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Speaker 1: We's Avenue wes Abnue was appening. Welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: the gainst the Chronicles podcast. Is your boy, big Steal?

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Speaker 1: The homie MC eight is out of town for this one,

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Speaker 1: but I'm holding it down and I got somebody that's

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Speaker 1: real special. I got one of the La Kings, one

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Speaker 1: of the real La Kings, one of the Kings of

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Speaker 1: La out here, the homeboy Big q Bone. I love

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Speaker 1: from fifty second in Broadway.

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Speaker 2: I lost all the South central La that really signed

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Speaker 2: low bottles. Man, you already know the earth is my turf, now.

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Speaker 1: Your turf, and you just move like you please. Man,

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Speaker 1: we gonna go right into it. Man, you had you

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Speaker 1: played a real pivotal role man in the riots out here, Yes,

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Speaker 1: a real.

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Speaker 2: Privlet role in nineteen ninety two. Man, that that changed

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Speaker 2: the course of my life to make me the person

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Speaker 2: I am today. I'll probably be in jail or dead

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Speaker 2: by now if it wasn't for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this, man. So it's nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety two, man, they read the verdict was what was

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Speaker 1: the temperature in La at that time? Was everybody kind

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Speaker 1: of looking at the news to wait to see what

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Speaker 1: the verdict was gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be yeah, And you know, actually it was a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that you know, me, I was at home

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Speaker 2: looking at the news when the verdict came down. I

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Speaker 2: was at home during that time, about three or four,

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Speaker 2: four or five o'clock. Yeah, I was at home. But

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Speaker 2: a lot of people at home, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: out of the streets. And the anger went up fast

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Speaker 2: because of that television that televised on the news. And

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Speaker 2: then when they televised on seventieth to Florence or normany

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Speaker 2: really on seventieth. That triggered every day. When they triggered seventieth,

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Speaker 2: that triggered every day. It wasn't about the anger that

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Speaker 2: triggered it. It was about the little dude. When they

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Speaker 2: said that Rodney getting found guilty, I mean the officers

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Speaker 2: found not guilty, the anger erupted. Of course, it could

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Speaker 2: have been tried as a protest. It probably wasn't even

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Speaker 2: hit like it hit he. People don't realize he wasn't the.

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Speaker 3: Beginning. He was like the ending part. He wasn't even end.

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Speaker 3: He was the middle.

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Speaker 2: The Indian part came when the verdict came through, and

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Speaker 2: the little dude with the police was trying to put

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Speaker 2: a little dude in a cross Sebbeth and Normandy, and

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't get in, and they jumped on it. And

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Speaker 2: then you know the parents, Noughty would say, let them

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Speaker 2: boys go, and the brothers over there they were like, man,

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Speaker 2: we leave alone, leaven alone. And when the parents mad,

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Speaker 2: they're not telling us stop now, they're like, just turn.

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Speaker 3: The chick ain't saying nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's just two overen women now, Tatasha Harlings that

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Speaker 2: Verder come up that guilty and they throwing this little

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Speaker 2: dude in the car on their seven Normandy and that

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Speaker 2: that rupted everything right there.

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Speaker 1: So it just ripped it so so seven Yet the

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Speaker 1: Normandy was kind of like the epicenter.

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Speaker 2: It was the epicenter of the civil unrest. That's that's

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Speaker 2: straight out. That is, they ain't no changing around it,

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Speaker 2: because the news showed that. And once we've seen what

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Speaker 2: was taking place on seventh and Normandy, that transform the

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Speaker 2: Florence of Normandy and the next block over.

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Speaker 3: The whole world blew up on that.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, every hood l a start doing what they were

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Speaker 2: doing Seventh to Normandy and then a slightness little way, And.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question, when did the

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Speaker 1: when did all the games come to giving to say

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Speaker 1: the truths? Like wounds there?

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Speaker 2: Okay, the ross April twenty nine, because civil rest April

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Speaker 2: twenty nine. So let's say I made the fifth, made

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Speaker 2: a fifth a couple of days later. You know you

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Speaker 2: had to you had to the loot move off for

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Speaker 2: predations of the thirtieth thirty first first of May, second

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Speaker 2: of May. You know you had my Hood Day, but

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Speaker 2: Coast Guard people coming through the hummer. So it was

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Speaker 2: still a while. The peace treaty took place in watts

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Speaker 2: Uh that day back like the second week, like they

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Speaker 2: in watch that with Bull, a compone from Avalon talking

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Speaker 2: from five tra Avalon, which is down at by Mindhood.

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Speaker 2: We share the same parts community. When Bull left them,

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Speaker 2: he came to us. Then we went to the Pebblo

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Speaker 2: where he went to the Peblo the villains and brought

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Speaker 2: through social media, but social media wasn't wasn't big back then.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't. It wasn't no social media, it wasn't no.

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Speaker 2: Fan was none of that. So so when that happened.

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Speaker 2: So when that happened, everybody, it just spread it throughout

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Speaker 2: to the pj's and we went to the pj's that

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Speaker 2: everybody was there half.

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Speaker 3: Of l A.

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Speaker 2: As days went on and days went on from that

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Speaker 2: and forth from our community to Pebblo to the Jordan

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Speaker 2: downs to the Niggason to Chrisshaw, you know, so I

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Speaker 2: started coming together all that within all that before Mother's

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Speaker 2: second week, so like a week before that.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, I have to ask you this

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Speaker 1: big q boll. Was there any resistance on some of

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Speaker 1: the gas part to take part in this peace treaty

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Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of people love, you know,

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Speaker 1: lifelong enemies.

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Speaker 2: It was a whole lot of resistance. It was a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of resists. You gotta realized the first part

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Speaker 2: came in through the heart. I think that God places

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Speaker 2: peace and all our hearts and gang members alone during

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Speaker 2: the time they called Ryan civil unarrest whatever you want

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And you know, because a lot of people was out

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Speaker 2: doing activities they don't normally do.

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Speaker 3: I've seen them moon hours. I was out there.

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Speaker 2: So when you got Reverend mom Dad, Survival of Fitters,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's just like Jim crowlog back and

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Speaker 2: then you gotta get what you get.

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Speaker 3: She just burn it down.

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Speaker 2: Ain't gonna be no gas tomorrow, ain't gonna be no

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Speaker 3: No lights, So you better go grab what you can

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Speaker 3: and come in on it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people did a lot of stuff, you know,

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Speaker 2: whether it was money for financing, whether it was food

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Speaker 3: You know they need it, they drave it. It was. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was just open.

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Speaker 2: So when I think them blaming us, you know the

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Speaker 3: Oh, the game was starting to ride because Florence and

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Speaker 3: mart took place.

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Speaker 1: We started.

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Speaker 3: I think God plays peace in our hearts for us

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Speaker 3: to come at peace.

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Speaker 2: In order to make everybody else come at peace, so

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Speaker 2: we can clean our neighborhood. Before we really tell them,

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Speaker 2: it realized we're doing something that we ain't supposed to

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Speaker 2: be doing to our own community.

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Speaker 3: If anything, we should be head in the west, but

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Speaker 3: we didn't head west.

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Speaker 2: We stayed right there on community, in our own front yard,

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Speaker 3: We breathing in our own our own resources. That's goned.

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Speaker 2: It's not coming back right now. So whatever we destroy

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Speaker 2: is gone. And you know that's why we created peace.

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Speaker 1: Because would you agree that some of the neighborhoods neighbor

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Speaker 1: fully recovered from the riots.

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Speaker 3: Of course, a whole lot of people were on the

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Speaker 2: The west side recovered to an extent, but the east

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Speaker 3: Never was no businesses.

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Speaker 2: It's only mom and pop businesses, the Mexican businesses and stuff,

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Speaker 2: epy buildings, abandoned buildings, the ship used to add them

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Speaker 1: Because I remember I talked to I talked to a

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Speaker 1: lot of the ogs back in the day the own

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Speaker 1: liquor stores right like kind of the last of them,

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Speaker 1: Like you had Jay's Liquor over the off Western and

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Speaker 1: all that. And they told me that prior to the

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Speaker 1: riots like in the seventies, that all the liquor stores

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Speaker 1: and that they were black.

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Speaker 3: Not even seen the liquors was a black man.

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Speaker 2: The Asians didn't come the ages came in our community

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Speaker 2: back then. Uh, when they came up. When the Koreans

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Speaker 2: so we didn't know Vietnam Mese. We know between Vietnam

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Speaker 2: me Chinese Campbodians and the camp bodies grewup in the

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Speaker 2: no Koreans. When the swap meets opened up, that's when

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Speaker 2: they swap meets, the Sloughs and Swap Meet, the Manchester

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Speaker 2: Swapped Meet on eighty eighth Broadway and turned over there there.

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Speaker 2: Remember that to swapped me behind the crunch yall mall

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Once they once the Koreans started moving in our communities

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Speaker 2: the motels and they started ending the white stuff, you know,

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Speaker 2: start buying out the blacks, and mesic started buying out the.

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Speaker 3: Blacks for the liquor stores and stuff.

