WEBVTT - Elevating Your Camp Cooking with Camp Yoshi’s Rashad Frazier 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to the Overland Journal podcast. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Jordano, and today i am joined by camp Yoshi,

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<v Speaker 1>co founder Camp Chef and author of the new cookbook

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<v Speaker 1>Cookout Recipes and Tips for the Great Outdoors for Shad Frizzer.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much going.

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<v Speaker 3>On, yay man, I'm hontor to be here. Man, really

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<v Speaker 3>good it can reconnect with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So happy to have you on the podcast. I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>very stoked because in our Overland Journal issue Summer twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six you were ov chef profile and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a recipe in there, and so this is perfect timing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, yes. Since then a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>have happened, including this book launching, and so happy to

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<v Speaker 3>dive into it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks nidto excellent. Let's start from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>So, for folks who aren't familiar with camp Yoshi, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it and where did it come from?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 3>Camp Yoshi is a six year old outdoor outfitter guide company.

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<v Speaker 3>My background is a chef. I was a New York

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<v Speaker 3>City chef for quite some time and once COVID kind

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<v Speaker 3>of happened, uh fell in lovel to outdoors Man, Pivoted

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<v Speaker 3>outdoors are cooking for friends and family, and Kime with

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<v Speaker 3>this crazy idea around guiding and hosting clients for trips

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<v Speaker 3>to place state know they needed to go to and

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<v Speaker 3>camp out it and experience. And so the thought was,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you're not laying outdoorsy or a camp being

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<v Speaker 3>type person, you do love to eat. You do love

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<v Speaker 3>good vieues. So pairing those two together, we've done pretty

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<v Speaker 3>well for ourselves over the past six years is hosting

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<v Speaker 3>folks and amazing places and cooking amazing meals.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been such a journey watching the growth from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty till now and just seeing more trips and different

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<v Speaker 1>destinations and of course this new cookbook coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>What a ride it's been.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been. It's been amazing, man. I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought it would evolve into what it is today.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess the initial launch of Campyo sheet

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of is to buy time because I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to get back into the food business, and it's thinking

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<v Speaker 3>that the state called COVID would be temporary, but it

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<v Speaker 3>actually led to being one of the best pivots ever

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<v Speaker 3>in my life. And I have zero regrets.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point we do about three trips a year.

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<v Speaker 3>We're primarily based here in Oregon, so the alber Desert

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<v Speaker 3>Central Oregon, the ben region around here in Portland, but

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<v Speaker 3>then we also branch out, you know, the Lacelle Mountains

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<v Speaker 3>and the Utah or the Sanwa Mountains in Colorado. We're

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<v Speaker 3>in Montana around Glacier National Park. We're heavily in Moab.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I feel like it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>city folks that want to touch and we've been able

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of position ourselves a brand that we offer

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<v Speaker 3>more outdoor hospitality, software, landings for the newbie camper if

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<v Speaker 3>you will, and it works well.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that it's providing. From what I've seen, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to go on a trip one day when

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<v Speaker 1>we're in an area where you are, but providing an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for people like you said, who need that soft

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<v Speaker 1>space or that sense of security to being outside and

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<v Speaker 1>being at the of doors and maybe they haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>that experience before or can do so in a safe space. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, they get to just show up and show out.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean all the gear, provisions, guides, vehicles, I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get to bring to your clothes. That's how turnkey

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<v Speaker 3>the productions are. And I think too Listen, there's levels

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<v Speaker 3>of obviously getting outside and guide companies. I think for us,

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<v Speaker 3>the gap we feel is more so that softer landing around.

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<v Speaker 3>If you just want to show up, not think about anything.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where we've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you heard back from clients in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>what's been kind of the most impactful part of these trips?

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, there's so much, man. I feel like the feedback

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<v Speaker 3>from our trips is it's always powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it gives us a lot more emotional drive

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<v Speaker 3>and want to keep doing what we're doing. I would

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<v Speaker 3>say the most common responses, I never knew I needed it,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I never knew I needed that experience. I never

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<v Speaker 3>knew that this would be so impactful. What else? I

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<v Speaker 3>never knew the f mills. I never knew eating outside

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<v Speaker 3>could be so glamorous and luxurious. Not luxurious, but more

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<v Speaker 3>so like so where there are oftentimes questioning do I

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<v Speaker 3>eat better outside with Cambyoshi or with or when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>at home in my apartment, if you will. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the community aspect is a big part of what we

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<v Speaker 3>do as well. People always read around and just to

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<v Speaker 3>folks come on our trips we have We've been very

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<v Speaker 3>lucky to attract just good people across the board man,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think even from not just to campus, even

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<v Speaker 3>our guides and mentors, like, there's been so many amazing folks.

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<v Speaker 3>So it kind of helped shape Campyoshi's ideology kind of

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<v Speaker 3>how we show up the places we explore. It kind

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<v Speaker 3>of helping us figure out what's the best spot. It

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<v Speaker 3>really kind of chase the.

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<v Speaker 1>Vibe amazing And obviously, as you've been mentioning, a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of that is the food.

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<v Speaker 2>How have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Gone from moving into this role that isn't new for

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<v Speaker 1>you anymore, but in twenty twenty coming into this and

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<v Speaker 1>camping and cooking outdoors for other people.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would say in twenty twenty, my ego was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to make all these amazing technical mills, and

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<v Speaker 3>you get humbled very quickly that you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>bring a lot of gear on these spaces. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of time. There might be a fireband,

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<v Speaker 3>there might be something that disrupts the schedule. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think at this point, fast forwarding six years later, I've

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<v Speaker 3>gotten more intentional with the mills. I've gotten more I've

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<v Speaker 3>gotten smarter around making meals that really aligned for schedule

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<v Speaker 3>and not beaten down our crew or exhausting our staff

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<v Speaker 3>also too, I think the mills have now reflect kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the journey of the trip, so kind of going

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<v Speaker 3>into the trip, we're kind of giving you a little

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<v Speaker 3>more experimental items, and then by like the last day,

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<v Speaker 3>we're serving up like an amazing smash burger, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because I feel at that point your body is just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of yearning something familiar and just something very just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you just want to just dive into it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we always joke that the itinerary and the mills

