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Speaker 1: Philly man called out the mayor for being incompetent because

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Speaker 4: This is what happened, guys, residents of Upper Darby Township,

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Speaker 1: Michael said facts, David is the best and I will

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Speaker 2: None, zero.

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Speaker 5: Now one of stuff like that pissed Jerry off. For

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Speaker 1: Chance to get that. Yeah, and uh, I got one

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett had two years left on this deal. Miles

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Speaker 1: Because Miles Garrett got two years left, I got one.

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Speaker 2: How let your boy and hold on.

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Speaker 5: What if they get to the point where they pissed

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Speaker 2: Don't franchise tagers.

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Speaker 1: We're too late. They got that franchise tag on them.

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Speaker 1: But see Herr's my negotiating trip. Here's my negotiating trip

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Speaker 1: moving forward. Y'all want this negotiat y'all WoT this eighteam game?

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Speaker 1: No more franchise tags, more transition tags. That's a good man.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want a franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: Franchise tag goes away immediately, transition tag goes away immediately.

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Speaker 5: If there was something that you could put on the table,

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Speaker 2: Guaranteed contracts. I knew, I knew that, I knew that's

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Speaker 2: a good that's a good one. That's a good. Guarantee

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Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to get at least the first three years guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: But hey, I've seen them do it.

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Speaker 1: They guarantee, They've guaranteed entire contracts Kirk Cousins ever since

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Speaker 5: Now, look at the position you're talking about quarterbacks, about

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Speaker 5: So I think them guarantee him and them money they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and importance.

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Speaker 5: So it Now, what about other positions, office of lineman,

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Speaker 2: He's normally twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Dak Tod France is his agent?

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Speaker 2: Why did you not try to circumvent Todd France?

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Speaker 1: Why didn't know try to circummence I don't know who

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you try to circumvent them?

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Speaker 5: Because you know CD don't play that. You have to understand,

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Speaker 1: Who's one of the most voiceous and voiceous cowboy players

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Speaker 2: Dak. Don't play that. Yeah, CD, don't play that.

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Speaker 5: It's not in their character even play that game. I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, we already know how we how Dak.

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Speaker 1: Dak is always he has been posed in So that's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my job to the best of my ability,

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Speaker 1: but I am not going to pick business strictly business business.

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Speaker 2: And he's been a saying since.

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Speaker 1: Day yes, and I don't have I mean personally, I

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Speaker 2: Wanted to put Tony Romo back in there. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: But he was the only one that wanted that. Jason

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Speaker 1: Garrett didn't want that. Stephen Jones didn't want that. To

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Speaker 2: H interesting. Okay, now I'm good, I'm good. Look I know,

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Speaker 1: David Mugletter met him a couple of times, talked to him.

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Speaker 1: Good cat, smart cat brother. Uh has done a done

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Speaker 1: he got a lot of big time players, athlete first,

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Speaker 2: They do a great job. I like that. I like when.

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Speaker 1: Guys get people that they trust that they will leave

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Speaker 2: Ojoe. A lot of people just make about some color

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Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. And that's fine.

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Speaker 5: I ain't got to do with it when it comes

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Speaker 5: to this type of money, When it comes to this

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Speaker 5: corner you can trust because there are too many horror stories.

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Speaker 2: Of people getting burned. There too many horror stories.

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Speaker 5: The fact that nothing has changed with the percentage of

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Speaker 1: Two years remove from the game is ridiculous. It's almost

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that all comes down to the team and the

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Speaker 5: and once you're done planning, you got to have agents

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Speaker 5: for right reasons, not just why.

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Speaker 1: You're playing, not just because yeah, yeah, exactly, And you

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Speaker 1: got to have somebody that's going to be in your

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Speaker 2: I've had the same ilk you. I've had the same

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Speaker 1: I've got Marvin Dimoffen in ninety six and he's been

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Speaker 2: And I don't do anything. I run it by him.

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Speaker 1: Because he's gonna be she gonna shoot me straight because

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he won't was he

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Speaker 1: I know this man wants what's best for me. Uh Uh.