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Speaker 2: We was off the picture because you gotta realize these

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Speaker 2: old dudes and have my generation they went passing it down.

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Speaker 3: There because we was in jail.

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Speaker 2: Most of my generation was in jail doing light stings,

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Speaker 2: went to jail at young age in the early eighties

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Speaker 2: in like eighty four eighty five.

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Speaker 3: So us that was supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Take leading that and we went and never went to

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Speaker 2: jail in the eighties and stayed out and being successful,

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Speaker 2: we'd took over that. That that inheritance of liquor store

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Speaker 2: mom and pop stores. See that's of our generation. I'm

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Speaker 2: sixty years old, so before before me, only two generations

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Speaker 2: before me had the opportunity to fulfill big mama liquor stores,

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Speaker 2: mommed pop store, trips to school, hanging, you know, going

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Speaker 2: to Magic Model on the Greyhound bus. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, really walking down the street twenty and thirty

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Speaker 2: deep and really fighting the squadron. Let's shoot them, were

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Speaker 2: fighting the squadron and really gangbaging, not wald Magan Ourselfhe

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Speaker 2: megan not ending that Magaan and I fake banking because

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Speaker 2: half these dudes couldn't stand a blocking on.

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Speaker 3: Shoot that's in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm I'm the eighties baby, I'm I'm the baby

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Speaker 2: that started nineteen eighty. My generation came nineteen eighty. My

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Speaker 2: crippers started nineteen eighty. I was I'm fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Old nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 2: Ohdeen years old, fourteen, fifteen years old.

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Speaker 3: I was fifteen years old.

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Speaker 2: I came out of junior high school junior high schools

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Speaker 2: when my banging generation started banking.

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Speaker 3: I didn't gain bang the junior high because I didn't

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Speaker 2: I told I told you to go to hustling. Right,

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Speaker 2: I'll be a hustler. But you know, situations made me

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Speaker 2: go join the gang because it's my lifetime, My my

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Speaker 2: my daddy, my uncles, my friends, everybody gave back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're because because like you were second generation

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Speaker 1: game member. Yeah, I'm a second generation because your mama,

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Speaker 2: Pops from my mom the papers from businessman's lost my

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Speaker 3: My daddy was one of the originators in the washing riots.

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Speaker 1: Oh so they were from the businessmen. That's Maddie. My

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Speaker 2: When I came up from the hospital June fourth, nineteen

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Speaker 3: My MoMA pushed me in a basket during the wash Wiatt.

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Speaker 3: They pushed me home.

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Speaker 2: And you know, so I live with my great grandmother

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Speaker 2: all these time this year, but they hung at my grad.

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Speaker 2: They hung at the house to all my growing up years,

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Speaker 2: even when I got five, six, seven, eight, Very White

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Speaker 2: cook eggs my mama and get her in trouble. See White,

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Speaker 2: he's my big hofer. But Bill Jones, tou Dy Reese,

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Speaker 2: all these old things, Central Avenue, Broadway, that was nice

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Speaker 2: snuffing ground as a kid under White. He see Whitey

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Speaker 2: and all them. It's my big hoferes. They three years

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you this? Because Verry White is from

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Speaker 1: Wat's right, Barry White is from over now here.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, Barry White is from south central Los

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Speaker 2: Angele east side Lost South Park business Man's.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So so Barry Waite was a part of the

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Speaker 1: businessmen and the businessman And for those that don't know,

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Speaker 1: the businessmen, that predates cripping, that predates actually crippling in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all the all of the bunions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the businessman stopped in sixty five after the washt Riots,

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Speaker 3: So from sixty five, sixty six, sixty seven, sixty eight,

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Speaker 3: wasn't no gangs.

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Speaker 2: Now that it was ready, black panthers had moved in

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Speaker 2: the US organization. They had stopped after the ride. They

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Speaker 2: came like we came together that peace. They came together

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Speaker 2: that's at Raymond Washington decided he gonna start the crips.

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Speaker 2: The brims that came out the outlaws had already been

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Speaker 2: to certain blood games have already been around, took over

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Speaker 2: the name from original sixty five games.

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Speaker 3: The Businessman, the Slaughter them like the Outlaws in the twenties.

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Speaker 2: They're blood game, but there's an original game back fighting

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Speaker 2: The Businessman, the Pabblos. They the project. They alread in

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Speaker 2: the Pablo the Jordan Downs with Jordan Downs. They wasn't

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Speaker 2: Grave Streets, there wasn't nothing. It was called Jordan Down Project.

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Speaker 3: That was it. You know, Niggas and God they lived

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Speaker 3: by that, so you know the JD's, that was them.

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Speaker 3: So when we.

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Speaker 2: Came in too, cripp in the sixty nine with Right

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Speaker 2: and watching the start the christ sixty nine, they didn't

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Speaker 3: I watched them start in my neighborhood on South Park,

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Speaker 3: the Avalon Crypt.

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Speaker 2: I watched the Leader, Baby Jay, we can go all

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Speaker 2: the Donald, Ray Black, Johnny all the on my corner

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Speaker 2: three houses from me, the same way the Businessman. I

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Speaker 2: watched them grow up. I played baseball. I used to

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Speaker 2: watch them do something. I wanted to be just like them,

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Speaker 2: you know what I think said, I want to be.

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Speaker 3: A rapper when I grow up.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be ap when I go, But then

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Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to be no crip. I

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Speaker 2: want to be a hustler. Because there's hustles on the

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Speaker 2: east side. You gotta realize South Central, Central Avenue and

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Speaker 2: Broadway with the epic center for the Blacks period, points

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Speaker 2: blank period. Broadway was a whole show. It was straight trenches,

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Speaker 2: it was straight straight going on. It was straight hold

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Speaker 2: what no figure war cracking. Everything western of Harvey Freeway

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Speaker 2: was considered the west side. They had good lifestyle, good

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Speaker 2: family home. We had good home, but we lived in

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Speaker 2: hustle life. Our great grandmother gone worked hard to get

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Speaker 2: us down south here. We was raised up right there

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Speaker 2: in South Central walking the streets.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now you talked about we had the year

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Speaker 1: you talk about you jumped off the porch cubbone. That's

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Speaker 1: really important because you talk about nineteen eighty When did

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Speaker 1: the crack era hit out there? When did the crack

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Speaker 1: are kind of start.

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Speaker 3: Hitting out right?

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Speaker 1: Eighty two eighty two, so right around so you got the.

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Speaker 2: Eighty one ready, but eighty two eighty two had really

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Speaker 2: started going really eighty one and it started maybe figured

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Speaker 2: its way in you know, freebasing. That's a Richard proce

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Speaker 2: say that's up on fire. So free pace eighth. The

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Speaker 2: base was already going on. Eh, the base was going on,

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Speaker 2: and we didn't fuck it the eather base. But when

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Speaker 2: the crack era came, they started rocking up.

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Speaker 3: They didn't know how to rock it up.

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Speaker 2: By the fact, nigga that was selling dope in nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 2: that be at work in the rock house in nineteen

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Speaker 2: he'd be at my age seventeen years old, sixteen years old,

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Speaker 2: fifteen years old. Now they we didn't know how to

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Speaker 2: rock no dope. We had to learn it from the

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Speaker 2: older dudes. They get right in the kitchen and cook

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Speaker 2: that shit up and we sell it. That's all we

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Speaker 2: gonna do. Seller, We know nothing about that. And they

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Speaker 2: told us game bag and hustle don't make so you

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Speaker 2: want a hustle a game bag. So we decided to

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Speaker 2: take our khakis who saw and start going to the

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Speaker 2: mall to shop because we were shopping at Surpplus store

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Speaker 2: Bail sell state Wide green Leaf over there ongether. You know,

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Speaker 2: we could dressed up the khakis, the T shirts, pimps

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Speaker 2: and all start coco sacks dirt, but we was mocking

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Speaker 2: the real crips. We were the only hustles like Whitey

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Speaker 2: were navy goaling. All them dude, they was hustles in

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Speaker 2: our community. They the ones who led us to say,

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Speaker 2: when the cocaine come, they had to use us, fred

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Speaker 2: Rick and all them dudes, they had to utilize us

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Speaker 2: and or they wouldn't be able to sell them because

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Speaker 2: we weren't playing.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna rock it.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I wanted to ask you about Freeway Rick,

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Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people get the misconception

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Speaker 1: that he was just out here moving those massive quantities

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Speaker 1: of drugs by hisself. He had cruis of people doing

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Speaker 1: that with him, didn't he.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got to have a community, got to

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Speaker 2: be from some community. You don't got the game, bang,

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Speaker 2: but you got to have a community behind you. Gotta

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Speaker 2: have streets behind you. However you twisted and put it

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Speaker 2: back then you didn't have the streets behind you.

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Speaker 3: You. It's not doue.

