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Speaker 1: in the ways ways that Hannah did. But on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: a good not just the love stories, and not just

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Speaker 1: the drama that exists during the season, but also how

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Speaker 1: it affects people's lives. Jed Wyatt has been a key

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Speaker 1: character on this season. Obviously, he ended the season engaged

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Speaker 1: to Hannah, and as we saw recently, that has now ended.

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Speaker 1: We want to talk to Jet. We want to hear

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Speaker 1: his side of the story. For months, we've questioned, what

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Speaker 1: thing going to end? And I'm done assuming Ashley is done.

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Speaker 1: Assuming I just don't think that's the way you live life.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we live life assuming how things happen.

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Speaker 1: We have to hear it from the source, and that's

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Speaker 1: why we're doing this podcast. Listen if you want, Criticize

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Speaker 1: us if you want, But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: see this show make anybody's life worse. So that's where

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Speaker 1: it happened, Jet On. It's a compelling conversation. It's one

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Speaker 1: so it's now time to hear Jed story. This is

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into here along the podcast, UM,

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Speaker 1: this is maybe the one of the other things I

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00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: want to ask. I don't know how to say this, well,

433
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: is I think there is this weird level at which

434
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: there is a self promotion behind a breakup. But at

435
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: the same time, Um, you know this was an outlet

436
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: for you to promote your music and you admitted that.

437
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: I mean, that was something that was talked about on

438
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: the show and then definitely a storyline on the show.

439
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to I mean, it was this. It

440
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: feels like the apple hasn't fallen fall from the tree

441
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: because you went on the show to promote music. She

442
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: knew that going in that was something that you had

443
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: talked about with her, and then when that kind of

444
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, maybe backfires on her or

445
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: there's a route awakening where she realizes, oh, he actually

446
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 1: likes this girl, he's in love with this girl, and

447
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: he isn't coming back to me. Is it that crazy

448
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: or that outlandish of her than to say, well, I'm

449
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: going to use this to my advantage too. I mean, no,

450
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's not I mean, I don't think it's right,

451
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: but I don't think that it's you know, outlandish by

452
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: any means. No, it's the part, Yeah, it's it's just

453
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 1: the part that I'm again, I think this is just

454
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: a really unfortunate story of lessons learned. And I hope

455
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: that's what the listeners take away, is that you haven't

456
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: yet said this isn't your fault. And I respect that.

457
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: Trust me, I really respect that out of you that

458
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: you have you've yet to say this isn't my fault.

459
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: But I also think that, quite honestly, it was just

460
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: some really poor decisions being made during a time that

461
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: you're all eyes were on you. Yeah, no, I agree,

462
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm I've never felt the way I felt for Hannah,

463
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: and it happened to be in front of America. You know.

464
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: It's It's something that I'm not used to at all.

465
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: So there was just so many different things going and

466
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to excuse my mistake at all, but

467
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: it's not something I was familiar to by any means.

468
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: The some of our listeners. I'm I'm looking here, they

469
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: wrote in an email. They said, because a lot of

470
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: the questions we asked where how could have Jed handled

471
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: this differently? And uh, and we discussed it, I think

472
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: two weeks ago on the podcast. One of the ideas,

473
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: and I want to know if you ever thought about this, UM,

474
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: was to bring Haley onto the show and during this

475
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: experience and ask her to come on this so so

476
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: that you could have closure with her. I think what

477
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 1: we're hearing, and I want to make sure that I'm

478
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: understanding this correctly. You already thought you had closure with her,

479
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: So what did it ever cross your mind to need

480
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: to explain to Haley even post filming of the show

481
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: that hey, I'm engaged. You know, UM, I had actually

482
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: a friend who introduced Haley and I had you know

483
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: him and I talked when I got home and he

484
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: told me that, you know, she was upset and throwing

485
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: beer bottles at a bar or something, and so at

486
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: that moment I knew that she you know, I knew

487
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: she'd be following the spoilers. I knew, I mean, all

488
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: my friends knew everything. When I got back, I was

489
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: kind of pissed because I wanted to like kind of

490
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: talk about my journey my close friends, you know, but

491
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: then they literally, you know how the spoilers go, they

492
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: everything just about everything. So um, when I heard she

493
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: was throwing this tantrum. Um. I think a few days

494
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: or a week later, I ran into her at a

495
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: bar and I saw her initially and I just kind

496
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: of wanted to avoid it. I just got back. I

497
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: was still coming down to earth from everything that had

498
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: just happened. It was such a long during me amazing

499
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: but long. And it was my first time going to

500
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's a thing in Nashville, a bunch of

501
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: musicians play. And she approached me next to my friends

502
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: and asked me, you know, first said you know you

503
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: weren't going to call, you were't gonna do anything, And

504
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: my responses I just like, I don't know like what

505
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: to say to you at this time. Like, and I

506
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: know for a fact, here in this bar where people

507
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: were filming me right now, there's people I could see

508
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: people behind, even her and my friends, just because it

509
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: was it was fresh, and people knew who you were

510
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: because your picture had already been released, right, So I

511
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: was like, this is definitely not the place for conversation

512
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: and I still needed to gather my thoughts, and so

513
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: I heard again from one of my friends that she

514
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: had been upset again or something, and so I talked

515
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: to Hannah about it and I was like, I I

516
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: think that I should say something to her, and I

517
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: don't know if I need to do this in person

518
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: or text or a phone call. And Hannah and I

519
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: came to terms that I should just call her. So

520
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: I did try to call her one time, and she

521
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: ignored it and never called me back, and then the

522
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: articles came out. So so at this point Hannah was

523
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: aware and supportive of of you trying to process this relationship.

524
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: What at this point did Hannah know about your relationship

525
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: with Haley. She knew, she knew my feelings and emotions

526
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: towards it. Like I said, she knew how I felt

527
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: and the closure that I had towards her, and I

528
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: was not being mindful to how Haley might have been feeling.

529
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: So that's where I lacked the details. Um that I

530
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: that I love yous, the trying to think the note

531
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: and I I had told Haley this was me talking

532
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: before I knew anything about the show, and I could

533
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: pick my past apart for for hours and I know

534
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: that it's not right, but I talked to him, just

535
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: talking like I think going top five, that would be

536
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: like the thing to do, and like, I don't know

537
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: what I mean there. I didn't know who the bachelotte's

538
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: gonna be. I didn't know that I would even fall

539
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: in love, right, I hadn't no clue what was going

540
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: to happen. So um, when Hannah read all that, it

541
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: was very hurtful and I think made her question the

542
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: validity of my words towards her, which really sucks because

543
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: like I know for a fact that I felt everything

544
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: that I said to her was as real as it gets.