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<v Speaker 3>are built around like the reward for your work. So

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<v Speaker 3>during the day quick fast, we don't do lunches. It's

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<v Speaker 3>always like charcooteries, something very light. We just want to

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<v Speaker 3>have the dish. We don't have the uh, the washing machine,

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<v Speaker 3>dish washing crew to keep all that stuff clean. So

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<v Speaker 3>typically breakfast and dinner the main event, and then lunch

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<v Speaker 3>is always charcuterie beverages, something kind of quick in light

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of keep you going, but it makes you

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<v Speaker 3>really year up for that big, amazing dinner at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there any favorites like recipes that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Make time and time again that you just really enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>or everyone compliments this is gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Sound so like not exciting, but breakfast tacos this tend

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<v Speaker 3>to always smack. I mean, it's just one. The variations

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<v Speaker 3>are always abundant, but it accommodies everyone's diet. We a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people have different dietary restrictions, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning, man, we just want something very just heavy,

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<v Speaker 3>but not like weight. You down a good taco. What

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<v Speaker 3>a Friday ead goes a long way.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that because it's so simple, but not like

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<v Speaker 1>you can add other things what you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so simple also too, Like you know, where

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<v Speaker 3>we're camping at, where we're exploring, there's not a whole

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<v Speaker 3>foods out there. You're not getting a lot a variety

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<v Speaker 3>of ingredients and whatnot, you know, so working with what

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<v Speaker 3>you have a lot of these local markets and stores

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<v Speaker 3>tends to kind of dictate the menu oftentimes, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I would love to do more, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's kind of been fun to use what's available

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<v Speaker 3>and make it the most creative item out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was wondering how much do you prep ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of time for the trips and stock up back at

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<v Speaker 1>base camp or base before you head out?

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<v Speaker 3>So I would say prepping food is probably ninety percent

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<v Speaker 3>of our entire menu. I would advise anyone getting into

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<v Speaker 3>this business or cooking for friends and family for a

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<v Speaker 3>camping trip, if it's just you or maybe one other person,

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<v Speaker 3>go out there and have some fun, get crazy. But

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<v Speaker 3>cooking for a group, there's just too many variables.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>So having things where you can just pull out of

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<v Speaker 3>the medic refrigerator and just go at it and cook

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<v Speaker 3>it quickly and like rehydrate it, re reheat it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>always a nice little play to kind of have. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>even now it's like chef in year six, I tend

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<v Speaker 3>to have more like in the event of emergency, break glass,

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<v Speaker 3>make this dish. You know, it could be a bull

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<v Speaker 3>of knese. It could be some type of soup or stew.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been pre made. All of these requires is to

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<v Speaker 3>be reheated up. I've definitely been the guy trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make something from scratch out there, buying a whole chicken

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<v Speaker 3>spatch cocking it than trying to grill it. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>in your mind you think it's gonna go a certainly

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<v Speaker 3>have a way with things. It's always come up. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying a camper, you know, are hungry now,

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<v Speaker 3>or car breaks down, or there's a fireband, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the wind's blowing so hard you can't even get enough

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<v Speaker 3>of a flame and heat to tap into the actual grill.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm always, I will always try to flex and

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<v Speaker 3>every mill we do. But I'm also very wise now

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<v Speaker 3>that as much as you can prepare a home, the better.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice and do.

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<v Speaker 1>Your meals for the clients also are sort of similar

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<v Speaker 1>if you go with your family or do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a different kind of menu. Are you more casual or

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<v Speaker 1>you want more on the fly on a trip with

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<v Speaker 1>your friends or family.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have kids, man, they they're kids, so they

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<v Speaker 3>want the basic things, man, peeb and jays, some chicken fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll hook those up as far as from scratch. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get as creative as I do with clients

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<v Speaker 3>with my kids. My kids are pretty much like dead.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool. And then you get some duck comfeet and refrigerator,

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<v Speaker 3>but can I just have a taco? Like seriously, man,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of humbling. It's very humbling, but at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, as like, your families don't really see

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<v Speaker 3>you the same way. As your clients might do sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a question for you. So, traveling around

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<v Speaker 1>you always find the ubiquitous onion, tomato, cucumber, pepper. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've been able to find those ingredients almost

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere and maybe throw some cabbage in there. What are

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<v Speaker 1>some ways to use those ingredients multiple ways and multiple recipes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I think off jump, you could do some

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<v Speaker 3>type of like stir fry or just something super simple

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<v Speaker 3>sanwich ooh that on like some really really good like

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<v Speaker 3>brioche bread, or like a loaf that's been grilled to

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<v Speaker 3>be nicely, like layering around that you do almond in

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<v Speaker 3>the mornings, never for tata do have fun there? Or

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<v Speaker 3>just charcooter? You mean, those are all items that go

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<v Speaker 3>really well for just little bites, not the onion, but

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<v Speaker 3>more so the peppers and whatnot. But to your point, though,

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<v Speaker 3>I love ingredients to have three, four or five uses,

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<v Speaker 3>like I think for getting the most bandwidth and runway

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<v Speaker 3>out of cooking on trips is you want to have

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<v Speaker 3>multiple multiple uses out of one thing per se. And

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<v Speaker 3>so to your original question, yeah, man, stir fries go

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<v Speaker 3>a long way. I love a good sandwich, man, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go out there with a love of bread, like

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<v Speaker 3>a really good Dnse level of bread. It's freshly made,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll grill it off and butter it up and

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<v Speaker 3>then maybe salty off the vegetables and topping around that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a kind of an open face kind of

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<v Speaker 3>sandwich if you will, what else you know? I would

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<v Speaker 3>stay away from stews. I feel like stews take so

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<v Speaker 3>much time to cooks. Oftentimes you want quick fast, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want long, long drawn items. One my personal

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<v Speaker 3>philosophy is how do you have more time sitting down

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<v Speaker 3>and joining your beer, Like that's the goal of being

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<v Speaker 3>out here. It's not to be slaving cooking over a

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<v Speaker 3>kitchen the entire time. Wrong, Like you get points for cooking,

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<v Speaker 3>she don't get any extra bonus points for making boring

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<v Speaker 3>cooking the hearts hard things. You know, I'm saying, prepping ingredients,

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<v Speaker 3>chopping up vegetables. Do that at home, man. But like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, if you only have access to those items,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely go stir fry Omelets love a good breakfast toast

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<v Speaker 3>with just an open face sandwich, throw a Frida egg

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<v Speaker 3>on top, keep it simple.