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Speaker 1: David Muguletter has Jordan Love, c J. Stroud, as we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: we got he got Jordan Ramp, Jordan Ramsey, Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: that fully guarantee two in thirty million. He also has

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. So he's done an unbelievable job protecting his

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Speaker 2: At one point in time.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson had the most guaranteed money for a long

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Speaker 2: He was the highest paid. Uh. Justin Fields just got

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Speaker 2: two years forty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Uh based on five starts with six starts last Yo,

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Speaker 1: Joe Jordan Love is.

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Speaker 2: Gonna get a I think George Love already got paid.

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Speaker 1: Stroud is about to get a boat road of money

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Speaker 1: after this year if he if he, if he could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he gonna get it.

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Speaker 1: He gonna get he gonna get a big He's gonna

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Speaker 2: HOLDO. T. Higgins with David mug A Letter too. What. No,

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Speaker 2: he's rocked. He would rock he and uh he and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just went because he was with David mug

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Speaker 1: Letter h and see David mu Letter, don't cut no deals.

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Speaker 2: Let do cut no deal.

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Speaker 1: And that's why in Cincinnati, say if you want to

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Speaker 1: because he works at the behest of you. Excuse me THEO.

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Speaker 1: He works at the behest of you. David mugle Letter, like, bro,

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Speaker 2: To do and see, this is what baseball players do.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna give you no deal, o Joe, because

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Speaker 1: That's why show hell Tany got seven hundred. Juan Soto says,

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Speaker 1: gotta I gotta keep bumping up on I gotta keep climbing.

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Speaker 1: Ain't no discounts. He wanted to stay in Cincinnati. He

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Speaker 1: David mug a Letter understands that I'm actually trying to

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Speaker 1: increase the market because I'm not Yes, I want to

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Speaker 1: do what's in the best interest of my client, but

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Speaker 1: I also want this market.

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Speaker 2: To keep rising. Right, So you think either print David

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Speaker 2: is probably suggesting that he leaves.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, absolutely, because he knows, he knows he would

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Speaker 2: Two to three years fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Right, because what about the other receivers, Because you got

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Speaker 1: hold on, you just saw.

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Speaker 2: T Higgins what he got.

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Speaker 1: He was free too, Yeah, and so they try to

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Speaker 1: they try to put you against each other because that's

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Speaker 1: what you left.

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Speaker 2: That's the chip.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who the next big time receiver coming out,

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Speaker 1: but I'm looking at it. I'm looking at Chase. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at what Chase got. I'm not looking I'm not

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Speaker 1: looking at what Oh well, you see what he did

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Speaker 1: I saw what Chase got, and I'm up and I

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Speaker 1: want to get it. It's probably gonna be Pooka. I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Pooka O Joe for the late

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Speaker 1: round pick. He's going into his third year. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: After this year, this early.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but listen, if the Rams are smart, they'll

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Speaker 2: He won't get as much as Chase though.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, though, Joe, he's going into his

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Speaker 2: He only got three years. I got three three or

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Speaker 5: Oh matter of fact, you know what the you know,

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Speaker 5: they might do to the middle of the season. If

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Speaker 5: he having one hell of a season and put the

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Speaker 2: In the middle of the season. No, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I don't do the middle season. I like to stay focused.

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Speaker 1: Yeah here, I know what you mean. You know, I

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Speaker 1: like to stay focused. And you're talking talking about money.

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Speaker 2: I mean you know what, They're gonna let you focus.

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Speaker 2: That's what they just talked to. Your agent. The agent

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Speaker 2: take care of all that.

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Speaker 5: But if you're balling out, which I'm assuming he's probably

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Speaker 5: that DeVante Adams will probably take away from him. But man,

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Speaker 5: they finisah go bananas, And I hope I hope they

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Speaker 5: Devonte Adams the right way. I hope they don't do

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Speaker 5: what they did to God damn Cooper Cup understanding how

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Speaker 5: they worked them out of the offense and putting Pool

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Speaker 1: Well, what happened was you remember the first year Pooker

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the second year he missed some time also.

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Speaker 1: So now they say, well, we got concerned about your

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Speaker 1: is availability availability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's what I tell.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, you've you've never been injured, but you saw

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Speaker 5: And one thing about it, think about the NFL in general,

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Speaker 5: people in the chat, think about the NFL in general,

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Speaker 5: and how great some of the players are or work

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Speaker 5: just in the history of the game in general, and

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Speaker 5: you always think about it. And everybody's replaceable. And sometimes

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Speaker 2: Imagine that always.