545
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: And take your time, We're good. No Rusher could take

546
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: a break. Yeah, take a break. We're gonna come back in.

547
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: And uh, we we took a little break. This is

548
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: not an easy conversation to have. And I think jed

549
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: when we paused here the emotion was coming from your

550
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: feelings towards Hannah. And one thing we haven't got to

551
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: see a lot of because of how this ended and

552
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: because of the kind of the months in between filming

553
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: the show and when the show aired, is how serious

554
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: your relationship is. But was So to you, Jed, what

555
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: were your feelings to Hannah? Yeah, I mean, I think

556
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: the hardest part of all this is that you know,

557
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: her questioning my validity due to all this um in

558
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: my words, because I have not felt as this strong

559
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: way for someone ever. And you know, it was just

560
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: it was just easy, and it happened so fast, you know,

561
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: those those couple of months for like years. But it's

562
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: also like you blink your eye and next thing you know,

563
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: you're completely head over heels and engaged and start talking

564
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: about like houses and all that, just the crazy stuff

565
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: that you just you know you want that eventually, but

566
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: you just wouldn't have assumed it would have been here

567
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: and now, and um, yeah, it's it's it's hard to

568
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: to know that's over. But also it's just harder to

569
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: know that she questions the validity and how I felt.

570
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: So let's go to the breakup part. So we know

571
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: that the day after you guys got engaged, you have

572
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: the conversation about Haley, and then we know that you

573
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: ran into her in the bar and you got a

574
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: little bit concerned about her feelings and you called her

575
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: and she didn't pick up. But then the People magazine

576
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: came out. So is the People magazine really when Hannah

577
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: started to feel feelings of distrust? Yeah? Absolutely. I feel

578
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: like that's when it really just hit her because she

579
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: saw the things that I had left out when I

580
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: wasn't considering how Haley was truly feeling. The letter. So

581
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: in the letter it sounded like you intended to get

582
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: back with Haley if the Bachelor I didn't work out?

583
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Did you in him that? I didn't know. I didn't

584
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: know what really I was saying or what was going

585
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: to happen, So I can't really say that I wanted

586
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: that or that was going to happen. So then, Um,

587
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: when was the scene that we saw between you and

588
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: Hannah on that couch in the house in l A filmed?

589
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: When was it filmed? Like? Was it the week after

590
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: the People magazine article came out? How much turmoil was

591
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: between you guys? It was within the week and then

592
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: you you didn't break up? Then that's and she broke

593
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: off the engagement, it seemed mm hmm. What happened in

594
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: between that in the real breakup which happened over the phone. Um,

595
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: just a lot of emotion, sadness, and just really evaluating

596
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: myself and how I've made people feel. Um, Hannah obviously

597
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: my number one priority, but I've had to gain perspective

598
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: from everyone else's feelings too, And that being Haley, that

599
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: being you know, the fans, and like, it's just I

600
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: never intended or wanted to hurt anyone, but you know,

601
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: just kind of taking it in and swallowing the fact

602
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: that I have hurt people. That was just. It was tough.

603
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: When I feel like breakups are inevitable, you get that

604
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: feeling where you're like trapped. You're like, oh, man, like

605
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: I messed up, or like there's something messed up in

606
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: this relationship and I don't think I'm gonna be able

607
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: to get out of it. So were you feeling that

608
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: that trapped, scared feeling for a while like it was

609
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: going to go south no matter what you did. I

610
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure what was going to happen. You know,

611
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: in my head, I kept telling myself that, you know,

612
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: that love was so powerful. It was powerful enough to

613
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: make it through the bachelorette journey. You know, I feel

614
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: like we can work through this, especially if we intend

615
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: on spending the rest of our lives together, because there's

616
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna be trials and tribulations that life does throw at

617
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: you that you know, believe it or not, can outweigh this,

618
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: and UM, I just I was really hopeful that it

619
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: was something that we could talk through. But you know,

620
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: I understand why it hurts so bad now, and you

621
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: know that's that one of the things. Uh, you just

622
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: touched on it. Uh. This week Reality Steve came out

623
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: on UM publicly and showed some comments that you were

624
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: liking on your social media um to pointing to your

625
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: support of people saying, oh, you know, kind of against Hannah.

626
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: I'd say they're anti Hannah comments that you were liking.

627
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: What was your thought process there? So, contrary to popular belief,

628
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: I had gone to tap the comment um the the

629
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: longer one. I can't remember exactly what I said, and

630
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to see the chain of who he

631
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: was responding to or whether it was just him and

632
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: I liked it, and that was my mistake. But I'm

633
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: gonna own up and say that I did like it.

634
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't fully agree with what was

635
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: said there, but I I did like it, And you know,

636
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: I would be lying if I said that I didn't

637
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: feel like obviously a little weird about some of the

638
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 1: things that were said during the season, especially watching back

639
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: about like the windmill and stuff like that. Like obviously,

640
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: it's just it's really odd and hard to hear someone

641
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: that you love and care about be so open about

642
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: hooking up with someone else. And you know, she I

643
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: totally understand that that's it's her journey and her role,

644
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: and you know, I probably would have done the same thing,

645
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, if I was if the roles were flipped

646
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: in I was, you know, with the top three or

647
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: four guys or whatever it was. Um, I would want

648
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: to explore that too. So she's not wrong for it,

649
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: But it's just it's hard watching back when that is

650
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: your person and I would that I had mentally, I

651
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: had haste towards it. But their comment was, you know,

652
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: it's not right. Whether I liked it, if it was

653
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: an accident or even on purpose, it's still not cool

654
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: with me. So yeah, I mean, I think that's where

655
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: you you like the comment, You're you're admitting that you

656
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: like the comment, and so the bottom of it is, which, Man,

657
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: my reaction towards things in life are typically not great.