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<v Speaker 1>I love those and I like the way that you're

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<v Speaker 1>you got so lit up when you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about that was so fun. I could see the

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<v Speaker 2>creative wheels turning.

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<v Speaker 1>And those were great tips because I'm like, oh, another

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<v Speaker 1>salad that's kind of like a Greek salad but a

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<v Speaker 1>little different, you know. So yeah, I'll definitely take those

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<v Speaker 1>with me as I travel.

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<v Speaker 3>Salads don't travel well for cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, well, salad could, but I don't know. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>you want hardy, you want hearty things that if the

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<v Speaker 3>refrigerator a cooler breaks down, if something goes left, they

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<v Speaker 3>can kind of hold their wait for the next day

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<v Speaker 3>or half until you get ice or some type of

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<v Speaker 3>chill environment. So it's a little tip there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>And to that point, do you have some favorite cooking

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<v Speaker 1>gear camp cooking gear?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Absolutely so. Lately I've been really big on my

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<v Speaker 3>hand wash station with the kids with campers. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>remember the name of the product, but it's the demetic

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<v Speaker 3>dispenser you've seen me before, the jug with the little tap,

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<v Speaker 3>the little tap button, whatever, the top. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something psychologically powerful about having ability to wash your

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<v Speaker 3>hands a camp you know, And I think most of

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<v Speaker 3>our clientele women in eighty percent. It's kind of cool

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to have like obviously have the camp

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<v Speaker 3>restroom per se, but having a hand washed station it

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of reiterates like we're not savages, Like here's

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<v Speaker 3>nice little little treats and make you feel more cozy, comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was some good soap. That's been a really

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<v Speaker 3>good play for us lately, especially with having so many

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<v Speaker 3>campers on our trips, it gets a little weird having

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<v Speaker 3>multiple hands dip into the charcot re tray. So washing

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<v Speaker 3>your hands before it is kind of extensive signal that oh, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing this together and I don't feel nasty or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm being that, you know, disrespectful camper, just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just digging into all the food. What else? I love

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<v Speaker 3>my Oh I gotta get no shouts to do metic Man,

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<v Speaker 3>they're coolers. My CFX fifty five, I run a seventy

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<v Speaker 3>five and a ninety five keeps a beer hole. We

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<v Speaker 3>keep food frozen for those multi day trips. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>my dimetic CFX is one of my go tos. We

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<v Speaker 3>typically run three of those. And my off road truck.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a truck called Jenkins is a built out

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<v Speaker 3>van keeps everything kind of cool with the beer and

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<v Speaker 3>the provisions. My Apron's been a really big fan lately.

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<v Speaker 3>From the friends of our Earth Studies, we got an

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<v Speaker 3>Apron for the whole crew, so it's kind of cool

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<v Speaker 3>to see us all in uniform. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>mill service, laste, I'm gonna give an oodated like chef Life.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really recommend plastic in any place in these spaces,

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<v Speaker 3>but shout out to core containers, cork containers to prep food,

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<v Speaker 3>stored away sauces, stews, you know, garlic conefee just all

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<v Speaker 3>the things that makes my pantry really pop is the

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<v Speaker 3>core container system and whether it be the full court

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<v Speaker 3>half court, I have those all day every day. When

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to gear, it's not really a typical overlanding

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<v Speaker 3>camping tool you would see in the store, but from

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<v Speaker 3>the chef lands, it'd be a cool little hat to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of integrate into what you're doing as far as

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<v Speaker 3>host seeing, camping and cooking for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember so we were speaking, supposed to have been

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago. Uh, when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Morocco and we were doing the OV Chef profile and

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about crocs and you're like, these are not glamorous,

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<v Speaker 1>but the crocs are amazing for being a camp chef

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<v Speaker 1>at your feet all day.

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<v Speaker 3>M No, crocs are such a great little footwear flex.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the reality is, and there was so many

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<v Speaker 3>different slide options for just letting your dogs breathe. Folks

0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.800
<v Speaker 3>on with your dogs, house your feet, but let your

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<v Speaker 3>feet breed. Man Like, obviously you're working, but you should

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<v Speaker 3>be able to also feel full little resort energy as well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like you know, between you going from service

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<v Speaker 3>to sitting down and join the camp fire, leting your

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<v Speaker 3>feet kind of slide out. It's a nice little play,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And also too, I mean listen, getting in

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<v Speaker 3>and out of a tent, you know, not bringing dirt

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<v Speaker 3>into the tent. It's a much easier play to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of pull off some crocs versus putting on some sneakers

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<v Speaker 3>and tying them.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. That was a fun one. I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you were saying that. I'm like, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love my crocs, man, Yeah, that's one of

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<v Speaker 3>my I got a croc collaboration with a brand called

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<v Speaker 3>Up actually is a designer and in's Lady Dembri. But

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<v Speaker 3>he's a collaboration with Crocs. They've been on for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're like, why go to show? I got like

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<v Speaker 3>a few colorways.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing. So do you have a camp chef vehicle setup?

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about the van? I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>saw did I see a riv Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So our main system is Jenkins. He is a for

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<v Speaker 3>all will drive two fifty transa van. He has a

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<v Speaker 3>white foundation, but we wrapped him in black so he

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<v Speaker 3>looks really tactical. Gave him like a three years lift kit.