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Speaker 2: I don't care who you was. Because my big Homeie

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Speaker 2: had to come to us and say, hey, man, listen,

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Speaker 2: gang bang and hustle don't mix. Man, y'all, I understand

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Speaker 2: what y'all got going on. But I got to stop, man,

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Speaker 2: we could get some money. Do the word wom you know,

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Speaker 2: And that's what made us go. It wasn't no peace

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Speaker 2: treaty in eighty We went peace treating. When we got

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Speaker 2: to hustle, we just hustled and we turned.

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Speaker 3: In the cruise.

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Speaker 2: I turned the whites in the pride. You had Third World,

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Speaker 2: you had fifty mentioned, you had the hoovers. Before they

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Speaker 2: started they turned into the connect afraid. We had a

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Speaker 2: freeway boys. But all that, everybody wasn't just gang members.

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Speaker 2: It was gang members missed with hustlers and Germany thieves

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Speaker 2: and every every walk of life, you know, they all

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Speaker 2: all came together. We all came together and started usilining

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Speaker 2: each other for this one trade, which is cocaine German,

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Speaker 2: not hair on. Not all of them, not we all

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Speaker 2: of m men. Come on, no, it's eighty two. You're

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Speaker 2: talking about eighty one. Eighty two. That was a kid

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Speaker 2: my year. They can't they can't tell me nothing.

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Speaker 1: I went to jail eighty four because it was a

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Speaker 1: it was a time when the Craig trade started out

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Speaker 1: here in LA that everybody was kind of moving with

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Speaker 1: impunity because didn't nobody know what it was like as

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Speaker 1: far as law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Eighty one eighty two, they did not know shit. They

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Speaker 2: didn't know shit until about eighty three. They really grabbed

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Speaker 2: on the eighty three they knew when they didn't want

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Speaker 2: to stop it.

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Speaker 3: It were too It was too rough. It was too rough,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Once they started realizing that we was going to the

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Speaker 2: malls and you're talking about niggas putting up the low

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Speaker 2: riders and jewelry on.

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Speaker 3: And changing the episode. You got camped and Watts South Central.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're looking at our big homeies, Whitey Wayne Day,

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Speaker 2: Hunch from Grave Street, you know the name a guy

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Speaker 2: with them, man power with them, murray them, you know,

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Speaker 2: East Coasts and freud Rick over there with the hoovers,

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Speaker 2: got the hoovers with him, you know.

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Speaker 3: And even though we got the rule in the.

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Speaker 2: West Side, daft over to the West side thirties, you know,

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Speaker 2: two d Reach was the Godfather past eighty with the

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Speaker 3: See them dudes was our Daddy's friends. You know what

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Speaker 2: But so now you got hunting them was our big homies,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Gray Streets. You know, we the dudes

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Speaker 2: up unting and they pulled out the street. Cause remember

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Speaker 2: they come from the water, the airgrade. They didn't do

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Speaker 2: when they got cocaine. It was cocaine stumbled across us.

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Speaker 3: Already hustled, you know. Every year you got some top

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Speaker 3: of the drug. You have pills. For the sixties you

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Speaker 3: had andrew dust. The early seventies had sharon hit.

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Speaker 2: The late seventies, you know, in the early eighties had

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Speaker 2: sharms our choice seram and were skunk weed.

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Speaker 3: Then it was tied with you on the stick.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't all the exiety stuff, so we really didn't

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Speaker 2: care about that. We had yellow zig zat paper. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't no blunts.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Certain dudes had liquor stores and the hood, like Wallham's White,

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Speaker 2: he had liquor storees at a young age. We learned

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Speaker 3: It wasn't for him. We would live in We probably

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Speaker 3: still doing what we was doing.

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Speaker 2: Him and a few of us, you know, cause benzo

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Speaker 2: Al and all of them do it. They was stone

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Speaker 2: and they nois see all the dudes. My eldest under

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Speaker 2: White's in the right, not on the cripping, not on

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Speaker 2: the cripping on the straight, hustling. The White Enterpartment was

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Speaker 2: created under a hustle out of a game. We was

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Speaker 2: already a game. He said, no game banging. That's how

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Speaker 2: so we started hustling. We took our ca and start

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Speaker 2: wearing feet of bj Serrial, Tanisi Elise, going to Marshalls

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Speaker 2: over there, going to the different clubs on Hollywood, the

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Speaker 2: Hollywood played in the students.

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Speaker 3: Just that just really start cracking.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You go sneak u through

437
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Speaker 2: the red onion and trying to hang with the older

438
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 2: folks them. But like I said, we were sweatsuits and

439
00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,120
Speaker 2: stuff back then. We took our cackles off. And that's

440
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,720
Speaker 2: how you knew we was hustling because we start wearing jewelry.

441
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,960
Speaker 2: We didn't want to start wearing jewelryes and and and

442
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,199
Speaker 2: sweatsuits and getting the cars with the ReBs on them.

443
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 3: Older dudes didn't like that flashes. They was ready to

444
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,080
Speaker 3: get the money.

445
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,600
Speaker 1: Was all low riding.

446
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what that's what that was what to go to.

447
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 2: That's why you think all the low runner clubs started

448
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,800
Speaker 2: prospering baby gangs the turtle that see then my generation

449
00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:43,880
Speaker 2: they started buying.

450
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 3: We started buying low rolling with the money. We didn't

451
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,880
Speaker 3: buy houses. Is old.

452
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 1: You shout out to the honey baby games because he

453
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 1: can hear his name, said, yeah, you should have me

454
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,359
Speaker 1: on there with the homie.

455
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, Top, you're gonna say that. You know that,

456
00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,919
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you gotta realized we was low

457
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 2: riding with khaki suits. So we want to take our

458
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 2: cakes on where the gold chain?

459
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 1: Right?

460
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 2: These Swiss suits? You know, we go certain places. We

461
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 2: started doing family value, but we didn't buy no houses.

462
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,439
Speaker 2: We were living in the houses we grew up here.

463
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,439
Speaker 2: We live in our same neighborhood. We was looking at

464
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 2: like shit, we already got a house. Your grandpa in

465
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 2: the own house, your grand mom in the own house.

466
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,880
Speaker 2: You ended up gonna taking it over at our generation.

467
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 2: We just wanted supposed to take it over. And seventeen

468
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 2: years old. If you were seventeen years old in nineteen

469
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 2: eighty two, your house as you grew up in, you

470
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 2: were the next inheritance of that house. You gotta be

471
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 2: seventeen and eighty two, eighteen and eighty two, eighty three,

472
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,119
Speaker 2: you was gonna be the If you grew up in

473
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 2: the house you grew up in the generation. You were

474
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,719
Speaker 2: the next person. You inherit that house. And then all

475
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 2: the reasons you did inherit it because we went to

476
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 2: jail eighty four and started doing thirty years stretches, twenty

477
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,879
Speaker 2: year stretches, ten years stretches, eight stretched.

478
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,640
Speaker 3: Why stretches.

479
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 2: You know we're going to wai to the pen and

480
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 2: stuff like that that we don't creating all this friction.

481
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 2: The crips is really big in the pen. In the

482
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 2: early eighties, we start, you know, we start doing our things.

483
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,479
Speaker 2: So a lot of us that's in the street, they

484
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 2: started buying house. If you successful, then go to jail.

485
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: I went to the pen and came home.

486
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 3: I have a light to it.

487
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 2: You end up buying your house on moving out your

488
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 2: neighborhood to Lancaster, to a Cyrebury Dino Marino Valley and

489
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: all that stuff that's towards the late eighties. Eighty two,

490
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,439
Speaker 2: you was right there in the neighborhood doing your thing

491
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: because you have trap house in the neighborhood.

492
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 1: Now, when you got popped in up, you said you

493
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: went in eighty.

494
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: Four, right, I went to eighty four movies your charge.

495
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 3: How did they get you robbery and manslaughter.

496
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: Robbery and manslaughter.

497
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 2: So you see wyem in six years and nine months,

498
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 2: I kicked out, went to the pan oh so.

499
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: You went straight from YE to the penitentiary.

500
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, I got kicked out of WII, went to

501
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 2: Straighten the penitentiary, left forty eight hundred. In June, I

502
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 2: left forty hundred and eighty five. I went to June

503
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 2: eighty four and left eighty five, went to Waii and

504
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: then got kicked out of Wii in eighty six. I

505
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,479
Speaker 2: had to come up to eighty nine mm.

506
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: And then when you went to the penitentiry, what did

507
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: you go?

508
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 3: I went to CNC West.

509
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: I went to Corkoro and opened up Corkorom with the Hatchippe.

510
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 2: You know, I leveled three, Level one, Level two. I programmed.

511
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: I programed my whole. When they kicked me out of WII,

512
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: I to the program because it wasn't it wasn't about

513
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: you know, me, me and Yi. You know, I spoke

514
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 2: Swaheiti fluently. I learned from a lot of dudes like

515
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 2: Monster Cody. You know, they was my age, that's my generation.

516
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 2: Mansa Cody. You know, we we you know, he taught

517
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 2: me to why I had my homie bugs him alone.

518
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: You know, all them dudes was my.

519
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: Age Rainbow, you know, different brothers.