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Speaker 1: That'll mean they won't they won't try, That'll mean they

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Speaker 5: Hey man, there's always something else out there, always, And

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Speaker 5: This is when it comes to receivers. They might need

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Speaker 5: Taryll Owens. But there's always someone out there that would

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Speaker 2: Maybe not as much, but they get the job done.

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Speaker 1: Teams, Look, they're gonna tolerate behavior until they can replace behavior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, bro.

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Speaker 1: They traded Jared, they trade They cut Jerry Rice, They

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, Ruth Smith? Do I need? Do I

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Speaker 5: They all all the Greace uh, all of them. Very

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Speaker 5: few have been able to finish their career where they

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Speaker 5: do it. Larry Brady walk. They let Tom Brady walk. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's it. That's it, Hey, that's the prime example of it.

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Speaker 5: Nobody has been able to do it. Larry f and

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Speaker 5: Gerald was able to know hav an a illustrious career,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, it happen. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You see Dan Marino play at one place for sixteen, sixteen,

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Speaker 1: seventeen years. John played in one place for sixteen years.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't happen. That doesn't happen often. You see paid MANNTT.

444
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Speaker 1: They paid Manning.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Manny, I was just going to say, you took

446
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Speaker 5: it right, you took it right out of them out.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the greats. So that's what they that's

448
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Speaker 1: what they do. That's what they do. So Brian Sharpheimer

449
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Speaker 1: Ollie dropped some inside information about Kyler Murray today. He

450
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Speaker 1: said the farmer Cardinals offensive line coach and new Dallas

451
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Speaker 1: offensive seat OC Clay Dadams, told him Kyler Murray never

452
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Speaker 1: really wanted to run.

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Speaker 2: Ojo, what do you make of this? I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 5: I think for dual threat quarterbacks that as people that

456
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Speaker 5: are scouts or in positions of power, they will view

457
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Speaker 5: dual threat quarterbacks as running quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I know Kyler Murray short.

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Speaker 5: I know he's dynamic with his legs and extending plays

460
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Speaker 5: and doing things off script. But I want to be

461
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Speaker 5: known as a first throw quarterback. And how do you

462
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Speaker 5: do that by extending plays? By being able to go

463
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Speaker 5: through the process of reading from one, two, and three

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Speaker 5: or maybe four.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes and only running when you have to.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure maybe that's a conversation he had with him,

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Speaker 5: which is why he came out and said it. If

468
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Speaker 5: that's something Kyle is working on and wanted to be

469
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Speaker 5: a throw first quarterback, then so be it. Look what

470
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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson's been able to do. Look at Look look

471
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Speaker 5: how he is come and gotten so much better at

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Speaker 5: you know what, I'm going to be a throw at

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Speaker 5: the ball first, and I'm only going to run the

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Speaker 5: ball unless I have to. As opposed to looking at

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Speaker 5: my first reading, my first reading out there, I've taken

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Speaker 5: off more.

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Speaker 1: I think that for me, O Joe, what makes Kyler

478
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Speaker 1: Murrays carry is his legs. Don't know about to fear

479
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Speaker 1: Calier Murray Arne and just don't.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, I like that you said that.

481
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Speaker 5: But he can't throw the ball. His anticipatory skills are

482
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Speaker 5: very good. And then you got Marthinus and Harris Martinus

483
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Speaker 5: and Harrison Junior. You don't have to run the ball

484
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Speaker 5: no more. Yeah, he does, Ojo.

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Speaker 1: Because here's the thing is that he's an undersized quarterback

486
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Speaker 1: and what makes him dynamic and what makes him lethal

487
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Speaker 1: is his legs. So it's the same thing to RG

488
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Speaker 1: three ran into RG three like.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to run.

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Speaker 1: If Dad wouldn't have said I wanted to be paid Manning.

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Speaker 1: I want to be Tom Brady when he when he

492
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Speaker 1: was never that right? I mean, Oh, Joe, it's like

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Oh Joe, you vegan, hold on one,

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Speaker 1: Can you let me build up to it? Hell, I've

495
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Speaker 1: been eating me for twenty five years and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you tell me now, I gotta cut a chicken.