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<v Speaker 3>He's mom around and you know Ko Two's it looks

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<v Speaker 3>really aggressive, man, But we like it that way. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't have any logos. It's like, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 3>the FEDS or we're just like, you know, a production crew.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know, you don't know, you don't know went

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<v Speaker 3>inside the van. We booked it out to do to

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<v Speaker 3>really just have power to keep all the refrigerators kind

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<v Speaker 3>of going and you know, get the karaoke machine pop

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<v Speaker 3>when we need to beefed up the alternator to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of give it more power, to kind of top off

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<v Speaker 3>the batteries and solar panel top. Very simple, but very intentional,

0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.400
<v Speaker 3>built around it getting dirty, it being abused, but also

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<v Speaker 3>handling all the weight of the provisions nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I imagine cooking for that many people, you'll need

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of power obviously, and room for gear

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. Is this the first built out

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<v Speaker 1>that you've done for these trips or have you had

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<v Speaker 1>other vehicles in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the first build out. We had a land

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<v Speaker 3>Cruiser eighty series that we were also inerating into the trips.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the problem with that though, is that we

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<v Speaker 3>needed more reliability and we didn't really put the energy

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<v Speaker 3>into that truck to make it the most sustainable, probably

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<v Speaker 3>rigged to kind of keep that many trips going all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. So right now Jinkins is probably the main tool.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also I kind of started chocking the sauce Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Ribban's been a big, big, big, big favor for us

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of just I don't know, for our trips. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>especially living on an organ in the beginning, was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of hard to kind of we even with rivne into

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<v Speaker 3>our trips, but with all the power banks, sorry, all

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<v Speaker 3>the power stations to charge the ev it's been a

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<v Speaker 3>much better play. And also too, you just can't you can't,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't get away in the fact that it's basically

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<v Speaker 3>an iPhone and a power power bank, Like you can

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<v Speaker 3>plug anything into that truck and everything just kind of works.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's been kind of cool to have that

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<v Speaker 3>as far as our little go to truck for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>also giving a beer cole but also doing scouting for

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<v Speaker 3>our trips around here in an organ hosting folks, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean most folks who know anything about obviously car

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<v Speaker 3>camping and overlanding spend a lot of time on the

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<v Speaker 3>highway trying to get to the trailhead. It's pretty cool

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to be able to be in a

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<v Speaker 3>in a car that quiet and that fast to this

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<v Speaker 3>mob and I'm not suggesting you speed, but to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to mob to the trail head, get there comfortably

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<v Speaker 3>with heated seats, and not feel like he just came.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of a.

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<v Speaker 3>Wash machine riding in a truck for three, four or

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<v Speaker 3>five hours. I love my eighty series, man, but it

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<v Speaker 3>definitely comes with its vibrations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does the vibrations. Good vibrations. Maybe not so

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<v Speaker 1>much all the time, good vibrations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But you know what though, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 3>the romance of adventure and the romance of suffering, the

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<v Speaker 3>romance of just what we do. It's a part of

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<v Speaker 3>the beauty of it all, right, Like that's what makes

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<v Speaker 3>the more mechanical analog systems just really really beautiful, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreed, Yeah, agreed. What are some of the most memorable

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<v Speaker 1>trips you've been on? And it could be with kamp Yoshi,

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<v Speaker 1>could be with family or friends, could be anything.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a men's trip in the backcountry of Utah

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<v Speaker 3>with Sinuway Xavier Man years ago, and I think prior

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<v Speaker 3>to that we were just mostly seen around Low app proper,

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<v Speaker 3>but with sin really pushed it out to the his

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<v Speaker 3>side of canyon country, getting pretty close to the Utah border.

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<v Speaker 3>Exploring areas was like, you know, Valley of the Gods

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<v Speaker 3>and a bunch of other gems. But that, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it was spectacular. Man. It was two crews. It was

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<v Speaker 3>with the campers and sun Guide, and then we had

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<v Speaker 3>another guy go ahead of us and kind of locked

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<v Speaker 3>down the swepts campsites, having everything kind of just ready

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<v Speaker 3>to go. Stage ten threw up. That was one of

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<v Speaker 3>my probably most favorite experiences. I would say next will

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<v Speaker 3>probably be our first trip ever with Camboh's when we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really know what we were doing. We didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>have any plan around what it was. We were naive,

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<v Speaker 3>but we were curious in our curiosity outweighed our fears

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<v Speaker 3>and we went out to eastern Oregon, man to the

0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Alba Desert and that was pretty magical. We drove from Portland.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a long push, but I think to see

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<v Speaker 3>the glee and the wonder and just the joy out

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<v Speaker 3>of all those folks who joined that trip, it made us.

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<v Speaker 3>It gave us the confidence that this was something that

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<v Speaker 3>we really could build upon. And so, I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many trips man. I feel like at this point

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<v Speaker 3>in six years, we would easily have done over five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred trips between day experiences, mult high day, all the

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 3>different campers, thousands of folks. Like, it's been a really

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 3>powerful thing. We didn't realize it to be such such

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<v Speaker 3>a such an important, valuable offering. But yeah, that's probably

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite two of all time in terms of just

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<v Speaker 3>the space we were in mentally and also what it

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<v Speaker 3>meant for our just progression.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you eat?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Easy? A lot of curries, a lot of stews

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 3>for that first trip. One of the that's when the

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 3>breakfastos got introduced. What did we eat. We drink a

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.439
<v Speaker 3>lot of whiskey. I'd probably say we consume a lot

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 3>of our carbs via via beverage. But yeah, I would

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 3>say breakfast scos were obviously a big hit. A lot

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 3>of curries I did just really good short rib and

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 3>this cure o sauce with pickle red onions is a

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>condiment over some heirloom grits. That was a very impactful

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 3>edition in terms of just a response abound, like how

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 3>the hell did you make this? Like why are we

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 3>eating braided short ribs? There's tenders you can imagine around

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 3>the campfire with blue grits from South Carolina and it's

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 3>the best mill ever. Those always slapped. What else I

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 3>feecking lost? We cooked so much, man, I feel like

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 3>always a good one. Some trout trout burgers, so obviously

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 3>living in Oregon, fish around here in the waterways tend

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 3>to yield a lot of amazing fish options. I said trout.

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 3>What I mean to say is king salmon. Got some

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 3>amazing king salmon from this region, brought it with us

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 3>on the trip, and the King Salmon burgers just on

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 3>a brioche bun little bit IOLI led us tomato, some pickles.

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Come on, man, come on, come on.

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Should do a food to be so hungry?