520
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 2: You know, I never never joined Blue Notes or SEE

521
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: or CEO, but they was my homies. You know, there

522
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 2: was fellow Crip members from my past, so I still

523
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: hold my relationship with them.

524
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 3: Dude, no matter what they decided to go do, they

525
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 3: were still crypts to me. So I still help my

526
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: relationship with them.

527
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: But me being a YA and being an influencer in YA,

528
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 2: they was trying to get me to influence brothers to come.

529
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 3: Together in YA.

530
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: And I got kicked out of White Together that I

531
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: kicked back of this out too smart and too intelligent

532
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: for their program. So they kicked me out, send me

533
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: to the prison. I spent my last three years in

534
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: prison and in nine months and I programmed got Corkoring

535
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: with Level three was the biggest yard I physically been

536
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: on when they opened that up in nineteen, I mean

537
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 2: the open corking up like nineteen eighty eight, eighty eight

538
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 2: eighty seven or something.

539
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: So I want to go back to something because you

540
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: mentioned the Black Panthers earlier, and then you mentioned, you know,

541
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: we had to talk about the peace treating things that nature.

542
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: Do you think that there were certain people that certain

543
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: forces that played, certain entities that played to tried to

544
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: disrupt some of that piece in different things.

545
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 3: That nature you talking about back then all with us too, yeah,

546
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: both yeah, both yeah.

547
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: Period period of course, they entercod whatever to they called

548
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: it jaguber and the ac pod pillow unit. They did

549
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: that in the in the in the in the in

550
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: the sixties, and that around all the ways into the seventies.

551
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: And then when they hit us in the eighties, they

552
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: used the local LAPD called crash.

553
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: Against street holders. Really res was against Treehill them. They

554
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: was visious on us. They would beat us. They would

555
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: put us on the high hoods.

556
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 2: They would put you down the bumper and mickey, you

557
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: look at the headlights of a car and put the

558
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: high things on your vision up. You know, a lot

559
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 2: of us mensally fucked up from that beat us. Put

560
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: the drugs on them, drop us off and drop us

561
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: off in gangoods. I physically dropped off. We had to

562
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: run back home. I physically watched them drop off enemies

563
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: of us, and we whoop on them.

564
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: You know. They put them back of the car and

565
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 3: taking the jail you know, it ain't no prolem with that.

566
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: They we know what they're doing. They told were the

567
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: biggest gang in La y'all ain't the biggest game. Were

568
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: the biggest game.

569
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: Because that because I've heard I've heard things from some

570
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: of the older feelings like about trains on the train

571
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: tracks being opened, a bunch of machine guns and stuff

572
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: like that. Stuff for that nature.

573
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: Did you run all that? See, my neighborhood wasn't on

574
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 3: the train track but on Slawson, so Slosson. It was

575
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: moving in the busy street.

576
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: When they ran down an Alameter trains with the Alameda,

577
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: then people knew what they was having guns on them trains.

578
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: Because you got to realize when the Blacks came to

579
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: the to the front of the South in the late

580
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: fifty early fifties and the forties whatever, when they came

581
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: to California, the projects were built and watched the niggas

582
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: and guards to PJ the Jordan down.

583
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: You gotta run out.

584
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: Then the only projects that run through the South Central

585
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: on the east side is to watch and where I'm

586
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: at the Peblos and coming to downtown. So all the

587
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 2: Blacks couldn't get off downtown. They had to get off

588
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: in the project. They did them up to training the project.

589
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: Because the projects is the mill for military military veterans

590
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 2: is coming home.

591
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 3: They would put them in the project.

592
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: So they had the train sits that run downtown from

593
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: Long Beach Port all the way through downtown LA to

594
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: Alameda down. So they was having weapons coming back and

595
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 2: forth through that transformation, you know what I'm saying. How

596
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: whatever they was doing it. And when they get by

597
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: the project, they would drop them guns off there because

598
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: they knew that if they put their blacks against each

599
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: other they had to use that would in this theory

600
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: with guns. So they would drop the guns off and

601
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: sit them there on the trains and people will get them.

602
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 3: What you think and not. It wasn't just gun the TVs, armor,

603
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 3: you know.

604
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: Bulletpoop, vessels. It was you know, it was all type

605
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: of stuff. It was just a matter of getting you

606
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 2: to be a thief and getting you to They had

607
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: to prank some to separate us.

608
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

609
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: You know.

610
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 3: So, yeah, of course the train it was a motherfucker

611
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 3: on Alameter.

612
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: That's why you think the projects were so heavy, So Lord,

613
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: because they was next to the projects. So you came.

614
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: So you came home in nineteen eighty nine, right Christmas Eve?

615
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: You came home in nineteen eighty nine. What happened? Man?

616
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: When I when I came home in eighty nine, it

617
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: was a whole new era. You didn't realized I come

618
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: on Christmas Eve two years before the riots.

619
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 3: So it was a whole era.

620
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: You know, everybody had their own ways. There wasn't no

621
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: khaki suits wearing no more. It was people still selling drugs.

622
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: But it was all fucked up, you know what I mean.

623
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't no organization no more. It wasn't no high

624
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: end money being made. Really, the people was settling in,

625
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: had money, They was buying their home, moving out of

626
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: the neighborhoods. And the people that didn't have no money

627
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: was see the neighborhood trying to trap and the police

628
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: was trapping there, so gaffle them up, gasfle them up.

629
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: And then you know, come ninety two and even you

630
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: know before ninety though, let's say ninety eighty, I come

631
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 2: up ninety ninety one one.

632
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: It was just a matter of you ride.

633
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: Around trying to get your money, survive in the streets,

634
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: and it was heavy back game, backing again because like

635
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: you said, we didn't have the organized we didn't have

636
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: the structure or consequences. So a lot of people that

637
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: came home, a lot of people that never really been

638
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: to jail until their first married go run. Now you're

639
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: in a fifth or sixth generation. Now a fourth fifth generation,

640
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: you know, the really sixth generation who really don't care.

641
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: About it, don't have no penitential experience. They've been to

642
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: forty eight hundred.

643
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: They glamorized the game baking, and so you know, every

644
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: ten years and five years, another situation coming about. So

645
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: what we started in eighty to eighty four went away

646
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: in eighty four. We started going to jail eighty five.

647
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: So then you have another generation in eighty six that

648
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: was under me. They started making their money eighty seven,

649
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: eighty eight, eighty nine with some brothers. That's my age.

650
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: They was the big boss. Is now my brother and

651
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: my little brother rest in the piece.

652
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: They was a boss. They was riding around a silver

653
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: Ronald trucks on dates. They had all the old school car.

654
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: They was buying the bun they buying the car washes

655
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: on Manchester the hood buy business to buying houses in

656
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: the hood, buying house on the outskirts of Marino Valley

657
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: and Lancaster. They was buying the houses and when their

658
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: parents moved and these dudes had money, youngsters. So we

659
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: would come home with too money. When we come home

660
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: with going by family bags. We're not in the hood

661
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: every day. Those that was in the hood. We was

662
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: trying to open up rock houses. Again, it wasn't working.

663
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: It worked, it worked because you know to this day

664
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: it's still working with some people. But it wasn't highly

665
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: profiled like it was in the early eighties when I

666
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: came home man So when the rocks, So when the

667
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: rod took place of ninety two, I mean, like I said,

668
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: I was, I had a car wash with the homies

669
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: that were doing our car wash on Manchester. Were bought

670
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: a nice house one hundred and fift of Western. You know,

671
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: I had a brand new Camaro ninety five Irock Lorenzo.

672
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: We was ride Rovald Lorenzo and the naughty sterning wheel.

673
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: You know, we're going to the club and stuff like that.

674
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: We was, we were dressed up and stuff, you know.

675
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: Looking sweet man. We were stopped. We were swat. We

676
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: go to the malls, you know, we go to.

677
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: Slass of swap meeting, you know, but that that generation

678
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: that came in and in the nineties, in ninety two

679
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: before the little bit of the generation that was left

680
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: before until ninety two, that was the last of the

681
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Mohiggans of that generation, and they started to little little

682
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: drug wars basically what drug wars. Gay Bang was still

683
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: up and all high, but when Ross Rod happened, it

684
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: was all game. Everybody supported the peace treaty except maybe

685
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: two or three games.

686
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: But they had their reasons.

687
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: Why I can't knock everybody because everything, you know, the

688
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: devil still got this part to play it. Everybody didn't

689
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: believe it. Even some brothers just joined from every hood

690
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: that made peace. There was still at least twenty percent

691
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: of the people that didn't believe in peace. But they

692
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: didn't do nothing to disturb it. They said, they stayed

693
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: their distance.

694
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: That's natural, Bo, that's natural.

695
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: It's still nothing. You can't knock somebody.

696
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: It's not if somebody did something to your brother or

697
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: your closeness friend, it's hard to swallow that pill.

698
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: Without a doubt and brace that dude, you know, to

699
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: this day.

700
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: So if you if you were at peace with yourself

701
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: and you made peace of God and you passed it

702
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: up and you embraced the dude that once your enemy shot,

703
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 2: you killed somebody. You know, Clo, you're breaking down, then

704
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: you're a forgiven person. You don't walk the yard, you know.