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Speaker 1: I gotta cut out fish, I gotta cut out seapool,

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Speaker 1: I gotta cut I gotta cut of all animal protein

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Speaker 1: and go straight strictly playing based. Can I get some

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Speaker 1: time to build up to that. I'm not saying that

501
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Speaker 1: eventually you can't build up to that, but I'm saying

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Speaker 1: to you this cold.

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Speaker 2: Turkey, damn No, it's a process. It's a process.

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen, everything you just named right there, everything you

505
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Speaker 1: just name, is that you have to exclude that from your.

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Speaker 2: Diet if you become vegan. Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm not trying to be funny, and no disrespect

508
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Speaker 1: to anybody that saying the chat that might be vegan

509
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Speaker 1: or that might see this slip, but that sounds.

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Speaker 2: Misia and you gotta stop beating. Uha too, that ain't it.

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Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing to me. I mean it, yeah,

512
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Speaker 1: depend on who it is. Yeah, no more booty hold either,

513
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Speaker 1: No more rump ropes. You've been eating rump ropes for

514
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Speaker 1: a long time. Done and done. That's done, dead d

515
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Speaker 1: o a dead on the rival.

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Speaker 5: H And that's funny. I don't I don't see how

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Speaker 5: people do it. And I mean no uspect. I don't

518
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Speaker 5: know how people, you know, choose to be vegan. I

519
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Speaker 5: don't know how people choose to be a vegetarian. And

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Speaker 5: I don't know how people choose to be what else?

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Speaker 5: What's the othertaria? I say, pedgetarian? That's what I said, setarian? Okay,

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Speaker 5: yeah that.

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Speaker 2: What's another one? H you got vegetarian? Vegan? Vegetarian?

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Speaker 1: It's like sometimes you can eat like maybe you eat fish, eggs.

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Speaker 2: Vegan? Is that it's all plant blaze, plant based. Excuse me? Hey,

526
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Speaker 2: how do you live like that? Huh? I'm just saying it, you.

527
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Speaker 1: Know, I mean, no toes, you can't look on no toes,

528
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Speaker 1: no elbows, no no more.

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Speaker 5: There's nobody in the chat or anyone that is vegan,

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Speaker 5: vegetarian or or or what's the what's the last.

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Speaker 2: One vegetarian, vegan or pesctaria.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no way you can tell me you're actually

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Speaker 5: happy with your choice and in and diet and you

534
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Speaker 5: got to be miserable. I just you can't.

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Speaker 2: You're not. It's impossible. The food is too good. It's

536
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Speaker 2: too good. Yeah, hold your boy. You wouldn't laugh long? Huh?

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Speaker 2: And what Heather vegan?

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Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't even try it. There's no point.

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Speaker 5: There's no point. There's no point. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 5: people are trying to do. Maybe I want to be

541
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Speaker 5: a little more healthy or whatever it is. You can

542
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Speaker 5: work on your diet. Maybe maybe it's for health reason.

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Speaker 5: I just can't do it. Even you want to eat,

544
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Speaker 5: you know anything, whatever's gonna happen to you, it's gonnappen

545
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Speaker 5: to you, no matter what, no matter what you eat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right about that, But I get I think

547
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Speaker 1: the thing is is that, you know, once Kyla got

548
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Speaker 1: injured and he looked at it. I got injured running

549
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Speaker 1: the football. I didn't get injured in the pocket. I

550
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Speaker 1: got injured running the football. So maybe maybe that played

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Speaker 1: a role into it. Look, I don't think any quarterback

552
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Speaker 1: wants to run. I want to put some ball in

553
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Speaker 1: somebody else hanging. Hell, I want to do it a

554
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Speaker 1: little work as possible. But I think the thing that

555
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Speaker 1: makes him so dynamic the same thing that makes Lamar

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Speaker 1: now Lamar doesn't run nearly.

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Speaker 2: He excuse me.

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Speaker 1: Lamar runs as a last resort, not at the first option. Right,

559
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Speaker 1: and his game evalvated. But if you see the process

560
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Speaker 1: and the steps that it took for him to get

561
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Speaker 1: to where he is now, now people up to say,

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Speaker 1: run Lamar, damn Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Boy, run the damn ball. Get your ass out of

564
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Speaker 2: the pocket. What you do bad.