658
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: Um My, one of my one of my personal biggest

659
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: weaknesses is when things happened that I'm maybe angry about

660
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: or frustrating, my initial reaction is always one that's probably

661
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: not right. And so your reaction here was a like

662
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: a comment that was kind of anti Hannah in a

663
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: moment of anger or Hey, so so you have had

664
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: moments here where this has been frustrating for you. Yeah,

665
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely absolutely not to like beat the dead

666
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: horse here. But there were also some videos of your

667
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: friends like wearing Team jed shirts and they were kind

668
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 1: of speaking negatively about Handle, like I don't like that girl.

669
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Um? I think it's

670
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: pretty clear that people are going to have their opinions

671
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: and be that friends or fans. You know, it's something

672
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: that you can't really control. I did text them afterwards

673
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: and let them know that you know that this isn't

674
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: the time or place for that, And but I mean,

675
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: in the end, they are my friends, and I'm sure

676
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: Hannah's friends would say some things about me right now too.

677
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: The j had to kind of some up all this. Then,

678
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: How would you have liked handed to handle this? Really

679
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: this situation, I really I would have liked to have

680
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: had a conversation it just being honest, like sitting down

681
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: without cameras and anyone else being around, you kind of

682
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: just talk about it. Whether we worked through it or not,

683
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: but it to just be us. Did you ever get

684
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: to talk about it in person together? Do you hope

685
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: to still? I mean, at this point, she's pretty much

686
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: openly stated that she has her closure and she's ready

687
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: to move on. And that's I understand. Um, So I

688
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: feel that you know at this point that I'm hurt.

689
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: I do have love for her that I have to

690
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: do the same. Yeah. I mean you were engaged and

691
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine not having any closure one on one.

692
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: It would be tough. I mean millions of people watched

693
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: you have a breakup. Yeah, and if you're sitting here,

694
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: there's just a lot that went wrong. I think that's

695
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: what I'm taking from this quite honestly. There's just been

696
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: a lot that's gone wrong, and you've been wrong, like

697
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: you were in the wrong. And I also think that

698
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: through it all, it's yeah, through it all, it's definitely

699
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: gonna affect you, Jed. And that's why I want to

700
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: lead this to now, is if there's closure in your

701
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: relationship and uh and you and Hannah are both gonna

702
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: move on. Want to spend I'm sorry you don't feel closer.

703
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I I feel like I have to feel closure since

704
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: she does, then I want to Luke kept begging for closer.

705
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: She's like, I have mine. Yeah, I want to spend

706
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: a second and talk about how it's affecting now your

707
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: life personally. Uh, we'll hopefully get a chance to talk

708
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: to Hannah and and break all of this down with her,

709
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: but for now you're in studio with us, and I

710
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: want to hear since all this is so all this

711
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: has came to fruition and uh, mistakes have been made,

712
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: how is it affecting your family? It's been it's been

713
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: really hard on them. You know, they don't sign up

714
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: for this, no one's family does. And for them to

715
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: get kind of dragged into the drama and turmoil, it's been.

716
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: It's been tough, you know. But the Edits and you know,

717
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: they were completely skeptical to this whole thing, and they

718
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: it was definitely taken as a Haley thing, which you know,

719
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: when I watch it, I see that. But when I

720
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: know my family that I've known my entire life, I

721
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: know for a fact that they were just really skeptical

722
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: of all this. When I hugged all them, when I

723
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: was like off camera, They're like, are you okay? Are

724
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: you okay? Is this real? Is this real? There's they

725
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, when all the cameras and all the lights

726
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: and the producers running around like it's it's something that

727
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: they just were not accustomed to. And they I think

728
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: they were honestly kind of in disbelief that I was

729
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: loving someone in this setting. I mean, as I was,

730
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: but also extremely happy that it was happening. So um,

731
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: but just seeing how much hate that you know, some

732
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: fans and um, some alumni and and more have and

733
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: are just so open to throw these things out at people.

734
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: It's it's it's sad. You know, we're all we're all human,

735
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: and we all have lives and make mistakes, and UM,

736
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: I think people kind of get carried away and feeling

737
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: like it's just you know, just a message or you know,

738
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: just an email, just a letter or whatever, and UM,

739
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: I don't realize how much it actually can affect someone's head.

740
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: Like you know, I've seen my mom. It's it's been

741
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: tough on her, you know, and I I hate it

742
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's my fault, just as I

743
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: have like on a lot of this, Like you know,

744
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: it's it comes back to me, which I'll own up,

745
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: but it's it's hard for me to see the people

746
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: I care about the most hurting because of me. Did

747
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: they know Haley? Yeah, they did, so the hometown awkwardness

748
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: or coldness or whatever. You don't think it had any

749
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: anything to do with like, oh, but he kind of

750
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: has a girlfriend here. They I did not have a girlfriend.

751
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: They knew for a fact where I stood with that.

752
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: They knew that we had never committed being exclusive. They

753
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: never thought that. My dad told me, He's like, I

754
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: never thought you guys were together. My best friend called

755
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: me when the article came out and asked me who

756
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: it was. If that tells you anything. My best friend,

757
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: my best man in my wedding, called me because he

758
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: did not know, And you know, I think that kind

759
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: of says a lot personally, but um, yeah, to answer

760
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: your question about the back to the family, So it's

761
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: been tough. I think I'm missing something. Best man in

762
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: your have you been for the best man in his

763
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: future wedding? Future wedding? I was like, man, I'm sorry

764
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: that Yeah, yeah, you know the family, So how are

765
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: where is your family at now this and um, and

766
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: I guess because we have a few more things to

767
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: move into. But where do you hope this goes first?

768
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: Where do you hope this leads? Now? Yeah? Well, firstly,

769
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: I know that my family is very thankful that I've

770
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: been given the opportunity to kind of open up and

771
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: tell my sides. So again, thank you all for for

772
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: having me. And you know it means a lot to me,

773
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: But I know it means a lot to my mom.

774
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: She was like, I told her about it this morning

775
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: and she's gonna like all crying and stuff. So she's

776
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: she's thankful as am I. But um, you know, moving forward,

777
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: I really I need to just take some time to

778
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: kind of work on my spiritual and mental health and

779
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. Um, before I make

780
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: any jumps towards anything else, that's what I want to

781
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: focus on. I I want to be better well around

782
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: and take this lesson and become the best version of

783
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: myself that I can be. I see Hannah's I don't

784
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: know all this of of course, Um, you should have.