705
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You just scale the tree.

706
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: Now it's you know you got that about not everybody

707
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: and not like that. Mm.

708
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: So you know when you start talking about eighty nine,

709
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: the gang bang was at full force. I came in

710
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: California nineteen eighty eight. I came in California nineteen eighty eight.

711
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: What do you think the main difference between back gang

712
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 1: banging back then versus now? Because it seemed like now

713
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stuff going on. Man, it's crazy

714
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: right now.

715
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: You know.

716
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: Well now now you got to yes, we got kids,

717
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: well we always kids when we started fifteen, fourteen years old,

718
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: thirteen you know we was off thirteen. There ain't no

719
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: different age. But what you have now compared to then,

720
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: we didn't have what they have now opportunities. We didn't

721
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: have the social media where they could go get good jobs.

722
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: And you seeing people living their life through the cameras.

723
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: You know, this wasn't happened, This wasn't no YouTube, This

724
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: wasn't happening with us. So they got these opportunities. Now,

725
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: so now anybody can jo. You gotta look at kip

726
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: off and clip walking. You wasn't no, it wasn't no, no,

727
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: no playing with the klip walking.

728
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: If you klip walk, you got bag.

729
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: You don't clip klip park was in the household dance.

730
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: I see these kids do this yere Man's people lost

731
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: their lives shuffling their feet. There's people, there's people got

732
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: beat down shuffling their feet. There's people's size, and it's

733
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: not a game. It was it was either let's say,

734
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: killed or be killed.

735
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: So serious business. So so anybody just didn't crypt walk

736
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: the crip walk dance. So you can really get hurt walking, man,

737
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 1: you get really hurt clip walk. You would get hurt

738
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: wearing certain ship like he do right here right now. Man,

739
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: you you know I came back.

740
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: The crips would even drink fruit punch and the blood

741
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't even drink the blue. It wasn't no blue drinks. Nobody,

742
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: are you serious? Swear to god, we didn't drink fruit punch.

743
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: We didn't wear red, they didn't wear blue. If they

744
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: had a blue wine is right there they didn't drink it.

745
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: They didn't have it there, so they just they didn't

746
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: wear blue and we didn't drink fruit punch.

747
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: That's how serious it was.

748
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: Anything goes now they I don't think nobody tripping.

749
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: No, you can wear a boot red skinny jeans if

750
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: you want skinny jeans back there on top of the game, Briver,

751
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: you got ran up in straight out. You're sagoony. You

752
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: aren't using words now no more.

753
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I mean everything is open game.

754
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: It's fair game. It's I mean, it's you know, it's

755
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: the truth. It don't make no sense. It don't look

756
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: good for anybody to join the game.

757
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: I've seen the dude get jumped in the other day

758
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: on the house Sianas on YouTube, thirty four years old.

759
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: And I've seen the brother tell you, man, you're too old.

760
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: You gotta be fourteen, fifteen to thirty four.

761
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: You need to be going to do just life job.

762
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: A thirty four year old dude jumped in.

763
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wanted to get jumped You want to get this.

764
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: It's fun with you, man, you know that. See that's

765
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: the fad now because they think it's the coolest thing

766
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: to do.

767
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Because the only opportunity outside of squares, outside of work,

768
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: outside of hard playing on try against some real money game.

769
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: Banging is is like an addiction to an irresponsible person.

770
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: It's like a nigga you trying to gain back. Now

771
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: you might will going to count and get on g

772
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: R because you ain't working. You ain't got no life

773
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: because you showed this life.

774
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: Do you think you know? You talk about the social

775
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: media era, and that's what we're in right now. And

776
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: I think people they start listening to some of these

777
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: numbers that are overly inflated. I've been in the business

778
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: pretty much since it started, and some of the money

779
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: that they talk about is just not real. You feel

780
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I think people hear about them

781
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: numbers and they decide that they want to come in. Now.

782
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: These some people are making some money, but it's not

783
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: like they say it is right. It's a lot more

784
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: to it than that. Do you think, man, do you

785
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: think all the stuff going on today it's destructive? Like

786
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: because I see older guys on YouTube acting the food

787
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: now very destructive.

788
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: Very destructive, very irresponsible, very unprofessional, very very very lack

789
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: of discipline.

790
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: Knowledge of really what goes on as a grown man.

791
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: I'm a sixty year old man.

792
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: I'll be damn if I get on on these platforms

793
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: and sit there and talk about the shit happen these

794
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: you talk about and having the shit they talk about.

795
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: They know they're not ridly about.

796
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: But because there are no consequences no more, because the

797
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: law chain that people have moved onto their lives, they

798
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: don't have the time to participate or activated to these

799
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: actions unless it hit home, unless it hit the depth

800
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: and somebody died that.

801
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: They really know, Oh you gotta stop it now.

802
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: You know you're push it. You know it's too much

803
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: open game right now. This this this they misconscrewaged stuf.

804
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: They take stuff to a wrong level, like I see

805
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: everything on this Like you said, the money with Wily

806
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: and Getty, Oh man, they got a hundred million. Look

807
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: at such and stuff they got so minion. See when

808
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 2: they hear that everybody want to start a podcast. Now

809
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: you look at numbers, that's like twenty six thirty hounds views,

810
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: they're looking at thirty six thousd views.

811
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: You're not getting no money because you got thirty six

812
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: thousand views.

813
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: And if you're just getting some money, it's like gr

814
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: money so you're really looking for clouding attention and this this,

815
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: this social media is giving some people attention when they

816
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: really should be youse for knowledge and generational wealth right now.

817
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: It should be giving people to open the platform. It's

818
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: a platform, you call the platform. It's a platform that

819
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: we should be utilizing this for the betterment of ourself,

820
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: not for the worst of myself. And most seventy five

821
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: percent of dudes on here it's using it for the

822
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: worst reason, and that's cloud chasing, trying to take credit.

823
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: Social currency, social currency, social currency.

824
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: That's all. That's all.

825
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: Can I ask you this? Can I ask you? Because

826
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: you certified, you solidified in what you've done, and you

827
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: know everybody knows you and love you. You well respected.

828
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: We're percentage of the people of the old guys that

829
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: you see on the internet acting like they was the

830
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: man back in the day. We're percentage of the people lying.

831
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: It's seventy five seventy five percent of them.

832
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: Seventy five percent I'm lying, seventy five when I'm lying,

833
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: and when I say lying, I'm not saying they saw

834
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: seventy five.

835
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: Fifty percent of y'all wasn't even a right now, was

836
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: at work.

837
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: Look, you was at work, you was at college, you

838
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: was in school, you were looking out the window.

839
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: You ain't been in jail.

840
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: You ain't walked the four yard you was wasn't a

841
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: forty eight hundred. You weren't in thirty three hundred. You

842
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: weren't in jail in nineteen eighty three, eighty four, eighty five.

843
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: My generation, you wasn't a camping nineteen eighty at Campin's Dollars,

844
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: the June, all ealthy East Lake and all in the

845
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine, seventy eight with my big homie, seventy

846
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: seven seventy six, you was the squares.

847
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: And now y'all want to come home, and that come out.

848
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: Now you come home, you want to come outside or

849
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: come from.

850
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: Your suburban area wherever you live in the woodworks and

851
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: come out here like you the heart head, because the

852
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: dudes that would check you are pented or in the

853
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: country doing life, and they change either Muslims now they're old.

854
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: Now they got the lot. They're trying to come home,

855
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But at the old them,

856
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: you couldn't stand the right ladies. So don't even try

857
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: to act like you was, because a lot of these

858
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: dudes is filling spaces that's empty, like a parking space

859
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: that's empty, like a card that's been sent for years.

860
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: You know how you sitting at car and act like

861
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: you low ryding but the car got no edgidenty. But

862
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: you you know, like you're playing house, playing streets, bro,

863
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: they're playing streets. They're not playing house, they're not playing

864
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: high and go get it. They're playing streets out here,

865
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: and they're playing on the devil's playground. And one thing

866
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: about the devil, you don't play you know when they're

867
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: devil played games with you.

868
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to go because I know we

869
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: got so much going on, We got so much cracking, man,

870
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: and you don't did so much right? So how did

871
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 1: you wind up hooking up with mystical of all people?

872
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: Because we go go into all celebrities and knowing left,

873
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: How did you wind up with the dude from south

874
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: central Los Angeles look up with mixed mistic How did

875
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: you look good with him?

876
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 2: And it's funny part about it, man, it's a trip

877
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: because I was selling weed that did right, and that's

878
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: when we got car pretendo.

879
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: It was car pretendo. This is like nineteen ninety six,

880
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: ninety five, ninety six. So Miscal was coming to La

881
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: and a friend of mine, cousin, my big called your mind.

882
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: He ain't game bag. His cousin is from the Orders.

883
00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: No mescal real good.