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Speaker 1: But I like the fact that he's evolved in become

566
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Speaker 1: a packed pocket passer.

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Speaker 5: First matter of fact, he go through his progression and

568
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Speaker 5: go from one to three and come all the way.

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Speaker 2: Back to one before he take off. Yes, if he

570
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Speaker 2: runs the ball, he's running out of the line.

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Speaker 1: Now, Hey, I would never play him two man because

572
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Speaker 1: the last thing I want him to do is jump

573
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Speaker 1: out to win. They take off, everybody turn it back. No, man,

574
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Speaker 1: I gotta have eyes on him. Me personally, I got

575
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Speaker 1: to have eyes on him.

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Speaker 2: Hey, if anything, listen, you play two man and have

577
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Speaker 2: a spot. Yeah, But who's that spy gonna be? Do

578
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Speaker 2: they be worthy? You ain't ben to catch him? Hey,

579
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Speaker 2: that's my I can't only think of two linebackers.

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Speaker 5: I can only think of two middle linebackers in the

581
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Speaker 5: NFL that would be successful at spying Lamar Jackson based

582
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Speaker 5: on their athletic ability and then be able to batterly

583
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Speaker 5: Fred Warner. I'm not saying he's fast enough. I'm saying

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Speaker 5: his ability to close the gap and be able to

585
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Speaker 5: make tackles without without getting shook. Uh Franklin, Franklin, Franklin,

586
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Speaker 5: Fred Warner, stay with me now. And it's one more

587
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Speaker 5: that's very small and athletic. He can move sideline and sideline. God, ye,

588
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 5: it was right on the tip of my tongue.

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Speaker 2: Fred Warner. Is that Franklin guy? I just had it.

590
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Speaker 2: I just had it. Was right there. He's smaller on

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Speaker 2: the side, but boy, he can go. He's gonna come

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Speaker 2: to me. Hey man, Uh.

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Speaker 5: Milano, That's what I'm trying from Buffalo. Yeah, I'm trying

594
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Speaker 5: to think about Milono before the injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what we talking about. Sideline the

596
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Speaker 2: sideline and coming down here. He better he better be

597
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Speaker 2: what you called him.

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Speaker 1: He better be a have some body leg cause la margo,

599
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Speaker 1: make somebody tear some stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the last thing. Man, He's gonna start

601
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Speaker 2: and stop and I'm out. But hey, Kyle never really

602
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Speaker 2: wanted to run.

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Speaker 1: I don't think if most quarterbacks want to run, the

604
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Speaker 1: league hurt. The licks hurt so and you're not. They're

605
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: not used to taking licks like you know, floodshots. Right,

606
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Speaker 1: So that's the last thing that you want to do.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I'm glad he shared that with it. She

608
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Speaker 2: fans points out the NFL changes the rules.

609
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Speaker 1: The last two times the Buffalo Bills lost, Buffalo did

610
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Speaker 1: not win the overtime game. Hey, my homeboy got the

611
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Speaker 1: ball first. They never saw the ball. Buffalo didn't get

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Speaker 1: a first down. Now we seek measure the ball is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it coincidental? You think? Is it coincidental? Too many? Coincidence?

614
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Speaker 2: Is not a coincidence. I like that. I like that.

615
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Speaker 1: And now they've been checking the step further. So now

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Speaker 1: moving forward, they have adopted the college rule. Every team

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Speaker 1: possesses the ball. Now they didn't take it if it

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Speaker 1: ten minutes I think, ten minutes on the clock, I think.

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Speaker 1: But that was the old overtime rule right or did

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Speaker 1: they increase it since everybody's getting the ball. I'm not sure,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of teams because they used to be

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Speaker 1: okay over time with sudden death. First team get through here,

623
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Speaker 1: you score, you kick a field goal, boll you win

624
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Speaker 1: the game. Then they say nah, if you kick a

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Speaker 1: field goal, the other team get a chance to score

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Speaker 1: a touchdown to beat score. And so now it doesn't

627
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Speaker 1: matter what happens. You could score a touchdown, but the

628
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Speaker 1: other team will get an opportunity to possess the football.