785
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: There should have been moments where you know, there was

786
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: more details that came out sooner. But I do just

787
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: feel a lot of empathy because you are dealing with

788
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: the most frustrating situation I could possibly imagine falling in

789
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: love and then it just being completely wrecked at the

790
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: hands of someone else. It's a lot, it's a lot.

791
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: We could take a break now. Jed need to step

792
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: out of the room. I think it's fair. Uh, this

793
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: isn't exactly the most like uplifting conversation to have. UM,

794
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: and this feels weird, But because he stepped out of

795
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: the room, I think he feels it feels really weird.

796
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: But we have to talk about this at some point.

797
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: It's it's big news and in dispatch the world, and

798
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: it would feel even weirder if we did it in

799
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: front of Jed. So I think this is a good

800
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: moment to kind of discuss this and try to talk

801
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: about it while he's away. So Ashley, if he walks

802
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: back in, let's just stop. But until he does, let's

803
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: chat about Tyler and Hannah Um having their date UM.

804
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: According to a couple of sources, Tyler's with the night

805
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: at Hannah's house. It's unconfirmed. I have zero photo, so

806
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 1: it's a photo. UM. It's confirmed by our sources that

807
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: it happened at her house. The photo seems like it

808
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: did happen at her house. The paparazzi caught them this morning,

809
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Um saying goodbye goodbye. There was a kiss as seen

810
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: by the paparazzi, but said that because of camera angles

811
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: or something, they couldn't get that kiss on camera. They

812
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: hugg goodbye. But the drink stay happened last night, Thursday night,

813
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: and it looks like it turned into a sleepover. Did

814
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: you expect this? Um? Yeah? Actually yes, I did you do?

815
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: I like, actually definitely expected this completely honestly, I didn't.

816
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I did not expect them to get back together. I

817
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 1: thought that this, Yeah, I didn't think that this would happen.

818
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: I thought that it was Um. I thought they really

819
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: should move on. I thought they'd have respect for each other.

820
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: But I did not think they would actually go on

821
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: this date. And I'm proven wrong. Oh that's crazy. I

822
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: took the day extremely seriously when she asked the other night,

823
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: where do you think this goes? I mean, if if,

824
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: as a Bachelor fan now actually put that hat on,

825
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: do you want to see this work? I want to

826
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: see it work for Hannah's sake, for sure. I think

827
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: Bachelor nation is totally going to be torn because now

828
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: they have to choose between if we want Hannah and

829
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: Tyler together, which is something we've rooted for the entire season,

830
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: or if we want to see Tyler as a bachelor.

831
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: It's difficult, it's it sucks. I mean it doesn't suck.

832
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: I think we want her, Hannah to be happy and

833
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: if Tyler is going to be somebody who's going to

834
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: make her happy for a long time, then we have

835
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: to root for that. Okay, so let me ask you

836
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: this to close out this conversation. This is big news.

837
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: Now it's Tyler still with this happening then kissing, staying

838
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: together going on this day. Is Tyler at all in

839
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: consideration for the next bachelor? Is it even possible? Now?

840
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: It's hard, It's really hard. I'd say that if it's

841
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: the only way it's possible is if they like do

842
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: one of those Chris Harrison meeting things where they sit

843
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: down with Hannah and Tyler and they're like, yeah, we

844
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: gave it a couple of weeks. Um, we definitely like

845
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: each other, but we don't think we're each other's forever person.

846
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: So because of that, I think Tyler should be the Bachelor.

847
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: He has my you know, he has my vote as Bachelor.

848
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna need to see a sit down. Yeah,

849
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot is gonna have to happen in a short

850
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: amount of time. They're gonna have to figure out this relationship,

851
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: pursue this relationship, in this relationship, come to terms with

852
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: this relationship, and then sit down with Chris Harrison and

853
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: talk about it all to make it even a possibility.

854
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: I think what we should go start leaning towards is

855
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: that Tyler will probably no longer, in my opinion, be

856
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: the Bachelor or even be in the talks to be

857
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. But what we can root for is that

858
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Hannah and Tyler leave this thing happy. It feels weird

859
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: considering the conversation that we're having around this right now

860
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: with Jed, but hey, we've seen it before in Bachelor Nation.

861
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: We've seen the SWITCHERU happen, and we've seen the switcherou

862
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: become successful in two different circumstances. Jason Mesnick and Ari

863
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: come to mind. I think we should talk about that

864
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: with Jed and see how he feels about switcher rus

865
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: and what exactly happens. Is it right or wrong? Or

866
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: is that just part of this experiment. Okay, let's do that.

867
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: Vachel Nation, what do you think emails had been a

868
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: Nashley I heeart Media dot Com. Let's bring him back

869
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 1: in now, all right, and we're back with Jed. Jed,

870
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: what does four for for mean? Because it seemed as

871
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: if you use that expression with both Haley and Hannah.

872
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: It's a it's a special number to me. I have

873
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: alarm set on my phone to pray every day at

874
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: ye and it's something that I take very seriously. And

875
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: um it's presented itself along the journey, like for Hannah

876
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: and I, for example, in Greece. I can remember we

877
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: were off camera. I was picking her up to pick

878
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: a limon off a tree and to the right of

879
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: her there was like a first sale sign and her

880
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: body was blocking every number on the number like to

881
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: call them, but four four four. So like it's just

882
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: like kind of been like a spiritual thing for me,

883
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: and I like to share it with people so that

884
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: they don't have something that kind of reminds them to

885
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: pray or to give them some light when maybe it's dark.

886
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: It's something I like to share. So it didn't I

887
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: love you and the doc I talked about this earlier today.

888
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm huge in a meditation and it's something that

889
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: I also I like to share with people. I'm very

890
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: open about it. But the doc was a metaphor to

891
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: a meditation place. Okay, And you could ask Hayley that

892
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: I would take a light detector test on that. I

893
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: swear on my mother's life. That's what it was. Thank you. Now,

894
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: do you think that there's any chance that down the road,

895
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: what's meant to be will be and you and Hannah

896
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: could have a second chance at it, maybe when the

897
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: spotlight is not on you so much, maybe in like

898
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: a year or two, maybe after you do a round

899
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise and you save the reputation you show,

900
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, you show a different You get to show

901
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: a different side of you, which I don't know that

902
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: you need to show a different side of you. I

903
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: don't think your reputation would have been all tarnished during

904
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: this season if it weren't for the People magazine coming out.