884
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: So they want to buy some weeds smoke, you know,

885
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: in the La hotel by the airport. You know, with

886
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: master P, they can't leave. So I took him some

887
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: weed up there to smoke. And you know it's mystical,

888
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: you know, but he's already hanging with some boys on

889
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: the East Side and they chuck and I knew from

890
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: records in Little Eve Folkoos, you know, so they already

891
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: had it, you know, like I said, we got hustled.

892
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: He was been doing everything. So I met him through that.

893
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: And when I met him, you know, this is this

894
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: last little leg with master P. So me and they

895
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: got close to the weeds. So I went to New

896
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: Orleans with him, kicked him with him ship you know,

897
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: I'm out there chilling, kicked him with him. So when

898
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: he decided in ninety six, Job cut him into some

899
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: mystical from Job records from No Limit. That's when the

900
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 2: movie shaky, That's when it's ang shaky fast and danger

901
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: came out.

902
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: So he said, man, Bone, let's create our own label.

903
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: Are you with me?

904
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, come on, I ain't no, I don't

905
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: do something shit. I'm a smart mother. I already knew

906
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: Ice tob have already been induced to snoop dog. I

907
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: already knew should sugar induced me to snoop? In ninety two,

908
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: you got realized the ninety two I was the one

909
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: that had n c eating him. Come to South Park

910
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: dub c ice Cues sponsors, all of them came to

911
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: South parking supporters on the peace treaty for real, and

912
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: they supporting. We did a show called the Uni Festival.

913
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: We played football one day. The next day we had

914
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: the concert and we asked him to come. Jada pick

915
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: It came the football player.

916
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: All the people came.

917
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: And that's when we start non profiting ourself. Like turned

918
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: like the black panther. Something came out of it. So

919
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: when I when I've been mystical, I was already in

920
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 2: the streets. So when he left Jove and went shaking

921
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: fanst and blew up, I was with him every step

922
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: of the way. And then I ended up being his

923
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: role manager and run the label with him. Big Truck Records,

924
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: which I have right here chapter on my own Big

925
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: Truck Records. And what you see on him chain that

926
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm the only one with that tattoo. I'm the only

927
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: one with that tattoo. And and you know, so s

928
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: I hooked the.

929
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: Old when he went when he went.

930
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: To jail, uh the first time, I was his role manager.

931
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: I was his best friend. That's my best friend. Still

932
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: hold one talking about I watched.

933
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 3: You play.

934
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: We keep losing your sound a little bit.

935
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody trying to call in. So me and him

936
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: became best friends. You know, we became best friends, uh.

937
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: During that time.

938
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: So I'm talking about with Nivia shaking fat, the transfer,

939
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: the whole album even to this date, you know what

940
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean. I travel the world and and then when

941
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: he went to jail, I went to road with p

942
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: D Pablo. Then I hud pd Poblo because he wanted

943
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: to work with Sugar Knights or Hookedy mo shub Night.

944
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: You know that that episode went wrong. And then I

945
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: went with a dude named Ooh Week. And that's how

946
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: me and Snoop got close, you know, cause I got

947
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: Ooh Week, which is UH out of Atlanta at the time.

948
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: Two thousand and five, I got a song clear why

949
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: cry your Eyes? I got shot and not to clear

950
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: that song, and we did a song with Snoop and

951
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: then we didn't how the West One tour with Snoop

952
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: in the game and just come out of the documentary.

953
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: So I was a role manager, tour manager. I was already,

954
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: you know everything with Jive Records.

955
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: I've met Rcady that I'm in the back street, but

956
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: the whole ninety six to two thousand and six music industry,

957
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: I was there, I met, I was there on the

958
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: road with everybody.

959
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: I did sol Trate the world with Meschigal, you know.

960
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: So and I hooked up with Snoop when he signed

961
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: the massive pim Me and him got close. You know.

962
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: I go to this house in mescal from LA and

963
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, we got close. So you know, I've been around.

964
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: I took my way from the streets. After the peatriots

965
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: start a nonprofit to the music industry, and I left

966
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: a nonprofit alone, just helped support it because it wasn't

967
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 2: no money.

968
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: They weren't giveing us some money.

969
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: Maxine Water was the only one that's given us money

970
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: to open up the Center eighty seven of Vermont.

971
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: Now I got to ask about it. When did you start?

972
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: When did y'all start working with amer I can and

973
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: all that.

974
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta realize, American I CAN program was up

975
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: with my boy with the big homye Rockhead from sant

976
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: Tyna Block Rockhead, high Time, Grave Street played Maison grave Street,

977
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: killed Sugar grave Stry, a lot of Grave Streets of Compton, dudes,

978
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: west A. They was with American I CAN program. At first,

979
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: you gotta run out. They was up shit since like

980
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: nine eighty nine, ninety ninety one. They was already for

981
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: the rise. America I CAN was a Community Use Gang

982
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: service was the only program that was geared.

983
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: Towards gang intervention and helping brothers get out of gang.

984
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: But Jim Brown was more year these brothers how to

985
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: start your own businesses and stuff and everything. And Rockhead

986
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: happened to be like the main one into that recruiting

987
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: people into that program. So when the Rocks, when the

988
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: riots happened ninety two, that program already existed and.

989
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: They helped us start our programs.

990
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 2: We just went to the We just went to Community

991
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: Use Gang Services on Western and Slason in our community

992
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: and went to them for help. And the rest of

993
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: us already that American I Can. Then Bogart started Hands

994
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: across Watts, you know what I'm saying. So it was

995
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: only like four programs in ninety two. Its American I Can,

996
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: so I Center using Community Service, which is my program,

997
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: and you had Hands across Watts. Them three programs started

998
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: out after that. Then you had Unity one two three,

999
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: such as such and such as That's like in ninety five,

1000
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 2: the companies.

1001
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: Ninety two, it was only three programs out of all

1002
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: the games.

1003
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: In LA, out of all the programs.

1004
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: You know, I wanted was a regular program, and all

1005
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: these programs wasn't out.

1006
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: And we started the program the non profit me Toy

1007
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: boke Art, We even and a few others, you know,

1008
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: the home. Everybody else is still doing their thing. They

1009
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: didn't build relationships with each other, but they weren't thinking

1010
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: about no program. We were thinking about the program for

1011
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: the kids and the better jobs and so and so

1012
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: we just took over a program that.

1013
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: Was already existed. What nobody going through.

1014
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so did some of them programs do a lot

1015
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: of good for the community. Most of them did.

1016
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, most of them Urban League. You know, we did

1017
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: change that say yes, which is big.

1018
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: You see when Big You came home years later, it

1019
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: started his program development options.

1020
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: They had a grant already up under Say Yes program.

1021
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: You know, they was already side that whatever they was

1022
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: getting a grant, and you know you got to be

1023
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: five years up under received city funded grant, so it

1024
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: kind of regulated. We did the same thing they gave

1025
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: us the grat. You know, he was getting graded out

1026
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: of five years. He did the same thing tenure. Damn

1027
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: the seven years later he got his grap money. So

1028
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: I know what that's here today. I know the parts

1029
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: about what they're talking about, but a lot of people

1030
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: don't know what they be saying. Because they did they

1031
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: will be saying that they're saying.

1032
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: Now, do you think that some of the little homies

1033
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: day I want to go back to the young guys

1034
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: today that started here game banging, you know, the guys

1035
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: with the tattoos on their face, and you know it

1036
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: just looked, you know, like a little social pasts, right,

1037
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: did you think that? Do you think that the older

1038
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: generation kind of let them dudes down because they don't

1039
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: have them type of programs no more. It's like these

1040
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: guys really out here with no guidance.

1041
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: Well, it's a fab now. I mean you gotta look

1042
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: at it. The skinny jeans would have never happened. Tattoos

1043
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 2: all that on your face wouldn't happen.

1044
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: That he was in praise. He was a damn foe.

1045
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: He was a straight, damn fold with it.

1046
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: When you look at my generation with tattoos on their face,

1047
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: we had tears drops. We had tattoos on my neck.

1048
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: I got tattooed on my neck, my hood on my neck,

1049
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: I got gave tattoos all of my arm face, But

1050
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: we had tears drops. You might have somebody with it

1051
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: cross right here the hood right here somewhere. Very few

1052
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: went across their forehead like that.

1053
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1054
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: Very few went on they cheek. You know, our neck

1055
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: was I living tearsdrops on each side.

1056
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: Or you have the name of the hood right here,

1057
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: small five and the two and stuff like that.

1058
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: But all the stuff they doing nowadays, that's just this

1059
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: cosmo fashion.

1060
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Look. Because I don't think them little dudes. I think

1061
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: one cat.

1062
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: Gucci, Gucci channel on their face, bro Money signed on

1063
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: their face, Gucci, Shanela money side on your face.

1064
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: You got it.

1065
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: You ain't got no money. These dudes got all these

1066
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 3: things on each side.

1067
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: Is wearing wearing bust downs overseas, Gucci, Channello and stuff

1068
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: they're getting off the West side. But over in China

1069
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: whatever they call us a chop shop. You know the copycat.

1070
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: Come on now, most of these dudes has got these

1071
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: tattoos on their face.

