go look up lyrics 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:30.280 and ship like? I used to always go, like when 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.480 when the Internet first became accessible to me, I would go, like, 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.159 on the there was like those lyrics sites you go 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.719 before genius. I would people, I don't know what you're 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.879 talking about. Then there'd be message boards where you like 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.280 all kinds of like Yeah, I would go on there, 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:46.360 and I realized that people were getting lyrics wrong. It's 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.719 when I started listening to songs more than like I started. 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:53.800 When I hear a song, I'll be doing the lyrics now. So, uh, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:59.240 what is your favorite Cast album ever? Man? It flows 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.000 between the first just because I like Southern Players and 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.879 Cadillac Music. I like that one because how wrong and fresh. 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:10.280 They were m hm. And but I like Equimini because 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.480 it seemed like some prime rap ship, but then because 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.159 it like was a glimpse of what they could do. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.840 I don't think there's really any songs that much bigger 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.760 than Bombs. I mean Bombs over back. That is, like 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.440