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Speaker 1: Do you like that, Joe, I love it. I think

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Speaker 1: it's fair. I think it's fair. Instead of putting the

631
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Speaker 1: onus on the defense, now we have no choice but

632
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Speaker 1: to make a stop if they get the ball first.

633
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Speaker 1: And when the coin talks, allow our team. Allow our

634
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Speaker 1: offense to get the ball as well.

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Speaker 5: If you guys happen to get a field goal or

636
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Speaker 5: get a touchdown, give us a chance, give it a chance,

637
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: and put your defense out there and force them to

638
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 5: make a stop, just like we had to make it

639
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: stopped but we couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: I think I think it even is.

641
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 5: The playing field makes the game fair as opposed to

642
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: most of the time with a team like Kansas City

643
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 5: winning the coin toss in overtime. If they win the

644
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 5: coin toss, man, listen, not to out ten. They're going

645
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: to get some points. It's gonna be If it ain't seven,

646
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: it's gonna be three.

647
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Speaker 2: So you like you like the rule both teams possessing.

648
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Speaker 2: I like it. I like both teams getting the opportunity on.

649
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Speaker 1: My question is yeah, okay, yeah, so because in college

650
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Speaker 1: you score. Yeah, if now you place the ball on

651
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: the twenty five NFL you score, you're gonna have to

652
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: kick it off because hey, somebody might run the kickoff back.

653
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Speaker 2: I'm back, Yeah, to see the thing.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, o Joe, is that the rule, especially

655
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Speaker 1: if I would always defer because at that way, it

656
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Speaker 1: gives me an opportunity to know because fourth down, I'm live. Yeah,

657
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Speaker 1: you see what happened with the boarder now is I

658
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: don't know why they took the ball first and then

659
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: because they I think they were under the promption if

660
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: they scored first.

661
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they wanted to put the pressure. They want

662
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 5: to put the pressure on the change.

663
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you put the pressure on the team by scoring

664
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: the field goals, and that they know what they gotta do.

665
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: They gonna keep going for them fourth down, right, they

666
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: get down every time. No, I want to I want

667
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: to know what I needed. I want to know what

668
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: I need in order to to beat you, because I know, hey, okay,

669
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I get a field goal.

670
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: But I know I'm cool. I'm cool, right, But I

671
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: like I like.

672
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 5: The thought process Shanahan, especially in the situation like that.

673
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 5: You think about Super Bowl, it's a pressure situation. You know,

674
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 5: how can we put the Chiefs back against the wall.

675
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 5: You know we're gonna take the ball from not by

676
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 5: scoring three exactly, We're not scoring through you.

677
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hope. I'm going to hope.

678
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 5: That bronc Perty and those boys can go down there

679
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: and get us seven. If you can get a seven,

680
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 5: game would have been over.

681
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, I'm tripping. They changed they changed ruth

682
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: this year.

683
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: Now is that both people get opportunity to possess it

684
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: like the old college did, and so now both teams

685
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: score if there's time. I think in this situation on Yoe,

686
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: I honestly think they're probably going to be more ties

687
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: whoa whoa ties? No, yeah, because it's not it's it's

688
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: not like a playoff game.

689
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: O Joe.

690
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: If if you're tied over time, you keep going. If

691
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: you tied after the overtime.

692
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: It's over. Well, it depends on how many other times.

693
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: If you're talking about it matter you don't give but one.

694
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: Oh that's okay. I don't like that. That's going that.

695
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

696
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, you know, somebody got to score because

697
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: somebody got advanced.

698
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: But in the regular season it's not like that.

699
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 5: Okay, So you know that's how that's basically that's basically

700
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: like soccer in the regular season. Yeah, game in one

701
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 5: one that's it, unless it's some type of championship or

702
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: turnament where someone had to advance to the next round.

703
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I don't like that. No, No, you want somebody.

704
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: You want somebody to play it today, WI exactly.

705
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: We don't need no draws.

706
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: You want some man you want to joke to be

707
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: out there now one that they gotta play on Thursday

708
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: night and they go three over times.

709
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: See, oh okay, that's right. But also think about think

710
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 5: about the gambling, think about the game.

711
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: Now you add that.

712
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 5: Now you add the dynamic and aspect of you know,

713
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 5: what if you if you get the draw right or

714
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 5: two team draw, you will lose because if when you

715
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: either lose or you will push.