905
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: I think everybody loved you before that article. You know,

906
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: just like this kind of like landed in my lap

907
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: to be able to go on this show and to

908
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: even come on this podcasts. I believe that God, well,

909
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: his will will be done, and if it's meant to be,

910
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: then it will be. Um, it would be obviously a

911
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: great thing. But I'm just like, I'm going to really

912
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: put my focus on whatever God's will is. The Jed,

913
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: the the craziest thing about this feeling or a season

914
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: was how much spirituality played into it. And and so

915
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: we get out the show now and we hear your

916
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: story and we hear the mistakes you've made. And I

917
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: want to be very clear, Jed, I would hate for

918
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: this to leave. And you've made some some terrible not terrible,

919
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: you made some really unwise decisions through this experience and

920
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: you've made and please argue with me if you don't

921
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: think so. But one of our listener emails here mentions

922
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: the comparison between what you did in and what has

923
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: happened in past seasons, UM, comparing you to like Jason Mesnick,

924
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: who is one of my good friends and I love

925
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: who made the switch, uh to Ari who is now

926
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: has a child with his wife Lauren, who UM I

927
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: guess famously UM broke up with Becca on national television.

928
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: And this listener is mentioning the comparison that this happens

929
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: more than what we like to admit to. What about

930
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: your situation? And I say this leading in with the

931
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: I think he made some really want unwise decisions. What

932
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: about your situation makes it so much worse? If so?

933
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, obviously, what makes it worse to

934
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: me is that it's it's me. Um, I'm the one

935
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: living at and I care about the people who are

936
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: also living at. And UM, who am I or anyone

937
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: to judge anyone's prior mistakes or choices? Um, I'm only

938
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm only accountable for my own and UM, you know

939
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't feel like minds any better, any worse than

940
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: what has happened before. It's I mean, it's it's mine.

941
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to answer that. I mean,

942
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: I think you did. I think what you're saying. Is

943
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: is it any worse? And the answers, I don't know

944
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: if it is, and I don't I don't. I would

945
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: love for our listeners to weigh in on this. UM,

946
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: please email us or use the hashtag almost famous podcast.

947
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: Let us know is Jed's situation or his how this

948
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: ended for Jed worse better? Or is it just not

949
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: even comparable? To what we've seen in the past during

950
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: this the show. It also just in in you know life. Uh,

951
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: I have a buddy who was dating somebody met Um

952
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: it's one of my best friends actually that I've just

953
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: thought about this now. Um, I met a girl at

954
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: the bar, fell in love with her, broke up with

955
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, and now is married to that girl at

956
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: the bar. So I guess I'm at loscity. Is that wrong? Right?

957
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, Actually, what do you think? Well, in

958
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: my situation is a little bit different because I was

959
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: in love with Jared's for so long beforehand. But yeah,

960
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean I definitely wasn't an angel. It wasn't perfect

961
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: in that situation at all. I think I got a

962
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: little grace because it was Jared. Um. I agree. I

963
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: also and that you had loved him for so long. Yeah, totally.

964
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't I kissed him once in my

965
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: wall in the other relationship. Um, but I'm I definitely

966
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: was too emotionally involved with another man while dating somebody else,

967
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: And that's okay, that's my thing. I don't know if

968
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: it's okay. I don't I don't know if I don't

969
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: think it's okay. I don't think think it's a personal decision,

970
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: because for me it's okay because you got to where

971
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: you are now and we all have to trust the

972
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: path we're on and the and that journey. In my opinion,

973
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: it's just my opinion, I think it sucks the some

974
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: people um have to be the contrast for whatever is

975
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: better for another person sometimes and you know, it doesn't

976
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: mean they deserve that or that it's right, but that

977
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: is That's kind of how life goes sometimes. You know,

978
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: it's just you know, you might think you love someone,

979
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: but then when true love kind of shows itself, then

980
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 1: you're kind of hit in the face with like damn,

981
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: Like what was I What was I feeling? Thinking? What

982
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: was that moment for you? During the season, and you're like, oh, wow,

983
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: this is real love. I I could feel it building

984
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: and myself in Boston it was just like this unexplainable

985
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: feeling and people were asking me like, what is it?

986
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? And you know, there

987
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: was just not another word for it, and I knew

988
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: that it was. It was happening fast and it was

989
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: very real. And when Hannah and I stepped into the

990
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: photo booth in Boston and for only probably like three minutes.

991
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: You know, we shut the curtain, and I guess before

992
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: it was filmed, filming and stuff in there, there was

993
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: like a go pro but I just like looked at

994
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: her and kind of in that moment for me, I

995
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: was like, this is this feels like it the d

996
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: take a second here, I'm gonna I'm gonna fill them

997
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: because I think we're moving past something. That's a pretty

998
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: I guess compelling comment from Amy and compared to Ashley

999
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: and myself, and you know, I don't know, And I

1000
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: really want our listeners to voice their opinions on this

1001
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: because the situation is this, let's take you out of it. Jet.

1002
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: Let's just for the sake of of not talking about

1003
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: one single person. This is life, right, So say you're

1004
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: in a relationship with somebody you're dating and it's committed, right,

1005
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: it's monogamous. You've had that conversation, Um, things are going fine,

1006
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: maybe not great, maybe we don't even know how good

1007
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: they're going. And then all of a sudden, loves slaps

1008
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: you in the face and you meet somebody that completely

1009
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: changes your world. Listeners, please, we need your advice here.

1010
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: What do you do? And I mean from from what

1011
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: you're saying, Jet is you ended this relationship with Haley

1012
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: Um before you went on, and so it was kind

1013
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: of free range for you rain for you to go

1014
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: after Hannah, not knowing where that would take you. I

1015
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: guess my comment to all of this is I feel

1016
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: super lucky that I've never had to be put in

1017
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: that situation. You know, like I absolutely love Jessica, and

1018
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: if I if Jessica wa into a room and I

1019
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: didn't know her, I bet my world would stop, Like

1020
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: I bet things, like my whole paradigm would shift, like

1021
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: she changed me. But at the same time, it's hard

1022
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: for me to even relate with this because there is

1023
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: no possible way I would let my heart go towards

1024
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: anybody else right now at all. Like it's inconceivable for

1025
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: me to even think about anybody else entering into my

1026
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: world while I'm in a relationship with Jessica, because she's

1027
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: the right one, that's my That's my question for you, Amy,

1028
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: is then and Listeners, when do we know it's the

1029
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: right one? Because it would be really unfair to any

1030
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: person if you're dating and you think it's the right

1031
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: one and then all of a sudden they find out

1032
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: when you're in a community that that they weren't based

1033
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: on you being with somebody else. I I mean, maybe

1034
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: you said it happens. How do you explain that moment?