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 3>But that's the power of the trip. Stuff Like I

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 3>guess the value proposition can't Yoshi wants to deliver is

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 3>do I eat better out here in middle of nowhere

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 3>or at my house? And I think if we can

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 3>make that lean more towards what we're cooking for you,

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 3>and that the memory you're having at your cubicle weeks

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 3>later thinking about that, you're like, damn that pants, Your

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 3>chicken was so good. Our job is done. We've done

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 3>our job. I've delivered on what it's been asked of us,

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 3>even though camping is our medium. I think at the

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 3>end of the day, we're just a really amazing restaurant

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 3>that happens to have no brick and mortar.

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Tell me more about where this love for food and

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.479
<v Speaker 1>food preparation and serving others came from. Was this something

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.479
<v Speaker 1>that was within you early on, or did you have

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.479
<v Speaker 1>some specific experiences growing up.

0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I wasn't really a big food as a kid.

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.360
<v Speaker 3>We're in college. It wasn't talking with in New York City.

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 3>He was working a job where I was broke as hell.

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I was a banker, man, it was just was struggling

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 3>to kind of make ends meet, but was also trying

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 3>to date and impressed my lady was and my wife,

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 3>I think going through the trials and ears of trying

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 3>to obviously make her feel special led to me really

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 3>falling in love with cooking. You know, obviously, living in

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 3>New York City is very expensive, but there's a lot

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 3>of amazing diverse food options and that sohol in that city, man.

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 3>So you know, living in her harror, living in Brooklyn,

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 3>you just kind of immerse yourself to all different markets

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 3>and butcheries and just food ways, man. And so it

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 3>was cool to kind of discover that while also trying

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 3>to impress her. She'll probably tell you in the beginning,

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 3>I burned a lot of mills. I couldn't even boil water, man,

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I was that bad. But kind of stuck with it,

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 3>and you know, this kind of fell deeper in love

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 3>with it, man. But yeah, it was all passion and

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 3>trying to impress a lady. And obviously eventually now I

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of evolved in what it is. But yeah, my

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 3>cooking prowess was YouTube videos, you know, Boone Appetite magazine,

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 3>working in a few restaurants here and there. They kind

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 3>of get my feet wet and making mistakes, getting yelled

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>at all the above.

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And where does your food inspiration come from today?

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Has it changed? Yeah?

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would see my food inspiration comes from my

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 3>background from North Carolina. So the South Southern cooking is

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 3>obviously about It's a big part of who I am.

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 3>Most people associate South of just frying food, but actually

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I would beg into difference. There's a lot of fresh ingredients,

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 3>a lot of vegetables, a lot of kitchen gardens. You know,

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot of folks have modest backgrounds, man, So you

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 3>know you go in siagarty store to meet market or

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 3>to a produce spot to get stuff is not always

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 3>very common for a lot of folks. A lot of

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 3>people grew their own produce, especially with my grandmother. So

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 3>that was a lot of my training kind of just

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 3>introductions how I kind of see the world and food.

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 3>But I would also say like a lot of just

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 3>global flavors as well, man, like living in DC, going

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>to school there, living in New York City. It is

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>a melting part of the world. And so by default,

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 3>what's ending in cooking the African day to ask for

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 3>the Asian to ask for all these things kind of

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 3>become a part of your decision making. It comes to

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 3>like shopping in a grocery store. You know you're you're

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 3>not just committing to one aisle. You know you're getting

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 3>the best version of what you want to make that day,

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 3>and your curiosity kind of just dictates how I cook.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 3>So I would say I'm a non genre based chef.

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I cook more based on feel. Living in Prolong, Oregon

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 3>is definitely open up my palate a lot more to

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 3>just more Asian options. Man, Like the food out are

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 3>so good like and not just like at the top

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 3>of the tier. Like the spirit gets really detailed as

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 3>far as regional cooking and nuanced cooking when it comes

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 3>to certain areas and certain a country. So I feel

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 3>like that that allows for a lot more inspiration and

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 3>just context to kind of dive deeper into the rabbit

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 3>hole around cooking.

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, when you're scouting these trips or or attending

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>them leading them, what kind of food surprises have you

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>encountered along the way?

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Ooh, I would say the price of food in some

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 3>of these places you can get really expensive, which is

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 3>always which which is why I'm always a big advocate

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 3>for like prepping as much as you can at home.

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 3>I would say certain regions obviously have their own food ways.

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>I've kind of I've kind of become a bit of

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 3>a snob when it comes to like honey. It's kind

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 3>of cool different go different places and kind of find

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 3>like their honey options for that area. Like we were

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 3>up in Callus Spill a while ago for a project

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Dan, there's so many honey options

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 3>up here. Obviously summertime, you know, the bees are being

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 3>and uh, a lot of fresh honey is becoming kind

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 3>of becoming a part of the food ways there. Obviously.

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Living in Oregon, the food waight heres are amazing. The

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 3>fishing is just so strong and abundant. I kept saying

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 3>trout earlier, but trout salmon, you can't really go wrong

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 3>with that where else. Man, Let's talk about Bajaj. I

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 3>think the best of vach I ever had is in Baja.

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 3>We were in a beach camp and got brought by

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 3>a yellowfin tuna and just started on the spot breaking

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 3>it down for us. I was like, Okay, we gotta

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 3>do with this.

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Make a talk.

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 3>He said nah Man, a little lime juice, you know,

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 3>some red onions, some cilantro, you know, let's have some

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.719
<v Speaker 3>fun with it. So I think it's cool to kind

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 3>of go to different spots and just listen to locals

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 3>and kind of see what their recommendations are. I think

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 3>oftentimes we think about scouting and these strips based on

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>getting intel on the best camp sites, where to kind

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 3>of go for excursions of or hikes. Oftentimes I found

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 3>myself trying to find out who are the makers and suppliers,

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 3>is in the best food in the area, and seeing

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>if you can kind of get that to tap into

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 3>the trip, you know, whether it be baking bread, whether

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:13.239
<v Speaker 3>it be like you know, tacos or tia totillas, if

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 3>our indigenous brothers and sisters and access to certain things

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 3>and whatnot, like, how do you kind of tap into

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 3>that to kind of add more literally flavor to the

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 3>experience and also have stories and kind of share with

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 3>the campers.

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.000
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that. How do you usually do that,

0:32:58.480 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>do you?