1072
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: It's showing that I'm crazy, not actually like crazy said,

1073
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: you're crazy, And.

1074
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: I don't think these little brothers think about that. One

1075
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: day they have to try to go get the job

1076
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: or they gonna have to, you know, get their stuff

1077
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: together one day because you grew up. Everybody grew up

1078
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: and you did, or you go down one.

1079
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: They're not they're not thinking like that because we didn't

1080
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: think like that. Did We just had pursuit certain things

1081
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: they pursue. They're not thinking like that right now. We

1082
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: didn't think that that at fifteen, sixteen, seven years old,

1083
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: like I said, I was living. I thought about it,

1084
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: thinking about I had enough money at sixteen years old

1085
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: to buy me three houses. I was making five thousand

1086
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: a day at sixteen years old, I didn't think about

1087
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: I didn't think about nothing.

1088
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: Buying no house or nothing.

1089
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: All thought of aut buying a car buying these feeling

1090
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: BJ clothes now khaki suits. When the homies come home

1091
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: from the from Ya and juvene the hallard, that's where

1092
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: were coming from, buying them for clothes, taking them to

1093
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: the surf Plus buying them khaki Stacey Adam cuorco sacks

1094
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: all Star. You know, if you be dressed up, we'll

1095
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: take you over to the mall and used to feed

1096
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: the bjs stancing at tennis shoes, silk shirts from downtown

1097
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: and you know the guest store in the Cooper Building.

1098
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: You know, if you dress it's a sharp You know,

1099
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 2: you want to get your term now because you're player,

1100
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: you're a hustling.

1101
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: You want to sell the g the D board, you know,

1102
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: but we're still gain back it. That's where the clicks

1103
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: came in.

1104
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Why is in the probably third world, you know, to

1105
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: connect who would connect all the stuff. Then you had

1106
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: the rich Rowland came out later in life, and you

1107
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: know every game had their own situation where they're hustling.

1108
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: Now it's not an organization. You know, nobody want an

1109
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: organization because they really don't want to do that no more.

1110
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: And the ones that's doing it that they accomplishing nothing

1111
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: out of it and making something up out of it.

1112
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: It's just losing it, just doing it to be doing

1113
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: it's a fast cloud chasing. You gotta realize cloud back

1114
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: in our generation was a good word.

1115
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: But they got cloud. That mean you had a lot

1116
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: of repute that you had, you have to respect. You

1117
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: got cloud.

1118
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: This word now cloud, they ain't changing to something else

1119
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: like now you know because of social media. You want

1120
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: to on social media at first you want to get

1121
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: a cloud and you with your integrity, with your bag,

1122
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: what you got going on in life nowadays the whole

1123
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: thing man so so so so this stuff is watered down.

1124
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 3: Ain't no water. It's as dry as the African Well.

1125
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so Cubone you talk about you was making

1126
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: five thousand a day years. Yeah, I want to go

1127
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: back to that time period when you was making that money.

1128
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: Did you envision the community, the black community getting tore

1129
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: up the way it did because the black community never

1130
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: cut in this nationwide. The black community never recovered from

1131
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: the cocaine, from the crack cocaine. It never recovered. And

1132
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: it's like we're being attacked again with the it's we

1133
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: stayed under the technic. It was the heroine. It was

1134
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: the heroine before it. Then it was the crack, then

1135
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: it was now it's the pills.

1136
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened was what happened one did.

1137
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: Now there you go, you're back, Okay, okay.

1138
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: What happened was the era back then. What happened was is.

1139
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: When it first came out eighty two eighty three, I

1140
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: started saying, when I went to jail eighty four eighty five,

1141
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: I started seeing the day down fall.

1142
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: Because you know, it took away.

1143
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: I tegured it because you know, people started losing their houses,

1144
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: They started losing them around.

1145
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: You know.

1146
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: That's when they word strawberries came up. We created the

1147
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: world strawberries, you know, giving a girl crack the strawberry.

1148
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: But when we.

1149
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: Started selling houses, wrinting cars and stuff, and I started

1150
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: seeing people just turn into like real old feed like addicts,

1151
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: like really losing the note washing they face. No more

1152
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: shoes is gone. These dudes want us older. I say

1153
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: that stuff eating us up. But us that didn't use

1154
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: it to that extent never looked at it like that

1155
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: because we was benefiting off of it, you know what

1156
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean. But when we realized that benefit was hurting

1157
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: our people, we.

1158
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: Was in Waii. We was in jail, count of jail

1159
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: doing stretches. You know what I'm saying. Twenty fifteen years

1160
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 3: at seventeen years old, coming on at twenty six thirty,

1161
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: twenty years old. By that time, it was gone.

1162
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: It sponsor became our community, ages in our community. Everybody

1163
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 2: we come on, we have no communitymore. All the people

1164
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: that lost their houses and stuff, and you know, grandparents died,

1165
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: the mamas and the aunties, they shrugged out on crack.

1166
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: Your cousin smoked out on crack. Uncle smoked out on crack.

1167
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: Everybody in that generation that's older than you that could

1168
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 2: hold on for your this is gone. Your in generation

1169
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: they gone on crack. My generation gone on cracking. Drug.

1170
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't a new drug out. Yeah, at that time,

1171
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: it was just a cocaine era. Came all the way

1172
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: up into the ice ERAa. When they tell me that

1173
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: ice came in, Ice took everything cocaine didn't.

1174
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: And that's the interrority.

1175
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: And the Blacks got scared of ice because you know,

1176
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: we didn't do let's deed and all that stuff back then.

1177
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: We did cocaine, angel dust, the sharan and heroin. It

1178
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: have of us didn't do heroin. We're scared the area.

1179
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: We're scared of angel so shearm and cocaine was hard

1180
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: to go to.

1181
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: That fucks you up.

1182
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: Well, you know what the sharam think the sharam trade is.

1183
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: That's the only drug that black people primarily dealing and

1184
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: that we didn't get took from us. Not saying it's

1185
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: a proud thing, but you know, the manufacturing of it,

1186
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: it's like a trade secret or something like.

1187
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: That, because we did it, because we manufactured it. We

1188
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: didn't we manufact we our elders made that ship. Happen

1189
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: here to cut up in the house.

1190
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: If you don't know what you're doing, get your house

1191
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: blow up, get your face tour off exactly.

1192
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: At the same time, it was so strong that you

1193
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: who you whoop ten niggas off of it. Mm hmm.

1194
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: You you if you want to, if you want to

1195
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: share it, you want to take somebody, go to a party,

1196
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: take a shriff, me and nigga to a party and

1197
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: give him a stick in the party and watch what

1198
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: he do.

1199
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: Shut it off for real. He set off for real.

1200
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna set it off for real. So that's how

1201
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: that went. So Cuebone. You run with a lot of

1202
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: celebrities out here. Right, you run with a lot of people.

1203
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: You have, you a man of influence and massive respect

1204
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: right right that way? Can l A? Can the stuff

1205
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: that's going on in l A get repaired?

1206
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: Now?

1207
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: It's l A beyond repair.

1208
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: No anything can be prepared and l A can be

1209
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: repaired prepared. It's just you got to wake up and

1210
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: get these people. That's the fool gaisis. You know, we

1211
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: gotta go back to our mentality and get these too.

1212
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: Your kid the truth. Let him know if that dude

1213
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: over there that he looking up to ain't worth shit,

1214
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: and the ain't gonna do shit but talk shit. And

1215
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: if you gotta pull out that, if you gotta do

1216
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: what you gotta do to show that, and do what

1217
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: you gotta do to show that if you care about

1218
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: these kids are your kids, you.

1219
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

1220
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes you know, we gotta ask whoopers, so sometimes they

1221
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: can ask. The only reason you don't get adsle by

1222
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: now because it's gun playnigga ask you come back to

1223
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: shoot you.

1224
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: Well, they was gonna do that back then to us.

1225
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: So if you're gonna bring it back, bring it back,

1226
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But when you look at.

1227
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: La compared to other states. We'll live a nigga to

1228
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: carry guns. So the lesson the guns that can be brandished,

1229
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: the lesson, you know, the threat of what you're up against.

1230
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: You know, you're up against somebody coming back. But now

1231
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: you go to Texas, Arizona, Tennessee and all the other

1232
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: take you dudes walking around with a RS and stuff.

1233
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, there the vidy has happened. When it happened,

1234
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: it happened quick. It don't happen every day like that.

1235
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: They flash me up there. They pop each other every day,

1236
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: you know, but we when we pop off, we pop

1237
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: off for real. Something really happens and and it's it's

1238
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: a repercussion. But nowadays there's not no repercussions like that

1239
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: because it's out of towns that's doing the ship that

1240
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: we're So it's not really us that can't be changed.

1241
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: We could change, but we got to stop the outside

1242
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: people with no influence but negative influence come into our

1243
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: city and tell us what we should and should not

1244
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: be doing and pushing the envelope, pushing the envelope on

1245
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: us to go do something, do this.

1246
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: You know, you look at a lot of these dudes

1247
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: out here nowadays they being misled.