716
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, normal time that the spread is

717
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: always a half. Yeah, because you know your team can't

718
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: score two and a half. They can't get three and

719
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: a half.

720
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: Right, see that message everything from a gambling it does.

721
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: So uh, I'm not too happy about this, but hey, but.

722
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's it's gonna be interested. I'm interesting

723
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: to see.

724
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: Hey, Buffalo, y'all got to build the right side of history. Hey, hey,

725
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take y'all had a lead with thirteenth Listen,

726
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you deserve to lose. If you have a

727
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: lead with thirteen seconds and you allowed him to get

728
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: in field goal.

729
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: Range, you deserve to lose. You earned that loss.

730
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: Why would you Why would you leave the open side

731
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: of the field upper like that?

732
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: O Joe?

733
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: And now you got to press somebody. And you seen

734
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey and my home boy talking been like, oh

735
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: hold on, ain't nobody want to come and travel. So

736
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: y'all just gonna give a free run this lading off

737
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: the back to Scott free. All he does is belly,

738
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: he puts it on him and now he runs now

739
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: and he gets that book, call time out and Buckner.

740
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: Bi Bunn.

741
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's exactly what all happened. Now you get

742
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: the overtime. You don't get me. Now you've already let

743
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: them get a rhythm. Mo Joe can remember they just

744
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: went and got a field goal range in thirteen seconds,

745
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: you lose the coin Chawks. They're in the rhythm and

746
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: you see bahom will go pathetic boom boom boom boom

747
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: boom right down the field and it's over.

748
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: So uh uh I. You know.

749
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: A part of me does like it because you know,

750
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 1: both teams get to possess the ball.

751
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: But damn defensive you know they playing the defensive guy.

752
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: You know, Miles Garrett making forty million, They got a

753
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: DV making thirty million. Damn stop them. I ain't say

754
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: you got Key out of the end zone, but just

755
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: keep him to a field goal.

756
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't break right. So that's the Chiefs fan.

757
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: This is what the Chiefs have said.

758
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: But damn every time Buffalo, they want Buffalo get to

759
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl so bad they change the rules.

760
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: They ample and guess what, they're gonna find another way

761
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: to lose.

762
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: You can't keep running the same play that would me

763
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: personal Choe and I've seen it. I don't think he

764
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: got it. I don't think he got the first down.

765
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: Oh well, we know he didn't.

766
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: Get the first down.

767
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 5: They didn't showed every difference in that, in the fact

768
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 5: he would have got the first down obviously if he

769
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: wasn't in that scrum and he could have reached the ball.

770
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: Out, yes, but he understood reaching the ball out there,

771
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: knock it out. You don't get the same protection at

772
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: the gold line because the field of play is not

773
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: the gold line. You can't do this like, oh I

774
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: reached it over the first down marker, somebody knocking out

775
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: your hand and they whoop gone.

776
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 5: And that's the only reason he had to get the

777
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: first time, because he had to keep the ball.

778
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: Against his FIY protected.

779
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: Pin't even have gotten spicy between chad Ocho Senko Johnson

780
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: Bengals and Hendry Trey Hendrickson, First Executive VP Katie Blackburn

781
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: said this on yesterday. It is on him to be

782
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: happy at some point, and that's that's he thinks he

783
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't be happy at a certain point rate that maybe

784
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't think he'd be happy at Henderson told Batmanck

785
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: of Feed today, he thought it was a for fool's joke.

786
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: Henderson's called time miss confusion because he's been talking to

787
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: the team about a long term deal for the last

788
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: few years and it was communicated to him that this

789
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: something would get done this off season. There's a little

790
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: disappointing because communication has been poor over the last couple

791
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: of months.

792
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: That's something I hold high regard.

793
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: They have not communicated with my agent directly. It's been

794
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: something that's been, you know, a little bit frustrated, and

795
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: you said, he does not have any desires to be

796
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: the highest paid or the first in line at He's

797
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: been patient, it's possible, but made it clear that he's

798
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: looking for it and sent it for incentives that will

799
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: be out of my control or a short term a

800
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: short term deal given his stated design for a long

801
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: term contract that includes guaranteed money thirty five spacks. The

802
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: last two years, Joe Or he was the first team

803
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: All Pro. He led the league in sacks last year

804
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: with seventeen.