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess in let's say Baha as an example, you

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>would find that man who's selling you the fish and

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>he's an expert on that, and ask him where he's

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>sourcing his ingredients from.

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say just I think the best part

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 3>of Cambiyoshi and Arts team is that we're all extroverts

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 3>and gregarious. We've never met a stranger, you know, we

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 3>just asked questions, man. I mean, I think most folks

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 3>generally just want to break bread. We get people in. Oftentimes,

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 3>if you're in a place that feels kind of foreign

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 3>or remote, you oftentimes have more in common with a

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 3>person around that area than you do different and so

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 3>just straking up conversations, acting those types of questions. I

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 3>think folks are always usually happy to share intel like

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 3>that in any way we can kind of support the

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 3>area too. I mean it's kind of cool to kind

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 3>of put money into the artisans and the makers and

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 3>the hunters and the you know, just the folks who

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 3>are kind of just finding these food ways. And supplying

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 3>them if we're lucky. Sometimes it's good to kind of

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 3>get to certain spots where certain things are in season

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 3>around produce and certain proteins. But yeah, I think I

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 3>think the same way any of us want to do

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 3>your due diligence to plan for a trip, ask questions.

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean, when y're one too, it was always about

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 3>calling out, calling the DLA managers to kind of find

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 3>out what's going on out there, any firebands you think

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>you should be worried about, any concerns. And I think

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>befriending of those folks led to us meeting other good

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 3>people who just kind of shared more intel. And so

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 3>now oftentimes you know, we'll pick up some moonshine. I

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 3>won't I won't say the location in the place because

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 3>it's legal, but like we'll pick up just little I

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know, bonus points and bonus supply items that were

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.879
<v Speaker 3>not really on the menu for camp but now they

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 3>are because folks just want to support the brand and

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 3>to me that philosophy and approach can show up. And

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 3>where are you at, Kashstan? Where are you right now?

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Ye, Kyrgyzstan.

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Kurgis stand. So whether you're in kourgage stand

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:56.479
<v Speaker 3>or Baja or I don't know, Eastern Oregon. I think

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the philosophy in just the principle round just being a

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 3>good human tends to open up some doors and some

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 3>favors around where you might, you know, get some good

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 3>moonshine or intel on some good fish.

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think our plan actually changes where we go.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 3>I think we just kind of use the same energy,

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 3>and luckily for us it turns into good will and

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 3>good favors.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I really love that motto. It's like, be a good human,

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>it willly do to moonshine, Oh.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:31.399
<v Speaker 3>For sure, man, I mean listen, I think i'd feel

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 3>a great bumper sticker, be a good but yeah, I

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 3>mean even shouts out your thing. I think there's something

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 3>always out there as far as pot of gold. So

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, we I mean listen, and I love what

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I do. I love what we do an amazing maybe

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 3>to kind of do what we do, we can't be oshi.

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea this world existed in terms of

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 3>just the access to spaces, the locations. I feel like,

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 3>even though we're six years in from where I come from,

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 3>it feels like I've seen everything. But the realities. We're

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 3>just scratching the surface. Man. So my hope is always

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 3>at the next six, ten, sixty years, you know, we

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 3>can kind of really open this thing up and get

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 3>them more spots and worker folks like yourself and other

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 3>just folks who just always support us. I know, tapp

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 3>into spots we need to existed or what he didn't

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 3>know we needed to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm super excited for you to see. Where are

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the next six years? And you said and beyond, we'll

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>take you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea.

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a rapid fire section that I'd love to

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>take you through.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's okay, let's do it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So this could apply to Campyoshi trips, This could apply

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<v Speaker 1>to anywhere you've gone in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Best food, this is gonna be hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably best food would be rapid Fire Spain.

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:54.280
<v Speaker 2>What in Spain?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maw Yorca, New YORKA New York and New yorka. Wow.

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:03.479
<v Speaker 3>Just the seafood, the fresh the wine, the wine, the wine. Yeah,

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 3>when York is Spain, the pork very good, very good.

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Worst illness, oh, worst illness would be I wouldn't say worst.

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 3>I know this is illness dehydration. We over communicate water

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 3>consumption on our trips. Man like a dehydrated camper. It's

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 3>a terrible camper. And so folks coming in from the

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 3>East coast, maybe they're a happy hour on Sunday, they

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 3>get this on Monday, elevation gain has occurred. Next thing,

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, the thrown back more whiskey. Like, I needs

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 3>you hydrated, because if you're hydrated, you can really lock

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 3>in and be as present as possible. If you're not hydrated,

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:42.919
<v Speaker 3>it is least all types of the problems and ruins

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 3>of trips. Everyone else.

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the desert, it like hits you hard and you

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 1>don't expect it if you haven't spent time there.

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 2>So that's why most ingenious repair.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, most ingenious repair. Ooh oh, that's a hard one.

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh um, I don't know, it's a hard one. What's

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 3>the jans repair. I haven't really had to have any

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.919
<v Speaker 3>problems around that. Luckily, knock you know, knock on wood.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 3>We haven't really had any problems around repairing anything. Everything's

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 3>going pretty smooth around crazy catastrophic moments.

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 2>That's great. We will knock on wood over here as well.

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 3>Highest High Highest High Being in Vogue no, no, no, no, yeah,

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 3>being in vogue, being in vogue, being in vogue, recognized

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:39.240
<v Speaker 3>as being one of the top premier camp adult camping,

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 3>adult camping brands. We were in there last year, man,

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 3>we were one of several brands and acknowledged and shitting celebrated,

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 3>but being in there kind of just being caught out for, yeah,

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 3>taking adults outside and having a good time.

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, Thank you appreciate that. Next is best best budget.

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Tips, budget tip, whatever you budget for at twenty.

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh man, Yeah, that's so true. That's so true.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 3>As a person that literally hops in and hopping off

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 3>this interview and doing three decks going out for pitches,

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 3>you gotta you gotta fluff it, man. You just never

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 3>know what things are gonna happen, and even in your

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 3>mind you to get everything tight at you know, and

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 3>if they push back and say they can't do it,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 3>make your adjustments to still put twenty percent in there.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Somehow love it.