1248
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I gotta go back to something. Man

1249
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: you was talking about the Oh she's very white and

1250
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: the businessman was very white.

1251
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 3: With the business man with the business. Let me do

1252
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: you something. He had a d voice.

1253
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm there, you know, you know when they got when

1254
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: a business man, he's a big old dude. You know,

1255
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: I got to pished him with the big back there

1256
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: in the business. Miss a part. You gotta realize he's

1257
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: a cook age and get my mother in trouble. Baseball

1258
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: team was called the micro Players that we played on

1259
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: White and all of us watching Barry White grow up,

1260
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 2: all the Chilie Davis and all them, all these baseball

1261
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: we had baseball and so far so Barry had a

1262
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: baseball team called the micro Player for my generation and

1263
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: we played on this team. We should go to this

1264
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 2: house in Baldwin Hills and out there with the lady

1265
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: gun dogs. Like I said, him and my mama and

1266
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: Bubble up all them was best friends as kids get here.

1267
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, he he was like when the business man

1268
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: used to get into it with people. Barry was a voice.

1269
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: He had a voice.

1270
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: He took us out, you know, we'll we gonna get out,

1271
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 3: throw out somewhere. That voice was intimidated.

1272
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So so let me ask you this. The

1273
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: Barry had hands, Yeah, he had hands.

1274
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: But buried and there. My dad used to tell me

1275
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: Barry didn't really get into fights like that. He had

1276
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: a voice, but Barry was the player like him. Bubble up,

1277
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: you know how you got ye me, I'm about to

1278
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: fire to my hood. I tell you I could fight,

1279
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: But I'm.

1280
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: The nigga knocking out nigga. I'm not a nigga that

1281
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 3: got reputation for knocking out shooting up like that.

1282
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: I got my reputation with being who I am, networking

1283
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: fellowship and bringing the hoods together and bringing brothers together.

1284
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,959
Speaker 3: Well, you gave banks fat, but I bought hood together.

1285
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: Like my neighborhood got close to six oaths back in

1286
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: the day. I did that.

1287
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. My neighborhood got. We wasn't

1288
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: socialized with a lot of neighborhoods. So when I was

1289
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 2: like a person you know, got on socialized, I found

1290
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: my niche and that was my niche. You know, I

1291
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: could do any and everything, but that was not my

1292
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 2: main core. Some people had their main core very white

1293
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: had a court like me.

1294
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: He was more of a socializing the network. You know,

1295
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: he want the contract. He spoke. I speak for my community.

1296
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: I could speak where he boded. Set it off.

1297
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna set it off. Sometimes your voice travel. Some

1298
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: people can't speak. Some people know how to speak. Me,

1299
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: I know how to speak. I was groomed well and

1300
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: raised well. My daddy was the biggest dude in my

1301
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: neighborhood and the business man. One of the biggest dudes

1302
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: in the business man in South Park was my dad.

1303
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: They called it Big Buddha. They had twenty into that.

1304
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: My dad had twentieth drawings in nineteen twenty years old,

1305
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: Big Swift knock Now. My daddy known to knockout five

1306
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: six people at a party.

1307
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 3: Known to me. What MASSI everybody?

1308
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: So you know I'm his son. So my leadership came

1309
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: from my daddy, my uncles, and my mama. You know

1310
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's how I got to be who

1311
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: I am. I follow my daddy. Mon but I'm not

1312
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: the fighter. I'll fight you, run up illa get off.

1313
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm not the one that's

1314
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: a threat threaten me.

1315
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you raised one of my one of my good

1316
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: one of my good homeboys always talk about you may

1317
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: say you raised them Jeeperico.

1318
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my little homie. That's my little homy from

1319
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: a neighborhood man. You know, and and and you know,

1320
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: I watch him come around and watch him come into existence.

1321
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: I watch him change. I kind of help him change,

1322
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: you know, seeing me pursue the music career, being a

1323
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: road manager, seeing me make peace in the programs, and

1324
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: the influence that I've.

1325
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: Done on my community till to this day.

1326
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

1327
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 3: I don't.

1328
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: There's not one person in my neighborhood that I treat favoritism.

1329
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: You're all the same, if you right, you right, you wrong,

1330
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: you wrong?

1331
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't. I don't have no war

1332
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 3: story to tell nobody.

1333
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: I'll have your food to sit there and tell some

1334
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: war story, because that all you're doing is it's just

1335
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 2: too many stories to be told, too much.

1336
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: Bodence talking about I don't need I don't need to

1337
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: talk about no body. I don't need to talk about

1338
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: what you can go to Oh who buzz and doing that? No,

1339
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: that's dude, Just like Johnson's on the king Ate Parade,

1340
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: the other day. They come on, man, when like I.

1341
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: Said on Instagram, when the police start putting that suppression

1342
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: and taking these hunsten doing throwing the doing them in

1343
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: jail for three strikes or getting them these these these

1344
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: rico acts and the fans and a criminal organization. The

1345
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: dudes can't stay and do five years. They're gonnaell, they're

1346
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: gonna get twenty thirty year. They're really gonna they're gonna

1347
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: bump theirself in jail. Only don't they don't. They don't

1348
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: have what we had back there. They don't have the opportunities,

1349
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: you know, to go to trade either, gonna work there.

1350
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: You got a little screen TV phone, they're gonna give you,

1351
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: you know, in there that stuff like that.

1352
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: They give you food and stuff and fuck that food.

1353
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 3: To fuck that food, nigga.

1354
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to sit there in the mother fucking jail,

1355
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: eat cantons and spread for the retiro life that we

1356
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: can make it spread out in the street just better

1357
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: than there.

1358
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: If you want.

1359
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing but freedom, man. You know this time when

1360
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: this time that went fast as hell. Man, I appreciate

1361
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: you coming on man shantling with you. Boy man, brother,

1362
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have to have you on. We

1363
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: go we go start because what we go start doing, man,

1364
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: is getting people that are just regulars on the show man,

1365
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, first half, because I'm gonna tell you, man,

1366
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't like doing man, dealing with artists and all

1367
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: that stuff and doing all that. Brother, these have people

1368
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna come on and talk some wisdom. You know,

1369
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: they've got something to say.

1370
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: That's man, you know, like you know, that's that's That's

1371
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: only podcasts I would do. I only did a couple

1372
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: of podcasts, and every podcast I do, I get on that.

1373
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: I talk positive. I talk like I talk right now.

1374
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: I did the same next podcast on the Spot at

1375
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: the Spot talk.

1376
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: The same, you know, because you because you up in

1377
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: the Bay now right.

1378
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the baby, but I'm back and forth

1379
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: in l A. I did this podcast. Yeah, I've been

1380
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: a bay for nine years. I've been living in the

1381
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: Bay Area for nine years. I come back and forth

1382
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: like home. I've been doing this all my life. But

1383
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: I lived in the Bay Area nine years. Yea, my

1384
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: wed I wear to sick with a chain. I want

1385
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: to sick with a change, that's right. Gave a friends.

1386
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: That's because I'm a big brother. You know this wise guy.

1387
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: Only the family, the members you know, and I'm the

1388
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: only la dude. I saw mugs to me with his

1389
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: family that has it. Everybody them mugs shout up to

1390
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: the domy mug.

1391
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: It's a good friend of mine. Yeah, man, good people.

1392
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: You know, good dude. You know what I mean.

1393
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: You know we're all older man, and we treasured this

1394
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: as as a hard stone topping family.

1395
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's a business.

1396
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm gonna tell you some man. I wear

1397
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: my age like a bag of finer man, because I said,

1398
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: we survived some stuff, man Like I had a young

1399
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: cat one day called me over and I said, man,

1400
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: you see that like hurting my feelings or something. That's

1401
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: where my strength comes from. You feel what I'm saying.

1402
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: You better.

1403
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm sixty. That's why I tell him I'm sixty years old.

1404
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1405
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: I can walk back there with you, but you can't

1406
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: walk too far with me before I get up at

1407
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: He'll see I could see sixty. You can't see thirty

1408
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: five because you're only thirty two. You only can see

1409
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: half a block up. You can see half a block off.

1410
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: You can see you can you could walk two steps up,

1411
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: you know, but you can't walk ten steps up because

1412
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: you're not made that age yet.

1413
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: If we don't have that age for that, wish your

1414
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: Instagram bone big.

1415
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: Q Bone fifty two and cook them with cue Bone Show.

1416
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: But y' y'all find me a big cubone. That's right.

1417
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: You don't got to talk about that. You snooze private

1418
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: shift too.

1419
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, sir Jacob, Jacob trains jacko Mini Trade, Jack

1420
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 2: of All Trade.

1421
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know, I don't know if Q Bone

1422
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: cooks better than me. Were gonna have to see one day.

1423
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 3: Man, Hey man, I can't cook bad. Nobody I cook greater.

1424
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, Hey, y'all, we're gonna talk. We're gonna tap

1425
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: in with y'all next week. Me and the homeboy in

1426
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: the wind we gone Hello.

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00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: Hello,