1035
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: Is it just always like heartbreaking? Well, of course it's

1036
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: always heartbreaking, but the same respect Ashley is with Jared

1037
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: and marrying him, even how it came around, because it's

1038
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: more true or the one or whatever the word people choose,

1039
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: and I believe the same for you. I saw you

1040
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: Ben when you broke up with Lauren, and it was

1041
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: it was so brutal, like I could cry right now

1042
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: the pain might I felt because of the pain you

1043
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: were in. It was horrible. So that doesn't mean that

1044
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't love. But this is different and dare I

1045
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: say better? And my thing for Jed is that Jed

1046
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: knew on some level that the previous relationship love whatever

1047
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: you wanna call it, wasn't totally it or he never

1048
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: would have gone on this show and he never would

1049
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: have said to her like ended if you need to

1050
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: or were not committed, like he might have done things wrong.

1051
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not perfect, but on some level they knew.

1052
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get a million letters on this, but

1053
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: if her love was true, the truest love, she would

1054
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: have never gone to People magazine. Well, I think she

1055
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't have let you go on the show. Yeah, that

1056
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: was my point earlier. Is it's like I would I

1057
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: don't understand why, Like it would be okay no matter

1058
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: what I said, Like, can you like then imagine you

1059
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: know you're with um, what's her name, Jessica Jica? Alright,

1060
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: so you're with Jessica. This is before you know you're married,

1061
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: and you know you're you're in love with her, so

1062
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: you say, but she tries to convince you that it's

1063
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: okay that she's gonna go do a dating show? How

1064
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: are you going to be on that? Yeah? That's wild

1065
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: to me. That makes me sick to my stomach. It does?

1066
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: I get that point? Now? She was sug she would

1067
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,959
Speaker 1: never throw Jessica under the bus, no matter how hurt

1068
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: he was, And I know that with every ounce of me,

1069
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: she could break his heart and he would not hurt

1070
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: or like that. Yeah, I never thought about that way,

1071
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: is yeah if she if Jessica thinking about Jessica now,

1072
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: the woman that I'm in love with, and she goes, yeah,

1073
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on a dating show to see where

1074
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: it ends up. No, yeah, I mean that would have

1075
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: been proof to me that you weren't that into me. Mhm.

1076
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: I never thought about it, but I have a question,

1077
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: why not American Idol or the Voice if you're trying

1078
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: to pursue a music career. This this lended in my lap.

1079
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, had American Idol messaged me and said, you know,

1080
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: come do this, come do that, maybe I would have.

1081
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: But this, this was what was presented in front of me.

1082
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: I prayed about it, and it felt like the right

1083
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: thing to do, and I believe it was. We just

1084
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: don't know that yet. There will be something I don't

1085
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: know that shows that this was the path you were

1086
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: supposed to go on. Even if you learn, never to

1087
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: make this mistake again. I thoroughly believe that's what at

1088
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: this moment it is. You know, it's like the worst

1089
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: way to learn this lesson. It's the most painful way.

1090
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: It's in front of God and everyone, and you know, wholeheartedly,

1091
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: I have learned, and I have changed, and I want

1092
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: to live, you know, a different life. Did I feel

1093
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: like from here on forward, you are never going to

1094
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: give You're going to give exact details and straight up

1095
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: and open honesty everywhere you got I'm gonna tell like

1096
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: way too much info to everyone. That bad. I mean,

1097
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: let's let's posters. I mean, that's not a bad thing.

1098
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: That's a good lesson learned, Jed. I mean, if your

1099
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: lesson learned from all of this is as simple as

1100
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: and maybe not, I mean maybe this isn't even simple.

1101
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: Is from here on out, my honesty and my openness

1102
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: and my vulnerability is going to far outwigh anything I'm

1103
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: trying to hide. Then there's been heartbreak, and there's been tears,

1104
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: and there's been really unfortunate emotional damage done in the process.

1105
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: But if that's the lesson you learn, UM, then I

1106
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: would have to say some good is coming out of it.

1107
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: The second is Amy, You, out of anybody, has been um.

1108
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: Especially during this podcast, you've been on Jed's side in

1109
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: a sense where you understand his circumstance and you understand

1110
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: how this played out. I think it's it's fair for

1111
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: our listeners and myself and Ashley. Because I might disagree

1112
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: with you, that's what makes this podcast so beautiful, is

1113
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: my opinion might be. Yeah, once you're in a relationship

1114
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: with somebody, there isn't any going around it. But at

1115
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: the same time, I can definitely see, um, well, let

1116
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: me use this for example, when I went on Winter Games,

1117
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: I was dating. When I went on Winter Games, you

1118
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: were like open to dating and trying dating definitely like I.

1119
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: I didn't go on Winter Games when I was like,

1120
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, how many months would you had to go

1121
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: without dating to then say I'm open to going on

1122
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: a show to see if there's my love of my

1123
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: life there. I just knew it wasn't the love of

1124
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: my life. I knew I had not met the love

1125
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: of my life and that in that season, and so

1126
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: I said, I'll give this thing a shot. And I think, jed,

1127
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is for the difference maybe is that

1128
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: that you were sharing the I love yous and that

1129
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: you were sharing a vacation and and those are the

1130
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: things that I'm not fully grasping is if you're willing

1131
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: to share that and say that. But again, there's one

1132
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: person in the world that knows how you say I

1133
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: love you on national television. It's me, buddy. Um so Amy,

1134
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm not able to say I'm old. I'm

1135
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: forty five, so I can look back at a time

1136
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: when I fully believed I was in love with someone

1137
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: completely Okay, like the love ist love, love, strong, painful love,

1138
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,479
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So like that means

1139
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: it's not a perfect love. And I know that it's

1140
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: possible to very quickly fall in love with someone else

1141
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: that is a better love and it cures you of

1142
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: the unfortunate or toxic love that you had before. That's

1143
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: maybe the best way I can explain it. You think

1144
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: the love was right, and it isn't until that other

1145
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: person comes along and you realize this is what I want,

1146
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: this is better. I would like that. I was just

1147
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: going to touch on the vacation thing, if that's okay, Sure, Okay.