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Current favorite piece of gear. I feel like you kind

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of already touched on this, but.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, current favorite piece of gear. I don't even really

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 3>have one right now. I have so many toys. I

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I don't know I don't know. We have

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 3>so many toys. They give it everyone who sends this stuff.

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the conclusion of the rapid fire question. Thank you

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>very much for that. That was fun.

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh that was that was awesome. That was a nice

0:39:57.760 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 3>still throw me.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Off I under also, could you give me an idea

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>of like some staples, like your absolute favorite staples in

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>your overland pantry that you would never leave home without.

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 3>A coffee coffee, coffee, coffee. I can't, I can't reiterate

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 3>that enough. You know what tea as well, like some

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 3>good premium tea, Like we have a lot more tea

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 3>drinkers than ever on our trips. Man, maple syrup, Please

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 3>don't do a favor, bring some good quality maple syrup

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 3>on your trips. What else? Spend the money on a

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 3>good level of bread. You'd be amazed at how easy

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 3>that can be converted into some type of like a

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 3>little quick snack, a breakfast item, a dinner component. It's

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 3>amazing how it's wild how much your body, how hard

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 3>your body's working in these spaces to compensate for just

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>the wind, the heat, the steps you're taking, like you're

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 3>just hungry and so having some good carbs, the good

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 3>bread that can be added with, like some butter, or

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 3>you get those some like garlic, coffeel there or something

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 3>or some jam. This goes a long way. Whatever the staples.

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 3>A power bank for your phone. I'm the king of

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 3>my battery dying. Just having that available goes a long way.

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 3>You ked about food though, Sorry, that was the kind

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 3>of a deviation. My son threw me out for that question.

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>It's all good. No, you need a power bank. That's

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:23.439
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite things too.

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 3>What else? Whatout? Rice? Rice? Rice? Rice? Rice rice? I

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 3>am the king of buying pre made rice from like

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Chinese food spots, Asian food spots, putting into the cooler,

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:41.439
<v Speaker 3>letting it dry out. It is one of those things

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 3>where making rice, whether you're at home or camping, it

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 3>can always go left. It just never goes perfect. Obviously,

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 3>if a rice cooker great, but something like rice, it

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 3>goes well with everything. Just have it in your back pocket. Man,

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 3>It cooks quickly when you rehydrate it. But this is

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 3>pre made rice from an Asian food spot. Go buy

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 3>you like three boxes. Having your cooler. You never know

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 3>you might want to break it out for a quick

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 3>little meal or an add on?

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what else?

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Condiments? Man Like, if you're trying to buy condiments in

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 3>some of these your most locations, you will get hit

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 3>in ahead as far as pricing, buy in a city,

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 3>buy it somewhere where it's you can get in bulk.

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 3>You can save some money. Then lastly, hot sauce. Hot

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 3>sauce is a long way. Yeah, you can't Chilua Tabasco.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Whatever you're into. I don't know what church you go

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 3>to as far as hot sauces, but just have it

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 3>out there for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about your new cookbook called Cookout. How

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.320
<v Speaker 1>much fun was that to put together?

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Cookbook. Was it an incredible project. It's been one of

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 3>the hardest things I've ever done before. What they don't

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 3>tell you about publishing a book or writing a cookbook

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>is so much of what we do as an instinctual

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 3>and experience space, and so you're not really thinking about

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>measuring and like documenting it. You're just thinking about more

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 3>so feel instincts. And so writing those recipes down was

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 3>very difficult to kind of figure out how they show

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 3>up on the camping experiences for folks reading the book

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 3>and the audience. But one thing I will say is

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:48.919
<v Speaker 3>that maybe really understand the importance of prepping at home.

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 3>There are certain dishes you want to obviously have out

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 3>in these spaces, but do the prep at home, and

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 3>if you can, if you can't, it's all good. But

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 3>the reality is the saviors of some time. I think

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I book helped me really understand how important is for

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.240
<v Speaker 3>me to get out to these spots but also enjoy

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 3>myself and sit down and not be working the entire time.

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good point, good point.

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.760
<v Speaker 1>What are some of the recipes you're most excited about

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in the cookbook?

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 3>All great question. The recipes I'm most excited about in

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 3>the cookbook would probably be the grilled steak with the

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 3>cherry tomato con fee in the salsa verde. Really beautiful dish.

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Cool thing about the dish as well, is that designed

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 3>to just be steaky. It can be chicken, it can

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 3>be tofu, it could be eggplant, it could be cauliflower.

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.360
<v Speaker 3>The same logic kind of applies not to mention having

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 3>the cherry cone fee tomatoes and the salsa verde. They're

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 3>just great pantry items that just make your refrigerator. Your

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 3>camp trips is more special as far as the sweet

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 3>option goes to Tofoo Donuts. I know, sounds crazy donuts camping,

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 3>but also to food Donuts. Don't knock it until you

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 3>try it that with some pair of compo. It slaps

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 3>every single time. It's unexpected. It's a sleeper, you know,

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 3>make you question why didn't I have this dish before?

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I gret, I get it. Marshmallows and s'mores

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 3>are great, but this is definitely the elevated camp fuit

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 3>you never knew you needed. What else? We have some

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 3>beverage options in there as well. You know, it's crazy.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 3>It's all the camp we do in the desert. I've

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 3>always dreamed about having a really fresh ice, like just

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 3>beveraged cold beverage, like a lemonade and coming from the

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 3>South like lemonade stands lemonade with like an auto palmer

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 3>or something like that, or like just something that very

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 3>sweet and tangy and refreshing. I think it's kind of

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 3>a nice flex for our trips man. So it's a

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 3>really dope lemonade recipe in there as well. For the

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.399
<v Speaker 3>ridiculousness of camping outside and giving something to someone it's

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 3>like they didn't know they needed. What else the sloppy

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 3>Joe slap. You can pre make those at home and

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 3>they can be reheated at camp. Those go really well

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 3>for a quick meal and the fly on a brioche

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 3>blunder just some regular bread and some pickle onions and

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 3>some salad and some tred to lettuce, really good dish. Yeah,

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of options in there, man. Look, the

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Coachbook is based on three different categories. It is obviously

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 3>morning breakfast options right simple things based on you gotta

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 3>get up quickly to get to a trailhead or meet

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 3>or go on excursion, or you have more time at camp.