805
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: And a half.

806
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 5: This year, that's tough. That's tough. I think the Bengals

807
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: in a tough spot. Trey Henderson is in a tough spot.

808
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: Bengal fans in a tough spot. The organization is in

809
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 5: a tough spot. You know how you pay you know,

810
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 5: your quarterback fifty five, you paid you wide receiver toy,

811
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 5: You pay your worde receiver one B, thirty five, thirty,

812
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 5: whatever it may be.

813
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: And now you have Trey Henderson who.

814
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: Deserves to be paid within the top three, top five

815
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: at his position.

816
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: How do you pay him as well? I don't know.

817
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: Well, Peter and Paul already robbed you.

818
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you know, you listen to the comments

819
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 5: that he says about, you know, not wanting to be

820
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 5: the highest paid. Well, the comments that Katie made as well.

821
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 5: Katie says, well, you need to be happy.

822
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: Was that my doorbell? Right? Nothing? Oh?

823
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 5: Oh well yeah, maybe Katy saying that maybe you need

824
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 5: to be happy with the rate that we're offering, you know,

825
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 5: on the deal that that that been set or given

826
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 5: to you. But again you understand that when it comes

827
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 5: to the business side of things, which is why agent

828
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 5: is needed, they always lowball you, you know, and that's

829
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: when negotiations have to happens. So listen, I hope both

830
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: sides get something done. If Trey Henderson isn't able to

831
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 5: play with the Bengals. He's had one hell of a

832
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 5: career here. He's been a tremendous player, not just on

833
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 5: the field but in the community as well. So I

834
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 5: really wanted to get what he deserves, even if it's

835
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: not not with us.

836
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: I think so too, Ojoe. You know, the problem that

837
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: I have is that.

838
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: The contract is only binding when you want to, when

839
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: you want to renegotiate, or breaking when they want to

840
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: when they cut you because you have a perform Ain't

841
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: no ain't no car a, no issues, and the fan

842
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: don't come to your defense either, But we.

843
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: Don't come to you. But lets you ask for more money,

844
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: let you hold out.

845
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 5: Let you have gripes and situations about what you think

846
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: you deserve based on your value and the.

847
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: Work you've put in.

848
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 5: Oh well, you all type of selfish and deal with

849
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 5: it and discruntle that you're right. That's always there's always

850
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 5: been the nature of the business. For some reason, I'm

851
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: not sure how it happened or what fans of boys thought,

852
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 5: because their heart and their loyalty is to the team,

853
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure how owners have fooled the fans

854
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 5: into believing that the players are the bad ones.

855
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how they've done it, but they because.

856
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: They frame it like we're doing everything we possibly can.

857
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: You know that with the salary cap is what it

858
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: is and what we try to do. We pay everybody quarterly.

859
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: I know y'all got a check for four hundred million.

860
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: What's the salary cap on Joe. Now I'm saying when

861
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: you do with ESPN and FONKS and Amazon and what

862
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: Netflix gave you and what CBS gave you. Okay, I

863
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: know what those corporate sponsors are paying you. Now that's

864
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: just from the national side. You got your own TV

865
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: deal locally, you got your own radio deal locally, you

866
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: have your own local advertising deals locally, you have concession,

867
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: you have merchandise.

868
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't don't get me started. There's so many different,

869
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 5: so many different avenues of revenue that teams bringing is

870
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 5: and it's something that people don't even know about.

871
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when you're getting the terms, oh, they say buckets.

872
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: This is what they use the term buckets. There's so

873
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: many buckets. There's the there's the network bucket, which is

874
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: CBS and ABC, CBS and ESPN, Fox, Amazon, Box, NBC.

875
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Speaker 2: That's a bucket. And then you get Nike deal, that's

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Speaker 2: a bucket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got bows here bowles here said, that's a bucket.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, what about the stadium naming right? Yes, yes, yes, yes?

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Speaker 2: Uh what is a T and T Ford Field? How mark?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yes yes, So that's the only thing I don't

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Speaker 2: like about it.

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Speaker 1: I look, I got no problem and my figure of

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Speaker 1: okay outside the contract and I'll honor.

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Speaker 2: It as long as you nor it too.

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Speaker 1: The volume