1148
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: So the Bahama trip was a surprise gift from Hayley's

1149
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: parents to her for her birthday, which she happened to

1150
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: share with me on my birthday. Um, they covered the

1151
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: cost and we went and did this. And it wasn't

1152
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: until three days before I fled to the Bahamas that

1153
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: I knew that I was going on the show I had.

1154
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: There was still no for sure. I hadn't been called back,

1155
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: and that was that was that. Um was it right

1156
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: for me to go? Maybe not? But know, up until

1157
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: that point, we had already bought flights and it happened,

1158
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 1: and you had told her that you had been fully

1159
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: cast at that point it was three days before, and

1160
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: she she could have, I guess, to play Devil's advocate,

1161
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: been like, well, I don't want you to go anymore,

1162
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't want you to go in the vacation

1163
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: with me anymore. Right, I think she just didn't think

1164
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: that you were going to make it as I don't think.

1165
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't think I expected to have

1166
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: fall in love like, I mean, she's not wrong for that,

1167
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: but it's like you just my advice to anyone doing

1168
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: the show is to just come in with a very

1169
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: open mind that you might actually meet your person here.

1170
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: I know, isn't it crazy? Yeah? You just you would

1171
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: not think that at all. Just you might go there

1172
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: for every wrong reason possible, but the person that God

1173
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: intends for you to be with might be there. So

1174
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: going with that mindset, gen to clear our close things

1175
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: up here on the conversation about you and Hannah, Um,

1176
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: what did you do wrong? Let's just be if we

1177
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 1: can break down this whole story, sum it up. Where

1178
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: did you go wrong? I should have told her absolutely everything,

1179
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: get the fantasy suites. That's my biggest regret. I you know,

1180
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: I wish I would have done that, and um, that's

1181
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: that's what I wish I would have done. It's a

1182
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,839
Speaker 1: good answer. It's a good enough answer. And then finally,

1183
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: do you wish Hannah would have handled anything differently? Um?

1184
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: As this things played out? And if so, what I

1185
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: I understand how she's hurt. I mean, this is hard.

1186
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: This was her you know, this was her journey and um,

1187
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: not to say that it wasn't a lot of the

1188
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: other guy's journey too, but like I mean, this is

1189
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: this was about her finding her person ultimately, So I

1190
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: understand why she's so upset. And you know, it's so

1191
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: hard once you hit that moment of engagement on there

1192
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: to not want to go scream from the top of

1193
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 1: the mountain that you know you found your person and

1194
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: to feel like that wasn't the case after all that

1195
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: commitment has already happened is heavy and hard. So I

1196
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: do not condemn her fulfilling the way she does. Should

1197
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: we jump into Tyler? We have to ask Tyler? Yeah,

1198
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: And I feel bad we have to do this with you,

1199
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: but we're gonna have to do this with you, Jed,

1200
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: how do you feel about Hannah asking Tyler out for

1201
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: drinks and that we have some further information on that.

1202
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: Do we really need to do that with them here?

1203
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: We can maybe? Um, you know, going into that, you know,

1204
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: I had so many emotions, and you know, ultimately I

1205
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to let her know how much remorseful and

1206
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: sorry I was. But I just had a to feeling

1207
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: that something was going to come up like that, and

1208
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really have anything negative to say

1209
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: about it. I just ultimately wanted to be happy. Well, yeah,

1210
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: we can talk about it when you leave them. Yeah,

1211
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: are do? We should we get into some lighter fan

1212
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: questions now, there is one question I really like. Is

1213
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: it a question or a statement? It's a question, did

1214
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: you pack any other jackets than the brown one while

1215
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: you were filming? Are you talking about the leather one?

1216
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: That's what I was just going to ask, because it

1217
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: was the most like question I could read. Oh my god, So, um,

1218
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: you know, the packing list is huge and my suitcase

1219
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: was only so big, and I was like, you know,

1220
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: surely we're going to be in tropical places, so I

1221
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: should just bring probably one jacket. So that's that's exactly

1222
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: what I did. So you know, I looked like a

1223
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: hunter gatherer for for most of the show. And you know,

1224
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Um, what is the what's

1225
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: the dog music jingle that you came up with? What's

1226
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: what dog food is it for? That's a pretty big

1227
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: I know they are, but like that's a pretty big deal.

1228
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: I'll talk about Charlie. She made a living on that

1229
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: in two and a half man. Yeah, and he lived

1230
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: on the Pacific Coast Highway. Yeah. I mean, I think

1231
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: dogs are awesome, and I also think royalties are awesome.

1232
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed of that, and I think that you know,

1233
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: it is a joke right now, and to be honest,

1234
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: I laugh about it too. It's it's a funny thing

1235
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 1: to hear. But I just really thought the company was

1236
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: cool and what they were about seem cool, and so

1237
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: I got on board. And you know, her dad asked

1238
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: me what my most recent achievement was or whatever greatest achievement.

1239
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: But I don't think he weighed out the actual possibilities

1240
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: of it, which is fine. I mean, outside looking in,

1241
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: if you don't know anything, then it's like that sounds

1242
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: so stupid, But I'm dog jingle doesn't sound stupid to

1243
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: me at all? How many times? And are you like

1244
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: looking for something? You're like, I need blinds. Then you're like, oh,

1245
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: then you like sing the jingle for blinds or something.

1246
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: It's like those things really work. Can you sing us

1247
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: the jingle? Or is it like totally copyrighted? This would

1248
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: not be a show with Jed unless we got him

1249
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 1: singing at some point, but we can't do it because

1250
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: of copy right. Uh. I think the company is gonna

1251
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: love the shout out. They probably would appreciate it it.

1252
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: Of course, I drink coffee and haven't slept in days,

1253
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: so here we'll go for it, but shout out better balls.

1254
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: You guys have been cool to me. Um, all right, Yes,

1255
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: we're here. You've got our support. We are with you.