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Slow morning easy, you do want to do some pancakes

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 3>with some French toasts, you know, things like that we

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 3>can kind of sit around and really enjoy the ridiculousness

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:34.919
<v Speaker 3>of that dish. And then in terms of lunch, those

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 3>are based on meals in a fly. Historically it can't

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 3>be oh, she really don't make lunch. It just kind

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 3>of throws a damper into the day as far as flow,

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 3>So charcuteriers are typically a big play for us. But

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.919
<v Speaker 3>after charcuterier item items in there as far as kind

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 3>of helping you guys season day that way. But also

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 3>the sloppy jols is kind of really slapped as well,

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 3>the tacos and then for the reward for your work,

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.800
<v Speaker 3>these are epic feasts. The steak I mentioned, grilled coffee

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 3>rub fish in there, There's a bunch of curries. There's

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 3>a pan ser chicken with an olive sauce of verde

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 3>that I feel like to me as a sleeper in

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 3>the book, I'm probably my favorite recipes. So honestly, there's

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 3>levels to everything in the book in terms of how

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to show up on these strips, whether you

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 3>want to be more entry level or get more ridiculous.

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 3>But there's something there for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>That was amazing. I can't wait. I am hungry. I

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<v Speaker 1>love all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't listen. I feel like, I mean, can you

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<v Speaker 3>can test to this for as far as we travel,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes for a moment of view, a hidden location, a campsite,

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 3>you you shouldn't just go there, as quander, I think

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<v Speaker 3>you should also pair it with a really good meal.

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<v Speaker 3>We pair, we pair wine with good meals, we pair

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there's some good meals. Why not pair a

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<v Speaker 3>campsite with an amazing view at a great meal. And

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<v Speaker 3>so that's what the book's kind of based on. It's

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<v Speaker 3>entry level. It's supposed to help folks who are new

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<v Speaker 3>to the space also find their way everybody. I think

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of outdoor ogs you can find something

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<v Speaker 3>in there as well that cand of help your trips

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<v Speaker 3>be even more.

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<v Speaker 2>Magical, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yay, I love it. I can't wait to read it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. Yeah, those are great tips, So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So yeah, I appreciate what is coming up

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<v Speaker 1>for you this summer. I'm sure you've got some trips

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<v Speaker 1>that you're doing. What's new, what's coming up for you?

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<v Speaker 3>So this year we have backpacking experiences newly added to

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<v Speaker 3>the Campyoshi Menuthough mostly around Oregon. We do have one

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 3>in two weeks in Hawaii and Maui specifically up a

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<v Speaker 3>introduction to backpacking. This is ultra light, so it's not

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<v Speaker 3>your it's not your dad's backpacking trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>The gear is a smarter, lighter, more efficient, and so

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<v Speaker 3>anyone who's ever had any curiosity around backpacking a teenagers, kids, adults,

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<v Speaker 3>this is your introduction to that. And we have some

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<v Speaker 3>amazing guides. The mileage and the distance covers very accessible,

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<v Speaker 3>all the gears included. You just really just got to

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<v Speaker 3>show up. That's a new thing we're offering this year.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot more brand partnerships will be doing some really

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<v Speaker 3>cool base camp buildouts for some ultra marathons. I won't

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<v Speaker 3>say which ones. We're supporting some footwear footwear brand to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of help make sure they're having soft landings for

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<v Speaker 3>the runners, the media and some of the influencers attending.

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<v Speaker 3>We just had our first one a few weeks back.

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<v Speaker 3>It was amazing. We're basically building out habitats. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it includes food, the sleep, kids, listening room, masana like

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<v Speaker 3>it's very ridiculous but kind of our dream camp site situation,

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<v Speaker 3>so a lot more of those. This summer. We'll be

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<v Speaker 3>in New York for a project bringing Camp Yoshi's vibes

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<v Speaker 3>to the city, around three to five part series there,

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<v Speaker 3>cooking off in the summertime, and honestly too beyond that,

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<v Speaker 3>just book tour stuff. Man, I got to it kicks

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<v Speaker 3>off May sixteenth in Atlanta. Oh so this is my

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<v Speaker 3>shameless plug for the book. So basically for the cookbook Cookout,

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<v Speaker 3>which is out now, please go pick it up. We

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<v Speaker 3>have a book tour kicking off. This is the Phase

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<v Speaker 3>one book tour. It'll be kicking off from Atlanta May sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be the Rivian location at Pont City Market on

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<v Speaker 3>May sixteenth from eleven to two pm. I'll be signing books,

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<v Speaker 3>serving up some dishes. I'll be out there kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just serving up this the vibe of camp and the book,

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<v Speaker 3>and then from there I'll push up to Charlotte f

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<v Speaker 3>for a Memorial Day weekend, and then I'll cap it off

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<v Speaker 3>in New York City. But all these dates and schedule

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<v Speaker 3>will be available on our website as well as campyoshi

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<v Speaker 3>dot com and my personal Instagram page. So yeah, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of a lot of movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Very exciting and yeah, a grate follow up question if

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<v Speaker 1>people want to find you, You've alluded to it already.

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<v Speaker 2>Where can they buy your book? And where can they

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<v Speaker 2>find you online?

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to find her Shot Frasier, visit

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<v Speaker 3>campyoshi dot com. Also on Instagram. We're heavily, heavily heavily

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<v Speaker 3>on ig at camp dot yoshi. As far as my book, Cookout,

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<v Speaker 3>it's available everywhere. When I see everywhere, literally Walmart, Target,

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<v Speaker 3>Barnes and Noble, Amazon, Amazon dot com. Uh, it's really

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 3>of it. It's everywhere, so please support it, buy it,

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 3>use the recipes, tag us, tag me, and spread the gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you Rashad for taking time out of your

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<v Speaker 1>super busy schedule to chat with me on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been wonderful, so many meal inspirations, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to make some tacos tomorrow morning in your honor.

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<v Speaker 3>Make the tacos, tag me, and yeah, let's let's spread

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<v Speaker 3>the word.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much again, and thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>to the Overland Journal podcast listeners for tuning into today's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We will catch you next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you all bye,