1256
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: Jet all right, all right. If you really want to

1257
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: give your dog the best, you gotta pick him up

1258
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 1: some bed a bow. Yes, finally something to smile over. Right.

1259
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: You can also smile over the fact that I think

1260
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: you look like a young justin Timberlake. Wow, thank you,

1261
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: You're welcome. You don't think I look like broccoli head?

1262
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: Who's broccoli? That's that's the memes I'm saying, I'm brocco. Heead,

1263
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: it's fine. It's fine, broccoli head, because I was critical.

1264
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: But we've never been critical like that. We would never

1265
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: make fun of that, not a broccoli head. You're a

1266
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: young justin Timberlake. We only make fun. Don't know if

1267
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: you're a young justin Timberlake in any way whatsoever. I

1268
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: don't get that. Really, my sister saw it too. I

1269
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,799
Speaker 1: know who you look like, but I can't bring myself

1270
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: to bring it up because yeah, I can't handle talking

1271
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: about it. No handsome but just like too many scars,

1272
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: too much pain and damage. I'm curious, all right, what

1273
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: was your favorite off scene moment on The Bachelor at

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Speaker 1: that didn't have to include maybe not including Hannah, like

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Speaker 1: a good bro moment I have, like I have, I

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Speaker 1: have three? Okay, yeah, tell us all three. So while

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Speaker 1: we were still at the mansion, Dylan Barber and I

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Speaker 1: would put on these ridiculously colored suits that he brought.

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Speaker 1: One was catchup red and the other was mustard yellow,

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Speaker 1: and we would put we would put sunglasses on, and

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Speaker 1: we would go interrupt people's interviews, and then we would

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Speaker 1: sit on a couch and talk with the emotion you've

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Speaker 1: ever heard in your life about literally everyone. It was

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Speaker 1: just a roast fest. Will you be watching Paradise? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it starts this Monday because your friends are on it. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Second moment was also at the Mansion. I was sitting

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Speaker 1: outside on the couch and John Paul I can't even say,

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Speaker 1: we have a laugh. That's great. It's like insects in

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Speaker 1: the City, you know the movie when they're like something

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Speaker 1: one day, really funny. He's going to make you laugh

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Speaker 1: and nothing is funnier than diarrhea. Oh god, I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that in the city. Um So, John Paul

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Speaker 1: Jones walks over and he's kind of purchased, like Smegel

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Speaker 1: from Lord of the Rings, next to me on the

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Speaker 1: couch and he's drinking some cocktail and he's glaring around,

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Speaker 1: and then he glares at me and he says, oh God,

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Speaker 1: get it out. He's like, oh shoot, I was. I

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Speaker 1: was really hoping they were filming. This is a really

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Speaker 1: cool way to sit. I have not forgotten that. And

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Speaker 1: I think the third was also a John Paul Jones moment,

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Speaker 1: like I love that guy so much. He just he's

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Speaker 1: inevitably himself no matter what's going on or where he is,

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Speaker 1: and he deserves all the love in the world. But

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Speaker 1: we were it was at the Bay a by date

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Speaker 1: and Um we had just kind of like switched scenes

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Speaker 1: or whatever, and they had started filming again, and no

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Speaker 1: one knew where he went. Oh god, he was back

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Speaker 1: in the labor chair. He was hot, he was he

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Speaker 1: was tucked down behind the rocking chairs where they were

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Speaker 1: like doing like the nursing thing and taking his undershirt

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Speaker 1: off under his shirt like doing these things. He didn't

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Speaker 1: want anybody to see his chest. Yea, no one knew

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Speaker 1: where he went. And he popped up and he was

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Speaker 1: just like saying something was up with his pits or something.

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Speaker 1: It was just funny. Everyone lost it. We're going to

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Speaker 1: see a lot of those moments in Paradise. Think do

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Speaker 1: you declare? I'm sure I have a feeling jed Once again,

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Speaker 1: man Um, thanks for coming on the podcast. I know

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Speaker 1: it's been a big day. I know you've been all

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Speaker 1: over the place. Uh. We like to do this with

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Speaker 1: every in depth UM episode and in any time anybody

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Speaker 1: really comes onto the podcast to explain who they are

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Speaker 1: and what they're doing. Uh, your question is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. We typically ask what do you

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Speaker 1: want your legacy to be? Like, how do you want

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Speaker 1: people to remember you? I think it's appropriate for me

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Speaker 1: to ask you in a moment, in a season where

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Speaker 1: things are swirling around you and there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: negativity and confusion, and I am super interested in seeing

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Speaker 1: the responses um from our listeners on how they would

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Speaker 1: handle a situation similar to yours. But I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you, Jed, to close out this podcast, what do

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Speaker 1: you want fans to know about you? And in a sense,

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Speaker 1: what is your plea to anybody listening to clear up

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Speaker 1: all that's happening, to admit to any fault, and also

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Speaker 1: how you would hope everybody can move forward together. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. I think that I'm human and

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Speaker 1: that I make mistakes. I make them daily. Um I'm

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Speaker 1: not perfect. I'm not perfect, I never will be. But

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Speaker 1: I've I've learned my lesson through all of this and

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Speaker 1: that I do want to grow and I will grow,

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Speaker 1: and that I want the absolute best for Hannah. I

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Speaker 1: want her to be happy. I have nothing but love

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Speaker 1: for love and support for her with the guys, and

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Speaker 1: you know, for the fact that like though it's been

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Speaker 1: hard that I have learned one of the biggest lessons

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Speaker 1: in my life. Hey, ma'am, we aren't learning lessons, we

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Speaker 1: ain't doing some things right. So again I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. I can't say I agree with

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Speaker 1: every decision you made. I honestly would tell you I

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Speaker 1: disagree with some of them. Um. But what I can

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Speaker 1: say is is talking to you today, any any human

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Speaker 1: that will admit fault um is somebody I can respect

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Speaker 1: and uh, even amongst the things that's been done and

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Speaker 1: the people that's been heard along the way, I can

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Speaker 1: at least say um. It takes a big person to

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Speaker 1: say they're wrong, especially um when the world is watching.

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Speaker 1: So with that, this has been in depth with Jed Wyatt.

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Speaker 1: I've been been all along, I've been Ashley, and I

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Speaker 1: have been Jed. Guys for having me, of course, it's

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Speaker 1: been very nice to have you here right. Follow the

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Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio

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